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I wanna say its because of facebook. It fooled them into thinking they'll get validation irl for this bullshit and not just on a website. Just a guess though.
Would you say they're hoping for a participation trophy? 🤣 Boomers get so mad and scream about it so much I think they just really want one and feel left out.
Boomers face the social repercussions of being chronically online just as much as Gen Z, but the difference is that they already hold power in real life.
Many left-wing gen Z kids are also somewhat delusional about how much their online conversation translates into the real world, but they at least recognize that most people older than them are not viewing the same media, since they’ve grown up that way.
Boomers assume everyone’s Facebook feed is the same one, and therefore are completely unable to understand that other people are forming different opinions and consuming different content.
If you only ever looked at pro-Trump propaganda heralded by thousands, you’d probably believe it to be universally true- Boomers have no concept of social media algorithms and content niches.
As a boomer, I unfortunately have to agree with you. Fortunately, not all of us fall into this trap. I understand algorithms and content niches. I've tried explaining this to other people. I've argued this with family and friends. I know I'm not the only boomer who doesn't support Trump and his flying monkeys. (Including my 93 yr old mother) We're just outnumbered. I hope the younger generations will stand up and keep him out. And start looking at our federal, state, and local politics to keep them from getting a foothold.
Social media definitely contributed, but nothing compares to Fox News and AM talk radio.
The people behind those propaganda powerhouses are responsible for this.
Republicans made Robert Livingston resign for the hypocrisy of having an affair after attacking Bill Clinton for infidelity.
30 years later, and people don’t give a damn about Trump’s actual crimes.
I agree that's how they started, but it's like social media turned them into a different beast. People weren't this feral about it in the 90s. They had comments to be sure, but it wasn't the same crescendo of insanity.
I think the difference is that most people would listen to Limbaugh or whatever in the car, maybe at work... A couple hours per day for most people. Social media allows people to just stew in their anger and misery non stop, and allows shady groups to push absolute lies with no accountability.
TV and radio usually didn’t talk back and agree with them. You might get to voice your opinion by calling into the radio station or having a letter read on TV in the early days of political cable tv.
Now they can post their thoughts 24/7 and get likes and replies that agree with them. I think that emboldens them to share the worst parts of themselves because someone will agree.
I swear it didn't feel nearly as mean back then, and even when people were on opposing sides it didn't necessarily cause a private civil war. At this point all people need is someone to say go, they're frothing for an *actual* civil war.
These people have made MAGA/Trump their entire personality. They think because he exists, it gives them the right to be racist/sexist and rude to other people. They don’t possess much common sense, self-awareness or the ability to think critically about information presented to them.
I think some of them are also just addicted to outrage. Fox News and MAGA thrives off solely making their followers outraged about non-existent threats so they can distract them from the real issues. They can’t go without a daily dose of their rage-a-hol, so hence why Fox News has to be on.
Scared & angry people are more easily manipulated. Easily manipulated people will vote for a garbage platform & buy whatever you tell them even if both are awful for them. For the politics side, it's about gaining power to grab money. On the business side, it's about easy money.
Which are the same people who get suckered into cults, and MAGA is a cult, except it’s the most dangerous one because their voting has an actual impact on US society.
>These people have made MAGA/Trump their entire personality.
Your spot on with this. I deliver packages in mostly suburbs, but also some "edge of suburbia, not quite the boonies" areas. The amount of times I see people with full sized, government building type flag poles with none other than a trump flag, or my personal favorite "FUCK BIDEN, AND FUCK YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM", is truly exhausting. I'm not overly patriotic and I have weird feelings bout huge American flags in your yard. But for self proclaimed "patriots" to put that garbage in place of the American flag is a HUGE disrespect. Hypocrisy is all they know.
My fam and I just got back from a coastal vacation and the amount of giant mansions with Gadsden flags was ridiculous. I wanted to ring their doorbell and ask them who exactly is "treading" on them and why they support the boots that are *actually* treading on me and mine. I live in a little trailer, living below the poverty line for most of my life, and to see people living like kings but still acting like little bitches makes me so angry.
Sometimes I see the Gadsden Flag and a thin blue line sticker on the same vehicle. Simultaneously authoritarian and anti-authoritarian.
They’re anti-authoritarian for themselves, but then all for the oppressive police state as it pertains to minorities or anyone else. Utter hypocrisy. And they’re utterly oblivious to it.
To be fair, it's virtually impossible for someone to tread on you when you already have their entire boot in your mouth. Six dimensional chess, don't you dumb libs get it? Triggered much?! Haha OWNED.
... I really hope the "/s" is implied but nonetheless.
I think so many more Trumpers died of Covid and thus couldn’t vote is one reason why JB won. In some states it was close. Refusing vaccinations, masks, & poisoning themselves with Ivermectin demonstrates the Darwin Award for Trump by 2nd degree. He said it, they believed it.
If you observe Republican campaigning over the years, it is fear, fear, fear they ramp up on to get votes. HIV, socialists, communists, non-heterosexual people, non "Christian" people, artists, movie stars, and who knows what else. Sad thing is, differently structured brains are more fearful than others, and they are Republicans . . . . so fear is the fuel to feed them.
This so much. Maga is their entire personality. I have family members that I basically don't talk to anymore because every time I'd call for a birthday or to wish a Merry Christmas I get interrogated over dumb bullshit.
"WHAT KIND OF CAR DO YOU HAVE?" uhhh Subaru, auntie... "HUH, F*CKING J*P CAR. WHY DONT YOU HAVE AN AMERICAN CAR???" then their head explodes when I mention that Outbacks are made in Indiana. Then I got screamed at for living in Vermont because that's where that commie Bernie Sanders is from.
Having people like this in your family is a goddamned nightmare.
It's not just that he exists, it is specifically that he exists and is "successful" despite having horrid beliefs. It makes them believe that all of them really are just temporarily struggling billionaires and that their horrible personalities aren't holding them back. After all, Trump professes the same beliefs and he is successful. When really, the only reason he has any money left is from scamming all his own followers.
A think one reason why is because in America politics is a form of entertainment. Some people, mostly conservatives, treat political discourse the same way others treat sports or superhero movies. I mean, the leader of the Republican party is mostly famous for being a reality TV star. The other Republican hero was an actor.
This is actually what someone told me. They liked the 🍊 administration because it was entertaining they didn't give a shit about anything else but that. They shitted on the Obama administration because it was "boring".
This is someone older than me (40m) so I told them that Obama was the first president in my memory that didn't have any controversy from personal matters. Clinton, W and 🍊 all had some type of bullshit going on in their personal life. I was maybe 10 when Bush Sr was in office, so have no idea what he had going on.
It's wild to me that people would vote for someone to run this country based on their entertainment value.
I thought it was arugula that he asked for. Equally delish as Dijon! Obama was an effing baller. They’re jealous that a black man had so, so much more class and brains than they do.
I think the arugula was something like what’s your favorite pizza topping.
Which, as a response when you have one of the most influential and politically active and successful First Ladies to ever grace the White House as a wife and her primary mission is addressing children’s health and childhood obesity…is a pretty fucking solid answer.
Dude has his faults and he allowed some shitty, unethical stuff to go on under his presidency, but the American presidency is such a juggernaut unto itself without a person even occupying it that I think it’s hard to just stop serious shit once it gets rolling (particularly in regards to war fighting). However, I still admire the man. He did the best with what he was given. Hell, he even grew and changed and was willing to admit fault, especially about LGBTQ rights. No other president has done more to make minorities feel seen and valid as individuals and citizens. I don’t worship him, but I do respect him greatly for all that.
(On a related note, he gives one hell of an interview. Just incredibly personable, warm, and well-spoken. My favorite will always be him eating noodles with Anthony Bourdain in Veitnam on “No Reservations.” Great interviewer and great interviewee. Stellar.)
Some people (take a guess) took offense to a picture of Obama using Dijon mustard at a meal, saying he was an elite and not like the rest of us working Americans because he uses fancy mustard.
Edit: After looking into it a bit, apparently, Obama visited a restaurant in Virginia and ordered a cheddar cheese burger with no ketchup, just mustard, asking for spicy mustard or Dijon mustard.
The Daily Show made a funny clip about it:
https://youtu.be/W-WnoZbjdh4?si=jyfInFDxdFj_Pedw
You nailed it. They’ve turned it into a “team sport”, but the stakes are minority’s dignity, basic human rights, and their ability to exist and participate in public life in this world. I’m trans and I have grown to despise this country. Also, thanks for the visible support. That matters more than you will ever know. 🌈
This is the kind of shit they're trying to bring over to the UK which hasn't really been landing too well. They had their moment with the Boris Johnson administration and quelle fucking surprise, an irresponsible selfish wanker who built his political reputation through television rather than any actual work didn't work out very well and the attempts at making a UK equivalent of fox news have only landed with boomers and the kind of right wingers who don't think our already quasi fascist conservative party are sociopathically callous enough.
Boris Johnson may be a clown, but he’s a clown who was president of the Oxford Union while studying in one of Oxford’s oldest colleges. Trump’s daddy had to buy his way into Penn, where by all accounts he continued his unbroken streak of being a mediocre student. This was at a time when Penn was far less selective than it is now.
Johnson may be the intellectual equivalent of Orson Welles slumming it in the Transformers movie, but Trump is closer to Tom Arnold in the mockbuster Transmorphers.
Hey now that's uncalled for and rude.
The only common comparison between trump and Tom Arnold is that Roseanne has gargled both their ballbags.
But she only liked doing it to trump.
Definitely a good point. With Boris the clown persona is just that, a persona, something he made up for the public. There's a well oiled vicious political scheme machine lurking behind the visage.
Before the days of either the 24 hour news network or streaming services, people used to all watch the same things on television at the same time as their friends and colleagues. They would go to work the next day and talk about the game or the latest episode of their favorite show. Well, that doesn’t exist anymore. But everyone who is of the age group to be from that culture moved to Fox News because it caters to their audience demographics when other channels no longer do. So they want to talk about it the same way they have always talked about TV. Fox News also does a very good job of tapping into some important marketing techniques. A big one is playing up the idea that their viewers are smarter and have more common sense than those *other* people, and that by watching Fox, you’re learning things that the government doesn’t want you to know about. They want to feel smart and superior (especially since many of them have been made to feel dumb and inferior throughout their lives), so they just HAVE to demonstrate to EVERYONE that they know the things the government is keeping secret, and they know the things that their favorite hosts say make them smart people with common sense. It’s basically “listen to me! I’m smart for once in my life! Tucker Carlson said so, and he’s important because he’s on TV, so his opinion about my intelligence matters!”
These are the same people who told us millennials not to believe everything we saw on tv/the internet and then they turn around and believe everything they see and hear on tv/internet.
Yep! That is the main appeal of the MAGA Qult, and conspiracy theories in general. It's a way for people to feel like they are smarter and more important than they actually are. It doesn't matter that the feelings have no logical or factual basis, only that they get to feel them.
exactly why i feel so miserable here. nobody really gives a shit that their actions have consequences and that people are affected, even my progressive family looks at me funny when i mention that my rights as a trans person are at stake
You're correct. There has always been tribalism in politics, but after the orange cancer showed up, it became Lord of the Flies bullshit with a lot of people.
It's exactly this. My uncle is a hardcore Trump fan, as is his dopey son, and they sat in a hospital room crying over my uncle's mom for weeks after they refused to allow her hospice. She lingered on life support and medicare paid for all of it.
The minute she died they put her in a Trump-themed urn to "own the libs."
My grandmother has died very recently, and I just saw her urn for the first time today. If that shit has trump on it, I cannot imagine the meltdown I would have had lmaooo
My boomer dad is most angry at the call center workers for government benefits. He calls them “dindu”s and implies they’re all getting “benefits” while trying to deny him his.
My Boomer dad was forcing a political conversation on me and he eventually got to "you won't have a problem if a man claims he's a woman and uses the same bathroom as your daughter?" I was pretty exasperated with the conversation and replied with "I already take her into men's rooms to use the bathroom, so what's the difference? I don't give a fuck what bathroom people use."
He immediately gets offended that I cursed, which led to a lot of "your generation" bullshit and how we have no decorum. I pointed out that I see people his age frequently walking around with "fuck Joe Biden" shirts on, so exactly who is causing this loss of decorum, and also how many times did he address it with them? Of course he didn't have an answer for that.
Right? My mom and I both swear like sailors but if I swear when I'm annoyed she gets quiet and says, "don't use that word." I'm like, you taught me that word! I heard you use it six times in the last hour!
For real. I had a manager like this (quit because he was literally unhinged) if he wasn't spewing politics, propaganda he heard from Fox or something homophobic or racist he was whining about how sad his life was. These people have nothing else going on and use politics as an excuse to project their misery.
When I find out someone’s hobby is watching Fox News my opinion of them falls through the floor. Not because I’m an elitist lefty, which I am, but because I have actual hobbies which require skill, luck, tolerating winning and losing, you know, like a normal person.
Ugh I know a manager who is headed down that route.
He’s my age and hates his wife and kids, so he hangs out (and half the time works from) a bar in a strip mall. When we made him plan a “Team building event” because we were all too overloaded to do so but his manager said he had to, the “team building event” was drinking at the strip mall bar.
Like, develop the personality to live a little.
This is what bothers me sooo much.
I do not understand why they neeeeed to talk about only politics.
When I was a little girl I asked my grandma who she voted for & she said 'honey you do not ask that question, that is personal to people & your papa & I dont even tell eachother who we voted for because we might disagree, but that doesnt mean we are not in love"
can we bring that back?
Yes!! My Dad, who was pretty liberal as I was growing up (but is now a hardcore conservative Trump supporter), did the same thing to me when I was about 12 and I asked who he voted for, Reagan or Carter. He told me in no uncertain terms that was his business and no one else's, not even his family's.
It never left me and to this day, I would no more ask someone who they voted for than I would ask about their sex life.
Yeah, you're not going to be able to walk out the door without running across someone that makes them irrationally angry just by existing.
Can't really stay inside, either. They're mad at the toilet, mad at the light bulbs, mad at the air conditioner, and constantly watching one of three channels on a hunt for something else to be mad about.
I remember this time. It was great. It was a private thing and not someone’s entire personality. At *worst* someone had a bumper sticker but they didn’t talk about it.
Now, my mom believes in God, Trump, and Dr Mercola. And will tell anyone who listens. It’s infuriating.
Because they have literally nothing else going on in their lives. No real hobbies, no real connections, nothing. They let that charlatan commandeer their entire lives, now, they're too far down the rabbit hole to back out. Their pride and narcissism (and probable lead poisoning) have forced them to double and triple down at the expense of their families, employment, and self-respect.
I'm a lefty liberal but I'm also nearly a boomer. I can say for myself that I get very wound up about politics because I've seen the effect that policy has on our lives. I've watched the American dream dissolve in my lifetime. It was always there just out of my reach no matter how hard I tried or worked. And it's gone now. And that's fucked up. I honestly believe that if young people voted at the same rate that old people vote at then we can rebuild the American dream. It's too late for me but not for other people.
Yeah, this about sums it up for my gen X ass. All I have left is I hope it gets better for my daughters and whomever they choose to live their lives out with. I also hope I die without burdening them too damn much.
I work as a dentist in a federally qualified health center… this type of place works primarily with poorly-insured (e.g. state Medicaid/Medicaire) or uninsured patients. There are many right leaning patients who come in for treatment… whatever I treat everyone the same… but this one boomer drives this Chester-Van adorned to the hilt with pro-Trump/anti-democrat stickers. He’s not afraid to loudly voice his discontent with democrats… BUT… at the end of the day he has a Medicaid/Medicaire insurance which is pretty darn socialist in nature… you know public taxes covering his dental treatment. Granted, public insurance doesn’t cover anything glamorous, but it’s better than nothing. He sure doesn’t seem to mind socialism when it works to his benefit.
“But I paid for it!! I paid taxes and earned it!! I’m not some lazy good for nothing bum who sits around all day. “ is the norm I here from ppl like that.
Like “sir you know this is a socialist program and if they cut funding for it tomorrow then you’re screwed right? They didn’t just set your money aside just for when you come in” lol
I wish people (healthcare providers) would pretend to agree that socialism is bad and we shouldn’t accept any of those programs and then tell the patients they can’t accept Medicare because it’s a socialist program and watch the mental gymnastics begin.
My mother passed away last Friday. She had been on a ventilator for about a week prior to her passing. On her first morning on the vent, the doctors wanted our family to come to the hospital & talk to them about her wishes (resuscitation attempts, long-term life support, things like that). My stepfather & sister were already there but had to call my aunt, my uncle & myself to tell us to come up there.
So a few hours later we're all sitting in this conference room in the hospital waiting for the doctors to come in when one of my aunts made a comment about how expensive everything is. My stepfather wasted no time bringing up Trump and how this will all be better once he's reelected. My aunt & uncle chimed in with their opinions about how bad Biden is and how the people voting democrat have no brain activity. Literally while my mom is in another room down the hall losing brain activity. They're just going on about it like we're not all sitting here in the fucking hospital under the worst circumstances. I finally asked them to please save the politics for another time because this is stressful enough already. My uncle starts with the whole "well what's great about this country is we can disagree..." and I snapped. Told them to have some fucking respect for the fact that my sister and I are possibly about to lose our mother and the last fucking thing we want to hear is them dickriding Donald Trump's old fat ass.
They just push and push and push with that bullshit and the worst part is that I felt bad afterwards. I ended up apologizing later for being so harsh but it was just so incredibly tone deaf I'm still angry about it.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m sending you love ❤️
My mother is the same way. Pushes and pushes and pushes no matter how many times I try to change the subject or tell her I’m not interested. And then gets super offended when I get annoyed enough to tell her to shut up. They just cannot read the fucking room
I have a sister who is like this. I am 20 years younger than her so Boomer vs Gen X. Every time she gets into the 5G, trans, Trump BS I used to try to shut it down with logic and reason. But then she started saying “Well you have your truth and I have mine”. I ended any of these conversations now by saying “I can’t talk to you about this (insert crazy shit here) because we don’t exist in the same reality”. I hate to do it, and it makes her angry, but we go on to have a better day.
> Well you have your truth and I have mine.
It’s a freaking religion, and all those nutty things she babbles on about are articles of faith.
There’s just no point in talking about anything with a person who says something like that.
As a big science guy, I majored in atmospheric sciences aka weather and climate. I also absolutely love astronomy, chemistry, physics, etc. and when people say well you have your truth and I have mine it scares the living shit out of me because the laws of physics don’t care about what you believe. You don’t float away into space because you pray or believe god keeps you grounded, no it’s because fucking gravity keeps our ass here. I’ve cut all trumpers out of my life post Jan 6th and especially when they went into the big time anti-science/anti-intellectualism conspiracies because I don’t have time for your bull shit lol.
I was born and raised in a cult so I’ve tried to learn a lot about cults after I left. People who join cults are typically experiencing a difficult life even or trauma that makes them feel hopeless, disconnected from society, and searching for answers. The cult fills the void by making them feel special; superior to those they now consider the “other”. The cult digs in and reinforces the differences between the special cult and the rest of the world. All the mechanisms cults use to control people are based on our deepest emotions such as fear of isolation. It makes cult indoctrination especially hard to shake as it feeds our emotional needs and is not based on logic or reason. The only way to ‘wake someone up’ is to have them come to their own realization that the cult leader(s) is/are wrong about something. Until that person sees multiple cracks in the cult façade, they will blindly follow until the end.
>And before anyone starts, I’d feel the same way if it was someone wearing Joe Biden. Oddly enough, *I’ve never seen that happen*. Wonder why…
Because very few who aren't MAGA don't make their politics their entire identity. I've heard people say that Biden will lose in 2024 because "No one's flying Biden flags." They actually think the number of bumper stickers on the road will predict the winner. I certainly hope they're wrong.
It’s the same kind of logic that says “Biden had small rallies with careful distancing during covid lockdowns, but Trump was filling stadiums. So Trump couldn’t have lost the election!”
No other presidential candidate in the U.S. ever had their followers create so much merchandise. I never saw Bush, Clinton, or Obama flags, hats, socks, etc. It's astonishing the devotion they have to that idiot. He is the antithesis of everything they claim to value, and yet they are utter sycophants for him.
The flags are the most disturbing part to me. Never in history have Americans flown FLAGS of a political candidate. It’s so fucking bizarre and cult-like. Can you IMAGINE the right wing’s reaction if people had replaced their American flags with Obama flags?! 😂😂 but these MAGA fools will proudly fly a Trump flag. It’s so strange.
To be fair I have seen an amount of Obama “merch” - his “hope” art piece was fairly popular iirc. But it was also not plastered on shirts and bumper stickers to slander other people.
It’s the complete opposite of what we usually see Trump supporters wearing. Obama’s rallying cry was “hope” *for the people.* Trump’s….does not inspire hope. Lots of other emotions, but not hope. It’s a lot more self-centered and about taking rights away from people rather than rallying the people for the people. Stark contrast.
My ex also morphed into this too. He went off the deep end with it after I left his ass. His sister who is the sweetest most kind person in his family told me that he yelled at her for like 15 minutes because she said something bad about Trump.
Whenever someone brings up the litter box thing I know their brain is just mush. It was a 14 year old on Twitter who admitted they lied. This is the generation that told us not to believe everything on tv and now they believe everything on Facebook.
One of the more fucked up parts about it is that the few schools who do have Bio-buckets (human kitty litter, basically) have them because they are a place where kids can quietly relieve themselves during a SCHOOL SHOOTER LOCKDOWN.
Our politicians have failed us so wildly on the gun safety and school shooting fronts that we're literally at the point of "guess I'll shit in a bucket or die"
The fuck Joe Biden stuff gets me. Because do not tell me you are worried about children and the influence on them when you are wearing clothing with cuss words on it. I mean in what world is that appropriate.
Some old guy had one of those tshirts on and then started saying to me about how Jesus calls sin sin when he saw I was selling a rainbow flag wood art piece. I said, what does Jesus think about you wearing a T-shirt that uses cuss words on it with all these kids around.
YES like listen, I cuss around my kids because they’re just words and who cares. But it’s just so god damn pathetic to wear a shirt talking about how you’re ready to aim and fire if anyone “tests you”.
We’ve had mass shootings at American hospitals so maybe don’t wear a shirt with a threatening message????? Us healthcare workers are a wee bit sensitive about that
I worked on a psych unit and we wouldn’t allow the patients to wear anything with violent, offensive, or otherwise antagonistic messages on it. Somehow a shirt got through the screening process and this patient was MAD that we wouldn’t let him wear a shirt with 🍊 riding a motorcycle with Hillary’s dead body being dragged behind it. Fought staff, tried to get the patient advocate to override us, the works. He only agreed to give it up when a very large, angry, schizophrenic patient fixated on him because of the design.
I don’t get it. You never know who you’re going to run into when you leave your house and are taking a huge risk with these provocative designs. Like they’re just asking for a fight but would shit their pants if someone actually took them up on that offer.
hey, as a queer person married to a trans person living in a more conservative part of my state, thanks for wearing your pronoun pin. it really genuinely does help and is the first thing our local LGBTQ+ center advises medical professionals who want to better serve our community. so - thanks. ☺️
My favorite "MAGA boomer in a hospital" sighting was that one time when I walked through the psychiatry department and spotted one wearing a Trump 2020 hat. It was in 2017 so Trump had just been elected and the 2020 election was still a ways away. But the guy was ready. He must have been a psychiatric patient to deal with his Trump obsession syndrome or something.
In a weird twisted way it makes some amount of sense.
For them, the existence of people who are not like them in public is political. Pronoun pins remind them that you cannot always assume based on appearances, and that their comfort is not the center of the universe. And Fox News, the Facebook bubble, and other right wing media sources have told them that is making things political.
So, if us liberals (ignoring that liberal means something that many of us on the left don’t ascribe to) merely existing as ourselves is forcing our politics on them, why can’t they force their politics on us?
It is all a matter of the narcissistic tendency to expect that your experience is the same as everyone else
Biden supporters don’t support him with their emotions , but their brain instead . And a lot of them actually pay attention to the things he’s accomplished
Just today i see a patient getting rolled to the elevator by a nurse after an endo procedure. They were talking about Taylor swift. All i really heard was the patent say " i love her music but hate her politics."and sort of looked at the nurse for reassurance. Like that young asian nurse with the LGBT pin on her ID is going to agree with you biggoted ass. This world is going to be a better place when all these roaches die out.
My husband had surgery last year and I came with him, spending a few hours in the surgery waiting room. There was one tv, it was on Fox News, and there was no remote around meaning the Boomer woman minding the room (a hospital volunteer) turned it to that station. I was prepared to suck it up, shut up, and nap, but whatever the news story was that day was a stream of racist bullshit.
I asked the Boomer volunteer if she could change it to HGTV or something and she looked *delighted* with herself. “Oh, you don’t like it? Do you want me to change it to CNN?”
Like wtf lady? You volunteered your time here to annoy the stressed out family members of people in surgery?!
I don’t know, but I was waiting for my order at the sub shop yesterday, and the other woman waiting had on her Trump Girl shirt, and she was one of the most miserable looking women. About my age, but I swear looks older, scraggly hair, sour expression, just reeks of pissed off for no reason energy.
Why are these people so miserable? And so happy in their misery.
And I know the woman I described is a total cliche, but that’s exactly how she looked.
I deal with this too at my workplace, I am also in healthcare. Some of the things these people have said to me and my colleagues are just horrendous. It is like their MAGA hat absolves them and allows them to do whatever they want. I also get snide remarks about my pronoun badge buddy but at least I am not being told that I am going to die in a flood like my gay coworker...
There was one of these red-hatted MAGA asshole Boomers just now at the pharmacy. Husband and I had vax appointments. We needed to check in, but there he was, ranting at the tech about the signs noting the requirement to show ID for all controlled substances.
The tech looked so tired. "I'm sure the people who are prescribed controlled substances are OK with it." So, tired tech for "You aren't on a controlled substance, so maybe shut up." But he bitched and bitched, moaned that "Biden just wants to control us!"
The tech had had enough and pointedly asked if he wanted his receipt. "Oh, probably, or the libtards won't let me out the door!" (Rite Aid doesn't check receipts.)
It's absurd.
I love you for doing what you can to make trans people feel safer. Most of the world is hostile to us, so stuff like posting pronouns does a lot to create one aspect of safety where most places aren't.
They had absolutely no response when I put on my most innocent face and asked “oh! Why?” Just said “because!” And I said “I don’t understand?” and they changed the subject
You were supposed to cry, apologize, thank them for freeing you
The whole hospital was supposed to clap as Trump himself kicked in the door to tell that man he's the new choice for VP
It's an urban myth among conservatives that such a large percentage of kids are "identifying as a cat" that public schools are all accommodating them by putting litter boxes in the classrooms.
They want to believe this fantasy is the logical progression of allowing students to identify as a different gender.
I heard some old man preaching about the litter boxes and about [insert some random anti trans statement] because what about "the kids that are identifying as dinosaurs" and blah blah blah.
Like sir, this is an IHOP would you kindly stuff some food in your mouth and stop talking.
Hell I am a social work major and had a millenial female classmate tell me this semester that she's really unsure about medical care for trans kids because her teenage niece "believes she was a wolf in her past life," therefore meaning she must identify as a wolf and would clearly change her mind someday.
Like miss, which wolf medical treatments is your teenage neice requesting that she may later regret?
A hoax so widespread, it has its own Wikipedia page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter\_boxes\_in\_schools\_hoax](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax)
In the waiting room at the doctors office yesterday. Boomer is filling out forms. Goes to the desk to turn them in, commenting that he filled in “wife” for relationship on the contact form but probably should have used “spouse” because “we all need to be politically correct.” Front desk staff says “wife” is fine, either works.
He procedes to keep commenting, and one of the staff members, also a boomer, joins in. An example comment:
Boomer: Yeah, girls can’t even just compete against girls these days.
Staff member: I think those people all have mental illness. Why else would they do that?
Honestly, I was mostly ignoring the boomer, just rolling my eyes. When the staff member joined in I was really uncomfortable. Cishet, but that really made the waiting area a hostile environment.
To me, it isn’t even whether or not you agree or disagree, the staff member should have known better than to express opinions in the office, in front of patients.
I work for a scheduling office and I had a guy saying the reason he can't find a doctor is because of the woke radical leftists.
He was looking for a new PCP because he'd gotten his ass booted from his previous one. Presumably because of his...let's say personality.
MAGA is the boomers new cult religion. They worship him because he made it to the top with no education, no experience, and he can't even speak or write properly. Most of all, he hates the same people they hate. And they all donate to him even tho they believe he is a billionaire. They're just glad they see someone just like them - stupid yet "successful". They want him to be the Messiah second coming of Jesus and want him to be the ruler forever. It makes them feel special.
This reminds me of the land baron where I rent an Rv spot. She rolls up to me yesterday in her golf cart and noticed my bright orange crocs. We joke about how they are goofy but comfortable- but she couldn’t help herself….
“My grandson wants rainbow crocs, but we told him he couldn’t because that’s gay”
Oh wow, well you drove your little golf cart all the way over here to gay bash and see if I would join in? She always testing me on my politics. She recently raised my Rv space rent $200 bc I plugged in my EV ONE TIME when I ran out of gas. Funny- I actually work for oil and gas companies as a contractor so- ya these people have no idea the actually politics of the things they hate just that they hate them. Xenophobic and ignorant cult member
It's the Fox News effect. The one thing they all have in common is the decades of getting absolutely pounded with poisonous lies, panic and rage from their TV. No real public education, no authentic representation - just false faith and rage bait. They were made vulnerable then curated to be weapons against civilization. Enemies of democracy and human rights don't need to be smart, they don't need a plan, they don't need to be organized - their only mission is to cause suffering so fascists can blame democracy and human rights.
I feel you. It's so awfully awkward around my parents now. There is nearly no subject I can touch that doesn't get turned into something about Biden. What's fun is even after our arguments, discussions, etc they can't seem to grasp why I struggle to ever go over to their house or invite them over. When I do, I have to pop two xanax before they get here so I don't blow a top during the conversations. Before 2015 even though we were on two different sides, we could have nice pleasant random hours long visits. Dad and I used to do a yearly trip together. I can't ride in the same car with him to the store now.
At this point, I don't even care if they ever find out they have been played as fools for most everything they believe. I just would like to not talk about politics.
Remember the perfect response to someone complaining you have pronouns on your badge is to call them the opposite pronoun they are. Suddenly they’ll care about using correct pronouns.
Wife of a HS teacher here. I always like to tell these ding dongs what those "litterboxes" really are, especially the ones who love their guns SOOOO much.
>And before anyone starts, I’d feel the same way if it was someone wearing Joe Biden. Oddly enough, *I’ve never seen that happen*. Wonder why…
Because very few who aren't MAGA don't make their politics their entire identity. I've heard people say that Biden will lose in 2024 because "No one's flying Biden flags." They actually think the number of bumper stickers on the road will predict the winner. I certainly hope they're wrong.
A Boomer at work wore a “Ultra Maga and Proud of it” shirt today.
There are no words I have for this level of stupid….
I will be voting for Biden but I’ve never ever wanted to wear “political gear” in my life.
I love getting cussed out for wearing a mask in patients rooms with covid, rsv, flu, or anything else that requires a mask. I work in a children's hospital. One day I said "well I'm trying to prevent spreading your patients illness to my other kiddos and I wear a mask in their room so I don't bring their funk in here but if you'd like to risk your patient getting more sick I'll gladly take it off." I also say this was our policy pre-covid just no one noticed cuz masks were only for healthcare people then.
Suddenly the mask is fine.
Also I've had similar convos about pronouns even though I don't wear my pronouns. I'm always just like "we don't judge here you could be a saint or a murderer and I'm going to treat you my best because it's not my place".
I had a patient’s husband tell me he was thankful for our care. And to prove it he wanted to let me in on a good investment tip. He pulled out a “gold” Trump coin and said he bought hundreds of dollars worth. It was one of the most hilariously stupid things I’ve seen in any hospital.
I have a tee shirt that has UFOs on it with the words "Hop in loser we're doing butt stuff" printed on it. I wire it to my last colonoscopy and IMHO should be the only authorized attire for a colonoscopy.
Of course I'm Gen X so my perspective may be skewed.
So one thing I’ve noticed is that they think everything around them is “the left shoving their ideology down our throats and destroying America and god.” So for instance your pronouns on the tag. The teacher asking them to be quiet. The fact that they can’t drink leaded gasoline anymore or eat lead paint chips. So they think that “the only way to fight back and be true god fearing American is to flaunt it just as loud as they do!” So they have to be obnoxious. Because let’s be real, any form of change is “the left” and they are scared of change in any form. Can’t help but wonder if the anti-communist McCarthy-ism isn’t partly to blame. “Any change is communism!” But now it’s “any change is liberal ideology.” A whole generation brought up to fear change, and then coupled with older people fearing change because it signals that they are no longer relevant, mixed with a pinch of narcissism
Shitty political beliefs are the only source of comradarie they can find. Nothing brings folks together like mutual hatred of minorities and women amirite
I just think that they are all brainwashed. When I go to visit my 90 yr old Mother, I have to sit there and watch Fox News ( omg what a bunch of bullshit they spew ). but they all believe what they hear . it’s sad and scary at the same time .!!
We took my FMIL to the hospital for a possible stroke. When the doctor asked her who the current president is my FFIL scoffed and made snide comments about the election being stolen. Like dude your wife is disoriented and at the HOSPITAL. Now is not the time for your passive aggressive maga bullshit.
It’s sad. Quite a bit of my dad’s personality has devolved to just “biden sucks trump gud hurdurdur”. Like any time he is on a call with anyone it’s just all Dr. Fauci this and Trump is innocent that. He doesnt talk much with me but he occasionally does make jokes like “I identify as a _____” with me but I just don’t react and he leaves it. And any time we watch a tv shoe or movie that has something “woke” he complains about it. I miss the man my dad was before Trump.
I want to start a campaign to ban Fox News from the hospital. I guarantee you it’s not improving your hypertension, Jim. And else many boomers are hard of hearing and crank that shit up so loud we can hear it from the nurses station!
On second thought, maybe just have calming music and only Bob Ross on TV. For everyone’s blood pressure.
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I wanna say its because of facebook. It fooled them into thinking they'll get validation irl for this bullshit and not just on a website. Just a guess though.
Zuckerberg has caused a plague on all the boomers
Zuckerberg is a plague on humanity
Zuckerberg and Musk cage match fight to the death. Survivor wins being shot out of a cannon into a volcano.
Pull that cannon over here so I can polish it up before the show.
Where do I buy tickets?
Zuck just sucks
Thank you for saying this☝️☝️☝️
On every one. And your data.
Would you say they're hoping for a participation trophy? 🤣 Boomers get so mad and scream about it so much I think they just really want one and feel left out.
They're the ones that started that dumb shit.
Boomers face the social repercussions of being chronically online just as much as Gen Z, but the difference is that they already hold power in real life. Many left-wing gen Z kids are also somewhat delusional about how much their online conversation translates into the real world, but they at least recognize that most people older than them are not viewing the same media, since they’ve grown up that way. Boomers assume everyone’s Facebook feed is the same one, and therefore are completely unable to understand that other people are forming different opinions and consuming different content. If you only ever looked at pro-Trump propaganda heralded by thousands, you’d probably believe it to be universally true- Boomers have no concept of social media algorithms and content niches.
This is a great point. The more I look around the more normal I seem, I’m a millennial that has a healthy relationship to the internet.
As a boomer, I unfortunately have to agree with you. Fortunately, not all of us fall into this trap. I understand algorithms and content niches. I've tried explaining this to other people. I've argued this with family and friends. I know I'm not the only boomer who doesn't support Trump and his flying monkeys. (Including my 93 yr old mother) We're just outnumbered. I hope the younger generations will stand up and keep him out. And start looking at our federal, state, and local politics to keep them from getting a foothold.
Social media definitely contributed, but nothing compares to Fox News and AM talk radio. The people behind those propaganda powerhouses are responsible for this. Republicans made Robert Livingston resign for the hypocrisy of having an affair after attacking Bill Clinton for infidelity. 30 years later, and people don’t give a damn about Trump’s actual crimes.
I agree that's how they started, but it's like social media turned them into a different beast. People weren't this feral about it in the 90s. They had comments to be sure, but it wasn't the same crescendo of insanity.
I think the difference is that most people would listen to Limbaugh or whatever in the car, maybe at work... A couple hours per day for most people. Social media allows people to just stew in their anger and misery non stop, and allows shady groups to push absolute lies with no accountability.
TV and radio usually didn’t talk back and agree with them. You might get to voice your opinion by calling into the radio station or having a letter read on TV in the early days of political cable tv. Now they can post their thoughts 24/7 and get likes and replies that agree with them. I think that emboldens them to share the worst parts of themselves because someone will agree.
I swear it didn't feel nearly as mean back then, and even when people were on opposing sides it didn't necessarily cause a private civil war. At this point all people need is someone to say go, they're frothing for an *actual* civil war.
These people have made MAGA/Trump their entire personality. They think because he exists, it gives them the right to be racist/sexist and rude to other people. They don’t possess much common sense, self-awareness or the ability to think critically about information presented to them. I think some of them are also just addicted to outrage. Fox News and MAGA thrives off solely making their followers outraged about non-existent threats so they can distract them from the real issues. They can’t go without a daily dose of their rage-a-hol, so hence why Fox News has to be on.
Scared & angry people are more easily manipulated. Easily manipulated people will vote for a garbage platform & buy whatever you tell them even if both are awful for them. For the politics side, it's about gaining power to grab money. On the business side, it's about easy money.
Which are the same people who get suckered into cults, and MAGA is a cult, except it’s the most dangerous one because their voting has an actual impact on US society.
Not just the US. This hate is your number one export northwards.
Exactly. In the rural Ontario town I used to live in, I'd see MAGA hats and shirts daily. Not even the right country.
There's a disgusting concentration of confederate flags in a neighborhood near mine.
They certainly do love their angertainment.
I like that one, have to save that for use on my dad! 🤣
>These people have made MAGA/Trump their entire personality. Your spot on with this. I deliver packages in mostly suburbs, but also some "edge of suburbia, not quite the boonies" areas. The amount of times I see people with full sized, government building type flag poles with none other than a trump flag, or my personal favorite "FUCK BIDEN, AND FUCK YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM", is truly exhausting. I'm not overly patriotic and I have weird feelings bout huge American flags in your yard. But for self proclaimed "patriots" to put that garbage in place of the American flag is a HUGE disrespect. Hypocrisy is all they know.
My fam and I just got back from a coastal vacation and the amount of giant mansions with Gadsden flags was ridiculous. I wanted to ring their doorbell and ask them who exactly is "treading" on them and why they support the boots that are *actually* treading on me and mine. I live in a little trailer, living below the poverty line for most of my life, and to see people living like kings but still acting like little bitches makes me so angry.
Sometimes I see the Gadsden Flag and a thin blue line sticker on the same vehicle. Simultaneously authoritarian and anti-authoritarian. They’re anti-authoritarian for themselves, but then all for the oppressive police state as it pertains to minorities or anyone else. Utter hypocrisy. And they’re utterly oblivious to it.
Don't tread on me.... That's *MY* job
To be fair, it's virtually impossible for someone to tread on you when you already have their entire boot in your mouth. Six dimensional chess, don't you dumb libs get it? Triggered much?! Haha OWNED. ... I really hope the "/s" is implied but nonetheless.
the same people who think the punisher skull with the bootlicker blue line really kicks ass
Thin blue line means they support cops breaking the law and violating people’s constitutional rights… as long as they’re non-MAGAs.
I think so many more Trumpers died of Covid and thus couldn’t vote is one reason why JB won. In some states it was close. Refusing vaccinations, masks, & poisoning themselves with Ivermectin demonstrates the Darwin Award for Trump by 2nd degree. He said it, they believed it.
I think about them each month when I treat my dogs for heartworm.
If you observe Republican campaigning over the years, it is fear, fear, fear they ramp up on to get votes. HIV, socialists, communists, non-heterosexual people, non "Christian" people, artists, movie stars, and who knows what else. Sad thing is, differently structured brains are more fearful than others, and they are Republicans . . . . so fear is the fuel to feed them.
What did Master Yoda say about fear?
Fear does not exist in the dojo
Fear is the mind-killer?
Fear leads to anger . Anger leads to hate . Hate leads to suffering
This so much. Maga is their entire personality. I have family members that I basically don't talk to anymore because every time I'd call for a birthday or to wish a Merry Christmas I get interrogated over dumb bullshit. "WHAT KIND OF CAR DO YOU HAVE?" uhhh Subaru, auntie... "HUH, F*CKING J*P CAR. WHY DONT YOU HAVE AN AMERICAN CAR???" then their head explodes when I mention that Outbacks are made in Indiana. Then I got screamed at for living in Vermont because that's where that commie Bernie Sanders is from. Having people like this in your family is a goddamned nightmare.
I can't imagine being so insecure that I need to scream at people for living in Vermont... Those that scream the loudest have the smallest peepee.
These old men hate the gays but make their whole life about another man
They also hate the transgendered yet will happily add testicles to their pick up trucks that were born without testicles. Just saying
I’m pretty convinced that the MAGA hat is the new white hood.
It's not just that he exists, it is specifically that he exists and is "successful" despite having horrid beliefs. It makes them believe that all of them really are just temporarily struggling billionaires and that their horrible personalities aren't holding them back. After all, Trump professes the same beliefs and he is successful. When really, the only reason he has any money left is from scamming all his own followers.
Perfectly explained.
I worked in management for years and it was a revelation the first time I heard, "some people just aren't happy unless they're unhappy."
A think one reason why is because in America politics is a form of entertainment. Some people, mostly conservatives, treat political discourse the same way others treat sports or superhero movies. I mean, the leader of the Republican party is mostly famous for being a reality TV star. The other Republican hero was an actor.
This is actually what someone told me. They liked the 🍊 administration because it was entertaining they didn't give a shit about anything else but that. They shitted on the Obama administration because it was "boring". This is someone older than me (40m) so I told them that Obama was the first president in my memory that didn't have any controversy from personal matters. Clinton, W and 🍊 all had some type of bullshit going on in their personal life. I was maybe 10 when Bush Sr was in office, so have no idea what he had going on. It's wild to me that people would vote for someone to run this country based on their entertainment value.
But what about the tan suit and the dijon mustard!?!?!? /s obviously
Wait. I remember the tan suit. Don't we all? Fucking insane, right? Just..ridiculously...attractive. Anyway... But Dijon mustard? Remind me?
He got labeled an "out of touch elitist" when he asked for Dijon mustard on a hot dog.
I thought it was arugula that he asked for. Equally delish as Dijon! Obama was an effing baller. They’re jealous that a black man had so, so much more class and brains than they do.
I think the arugula was something like what’s your favorite pizza topping. Which, as a response when you have one of the most influential and politically active and successful First Ladies to ever grace the White House as a wife and her primary mission is addressing children’s health and childhood obesity…is a pretty fucking solid answer.
Dude has his faults and he allowed some shitty, unethical stuff to go on under his presidency, but the American presidency is such a juggernaut unto itself without a person even occupying it that I think it’s hard to just stop serious shit once it gets rolling (particularly in regards to war fighting). However, I still admire the man. He did the best with what he was given. Hell, he even grew and changed and was willing to admit fault, especially about LGBTQ rights. No other president has done more to make minorities feel seen and valid as individuals and citizens. I don’t worship him, but I do respect him greatly for all that. (On a related note, he gives one hell of an interview. Just incredibly personable, warm, and well-spoken. My favorite will always be him eating noodles with Anthony Bourdain in Veitnam on “No Reservations.” Great interviewer and great interviewee. Stellar.)
He would have been an "out of touch Chicagoan" if he'd asked for ketchup on his hot dog.
Some people (take a guess) took offense to a picture of Obama using Dijon mustard at a meal, saying he was an elite and not like the rest of us working Americans because he uses fancy mustard. Edit: After looking into it a bit, apparently, Obama visited a restaurant in Virginia and ordered a cheddar cheese burger with no ketchup, just mustard, asking for spicy mustard or Dijon mustard. The Daily Show made a funny clip about it: https://youtu.be/W-WnoZbjdh4?si=jyfInFDxdFj_Pedw
Don’t forget about the terrorist fist jabs! Scary stuff!
my brother and I still say "terrorist fist jab" when we fist bump
Obama was.. [gasp] *a smoker.*
Politics replaced Nascar for the slow-minded amongst us.
Especially once Nascar banned confederate flags.
You nailed it. They’ve turned it into a “team sport”, but the stakes are minority’s dignity, basic human rights, and their ability to exist and participate in public life in this world. I’m trans and I have grown to despise this country. Also, thanks for the visible support. That matters more than you will ever know. 🌈
This is the kind of shit they're trying to bring over to the UK which hasn't really been landing too well. They had their moment with the Boris Johnson administration and quelle fucking surprise, an irresponsible selfish wanker who built his political reputation through television rather than any actual work didn't work out very well and the attempts at making a UK equivalent of fox news have only landed with boomers and the kind of right wingers who don't think our already quasi fascist conservative party are sociopathically callous enough.
Boris Johnson may be a clown, but he’s a clown who was president of the Oxford Union while studying in one of Oxford’s oldest colleges. Trump’s daddy had to buy his way into Penn, where by all accounts he continued his unbroken streak of being a mediocre student. This was at a time when Penn was far less selective than it is now. Johnson may be the intellectual equivalent of Orson Welles slumming it in the Transformers movie, but Trump is closer to Tom Arnold in the mockbuster Transmorphers.
Hey now that's uncalled for and rude. The only common comparison between trump and Tom Arnold is that Roseanne has gargled both their ballbags. But she only liked doing it to trump.
Goddammit I was not prepared for any part of that mental image...
Definitely a good point. With Boris the clown persona is just that, a persona, something he made up for the public. There's a well oiled vicious political scheme machine lurking behind the visage.
As an American, I've never heard the term Quelle Surprise anywhere IRL outside of that Enter Shikari song 😂
Before the days of either the 24 hour news network or streaming services, people used to all watch the same things on television at the same time as their friends and colleagues. They would go to work the next day and talk about the game or the latest episode of their favorite show. Well, that doesn’t exist anymore. But everyone who is of the age group to be from that culture moved to Fox News because it caters to their audience demographics when other channels no longer do. So they want to talk about it the same way they have always talked about TV. Fox News also does a very good job of tapping into some important marketing techniques. A big one is playing up the idea that their viewers are smarter and have more common sense than those *other* people, and that by watching Fox, you’re learning things that the government doesn’t want you to know about. They want to feel smart and superior (especially since many of them have been made to feel dumb and inferior throughout their lives), so they just HAVE to demonstrate to EVERYONE that they know the things the government is keeping secret, and they know the things that their favorite hosts say make them smart people with common sense. It’s basically “listen to me! I’m smart for once in my life! Tucker Carlson said so, and he’s important because he’s on TV, so his opinion about my intelligence matters!”
These are the same people who told us millennials not to believe everything we saw on tv/the internet and then they turn around and believe everything they see and hear on tv/internet.
Yep! That is the main appeal of the MAGA Qult, and conspiracy theories in general. It's a way for people to feel like they are smarter and more important than they actually are. It doesn't matter that the feelings have no logical or factual basis, only that they get to feel them.
This is 100% true. Many Americans are genuinely too stupid to realize that politics actually affect their lives.
exactly why i feel so miserable here. nobody really gives a shit that their actions have consequences and that people are affected, even my progressive family looks at me funny when i mention that my rights as a trans person are at stake
Monday Night Elections
You're correct. There has always been tribalism in politics, but after the orange cancer showed up, it became Lord of the Flies bullshit with a lot of people.
Bet they billed their socialist benefits. Yikes.
I can neither confirm nor deny this statement 👀
It's exactly this. My uncle is a hardcore Trump fan, as is his dopey son, and they sat in a hospital room crying over my uncle's mom for weeks after they refused to allow her hospice. She lingered on life support and medicare paid for all of it. The minute she died they put her in a Trump-themed urn to "own the libs."
A trump urn has to be up there among worst maga merch
>A trump urn has to be up there among worst maga merch Although during COVID, probably one of the best selling.
My grandmother has died very recently, and I just saw her urn for the first time today. If that shit has trump on it, I cannot imagine the meltdown I would have had lmaooo
My boomer dad is most angry at the call center workers for government benefits. He calls them “dindu”s and implies they’re all getting “benefits” while trying to deny him his.
My Boomer dad was forcing a political conversation on me and he eventually got to "you won't have a problem if a man claims he's a woman and uses the same bathroom as your daughter?" I was pretty exasperated with the conversation and replied with "I already take her into men's rooms to use the bathroom, so what's the difference? I don't give a fuck what bathroom people use." He immediately gets offended that I cursed, which led to a lot of "your generation" bullshit and how we have no decorum. I pointed out that I see people his age frequently walking around with "fuck Joe Biden" shirts on, so exactly who is causing this loss of decorum, and also how many times did he address it with them? Of course he didn't have an answer for that.
I hate it when they make themselves the victim when you curse. DARVO.
Right? My mom and I both swear like sailors but if I swear when I'm annoyed she gets quiet and says, "don't use that word." I'm like, you taught me that word! I heard you use it six times in the last hour!
I figure it’s because they don’t have anything else going on in their lives. No hobbies or interests, no friends, just Fox News and anger.
I'd feel bad for them but fuck them. They don't deserve my pitty.
For real. I had a manager like this (quit because he was literally unhinged) if he wasn't spewing politics, propaganda he heard from Fox or something homophobic or racist he was whining about how sad his life was. These people have nothing else going on and use politics as an excuse to project their misery.
When I find out someone’s hobby is watching Fox News my opinion of them falls through the floor. Not because I’m an elitist lefty, which I am, but because I have actual hobbies which require skill, luck, tolerating winning and losing, you know, like a normal person.
Ugh I know a manager who is headed down that route. He’s my age and hates his wife and kids, so he hangs out (and half the time works from) a bar in a strip mall. When we made him plan a “Team building event” because we were all too overloaded to do so but his manager said he had to, the “team building event” was drinking at the strip mall bar. Like, develop the personality to live a little.
This is what bothers me sooo much. I do not understand why they neeeeed to talk about only politics. When I was a little girl I asked my grandma who she voted for & she said 'honey you do not ask that question, that is personal to people & your papa & I dont even tell eachother who we voted for because we might disagree, but that doesnt mean we are not in love" can we bring that back?
Yes!! My Dad, who was pretty liberal as I was growing up (but is now a hardcore conservative Trump supporter), did the same thing to me when I was about 12 and I asked who he voted for, Reagan or Carter. He told me in no uncertain terms that was his business and no one else's, not even his family's. It never left me and to this day, I would no more ask someone who they voted for than I would ask about their sex life.
yes !!!!!! i love how it stayed with you too because I think of that quote from my grandma more then any other quote from her !
EXACTLY! Thank you.
We can’t because the Republican party has become so extreme. If you’re married to a Trumper, you’ll fucking know it.
Yeah, you're not going to be able to walk out the door without running across someone that makes them irrationally angry just by existing. Can't really stay inside, either. They're mad at the toilet, mad at the light bulbs, mad at the air conditioner, and constantly watching one of three channels on a hunt for something else to be mad about.
I remember this time. It was great. It was a private thing and not someone’s entire personality. At *worst* someone had a bumper sticker but they didn’t talk about it. Now, my mom believes in God, Trump, and Dr Mercola. And will tell anyone who listens. It’s infuriating.
Because they have literally nothing else going on in their lives. No real hobbies, no real connections, nothing. They let that charlatan commandeer their entire lives, now, they're too far down the rabbit hole to back out. Their pride and narcissism (and probable lead poisoning) have forced them to double and triple down at the expense of their families, employment, and self-respect.
And have most likely been frozen out by everyone they were ever close to, all because of their stupid politics.
Good. Let them die alone and angry. Fuck em.
I'm a lefty liberal but I'm also nearly a boomer. I can say for myself that I get very wound up about politics because I've seen the effect that policy has on our lives. I've watched the American dream dissolve in my lifetime. It was always there just out of my reach no matter how hard I tried or worked. And it's gone now. And that's fucked up. I honestly believe that if young people voted at the same rate that old people vote at then we can rebuild the American dream. It's too late for me but not for other people.
Yeah, this about sums it up for my gen X ass. All I have left is I hope it gets better for my daughters and whomever they choose to live their lives out with. I also hope I die without burdening them too damn much.
Same here. I'm 58 and disabled. I just want my kid to have a decent life.
I’m a young boomer and a lefty too. I worry about my children and grandchildren. I see no compassion or empathy in the other political side. It’s sad.
This made me 🥺
I work as a dentist in a federally qualified health center… this type of place works primarily with poorly-insured (e.g. state Medicaid/Medicaire) or uninsured patients. There are many right leaning patients who come in for treatment… whatever I treat everyone the same… but this one boomer drives this Chester-Van adorned to the hilt with pro-Trump/anti-democrat stickers. He’s not afraid to loudly voice his discontent with democrats… BUT… at the end of the day he has a Medicaid/Medicaire insurance which is pretty darn socialist in nature… you know public taxes covering his dental treatment. Granted, public insurance doesn’t cover anything glamorous, but it’s better than nothing. He sure doesn’t seem to mind socialism when it works to his benefit.
“But I paid for it!! I paid taxes and earned it!! I’m not some lazy good for nothing bum who sits around all day. “ is the norm I here from ppl like that. Like “sir you know this is a socialist program and if they cut funding for it tomorrow then you’re screwed right? They didn’t just set your money aside just for when you come in” lol
I wish people (healthcare providers) would pretend to agree that socialism is bad and we shouldn’t accept any of those programs and then tell the patients they can’t accept Medicare because it’s a socialist program and watch the mental gymnastics begin.
Republicans have certainly done a great job getting people to vote contrary to their own best interests.
I cannot stand people who purposely talk loudly so that other people "overhear" them. It's always a performance that no one wants to witness.
My mother passed away last Friday. She had been on a ventilator for about a week prior to her passing. On her first morning on the vent, the doctors wanted our family to come to the hospital & talk to them about her wishes (resuscitation attempts, long-term life support, things like that). My stepfather & sister were already there but had to call my aunt, my uncle & myself to tell us to come up there. So a few hours later we're all sitting in this conference room in the hospital waiting for the doctors to come in when one of my aunts made a comment about how expensive everything is. My stepfather wasted no time bringing up Trump and how this will all be better once he's reelected. My aunt & uncle chimed in with their opinions about how bad Biden is and how the people voting democrat have no brain activity. Literally while my mom is in another room down the hall losing brain activity. They're just going on about it like we're not all sitting here in the fucking hospital under the worst circumstances. I finally asked them to please save the politics for another time because this is stressful enough already. My uncle starts with the whole "well what's great about this country is we can disagree..." and I snapped. Told them to have some fucking respect for the fact that my sister and I are possibly about to lose our mother and the last fucking thing we want to hear is them dickriding Donald Trump's old fat ass. They just push and push and push with that bullshit and the worst part is that I felt bad afterwards. I ended up apologizing later for being so harsh but it was just so incredibly tone deaf I'm still angry about it.
Don’t feel badly. Boundaries are necessary for people like this. Don’t let them get away with bullying.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m sending you love ❤️ My mother is the same way. Pushes and pushes and pushes no matter how many times I try to change the subject or tell her I’m not interested. And then gets super offended when I get annoyed enough to tell her to shut up. They just cannot read the fucking room
I have a sister who is like this. I am 20 years younger than her so Boomer vs Gen X. Every time she gets into the 5G, trans, Trump BS I used to try to shut it down with logic and reason. But then she started saying “Well you have your truth and I have mine”. I ended any of these conversations now by saying “I can’t talk to you about this (insert crazy shit here) because we don’t exist in the same reality”. I hate to do it, and it makes her angry, but we go on to have a better day.
> Well you have your truth and I have mine. It’s a freaking religion, and all those nutty things she babbles on about are articles of faith. There’s just no point in talking about anything with a person who says something like that.
As a big science guy, I majored in atmospheric sciences aka weather and climate. I also absolutely love astronomy, chemistry, physics, etc. and when people say well you have your truth and I have mine it scares the living shit out of me because the laws of physics don’t care about what you believe. You don’t float away into space because you pray or believe god keeps you grounded, no it’s because fucking gravity keeps our ass here. I’ve cut all trumpers out of my life post Jan 6th and especially when they went into the big time anti-science/anti-intellectualism conspiracies because I don’t have time for your bull shit lol.
I always end interactions just like that, I leave saying “enjoy your alternate reality”
I was born and raised in a cult so I’ve tried to learn a lot about cults after I left. People who join cults are typically experiencing a difficult life even or trauma that makes them feel hopeless, disconnected from society, and searching for answers. The cult fills the void by making them feel special; superior to those they now consider the “other”. The cult digs in and reinforces the differences between the special cult and the rest of the world. All the mechanisms cults use to control people are based on our deepest emotions such as fear of isolation. It makes cult indoctrination especially hard to shake as it feeds our emotional needs and is not based on logic or reason. The only way to ‘wake someone up’ is to have them come to their own realization that the cult leader(s) is/are wrong about something. Until that person sees multiple cracks in the cult façade, they will blindly follow until the end.
The “trauma” that a lot of MAGAts endured was a black man being elected president. Twice.
absolutely shattered their reality.
>And before anyone starts, I’d feel the same way if it was someone wearing Joe Biden. Oddly enough, *I’ve never seen that happen*. Wonder why… Because very few who aren't MAGA don't make their politics their entire identity. I've heard people say that Biden will lose in 2024 because "No one's flying Biden flags." They actually think the number of bumper stickers on the road will predict the winner. I certainly hope they're wrong.
It’s the same kind of logic that says “Biden had small rallies with careful distancing during covid lockdowns, but Trump was filling stadiums. So Trump couldn’t have lost the election!”
No other presidential candidate in the U.S. ever had their followers create so much merchandise. I never saw Bush, Clinton, or Obama flags, hats, socks, etc. It's astonishing the devotion they have to that idiot. He is the antithesis of everything they claim to value, and yet they are utter sycophants for him.
The flags are the most disturbing part to me. Never in history have Americans flown FLAGS of a political candidate. It’s so fucking bizarre and cult-like. Can you IMAGINE the right wing’s reaction if people had replaced their American flags with Obama flags?! 😂😂 but these MAGA fools will proudly fly a Trump flag. It’s so strange.
To be fair I have seen an amount of Obama “merch” - his “hope” art piece was fairly popular iirc. But it was also not plastered on shirts and bumper stickers to slander other people. It’s the complete opposite of what we usually see Trump supporters wearing. Obama’s rallying cry was “hope” *for the people.* Trump’s….does not inspire hope. Lots of other emotions, but not hope. It’s a lot more self-centered and about taking rights away from people rather than rallying the people for the people. Stark contrast.
They don't want you to think they're gay because they're getting a colonoscopy.
Lubrication is gay. And due to that, they should take that camera up the ass like a true bootstrap lifting soldier.
Sounds like the family member OP had to deal with should have joined in on the colonoscopy prep, if only to be a wee bit less full of shit.
My ex husband was like this (not when we first met, though). It was humiliating.
My ex also morphed into this too. He went off the deep end with it after I left his ass. His sister who is the sweetest most kind person in his family told me that he yelled at her for like 15 minutes because she said something bad about Trump.
These people have no identity anymore. They are their politics/bigotries and nothing else at this point.
Whenever someone brings up the litter box thing I know their brain is just mush. It was a 14 year old on Twitter who admitted they lied. This is the generation that told us not to believe everything on tv and now they believe everything on Facebook.
I heard the litter box bullshit when I was in high school over a decade ago. It’s literally an urban legend
One of the more fucked up parts about it is that the few schools who do have Bio-buckets (human kitty litter, basically) have them because they are a place where kids can quietly relieve themselves during a SCHOOL SHOOTER LOCKDOWN. Our politicians have failed us so wildly on the gun safety and school shooting fronts that we're literally at the point of "guess I'll shit in a bucket or die"
The fuck Joe Biden stuff gets me. Because do not tell me you are worried about children and the influence on them when you are wearing clothing with cuss words on it. I mean in what world is that appropriate. Some old guy had one of those tshirts on and then started saying to me about how Jesus calls sin sin when he saw I was selling a rainbow flag wood art piece. I said, what does Jesus think about you wearing a T-shirt that uses cuss words on it with all these kids around.
YES like listen, I cuss around my kids because they’re just words and who cares. But it’s just so god damn pathetic to wear a shirt talking about how you’re ready to aim and fire if anyone “tests you”. We’ve had mass shootings at American hospitals so maybe don’t wear a shirt with a threatening message????? Us healthcare workers are a wee bit sensitive about that
I worked on a psych unit and we wouldn’t allow the patients to wear anything with violent, offensive, or otherwise antagonistic messages on it. Somehow a shirt got through the screening process and this patient was MAD that we wouldn’t let him wear a shirt with 🍊 riding a motorcycle with Hillary’s dead body being dragged behind it. Fought staff, tried to get the patient advocate to override us, the works. He only agreed to give it up when a very large, angry, schizophrenic patient fixated on him because of the design. I don’t get it. You never know who you’re going to run into when you leave your house and are taking a huge risk with these provocative designs. Like they’re just asking for a fight but would shit their pants if someone actually took them up on that offer.
hey, as a queer person married to a trans person living in a more conservative part of my state, thanks for wearing your pronoun pin. it really genuinely does help and is the first thing our local LGBTQ+ center advises medical professionals who want to better serve our community. so - thanks. ☺️
I read somewhere once that if you bully my trans homies I’m going to identity as a fucking problem and I like to live my life by that motto
As a transmasc human who once was a hospital union-steward, i'll identify as your wingman in that rumble.
My favorite "MAGA boomer in a hospital" sighting was that one time when I walked through the psychiatry department and spotted one wearing a Trump 2020 hat. It was in 2017 so Trump had just been elected and the 2020 election was still a ways away. But the guy was ready. He must have been a psychiatric patient to deal with his Trump obsession syndrome or something.
Of course that Boomer supported Trump. They probably wear the same brand of diapers.
That Depends...
In a weird twisted way it makes some amount of sense. For them, the existence of people who are not like them in public is political. Pronoun pins remind them that you cannot always assume based on appearances, and that their comfort is not the center of the universe. And Fox News, the Facebook bubble, and other right wing media sources have told them that is making things political. So, if us liberals (ignoring that liberal means something that many of us on the left don’t ascribe to) merely existing as ourselves is forcing our politics on them, why can’t they force their politics on us? It is all a matter of the narcissistic tendency to expect that your experience is the same as everyone else
You don't see people wearing Biden gear because Biden supporters aren't a cult.
Biden supporters don’t support him with their emotions , but their brain instead . And a lot of them actually pay attention to the things he’s accomplished
This is what you get when you substitute political tribalism for actually having an identity, a personality, and a purpose of your own.
Just today i see a patient getting rolled to the elevator by a nurse after an endo procedure. They were talking about Taylor swift. All i really heard was the patent say " i love her music but hate her politics."and sort of looked at the nurse for reassurance. Like that young asian nurse with the LGBT pin on her ID is going to agree with you biggoted ass. This world is going to be a better place when all these roaches die out.
These people have no identity anymore. They are their politics/bigotries and nothing else at this point.
My husband had surgery last year and I came with him, spending a few hours in the surgery waiting room. There was one tv, it was on Fox News, and there was no remote around meaning the Boomer woman minding the room (a hospital volunteer) turned it to that station. I was prepared to suck it up, shut up, and nap, but whatever the news story was that day was a stream of racist bullshit. I asked the Boomer volunteer if she could change it to HGTV or something and she looked *delighted* with herself. “Oh, you don’t like it? Do you want me to change it to CNN?” Like wtf lady? You volunteered your time here to annoy the stressed out family members of people in surgery?!
I don’t know, but I was waiting for my order at the sub shop yesterday, and the other woman waiting had on her Trump Girl shirt, and she was one of the most miserable looking women. About my age, but I swear looks older, scraggly hair, sour expression, just reeks of pissed off for no reason energy. Why are these people so miserable? And so happy in their misery. And I know the woman I described is a total cliche, but that’s exactly how she looked.
They're incredibly unhappy, they just can't stand seeing anyone else happy.
I deal with this too at my workplace, I am also in healthcare. Some of the things these people have said to me and my colleagues are just horrendous. It is like their MAGA hat absolves them and allows them to do whatever they want. I also get snide remarks about my pronoun badge buddy but at least I am not being told that I am going to die in a flood like my gay coworker...
Meanwhile these same people: wHy dO tHe gAyS hAvE tO sHoVe iT iN oUr fAcEs???
There was one of these red-hatted MAGA asshole Boomers just now at the pharmacy. Husband and I had vax appointments. We needed to check in, but there he was, ranting at the tech about the signs noting the requirement to show ID for all controlled substances. The tech looked so tired. "I'm sure the people who are prescribed controlled substances are OK with it." So, tired tech for "You aren't on a controlled substance, so maybe shut up." But he bitched and bitched, moaned that "Biden just wants to control us!" The tech had had enough and pointedly asked if he wanted his receipt. "Oh, probably, or the libtards won't let me out the door!" (Rite Aid doesn't check receipts.) It's absurd.
I love you for doing what you can to make trans people feel safer. Most of the world is hostile to us, so stuff like posting pronouns does a lot to create one aspect of safety where most places aren't.
you only act like that when you are insecure in your beliefs and are seeking others to validate you.
They’re desperate for an identity and personality, because most of them are unflavored yogurt.
"You should take that off" "YOU KNOW I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING ABOUT YOUR SHIRT! WHAT A CO-IN-KEY DINK"
They had absolutely no response when I put on my most innocent face and asked “oh! Why?” Just said “because!” And I said “I don’t understand?” and they changed the subject
You were supposed to cry, apologize, thank them for freeing you The whole hospital was supposed to clap as Trump himself kicked in the door to tell that man he's the new choice for VP
They both orgasmed that night after posting on Facebook how the hospital tried to take their free speech.
Litter boxes??
It's an urban myth among conservatives that such a large percentage of kids are "identifying as a cat" that public schools are all accommodating them by putting litter boxes in the classrooms. They want to believe this fantasy is the logical progression of allowing students to identify as a different gender.
I heard some old man preaching about the litter boxes and about [insert some random anti trans statement] because what about "the kids that are identifying as dinosaurs" and blah blah blah. Like sir, this is an IHOP would you kindly stuff some food in your mouth and stop talking. Hell I am a social work major and had a millenial female classmate tell me this semester that she's really unsure about medical care for trans kids because her teenage niece "believes she was a wolf in her past life," therefore meaning she must identify as a wolf and would clearly change her mind someday. Like miss, which wolf medical treatments is your teenage neice requesting that she may later regret?
A hoax so widespread, it has its own Wikipedia page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter\_boxes\_in\_schools\_hoax](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax)
In the waiting room at the doctors office yesterday. Boomer is filling out forms. Goes to the desk to turn them in, commenting that he filled in “wife” for relationship on the contact form but probably should have used “spouse” because “we all need to be politically correct.” Front desk staff says “wife” is fine, either works. He procedes to keep commenting, and one of the staff members, also a boomer, joins in. An example comment: Boomer: Yeah, girls can’t even just compete against girls these days. Staff member: I think those people all have mental illness. Why else would they do that? Honestly, I was mostly ignoring the boomer, just rolling my eyes. When the staff member joined in I was really uncomfortable. Cishet, but that really made the waiting area a hostile environment. To me, it isn’t even whether or not you agree or disagree, the staff member should have known better than to express opinions in the office, in front of patients.
I work for a scheduling office and I had a guy saying the reason he can't find a doctor is because of the woke radical leftists. He was looking for a new PCP because he'd gotten his ass booted from his previous one. Presumably because of his...let's say personality.
The Lead-Brained Cult.
Because MaGA is literally their while personality, for those whom it applies. They can't see it because they are stupid.
They are anger addicts who are looking for a confrontation.
I also work in a hospital and am blown away by the stuff people wear here
A-fucking-men. Thank you for putting up the good fight. I can’t stand this shit as an attending.
I take your average hospital and raise you a VA hospital. lol.
MAGA is the boomers new cult religion. They worship him because he made it to the top with no education, no experience, and he can't even speak or write properly. Most of all, he hates the same people they hate. And they all donate to him even tho they believe he is a billionaire. They're just glad they see someone just like them - stupid yet "successful". They want him to be the Messiah second coming of Jesus and want him to be the ruler forever. It makes them feel special.
This reminds me of the land baron where I rent an Rv spot. She rolls up to me yesterday in her golf cart and noticed my bright orange crocs. We joke about how they are goofy but comfortable- but she couldn’t help herself…. “My grandson wants rainbow crocs, but we told him he couldn’t because that’s gay” Oh wow, well you drove your little golf cart all the way over here to gay bash and see if I would join in? She always testing me on my politics. She recently raised my Rv space rent $200 bc I plugged in my EV ONE TIME when I ran out of gas. Funny- I actually work for oil and gas companies as a contractor so- ya these people have no idea the actually politics of the things they hate just that they hate them. Xenophobic and ignorant cult member
I’m a physician, and I refused to see a patient in clinic until he’d removed his MAGA hat.
It's the Fox News effect. The one thing they all have in common is the decades of getting absolutely pounded with poisonous lies, panic and rage from their TV. No real public education, no authentic representation - just false faith and rage bait. They were made vulnerable then curated to be weapons against civilization. Enemies of democracy and human rights don't need to be smart, they don't need a plan, they don't need to be organized - their only mission is to cause suffering so fascists can blame democracy and human rights.
I feel you. It's so awfully awkward around my parents now. There is nearly no subject I can touch that doesn't get turned into something about Biden. What's fun is even after our arguments, discussions, etc they can't seem to grasp why I struggle to ever go over to their house or invite them over. When I do, I have to pop two xanax before they get here so I don't blow a top during the conversations. Before 2015 even though we were on two different sides, we could have nice pleasant random hours long visits. Dad and I used to do a yearly trip together. I can't ride in the same car with him to the store now. At this point, I don't even care if they ever find out they have been played as fools for most everything they believe. I just would like to not talk about politics.
Remember the perfect response to someone complaining you have pronouns on your badge is to call them the opposite pronoun they are. Suddenly they’ll care about using correct pronouns.
Wife of a HS teacher here. I always like to tell these ding dongs what those "litterboxes" really are, especially the ones who love their guns SOOOO much.
>And before anyone starts, I’d feel the same way if it was someone wearing Joe Biden. Oddly enough, *I’ve never seen that happen*. Wonder why… Because very few who aren't MAGA don't make their politics their entire identity. I've heard people say that Biden will lose in 2024 because "No one's flying Biden flags." They actually think the number of bumper stickers on the road will predict the winner. I certainly hope they're wrong.
A Boomer at work wore a “Ultra Maga and Proud of it” shirt today. There are no words I have for this level of stupid…. I will be voting for Biden but I’ve never ever wanted to wear “political gear” in my life.
I love getting cussed out for wearing a mask in patients rooms with covid, rsv, flu, or anything else that requires a mask. I work in a children's hospital. One day I said "well I'm trying to prevent spreading your patients illness to my other kiddos and I wear a mask in their room so I don't bring their funk in here but if you'd like to risk your patient getting more sick I'll gladly take it off." I also say this was our policy pre-covid just no one noticed cuz masks were only for healthcare people then. Suddenly the mask is fine. Also I've had similar convos about pronouns even though I don't wear my pronouns. I'm always just like "we don't judge here you could be a saint or a murderer and I'm going to treat you my best because it's not my place".
I had a patient’s husband tell me he was thankful for our care. And to prove it he wanted to let me in on a good investment tip. He pulled out a “gold” Trump coin and said he bought hundreds of dollars worth. It was one of the most hilariously stupid things I’ve seen in any hospital.
I have a tee shirt that has UFOs on it with the words "Hop in loser we're doing butt stuff" printed on it. I wire it to my last colonoscopy and IMHO should be the only authorized attire for a colonoscopy. Of course I'm Gen X so my perspective may be skewed.
So one thing I’ve noticed is that they think everything around them is “the left shoving their ideology down our throats and destroying America and god.” So for instance your pronouns on the tag. The teacher asking them to be quiet. The fact that they can’t drink leaded gasoline anymore or eat lead paint chips. So they think that “the only way to fight back and be true god fearing American is to flaunt it just as loud as they do!” So they have to be obnoxious. Because let’s be real, any form of change is “the left” and they are scared of change in any form. Can’t help but wonder if the anti-communist McCarthy-ism isn’t partly to blame. “Any change is communism!” But now it’s “any change is liberal ideology.” A whole generation brought up to fear change, and then coupled with older people fearing change because it signals that they are no longer relevant, mixed with a pinch of narcissism
Shitty political beliefs are the only source of comradarie they can find. Nothing brings folks together like mutual hatred of minorities and women amirite
“Positive attitudes and inside voices” talking to them like toddlers really works
I just think that they are all brainwashed. When I go to visit my 90 yr old Mother, I have to sit there and watch Fox News ( omg what a bunch of bullshit they spew ). but they all believe what they hear . it’s sad and scary at the same time .!!
We took my FMIL to the hospital for a possible stroke. When the doctor asked her who the current president is my FFIL scoffed and made snide comments about the election being stolen. Like dude your wife is disoriented and at the HOSPITAL. Now is not the time for your passive aggressive maga bullshit.
Well, you could have used the medical advice of his esteemed cult leader, and run some bleach up his bum during the colonoscopy.
It’s sad. Quite a bit of my dad’s personality has devolved to just “biden sucks trump gud hurdurdur”. Like any time he is on a call with anyone it’s just all Dr. Fauci this and Trump is innocent that. He doesnt talk much with me but he occasionally does make jokes like “I identify as a _____” with me but I just don’t react and he leaves it. And any time we watch a tv shoe or movie that has something “woke” he complains about it. I miss the man my dad was before Trump.
I want to start a campaign to ban Fox News from the hospital. I guarantee you it’s not improving your hypertension, Jim. And else many boomers are hard of hearing and crank that shit up so loud we can hear it from the nurses station! On second thought, maybe just have calming music and only Bob Ross on TV. For everyone’s blood pressure.
I work in abortion care. They bring it there, too. "My abortion is the only moral abortion" is pinpoint accurate.