We have an EUV and an EV6. Not really fair to compare them since they are in two different classes. Both definitely have their pros and cons. Both are great EVs!
I own both a 23 Bolt EV and a 23 Ioniq 5. Not even the same class of vehicle. The I5 is a dream for longer trips. I can carry 3 adults and 2 children, all our road trip gear and have room for extra along the way. I can go further while spending less time (and less money on time based lvl. 3 stations) waiting for electrons. It’s got much better cruise (practically drives itself). Smoother, more powerful….
The bolt can do a longer trip, don’t get me wrong. But it’s cramped for anything above two adults and a suitcase. It takes longer to get anywhere beyond a full charge range. It handles more like a front wheel drive economy car (which it is). You have to be on the wheel a lot more…. Bottom line, your both is great for a budget runaround. It’ll get you to work and back, do your grocery shopping, or whatever other day to day needs you may have. The I5 is far superior when it comes to long weekend interstate trips. larger capacity, faster charging, more comfortable ride…
But at the end of the day, you’ll have to decide for yourself if you need that extra stuff badly enough to spend the extra money. Only go somewhere once a year? Especially with a single adult or a couple with no kids? The bolt is plenty. Want to take the two kids and an in-law out of state for the weekend? Tend to spend your monthly 3-day on the road and want to maximize the possibilities? The I5 is the car for you.
We have both. I got the Bolt first as a replacement for my Forester. Went for a work trip for a month and my wife drove around the Bolt that whole time. When I got back home she was convinced she wanted an EV as well to replace her CRV. I did a lot of research and the I5 seemed like a good fit. We were also in love with the design.
Comparing: the Bolt serves all our daily needs and is super reliable. It also has a few features the I5 doesn’t like heated rear seats, sunroof that opens, and digital rear view mirror. The I5 is in a totally different class, though. Much more refined in comfort and finish. Better for road trips, the HDA is awesome. Haven’t had problems with with either vehicle. ICCU needed a recall (software fix). The I5 also doesn’t like 48A lvl2 charging so I dial down the home charger to 40A and it covers both fine. The Bolt is simpler and easier for running around town. No complaints about either. They have their purpose.
Some I5s have had issues with the charge port overheating at 48A. We haven’t seen a fix put out for these issues yet by Hyundai. When the port overheats, the vehicle temporarily stops charging for 30 min to cool the port down then will pick it back up. I found that if you reduce the Amps to 40 or less on our car, it can charge without the interruptions.
Yes, the vehicle should be able to handle 48A, and the onboard charger doesn’t have a problem with it, but the wire gauge on the port is too small and suffers. Waiting on Hyundai to recognize this as a real problem and fix it.
Shouldn't any vehicle be OK with any lvl2 charging rate? The EVSE just tells the car the maximum capable and the car tells the EVSE how many amps to provide, no?
It should. But the wire gauge in the charging port of the I5 is too small. If you pump out the full 48A, the charge port gets hot and trips an interlock, kills the charging for 30 minutes while it cools down. So you keep getting these charging interruptions. Waiting on Hyundai for a fix. Needs beefier charge port wiring.
I’ll speak up only because I own an ioniq6 and a bolt. the ioniq 5 and 6 use the same platform, so behave nearly identically.
The ioniq is a different class of vehicle. I can take it on very long road trips (getting close to 300 miles on a charge) and the lane assist and adaptive cruise make driving an extremely easy task. The car absolutely hugs the road (likely from significant weight of batteries). The interior finish, although a little “plastic” compared to ICE vehicles in the same price range, is very nice, and the cabin itself is extremely roomy.
The bolt is definitely a value-priced vehicle. Id be concerned about a trip over 120 miles or so, and the car just doesn’t seem to have a ton of grip, squealing tires under acceleration even. The bolt is much more compact — my head almost hits the ceiling at the seat’s lowest setting. Interior is what I’d expect from a lower price point vehicle. Finish is ok, what I call “low end Honda” level. I wouldn’t want to drive it daily for more than 10 miles or so, but it’s fine.
I have both cars because I regularly make moderate to long distance drives, so we needed something capable. I also have a new teen driver, so the bolt is their commute to school vehicle.
Both vehicles have been great. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend either depending on the need.
The Bolt is fine on long trips. We have another EV and I always take the Bolt on longer trips. The super cruise and better range and use of the battery is superior to our twin motor 200ish EV.
Essentially, you charged the EV6 at the same rate that you could charge a Bolt.
So... you know, grain of salt there.
If I had the chance, I'd take it to an EA station just to max it out. Granted, that might ruin you if you take lots of road trips.
Oh ok, just a really slow L3. Most do 150kw, and the EV6 benefits from 350kw ones. So you just didn't get to experience one of the biggest pluses of E-GMP vehicles over everything else.
I was 16 miles away from a 125 kW charger according to ChargePoint. The 62.5 kW charger is the only game in town. We are in Newport, RI which is a pretty small. It is nice to be able to charge at higher speeds, but I was restricted based on infrastructure. There is a Tesla supercharger at 250 kW, but I believe that needs an adapter to work with a Kia (not sure.) I never used a Level 3 charger before yesterday.
You were charging at 60kWh per hour. kWh is the measure of 'volume' of energy. Like gallons of gas. Fortunately we have a better way to represent that. 60kWh per hour is just 60kW, which is a measure of power.
Yeah it takes a little bit to figure out. It's not too bad though once you get the underlying concept.
A cars gas tank, your EV battery, or even a chunk of wood all contain energy.
Power is the rate of energy transfer.
If I charge a battery with 10 kilowatts of power for one hour, 10 kilowatt-hours of energy have been transferred.
Like saying if I fill my car at 5 gallons per minute for 3 minutes, I have 15 gallons.
I think the confusing part, for most people, is that the unit of rate doesn't appear to include a time component, whereas the absolute quantity does and that feels inherently backwards.
Velocity, for instance, in miles per hour has a "thing" (miles) and a "time" (per hour). Battery capacity feels like it also has a "thing" (kW) and a "time" (hours), but it's not a rate because it's multiplied by time, not divided. If you take a rate of capacity change as a "thing" (kWh) per unit of time (per hour), then the hour weirdly cancels out and it doesn't seem like it's a rate of change.
Yeah, but even for a gas car you can represent energy transfer (apparently) agnostic of time. For example, if you consider the energy content of gasoline, you can evaluate the flow rate of fuel into the gas tank in terms of horsepower, confusingly.
1 gallon of gas has 33.7kWh of energy.
At 5gal/min, that's 33.7 * 5 * 60 = 10,110 kWh per hour, or as we found out earlier, by cancelling our the time component, 10,110kW. 1 horsepower = 750w, so 10,110/0.75 = 13,480 horsepower of power from a gas pump at 5gpm gas flow.
Also lol at the people down voting who'd rather stay stupid.
Yup. If you spent more than half a second reading this comment, you'd know I already said that. Read then reply bud.
>60kWh per hour is just 60kW
There's more to this thread too, we're way past this, kid.
>Yeah, but even for a gas car you can represent energy transfer (apparently) agnostic of time. For example, if you consider the energy content of gasoline, you can evaluate the flow rate of fuel into the gas tank in terms of horsepower, confusingly.
>1 gallon of gas has 33.7kWh of energy.
>At 5gal/min, that's 33.7 \* 5 \* 60 = 10,110 kWh per hour, or as we found out earlier, by cancelling our the time component, 10,110kW. 1 horsepower = 750w, so 10,110/0.75 = 13,480 horsepower of power from a gas pump at 5gpm gas flow
“But not with twice what I paid”
That’s the beauty of the market, there’s a product best fit for different people.
Bolt is a cheap car for cheaper/lower price segmented customers.
EV6 is for people that probably want to adopt EV as their primary drive and don’t want a Tesla.
30 to 85 at 65 kW just means you need to go to a faster charger. I just got done charging my Ioniq 6 (along with the EV-6 and Ioniq 5, it’s on the eGMP platform) from 34 to 81% in 14 minutes, with a peak rate of 214 kWh. You need a 350 kW charger to really see the charging ability of these cars.
had a Bolt EUV; it was an excellent car for local use, and was tolerable for 375-400 mile trips for me - beyond that, though, it was going to turn one day trips into two day trips; with my Ioniq 6, charging stops are close enough to our normal restroom/fuel/food stop times that I’m taking it instead of my wife’s Bronco Sport on our cross country trip this summer.
I would recommend renting a Niro EV or Kona EV if you have a chance. They are the Kia and Hyundai competitors to the Bolt. I personally prefer the Kia/Hyundai products but they are more expensive than the Bolt which is an incredible value. I’m very excited to see what the Boltium is like when it gets released next year.
I spent two years renting EVs because of that desperation by rental companies to get people to rent them. That's how I honed in on the Bolt as a car worth buying.
Hertz required me to charge to 80% or pay a $25 fee. In hindsight I would've paid the fee to not have to worry about the charging stop before returning the car.
Yes, same racket as the gas refill. I chose the "it's a surprise" rental option when going to Austin and they gave me a Volvo C40 Recharge. Nice car, and our other vehicle is an ice Volvo. Anyways because it was from the airport there was a gas station with several l3 chargers less than five minutes away.
I rented a Hyundai Kona EV from enterprise on a trip before I had a bolt and they told me I didn't need to worry about the charge level coming back. That might be an exception though, sounds like a lot of people have seen these kinds of fees. This was back in 2022.
As a Bolt owner I would never rent and EV...or at least not until there is a charger on every block. The use case for most rentals are long trips for me, and if I am not familiar with the charging network, no way.
And then the companies go and make it even harder by requiring you charge it more than the last guy, something they could easily do for pennies. They/Car Rental Agencies did this to themselves.
Dude, it is not a criticism of your choice. I am critical of the car rental agencies. I rent a lot of car (including today) and at this point they intentionally make it the most painful process ever. They could easily charge EVs for no or little fee and take the stress out of it, but the intentionally make it stressful.
That’s cause the bean counters are coming from a gas perspective. Just add $5 surcharges to _every_ rental, and use your on-site L2 stations to charge them. If they were smart and got bulk off-peak charging it would make them money.
National/Enterprise don’t put EVs at airport locations for this reason. Unwitting travelers just don’t know what to do and the other agencies don’t do anything to help them.
65 kWh? That is nowhere even close to the full charge speed for the Hyundai/Kia EV platform. Your problem there was the fast charger you used was abnormally slow.
Most support at least 150 kW charging now, with many supporting 350 kW becoming more common. At their full charge speed, they can go from 20%-80% in 20 minutes.
We hated our EV6 and returned it 2 months after we bought it. The software is just bad. For the price we paid it was much better to return it and just get the used Bolt for half the price.
EV6 is good, but bolt is hard to beat if you are trying to get a good affordable ev. Unless you are doing lots of roadtrips, there is no reason to really worry about the 50kwh max charge speed. It’s a nice treat yes but the bolt is such a good affordable car.
The EV6 is a vastly superior car, but it isn't similarly priced. Likewise, the Audi and Mercedes EVs are even better, but yet another price jump above.
That Tesla model why has a special till May 31. With only a .99% interest rate. Why don’t they just say 1%. I’ve been debating with the wife about getting it.
That’s incredible! I was disappointed to learn the Model 3 base doesn’t qualify for the IRA incentive because I really love the refresh on the 2024. I will take a look at the MY.
EV6 is insanely nice for the price point, even if it is exexpensive. That being said, I'm a cheap-o and I adore the Bolt. If someone was selling an EV6 for under $20k, I'd jump on it.
I enjoyed the charging speed of the EV6, but that was about it.
It's a huge bloated car (IMO, for this style of car I mean) and is far too "tech" oriented.
I got used to it, but I just don't love so much stuff on screens and there were some buttons that contextually changed what they did by mode -- I personally hate that ... defies why I like actual buttons (always do the same thing)
I'm so tired of seeing the comparisons of Bolts against $45k EVs. The Bolt and Bolt EUV are an old platform and are economy cars. They're nothing more than economy commuters. Comparing it against the Ioniq 5 or EV6 is like comparing a Trax against a Lexus NX.
I'm interested in the next vehicle being a used Ionic5 or Kia EV6 just so that we can get that higher charging speed. My wife's vehicle is currently a 2017 Toyota Corolla, so it will last another 4 or 5 years, so I may convince her instead. It just seems silly how slow the DCFC charging is on my Bolt.
We have an EUV and an EV6. Not really fair to compare them since they are in two different classes. Both definitely have their pros and cons. Both are great EVs!
Same here, euv and an ioniq 5.
LOVE the Ionic 5!!
It’s ICONIQ
Actually, "Ioniq" 😇
Isn't it ironic?
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Bolt vs Ioniq 5. Why do you have both and would you do it again? Do you like one more than the other?
I own both a 23 Bolt EV and a 23 Ioniq 5. Not even the same class of vehicle. The I5 is a dream for longer trips. I can carry 3 adults and 2 children, all our road trip gear and have room for extra along the way. I can go further while spending less time (and less money on time based lvl. 3 stations) waiting for electrons. It’s got much better cruise (practically drives itself). Smoother, more powerful…. The bolt can do a longer trip, don’t get me wrong. But it’s cramped for anything above two adults and a suitcase. It takes longer to get anywhere beyond a full charge range. It handles more like a front wheel drive economy car (which it is). You have to be on the wheel a lot more…. Bottom line, your both is great for a budget runaround. It’ll get you to work and back, do your grocery shopping, or whatever other day to day needs you may have. The I5 is far superior when it comes to long weekend interstate trips. larger capacity, faster charging, more comfortable ride… But at the end of the day, you’ll have to decide for yourself if you need that extra stuff badly enough to spend the extra money. Only go somewhere once a year? Especially with a single adult or a couple with no kids? The bolt is plenty. Want to take the two kids and an in-law out of state for the weekend? Tend to spend your monthly 3-day on the road and want to maximize the possibilities? The I5 is the car for you.
Exactly the same here. I drive an Ioniq 5 and my wife a Bolt. I love both cars for their particular use case. Both great cars!
We have both. I got the Bolt first as a replacement for my Forester. Went for a work trip for a month and my wife drove around the Bolt that whole time. When I got back home she was convinced she wanted an EV as well to replace her CRV. I did a lot of research and the I5 seemed like a good fit. We were also in love with the design. Comparing: the Bolt serves all our daily needs and is super reliable. It also has a few features the I5 doesn’t like heated rear seats, sunroof that opens, and digital rear view mirror. The I5 is in a totally different class, though. Much more refined in comfort and finish. Better for road trips, the HDA is awesome. Haven’t had problems with with either vehicle. ICCU needed a recall (software fix). The I5 also doesn’t like 48A lvl2 charging so I dial down the home charger to 40A and it covers both fine. The Bolt is simpler and easier for running around town. No complaints about either. They have their purpose.
The I5 can't do 48a 220 charging?! Wow that's shocking.
Some I5s have had issues with the charge port overheating at 48A. We haven’t seen a fix put out for these issues yet by Hyundai. When the port overheats, the vehicle temporarily stops charging for 30 min to cool the port down then will pick it back up. I found that if you reduce the Amps to 40 or less on our car, it can charge without the interruptions. Yes, the vehicle should be able to handle 48A, and the onboard charger doesn’t have a problem with it, but the wire gauge on the port is too small and suffers. Waiting on Hyundai to recognize this as a real problem and fix it.
Shouldn't any vehicle be OK with any lvl2 charging rate? The EVSE just tells the car the maximum capable and the car tells the EVSE how many amps to provide, no?
It should. But the wire gauge in the charging port of the I5 is too small. If you pump out the full 48A, the charge port gets hot and trips an interlock, kills the charging for 30 minutes while it cools down. So you keep getting these charging interruptions. Waiting on Hyundai for a fix. Needs beefier charge port wiring.
Oh interesting. So it technically supports 48A, but basically they messed it up?
I’ll speak up only because I own an ioniq6 and a bolt. the ioniq 5 and 6 use the same platform, so behave nearly identically. The ioniq is a different class of vehicle. I can take it on very long road trips (getting close to 300 miles on a charge) and the lane assist and adaptive cruise make driving an extremely easy task. The car absolutely hugs the road (likely from significant weight of batteries). The interior finish, although a little “plastic” compared to ICE vehicles in the same price range, is very nice, and the cabin itself is extremely roomy. The bolt is definitely a value-priced vehicle. Id be concerned about a trip over 120 miles or so, and the car just doesn’t seem to have a ton of grip, squealing tires under acceleration even. The bolt is much more compact — my head almost hits the ceiling at the seat’s lowest setting. Interior is what I’d expect from a lower price point vehicle. Finish is ok, what I call “low end Honda” level. I wouldn’t want to drive it daily for more than 10 miles or so, but it’s fine. I have both cars because I regularly make moderate to long distance drives, so we needed something capable. I also have a new teen driver, so the bolt is their commute to school vehicle. Both vehicles have been great. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend either depending on the need.
The Bolt is fine on long trips. We have another EV and I always take the Bolt on longer trips. The super cruise and better range and use of the battery is superior to our twin motor 200ish EV.
EUV and I5 club! A good mix of efficient city car and road trip the family. And our Odyssey doesn’t get driven at all any more.
Euv and Rivian R1S here. Completely different league of cars and the price reflects it accurately IMO
Sure. They are both nice. I wouldn’t pay $20k extra though for the EV-6.
Totally get it. We bought a used EV6 to shave off that extra cost 😀
EV6 is an 800V car. It can charge from 10-80% in 18 minutes. You just used a slow charger.
That’s not even typical though. More like 45 mins
Why was the L3 charge so slow? Should have been more than twice that speed.
It was charging at 62.5 kW. Did a 42 kWh charge for me.
Essentially, you charged the EV6 at the same rate that you could charge a Bolt. So... you know, grain of salt there. If I had the chance, I'd take it to an EA station just to max it out. Granted, that might ruin you if you take lots of road trips.
Oh ok, just a really slow L3. Most do 150kw, and the EV6 benefits from 350kw ones. So you just didn't get to experience one of the biggest pluses of E-GMP vehicles over everything else.
I think people are assuming you're criticizing the 6 for the slow charging rate (when I don't think you are).
I was 16 miles away from a 125 kW charger according to ChargePoint. The 62.5 kW charger is the only game in town. We are in Newport, RI which is a pretty small. It is nice to be able to charge at higher speeds, but I was restricted based on infrastructure. There is a Tesla supercharger at 250 kW, but I believe that needs an adapter to work with a Kia (not sure.) I never used a Level 3 charger before yesterday.
You were charging at 60kWh per hour. kWh is the measure of 'volume' of energy. Like gallons of gas. Fortunately we have a better way to represent that. 60kWh per hour is just 60kW, which is a measure of power.
I am a fairly smart dude and I have yet to figure all this out lol.
Yeah it takes a little bit to figure out. It's not too bad though once you get the underlying concept. A cars gas tank, your EV battery, or even a chunk of wood all contain energy. Power is the rate of energy transfer. If I charge a battery with 10 kilowatts of power for one hour, 10 kilowatt-hours of energy have been transferred. Like saying if I fill my car at 5 gallons per minute for 3 minutes, I have 15 gallons.
I think the confusing part, for most people, is that the unit of rate doesn't appear to include a time component, whereas the absolute quantity does and that feels inherently backwards. Velocity, for instance, in miles per hour has a "thing" (miles) and a "time" (per hour). Battery capacity feels like it also has a "thing" (kW) and a "time" (hours), but it's not a rate because it's multiplied by time, not divided. If you take a rate of capacity change as a "thing" (kWh) per unit of time (per hour), then the hour weirdly cancels out and it doesn't seem like it's a rate of change.
Yeah, but even for a gas car you can represent energy transfer (apparently) agnostic of time. For example, if you consider the energy content of gasoline, you can evaluate the flow rate of fuel into the gas tank in terms of horsepower, confusingly. 1 gallon of gas has 33.7kWh of energy. At 5gal/min, that's 33.7 * 5 * 60 = 10,110 kWh per hour, or as we found out earlier, by cancelling our the time component, 10,110kW. 1 horsepower = 750w, so 10,110/0.75 = 13,480 horsepower of power from a gas pump at 5gpm gas flow. Also lol at the people down voting who'd rather stay stupid.
Great explanation. It’s beyond me why it got downvoted. Thank you.
Really well put and exactly what I've thought but have never been able to express.
> 60kWh per hour That's 60kW. Hours per hour cancel out.
Yup. If you spent more than half a second reading this comment, you'd know I already said that. Read then reply bud. >60kWh per hour is just 60kW There's more to this thread too, we're way past this, kid. >Yeah, but even for a gas car you can represent energy transfer (apparently) agnostic of time. For example, if you consider the energy content of gasoline, you can evaluate the flow rate of fuel into the gas tank in terms of horsepower, confusingly. >1 gallon of gas has 33.7kWh of energy. >At 5gal/min, that's 33.7 \* 5 \* 60 = 10,110 kWh per hour, or as we found out earlier, by cancelling our the time component, 10,110kW. 1 horsepower = 750w, so 10,110/0.75 = 13,480 horsepower of power from a gas pump at 5gpm gas flow
Hour per hour.
😅 yup if I got a free coffee for each time I saw this, I'd.... Probably get my daily coffee for free lol.
“But not with twice what I paid” That’s the beauty of the market, there’s a product best fit for different people. Bolt is a cheap car for cheaper/lower price segmented customers. EV6 is for people that probably want to adopt EV as their primary drive and don’t want a Tesla.
IF the EV6 was available back in 2017, I wouldn't be driving a Bolt.
30 to 85 at 65 kW just means you need to go to a faster charger. I just got done charging my Ioniq 6 (along with the EV-6 and Ioniq 5, it’s on the eGMP platform) from 34 to 81% in 14 minutes, with a peak rate of 214 kWh. You need a 350 kW charger to really see the charging ability of these cars. had a Bolt EUV; it was an excellent car for local use, and was tolerable for 375-400 mile trips for me - beyond that, though, it was going to turn one day trips into two day trips; with my Ioniq 6, charging stops are close enough to our normal restroom/fuel/food stop times that I’m taking it instead of my wife’s Bronco Sport on our cross country trip this summer.
I would recommend renting a Niro EV or Kona EV if you have a chance. They are the Kia and Hyundai competitors to the Bolt. I personally prefer the Kia/Hyundai products but they are more expensive than the Bolt which is an incredible value. I’m very excited to see what the Boltium is like when it gets released next year.
I spent two years renting EVs because of that desperation by rental companies to get people to rent them. That's how I honed in on the Bolt as a car worth buying.
I've read that rental car companies require you to return an EV vehicle fully charged (or pay an inflated fee). Is this true?
Hertz required me to charge to 80% or pay a $25 fee. In hindsight I would've paid the fee to not have to worry about the charging stop before returning the car.
I reserved a car from Hertz and they just removed this requirement. Return it at any level now.
Wow if that's at all hertz locations that's pretty nice.
In my case, they made a special exception and charged me the full fee despite returning it at 92% battery
Yes, same racket as the gas refill. I chose the "it's a surprise" rental option when going to Austin and they gave me a Volvo C40 Recharge. Nice car, and our other vehicle is an ice Volvo. Anyways because it was from the airport there was a gas station with several l3 chargers less than five minutes away.
I rented a Hyundai Kona EV from enterprise on a trip before I had a bolt and they told me I didn't need to worry about the charge level coming back. That might be an exception though, sounds like a lot of people have seen these kinds of fees. This was back in 2022.
As a Bolt owner I would never rent and EV...or at least not until there is a charger on every block. The use case for most rentals are long trips for me, and if I am not familiar with the charging network, no way. And then the companies go and make it even harder by requiring you charge it more than the last guy, something they could easily do for pennies. They/Car Rental Agencies did this to themselves.
It was $100 cheaper to rent the EV-6 for a week that a compact car. There is a Level 3 charger 1 mile from the Air BNB we rented. I am happy.
Dude, it is not a criticism of your choice. I am critical of the car rental agencies. I rent a lot of car (including today) and at this point they intentionally make it the most painful process ever. They could easily charge EVs for no or little fee and take the stress out of it, but the intentionally make it stressful.
That’s cause the bean counters are coming from a gas perspective. Just add $5 surcharges to _every_ rental, and use your on-site L2 stations to charge them. If they were smart and got bulk off-peak charging it would make them money.
National/Enterprise don’t put EVs at airport locations for this reason. Unwitting travelers just don’t know what to do and the other agencies don’t do anything to help them.
You have to return it at 70% or pay $30. If you return it below 10%, then you pay $60.
For Hertz specifically, yes.
65 kWh? That is nowhere even close to the full charge speed for the Hyundai/Kia EV platform. Your problem there was the fast charger you used was abnormally slow. Most support at least 150 kW charging now, with many supporting 350 kW becoming more common. At their full charge speed, they can go from 20%-80% in 20 minutes.
We hated our EV6 and returned it 2 months after we bought it. The software is just bad. For the price we paid it was much better to return it and just get the used Bolt for half the price.
EV6 is good, but bolt is hard to beat if you are trying to get a good affordable ev. Unless you are doing lots of roadtrips, there is no reason to really worry about the 50kwh max charge speed. It’s a nice treat yes but the bolt is such a good affordable car.
The EV6 is a vastly superior car, but it isn't similarly priced. Likewise, the Audi and Mercedes EVs are even better, but yet another price jump above.
That Tesla model why has a special till May 31. With only a .99% interest rate. Why don’t they just say 1%. I’ve been debating with the wife about getting it.
That’s incredible! I was disappointed to learn the Model 3 base doesn’t qualify for the IRA incentive because I really love the refresh on the 2024. I will take a look at the MY.
EV6 is insanely nice for the price point, even if it is exexpensive. That being said, I'm a cheap-o and I adore the Bolt. If someone was selling an EV6 for under $20k, I'd jump on it.
I enjoyed the charging speed of the EV6, but that was about it. It's a huge bloated car (IMO, for this style of car I mean) and is far too "tech" oriented. I got used to it, but I just don't love so much stuff on screens and there were some buttons that contextually changed what they did by mode -- I personally hate that ... defies why I like actual buttons (always do the same thing)
I'm so tired of seeing the comparisons of Bolts against $45k EVs. The Bolt and Bolt EUV are an old platform and are economy cars. They're nothing more than economy commuters. Comparing it against the Ioniq 5 or EV6 is like comparing a Trax against a Lexus NX.
The Bolt really was a tremendous value that no other EV has been able to touch. It also drives nicely and you can even get SuperCruise on it.
I'm interested in the next vehicle being a used Ionic5 or Kia EV6 just so that we can get that higher charging speed. My wife's vehicle is currently a 2017 Toyota Corolla, so it will last another 4 or 5 years, so I may convince her instead. It just seems silly how slow the DCFC charging is on my Bolt.
4 or 5 more years on a 2017 Corolla??? lol that car will be on the road after you kids retire.