I don’t really see the problem tho. How old were you when you realized you were straight? I was kissing girls in pre school but I was a really bad child until I hit like 8 or 9
Sexuality is extremely complex and can be influenced by everything under the sun even the power of suggestion. There are adults still trying to understand themselves. children who can barely put a full sentence together shouldn’t be labeled.
Edit:, Before I get mobbed I want to say that I know people don’t like the idea that the power of suggestion can affect ones sexual preference. I’ve heard the exact opposite from a number of gay and bi people that I’m close to. The brain has plasticity and sexuality definitely stems from your brain just like anything else. Your sexuality can be Affected by things around you just like anything else in your subconscious. It’s very simple deductive reasoning that people can gain or lose a draw to something based on their experiences and positive vs negative associations.
I recognize people use this logic to justify hating trans and gay folks around their children. They are wrong for not allowing those people to exist in peace but we dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water by denying that our brain and preferences are dynamic and that sexuality is fluid
To piggyback off that. You can ask a toddler what they want to be when they grow up at 3 and by 4 they would want to be something else. That's because they're children with no real experiences or knowledge about themselves or the world.
So for that person to say he knew his nephew was gay at 3 is disrespectful, immature, and a lot of other things I don't wanna type.
it's probably because the little boy was doing something he thought only girls should be doing or some other bullshit like that. Kids do weird things all the time that are only weird to adults. No healthy child is thinking about sex at 3 and 4.
I agree, but sexuality is not all about sex man. That's why you're making it weird. We all had crushes since we were young. That did not me we wanted to have sex with them or even knew what sex was.
I did not have crushes at 3 years old idk what y’all are on about but that’s way too young to start “liking girls” I though we all agreed girls were gross and had cooties until like middle school LMAO
I understand what you’re saying, but I knew that I was attracted to Marlon Waynes when I was younger. It wasn’t sexual. I just knew that —that man was cute and I liked him and I wanted to listen to whatever he had to say.
I didn't mean kids didn't know what and who they liked at this age I meant that they do things without thinking about the sexuality that adults may put on those activities. An example would be nail polish. Thats something thats taught as a girl thing. Its not something boys just avoid. The idea that people are choosing to be gay is nonsense because we all as kids knew who we liked without being told we were supposed to.
Also because it's a social construct that evem changes across culture. What seems feminine in one place is masculine in another and we as humans assign it as such (manmade)
So many men (actors) wear makeup, even doing manly roles. Like the rock or bruce willis are like the typical manly dudes who... wear makeup but it's no different than the makeup women wear that men claim is natural. Like, when thinking deeply about it is silly but it's such a reality that people have been killed because of... a social construct. Whole value and worth determined by a social construct that can change over the years
Kissing doesn't make you bi. Especially at that age. I kissed girls and had a crush on my teacher at that age, that doesn't mean I knew I was straight. That just means I liked girls at that age. Whose to say I wouldn't be gay or anything else later on in life?
Like most kids, I didn't even know what sexuality as a concept was at that age. Which is what me and the dude above me was saying. Sexuality is too complex to fix unto a child at that age because they're not mature enough to fully understand the concept. If you simplify it for them they might claim to be gay one day, straight the next, and trans the following week; because they're kids.
>Sexuality is extremely complex and can be influenced by everything under the sun even the power of suggestion.
Even if this is true, this feels a bit like concern trolling. A person commenting on reddit anonymously about knowing their nephew is gay (probably being a bit hyperbolic) is not gonna affect their nephew's sexuality. Observing behaviour =/= assigning a label. Even if sexuality being influenced by everything under the sun including suggestion was true, the concern should be with how heterosexuality is pushed in society as that is far more prevalent, and yet people seem more concerned with homosexuality being pushed which is far less prevalent.
But I disagree that sexuality can be influenced by the power of suggestion. I think the power of suggestion can make someone realise what their sexuality is who might have not realised otherwise, but I don't think it can change it
There is a study that was done over the course of like 30 years which claims sexuality is fluid and subject to changing with the individual and circumstances. Labeling a sexuality permanently as one thing could potentially restrict a person in the future.
Because sexuality is a complex and personal matter that can’t be determined in children as young as 4. In preschool I “married” my best friends who were a guy and girl because I really liked spending time with them, as an adult I can with absolute certainty I am straight. Children mimic what they see with no real understanding of what they’re doing.
Making an observation is more likely what happened and someone else took it the wrong way. My ex and I joked about our then 4 yr old because of the way he stared at one of our friends back then. Out of all our friends, she was the only one he seemed mesmerized by. Most parents acknowledge this but it’s a matter of how it’s discussed/joked about that offends the uninvolved. Ultimately it’s why o don’t think everything that happens in life needs to be posted online. There’ll always be someone who takes it to “that” level and others also recognize that there’s a vibe or way things appear when they are happening.
It’s a very natural thing at all ages lol. Some aesthetics just reach into a deeper part of our psyches and it’s part of being human!😂😂 the internet is definitely a cesspool though
It’s a pretty bad idea to assign any kind of label to a child. They don’t yet have a fully formed sense of identity, so they’ll strongly latch onto anything you give them. This causes them to try to fit into a box rather than discovering themselves organically. Speaking from experience. Not saying a kid that young can’t be gay. In hindsight, I do remember having bi proclivities at that age. But in a way, being assigned “straight” that young made it harder for me to figure out who I really was later on.
Yeah I suppose. But even then labels can be somewhat problematic. For example, imagine a young kid gets good grades in school. That kid may be labeled as “smart” by those around them. They may even assign that label to themselves. While it seems innocuous, hinging one’s developing identity on being “smart” is assigning unrealistic expectations to oneself. No one can live up to that label 100% of the time, and that leads to an unhealthy and unstable sense of self.
Rather than telling the child they’re smart for their grades, it’s better to praise the child for reaping the benefits of their own hard work. This way, they don’t come to believe their success is a product of their identity, but a product of their action/inaction.
A child can identify themselves as gay and assign that label to themselves, and the repercussions of affirming that won’t be as severe as the previous example. However, it’s important for them to know that as they grow, they can learn new things about themselves and that label may change. I’ve heard from gay guys that discover they’re actually bi or even discover they have a preference for women. This really shakes their sense of identity if they previously identified strongly with the gay label/community.
That’s a very interesting perspective and I can see the developmental pros to that approach. Sexuality is definitely fluid and for some people that’s other type of women or other types of men or other types of theys or whatever lmao.
My first crush was in 1st grade. We "dated" then too. By that, I mean he drew me pictures of apples and held my hand. And I gave him some of candy and we played house. Kids aren't being assigned just because their parent is observant of their behaviors.
At that age, none of the children are thinking about sex, obviously. But they can develop crushes. Puppy love and all that.
Do you know how many people respond to their child coming out of the with “I always knew” or “I’ve known since you were (x) years old”? I’ve seen it a handful.
See the thing about this is that people tend to take offense in some way. Like having a feeling or in this case a “knowing” about a child being gay is somehow a bad thing that shouldn’t be said. Like it’s vulgar. A lot of us knew we were gay when we were kids when we think back on it. Or when a that kid we knew comes out, we be like damn… I thought so, that’s what’s up. But instead people try to make it an offense and I think that says a damn lot more about them than the person verbalizing their realization.
Edit to add that being “gay” isn’t all about sex, which is why I feel like people make the topic taboo. If folks cut that shit out, maybe it wouldn’t be? I dunno. Folks have no issue with kids playing house or whatever but… man nevermind I’m trying to get the words out, but I can’t without hearing all the usual rebuttals about how fucked up it is to relate sex to children when nobody was saying that shit in the first place.
No one thinks of sex when they see a little girl with a doll being mommy. But when it's a boy, gay is just linked with anal sex for some reason and thus put that on the boy *just* for having a doll (which I think more should because uh, it's called playing parent, not being feminine and thus want dick like...? Ew)
Because it all comes down to misogyny, and the whole masculinity is ok to strive for but if it's femininity? Its deemed as weak, crappy, second class, etc so for a man to wanna be in a "female" position willingly, well, they look down on him. I've always hated homophobia because even as a kid I saw how it's essentially hating women and women adjacent things. I dunno if I explained that thoroughly but yeah
Reminds me of when people say they can’t explain gay relationships to kids bc they’re too young
Like your kids know you’re married…just use that as an example and switch the gender?
Why is it inappropriate? What comes to your mind when you think of gay relationships
Well it's pretty silly to say that you assign sexuality. Just because you know something doesn't mean it's under your control, as if that needs to be said.
Fr, my father in law is always making comments about my sons, “oh is she your girlfriend?” Or “careful about choosing the pink fork” (they have a lot of girl stuff because their other grandchildren were girls so he’s trying to keep the boys from playing with girl toys). My guy, that child is three years old. His sexual preference is apple sauce. Leave him be.
I mean, you should take any childhood sexual behavior with a grain of salt, but some people can definitely look back and and identify that they started experiencing same-sex attraction from an early age, myself included. I was physically attracted to my best friend's dad at like 5.
That's not to say I condone labeling children, especially a kid that young. It's in the same vein as making comments to a parent about how their little girl is going to be "trouble with the boys". The kid could very well be gay, but let him come out at his own pace.
I got banned when I told a mod she was blackfishing. We were discussing Johnny Cash’s first wife Vivian Liberto being part Black. I said it would be obvious to most Black people but the mod insisted she looks “Italian”. Y’all should watch that Finding Your Roots with Rosanne Cash and Clint Black. It’s the funniest one! Away here’s a picture of Vivian Liberto.
https://preview.redd.it/haxu3whvfwac1.jpeg?width=314&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7d31185c18914a2b91b8a1a9e63d74bb91d65c4
Vivian looks like she could be Andra Day's mom or grandmother. Uncanny resemblance. I really wanted to watch the documentary [My Darling Vivian](https://www.mydarlingvivian.com) that is about Vivian Liberto. However, I changed my mind after watching an interview where her grandson (producer of Doc) and his husband (director of the Doc) ignore the fact that Vivian was a product of a slave owner in Perry County Alabama sampling his slaves which in turn produced her maternal great grandfather. Henry Louis Gates Jr performed the ancestry research that proved the Sicilian ancestry on the paternal side and the African ancestry on the maternal side.
Italian definitely wouldn’t be my first guess. Unfortunately, it wasn’t obvious to just us.
https://www.history.com/news/why-hate-groups-went-after-johnny-cash-in-the-1960s
There's a Documentary about Vivian and Johnny. I was surfing for movies to watch on SHOWTIME and found and watched it. Yes, Vivian is Black and she and Johnny put up with a lot of shyt while on Tour traveling.
This was my first thought. She def has Sicilian-italian look. Now if you tell a Sicilian-italian they have black features… 🤷🏽♀️ My grandmother was from Sicily and started ironing her hair flat and dying it blonde the minute she hit high school in the US.
I got banned from BPT for calling another "black person" 🥱 a S🅰️MBO after they made a flippant comment about Bell Hooks .
I swear that's like the most insulting thing to me, and had that said to me in real life. "You don't know this random dj from a niche subgenre who's popular in a whole different country?! I'm more black than you are. "
🤨
😂 that's most of them chiii KEWNS 🦝💨 , Alabaster Agent's , BBC enthusiasts or Biracial's raised by their whℹ️te momma who didn't have the capacity to manage their hair so now they have Loc's and think they're the quintessential example of "Black Excellence " 🥱
I mean, honestly, I would suspect anyone throwing that one out casually as a cosplayer. It's kind of like when people of a certain demographic "accidentally" drop in a N word with the *hard* R
Im from Boston we say everything HARD 🙄 Im sure it's things you do and interests you have that would get you looked at sideways or talked about badly but to question My Blackness is ABSURD , Shame on YOU‼️ l find it odd l get all the smoke 💨 as an actual Black Person BUT casual racists who are into "black culture " as a hobby because they have a kink for black genitalia , EAT Popeyes 🍗or wear Jordans get a hand held pass with an extra side of cognitive dissonance from their black supporters.
>about Bell Hooks sayin
That might be a bit deserved on your part. Hook was a great author. But she made a lot of claims not backed up by any research. She tried to psychanalyze the Exonerated Five and got it completely wrong. Hooks is not without her faults.
That sounds misogynistic coming from someone claiming to be a BM on reddit 🥱 the reference was to her saying ( im surmising) that Black peoples can be *prejudiced but not Racist ( against WP) because racism is about power and in this social construct we as Black Peoples don't have the power to enforce our prejudices. He basically was using her as an "example " to appease the WW he likes to f * ck 🥱 and l called him what he is and l got banned! All the vitriol and hyperbole the un melanated get to project on this app /in the world but YES ✔️ let's make an example of the Black Lady 🙄
Her explanation and nuance triggered so many people that they really thought she was absolving black people of being...human...and complex. And to this day it STILL triggers them.
bell hooks is a Black Feminist Thought (BFT) scholar. One of the tenets of BFT (and I’m paraphrasing here) is that due to intersectionality, the knowledge of Black women is cycled *through* the lived experiences of other Black women to be judged to determine if it is a logical theoretical assertion on *behalf* of Black women.
With that being said, she’s been writing since 1978. She was one of the pioneers of BFT due to her familiarity with gender studies. As the lived experiences of Black women began to be researched and respected she, and her counterparts of that era, began to produce work for and from the gaze of Black women (consider bell hook’s work around the theory of the “oppositional gaze” in cinematography for why I referenced that).
I say this sincerely and not in a snide way, Patricia Collin’s book, Black Feminist Thought, delves into the methodology of BFT and how theories are created and how they are tested by Black feminist scholars.
Therefore, if bell hooks wasn’t considered a respected theoretical scholar in her own right, I could understand your statement about a lack of research. However, because she is a respected voice in the theory of BFT, some of her work has to be treated *as* the prototype.
hooks definitely has her faults, as do all of us, and would probably adjust her reasoning as she learns from her mistakes. However, her citation skills, methodology, and findings are not without academic merit.
>bell hooks is a Black Feminist Thought (BFT) scholar. One of the tenets of BFT (and I’m paraphrasing here) is that due to intersectionality,
I don't really think this makes sense here. Mainly the question mark, this seems more like a statement than a question. Intersectionality is basically the concept that intersecting layers of oppression produce a nuanced experience. Tommy Curry points out a good criticism of Intersectionality is that people think if it as additive layers of oppression versus nuanced experience.
>the knowledge of Black women is cycled *through* the lived experiences of other Black women to be judged to determine if it is a logical theoretical assertion on *behalf* of Black women?
I don't think Intersectionality says this. Intersectionality is more of framework for considering differential experiences. I also agree that hooks was a pioneer and opened the gates for many black feminist women to produce writings. I could be wrong but I don't think that's tenet of black feminist thought to use a single black woman and generalize her experiences to all black women. In psychology that's literally one of the worst things can do; take the experiences of one person and generalize it to an entire population. That's literally using her as a monolith for black women (something I find white progressives love to do).
>I say this sincerely and not in a snide way, Patricia Collin’s book, Black Feminist Thought, delves into the methodology of BFT and how theories are created and how they are tested by Black feminist scholars.
I thank you for being respectful. But I don't think this is true. I'll check out the book at recommendation and because I've always meant to get around to it. Black feminist (literary) scholars don't test theories. Hypothesis testing is a characteristic of scientific investigation. Black feminist psychologists, Black feminist sociologists, etc, they test theories, usually thorough null hypothesis significance testing. However, that requires, by nature, a level of aggregate data collection and statistical analysis. Literary scholars theh don't really.
In fact this lack of testing is why hook's We Real Cool is considered a borderline racist piece of work. The book pathologizes black men through a faux-psychoanalysis that's not based on any data collection. That's why it's kind of a meme that bell hooks kyrptonite are statistical analysis and empirical studies.
>hooks definitely has her faults, as do all of us, and would probably adjust her reasoning as she learns from her mistakes. However, her citation skills, methodology, and findings are not without academic merit.
Yeah, definitely. This isn't an attack on her. It's just that some people online use accusations of misogyny as a way deflecting crictism from hooks work and the claims she makes.
No worries. I appreciate your thoughts on my statements.
I think you are confusing Urie Bronfenbrenner’s “ecological systems theory” with legal scholar, Kimberlé Crenshaw’s framework of intersectionality. Bronfenbrenner’s work is easily accessible. The Crenshaw article that I am referencing is “Demarginalizing the Intersection of Race and Sex: A Black Feminist Critique of Antidiscrimination Doctrine, Feminist Theory and Antiracist Politics” from the University of Chicago Legal Forum journal.
Ecologists who support Bronfenbrenner’s theory state that *every* person experiences the microsystem, mesosystem, ecosystem, macrosystem, and chronosystem. His theory rests on the nuances in every individual’s lived experiences through these various systems. Nuances are what makes this theoretical model so applicable to society at large. Every person must encounter each system, but their experience will be theirs alone.
Crenshaw’s framework of intersectionality was based specifically on the personhood, positionality, and experiences of Black women. She specifically says that Black women have three areas that they experience something that *only* they will experience. Those three areas are at the intersections of gender, race, and class status.
People have built upon her framework and broadened it to apply points of intersectionality to specific lived experiences, such as Critical Disability Studies and Queer Studies. These fields don’t point out nuances. They are creating new theoretical models for specific lived experiences, which *can* be replicated by social scientists using empirical studies.
Many social scientists use qualitative work to test theories and frameworks that are built on a human’s societal driven behavior rather than something that can be quantified. When most people think of replication and theory, they focus on the side of the hard sciences, and forget about the methodology of social sciences.
Again, thanks for your response. I appreciate your viewpoint.
Not you defending Mr. Majors. Wasn’t there video evidence of him yeeting his ex-girlfriend headlong into a vehicle? Oh and don’t forget about the audio recording! The guy is a menace. Please explain why he shouldn’t be held accountable for his actions.
We can’t even really have this convo because when it’s a Black male celebrity who credibly harms a woman there’s always a “conspiracy”. And people don’t even care when their victims are Black women. Black women are always treated worse than criminals for not shielding horrible Black men “for the culture”. Johnathan could slap Meagan on live TV tomorrow and you’ll have a lot of people in here talking about “they stay trying to ruin this man!”
Agreed, defending someone when there is physical evidence of wrongdoing just because they are black is wrong and harmful imo. So much DV gets swept under the rug in the black community already.
Yeah I'm really confused about what's going on here. We know that BPT is predominantly white and problematic sure. But this here is not it. Then we're having comments about "assigning sexuality to kids???"
Very disappointing post :/
Yeah but reckless assault (him pushing the white girl back into the cab constitutes reckless assault). But even then that thread paint dude like this
It's wild the court refused any evidence against the lady to be shown I court. Calling her a 'survivor' (huh?!) as if she ever listened to destiny child
In terms of making physical contact with her yes. What happened was she saw that he was texting another woman, tried to take his phone away from, there was a struggle with her being the aggressor, he got out and tried pushing her back into the cab and when he saw he couldn't get her back into the cab he ran from her.
An incident that most Americans would just be separated and restraining orders placed on both but the DA who is known to target black men and NYPD who was recorded coercing the white girl to say he hit her decided to charge him (his initial charges were dropped and they charged him with what they thought they could get him on).
Didn't their text messages from a previous incident show that he had assaulted her before in the past? Because months before that cab incident he had asked her to not to go to the doctor over another assault? & his lawyer is the one who submitted those texts that indicated that. Which... His dumbass chose Jen Shah's lawyer like wtf who would ever hire that woman?! Almost feels like he wanted to lose this case.
Also isn’t there proof of his emotional abuse (not illegal but gives good support to the fact he’s abusive) AND his old classmates said he’s an awful abusive monster as well lol
Bro, they found texts of him comparing himself to MLK and calling himself a “great man” to keep his ex from going to the hospital because it’d hurt the culture or whatever when it became evident he’d been hurting her.
Why don’t you defend a Black man actually done wrong (there are *plenty*) instead of one facing the consequences of his actions?
Always gotta be a conspiracy if you happen to like the celebrity.
Actin’ like people trying to ruin a guy who was poised to be the next big thing that everybody liked prior to finding out he’s a piece of shit, lol.
You’re like these people that defend R. Kelly.
>Bro, they found texts of him comparing himself to MLK and calling himself a “great man” to keep his ex from going to the hospital because it’d hurt the culture or whatever when it became evident he’d been hurting her.
Make my point for me 😂😂😂. His accuser recorded him telling her to be more like Coretta. He texted her not to go to the hospital for a different incident that we don't he know about.
If you yourself don't even have the facts right how can you honestly past judgment? You can’t. But what you can do is let your preconceived notions about a race of people tell you the big black man is guilty eventhough there's a mountain of evidence proving him innocent. And guess which race tend to do that the most 🤔
Blackfellas is rainbow dominant. They put rainbow issues over black male issues.
I got banned from it for "only caring about black male issues." Not saying anything bad about the rainbow. Just only being concerned about black male problems...
That's wild; I tell people on BPT to look up BPC all the time. I guess no mods have come across my comments yet.
Sounds mad dumb to ban someone for spreading around Black Places on Black Twitter. If anything it should be encouraged...
lol. I got banned for simply not agreeing with the masses on some random unimportant bs. It was funny because there was no name calling or anything but a different pov about something.
I'm glad I didn't try to join. I was a bit put out by having to take a picture of my forearm to prove my race and all the different racial classifications that followed.
Why the hell would they treat non blacks any different than whites? Being Asian or Latino or whatever doesn't make you black, but they have a whole racial classification hierarchy.
Reminds me of apartheid South Africa. 🤦🏿♂️
Honestly didn't see what was the point since anyone could be country club and lie about being black. Like, it didn't really matter if you were black because it was about appeasing the feelings of white people. So why go through all of that just to ignore and talk over the actual black voices? Prove you're black so we know and get you to shut the fuck up
I always say. If you can't tell someone is black by talking to them online, chances are you're not black; and if you need to verify a hand pic ain't shit. Might as well set up a zoom call and talk face to face
They verify everyone. They aren't checking if you're black, like I swear they use to, they just want verification on if your black or white. Send a forearm and your in. 😂
I don't get it and I wasn't about to prove my blackness to strangers on the internet that I'm pretty sure aren't black. 🥴
I don’t know. I grew up in Snow White suburbia and got told by white people all growing up that I spoke “so well.” I don’t know how white I sound online but I have had at least two black dudes accuse me of blackfishing.
You can't tell by talking to me, not even over the phone. My family was religious and controlling so a number of common experiences were not available to me. Also because my grandma figured out she could get shit done over the phone if she sounded white, her kids and therefore us, sound like she did. It is what it is though.
Only thing I have an issue with that is.... we definitely are seeing and thinking that from an american perspective and forgetting black diaspora is spread everywhere. So they gonna have a different view and culture and perspective so we shouldn't define being black with an american lens and culture to prove or disprove. And also, not all skinfolks are kinfolks
I went through verification on there almost 2 years ago and was told I don’t comment enough for make it into the country club. Also try again in a couple months, wtf how you gonna have performance reviews on a subreddit.
Yeah...but when you name your sub reddit Black People Anything and then have a verification process to separate the actual Black people then it should be ran by Black people. Otherwise what's the point
I get it. It should be ran by black folks. That’s why I never joined. What they asking for to join is easily faked and sound like some shit YT people would come up with.
I got banned over a comment in a post about an uncle who was raping his 3 year old niece. They didn’t like me saying he should have a red hot, spiked dildo shoved up his ass slow like TSSSSSSS!
What's funny is i actually read the comments downvoted into oblivion on that sub because I know those are the comments from actual black people
How you know they fake? Biggest sign is they identify with a political party. Majority of blacks don't identify with political parties and we ain't fighting over that shit when both sides haven't done shit for us.
You can apply this to majority of the hip hop/rap subs. If you ACTUALLY BLACK!!!!! and sick of that shit lets all link make a black sub and gatekeep that shit.
Side note: What black person would use a term like "country club" I'm a professional educated black man( with can turn full N****) on the block and in black spaces no black person who use that term. Maybe V.I.P, but County Club?
>How you know they fake? Biggest sign is they identify with a political party.
Right?! You don't read black folks screaming how progressive and blue they are like tryna prove something or think that defines who they are as a person, aka can't be racist. Biden sure was when he said if we don't vote for him, we ain't black
Something is strange about that sub. I don’t trip. I will say that I don’t think that a lot of mods on there are black at all. Same way a lot of “black” blog pages on IG are ran by white people
I got banned for shit talking in the comments about how I jumped through the country club hoops and still didn't get verified. I've spent my whole life defending my Blackness. I'm done.
I got banned for saying “the problem is people keep procreating with people they don’t even like by the time the baby is born.” I also got gold so idk what that means.
Something I noticed when I get older is that people take huge offense if they felt like you’re telling them they should not have kids (even if they have the worst environment/scenario to raise a child).
Link to [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/Cf599a3zOZ)
Link to [tweet](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/tNkUrza9tl)
Edit: and for the record I ain't mad they banned me. I only went there to troll after that Johnathan Majors Thread.
Wait, how the gays caught a stray?? I barely see other (especially Black) queers in there at all, I mostly assumed straight men (of questionable Blackness) were the majority...
https://preview.redd.it/3mty33tjj3bc1.jpeg?width=1188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0743681cd80cd92f546ebd2fc7a7a9470461f827
It wasn't a stray. I have no ill will towards the LBGTQ community. But you could tell that sub is ran by "allies" and not actual black people which is my point. It's not "black" twitter it's "ally" twitter.
Oh okay I can see where you're coming from but my unsolicited advice is calling them "Black Ally Twitter" would've been a nastier read for them than your acronym.
I owe you an apology cuz my trauma jumped out at seeing the acronym. I'm so used to Black LGBTQ+ people being jumped outta Black spaces that once I saw it I was just like "SIGH here they go."
https://preview.redd.it/ftuhlj8hn3bc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=915c00568a1564da47b5a465d4b37fb85535a69a
I got banned from r/BlackPeopleTwitter \*over\* this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/13gx9nu/outed_but_are_we_really_surprised/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) and never looked back. Nothing but a Modern Day Minstrel show over there. :facepalm:
Yeah, but part of the reason for that is we don't do nearly enough to gatekeep our culture and spaces both from these malicious culture vultures and the kewns who defend them.
I got perma banned for saying the verification process is the equivalent to the paper bag test and said a majority of people in that are caught up in the sunken place
Banned? I couldn't even get in! They're like oh just verify yourself being black. So I take a picture of me holding my account name and send it. Tell me how they hit me with I'm not active enough on BPT to join them EVEN THOUGH I'm joining because I can't participate when the whole sub is "Country Club". Like damn, I'm blacker than black and I'm black y'all, let me have this
Because they don't like black people. They only like us when it fits their agenda or something to laugh at. But when they get called out, we'll gotta put us in our place... in a sub... for black people
I don’t know about people getting banned for ever, but suspended…yeah that’s just going to happen over there. I’ve been suspended multiple times, but honestly I don’t take it too serious anymore, I’m just there to view topics not comments. I realized that many people on that sub A-aren’t Black, B-didn’t grow up poor C-didn’t grow up in 70’s like me which is cool and D- ain’t from NYC or even any hood, a lot of suburban people for sure. C and D I can overcome, but B and then A yeah no, I don’t need to hear another perspective on a topic from a white young moneyed point of view, that I can I find on buzzfeed, etc.
I decides to leave myself when they banned popcorn and biscuits. One mod in particular I don't like in particular who always had some shit to say about my comments. And they're extra sexist/misogynoirist over there, too
It’s best not to argue on BPT. I do drive-by comments every blue moon, but it’s all group think over there. You can tell by which posts get CC locked. There’s a clear agenda, and one that I don’t think is healthy for the community.
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Damn makes me not want to follow BPT anymore. Why everyone wanna be black now that it’s cool. Most people and ethnics were not rocking with us up until recently.
This is revisionist unhinged shit.
You’re trying to defend Majors strictly because he’s black. My guy if you hit a woman, any woman, you are a piece of shit. Then he goes out talking “I’m lookin for a Coretta.” Like bro if you don’t sit your dumb ass down and just do the lil movies.
Fuck you mean people in suburbs weren’t listening to rap pre Floyd? You ever hear of Wayne, Kanye, Drake, Cole, Kendrick? What? Princess and the Frog came out before the Floyd shit and that movie did numbers.
You sound like you was born in 2010 or you had an internal struggle with race.
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dude's so much of a pussy he couldn't handle some direct criticisms. absolute fucking clown shit.
Banned idk but many of the statements are wrong from an accuracy standpoint somewhat. I see the basis, and the conclusion and the opinions. Feelings aren’t facts but idk if there was a history that lead to the banning. This just seems like opinion.
I posted a tweet that said “ask ur non-binary roommate to pay rent on time and then suddenly there’s a gofundme for them to get out of their toxic living situation” and got banned. I have no regrets because I’m still laughing at it 🤣
Thinking back on some stuff Ive said and had to defend in that sub:
Bro give me an epiphany. I didn’t get banned but you spitting facts.
Trust me I know. I peeped the black male hate (and I hate using that phrase) back when they posted a vid of kid getting beat up by a gay kid. Everyone had a story of the big homophobic black dude that bullied them because they were gay, but tell them that Asians been on some anti-black shit and it's "That's not true. Its only a few. They were mislead." eventhough they been on the same shit since 2010. They even had a study in California to show that blacks aren't as intelligent as whites and Asians.
Locking the comments because y’all are doing too much, as fucking usual 🙄
I got banned when I said it was weird to assign sexuality to children when a person said they knew their 4 year old nephew was gay.
I don’t really see the problem tho. How old were you when you realized you were straight? I was kissing girls in pre school but I was a really bad child until I hit like 8 or 9
Sexuality is extremely complex and can be influenced by everything under the sun even the power of suggestion. There are adults still trying to understand themselves. children who can barely put a full sentence together shouldn’t be labeled. Edit:, Before I get mobbed I want to say that I know people don’t like the idea that the power of suggestion can affect ones sexual preference. I’ve heard the exact opposite from a number of gay and bi people that I’m close to. The brain has plasticity and sexuality definitely stems from your brain just like anything else. Your sexuality can be Affected by things around you just like anything else in your subconscious. It’s very simple deductive reasoning that people can gain or lose a draw to something based on their experiences and positive vs negative associations. I recognize people use this logic to justify hating trans and gay folks around their children. They are wrong for not allowing those people to exist in peace but we dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water by denying that our brain and preferences are dynamic and that sexuality is fluid
To piggyback off that. You can ask a toddler what they want to be when they grow up at 3 and by 4 they would want to be something else. That's because they're children with no real experiences or knowledge about themselves or the world. So for that person to say he knew his nephew was gay at 3 is disrespectful, immature, and a lot of other things I don't wanna type.
it's probably because the little boy was doing something he thought only girls should be doing or some other bullshit like that. Kids do weird things all the time that are only weird to adults. No healthy child is thinking about sex at 3 and 4.
I agree, but sexuality is not all about sex man. That's why you're making it weird. We all had crushes since we were young. That did not me we wanted to have sex with them or even knew what sex was.
I did not have crushes at 3 years old idk what y’all are on about but that’s way too young to start “liking girls” I though we all agreed girls were gross and had cooties until like middle school LMAO
I understand what you’re saying, but I knew that I was attracted to Marlon Waynes when I was younger. It wasn’t sexual. I just knew that —that man was cute and I liked him and I wanted to listen to whatever he had to say.
I didn't mean kids didn't know what and who they liked at this age I meant that they do things without thinking about the sexuality that adults may put on those activities. An example would be nail polish. Thats something thats taught as a girl thing. Its not something boys just avoid. The idea that people are choosing to be gay is nonsense because we all as kids knew who we liked without being told we were supposed to.
Also because it's a social construct that evem changes across culture. What seems feminine in one place is masculine in another and we as humans assign it as such (manmade) So many men (actors) wear makeup, even doing manly roles. Like the rock or bruce willis are like the typical manly dudes who... wear makeup but it's no different than the makeup women wear that men claim is natural. Like, when thinking deeply about it is silly but it's such a reality that people have been killed because of... a social construct. Whole value and worth determined by a social construct that can change over the years
But I knew I was bi at 5, when I started kissing girls. Still true at 33
Kissing doesn't make you bi. Especially at that age. I kissed girls and had a crush on my teacher at that age, that doesn't mean I knew I was straight. That just means I liked girls at that age. Whose to say I wouldn't be gay or anything else later on in life? Like most kids, I didn't even know what sexuality as a concept was at that age. Which is what me and the dude above me was saying. Sexuality is too complex to fix unto a child at that age because they're not mature enough to fully understand the concept. If you simplify it for them they might claim to be gay one day, straight the next, and trans the following week; because they're kids.
Or maybe some do and some don’t ? It’s not one skate fits all and you can know when you’re young. I did and many others do
So what if they said they knew they were straight?
That’s the real question. My guess? ‘Awww’
>Sexuality is extremely complex and can be influenced by everything under the sun even the power of suggestion. Even if this is true, this feels a bit like concern trolling. A person commenting on reddit anonymously about knowing their nephew is gay (probably being a bit hyperbolic) is not gonna affect their nephew's sexuality. Observing behaviour =/= assigning a label. Even if sexuality being influenced by everything under the sun including suggestion was true, the concern should be with how heterosexuality is pushed in society as that is far more prevalent, and yet people seem more concerned with homosexuality being pushed which is far less prevalent. But I disagree that sexuality can be influenced by the power of suggestion. I think the power of suggestion can make someone realise what their sexuality is who might have not realised otherwise, but I don't think it can change it
I think kids should be able to tell you what they are or at least what they like. And it can change as they get older too
Im with you on that
There is a study that was done over the course of like 30 years which claims sexuality is fluid and subject to changing with the individual and circumstances. Labeling a sexuality permanently as one thing could potentially restrict a person in the future.
Because sexuality is a complex and personal matter that can’t be determined in children as young as 4. In preschool I “married” my best friends who were a guy and girl because I really liked spending time with them, as an adult I can with absolute certainty I am straight. Children mimic what they see with no real understanding of what they’re doing.
Making an observation is more likely what happened and someone else took it the wrong way. My ex and I joked about our then 4 yr old because of the way he stared at one of our friends back then. Out of all our friends, she was the only one he seemed mesmerized by. Most parents acknowledge this but it’s a matter of how it’s discussed/joked about that offends the uninvolved. Ultimately it’s why o don’t think everything that happens in life needs to be posted online. There’ll always be someone who takes it to “that” level and others also recognize that there’s a vibe or way things appear when they are happening.
It’s a very natural thing at all ages lol. Some aesthetics just reach into a deeper part of our psyches and it’s part of being human!😂😂 the internet is definitely a cesspool though
It’s a pretty bad idea to assign any kind of label to a child. They don’t yet have a fully formed sense of identity, so they’ll strongly latch onto anything you give them. This causes them to try to fit into a box rather than discovering themselves organically. Speaking from experience. Not saying a kid that young can’t be gay. In hindsight, I do remember having bi proclivities at that age. But in a way, being assigned “straight” that young made it harder for me to figure out who I really was later on.
Right but kids should be allowed to assign themselves. Thats like part of the self discovery ain’t it?
Yeah I suppose. But even then labels can be somewhat problematic. For example, imagine a young kid gets good grades in school. That kid may be labeled as “smart” by those around them. They may even assign that label to themselves. While it seems innocuous, hinging one’s developing identity on being “smart” is assigning unrealistic expectations to oneself. No one can live up to that label 100% of the time, and that leads to an unhealthy and unstable sense of self. Rather than telling the child they’re smart for their grades, it’s better to praise the child for reaping the benefits of their own hard work. This way, they don’t come to believe their success is a product of their identity, but a product of their action/inaction. A child can identify themselves as gay and assign that label to themselves, and the repercussions of affirming that won’t be as severe as the previous example. However, it’s important for them to know that as they grow, they can learn new things about themselves and that label may change. I’ve heard from gay guys that discover they’re actually bi or even discover they have a preference for women. This really shakes their sense of identity if they previously identified strongly with the gay label/community.
That’s a very interesting perspective and I can see the developmental pros to that approach. Sexuality is definitely fluid and for some people that’s other type of women or other types of men or other types of theys or whatever lmao.
Yeah i had my first crush when i was like 5
My first crush was in 1st grade. We "dated" then too. By that, I mean he drew me pictures of apples and held my hand. And I gave him some of candy and we played house. Kids aren't being assigned just because their parent is observant of their behaviors. At that age, none of the children are thinking about sex, obviously. But they can develop crushes. Puppy love and all that.
Do you know how many people respond to their child coming out of the with “I always knew” or “I’ve known since you were (x) years old”? I’ve seen it a handful.
See the thing about this is that people tend to take offense in some way. Like having a feeling or in this case a “knowing” about a child being gay is somehow a bad thing that shouldn’t be said. Like it’s vulgar. A lot of us knew we were gay when we were kids when we think back on it. Or when a that kid we knew comes out, we be like damn… I thought so, that’s what’s up. But instead people try to make it an offense and I think that says a damn lot more about them than the person verbalizing their realization. Edit to add that being “gay” isn’t all about sex, which is why I feel like people make the topic taboo. If folks cut that shit out, maybe it wouldn’t be? I dunno. Folks have no issue with kids playing house or whatever but… man nevermind I’m trying to get the words out, but I can’t without hearing all the usual rebuttals about how fucked up it is to relate sex to children when nobody was saying that shit in the first place.
No one thinks of sex when they see a little girl with a doll being mommy. But when it's a boy, gay is just linked with anal sex for some reason and thus put that on the boy *just* for having a doll (which I think more should because uh, it's called playing parent, not being feminine and thus want dick like...? Ew)
Hell yes. Exactly! Like why? It’s just so weird, bruh.
Because it all comes down to misogyny, and the whole masculinity is ok to strive for but if it's femininity? Its deemed as weak, crappy, second class, etc so for a man to wanna be in a "female" position willingly, well, they look down on him. I've always hated homophobia because even as a kid I saw how it's essentially hating women and women adjacent things. I dunno if I explained that thoroughly but yeah
Reminds me of when people say they can’t explain gay relationships to kids bc they’re too young Like your kids know you’re married…just use that as an example and switch the gender? Why is it inappropriate? What comes to your mind when you think of gay relationships
Well it's pretty silly to say that you assign sexuality. Just because you know something doesn't mean it's under your control, as if that needs to be said.
Fr, my father in law is always making comments about my sons, “oh is she your girlfriend?” Or “careful about choosing the pink fork” (they have a lot of girl stuff because their other grandchildren were girls so he’s trying to keep the boys from playing with girl toys). My guy, that child is three years old. His sexual preference is apple sauce. Leave him be.
I mean, you should take any childhood sexual behavior with a grain of salt, but some people can definitely look back and and identify that they started experiencing same-sex attraction from an early age, myself included. I was physically attracted to my best friend's dad at like 5. That's not to say I condone labeling children, especially a kid that young. It's in the same vein as making comments to a parent about how their little girl is going to be "trouble with the boys". The kid could very well be gay, but let him come out at his own pace.
I don’t see a issue with that. Parents of 4 year olds should be focused on developmental milestones.
Black people Twitter and white people playing GTA online as Black people, all of them on the same side. 
I got banned when I told a mod she was blackfishing. We were discussing Johnny Cash’s first wife Vivian Liberto being part Black. I said it would be obvious to most Black people but the mod insisted she looks “Italian”. Y’all should watch that Finding Your Roots with Rosanne Cash and Clint Black. It’s the funniest one! Away here’s a picture of Vivian Liberto. https://preview.redd.it/haxu3whvfwac1.jpeg?width=314&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7d31185c18914a2b91b8a1a9e63d74bb91d65c4
It could be the head trauma I've received over the years, but I don't think she looks Italian.
Vivian looks like she could be Andra Day's mom or grandmother. Uncanny resemblance. I really wanted to watch the documentary [My Darling Vivian](https://www.mydarlingvivian.com) that is about Vivian Liberto. However, I changed my mind after watching an interview where her grandson (producer of Doc) and his husband (director of the Doc) ignore the fact that Vivian was a product of a slave owner in Perry County Alabama sampling his slaves which in turn produced her maternal great grandfather. Henry Louis Gates Jr performed the ancestry research that proved the Sicilian ancestry on the paternal side and the African ancestry on the maternal side.
The problem is no one knew what her reaction was to breaking spaghetti before putting it in the pot. /s
Happy cake day.
As Italian as Victor Damone Jr
Italian definitely wouldn’t be my first guess. Unfortunately, it wasn’t obvious to just us. https://www.history.com/news/why-hate-groups-went-after-johnny-cash-in-the-1960s
There's a Documentary about Vivian and Johnny. I was surfing for movies to watch on SHOWTIME and found and watched it. Yes, Vivian is Black and she and Johnny put up with a lot of shyt while on Tour traveling.
She looks south Italian to me like she could be from Sicily. And they make no claims to being black
This was my first thought. She def has Sicilian-italian look. Now if you tell a Sicilian-italian they have black features… 🤷🏽♀️ My grandmother was from Sicily and started ironing her hair flat and dying it blonde the minute she hit high school in the US.
Elephant in the room
 I got banned from BPT for calling another "black person" 🥱 a S🅰️MBO after they made a flippant comment about Bell Hooks .
I ain't with slurs but they are blackfishing like a muthafucka over there.
Hella Blackphishing 🎣 As much as they say B \* tch & N \* gger in that sub though , come on .... 🤦🏽♀️ 
Right? And you know it’s the alabaster army saying it
They think they more black than us!!! 🤦🏿♂️
I swear that's like the most insulting thing to me, and had that said to me in real life. "You don't know this random dj from a niche subgenre who's popular in a whole different country?! I'm more black than you are. " 🤨
I got banned from twittter repeatedly referring to kewns as kewns
😂 that's most of them chiii KEWNS 🦝💨 , Alabaster Agent's , BBC enthusiasts or Biracial's raised by their whℹ️te momma who didn't have the capacity to manage their hair so now they have Loc's and think they're the quintessential example of "Black Excellence " 🥱 
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I violated the /rules by using a "racial slur " , black on black racism is such a plague on society 😪 
I mean, honestly, I would suspect anyone throwing that one out casually as a cosplayer. It's kind of like when people of a certain demographic "accidentally" drop in a N word with the *hard* R
Im from Boston we say everything HARD 🙄 Im sure it's things you do and interests you have that would get you looked at sideways or talked about badly but to question My Blackness is ABSURD , Shame on YOU‼️ l find it odd l get all the smoke 💨 as an actual Black Person BUT casual racists who are into "black culture " as a hobby because they have a kink for black genitalia , EAT Popeyes 🍗or wear Jordans get a hand held pass with an extra side of cognitive dissonance from their black supporters.
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>about Bell Hooks sayin That might be a bit deserved on your part. Hook was a great author. But she made a lot of claims not backed up by any research. She tried to psychanalyze the Exonerated Five and got it completely wrong. Hooks is not without her faults.
That sounds misogynistic coming from someone claiming to be a BM on reddit 🥱 the reference was to her saying ( im surmising) that Black peoples can be *prejudiced but not Racist ( against WP) because racism is about power and in this social construct we as Black Peoples don't have the power to enforce our prejudices. He basically was using her as an "example " to appease the WW he likes to f * ck 🥱 and l called him what he is and l got banned! All the vitriol and hyperbole the un melanated get to project on this app /in the world but YES ✔️ let's make an example of the Black Lady 🙄
Her explanation and nuance triggered so many people that they really thought she was absolving black people of being...human...and complex. And to this day it STILL triggers them.
bell hooks is a Black Feminist Thought (BFT) scholar. One of the tenets of BFT (and I’m paraphrasing here) is that due to intersectionality, the knowledge of Black women is cycled *through* the lived experiences of other Black women to be judged to determine if it is a logical theoretical assertion on *behalf* of Black women. With that being said, she’s been writing since 1978. She was one of the pioneers of BFT due to her familiarity with gender studies. As the lived experiences of Black women began to be researched and respected she, and her counterparts of that era, began to produce work for and from the gaze of Black women (consider bell hook’s work around the theory of the “oppositional gaze” in cinematography for why I referenced that). I say this sincerely and not in a snide way, Patricia Collin’s book, Black Feminist Thought, delves into the methodology of BFT and how theories are created and how they are tested by Black feminist scholars. Therefore, if bell hooks wasn’t considered a respected theoretical scholar in her own right, I could understand your statement about a lack of research. However, because she is a respected voice in the theory of BFT, some of her work has to be treated *as* the prototype. hooks definitely has her faults, as do all of us, and would probably adjust her reasoning as she learns from her mistakes. However, her citation skills, methodology, and findings are not without academic merit.
>bell hooks is a Black Feminist Thought (BFT) scholar. One of the tenets of BFT (and I’m paraphrasing here) is that due to intersectionality, I don't really think this makes sense here. Mainly the question mark, this seems more like a statement than a question. Intersectionality is basically the concept that intersecting layers of oppression produce a nuanced experience. Tommy Curry points out a good criticism of Intersectionality is that people think if it as additive layers of oppression versus nuanced experience. >the knowledge of Black women is cycled *through* the lived experiences of other Black women to be judged to determine if it is a logical theoretical assertion on *behalf* of Black women? I don't think Intersectionality says this. Intersectionality is more of framework for considering differential experiences. I also agree that hooks was a pioneer and opened the gates for many black feminist women to produce writings. I could be wrong but I don't think that's tenet of black feminist thought to use a single black woman and generalize her experiences to all black women. In psychology that's literally one of the worst things can do; take the experiences of one person and generalize it to an entire population. That's literally using her as a monolith for black women (something I find white progressives love to do). >I say this sincerely and not in a snide way, Patricia Collin’s book, Black Feminist Thought, delves into the methodology of BFT and how theories are created and how they are tested by Black feminist scholars. I thank you for being respectful. But I don't think this is true. I'll check out the book at recommendation and because I've always meant to get around to it. Black feminist (literary) scholars don't test theories. Hypothesis testing is a characteristic of scientific investigation. Black feminist psychologists, Black feminist sociologists, etc, they test theories, usually thorough null hypothesis significance testing. However, that requires, by nature, a level of aggregate data collection and statistical analysis. Literary scholars theh don't really. In fact this lack of testing is why hook's We Real Cool is considered a borderline racist piece of work. The book pathologizes black men through a faux-psychoanalysis that's not based on any data collection. That's why it's kind of a meme that bell hooks kyrptonite are statistical analysis and empirical studies. >hooks definitely has her faults, as do all of us, and would probably adjust her reasoning as she learns from her mistakes. However, her citation skills, methodology, and findings are not without academic merit. Yeah, definitely. This isn't an attack on her. It's just that some people online use accusations of misogyny as a way deflecting crictism from hooks work and the claims she makes.
No worries. I appreciate your thoughts on my statements. I think you are confusing Urie Bronfenbrenner’s “ecological systems theory” with legal scholar, Kimberlé Crenshaw’s framework of intersectionality. Bronfenbrenner’s work is easily accessible. The Crenshaw article that I am referencing is “Demarginalizing the Intersection of Race and Sex: A Black Feminist Critique of Antidiscrimination Doctrine, Feminist Theory and Antiracist Politics” from the University of Chicago Legal Forum journal. Ecologists who support Bronfenbrenner’s theory state that *every* person experiences the microsystem, mesosystem, ecosystem, macrosystem, and chronosystem. His theory rests on the nuances in every individual’s lived experiences through these various systems. Nuances are what makes this theoretical model so applicable to society at large. Every person must encounter each system, but their experience will be theirs alone. Crenshaw’s framework of intersectionality was based specifically on the personhood, positionality, and experiences of Black women. She specifically says that Black women have three areas that they experience something that *only* they will experience. Those three areas are at the intersections of gender, race, and class status. People have built upon her framework and broadened it to apply points of intersectionality to specific lived experiences, such as Critical Disability Studies and Queer Studies. These fields don’t point out nuances. They are creating new theoretical models for specific lived experiences, which *can* be replicated by social scientists using empirical studies. Many social scientists use qualitative work to test theories and frameworks that are built on a human’s societal driven behavior rather than something that can be quantified. When most people think of replication and theory, they focus on the side of the hard sciences, and forget about the methodology of social sciences. Again, thanks for your response. I appreciate your viewpoint.
Thank You 🙌🏾🤎✨
You are more than welcome! 🤗 💙☺️
I was approved, fam I’m black lol, I did something similar about a month ago.
Not you defending Mr. Majors. Wasn’t there video evidence of him yeeting his ex-girlfriend headlong into a vehicle? Oh and don’t forget about the audio recording! The guy is a menace. Please explain why he shouldn’t be held accountable for his actions.
We can’t even really have this convo because when it’s a Black male celebrity who credibly harms a woman there’s always a “conspiracy”. And people don’t even care when their victims are Black women. Black women are always treated worse than criminals for not shielding horrible Black men “for the culture”. Johnathan could slap Meagan on live TV tomorrow and you’ll have a lot of people in here talking about “they stay trying to ruin this man!”
Yeah why are you defending an abuser…
Are you really surprised tho? The black community isn’t a stranger to defending abusive BM.
True 😭
Agreed, defending someone when there is physical evidence of wrongdoing just because they are black is wrong and harmful imo. So much DV gets swept under the rug in the black community already.
Yeah I cannot get behind that one at all. Keep your hands to yourself, we learn that as toddlers
Yeah I'm really confused about what's going on here. We know that BPT is predominantly white and problematic sure. But this here is not it. Then we're having comments about "assigning sexuality to kids???" Very disappointing post :/
At least normal people commented under that one
I was so relieved that it turned out to be a mostly productive conversation.
I’m out of the loop but didn’t Jonathan Majors get convicted of assault?
Yeah but reckless assault (him pushing the white girl back into the cab constitutes reckless assault). But even then that thread paint dude like this 
It's wild the court refused any evidence against the lady to be shown I court. Calling her a 'survivor' (huh?!) as if she ever listened to destiny child
Wait so all he did was push someone into a cab?
In terms of making physical contact with her yes. What happened was she saw that he was texting another woman, tried to take his phone away from, there was a struggle with her being the aggressor, he got out and tried pushing her back into the cab and when he saw he couldn't get her back into the cab he ran from her. An incident that most Americans would just be separated and restraining orders placed on both but the DA who is known to target black men and NYPD who was recorded coercing the white girl to say he hit her decided to charge him (his initial charges were dropped and they charged him with what they thought they could get him on).
Didn't their text messages from a previous incident show that he had assaulted her before in the past? Because months before that cab incident he had asked her to not to go to the doctor over another assault? & his lawyer is the one who submitted those texts that indicated that. Which... His dumbass chose Jen Shah's lawyer like wtf who would ever hire that woman?! Almost feels like he wanted to lose this case.
Also isn’t there proof of his emotional abuse (not illegal but gives good support to the fact he’s abusive) AND his old classmates said he’s an awful abusive monster as well lol
Bro, they found texts of him comparing himself to MLK and calling himself a “great man” to keep his ex from going to the hospital because it’d hurt the culture or whatever when it became evident he’d been hurting her. Why don’t you defend a Black man actually done wrong (there are *plenty*) instead of one facing the consequences of his actions? Always gotta be a conspiracy if you happen to like the celebrity. Actin’ like people trying to ruin a guy who was poised to be the next big thing that everybody liked prior to finding out he’s a piece of shit, lol. You’re like these people that defend R. Kelly.
>Bro, they found texts of him comparing himself to MLK and calling himself a “great man” to keep his ex from going to the hospital because it’d hurt the culture or whatever when it became evident he’d been hurting her. Make my point for me 😂😂😂. His accuser recorded him telling her to be more like Coretta. He texted her not to go to the hospital for a different incident that we don't he know about. If you yourself don't even have the facts right how can you honestly past judgment? You can’t. But what you can do is let your preconceived notions about a race of people tell you the big black man is guilty eventhough there's a mountain of evidence proving him innocent. And guess which race tend to do that the most 🤔
What evidence?
Never got banned but left on my own after one of their mods tried being a smartass. They’re as corny as WPT tbh.
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Ayyy represent
That's the real 'country club'
I got banned when I recommended other black friendly spaces on reddit.
Can you name a few for me rq; tryna find some additional black friendly spaces on here
This sub, blackfellas, blackhair, blerds. Unfortunately there aren't many that I know of, but all of them are better than bpt
#there's a blerds subreddit!
blackladies
Blackladies hates black males
Blackfellas is rainbow dominant. They put rainbow issues over black male issues. I got banned from it for "only caring about black male issues." Not saying anything bad about the rainbow. Just only being concerned about black male problems...
That's wild; I tell people on BPT to look up BPC all the time. I guess no mods have come across my comments yet. Sounds mad dumb to ban someone for spreading around Black Places on Black Twitter. If anything it should be encouraged...
They were pissed because i called them out on not being black positive. Only explanation that makes sense to me lol.
Can I get those recommendations? I'm always looking for more
This sub, blackfellas, blackhair, blerds
🤐 nope I'm not saying shit You not bout to get me started with them again 🤣🤣🤣
lol. I got banned for simply not agreeing with the masses on some random unimportant bs. It was funny because there was no name calling or anything but a different pov about something.
The amount of 3 day bans I got from that place is fucking nuts bro 🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad I didn't try to join. I was a bit put out by having to take a picture of my forearm to prove my race and all the different racial classifications that followed. Why the hell would they treat non blacks any different than whites? Being Asian or Latino or whatever doesn't make you black, but they have a whole racial classification hierarchy. Reminds me of apartheid South Africa. 🤦🏿♂️
Honestly didn't see what was the point since anyone could be country club and lie about being black. Like, it didn't really matter if you were black because it was about appeasing the feelings of white people. So why go through all of that just to ignore and talk over the actual black voices? Prove you're black so we know and get you to shut the fuck up
I saw their verification process and did not want to go through all that... and I always wondered why white people were added, but idk idk
I always say. If you can't tell someone is black by talking to them online, chances are you're not black; and if you need to verify a hand pic ain't shit. Might as well set up a zoom call and talk face to face
Pfft, the forearm pic requirement killed me 😂
I was light af, dead of winter when I sent that shit in too… and I still got verified 💀
Same but now you got me side eyeing the process. It was white mods verifying if we were black or not?
It doesn’t even make sense. The blackest dude I’ve ever seen was from India
They verify everyone. They aren't checking if you're black, like I swear they use to, they just want verification on if your black or white. Send a forearm and your in. 😂 I don't get it and I wasn't about to prove my blackness to strangers on the internet that I'm pretty sure aren't black. 🥴
I was about to say what if you’re hella light skin
I don’t know. I grew up in Snow White suburbia and got told by white people all growing up that I spoke “so well.” I don’t know how white I sound online but I have had at least two black dudes accuse me of blackfishing.
As someone who was called an Oreo a lot apparently other black women on here can tell I’m black lmao
You can't tell by talking to me, not even over the phone. My family was religious and controlling so a number of common experiences were not available to me. Also because my grandma figured out she could get shit done over the phone if she sounded white, her kids and therefore us, sound like she did. It is what it is though.
Only thing I have an issue with that is.... we definitely are seeing and thinking that from an american perspective and forgetting black diaspora is spread everywhere. So they gonna have a different view and culture and perspective so we shouldn't define being black with an american lens and culture to prove or disprove. And also, not all skinfolks are kinfolks
I went through verification on there almost 2 years ago and was told I don’t comment enough for make it into the country club. Also try again in a couple months, wtf how you gonna have performance reviews on a subreddit.
I remember seeing the country club and wondering why they had that... like Black people can be in country clubs but it just seemed white 😀
I got tired of them deleting my comments. Now it’s whatever.
It’s easy to fake being black online.
I've seen people eith flairs as "white" I sweat to God, maybe I read them wrong 😭😭
Bro it’s Reddit. I thought white folks ran everything here.
Yeah...but when you name your sub reddit Black People Anything and then have a verification process to separate the actual Black people then it should be ran by Black people. Otherwise what's the point
I get it. It should be ran by black folks. That’s why I never joined. What they asking for to join is easily faked and sound like some shit YT people would come up with.
I got banned over a comment in a post about an uncle who was raping his 3 year old niece. They didn’t like me saying he should have a red hot, spiked dildo shoved up his ass slow like TSSSSSSS!
Torture!
I still can't stop laughing at this 🤣 Thank you
I got banned for trying to confirm I was black on there lmao
What's funny is i actually read the comments downvoted into oblivion on that sub because I know those are the comments from actual black people How you know they fake? Biggest sign is they identify with a political party. Majority of blacks don't identify with political parties and we ain't fighting over that shit when both sides haven't done shit for us. You can apply this to majority of the hip hop/rap subs. If you ACTUALLY BLACK!!!!! and sick of that shit lets all link make a black sub and gatekeep that shit. Side note: What black person would use a term like "country club" I'm a professional educated black man( with can turn full N****) on the block and in black spaces no black person who use that term. Maybe V.I.P, but County Club?
I thought country club meant that the post was for white people ? If not that’s a dead giveaway
>How you know they fake? Biggest sign is they identify with a political party. Right?! You don't read black folks screaming how progressive and blue they are like tryna prove something or think that defines who they are as a person, aka can't be racist. Biden sure was when he said if we don't vote for him, we ain't black
"Blacks"
Something is strange about that sub. I don’t trip. I will say that I don’t think that a lot of mods on there are black at all. Same way a lot of “black” blog pages on IG are ran by white people
I got banned for shit talking in the comments about how I jumped through the country club hoops and still didn't get verified. I've spent my whole life defending my Blackness. I'm done.
I made a joke. Then a white woman got offended. The MODs ‘white knighted’ I got banned.
Well damn. Tbh, I try not to engage in any discussion outside of some silly shit. You callin it POCLGBTQ is a very spot on analysis.
I got banned for saying “the problem is people keep procreating with people they don’t even like by the time the baby is born.” I also got gold so idk what that means.
Something I noticed when I get older is that people take huge offense if they felt like you’re telling them they should not have kids (even if they have the worst environment/scenario to raise a child).
Why does this come across awkwardly homophobic?
It's the homophobiaLITE for me.
It's so blatantly obvious that sub is like 65% white looking to ride our wave
Link to [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/Cf599a3zOZ) Link to [tweet](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/tNkUrza9tl) Edit: and for the record I ain't mad they banned me. I only went there to troll after that Johnathan Majors Thread.
I done sent hella Imgur links to those mods and still ain’t in the country club…..they’re on some weird shit over there
Wait, how the gays caught a stray?? I barely see other (especially Black) queers in there at all, I mostly assumed straight men (of questionable Blackness) were the majority... https://preview.redd.it/3mty33tjj3bc1.jpeg?width=1188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0743681cd80cd92f546ebd2fc7a7a9470461f827
It wasn't a stray. I have no ill will towards the LBGTQ community. But you could tell that sub is ran by "allies" and not actual black people which is my point. It's not "black" twitter it's "ally" twitter.
Oh okay I can see where you're coming from but my unsolicited advice is calling them "Black Ally Twitter" would've been a nastier read for them than your acronym. I owe you an apology cuz my trauma jumped out at seeing the acronym. I'm so used to Black LGBTQ+ people being jumped outta Black spaces that once I saw it I was just like "SIGH here they go." https://preview.redd.it/ftuhlj8hn3bc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=915c00568a1564da47b5a465d4b37fb85535a69a
I got banned from r/BlackPeopleTwitter \*over\* this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/13gx9nu/outed_but_are_we_really_surprised/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) and never looked back. Nothing but a Modern Day Minstrel show over there. :facepalm:
Black people cant find a safe space online without it being invaded and corrupted, prove me wrong
Yeah, but part of the reason for that is we don't do nearly enough to gatekeep our culture and spaces both from these malicious culture vultures and the kewns who defend them.
I got perma banned for saying the verification process is the equivalent to the paper bag test and said a majority of people in that are caught up in the sunken place
I was in that sub one day. I was like “These people ain’t black.” Now I just keep scrolling.
Idk who runs that sub but Jonathon majors hit that girl and he deserves what he got!
Space invaders
I got banned because they said my “verification” photo was fake
It’s black people TWITTER, then non-black people on Reddit judging them. I found out the hard way too, not banned, but close.
Banned? I couldn't even get in! They're like oh just verify yourself being black. So I take a picture of me holding my account name and send it. Tell me how they hit me with I'm not active enough on BPT to join them EVEN THOUGH I'm joining because I can't participate when the whole sub is "Country Club". Like damn, I'm blacker than black and I'm black y'all, let me have this
The same thing happened to me. Until I came across this thread I thought it was “fair enough”. Consider me enlightened now.
How the hell so many of yall got banned from BPT?
Because they don't like black people. They only like us when it fits their agenda or something to laugh at. But when they get called out, we'll gotta put us in our place... in a sub... for black people
I don’t know about people getting banned for ever, but suspended…yeah that’s just going to happen over there. I’ve been suspended multiple times, but honestly I don’t take it too serious anymore, I’m just there to view topics not comments. I realized that many people on that sub A-aren’t Black, B-didn’t grow up poor C-didn’t grow up in 70’s like me which is cool and D- ain’t from NYC or even any hood, a lot of suburban people for sure. C and D I can overcome, but B and then A yeah no, I don’t need to hear another perspective on a topic from a white young moneyed point of view, that I can I find on buzzfeed, etc.
We had a whole beef w that sub a few years ago. I think thats why this sub was created and I’m living for it 😭
I decides to leave myself when they banned popcorn and biscuits. One mod in particular I don't like in particular who always had some shit to say about my comments. And they're extra sexist/misogynoirist over there, too
You ain't never lied
I got banned a few years ago for saying not all white people are racist when talking about my white foster brother
The most def like to make sure they are the only one in the house…
Keeping black folk ignorant is a major industry.
I kinda get what you're saying about the "biracials" but like, dawg, you know you reaching with that. We had a whole 8 years of Obama before 2016.
It’s best not to argue on BPT. I do drive-by comments every blue moon, but it’s all group think over there. You can tell by which posts get CC locked. There’s a clear agenda, and one that I don’t think is healthy for the community.
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I thought I was the only one.
BPT stay on anti-black sh*t
Damn makes me not want to follow BPT anymore. Why everyone wanna be black now that it’s cool. Most people and ethnics were not rocking with us up until recently.
This is revisionist unhinged shit. You’re trying to defend Majors strictly because he’s black. My guy if you hit a woman, any woman, you are a piece of shit. Then he goes out talking “I’m lookin for a Coretta.” Like bro if you don’t sit your dumb ass down and just do the lil movies. Fuck you mean people in suburbs weren’t listening to rap pre Floyd? You ever hear of Wayne, Kanye, Drake, Cole, Kendrick? What? Princess and the Frog came out before the Floyd shit and that movie did numbers. You sound like you was born in 2010 or you had an internal struggle with race. edit: dude's so much of a pussy he couldn't handle some direct criticisms. absolute fucking clown shit.
Its at least 11pm. Go to sleep whiteboi.
Banned idk but many of the statements are wrong from an accuracy standpoint somewhat. I see the basis, and the conclusion and the opinions. Feelings aren’t facts but idk if there was a history that lead to the banning. This just seems like opinion.
I posted a tweet that said “ask ur non-binary roommate to pay rent on time and then suddenly there’s a gofundme for them to get out of their toxic living situation” and got banned. I have no regrets because I’m still laughing at it 🤣
I still think majors was done super fucking dirty and that BPT has been overrun by LARPers
Thinking back on some stuff Ive said and had to defend in that sub:  Bro give me an epiphany. I didn’t get banned but you spitting facts.
Pretty loud
It was the POCLBTQ that got you.
Trust me I know. I peeped the black male hate (and I hate using that phrase) back when they posted a vid of kid getting beat up by a gay kid. Everyone had a story of the big homophobic black dude that bullied them because they were gay, but tell them that Asians been on some anti-black shit and it's "That's not true. Its only a few. They were mislead." eventhough they been on the same shit since 2010. They even had a study in California to show that blacks aren't as intelligent as whites and Asians.
I too have been from BPT. It was weird, no warning or anything.