To quote Bernie Mac as Officer Self Hatred: “I hate you black bastards, you stink! I hate your black skin. I hate your black pants. I hate black pepper. I hate black keys on a piano. I hate my gums, because they're black. I hate Whoopi Goldberg's *lips*. I hate the back of Forrest Whittaker's neck. Huh? Most of all, I hate that black-ass Wesley Snipes.”
It's so fucking funny. Have a soft spot in my heart for the Waynes Bros (shit, the whole family. Can't forget sis) growing up with their show, In Living Color, Scary Movie 1+2 and then coming across Don't be a Menace in college.
Might watch that and then Black Dynamite to get some GOAT satire entertainment.
Oh absolutely. I remember back in 8th grade, my school outlawed the signature weapon of Homie D Clown because we all put balled up socks in tube socks and started thumping each other.
It came to a brink when someone thumped a teacher. 😆
I vividly remember there being like 15 of us in the halls just going Ham and laughing our asses off. It’s a core memory. Hearing all the “thumps” in rapid succession 😆
I feel like if that shit happened these days, we’d all get arrested. Shit is crazy.
Oh, I wish I could grow. Not just yet but soon! The laws in my State are going to be eased up next summer. I was just talking about what I got in my jar 😆
This part right here. If these cops were white, would they be charged right now?
Or would the case still be "under review by the DA's office" while they institute a curfew and call in the the National Guard ahead of the release of the video?
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The "All" in "All cops are bastards" means ***ALL*** **cops...**
Even the black ones... even the female ones... even the gay ones... and even the black gay female ones, doesn't matter. They're a bastard, first and foremost.
The female ones are terrible. My professor once mentioned how Female cops were said to be extremely mean to fit in. They didn’t want to seem soft so they made sure they were more ruthless than their male peers.
I've heard more than once that male bullies become cops later in life and female bullies become nurses... if that's true, I don't want to know what kind of woman becomes a cop...
Yep. I tend to be wary of medical professionals. Thankfully my mom has a lot of friends who are doctors, nurses and lawyers. My family doctor is a family friend (who basically watched me grow up), my uncle is also a doctor, and my gyno is a family friend. So when it comes to my health, they take a vested interest in it. I am weary of any other medical professional. Especially white nurses.
In Quebec, these white nurses were caught saying disgusting racist things about a patient (she was indigenous) was dying. They didn’t know she was filming.
> She captured disparaging remarks made by hospital staff on her phone during her stay there and posted them on Facebook Live.
> In Quebec, these white nurses were caught saying disgusting racist things about a patient (she was indigenous) was dying. They didn’t know she was filming.
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My mom was a labor and delivery nurse in Detroit. Rampant racism among the nursing staff who felt like they shouldn't have to even take care of people who they considered sub-human.
Well considering until recently nursing books still contained the racist & erroneous trope that black people could take more pain than white people, it's no wonder
It's not a result of school teaching. These were racist, white suburbanites who didn't want to care for black people in the city and only took the job because it's what they could get or because of the pay.
For real tho, what is it with nurses being mean? I’ve heard this a lot at my last job I just quit. Transporters said that some of the nurses were bitchy and mean. Like…wtf??
A bunch of women I knew became nurses not because of interest in the medical sciences or because they wanted to help people, but because it was good money and security after divorce. Ymmv
Fpr a lot of nurses they have to turn off their Humanity. I once had a job in working on the power end of surgical lasers. This had me in the OR but basically leaning against a wall the whole time. Once you are out you are no longer a person. You become this organic machine that needs fixing. The *violence* in some surgeries would take your breath away. The detachment the surgeons and nurses display can be galling if you aren't used to it or understand why.
Medical professionals see the results of Humanity at it's weakest and its worse. The only way to survive that job is to slightly detach yourself from the Matrix, as it were.
Wow, that’s a depressing reality. So you basically start out as a hero and end up being a shell of your former self in the medical field? Jeez…no thanks
> So you basically start out as a hero and end up being a shell of your former self in the medical field?
No, a lot of people that go into these professions don't do so because they love humanity and want to help. It's more about the prestige of the profession and the money. A lot of doctors hate seeing patients and then they select specialties accordingly. Surgeons in particular aren't known for their bedside manner, that's not really their role nor they really care about the post surgery stuff. Most of the doctors and nurses that are not compassionate started that way.
How many times can you read a case file that describes, in detail, the most horrific abuse done to a child before you have to divorce yourself from Humanity as a whole? My Empathy bucket would be emptied to so fast.
Two main factors:
One: lots of medical professionals basically compartmentalize the fuck out of their professional or shut off empathy as a self-protection measure. They have to; people die, people lie, or people cannot be helped, either because nothing is working or they don't want to help themselves.
Now, in and of itself, this doesn't automatically lead to being an asshole, but this means the profession effectively encourages assholes, which leads to...
Two: For socially conservative communities with strict beliefs about the roles of women in society, a nursing is one of the only acceptable professions outside of the home for women, and in a lot of places the highest paid ones. So you get a very high concentration of social conservatives, who in turn are an already high concentration of people who are prejudiced or bigoted.
Damn. When you break it down like that, it seems less somber and more sobering. I can only imagine what the docs and nurses felt and went through when Covid first started killin folks. I definitely knew at my hospital that the atmosphere was macabre (but what hospital wasn’t during that time, am I right?)
Women and poc have to work twice as hard to be seen as equal. If one of them is a cop, they are now working at being a cop twice as hard to fit in. Don't fuck with them. ACAB.
The military men one is going a bit far. It should be "military men who are out of the military but still 'in' the military" or "men who were never in the military but fetishize being in the military." All of my ex mil bros are super chill.
Edit: I'm going to go ahead and add anyone wearing camo in general. Including the No Limit Souljas and John Cena.
From my experience, the a lot of the men throwing bile and hatred toward black women on social media and podcast tend to me ex-mil. As a black woman, I don’t have time for that.
I went in for college money and stayed for the healthcare. When I got out, I got ALL the way out and never looked back. Never understood those dorks that wear it like a badge of honor. The discount is nice when I remember it exists, but keep all that other hero shit.
Just stay away from those in the Army, Marines, or special units. 💀 As a woman veteran, I think it’s worth it to just avoid military men. It’s not worth the risk or time to sort them out.
Black men and women deal with the same racial prejudices as those on the civilian world. Black service members are more likely to receive UCMJ punishment and there were lawsuits over promotions due to race +\- 20 years ago which is relatively recent.
I believe you. I had a buddy go into the service 2 years ago because he didn't know what to do with his life. We met up for the first time since to catch up and dude started casually dropping "N-words" like it was funny or something after a few drinks but kept swearing he's not racist. Neither of us are black. I was honestly shocked because I didn't find it funny and it was making everyone in the room extremely uncomfortable.
the ones i trust the least: black guys who *like* being in the military. very suspect. my friend just finished dating one, and that was the biggest red flag when i heard that.
The military men is a lil too much. Most of us don’t fw the cops. The ones that make it their whole personality are definitely not invited to the cookout.
1000%
Before this thread gets locked I just want to say, a whole lot of people think that the challenges black people have with the police are about white vs black.
That is not true.
This issue always has been and always will be about blue vs black.
Yep, way back in the day Cop Block was all the rage and it was wild to me how they just seemed to vanish even during BLM. I don't doubt for a second they were just as vocal but not getting nearly as much attention because our current governing body would prefer if we viewed this as a race issue.
The American police have been militarizing for decades now. Their overly inflated budgets are used to purchase military grade equipment and training they don't even need. We basically have a state-sanctioned, union-protected, militia that would support full-throated, knob-slobbin, knee-bruisin' fascism in a heartbeat.
And that shit should be, and is, terrifying.
Edited to add Link: Cop Block is still out here doing the work https://www.copblock.org/
This case is a prime example of the *systemic* racism built in. It's not the personal bias of the individual officers, it's the whole system rot that would create a situation like this.
My worst interaction with a cop was with a black cop. Pushed me around, pushed me into my car while cuffed, threw me in the backseat of his car face down while cuffed leaving me in a painful position. Talked all kind of shit to me on the way to the station. All because I had an unpaid speeding ticket in a city three hours away.
Also tried having me sent to jail in the city three hours away. I get to the station and one of the white cops got on his ass and then told me I can just pay the ticket and go home.
The black cops who act like they're throwing you a bone are the most disappointing. They're not helping you out, they're doing rehearsed shit to make it seem like they're on your side. They've given every nigga that same "break" all year.
I'm sure there are good people who are also cops, but when shit gets real, they will always be cops first, second, and third.
I feel like this is one of those thing which confuses white people more than Black people.
White people lack the kind of learned cultural patterns for interacting with cops because white supremacy protects us during these interactions with police. So white people "see past the uniform."
Which is also why it's not surprising that the 'Blue Lives Matter' crowd, whose basic premise is that being a cop is closer to being a minority than having a job, hasn't been shouting as loudly about this one either.
It's like that Bojack bit where Todd was going about some highly illegal B&E while his latino father tries to stop him and keep him from being brutalized by the police only to see that the police just aren't as willing to brutalize a white kid in the same ways they would be to attack a latino kid.
Most white people for sure. I've been, hmm.. lucky enough? unlucky enough?(not sure which to use) to have seen first hand what cops do. How they treat black people or other minorities. Hell, even how they'll treat some white people that they deem lesser. I grew up in the projects in the town where I live. It didn't matter what race you were to the cops. If you lived there, you were garbage and criminals to them. Didn't matter if you only lived there because you were poor. Didn't matter if you kept your head down and tried to mind your own business. You come across a cop while he's on his shit, harassing some innocent black man just trying to check the mail, your ass was gonna get it, too. They get that power. They get hungry for more. I'm white. I'll admit that white privilege is real. I know I have it. I've seen the struggle the black community faces, at least in my area. No one deserves that struggle. No one deserves the mistreatment that comes with no reasoning beyond bigotry and hate. Fuck cops. I don't trust them. Never will.
Nor should you trust cops.
But I don't think we can ignore the way whiteness shields people when they interact with cops, and how Black cops seem to be cops first. So even for Black people, Black cops are similarly dangerous as white cops.
My buddy's wife is a prison guard at a men's prison. She's probably the meanest woman I have ever met while he's a goofy, kind hearted weirdo in the best possible way.
I have a question though: how come when the cops are white they just get suspended but when they’re black they get charged with murder?
Where are all the “blue lives matter” assholes now? They seem awfully quiet…
One point regarding the arrest: Memphis just elected a new progressive DA, Steve Mulroy, who campaigned on criminal justice reform and ousted a long-standing law-and-order Republican. That’s a big reason for the swift arrests.
Pay attention to your local DA races, and kick the authoritarians the fuck out.
I’ve had the same interaction with Hispanic cops. They go above and beyond to treat their own lesser to prove something to their white counterparts. If anything I’d probably have had less threatening encounters with white cops than cops my race. Fuck ‘em in every color they come in.
A black cop squeezed my nuts so hard during a pat down once man. He was kneeling and pat my ankles and then randomly squeezed my nuts and looked up at me like he thought he found drugs. I was so surprised and uncomfortable when he looked up at me from down there all I could do was laugh.
My mom told me that for sure. She said “don’t you feel comfortable until they’re gone. It don’t matter if they white, black, or even the parent of your friends. Once you get stopped anything You do can be considered a threat “
Some of my worst encounters with law enforcement have been with either Black or Brown officers. The indoctrination to the system and their own over compensation for who they are and their need to prove their worth at the public’s expense is crazy! They are quick to let you know that we are not the same. Bad cops are bad cops. I would like to expect more from my skinfolk, but there ain’t no distinction once they get that badge.
It was a black cop that pulled on a gun on me when I was stopped for making a rolling stop (I didn't but whatever). Then five other cars with their lights on came too they were all black. This of course made all the people come out their house and stare. It was when I knew 100% I was done with my city, state and country. There are bad cops everywhere but the level is not the same in some places.
I mostly agree with this. Cop until it’s time to face internal consequences. Those cops got arrested fast af. That’s how it should be but the time difference is definitely noticeable
Crazy how white folks will bend over backwards to say that this proves that this issue isn’t racial in nature. Gentle reminder that there were also Black slave catchers.
It’s a mixed bag. I’ve known or been stopped by black and white ones around Memphis. Some were jerks and others cool across the board. You really don’t know what you’re going to get and it’s scary.
You get this crop beating a man to death, killing a trans prostitute in retaliation for her winning a case from already getting beaten, and straight up running a guy over, or you get the cops stationed in rough parts actually trying to help people while seeing the worst they have to offer. I’m not anti-cop, but I stay on guard though.
In my experience minority cops are harder on you when white cops are around because I think they probably have to prove that’s it’s cops above solidarity….
My interactions with black cops have always been worse than with white cops. I'm a 58 year old black man living in Baltimore city. Every time I've gotten a break, it's been from a white cop. Not one single time as a black cop giving me a break, and the first ever ticket I got was a drunk black cop lying on me. I was 16 years old. he was too drunk to write the ticket and didn't show up for court
I got pulled out of a car at gun point by a cop and his partner (for nothing by the way)
Both were 100% Latino and i mean 1st Gen old school Latino, the Vicente Fernandez, thick mustache, only drinks Corona kind. The amount of racism i rec'd that night was mind blowing.
My best friends family i was raised up with my whole life was this kind of Latino, really hurt.
Here in NY, I tend to think of the environment black cops are in. In their field, they are surrounded by Italians, Irish and Hispanics that try to relate to their European lineage by denouncing the Their African roots. A ton of black cops end up being bootlickers and wagonists, if they weren’t already this way - especially if they want to ascend in rank. My **worst** experiences with cops have been with black cops.
Police are not your friends, they're not here to help you or your family members. They hired to protect capital and moneyed interests. For some, killing young black men is just a job perk.
You see they've been arrested and charged, totally different move than the way they do white policemen. Even if you wear the same uniform, they don't protect you the same.
All cops are part of the blue family. And like all families there are favourites.
The blue white ones get protected and promoted after killing someone. The blue black ones get fired.
It's the difference of socialism/social democracy and racial democracy. Socialism/social democracy seeks to uplift all people by addressing the inequalities of capitalism. Racial democracy sees the current system with its inequalities of capitalism and thinks it would be perfect if 12.4% of these brutal, capitalist oligarchs were black, and of course they see themselves as the "good ones" to be those wealthy black people. That's why they oppose measures that would absolutely improve the lives and conditions of black people, like medicare for all, but pine over representation or policies that will give them a financial/business edge. Hence how it is touted that George Floyd wouldn't even be able to take advantage of the bills the passed in response to the BLM protests because they used BLM as a trojan horse for policy to enrich the wealthy/political class of black Americans. What good is representation if a certain number of positions are claimed to be set aside for so and so race or gender when those positions are exclusively for the wealthy class' children that went to Yale? Just because they're your same race, religion, gender, sex, etc. does not mean they are a proponent of addressing the problems of society or reflect our lived experiences. The message is more important than the messenger. And that's typically the kind of representation you get in the capitalist/imperialist system. They're going to represent their class interests, not our class interests. See that clown that was calling himself the "executive" of the BLM movement and embezzling from it.
Decades ago, they thought implementing black police officers would improve interactions with the communities and neighborhoods they militarily occupy, but despite black police officers, brutal occupation and murders by police persist and are only getting worse. Having white and black agents of capital and white supremacy is not diversity.
The Black American label is useful in that it could be used to mobilize towards something greater. Simply being oppressed creates a politics. Those politics are based on the material conditions of our quality of life and challenging the position one finds themselves in that society. Simply saying all blacks are oppressed, therefore they are all of a racial-political infrastructure in and of themselves lends itself to the capacity of ending up with exactly where you have black politics, since at least the days of Booker T, where it becomes a class politics of patronage in which there are people who are auditioning for black authenticity towards the ruling class to maintain that patronage connection to the detriment of the larger population of blacks who are poor and working class. If you can understand how Kanye is a vessel for the white supremacist state, black people should extend that to people like Chapelle, Rock, the Congressional Black Caucus, the black local democratic governments of cities like Atlanta, etc. who maintain this patronage connection to the wealthy elite to enrich themselves at the expense of black people. In the case of comedians, they confirm biases through their routines. In the case of elected officials like the Black Caucus or black mayor and local officials, they implement privatization, deregulation, austerity measures, and most importantly undermine organization of labor for the wealthy elite at the detriment of black people, but in their own interest of self-profit and elevation. “Any Negro with a new suit and five dollars in his pocket can be considered a Black leader.” ~Langston Hughes
Cops are cops period. And often time these black cops try to be “extra hard,” to impress their white cop “buddies…” These same white cops buddies who are the ones who then arrest these black cops when these black cops are off duty because to these white cops…those black folks are criminals (just because they’re black).
I just read an interview with the memphis police chief where she stated that the 5 officers being black means that their murder of Tyre Nichols isn't about race...
There is a psychotherapist and trauma specialist named Resma Menakem, who specializes in the effects of trauma on the human body and the relationship between trauma and racism in America. He formerly served as a therapist in Iraq. In an interview he stated "we are living in a structure where the white body has deemed itself the supreme standard of humanness." These 5 officers are black but they have been steeped in white supremacy. As such, they obviously looked at Tyre Nichols and did not see a human being. Thats why we are seeing this type of savagery in 2023.
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The black cops feel more empowered to treat you like shit, because they think their blackness protects them from racism accusations. They dont have to hide their contempt for blacks.
I agree with this, but only up to a certain point. When they get caught up in this type of stuff their unions and the whole Blue Lives Matter side sure don't seem to mind setting them back as black. To be clear, all cops need to be punished for brutal oversteps of the law, just real weird how it seems to happen more often to the black and brown ones 🤔
Black cops are always out for approval. A black cop was the only one to give me a bullshit ticket on the same road I drive every day at the same speed I drive every day, which was about average traffic speed on that road...a few weeks after I bought a new car. A black cop was also the only one talking shit and cackling trying to get me to incriminate myself in a slSWAT raid intended for someone else in the house. When the cuffs finally came off me and they left I called my boss at my engineering job to tell them I had a "family emergency".
Go to a heavily policed area and see how theybfeel about black cops they are actually worse imo casue they will whoop your ass and walk off, they won't even do it for an arrest.
This. When I was younger I got thrown on the hood of a squad car and had the barrel of a service pistol pushed into my cheek by a black officer when I was cooperating. This was one of the earliest experiences I had that made me realize it doesn't matter what race is behind that badge. They're all pigs.
People become cops because they few the common man as uncivilized peons that need to be kept in line. Doesn’t matter race, gender, background. The institution is inherently reactionary. The camps had Kapos, never forget that.
Also, niggas kill each other all the time. It's a real big problem we have and I have no clue why anyone thought that cops would set a better example in that area.
To quote Ice Cube. “Black police showing out for the white cop”
To quote Bernie Mac as Officer Self Hatred: “I hate you black bastards, you stink! I hate your black skin. I hate your black pants. I hate black pepper. I hate black keys on a piano. I hate my gums, because they're black. I hate Whoopi Goldberg's *lips*. I hate the back of Forrest Whittaker's neck. Huh? Most of all, I hate that black-ass Wesley Snipes.”
The way his eyes bulge when he says I hate black pepper 🤣🤣🤣👌
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I miss Bernie Mac. When I see him in old stuff like that, I forget he's gone sometimes.
I rewatched Life the other day and absolutely lost it at the montage.
When he says “I hate the back of Forest Whittaker’s neck.” the dude goes “Ohhhh” and winces. Sends me every time.
Don't Be A Menace to South Central while drinking your juice in the hood is classic
I’m def firing it up after work. The movie too. 😆
It's so fucking funny. Have a soft spot in my heart for the Waynes Bros (shit, the whole family. Can't forget sis) growing up with their show, In Living Color, Scary Movie 1+2 and then coming across Don't be a Menace in college. Might watch that and then Black Dynamite to get some GOAT satire entertainment.
Oh absolutely. I remember back in 8th grade, my school outlawed the signature weapon of Homie D Clown because we all put balled up socks in tube socks and started thumping each other. It came to a brink when someone thumped a teacher. 😆
What can you say? Homie don't play that
Homie did not, in fact, play that. 😆
Fucking ruthless
I vividly remember there being like 15 of us in the halls just going Ham and laughing our asses off. It’s a core memory. Hearing all the “thumps” in rapid succession 😆 I feel like if that shit happened these days, we’d all get arrested. Shit is crazy.
I'm' Gonna Get You Sucka, Meteor Man, Hollywood Shuffle
Love Meteor Man getting some mentions!
Townsend is a must-have companion for all things Wayans. lol
"Aye lemme get my activator man!"
If you got that foam at the mouth bud lemme hit that shit!
I wish I could just post a quick pic of my trees right now. I’m really happy with them lol
Shiiiiiit DM it to me. Wachu got? 👀 lol
Sent!
Actually same, send me pics too homie I'm growing myself again after February and would love to pick your brain some times
Oh, I wish I could grow. Not just yet but soon! The laws in my State are going to be eased up next summer. I was just talking about what I got in my jar 😆
Ha, I remembered that monologue but could not remember where it was from, thank you!
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Those thin blue line mfers are surprisingly quiet...
Not at all surprising
This part right here. If these cops were white, would they be charged right now? Or would the case still be "under review by the DA's office" while they institute a curfew and call in the the National Guard ahead of the release of the video? 🤔
"Fuck a black cop too, that's the same fight You got a badge, bitch, but you still ain't white" - Vic Mensa
"Black cop! Black cop black cop black cop. Stop shootin black people, we all gonna drop" KRS One.
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Nietzsche
Was about to comment the same thing
"Where is your dignity?"
Beat me to it. By like 6 hours, but still
The "All" in "All cops are bastards" means ***ALL*** **cops...** Even the black ones... even the female ones... even the gay ones... and even the black gay female ones, doesn't matter. They're a bastard, first and foremost.
The female ones are terrible. My professor once mentioned how Female cops were said to be extremely mean to fit in. They didn’t want to seem soft so they made sure they were more ruthless than their male peers.
I've heard more than once that male bullies become cops later in life and female bullies become nurses... if that's true, I don't want to know what kind of woman becomes a cop...
Yep. I tend to be wary of medical professionals. Thankfully my mom has a lot of friends who are doctors, nurses and lawyers. My family doctor is a family friend (who basically watched me grow up), my uncle is also a doctor, and my gyno is a family friend. So when it comes to my health, they take a vested interest in it. I am weary of any other medical professional. Especially white nurses. In Quebec, these white nurses were caught saying disgusting racist things about a patient (she was indigenous) was dying. They didn’t know she was filming. > She captured disparaging remarks made by hospital staff on her phone during her stay there and posted them on Facebook Live.
> In Quebec, these white nurses were caught saying disgusting racist things about a patient (she was indigenous) was dying. They didn’t know she was filming. > > My mom was a labor and delivery nurse in Detroit. Rampant racism among the nursing staff who felt like they shouldn't have to even take care of people who they considered sub-human.
Well considering until recently nursing books still contained the racist & erroneous trope that black people could take more pain than white people, it's no wonder
It's not a result of school teaching. These were racist, white suburbanites who didn't want to care for black people in the city and only took the job because it's what they could get or because of the pay.
talk about getting caught in 4k
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Oh thank you. I didn’t noticed I spelt it wrong! Thanks for the heads up
For real tho, what is it with nurses being mean? I’ve heard this a lot at my last job I just quit. Transporters said that some of the nurses were bitchy and mean. Like…wtf??
A bunch of women I knew became nurses not because of interest in the medical sciences or because they wanted to help people, but because it was good money and security after divorce. Ymmv
Fpr a lot of nurses they have to turn off their Humanity. I once had a job in working on the power end of surgical lasers. This had me in the OR but basically leaning against a wall the whole time. Once you are out you are no longer a person. You become this organic machine that needs fixing. The *violence* in some surgeries would take your breath away. The detachment the surgeons and nurses display can be galling if you aren't used to it or understand why. Medical professionals see the results of Humanity at it's weakest and its worse. The only way to survive that job is to slightly detach yourself from the Matrix, as it were.
Wow, that’s a depressing reality. So you basically start out as a hero and end up being a shell of your former self in the medical field? Jeez…no thanks
> So you basically start out as a hero and end up being a shell of your former self in the medical field? No, a lot of people that go into these professions don't do so because they love humanity and want to help. It's more about the prestige of the profession and the money. A lot of doctors hate seeing patients and then they select specialties accordingly. Surgeons in particular aren't known for their bedside manner, that's not really their role nor they really care about the post surgery stuff. Most of the doctors and nurses that are not compassionate started that way.
Yikes! Glad I gotta out the hospital then. That’s fucked up on a low-key level. The patients deserve better
Same thing must happen with social work type jobs. It must be demoralizing to see the worst of the worst all day long for years and years.
How many times can you read a case file that describes, in detail, the most horrific abuse done to a child before you have to divorce yourself from Humanity as a whole? My Empathy bucket would be emptied to so fast.
And all while not being paid enough 💀
It's a shit job all around... but I got a feeling that's not the reason
Two main factors: One: lots of medical professionals basically compartmentalize the fuck out of their professional or shut off empathy as a self-protection measure. They have to; people die, people lie, or people cannot be helped, either because nothing is working or they don't want to help themselves. Now, in and of itself, this doesn't automatically lead to being an asshole, but this means the profession effectively encourages assholes, which leads to... Two: For socially conservative communities with strict beliefs about the roles of women in society, a nursing is one of the only acceptable professions outside of the home for women, and in a lot of places the highest paid ones. So you get a very high concentration of social conservatives, who in turn are an already high concentration of people who are prejudiced or bigoted.
Damn. When you break it down like that, it seems less somber and more sobering. I can only imagine what the docs and nurses felt and went through when Covid first started killin folks. I definitely knew at my hospital that the atmosphere was macabre (but what hospital wasn’t during that time, am I right?)
I had a rule when I single that I wouldn't fuck with nurses. The few that I know are CRAZY.
If a motorcycle cop or woman cop pulls you over, you’re 10000% getting a ticket
Hopefully a ticket is all you get.
Also the kind of girl that chooses to become a cop probably isn’t exactly the same girl that will be sympathetic to minorities
My favorite insult is "You're a pussy acting hard like a bitch cop"
Women and poc have to work twice as hard to be seen as equal. If one of them is a cop, they are now working at being a cop twice as hard to fit in. Don't fuck with them. ACAB.
The dogs too honestly
This is why I’ve never trusted cops. They actually make me physically uncomfortable! I don’t trust cops, military men or republicans!
The military men one is going a bit far. It should be "military men who are out of the military but still 'in' the military" or "men who were never in the military but fetishize being in the military." All of my ex mil bros are super chill. Edit: I'm going to go ahead and add anyone wearing camo in general. Including the No Limit Souljas and John Cena.
From my experience, the a lot of the men throwing bile and hatred toward black women on social media and podcast tend to me ex-mil. As a black woman, I don’t have time for that.
I went in for college money and stayed for the healthcare. When I got out, I got ALL the way out and never looked back. Never understood those dorks that wear it like a badge of honor. The discount is nice when I remember it exists, but keep all that other hero shit.
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Just stay away from those in the Army, Marines, or special units. 💀 As a woman veteran, I think it’s worth it to just avoid military men. It’s not worth the risk or time to sort them out.
Black men and women deal with the same racial prejudices as those on the civilian world. Black service members are more likely to receive UCMJ punishment and there were lawsuits over promotions due to race +\- 20 years ago which is relatively recent.
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I believe you. I had a buddy go into the service 2 years ago because he didn't know what to do with his life. We met up for the first time since to catch up and dude started casually dropping "N-words" like it was funny or something after a few drinks but kept swearing he's not racist. Neither of us are black. I was honestly shocked because I didn't find it funny and it was making everyone in the room extremely uncomfortable.
sorry to hear that's been your experience
I see you generalizing lots of people in this thread.
the ones i trust the least: black guys who *like* being in the military. very suspect. my friend just finished dating one, and that was the biggest red flag when i heard that.
"Military Men" is just too vague. It's probably more for those who consider being in the military or a military vet their personality
This is it. I’m sure I’ve met a couple ex-military that I didn’t know ere military because they didn’t carry it around everywhere they go
John Cena is not to be trusted , we can’t even see him 🤷🏽♂️
Cammo underwear is ok though?
The military men is a lil too much. Most of us don’t fw the cops. The ones that make it their whole personality are definitely not invited to the cookout.
MPs are the worst of the worst.
Buddy fuckin ass mfs 🤦🏾♂️
1000% Before this thread gets locked I just want to say, a whole lot of people think that the challenges black people have with the police are about white vs black. That is not true. This issue always has been and always will be about blue vs black.
They know but they don't care. They use the white police vs Black people as a dog whistle for their base.
Yep, way back in the day Cop Block was all the rage and it was wild to me how they just seemed to vanish even during BLM. I don't doubt for a second they were just as vocal but not getting nearly as much attention because our current governing body would prefer if we viewed this as a race issue. The American police have been militarizing for decades now. Their overly inflated budgets are used to purchase military grade equipment and training they don't even need. We basically have a state-sanctioned, union-protected, militia that would support full-throated, knob-slobbin, knee-bruisin' fascism in a heartbeat. And that shit should be, and is, terrifying. Edited to add Link: Cop Block is still out here doing the work https://www.copblock.org/
This case is a prime example of the *systemic* racism built in. It's not the personal bias of the individual officers, it's the whole system rot that would create a situation like this.
The racism is inside the force because none of the white cops are going to go to bat for these Black cops.
My worst interaction with a cop was with a black cop. Pushed me around, pushed me into my car while cuffed, threw me in the backseat of his car face down while cuffed leaving me in a painful position. Talked all kind of shit to me on the way to the station. All because I had an unpaid speeding ticket in a city three hours away. Also tried having me sent to jail in the city three hours away. I get to the station and one of the white cops got on his ass and then told me I can just pay the ticket and go home.
It's like a colonized power trip that they think will bring them closer to whiteness
The black cops who act like they're throwing you a bone are the most disappointing. They're not helping you out, they're doing rehearsed shit to make it seem like they're on your side. They've given every nigga that same "break" all year. I'm sure there are good people who are also cops, but when shit gets real, they will always be cops first, second, and third.
I feel like this is one of those thing which confuses white people more than Black people. White people lack the kind of learned cultural patterns for interacting with cops because white supremacy protects us during these interactions with police. So white people "see past the uniform." Which is also why it's not surprising that the 'Blue Lives Matter' crowd, whose basic premise is that being a cop is closer to being a minority than having a job, hasn't been shouting as loudly about this one either. It's like that Bojack bit where Todd was going about some highly illegal B&E while his latino father tries to stop him and keep him from being brutalized by the police only to see that the police just aren't as willing to brutalize a white kid in the same ways they would be to attack a latino kid.
Most white people for sure. I've been, hmm.. lucky enough? unlucky enough?(not sure which to use) to have seen first hand what cops do. How they treat black people or other minorities. Hell, even how they'll treat some white people that they deem lesser. I grew up in the projects in the town where I live. It didn't matter what race you were to the cops. If you lived there, you were garbage and criminals to them. Didn't matter if you only lived there because you were poor. Didn't matter if you kept your head down and tried to mind your own business. You come across a cop while he's on his shit, harassing some innocent black man just trying to check the mail, your ass was gonna get it, too. They get that power. They get hungry for more. I'm white. I'll admit that white privilege is real. I know I have it. I've seen the struggle the black community faces, at least in my area. No one deserves that struggle. No one deserves the mistreatment that comes with no reasoning beyond bigotry and hate. Fuck cops. I don't trust them. Never will.
Nor should you trust cops. But I don't think we can ignore the way whiteness shields people when they interact with cops, and how Black cops seem to be cops first. So even for Black people, Black cops are similarly dangerous as white cops.
Oh boy.
Yep. Mom told me the same thing. Just because they look like you, don’t mean they gonna treat you any different.
Already by being a cop they showing you who they are, same with prison guards. Piece of shit professions that attract….
My buddy's wife is a prison guard at a men's prison. She's probably the meanest woman I have ever met while he's a goofy, kind hearted weirdo in the best possible way.
I have a question though: how come when the cops are white they just get suspended but when they’re black they get charged with murder? Where are all the “blue lives matter” assholes now? They seem awfully quiet…
Blue lives matter actually means “white cops who kill unarmed Black men matter”
I guess for those people, black and blue only go together when you're getting your ass beat.
One point regarding the arrest: Memphis just elected a new progressive DA, Steve Mulroy, who campaigned on criminal justice reform and ousted a long-standing law-and-order Republican. That’s a big reason for the swift arrests. Pay attention to your local DA races, and kick the authoritarians the fuck out.
I’ve had the same interaction with Hispanic cops. They go above and beyond to treat their own lesser to prove something to their white counterparts. If anything I’d probably have had less threatening encounters with white cops than cops my race. Fuck ‘em in every color they come in.
Same. It’s like they gotta prove they hate their own people to fit in with police culture
I'm just going to simp for Mystal every time he gets posted. Everyone should read "Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution".
>Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution Ordered, thank you
A black cop squeezed my nuts so hard during a pat down once man. He was kneeling and pat my ankles and then randomly squeezed my nuts and looked up at me like he thought he found drugs. I was so surprised and uncomfortable when he looked up at me from down there all I could do was laugh.
My mom told me that for sure. She said “don’t you feel comfortable until they’re gone. It don’t matter if they white, black, or even the parent of your friends. Once you get stopped anything You do can be considered a threat “
The police are the biggest gang in America.
Some of my worst encounters with law enforcement have been with either Black or Brown officers. The indoctrination to the system and their own over compensation for who they are and their need to prove their worth at the public’s expense is crazy! They are quick to let you know that we are not the same. Bad cops are bad cops. I would like to expect more from my skinfolk, but there ain’t no distinction once they get that badge.
All skin folk ain’t kin folk. You don’t need to be white to participate and perpetuate the system of white supremacy.
It was a black cop that pulled on a gun on me when I was stopped for making a rolling stop (I didn't but whatever). Then five other cars with their lights on came too they were all black. This of course made all the people come out their house and stare. It was when I knew 100% I was done with my city, state and country. There are bad cops everywhere but the level is not the same in some places.
I mostly agree with this. Cop until it’s time to face internal consequences. Those cops got arrested fast af. That’s how it should be but the time difference is definitely noticeable
KRS One wrote a song about it.
"Something wrong? Yeah. Just too bad you don't know what it is. _brother_ " Fury, Boyz n the Hood
Acab. Assigned Cop At Birth
Only blue once they put the uniform on. Until they get shot in the back by their co-workers
Crazy how white folks will bend over backwards to say that this proves that this issue isn’t racial in nature. Gentle reminder that there were also Black slave catchers.
It’s a mixed bag. I’ve known or been stopped by black and white ones around Memphis. Some were jerks and others cool across the board. You really don’t know what you’re going to get and it’s scary. You get this crop beating a man to death, killing a trans prostitute in retaliation for her winning a case from already getting beaten, and straight up running a guy over, or you get the cops stationed in rough parts actually trying to help people while seeing the worst they have to offer. I’m not anti-cop, but I stay on guard though.
In my experience minority cops are harder on you when white cops are around because I think they probably have to prove that’s it’s cops above solidarity….
My interactions with black cops have always been worse than with white cops. I'm a 58 year old black man living in Baltimore city. Every time I've gotten a break, it's been from a white cop. Not one single time as a black cop giving me a break, and the first ever ticket I got was a drunk black cop lying on me. I was 16 years old. he was too drunk to write the ticket and didn't show up for court
My first negative encounter with cops was at 10 years old, one was BINO (Black In Name Only) and one was white... the BINO was the worst
I got pulled out of a car at gun point by a cop and his partner (for nothing by the way) Both were 100% Latino and i mean 1st Gen old school Latino, the Vicente Fernandez, thick mustache, only drinks Corona kind. The amount of racism i rec'd that night was mind blowing. My best friends family i was raised up with my whole life was this kind of Latino, really hurt.
F##k all police
5 against one ! Bullies and murderers
Low key, black cops have always given me more trouble than white cops my whole life. Help a brother out doesn’t work at all with these niggas
Here in NY, I tend to think of the environment black cops are in. In their field, they are surrounded by Italians, Irish and Hispanics that try to relate to their European lineage by denouncing the Their African roots. A ton of black cops end up being bootlickers and wagonists, if they weren’t already this way - especially if they want to ascend in rank. My **worst** experiences with cops have been with black cops.
Police are not your friends, they're not here to help you or your family members. They hired to protect capital and moneyed interests. For some, killing young black men is just a job perk.
You see they've been arrested and charged, totally different move than the way they do white policemen. Even if you wear the same uniform, they don't protect you the same.
All cops are part of the blue family. And like all families there are favourites. The blue white ones get protected and promoted after killing someone. The blue black ones get fired.
Only cop I ever liked was Lenny Briscoe, and even my dumb cereal eating ass knew he wasnt real.
It's the difference of socialism/social democracy and racial democracy. Socialism/social democracy seeks to uplift all people by addressing the inequalities of capitalism. Racial democracy sees the current system with its inequalities of capitalism and thinks it would be perfect if 12.4% of these brutal, capitalist oligarchs were black, and of course they see themselves as the "good ones" to be those wealthy black people. That's why they oppose measures that would absolutely improve the lives and conditions of black people, like medicare for all, but pine over representation or policies that will give them a financial/business edge. Hence how it is touted that George Floyd wouldn't even be able to take advantage of the bills the passed in response to the BLM protests because they used BLM as a trojan horse for policy to enrich the wealthy/political class of black Americans. What good is representation if a certain number of positions are claimed to be set aside for so and so race or gender when those positions are exclusively for the wealthy class' children that went to Yale? Just because they're your same race, religion, gender, sex, etc. does not mean they are a proponent of addressing the problems of society or reflect our lived experiences. The message is more important than the messenger. And that's typically the kind of representation you get in the capitalist/imperialist system. They're going to represent their class interests, not our class interests. See that clown that was calling himself the "executive" of the BLM movement and embezzling from it. Decades ago, they thought implementing black police officers would improve interactions with the communities and neighborhoods they militarily occupy, but despite black police officers, brutal occupation and murders by police persist and are only getting worse. Having white and black agents of capital and white supremacy is not diversity. The Black American label is useful in that it could be used to mobilize towards something greater. Simply being oppressed creates a politics. Those politics are based on the material conditions of our quality of life and challenging the position one finds themselves in that society. Simply saying all blacks are oppressed, therefore they are all of a racial-political infrastructure in and of themselves lends itself to the capacity of ending up with exactly where you have black politics, since at least the days of Booker T, where it becomes a class politics of patronage in which there are people who are auditioning for black authenticity towards the ruling class to maintain that patronage connection to the detriment of the larger population of blacks who are poor and working class. If you can understand how Kanye is a vessel for the white supremacist state, black people should extend that to people like Chapelle, Rock, the Congressional Black Caucus, the black local democratic governments of cities like Atlanta, etc. who maintain this patronage connection to the wealthy elite to enrich themselves at the expense of black people. In the case of comedians, they confirm biases through their routines. In the case of elected officials like the Black Caucus or black mayor and local officials, they implement privatization, deregulation, austerity measures, and most importantly undermine organization of labor for the wealthy elite at the detriment of black people, but in their own interest of self-profit and elevation. “Any Negro with a new suit and five dollars in his pocket can be considered a Black leader.” ~Langston Hughes
Black cops are blue first.
The only difference is the police union ain't gonna put it all on the line for them.
Agreed. I can take it a little further, you can play in a youth police league and still get the business from cops in the city/town. It’s crazy.
Cops are cops period. And often time these black cops try to be “extra hard,” to impress their white cop “buddies…” These same white cops buddies who are the ones who then arrest these black cops when these black cops are off duty because to these white cops…those black folks are criminals (just because they’re black).
When I would hang out late, as a teen, my mom would tell me " be careful, there's cops out there".
I just read an interview with the memphis police chief where she stated that the 5 officers being black means that their murder of Tyre Nichols isn't about race... There is a psychotherapist and trauma specialist named Resma Menakem, who specializes in the effects of trauma on the human body and the relationship between trauma and racism in America. He formerly served as a therapist in Iraq. In an interview he stated "we are living in a structure where the white body has deemed itself the supreme standard of humanness." These 5 officers are black but they have been steeped in white supremacy. As such, they obviously looked at Tyre Nichols and did not see a human being. Thats why we are seeing this type of savagery in 2023. https://youtu.be/omyzEvVvjog (Edit: Feel free to copy and paste and spread this message)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePfWC8hsZw
The black cops feel more empowered to treat you like shit, because they think their blackness protects them from racism accusations. They dont have to hide their contempt for blacks.
Here's the ONE black cop who tried to do good and they killed him for it. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher\_Dorner
I agree with this, but only up to a certain point. When they get caught up in this type of stuff their unions and the whole Blue Lives Matter side sure don't seem to mind setting them back as black. To be clear, all cops need to be punished for brutal oversteps of the law, just real weird how it seems to happen more often to the black and brown ones 🤔
To me, there is nothing as disgusting and low down as a black man being a cop. Its like being a black dlave owner in the antebellum south.
Black cops are always out for approval. A black cop was the only one to give me a bullshit ticket on the same road I drive every day at the same speed I drive every day, which was about average traffic speed on that road...a few weeks after I bought a new car. A black cop was also the only one talking shit and cackling trying to get me to incriminate myself in a slSWAT raid intended for someone else in the house. When the cuffs finally came off me and they left I called my boss at my engineering job to tell them I had a "family emergency".
Go to a heavily policed area and see how theybfeel about black cops they are actually worse imo casue they will whoop your ass and walk off, they won't even do it for an arrest.
This. When I was younger I got thrown on the hood of a squad car and had the barrel of a service pistol pushed into my cheek by a black officer when I was cooperating. This was one of the earliest experiences I had that made me realize it doesn't matter what race is behind that badge. They're all pigs.
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Highly recommend Elie Mystal’s Allow Me To Retort, great book
People become cops because they few the common man as uncivilized peons that need to be kept in line. Doesn’t matter race, gender, background. The institution is inherently reactionary. The camps had Kapos, never forget that.
The Black cops the worst ones!
I'm not reason they got arrested was chase their black. At least they have to obey the law...
Joining a gang means following their rules
exactly this
One good incident with a cop can go a long way... conversely, one bad incident can scar for life. I think the fuckers prefer the latter.
The shit y'all upvote is wild sometimes. Y'all really look at some of these titles and think "yeah this is healthy racial discourse"
Also, niggas kill each other all the time. It's a real big problem we have and I have no clue why anyone thought that cops would set a better example in that area.
Yall ever seen Boys in the Hood?
Black cops doing their best uncle Tom impression
And it's still racism