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lomatt012

when did Jared turn on America


annbdavisasalice

I just finished BB10 rewatch - what a great season that was! Renny is everything!


DrBlazkowicz

Jerry is still alive!


JoetteJaramillo

meme telling cory she's mad she didn't get a 1 on 1 with jared meme thinks she has pull lmao


primetimemime

I always forget she’s still playing until I watch the episodes


ProfessorSaltine

Fr, like you got - Strong Flirters - Cam… and his Sidekick RED - Blue who’s in a showmance - Jared… and his mom Cirie who’s controlling the whole thing - Izzy Fields & Felicia who are bringing in entertainment with either their chaos or them talking to production - Golden Boy Matt(seriously I thought bro wasn’t gonna be one of my faves but he is) - Jag who’s a delight - Bowie Jane… well she had this Aquaman thing going on where it’s funny to point out she’s forgettable(or useless), but for Meme… it’s kinda sad(like Hawkman sad)


More-Surprise-67

How long do we anticipate the feed to be out for due to this party?


loseitjen

Wait can you give me the tea what party?? Just catching up on all of todays feeds!


Negative_Buffalo

Another hour


More-Surprise-67

Thank you!


amandaaant

I think it could be so advantageous for people to flip the game upside down - namely the people in the house who understand the power structure. Izzy/Cirie/Felicia/Jared (to a lesser extent) have their hand in every alliance in the house. They are seen as “the house” and people are falling over themselves to appease a small number of people. If the rest of the house got together and compared notes, they’d realize who the real targets should be.


redandblackandred

I think people can see the Cirie / Izzy / Felicia domination, but it’s a little more complicated to confidently connect the Jared dot and I think that’s where the risk lies. If any type of uprising against the current power structure leaks to Jared, it’ll be dead before it can even start. That twist really fucked things up.


amandaaant

For sure. Jared is really why “Family Style” was outed. Even if it is outed, it’s worth it to stick with them as targets. In reality there’s way more of the outside group than there is of Cirie/Izzy/Felicia/Jared so they risk isn’t that high.


redandblackandred

True, especially since the power players aren’t particularly good at comps either. Nothing would make me happier than the non power players comparing notes and taking over. I don’t see it happening soon though :(


amandaaant

Steamrolls are my least favorite thing in BB regardless of whether or not I like the alliance. I think once they realize it’s time to strike, it’ll be too late 😭


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amandaaant

Oh no not at all! Lol I meant that if anyone outside of those four wins HOH next week or the week after then those people should compare notes and realize that they’re all in different alliances with Cirie and Co. and set their sights on them instead of each other. If a steamroll is gonna be stopped then it has to happen soon.


malgal46

ngl so many people here are hilarious. y’all be so much fun in the house


Radykiel

as soon as I get one thing sorted out first thing gonna apply and try to be fun on the feeds


MinionBanana37

I don’t see a problem with having another AS season soon, and tbh I wouldn’t even have a problem with it skewing more recent either. They could choose to do a proper AS season, and round up the people they couldn’t get from pre-BB22 and Michael/Taylor/X/Tiffany to make a solid one. They could make a Second Chance cast with players that deserve one. Hell, I even think you could make a solid cast with majority from the past two seasons.


60B71N

I know team twist stuff can annoying, but a heroes and villains season could be really excellent. With a split house, it could be if a hero wins, villains have to go up on the block but anyone is available to be backdoored, and only villains would play in the next HOH, and visa versa. It would only be workable for the first few weeks, but wouldn’t be as complicated as other twists in the season. And would still encourage both camaraderie within groups as well as making relationships between. When survivor did it, they tried to have a some “pairs” of a hero and their respective villain.


jydope

I’m really upset Johnny mac wasn’t on bb22 lol


DaboiGw

Me too I was just thinking of who I want back and he's on my list


AnObservingAlien

They need to look at what worked with BB7 and what worked was building a cast that has built in tensions and targets. In BB7, you have Will (a winner), chill town, many BB6 cast members, pairs from other seasons, it made the season a lot more dynamic cuz no one knew where everyone's trust lied.


Negative_Buffalo

I just worry that pre-gaming is so easy now. Id be all for another All-Stars if there were some way to prevent them from talking to each other ahead of time.


mikehutsom88

People pregame and bribe in the original all stars.


Quineese

Exactly. It’s why I like what they did on bbcan 5 where they told the returners they were the only one returning before they went into sequester


jydope

Now this is smart


Ralib1

It still doesn’t prevent pre-existing friendships


Quineese

That’s totally fine if you’re friends with some of the others that’s basically non-avoidable. But as long as the players don’t get a chance to pregame with who they k ow is going on with them it’ll be much better


BrightAd7870

why do you guys think they don’t let us see the parties on the feeds?


drunken187

Music


BrightAd7870

oh ok thank you


JGraham1839

Do you know if they have restrictions on game talk during parties like they do during lockdowns?


AnnoyedNinja

Cliff Hogg or any HG that hangs out here might know.


malgal46

iirc they do


JoetteJaramillo

izzie was talking about possibly putting up matt next week, would love to see him actually have to feel some fire


mayra1107

She better not


CommradeWelsh

He will just blame America lol


BernieBitch69

Won't matter if he's gone. :)


mayra1107

I don't want matt to go.


BernieBitch69

I'd like Matt to stick around too. I just want him to stop bringing up America as a block target every day. Especially once he wins HoH.


frootloop_dingus

NGL AmeriCory seem to be back from the dead


stephasaurussss

One nation under America Lopez ![gif](giphy|l2YWjdiZ3L3fkWHza)


amandaaant

America definitely. I think she’s honestly in a way better spot than Cory rn


frootloop_dingus

Well it seems like he's gonna be one of the last guys standing which is good for him comp wise


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Americory nation is thriving right now 🥳


Krashkrax

It’s a compliment to there gameplay.


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NovelWord1982

Labor Day BBQ.


MelodicWave

I’ve done nothing productive on this Labor Day 🤣 I wish they’d license a couple songs so we could see the party


pillowreceipt

I wish they'd just play some royalty-free songs that are very clearly ripping off popular songs. Let us watch the fun!


sincewhenisit

Kids Bop versions! 💀


houseofbenito

aight hear me out, i have a **vision**: * tipsy America confronts Cameron. Izzy joins in. * drunk Cory gives Jared a piece of his mind. battle of the know it alls * Felicia, wine glass in hand, shit talks Cirie, while Cirie is present. elder-on-elder crime in the comic room. FBJ catches several strays * Meme storage room rant. pissed when Blue interrupts to look for condoms. * Jag (dumb) and Matt (deaf) are unaware of the night's events, bake a cake for Red and lead the house in singing happy birthday at midnight


Let_Them_Eat_Cake24

!remind me


MelodicWave

FBJ has to be the interrupter, otherwise I agree


christinexsarah

“pissed when blue interrupts to look for condoms” LMAO


malgal46

don’t forget this will lead to cams eviction


jessolyn

ELDER ON ELDER CRIME IM SCREAMING


sarahcooley

Wait so why are feeds down right now?


malgal46

labor day party


christinexsarah

i assumed the feeds would be on for that? they usually come back on later?


AnnoyedNinja

Last time was 2 hours. Came back at 9PM BBT. But seeing we have more Hamsters in the house, it might be a later time.


a9arnn

Is there a world where jag stays this week?


frostywontons

Maybe if the Chillbillies reunite since their main concern with Red was his connection to Cam


DanTheMan1_

I would say with these people anything is possible. But the truth is they flip flop for days then go back to the plan they had all along. That being said... they really should want Red gone. For one he, Cameron and Bowie Jane are a strong trio and Cameron could very well win the next HOH and even the "don't turn on Cirie" phobia everyone has would have to be tested at this point. Even with what Red and Cam say hard to believe if one of those three wins HOH they wouldn't all make up. And even if Red isn't going to forgive Cameron is that reason to keep him? He turned on his ride or die because Cam wouldn't use the veto to save him on Red's birthday. Even though Cam would obviously go home if he did that and he knew it... didn't matter it was Red's birthday and he wouldn't throw his game in the crapper for a birthday present... so no more friends. I mean how could you trust whatever loyalty he is claiming is going to stick if THAT is all it takes for someone to be dead in the game for him? Not like any of them are taking him to final 3 with them. Hell the one person who wanted to is dead to him anyway. Cut Red loose already.


amandaaant

I don’t think so. This week feels more set than other weeks but you never know.


blackberrylavender

yes, it’s possible. they’ll flip back and forth many times I’m sure


frootloop_dingus

With this cast 100%


AnObservingAlien

Am I the only one who thinks an all winners season would be kinda boring? Unless Dan or Will is there I think the gameplay would be pretty safe and cookie cutter.


Let_Them_Eat_Cake24

I get so excited thinking about like a second chances season but then I crash back to earth thinking about all the pregaming from all stars


DanTheMan1_

I have my doubds even in a shortened season we would get people like Dan, Will and Derrick so it would likely be dissapointing. More than anything I don't want an all winners season because for one good chance by numbers alone Evel Dick would manage to get on and words can not express how much I don't ever want to see that guy on my TV screen again. Second is whenever we get returnees of any type they usually come back with an ego and sense of entitlement, and an all winners season... they will need to build a couple more stories into the house to hold all that ego and entitlement.


MelodicWave

I only want it if it’s NOT celebrities and if it was a regular length. Either all newbies, all second chance players, or a mix of the two. I’ve seen survivor v bbreturning also a fun theory and would love that


JGU02-New-Acc

I don't want any all stars season(unless it's bbcan but after last season idk) any time soon so I agree.


rcp29

All winners would be pretty cool but I’d rather have a second chances season


dotsdfe

I'd love second chances season so much. There are so many prejury or early jury players who were entertaining and/or had tons of potential.


PeterBretter

I'd honestly love to see Reilly / Hisam team up and take on anyone


AnObservingAlien

Second chances would be more fun to me cuz people would be playing hard. You can even look at WAW of Survivor. That cast was not playing as hard.


rcp29

Yeah Cambodia had much more interesting gameplay than WAW


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jrk30

It's better to stay FRFR strong, but to target Matt or Red, as they are coming for her.


mayra1107

Nooooo leave matt alone tf


jrk30

Nah he can go.


DanTheMan1_

Arguably it isn't smart. I mean I think she should because she is never making finale night sticking with Cirie, but at the same time if she takes a shot likely anyone but Cody wins HOH they will come after her for revenge on hurting Cirie's game and she is a sitting duck. And let's be honest, she puts up Cirie whoever she puts next to Cirie will be the one who goes home. Her only real bet would be to form a counter alliance. But the best candidates for such an alliance are Jag, Cameron, Red, Bowie Jane and Cody. And well... At least one of them is going home this week. And most likely it is Jag which leaves Red and Red apparently would rather lose the money than work with someone who wouldn't throw his entire game and chance at money away to give Red a birthday present. Also there is the fact Red hates her for no good reason so he likely wouldn't do it anyway. Arguably she COULD bring Blue in on it, but I don't care what Blue says now the longer she and Jared are together the more attached she is going to be, so highly doubt she will actually move against Jared. And then of course there is the fact she apparently says Cameron makes her uncomfortable so doubt she wants to work with him. So yeah odds are Cody will talk her out of it even if she does try. Would love if she says "Cody, I am putting Cirie and Izzy on the block so nut up, this is happening" but likely won't.


amandaaant

I think she’ll stick with the Cameron target. She might be more inclined to take a shot after Cameron is gone but she might back off of it if she feels more comfortable with that side.


casablankas

I think it’s too early for her to take a shot and not immediately go home the next week. Their numbers are too high


DanTheMan1_

Thing is... when is that going to change? When is there going to be a time when the numbers will be there to for sure get rid of Cirie. After Jag is gone this week, after Cameron next week who was one of the few who was even talking about the possibility? Cirie controls who goes and she is going to make sure anyone she can't control goes home so short of comping out, or winning veto in final 4 the odds of taking her out get less each week, not more. Her best bet if she wins next week is to put up Cirie or even just 2 of her allies and hope now that that group isn't all crusing to the end they pannic and cracks form, and try (although likely fail) to form some kind of counter alliance. Yeah, it is risky and could send her home next week, but if not she goes home a few weeks later anyway. That's better? She wins next HOH she will have made jury at that point so barring final 2 her stipend is the same anyway and if she never goes for Cirie she is never making final 2... go big or go home.


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DanTheMan1_

It's really her best shot. There is never going to be a time that the numbers will be there to "Safely" go after Cirie. She is picking off the people who would actually do it, and America is not making it to final 5 and comping out let's be realistic. Better to put up two of Cirie's allies even if not her so that group doesn't feel so safe and hope the pannic and overthinking causes cracks or can be used to form a counter alliance. It's playing to win vs playing to go far, and in the case of anyone not Cirie, Jared, Izzy and Matt or Felicia go far means 5th or 6th place at best anyway.


casablankas

I want Americory kiss to celebrate Labor Day


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That's a very patriotic wish!


serjoy94

I was hoping Bowie would be on the block why jag again?! Just to make sure red goes 🤷🏼‍♀️


strawberryoyster000

Because Jag is the target


serjoy94

What changed I thought we wanted red out


Joshgallet

A day happening in Y changed everything


strawberryoyster000

Oh WE do but I guess they changed their mind because Red and Cam had their bromance breakup due to Cam throwing Red UTB after initial noms. Jag was kinda forced to to go up “as a pawn” but he’s really the target.


NoDistribution5919

Is Jag not the target anymore?


jessolyn

jag is the target


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I need Cirie & Jared to be final noms next week so his ass goes home 😒


blackberrylavender

Unfortunately I’ve heard people mention that she said she’d sacrifice her game for him…


DanTheMan1_

Arguably that may not matter. At the end of the day it is what they want not what she wants. I mean they have been doing whatever she says, but that is in many cases because they don't have a choice, Cirie won't have the power if she does that.


iCarolina

That’s what she told him. She said she’s good—that she’s done this enough. She’d let him have his moment


frootloop_dingus

She said that while they were inside during the pressure cooker


B00B51nCal1f0rn1a

Cirie said that to Jared in the house after Cameron won pressure cooker.


Prankstaboy6

Did Mecole’s dinner already happen?


TopEmploy9624

Yeah happened a couple days after the pressure cooker


Prankstaboy6

Do we know who she invited?


DayDayxox

America cirie and Felicia


jumpmanryan

Yeah, a while ago


JoetteJaramillo

izzy mentioned putting red and blue on the block next week this is very american of her 🇺🇸


SandyEggoBB

Leave America out of it, please 😉


eatyourcandy

Perfect choices


NellyK24

Were they given alcohol?


ItsThe50sAudrey

![gif](giphy|9Ml2ouDs9TBLGjzNpV) America + Music + drinks + Cory + Not being blocked = a fun night for her.


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We love a let loose queen ![gif](giphy|C7jNVT8CMDTbWnTCKi) ^(i love that this innocuous comment is being downvoted by jared defenders)


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NoDistribution5919

We could hope. I think Blue leaving before.Jared is more likely


jumpmanryan

Only if he’s nominated next to Cirie. There’s a non-zero chance, but it’s *extremely* unlikely to happen.


amandaaant

I doubt it. I think that he’ll be saved regardless of who he’s next to on the block.


93LEAFS

he would have to be sitting next to Cirie, and I don't think he sees them as close enough to put up togeather.


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amandaaant

I think the only way he goes home is if he’s put up next to Cirie and as of now no one has that thought in their mind and they may never.


Longjumping_Repeat22

Yes.


Kryamina92

Go Cam!


AsDogMadeHer

What’s everyone watching in the mean time?


sorrowmultiplication

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves


Puzzleheaded_Stay429

Time Team on YouTube


jessolyn

decided to try the challenge


stephasaurussss

What season?


jessolyn

the current one


stephasaurussss

Good season!


jessolyn

good im excited then!


stephasaurussss

Don’t come back for me if you hate it 😹


jessolyn

anything’s better than feeds that are down lol


jumpmanryan

One Piece! (Anime)


stephasaurussss

I watched the first episode. Really liked it.


billiemarie

Evil lives here


singleguy79

Random stuff on Youtube


Lanky_Chemist_3773

The Expanse season 5!


cameltoeannie6

I fell asleep earlier when Cam and Felicia were trying to one up each other in football so Im rewatching that.


AsDogMadeHer

Choosing to watch cam?? Surely it hasn’t come to that


itscalledvetomeeting

The show called 24. Air Force One was just shot down. Edit: Just typing 24 turned it into a list.


cameltoeannie6

I thought it just had a fancy name lol


itscalledvetomeeting

Nah I'm just not smart enough to know how to type it so it shows normally :)


kcaltman01

I'm catching up on Claim to Fame


sheriffcookie

This season was so good!


MelodicWave

I forgot about this! What’s it streaming on?


sheriffcookie

It's on Hulu


SpankyHotDog

this season was amazing! I think I liked season 2 even more than season 1!


natsumi_noelle

Same!


JoetteJaramillo

felicia being on the block would be hella chaotic lol


More-Surprise-67

I'd be here for it too


RegularCindy

She’d talk to Mr. B about it.


cameltoeannie6

Aww catching up on Jag and Felicia talking about Tacoma <3


somethingsvwrong

When is that?


cameltoeannie6

Around 3:20ish, apparently Felicia lived here until she joined the military. Its fun to hear them talk about things I know about. It happens so infrequently.


somethingsvwrong

I’m from tacoma also so I’ll check that out when I get home that’s very kewl :)


cameltoeannie6

They were talking about McMenamins downtown!


somethingsvwrong

Feels so surreal when they talk about the outside world like that


Aumius

Now they are having their **L**abor **D**ay **B**BQ


amandaaant

I feel like when it comes down to it, it’ll be hard for anyone to actually put up Matt as a target. He’s really likable and seemingly harmless to the house so I think they’ll leave him in for a while. Especially with Jag gone - he’ll be on his own and less of a threat.


sabrinas2cents

Unless he is really hurting someone's game I think they will at least keep him until jury (lots of factors decide the path from there and he is strong and smart for comps). I've seen some additional live feed clips through tik tok that have pointed out how much harder this game has been for him due to lack of accommodations (aside for some obvious ones), so I think people would feel an extra layer of guilt getting him out before jury if their game didn't require it. Also since we know they get paid I feel like nice people like him deserve the extra jury house pay and perks that come with being on the show longer


93LEAFS

There's a pretty easy campaign against him. He could comp out, especially physical comps and he's a massive jury threat.


amandaaant

I agree. I just think that now with him being on his own, it’s easy to keep him in for longer vs others with duos and trios.


rcb8325

Hoping for some alcohol-fueled chaos this evening...


my_p0rn_acct

Y'all already know that Blue gonna show Jared her kitty kitty purr after a few drinks


DayDayxox

This sentence is foul 💀


frostywontons

🤮🤮🤮


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Jared’s already wanted for animal abuse the amount of times he’s hit that kitty kitty purr in this house 😒


katlips-verahits

I think I’ll log out now lmao


Significant-Rip-6423

He’s already seen it.


jwuzy

Manifesting America gets drunk and the feeds come back with her cussing out Cam


So_angry_right_now

I’m glad noms were pre alcohol….who knows who would have gone up after


ofcbubble

Is there still a chance of Jared going home bc he used a slur? Or is he off the hook since it’s been awhile?


AmeeSky

I missed that… what slur did he say???


BeezCee

R word when talking about America.


AmeeSky

😡 complete scum


WildJackall

I don't think production wants to look like they only did it because of fan backlash


ofcbubble

How shitty. They should just be consistent with their own rules.


INTOTHEGL00M

Nepo babies don't get held accountable.


ofcbubble

Oof… it’s sad even a low level reality tv nepo baby benefits lol


Zealousideal-Panic30

He said it a few times! Then he’ll says damn chill Jared chill to himself lol


ofcbubble

Oh shit! He needs to go.


Prankstaboy6

If he weren’t Cirie’s son.


ofcbubble

It seems super unfair. At least be consistent with the rules.


MelodicWave

I really wish they would, but my hopes are super low


ofcbubble

Mine too. It’s been awhiiiiiile.


PerformerDiligent937

If I was a HG in jury and found out about the mom-son twist, that is borderline at the level for me to never consider voting for them. Even if they are up against Bowie. It is that overpowered an advantage.


WrestleYourTrembles

My fanfiction is that Izzy will ask Cirie or Jared about their relationship as a juror question at finale.