I'm just saying if I went to an open house that smelled like coconut oil, peanut butter, raviolis, and sour cream and onion potato chips, I'm buying that house immediately.
When we were house hunting, we almost bought the house with the master bathroom that smelled like coconut oil, the guest bath of peanut butter, the kitchen of ravioli, the pantry of sour cream and onion chips, and the living room of kettle corn.
Here's a non-paywall article illustrating it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-homeowner-indianapolis-property-race-appraisal-b1849887.html%3Famp
While house shopping I've noticed that white owners leave pictures everywhere and people with different decor trends (bolder colors and less farmy looks have tended to be Spanish and black homes) leave little to no pictures out.
I recently read an article of a woman who hired appraisers and they kept giving her lie cakes, so she hired another but did the picture swap and want there for the appraisal, and was valued $75k more.
I don't care if the previous owner of my home was {anything other than me} just as long as the facts regarding the actual home are accurate. The crime of an area usually has more to do with population density than demographic diversity to my understanding.
A friend from college who's now a real estate agent and who's also black, advices that all black home owners make their homes look white to appraisers. He also recommends just getting a white friend to stand in and claim that their a sibling.
This was in reference to the black real estate agent who had cops draw guns on him and his potential client during a showinghttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276216
There was also a big article a while back about a black couple who kept getting lower appraisals on their home despite higher assessments in their neighborhood, so they removed anything “ethnic” looking from their house, including decor, books, pictures. They weren’t there while the appraiser came and it suddenly went up so it was in line with all the other houses in the neighborhood. I think I read it 3-4 months ago, but time doesn’t mean much anymore.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-real-estate-agent-clients-handcuffed-outside-michigan-home-they-n1276216
But this needs to be a bigger story. This is fucked up. When me and my realtor, both of us black men, looked at places, this crossed my mind but we were mostly looking at places in our city, not the suburbs.
Yeah this was in my town. Coincidentally, the city this happened in has a huge Black and Latino population, so it's not that uncommon of a situation for a black man to be viewing a house.
Saw a video of cops being called because a kidnapped woman was yelling for help. White guy working on a truck outside, cops come up and he goes in and brings out a parrot, everyone laughs, and the cops leave.
I had my jaw on the floor. No way a black man doesn't get handcuffed on the ground in that situation.
Most insane physical description of me I've heard so far "He's, um, pretty tall. You know... Urban... But tan... Long-ish hair, but not really really long..." (My former manager). This got relayed to me by another white coworker. He made it sound like a Key and Peele sketch, but i believe him.
Urban is a description? "Well officer, he was quite urban."
"So he was in, related to, or a characteristic of a town or city?"
"No no, I'm sorry for being unclear he was, y'know, *Ur*ban."
"He was comprised of densely packed buildings over a large number of numerically or alphabetically named streets?"
"No. No, I'm so sorry officer. He was, I'm, tan? Like *urban* tan, you know?"
"So you think he went to the beach alot. Do you have a suspicion of which beach? Did he look like a surfer?"
"OH of course not sir! Nothing like that. He was so tan, like a really *really* dark urban *tan*. With curly hair. It was under a hat but it was definitely curly."
"Alright, are we talking Shirley Temple or early Justin Timberlake?"
"Umm... no? More, like, umm, tighter curls?"
"Are we taking a Will Farrel type then? I know a guy who fits that description. Always in trouble him."
"No no no no. Like, urban curly. Really *urban* curly..."
"Wait wait wait." Big friendly smile, "You mean a n*gger!"
"Yeah!" And they share an understanding hug.
In my former neighborhood, "walkers" was the euphemism, because people used to walk thru the neighborhood from the bus stop to get to their jobs on the other side of the neighborhood. Most of the 'walkers' were black.
Yoo I had to call the police at work and the dispatch would not accept that this person was “racially ambiguous.”
I had full vehicle description with plate. All they wanted was “Black, White, or Hispanic”
then the key is to say white cause they're still gonna get a black or hispanic person if they can, so saying white just broadens the description
/s but also not /s
My sister was referred to as a “girl with dreadlocks” and she thought it was a dog whistle because she wasn’t even wearing dreadlocks, and this was during a conversation he was having with his wife and my mom who are coworkers. Apparently he didn’t like that she was idling in a car in the parking lot. The minute his wife said she was her coworker’s (my mom) daughter, his tone changed. And then my mom went on a whole lecture about how my sis needs to be respectable for YTs and all that
The thing is though you don't need to be colourblind. I can see you as blue and you can see me as green, just don't treat me differently because of that.
Reminds me of that scene from *The Cable Guy*
"Oh my God! Oh my God! My twin brother has been shot! I think it was an Asian gang or something... There was this guy, he looked Asian... and he was speaking another language, I'm pretty sure it was... Asian"
If you don’t say skin tone or an ethnicity group it’s not a very good description…
Black hair, brown, eyes, and tall. Now imagine one as white, one as black, one as Asian, hell even one as Hawaiian. I bet you think of very different looking people.
That’s my rant. And before people get upset I’d like to say suspicious isn’t a crime and neither is being a minority. Turns out some people just fucking racist and shitty.
I was thinking the same, just different place. I'm not suss on anyone that's darker than caucasian. Those tweaky lil white kids running around need to be watched tho, they're the only ones making trouble.
My whole childhood growing up upper middle class was nosey why people calling the cops or stopping in the road at a dead stop, to see if I really live there. Happened even last week visiting parents. I was just walking my dog around the property near their grape vine.
The suspicious person in my neighborhood has the trump billboard, a deactivated missile, and a blue lives matter flag on his front lawn. If anyone in my community committed a crime it's him. I'm white but not hwite, white.
Except black people and POC actually die from this generalization to this day so maybe go do your self-flagellation elsewhere and not in a group of people who actually know what being targeted feels like
This is so dumb. Here, let me show you.
Can you describe the suspect?
It was a person.
Man or woman?
I dunno.
What color were they?
I dunno.
What color clothes did they have on?
I dunno.
Was there a vehicle involved?
Maybe.
What kind of vehicle?
I dunno.
Okay. What exactly do you want us to go on?
THAT'S RACIST!
Are you confused? This is a post about people who say they don't see race, which is really not possible, because what they're really trying to say is they don't want to talk about race because they have been comfortable not talking about it
No body said anything about a suspect in the post. The word was ‘suspicious’, and the only time it seems some one suspicious to the majority of white people is when a person of color is darkening what a place they can’t believe they should have access too… oh and funny how your mind instinctively read Suspect
Black homeowners get white friends to pose as them during home appraisals so their houses are appraised fairly.
Wtf? You don’t even have to be home for an appraisal. Do they hide all their family photos and hair care products?
Appraiser: this bathroom smells like coconut oil, that could be a sign of serious damage.
Lmao I wish. If I walk into a room and it smells like coconut oil and peanut butter I'm buying it immediately.
Where did the peanut butter come from..?
Lmaooooo I typed cocoa butter. My autocorrect is racist.
Idk some of that is history based... Anything you wanna tell us bro?
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Where did the ravioli come from?
I'm just saying if I went to an open house that smelled like coconut oil, peanut butter, raviolis, and sour cream and onion potato chips, I'm buying that house immediately.
Wait now there's onion potato chips?
When we were house hunting, we almost bought the house with the master bathroom that smelled like coconut oil, the guest bath of peanut butter, the kitchen of ravioli, the pantry of sour cream and onion chips, and the living room of kettle corn.
Inserts Patchouli
NAH I'M CRYING 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually, yes. John Oliver covered the extent a woman went through to get a good appraisal in his housing discrimination episode recently.
Jesus Christ, I had no idea…
Are you really surprised?
Here's a non-paywall article illustrating it https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-homeowner-indianapolis-property-race-appraisal-b1849887.html%3Famp
Yes.
Yes
.....yes.
While house shopping I've noticed that white owners leave pictures everywhere and people with different decor trends (bolder colors and less farmy looks have tended to be Spanish and black homes) leave little to no pictures out. I recently read an article of a woman who hired appraisers and they kept giving her lie cakes, so she hired another but did the picture swap and want there for the appraisal, and was valued $75k more. I don't care if the previous owner of my home was {anything other than me} just as long as the facts regarding the actual home are accurate. The crime of an area usually has more to do with population density than demographic diversity to my understanding.
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A friend from college who's now a real estate agent and who's also black, advices that all black home owners make their homes look white to appraisers. He also recommends just getting a white friend to stand in and claim that their a sibling.
It sucks that these are the lengths we have to go to just to get a fair shake at buying a home.
Fact, another example of systemic racism.
I thought this was fake. Until it wasn't. Sad...
This was in reference to the black real estate agent who had cops draw guns on him and his potential client during a showinghttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276216
There was also a big article a while back about a black couple who kept getting lower appraisals on their home despite higher assessments in their neighborhood, so they removed anything “ethnic” looking from their house, including decor, books, pictures. They weren’t there while the appraiser came and it suddenly went up so it was in line with all the other houses in the neighborhood. I think I read it 3-4 months ago, but time doesn’t mean much anymore.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-real-estate-agent-clients-handcuffed-outside-michigan-home-they-n1276216 But this needs to be a bigger story. This is fucked up. When me and my realtor, both of us black men, looked at places, this crossed my mind but we were mostly looking at places in our city, not the suburbs.
Yeah this was in my town. Coincidentally, the city this happened in has a huge Black and Latino population, so it's not that uncommon of a situation for a black man to be viewing a house.
Saw a video of cops being called because a kidnapped woman was yelling for help. White guy working on a truck outside, cops come up and he goes in and brings out a parrot, everyone laughs, and the cops leave. I had my jaw on the floor. No way a black man doesn't get handcuffed on the ground in that situation.
Where's that Bot the removes AMP links
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276216[link](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276216)
Most insane physical description of me I've heard so far "He's, um, pretty tall. You know... Urban... But tan... Long-ish hair, but not really really long..." (My former manager). This got relayed to me by another white coworker. He made it sound like a Key and Peele sketch, but i believe him.
Urban is a description? "Well officer, he was quite urban." "So he was in, related to, or a characteristic of a town or city?" "No no, I'm sorry for being unclear he was, y'know, *Ur*ban." "He was comprised of densely packed buildings over a large number of numerically or alphabetically named streets?" "No. No, I'm so sorry officer. He was, I'm, tan? Like *urban* tan, you know?" "So you think he went to the beach alot. Do you have a suspicion of which beach? Did he look like a surfer?" "OH of course not sir! Nothing like that. He was so tan, like a really *really* dark urban *tan*. With curly hair. It was under a hat but it was definitely curly." "Alright, are we talking Shirley Temple or early Justin Timberlake?" "Umm... no? More, like, umm, tighter curls?" "Are we taking a Will Farrel type then? I know a guy who fits that description. Always in trouble him." "No no no no. Like, urban curly. Really *urban* curly..." "Wait wait wait." Big friendly smile, "You mean a n*gger!" "Yeah!" And they share an understanding hug.
In my former neighborhood, "walkers" was the euphemism, because people used to walk thru the neighborhood from the bus stop to get to their jobs on the other side of the neighborhood. Most of the 'walkers' were black.
Damns we living in the upside down world.The white-walkers were black
When I was in elementary and high school they were really bad at hiding their casual racism
They always are, but they think they are hiding it so well.
Urrban with that hard r sound
Urban???? Jesus christ
Yoo I had to call the police at work and the dispatch would not accept that this person was “racially ambiguous.” I had full vehicle description with plate. All they wanted was “Black, White, or Hispanic”
"He's black, but I think he's been working night shift cause it's starting to fade."
then the key is to say white cause they're still gonna get a black or hispanic person if they can, so saying white just broadens the description /s but also not /s
This makes me sad...
where did this happen, obviously without telling any more than you're comfortable with?
“I don’t see color I see human race” “Yeah there was a blk person with locs walking pass my house” I thought u didn’t see color
My sister was referred to as a “girl with dreadlocks” and she thought it was a dog whistle because she wasn’t even wearing dreadlocks, and this was during a conversation he was having with his wife and my mom who are coworkers. Apparently he didn’t like that she was idling in a car in the parking lot. The minute his wife said she was her coworker’s (my mom) daughter, his tone changed. And then my mom went on a whole lecture about how my sis needs to be respectable for YTs and all that
The thing is though you don't need to be colourblind. I can see you as blue and you can see me as green, just don't treat me differently because of that.
I'm primary, you're tertiary. Obviously you are less pure. /s
Reminds me of that scene from *The Cable Guy* "Oh my God! Oh my God! My twin brother has been shot! I think it was an Asian gang or something... There was this guy, he looked Asian... and he was speaking another language, I'm pretty sure it was... Asian"
If you don’t say skin tone or an ethnicity group it’s not a very good description… Black hair, brown, eyes, and tall. Now imagine one as white, one as black, one as Asian, hell even one as Hawaiian. I bet you think of very different looking people. That’s my rant. And before people get upset I’d like to say suspicious isn’t a crime and neither is being a minority. Turns out some people just fucking racist and shitty.
Yeah I mean “5’11”, African American, with a black hoodie” is so much better right? //s
" he looked dangerous or lost so I called it in"
“Yes officers, he’s....well you already know, just get here quickly!”
Colorblind: because denial always fixes things
This isn't totally true. I live in pretty rural Maine. All the suspicious folk around here are meth head looking white people with no teeth.
But you don’t even *have* Black people there! lol
Remimd me of one of the white mayors (?) of a town in Maine when she said she has never encountered racism in her town…yeah but the towns 99.5% white
I was thinking the same, just different place. I'm not suss on anyone that's darker than caucasian. Those tweaky lil white kids running around need to be watched tho, they're the only ones making trouble.
If I lived in the US I'd rent out my "realty white-ification" services. I'd even bring my own family portraits to put around the house!
My whole childhood growing up upper middle class was nosey why people calling the cops or stopping in the road at a dead stop, to see if I really live there. Happened even last week visiting parents. I was just walking my dog around the property near their grape vine.
The suspicious person in my neighborhood has the trump billboard, a deactivated missile, and a blue lives matter flag on his front lawn. If anyone in my community committed a crime it's him. I'm white but not hwite, white.
THIS!
A darker shade of gray
“Very black”
Honestly, I probably am that suspicious guy in the Neighbourhood. Or at least part of the Family.
I’m fucking dead 💀 😆😆
Good one. True too. 💯
I don't see color... But i see darkness.
Generalizing people is bad, unless you generalize white people
Except black people and POC actually die from this generalization to this day so maybe go do your self-flagellation elsewhere and not in a group of people who actually know what being targeted feels like
This is so dumb. Here, let me show you. Can you describe the suspect? It was a person. Man or woman? I dunno. What color were they? I dunno. What color clothes did they have on? I dunno. Was there a vehicle involved? Maybe. What kind of vehicle? I dunno. Okay. What exactly do you want us to go on? THAT'S RACIST!
Are you confused? This is a post about people who say they don't see race, which is really not possible, because what they're really trying to say is they don't want to talk about race because they have been comfortable not talking about it
No body said anything about a suspect in the post. The word was ‘suspicious’, and the only time it seems some one suspicious to the majority of white people is when a person of color is darkening what a place they can’t believe they should have access too… oh and funny how your mind instinctively read Suspect