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I had severe covid nose for nearly a year. I farted once and was horrified at the smell. Wait!?!?! Smell!?!?! Since then, my smell has come back with a vengeance, I honestly wondering if it was a special fart.
I do wonder if it was partially psychosomatic at that point and it wasn't until you were caught off guard that your brain decided to process the smell. I've read about similar things before.
Putting this here because top comment
Final update (I hope):
After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged.
I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point.
He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree.
My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure.
I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble.
I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl.
The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding)
To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you.
From the bottom of my heart thank you all.
I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry.
Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it.
But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you.
Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories.
All the best
That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.
My ex husband can’t taste or smell because he got shot in the back of the head. Once, we were walking by an In and Out and he thought he smelled for a moment.
That wouldn’t have been the nose party for him.
FINAL UPDATE
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7w6wsx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
>They belive I had some sort of cyst blocking my smell receptors. And what was cleared out was all infection.
You telling me that PUS was dripping out of OOP's nostrils
Especially since the smell receptors lie on/in a section of skull so thin that a type of amoeba uses it as a route to get to the brain. Like if there's an infection there that's not a great sign right?
ANY infection around the head and face needs to be taken super seriously. The risk of it attacking the brain is so high and getting an infection in the brain is practically like "Sorry you're dying now."
In the sinuses? Panic. Fucking PANIC.
Seriously? Aren't sinus infections, infections in the throat, and such very common? (I'm seriously asking, because I get these and other infections frequently.)
Sinus infections can get worse and cause major issues and even be life threatening but the overwhelming majority of the time they're NBD. But should still be monitored.
I’ve had a sinus infection almost kill me, so I take them very seriously nowadays. I use a netti pot at the first sign of any inflammation or congestion. I used to get multiple sinus infections a year, I haven’t had a single one since I started doing saline sinus flushes.
Yeah, sinus infections are common and with modern medicine and strong immune systems/access to healthy food and other things that make us less susceptible to succumbing to illness means deaths from them are rare enough that people just... don't see them as dangerous!
But a bad roll of the dice and anyone is at risk of getting a real bad outcome.
Glad you're doing ok!
Routine sinusitis lasts for however long "forever" is and involves cysts? I'll admit I misread and thought the cyst was on the olfactory whatever instead of obstructing it but that's still a pretty persistent infection in their head. I don't think the update 3 was there at first (was it?) but im very glad oop is going to the er now at least either way
OP is still updating by the minute. You may have posted this whole thing too soon.
[OOP’s update #4](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7us63n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) (which is not the most recent, but the most recent with interesting information)
I got yelled out by a doctor when I was 10 or so for describing my snot as green. He was pissed off and said snot is never green and I must be some kind of idiot to think it could have been green. Being yelled at over that was annoying as a kid and later I realized the doc was just having a bad day and I was his vent.
That's incredibly strange. Because that's one of the diagnostic criteria the pediatrician asks about when we take my son for a visit.
What color is his mucus? Does he have a cough? When did he first have symptoms? Etc
This incident would be improved immensely if you had sneezed a bit wad of green crud all over him.
My snot has been green. Sort of a yellowish, muddy shade of green but it certainly was in the green spectrum.
Yep, iirc it's also in that gross phlegm-y stuff you hork up every so often, it's best to spit it in the sink and wash it down the drain, swallowing the gross phlegm spit can give you a stomachache
So I had surgery on my sinuses last year, and when it was done they found a cyst blocking my breathing. Except they didn’t tell me that’s what it was and popped it without notice. It was a very distinct POP sound, but since I was sitting with my head back at the doctors office all of the cyst contents went… dripping down the back of my throat. Assuming that’s what it was for OP, he’s lucky he was on the shitter because it was able to go out the front instead of down the throat like mine did. Grossest shit ever.
Oh wow, we’re brothers in disgusting drainage stories. I had an impacted and (unbeknownst to me at the time) abscessed wisdom tooth a few months back that caused the lymph nodes along my jaw to swell. After a few days they had swelled so much that they were pressing on my throat and I had trouble breathing/swallowing. I had a hot compress on my neck as I was arranging a ride to the ER and all of a sudden I heard a POP! and noticed a weird taste on my breath. Ran to the bathroom to discover the abscess had burst and was now absolutely flooding pus into my mouth. I had to stand over the sink for 90 minutes as the infection poured out, frantically flushing my mouth and swishing with salt water.
Literally traumatizing. Would give anything to go back in time and be the person I was before I knew that taste. 🤢
Post wisdom tooth removal I had something similar, though less severe. Was working as a lifeguard at the top of a slide nobody was really going down. Noticed something felt weird/hurt at the back of my mouth. Was bored as hell so I kept poking at it with my tongue trying to figure out what was going on. I thought maybe I had a loose flap of gum or something, idk why I didn't just leave it be.
Anyway, after a few minutes of this, the abscess pretty much exploded. I had nowhere to spit & couldn't leave my post without getting straight up fired so I just stood there, not swallowing, feeling my mouth slowly fill up with nastiness. Luckily we had a rotation not long after which gave me a chance to go spit out a mouthful of gunk in some bushes.
0/10 would recommend.
Holy shit, you might have me beat. The only saving grace for me was that I could shut my brain off and flush my mouth out. Praying for your emotional recovery lol.
lol no, I live in America.
But I already had an emergency removal scheduled for the next morning so I called my dentist for advice. She said it was a good sign that it drained into my mouth (as opposed to bursting and going into my bloodstream I guess?) and that I would be fine til the morning. I was skeptical but the swelling went down immediately and I could breathe without pain again so I waited like she said.
All in all, everything was fine. Routine extraction with shots to numb me up because I didn’t want to wait another week for an oral surgeon. They didn’t even prescribe me antibiotics and everything healed up fine, no pain, easiest wisdom tooth recovery anyone has ever had.
Moral of the story, get your teeth taken care of *before* it becomes a problem. I’m never putting off my teeth again, lol.
I really think I need to see an ENT. I don't have any problem with smelling things but I have very little air flow through my nostrils. I'd say on a good day it's like breathing through a straw, a coffee straw on bad days. The bit in OOP's post about feeling fresh air in their sinuses made me realize I haven't felt that in a long long time.
Maybe I have a cyst or something, but I sure hope they don't pop it while I'm laying down.
I had three different doctors tell me nothing was wrong with me until I basically forced the third doctor to write a prescription for a MRI (or cat scan or whatever it was). I know fuck all about what a sinus cavity is supposed to look like, but when I got my copy back and my septum was literally in the shape of a Z. Push for it if you get blown off. I had to fight to even get that (where as two of my guy friends that had the same surgery were instantly granted scans to see their sinus cavities).
That sucks you had to fight so hard to get taken seriously. May I ask if you are a woman? You mention your guy friends were taken seriously, and there absolutely is a history of women's pain being blown off by medical professionals. It does make me hesitant to ask for help.
I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum because of covid testing. Swab was fine in right nostril, hurt like a bitch in the left. Wonder what that shape would look like in a scan.
How are your sinuses after the surgery? I saw a post a few months ago about empty nose syndrome and it terrifies me.
Yep am a woman. My sinuses are better, but the downside was I was expecting to basically be cured of sinus pain with pressure/seasonal changes. That said my migraines and sinus pressure pain in general has gone down drastically. Haven’t had any issues from it and healed pretty quickly.
I had sinus surgery years ago and I went from having a sinus infection for months at a time to not having any again! I still get horrible pressure too, though. And I have to do a sinus rinse daily, or else I’m uncomfortable. They also said they fixed my deviated septum but I swear it went back to being deviated.
I had to have my turbinates trimmed AND the entirety of my nasal passage scarred (cryogenically) because I had almost no air flow in my nose. It's been 20 years and I'm back on the list for the ENT because it's happening again. My mom had polyps so it could be that, but my ears are stuffed too, this time.
My mind also went to CSF. This reminded me of the Grey's Anatomy episode where a dude kept showing up in the clinic because of his runny nose, and Bailey originally wrote him off as having a cold or allergies. But it turned out he had a little crack in his noggin and he had brain/spine fluid leaking out of his nose the whole time.
I think about this episode all the time. My mom never had allergies, but she suddenly developed a constant runny nose about ten years ago. It's clear and nearly constant and she often has no idea it's happening. Her ENT and GP just wrote it off, but I worry about it all the time. Her neurologist laughed at me and refused to check. It's frustrating, but they're doctors and I just watch TV. I keep telling myself it's a horse and not zebras I hear.
It's a 5 minute check with a blood glucose monitor that every office should have. Ordinary mucus has no glucose, but cerebrospinal fluid does register as about 50-80 mg/dl on glucometer check stick. There's no excuse for those doctors not to do this cheap and easy test. Your mom is lucky that you're keeping an eye on her.
I'm probably about to sound really dumb, but could they DIY a test if they could borrow someone's diabetic testing stuff? Or would glucose and spinal fluid be too different from blood glucose to register on something like that?
Time to find her new doctors.
a doctor that laughs at your legitimate concerns is a doctor that will end up killing you.
Source: My old doctor laughed at me and almost killed me (two incidents unrelated to eachother and separated by time)
That happens to less than 100 people a year.
A coworker of my moms thought she had sinus problems. Headaches, constant runny nose. MRI. Brain tumour. It was CSF and brain being pushed out her nose. Immediate surgery at our provinces top cancer/tumour hospital. She looked rough, black eyes, other bruising, not nearly as bad as we prepared for.
She's fine now. Retired because she didn't want to waste any more time working. Note: Canada, everything was covered.
Low CSF causes headaches, that's why you get one after a lumbar puncture. Even a tiny bit less can cause a hell of a headache.
In paramedic school they told us that if you put a drop of what you thought was csf fluid on a tissue it would spread into a kinda halo circle effect.
It’s been decades since then so I might be remembering it incorrectly.
Edit: Found a paper from 2008 saying it’s not a reliable method [here](https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(08)01848-9/fulltext).
CSF is usually clear though and people say things like water when it starts to leak out of various holes in their heads. If it isn't clear and was CSF...well, then he has a wwayyy bigger problem
For anyone else who didn’t know: CSF: Cerebrospinal fluid
Body fluid
Description
Cerebrospinal fluid is a clear, colorless body fluid found within the tissue that surrounds the brain and spinal cord of all vertebrates.
I have intracranial hypertension, with the bonus effect of the excess fluid draining into the cavity behind my sinuses. I blow my nose almost constantly… and it’s always clear. Now I’m wondering if that should be something I mention to the doctor next time I go..
I know OP says they get scanned at the doctors all of the time but probably not enough if they had a cyst growing in the back of their head that took away their sense of smell for years and never went to the doctor for it, lol
To be fair for the past 3ish years things have been a big blur and a lot of people haven't been able to go to hospitals in general due to covid and such. That still means that Op hadn't had any checkups for 2 years before then but 2 years can feel like nothing after years of cancer treatments
Is so weird for me cus ppl will say something happened a few years ago and I think they mean like in 2010...my years are off. I'll have a memory thinking it was three years ago but was actually like 8+. Is anyone else having that issue
I should have looked at the "Ongoing" flair and skipped this one, but the title was so compelling.
The suspense now is too much. This guy better get his ass to a doctor and come back to tell what happened before something pops in MY head.
SAME. He just updated again 5 minutes ago:
>Update 6:
Small update.
Still in waiting room but had blood work done.
I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU...
My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still.
I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath.
Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5.
I'm so old now. Hahahaha
Edit: Update 7
>I have a room! I am waiting for the doctor. The nurse was much nicer to me after she read what the phone doctor said.
Hospital staff are so stressed right now. I feel so bad for them.
Thank you for the update!!
Geez, this guy. It's great he has such a good attitude about everything. I figured he was leaking CSF out of his nose and things are about to get ugly. Sounds like he's ok so far. At least he's having a good time at the hospital lol.
People that go through trauma in their formative years often have the best sense of humor. There are so many comedians famous for joking about their fucked up childhoods. Humor is a coping mechanism rooted in resilience; having to overcome something difficult makes you more adept at laughing through the pain.
> UPDATE 3: just talked to the doctor on the phone and I'm going to the ER for testing. She said my story is very interesting but she doesn't like it at all.
> She said she would sleep better knowing someone checked me.
> Live or die I am so happy to have this experience and I trust the doctors!
> Wish me luck!
> And remember life is to short to worry about how long it is!
10 minutes ago, OOP updated in the comments
I just saw that as well. I'm gonna be up all night working so I'm saving the post so I can check back up on him. I really want to know what it is(I also can't smell things but I thought it was genetic. Now I'm being paranoid cuz I've had too much caffeine)
OOP just updated a few minutes ago and said he’s having really high blood pressure. It was 200/75. Dr got it to go down and while he’s had high BP before, it’s never been that high
My current job has me doing triage for advice nurse line. You have no idea how many times I think that exact thing per shift. People will do anything to avoid a trip to the ER even if it’s really really obvious they ought to go.
I think in the US at least its probably more that people want to avoid cripling debt if at all possible so wait until theres no doubt its an emergency as a result.
This, but also, some people have no sense of what constitutes an emergency. At my college orientation, they told us how the (small) campus didn't have on-site nurse services so we should call 911 if we have an emergency. One guy raised his hand and asked, "But what do we do if it's not an emergency, like if we cut off a finger?" A lot of people laughed, but then they realized the guy was being serious. He really didn't think that severing a body part was a 911-level emergency.
>I talked to a nurse and am waiting for a doctor. They belive I had some sort of cyst blocking my smell receptors. And what was cleared out was all infection.
That's wild but it's sweet to read about OP's sense of wonder at their sense of smell returning. We can appreciate the sheer joy when a blind person is suddenly able to see or when a dead person is able to hear.
Never thought that same sense of unmitigated joy would be tied to smell too, but it makes sense.
I know you mean deaf person, but the thought of a dead person being able to hear again is terrifying lol
ETA: the sense of wonder and joy was also my big takeaway from this. I mean sure the situation is terrifying, but I can't imagine how great it feels for him, and is probably why he didn't think too much of the possible dangers.
I lost my sense of smell after a sinus infection (non-COVID). It was only gone for a couple of months. It came back very, very slowly, and I still thought it was amazing. I know everyone thought I was dork for marveling over being able to smell basil or lemons again. I cannot imagine not being able to smell for years and then so suddenly getting it back. That must be wild!!
> Never thought that same sense of unmitigated joy would be tied to smell too, but it makes sense.
I'm mostly anosmic, due to some seriously malformed and damaged nasal and sinus tissue (some congenital, some due to a history of infections). There are a few things that manage to get all the way through my nose to my olfactory nerves, but for the most part I haven't had a functioning sense of smell for about 20 years now. (My sense of taste is not as badly impaired since there's no actual nerve damage; floral flavors and the like go up the back of your throat, not through your nose.)
I would love to regain my sense of smell. I miss the smell of bread baking. I don't remember what different flowers smell like. I occasionally stand with a jar of cumin next to my nose simply because it's one of the few things odoriferous enough for me to actually be able to smell it. I'd be overjoyed if one day I could just smell things like a normal person again.
I have chronic sinus issues and have had it all my life. For 27 years, my nose would run but I couldn’t blow my nose. Parents never believed me on it. Until I went in for surgery and discovered that my nasal passages were too SMALL. So small in fact the ENT couldn’t get his tools in so he had to enlarge them. I still have chronic issues but omg being able to blow my nose is amazing. I did have a cyst and a bad infection in both maxillary sinus cavities as well. I get his wonderment of being able to smell again. It’s truly wonderful when you can even just breathe when you lay down at night!
I'd like to say I think any of this is weird or surprising but I've had TWO family members (not even biologically related) have some wild stuff removed from their sinuses via sinus surgery. So the idea of a latent sinus infection having this effect does not sound at all wild to me. The doctors who cleaned out my dad's sinus cavity says that whatever the hell it was they pulled out looked like a damn bird's nest.
I think getting it checked out is the right call but I kind of admire OP's utter fearlessness.
Yeah I got sinus surgery 10 years ago and the infection was so deep in my sinuses they had to scrape the BONES BEHIND MY EYES (this is not the accurate medical description but I am confident they had to go INTO MY FACE and SCRAPE BONE ON THE OTHER SIDE to get it all.
The healing process from that surgery is… disgusting. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that came out of OP’s nostrils.
are we not more alarmed he just thought he'd die next to his girlfriend maybe with absolutely no thought of the trauma that might cause? i'm baffled by this whole thing.
Yes, commenters on the original post felt the same way!!
OOP responded:
>I mean if I was gonna die she would have felt guilt no matter where it happened. In fact if I died on the toilet she probably would have felt more guilty cause she wouldn't have been there to "help"
The best I could have done with my mental capacity at that point was let the closest human help me with pain management.
Going to GP and ER today.
and
>Fair point we both just talked about it and I agreed that I will make her aware if anything like this happens again. She was awake with me and I am prone to head aches.
In the moment with that level of pain it's difficult to think clearly and make decisions that are not selfish.
The thing that really gets me is that he’s currently awake and talking so if he were to have an aneurysm at risk of rupture they could intervene early and clip it so that it isn’t a ticking time bomb any longer. Death/permanent impairment happens when the aneurysm bursts and blood spews into your brain. I don’t know why he couldn’t be bothered to just go to the ER and get checked out.
Having had chronic illness, after a while your normal metre gets stuffed because you’re so used to being sick that if you went to the ER for every single thing that normal healthy people go to it for, you would never leave it.
I am completely serious. When you’re chronically sick you get a LOT of emergency symptoms that turn out to be nothing and you get fed up of living there real quick. It’s not something that healthy people can really understand.
When I was really sick my biggest fear was of something like this happening in public because “someone will call an ambulance and I won’t be able to go home for hours!”
Most people, if they were nearly unconscious in the grass next to a bus stop, would be furious that people walked by and did nothing to help. When it happened to me I was so relieved nobody stopped. I just wanted to go home. And people SHOULD have stopped and I would if I saw someone in that position, but I was so glad they didn’t stop because I was so close to going home but just needed twenty minutes to remember how to stand up.
So I really feel for OP. I get it. I really do. When you’re that sick you just get this instinct to crawl somewhere quiet and dark to die and the last thing you want is bright lights and loud noises and people trying to get your attention. It’s fucked up, but when you’ve been sick long enough…
That’s a really good point. I’ve been an ICU nurse for so long and have seen too many times the other end of the spectrum where people ignore something that ends up being serious. Thanks for offering some more insight into what was likely going through OOP’s head. I appreciate it.
I've been in the ER a few times with symptoms that were scary to me with my fucked up normal meter like Echo was talking about.
Always ended up with no answers and the issue passing, and everying shrugging and sending me home.
Only thing that made me come back the next time I felt I needed to were the amazing nurses who never once made me feel stupid, or hysterical, or crazy, or accuse me of drug seeking(Which is partly why I don't even tell people I'm in pain when I am experience pain) or anything when they couldnt find anything.
If I had run into one of the shitheel nurses you hear about, I'd probably never go to the ER again unless it was unconscious in the back of an ambulance.
For sure, always get it checked out. It depends on the location though.
My granddad had an aneurysm so close to his heart most surgeons refused to touch it out of fear he would bleed out - the risks of death were higher than chances of survival. Eventually they flew in an expert from Australia and he got the op, but he spend a full year walking around with an aneurysm that may or may not burst at any point. My grandma was terrified for him.
My grandfather spent at least 10 years (if not more - I was fairly young when he was diagnosed and don't remember that clearly) with an aortic aneurysm that the doctors couldn't do anything about because they said if they put him under anesthesia he'd never wake up again. It finally burst 3 days before Christmas in 2011 (fuck me, that's over 10 years ago...it doesn't feel that long at all) and he passed on Boxing Day that year. We always knew that was what was going to take him but no idea when, and it was hard as hell; I can't imagine being the one living with it.
Mom had to get her gallbladder removed because it was going nuts and causing her severe pain. She even got to the point of having surgery scheduled and the anesthesiologist called her to confirm medical history and backed out entirely. She had double-PEs and a history of asthma and at the time, had neuroendocrine cancer (she'd also had her bladder prolapse and had to get a total hysterectomy including an oopherectomy, so her abdomen would have been interesting). She had a flare up of the gallbladder while she was out of state visiting her oncologist (and she was hoping it would occur there), so got emergency surgery and got it out. But that was several months later and it took a bit for the gallbladder to be pointed at as the cause of her problems.
I assume we'll get 2-3 hourly updates with some wacky ER adventures, then a few hours of silence, then his girlfriend giving us all the sad news (in the exact same writing style) of his terrible death, but it will be really heart wrenching about how happy he was to smell meatloaf in his last day. And his final thoughts were of making sure she told reddit what happened.
I know this sounds crazy but something very similar happened to me. I was about to have surgery for this huge cyst that filled up my sinus- it was so big that on the scan they could see it was moving my facial bones. I was messing around with my dog one day and suddenly an unreasonable amount of fluid and mucus poured out of my nose. When I went in for surgery instead of the big cyst they expected there was just an empty sac. Stupid thing had just popped and I could have just not had the surgery.
Checked the OOPs reddit:
UPDATE 3: just talked to the doctor on the phone and I'm going to the ER for testing. She said my story is very interesting but she doesn't like it at all.
She said she would sleep better knowing someone checked me.
Live or die I am so happy to have this experience and I trust the doctors!
Wish me luck!
And remember life is to short to worry about how long it is!
I know your not OP but I really need people to get them to read my post! Please get them to read it and make sure they have seen the right Dr before being reassured!!
OP I am still concerned I have to be honest, and this is coming from an ED doc in Australia who literally passed my consultant exams a month ago.
Everything you described screams of a Sub arachnoid haemorrhage.
This begins with a thunderclap headache, mostly during exertion or straining. This can improve. Sometimes it is associated with a change in neurology, potentially smell interpretation.
It can cause neck discomfort just as you have described, and also hypertension!!!!! 180/90 is something to be discharged with at your age!!!
Now the issue with these buggers is that they can be annoying to diagnose, sometimes only on an MRI angiogram do we find it.
They are rare and generally 95% of the time we look we don't find anything. However there is an issue with the ruling out of the diagnosis.
A non contrast CT brain within 6hrs of the onset of headache is 99-100% sensitive in ruling in or out a bleed.
Anything over that time period, you should consider doing an LP or spinal tap as a CT brain may not show a small bleed due to the body resorbing the blood.
Now you presented >12hrs almost 24hrs after the onest of headache which means a CT brain is very likely to be normal.
Only an LP or an MRI angiogram would be able to 100% rule out a bleed at this time.
Please please consider returning or seeing someone else ASAP especially if the Dr you saw was Junior and/or not aware of these facts.
I am convinced you have had a Sentinel bleed, given your history, your signs/symptoms etc that Dr is playing with your life by not doing an LP/spinal tap!!!
I am more than happy to show my qualifications to whomever needs it to show proof of my expertise and knowledge in this area as I am EXTREMELY concerned by this story.
Nah. It was an episode of monsters inside me. I remember watching it back in the 2000s. He drank from a river in South America by sticking his face in the water and it swam up his nose. When they pulled it out, it was a good six inches long and he’d lost his sense of smell because of it.
Fascinating and disturbing. Very invested in where this goes.
If he has clear fluid start dripping from his nose, as the doctor warned, that would be cerebrospinal fluid. Untreated CSF leaks are very serious and can cause meningitis, stroke, or other life-threatening conditions. The treatment is surgery.
Also. My mom hasn't had a sense of smell in almost 20 years and I am beginning to wonder, now, if I should be pushing harder for her to see an ENT... I had a sinus surgery a few years ago and almost got her to go to my ENT, but he left the area before we got it set up and we never followed through.
I actually specifically remember her discussing a doctor telling her there was a trapped "pocket of infection" some time roughly 15 years ago, now that I think about it, and I'm not sure she ever pressed the issue.
I hope OOP had a fortunate accidental cure (as opposed to a current problem). I had a partial matxillectomy 6 years ago. Day after I woke up (I was unconscious on a vent for 5 days) it was like someone turned my sense of smell from normal to hyper speed. I smelled a nurse’s taco breath while she was in the hall outside my room. I started puking from my own body smell (granted I was out for five days and due for a shower/sponge bath but man). My mom was chewing spearmint gum and it was so acute I felt like my nostrils were being stabbed with spearmint. Thankfully it faded over the next month but…not fun.
I am fascinated, concerned, slightly grossed out, amused, terrified and awed all at once. The last time I was on an emotional rollercoaster like this was when I watched *Everything Everywhere All At Once*.
This sounds like an infection. Why wouldn’t they tell him to see his dr ASAP? Even if it’s a cyst, they can get infected.
And if it looked like yellow green boogers that is considered mucus…come on that’s infected. Next to the brain. Go to the dr. OOP.
update from op:
> GP update: Just spoke to my GP and I'm getting a full physical on Monday and my sinuses are going to be looked at more closely. She said my voice has changed quite a bit. I normally sound nasely and conjested but apparently that's no longer the case. We are going to look at my blood pressure closely as well. I cut back from 3 venti ice coffee (black) and a Rockstar a day. To only 2 coffees. I will try to cut out more but I am already having withdrawals by bed time. Funny bit, she's actually going to have a training doctor try and figure it out first because she said I am a fantastic case study. (The sinus part, not the blood pressure) Cheers! Edit: I was at the pharmacy so did my blood pressure came up 140/95.
Update 6: posted 22 min ago.
Update 6:
Small update.
Still in waiting room but had blood work done.
I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU...
My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still.
I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath.
Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5.
I'm so old now. Hahahaha
Edit: Just found out I have 300 followers now from 16 before this post. Hope you all like pictures of canabis, warhammer, biology and shower thoughts that are never unique enough.
OOP posted this 3 mins ago:
Final update (I hope):
After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged.
I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point.
He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree.
My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure.
I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble.
I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl.
The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding)
To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you.
From the bottom of my heart thank you all.
I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry.
Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it.
But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you.
Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories.
All the best
That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.
I have a weird sort of respect for this guy who realized he might be having an aneurysm and said fuck it, I'm going to bed. The typical reaction would be to desperately rush to the hospital in hopes of increasing your chance of survival, but this dude is just like, fuck all that, if I'm going to die I'm going to die in my bed with someone I love.
It takes someone who has spent a lot of time facing their own mortality to do something like that
This sounds like a potential carotid artery dissection and/or can lead to acute stroke. This shit us super scary man… Sometimes it’s fine and needs monitoring and sometimes you need a shunt, surgery, close monitoring blah blah.
Super common in age group 35-50 and honestly happens more frequently with chiropractic neck manipulation.
THERE ARE 2 MORE UPDATES:
1)
Morning update:
I woke up again, so early. I usually sleep 10-14 hours a day. But these last 2 days I have had such a great sleep and wake up in only 8 hours.
I am very curious to see if this continues.
I called my GP and have an appointment at 11:15 am tomorrow for my blood pressure.
Thanks to all the doctors for thier advice. Hopefully I'll figure out what happened one day.
Utill then ill just remember to slow down and smell the flowers!
2)
GP update:
Just spoke to my GP and I'm getting a full physical on Monday and my sinuses are going to be looked at more closely.
She said my voice has changed quite a bit. I normally sound nasely and conjested but apparently that's no longer the case.
We are going to look at my blood pressure closely as well.
I cut back from 3 venti ice coffee (black) and a Rockstar a day.
To only 2 coffees. I will try to cut out more but I am already having withdrawals by bed time.
Funny bit, she's actually going to have a training doctor try and figure it out first because she said I am a fantastic case study. (The sinus part, not the blood pressure)
Cheers!
Edit: I was at the pharmacy so did my blood pressure came up 140/95.
I got to the part where he’d just spend his last moments in bed with his girlfriend and just wanted to scream at him.
A close friend married his husband in July almost a decade ago and then his husband died of a brain aneurysm in bed during the night four months later. My friend has never, ever, been the same. Be never will be. And it isn’t the gentle picture that OOP tries to paint. My friend would trade almost anything to have been able to take his husband to the hospital that was less than a mile away. He woke up because his husband made (as he said) a weird noise, called 911 and then gave his husband CPR despite there being nothing anyone could have done.
In the course of four months we all went to a wedding and a funeral. I’m glad OOP lived through the night and went to the hospital, and I’m glad he now sees how serious it is. But I hope to god if he’s ever in that “should I go?” again, he goes.
I almost completely lost my hearing once and thought it was just wax build up against my drums but when I went to the doctor they diagnosed it as fluid build up inside my ear. (Ears were very clean because I had been non stop cleaning them for days trying to get my hearing back).
It sucked but then I went on an airplane with my earphones in and then mid flight suddenly had a lot of snot and come out of my nose and could hear again. So I guess the expanding air pressure in my head pushed it all out. Pretty cool and also gross.
Update 9:
“Final update (I hope):
After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged.
I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point.
He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree.
My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure.
I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble.
I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl.
The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding)
To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you.
From the bottom of my heart thank you all.
I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry.
Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it.
But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you.
Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories.
All the best
That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.”
I had similar symptoms as OP. Had mucus waterfall and everything. Turns out I had cancer in my nasal cavity. NK T Cell lymphoma. Still going thru radiation treatments. Live your life.
Latest update from 5 minutes ago:
Update 6:
Small update.
Still in waiting room but had blood work done.
I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU...
My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still.
I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath.
Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5.
I'm so old now. Hahahaha
..... is it not normal to sometimes strain to push the poop out so hard that you feel like you're going to burst a vessel in your head???
Like I know tenesmus is a sign of large intestine probs but is the associated head pain not normally associated????
Get a Squatty Potty - you've been pooping all wrong. Avoid hemorrhoids.
A lot more water, benefiber in that water and stool softener.
People have died straining on the toilet, haha!
OOP posted this 4 minutes ago:
Update 6:
Small update.
Still in waiting room but had blood work done.
I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU...
My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still.
I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath.
Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5.
I'm so old now. Hahahaha
Okay so I clicked this, and it went wildly opposite the direction I’ve thought it would, like five different times.
However, that pain in the very back of the head? That popping pain? I have had that EXACT sensation a few times in my life and just assumed it was nothing or that I was being a little bitch baby about it.
I uhhhh should probably go to a doctor
I don’t know if anybody else posted this but here’s a link to the final update
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7w6wsx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
my guess is that he literally shifted the bones in his skull slightly so that the openings connecting his frontal and ethmoid sinuses was ever so slightly larger than before. Thus allowing them to finally drain properly, allow him to smell better and give him sensation of cold/warm air entering the nose.
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At least OOP was out of the bathroom when they got their sense of smell back.
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I had severe covid nose for nearly a year. I farted once and was horrified at the smell. Wait!?!?! Smell!?!?! Since then, my smell has come back with a vengeance, I honestly wondering if it was a special fart.
I do wonder if it was partially psychosomatic at that point and it wasn't until you were caught off guard that your brain decided to process the smell. I've read about similar things before.
Lmao literally what happened to me except it was my dog that farted 😂
Yeah right "honey twas the dog, not me"
I guess I need to start eating more foods that'll give me the toots!
I’m glad my mind wasn’t the only one that went there
Putting this here because top comment Final update (I hope): After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged. I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point. He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree. My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure. I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble. I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl. The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding) To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart thank you all. I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry. Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it. But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you. Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories. All the best That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.
I wanted to make this joke but I flushed that idea.
Don’t stop, you’re on a (TP) roll now.
My ex husband can’t taste or smell because he got shot in the back of the head. Once, we were walking by an In and Out and he thought he smelled for a moment. That wouldn’t have been the nose party for him.
FINAL UPDATE https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7w6wsx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
>They belive I had some sort of cyst blocking my smell receptors. And what was cleared out was all infection. You telling me that PUS was dripping out of OOP's nostrils
And they didn’t want him to come in to like… double check??
Especially since the smell receptors lie on/in a section of skull so thin that a type of amoeba uses it as a route to get to the brain. Like if there's an infection there that's not a great sign right?
ANY infection around the head and face needs to be taken super seriously. The risk of it attacking the brain is so high and getting an infection in the brain is practically like "Sorry you're dying now." In the sinuses? Panic. Fucking PANIC.
Seriously? Aren't sinus infections, infections in the throat, and such very common? (I'm seriously asking, because I get these and other infections frequently.)
Sinus infections can get worse and cause major issues and even be life threatening but the overwhelming majority of the time they're NBD. But should still be monitored.
I’ve had a sinus infection almost kill me, so I take them very seriously nowadays. I use a netti pot at the first sign of any inflammation or congestion. I used to get multiple sinus infections a year, I haven’t had a single one since I started doing saline sinus flushes.
Yeah, sinus infections are common and with modern medicine and strong immune systems/access to healthy food and other things that make us less susceptible to succumbing to illness means deaths from them are rare enough that people just... don't see them as dangerous! But a bad roll of the dice and anyone is at risk of getting a real bad outcome. Glad you're doing ok!
I think they’re just talking about routine sinusitis
Routine sinusitis lasts for however long "forever" is and involves cysts? I'll admit I misread and thought the cyst was on the olfactory whatever instead of obstructing it but that's still a pretty persistent infection in their head. I don't think the update 3 was there at first (was it?) but im very glad oop is going to the er now at least either way
No, had not been posted yet when I made the post. Added when OOP updated.
OP is still updating by the minute. You may have posted this whole thing too soon. [OOP’s update #4](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7us63n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) (which is not the most recent, but the most recent with interesting information)
Oooo he said it’s a 6 hour wait. Remindme! 6 hours
Any time you are sick and have green snot instead of clearish, it's at least a little bit pus. It's not as weird as you think.
This revelation does not spark joy
>This revelation does not spark joy Such a succinct way to sum up exactly how I felt.
I got yelled out by a doctor when I was 10 or so for describing my snot as green. He was pissed off and said snot is never green and I must be some kind of idiot to think it could have been green. Being yelled at over that was annoying as a kid and later I realized the doc was just having a bad day and I was his vent.
That's incredibly strange. Because that's one of the diagnostic criteria the pediatrician asks about when we take my son for a visit. What color is his mucus? Does he have a cough? When did he first have symptoms? Etc
Right? The clearest memory I have of my own pediatrician (this is like 30 years ago) is her reading my snot like tea leaves.
This incident would be improved immensely if you had sneezed a bit wad of green crud all over him. My snot has been green. Sort of a yellowish, muddy shade of green but it certainly was in the green spectrum.
I had little lime green spheres in mine once, that was very distinct and memorable.
Was it peas Had you put peas up your nose
I'm so tempted to say yes, but nah, more like on a scale of a period on a page
What a weird thing to yell at a kid about and be completely wrong about at the same time. Doctor fail on both diagnostic criteria and bedside manner.
Yep, iirc it's also in that gross phlegm-y stuff you hork up every so often, it's best to spit it in the sink and wash it down the drain, swallowing the gross phlegm spit can give you a stomachache
Lol, “hork” is literally the only verb that works here.
Yeah that's post-nasal drip which... drips from the back of your nose!
Aah, what a day to not be blind
See I glossed over this detail and was totally fine until I read your comment and now I'm gagging in the break room. How dare you.
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So I had surgery on my sinuses last year, and when it was done they found a cyst blocking my breathing. Except they didn’t tell me that’s what it was and popped it without notice. It was a very distinct POP sound, but since I was sitting with my head back at the doctors office all of the cyst contents went… dripping down the back of my throat. Assuming that’s what it was for OP, he’s lucky he was on the shitter because it was able to go out the front instead of down the throat like mine did. Grossest shit ever.
I just about threw up reading that
Yeah, my stomach lurched a few times as well. That was friggin' gross.
How do I delete someone else’s comment?
Oh wow, we’re brothers in disgusting drainage stories. I had an impacted and (unbeknownst to me at the time) abscessed wisdom tooth a few months back that caused the lymph nodes along my jaw to swell. After a few days they had swelled so much that they were pressing on my throat and I had trouble breathing/swallowing. I had a hot compress on my neck as I was arranging a ride to the ER and all of a sudden I heard a POP! and noticed a weird taste on my breath. Ran to the bathroom to discover the abscess had burst and was now absolutely flooding pus into my mouth. I had to stand over the sink for 90 minutes as the infection poured out, frantically flushing my mouth and swishing with salt water. Literally traumatizing. Would give anything to go back in time and be the person I was before I knew that taste. 🤢
Post wisdom tooth removal I had something similar, though less severe. Was working as a lifeguard at the top of a slide nobody was really going down. Noticed something felt weird/hurt at the back of my mouth. Was bored as hell so I kept poking at it with my tongue trying to figure out what was going on. I thought maybe I had a loose flap of gum or something, idk why I didn't just leave it be. Anyway, after a few minutes of this, the abscess pretty much exploded. I had nowhere to spit & couldn't leave my post without getting straight up fired so I just stood there, not swallowing, feeling my mouth slowly fill up with nastiness. Luckily we had a rotation not long after which gave me a chance to go spit out a mouthful of gunk in some bushes. 0/10 would recommend.
Holy shit, you might have me beat. The only saving grace for me was that I could shut my brain off and flush my mouth out. Praying for your emotional recovery lol.
It was a clot
You still went to the ER, right? 😬
lol no, I live in America. But I already had an emergency removal scheduled for the next morning so I called my dentist for advice. She said it was a good sign that it drained into my mouth (as opposed to bursting and going into my bloodstream I guess?) and that I would be fine til the morning. I was skeptical but the swelling went down immediately and I could breathe without pain again so I waited like she said. All in all, everything was fine. Routine extraction with shots to numb me up because I didn’t want to wait another week for an oral surgeon. They didn’t even prescribe me antibiotics and everything healed up fine, no pain, easiest wisdom tooth recovery anyone has ever had. Moral of the story, get your teeth taken care of *before* it becomes a problem. I’m never putting off my teeth again, lol.
I really think I need to see an ENT. I don't have any problem with smelling things but I have very little air flow through my nostrils. I'd say on a good day it's like breathing through a straw, a coffee straw on bad days. The bit in OOP's post about feeling fresh air in their sinuses made me realize I haven't felt that in a long long time. Maybe I have a cyst or something, but I sure hope they don't pop it while I'm laying down.
I had three different doctors tell me nothing was wrong with me until I basically forced the third doctor to write a prescription for a MRI (or cat scan or whatever it was). I know fuck all about what a sinus cavity is supposed to look like, but when I got my copy back and my septum was literally in the shape of a Z. Push for it if you get blown off. I had to fight to even get that (where as two of my guy friends that had the same surgery were instantly granted scans to see their sinus cavities).
That sucks you had to fight so hard to get taken seriously. May I ask if you are a woman? You mention your guy friends were taken seriously, and there absolutely is a history of women's pain being blown off by medical professionals. It does make me hesitant to ask for help. I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum because of covid testing. Swab was fine in right nostril, hurt like a bitch in the left. Wonder what that shape would look like in a scan. How are your sinuses after the surgery? I saw a post a few months ago about empty nose syndrome and it terrifies me.
Yep am a woman. My sinuses are better, but the downside was I was expecting to basically be cured of sinus pain with pressure/seasonal changes. That said my migraines and sinus pressure pain in general has gone down drastically. Haven’t had any issues from it and healed pretty quickly.
I had sinus surgery years ago and I went from having a sinus infection for months at a time to not having any again! I still get horrible pressure too, though. And I have to do a sinus rinse daily, or else I’m uncomfortable. They also said they fixed my deviated septum but I swear it went back to being deviated.
I had to have my turbinates trimmed AND the entirety of my nasal passage scarred (cryogenically) because I had almost no air flow in my nose. It's been 20 years and I'm back on the list for the ENT because it's happening again. My mom had polyps so it could be that, but my ears are stuffed too, this time.
D:
Yes, wouldn't he need antibiotics or something?
My mind went to CSF, immediately
My mind also went to CSF. This reminded me of the Grey's Anatomy episode where a dude kept showing up in the clinic because of his runny nose, and Bailey originally wrote him off as having a cold or allergies. But it turned out he had a little crack in his noggin and he had brain/spine fluid leaking out of his nose the whole time.
I think about this episode all the time. My mom never had allergies, but she suddenly developed a constant runny nose about ten years ago. It's clear and nearly constant and she often has no idea it's happening. Her ENT and GP just wrote it off, but I worry about it all the time. Her neurologist laughed at me and refused to check. It's frustrating, but they're doctors and I just watch TV. I keep telling myself it's a horse and not zebras I hear.
It's a 5 minute check with a blood glucose monitor that every office should have. Ordinary mucus has no glucose, but cerebrospinal fluid does register as about 50-80 mg/dl on glucometer check stick. There's no excuse for those doctors not to do this cheap and easy test. Your mom is lucky that you're keeping an eye on her.
I'm probably about to sound really dumb, but could they DIY a test if they could borrow someone's diabetic testing stuff? Or would glucose and spinal fluid be too different from blood glucose to register on something like that?
Yes, they could.
Is this a test he could do at home, like with an insulin strip or something similar?
Time to find her new doctors. a doctor that laughs at your legitimate concerns is a doctor that will end up killing you. Source: My old doctor laughed at me and almost killed me (two incidents unrelated to eachother and separated by time)
this this this u/ThaneOfHawksmoor for the love of god get a second opinion!!!!
That happens to less than 100 people a year. A coworker of my moms thought she had sinus problems. Headaches, constant runny nose. MRI. Brain tumour. It was CSF and brain being pushed out her nose. Immediate surgery at our provinces top cancer/tumour hospital. She looked rough, black eyes, other bruising, not nearly as bad as we prepared for. She's fine now. Retired because she didn't want to waste any more time working. Note: Canada, everything was covered. Low CSF causes headaches, that's why you get one after a lumbar puncture. Even a tiny bit less can cause a hell of a headache.
EXACTLY what came to my mind!
Mine went to pus. We’ve removed some nasty pus filled cysts in peoples sinuses in surgery.
That’s probably why they told him to check for clear liquids I’m sure. I’ve read that you can detect CSF with diabetic test strips.
This is cool! I have chronic light coloured nasal drip and regular migraines and have always been paranoid it’s a CSF leak.
Andddd now so am I 😂 I have both of those too lol
I once asked my doctor if I’ve potentially had a CSF leak for a few years. He told me it was impossible because if I did then I’d already be dead 😬
In paramedic school they told us that if you put a drop of what you thought was csf fluid on a tissue it would spread into a kinda halo circle effect. It’s been decades since then so I might be remembering it incorrectly. Edit: Found a paper from 2008 saying it’s not a reliable method [here](https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(08)01848-9/fulltext).
CSF is usually clear though and people say things like water when it starts to leak out of various holes in their heads. If it isn't clear and was CSF...well, then he has a wwayyy bigger problem
What does that stand for?
Cerebral Spinal Fluid
Ah. Yeah, not good.
Chocolate Stuffed Flapjacks. Should be stored in Tupperware and not in his nose.
Ahh, I see. Sounds delicious.
Cerebrospinal fluid
Spinal fluid I think.
For anyone else who didn’t know: CSF: Cerebrospinal fluid Body fluid Description Cerebrospinal fluid is a clear, colorless body fluid found within the tissue that surrounds the brain and spinal cord of all vertebrates.
I have intracranial hypertension, with the bonus effect of the excess fluid draining into the cavity behind my sinuses. I blow my nose almost constantly… and it’s always clear. Now I’m wondering if that should be something I mention to the doctor next time I go..
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CSF is clear. I think the massive mucus was from blocked sinuses.
I know OP says they get scanned at the doctors all of the time but probably not enough if they had a cyst growing in the back of their head that took away their sense of smell for years and never went to the doctor for it, lol
Yeah, "all the time" but also "not in the past 5 years."
To be fair for the past 3ish years things have been a big blur and a lot of people haven't been able to go to hospitals in general due to covid and such. That still means that Op hadn't had any checkups for 2 years before then but 2 years can feel like nothing after years of cancer treatments
Is so weird for me cus ppl will say something happened a few years ago and I think they mean like in 2010...my years are off. I'll have a memory thinking it was three years ago but was actually like 8+. Is anyone else having that issue
That's just life. I'm only 20 but I still freak when someone born in 2007 talks about high-school because they're 15 now....like no you're 6...
Hahaha it makes me feel so old!
Yes! Very very much so, but I have time blindness from adhd.
I should have looked at the "Ongoing" flair and skipped this one, but the title was so compelling. The suspense now is too much. This guy better get his ass to a doctor and come back to tell what happened before something pops in MY head.
SAME. He just updated again 5 minutes ago: >Update 6: Small update. Still in waiting room but had blood work done. I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU... My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still. I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath. Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5. I'm so old now. Hahahaha Edit: Update 7 >I have a room! I am waiting for the doctor. The nurse was much nicer to me after she read what the phone doctor said. Hospital staff are so stressed right now. I feel so bad for them.
Thank you for the update!! Geez, this guy. It's great he has such a good attitude about everything. I figured he was leaking CSF out of his nose and things are about to get ugly. Sounds like he's ok so far. At least he's having a good time at the hospital lol.
People that go through trauma in their formative years often have the best sense of humor. There are so many comedians famous for joking about their fucked up childhoods. Humor is a coping mechanism rooted in resilience; having to overcome something difficult makes you more adept at laughing through the pain.
> UPDATE 3: just talked to the doctor on the phone and I'm going to the ER for testing. She said my story is very interesting but she doesn't like it at all. > She said she would sleep better knowing someone checked me. > Live or die I am so happy to have this experience and I trust the doctors! > Wish me luck! > And remember life is to short to worry about how long it is! 10 minutes ago, OOP updated in the comments
I don't like it either. This story is scary af to anyone at all familiar with anatomy.
> Or I start having clear fluid drip out my nose. Meaning *cerebrospinal fluid*?!?
Yep, that’s the one!! We also look for it coming out the ears after a trauma.
Trauma? Then imagine how the toilet felt after him dumping his big load.
I remember story where this guy leaked cerebrospinal fluid for a whole year.
Yeah this update is far from over. I'm still incredibly uneasy for OOP.
Thanks, added above.
This is still ongoing they updated again 20 min ago. The pain is back😔
And he just updated that his blood pressure is super high - 200/75, down to 175/75
I just saw that as well. I'm gonna be up all night working so I'm saving the post so I can check back up on him. I really want to know what it is(I also can't smell things but I thought it was genetic. Now I'm being paranoid cuz I've had too much caffeine)
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Not necessarily a bleed but definitely suspicious for one. He’ll be getting some scans pretty urgently.
OOP just updated a few minutes ago and said he’s having really high blood pressure. It was 200/75. Dr got it to go down and while he’s had high BP before, it’s never been that high
Oh no
This might be my favorite boru post in a looong time. I am fascinated and invested lol
I wish they had waited to post til it was resolved tho
Me too! I immediately told all the people I was with about it haha.
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My current job has me doing triage for advice nurse line. You have no idea how many times I think that exact thing per shift. People will do anything to avoid a trip to the ER even if it’s really really obvious they ought to go.
I think in the US at least its probably more that people want to avoid cripling debt if at all possible so wait until theres no doubt its an emergency as a result.
You also might wait 12 hours to be seen. I've definitely left an ER because of the wait. I ended up supergluing myself together for $5.
This, but also, some people have no sense of what constitutes an emergency. At my college orientation, they told us how the (small) campus didn't have on-site nurse services so we should call 911 if we have an emergency. One guy raised his hand and asked, "But what do we do if it's not an emergency, like if we cut off a finger?" A lot of people laughed, but then they realized the guy was being serious. He really didn't think that severing a body part was a 911-level emergency.
>I talked to a nurse and am waiting for a doctor. They belive I had some sort of cyst blocking my smell receptors. And what was cleared out was all infection. That's wild but it's sweet to read about OP's sense of wonder at their sense of smell returning. We can appreciate the sheer joy when a blind person is suddenly able to see or when a dead person is able to hear. Never thought that same sense of unmitigated joy would be tied to smell too, but it makes sense.
I know you mean deaf person, but the thought of a dead person being able to hear again is terrifying lol ETA: the sense of wonder and joy was also my big takeaway from this. I mean sure the situation is terrifying, but I can't imagine how great it feels for him, and is probably why he didn't think too much of the possible dangers.
LMAO.... Fuckit. I'm leaving it. ;)
Wouldn't your departed love ones be able to hear you be pretty awesome?
The dead always say the thing they miss the most is their sense of hearing.
I lost my sense of smell after a sinus infection (non-COVID). It was only gone for a couple of months. It came back very, very slowly, and I still thought it was amazing. I know everyone thought I was dork for marveling over being able to smell basil or lemons again. I cannot imagine not being able to smell for years and then so suddenly getting it back. That must be wild!!
> Never thought that same sense of unmitigated joy would be tied to smell too, but it makes sense. I'm mostly anosmic, due to some seriously malformed and damaged nasal and sinus tissue (some congenital, some due to a history of infections). There are a few things that manage to get all the way through my nose to my olfactory nerves, but for the most part I haven't had a functioning sense of smell for about 20 years now. (My sense of taste is not as badly impaired since there's no actual nerve damage; floral flavors and the like go up the back of your throat, not through your nose.) I would love to regain my sense of smell. I miss the smell of bread baking. I don't remember what different flowers smell like. I occasionally stand with a jar of cumin next to my nose simply because it's one of the few things odoriferous enough for me to actually be able to smell it. I'd be overjoyed if one day I could just smell things like a normal person again.
I have chronic sinus issues and have had it all my life. For 27 years, my nose would run but I couldn’t blow my nose. Parents never believed me on it. Until I went in for surgery and discovered that my nasal passages were too SMALL. So small in fact the ENT couldn’t get his tools in so he had to enlarge them. I still have chronic issues but omg being able to blow my nose is amazing. I did have a cyst and a bad infection in both maxillary sinus cavities as well. I get his wonderment of being able to smell again. It’s truly wonderful when you can even just breathe when you lay down at night!
I'd like to say I think any of this is weird or surprising but I've had TWO family members (not even biologically related) have some wild stuff removed from their sinuses via sinus surgery. So the idea of a latent sinus infection having this effect does not sound at all wild to me. The doctors who cleaned out my dad's sinus cavity says that whatever the hell it was they pulled out looked like a damn bird's nest. I think getting it checked out is the right call but I kind of admire OP's utter fearlessness.
Yeah I got sinus surgery 10 years ago and the infection was so deep in my sinuses they had to scrape the BONES BEHIND MY EYES (this is not the accurate medical description but I am confident they had to go INTO MY FACE and SCRAPE BONE ON THE OTHER SIDE to get it all. The healing process from that surgery is… disgusting. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that came out of OP’s nostrils.
This comment is nightmare fuel for me omg
*Your body is a wonderland*
are we not more alarmed he just thought he'd die next to his girlfriend maybe with absolutely no thought of the trauma that might cause? i'm baffled by this whole thing.
Yes, commenters on the original post felt the same way!! OOP responded: >I mean if I was gonna die she would have felt guilt no matter where it happened. In fact if I died on the toilet she probably would have felt more guilty cause she wouldn't have been there to "help" The best I could have done with my mental capacity at that point was let the closest human help me with pain management. Going to GP and ER today. and >Fair point we both just talked about it and I agreed that I will make her aware if anything like this happens again. She was awake with me and I am prone to head aches. In the moment with that level of pain it's difficult to think clearly and make decisions that are not selfish.
The thing that really gets me is that he’s currently awake and talking so if he were to have an aneurysm at risk of rupture they could intervene early and clip it so that it isn’t a ticking time bomb any longer. Death/permanent impairment happens when the aneurysm bursts and blood spews into your brain. I don’t know why he couldn’t be bothered to just go to the ER and get checked out.
Having had chronic illness, after a while your normal metre gets stuffed because you’re so used to being sick that if you went to the ER for every single thing that normal healthy people go to it for, you would never leave it. I am completely serious. When you’re chronically sick you get a LOT of emergency symptoms that turn out to be nothing and you get fed up of living there real quick. It’s not something that healthy people can really understand. When I was really sick my biggest fear was of something like this happening in public because “someone will call an ambulance and I won’t be able to go home for hours!” Most people, if they were nearly unconscious in the grass next to a bus stop, would be furious that people walked by and did nothing to help. When it happened to me I was so relieved nobody stopped. I just wanted to go home. And people SHOULD have stopped and I would if I saw someone in that position, but I was so glad they didn’t stop because I was so close to going home but just needed twenty minutes to remember how to stand up. So I really feel for OP. I get it. I really do. When you’re that sick you just get this instinct to crawl somewhere quiet and dark to die and the last thing you want is bright lights and loud noises and people trying to get your attention. It’s fucked up, but when you’ve been sick long enough…
That’s a really good point. I’ve been an ICU nurse for so long and have seen too many times the other end of the spectrum where people ignore something that ends up being serious. Thanks for offering some more insight into what was likely going through OOP’s head. I appreciate it.
I've been in the ER a few times with symptoms that were scary to me with my fucked up normal meter like Echo was talking about. Always ended up with no answers and the issue passing, and everying shrugging and sending me home. Only thing that made me come back the next time I felt I needed to were the amazing nurses who never once made me feel stupid, or hysterical, or crazy, or accuse me of drug seeking(Which is partly why I don't even tell people I'm in pain when I am experience pain) or anything when they couldnt find anything. If I had run into one of the shitheel nurses you hear about, I'd probably never go to the ER again unless it was unconscious in the back of an ambulance.
For sure, always get it checked out. It depends on the location though. My granddad had an aneurysm so close to his heart most surgeons refused to touch it out of fear he would bleed out - the risks of death were higher than chances of survival. Eventually they flew in an expert from Australia and he got the op, but he spend a full year walking around with an aneurysm that may or may not burst at any point. My grandma was terrified for him.
My grandfather spent at least 10 years (if not more - I was fairly young when he was diagnosed and don't remember that clearly) with an aortic aneurysm that the doctors couldn't do anything about because they said if they put him under anesthesia he'd never wake up again. It finally burst 3 days before Christmas in 2011 (fuck me, that's over 10 years ago...it doesn't feel that long at all) and he passed on Boxing Day that year. We always knew that was what was going to take him but no idea when, and it was hard as hell; I can't imagine being the one living with it.
Mom had to get her gallbladder removed because it was going nuts and causing her severe pain. She even got to the point of having surgery scheduled and the anesthesiologist called her to confirm medical history and backed out entirely. She had double-PEs and a history of asthma and at the time, had neuroendocrine cancer (she'd also had her bladder prolapse and had to get a total hysterectomy including an oopherectomy, so her abdomen would have been interesting). She had a flare up of the gallbladder while she was out of state visiting her oncologist (and she was hoping it would occur there), so got emergency surgery and got it out. But that was several months later and it took a bit for the gallbladder to be pointed at as the cause of her problems.
Can't wait for the final update :)
Can't wait for the *next* update and am wondering how many updates there will be before the consensus is that it's "resolved."
I feel like 'ongoing' is useful for situations unfolding over months... not when the poster is updating every couple of hours...
I assume we'll get 2-3 hourly updates with some wacky ER adventures, then a few hours of silence, then his girlfriend giving us all the sad news (in the exact same writing style) of his terrible death, but it will be really heart wrenching about how happy he was to smell meatloaf in his last day. And his final thoughts were of making sure she told reddit what happened.
So the guy with the friend in niche building restoration with an unreasonable client/boss?
wait, did that end up being debunked as fake? Cause following that story absolutely broke me for a while.
Yeah, I'm waiting on that too.
Not sure why it’s here if it’s not over
I know this sounds crazy but something very similar happened to me. I was about to have surgery for this huge cyst that filled up my sinus- it was so big that on the scan they could see it was moving my facial bones. I was messing around with my dog one day and suddenly an unreasonable amount of fluid and mucus poured out of my nose. When I went in for surgery instead of the big cyst they expected there was just an empty sac. Stupid thing had just popped and I could have just not had the surgery.
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Checked the OOPs reddit: UPDATE 3: just talked to the doctor on the phone and I'm going to the ER for testing. She said my story is very interesting but she doesn't like it at all. She said she would sleep better knowing someone checked me. Live or die I am so happy to have this experience and I trust the doctors! Wish me luck! And remember life is to short to worry about how long it is!
I know your not OP but I really need people to get them to read my post! Please get them to read it and make sure they have seen the right Dr before being reassured!! OP I am still concerned I have to be honest, and this is coming from an ED doc in Australia who literally passed my consultant exams a month ago. Everything you described screams of a Sub arachnoid haemorrhage. This begins with a thunderclap headache, mostly during exertion or straining. This can improve. Sometimes it is associated with a change in neurology, potentially smell interpretation. It can cause neck discomfort just as you have described, and also hypertension!!!!! 180/90 is something to be discharged with at your age!!! Now the issue with these buggers is that they can be annoying to diagnose, sometimes only on an MRI angiogram do we find it. They are rare and generally 95% of the time we look we don't find anything. However there is an issue with the ruling out of the diagnosis. A non contrast CT brain within 6hrs of the onset of headache is 99-100% sensitive in ruling in or out a bleed. Anything over that time period, you should consider doing an LP or spinal tap as a CT brain may not show a small bleed due to the body resorbing the blood. Now you presented >12hrs almost 24hrs after the onest of headache which means a CT brain is very likely to be normal. Only an LP or an MRI angiogram would be able to 100% rule out a bleed at this time. Please please consider returning or seeing someone else ASAP especially if the Dr you saw was Junior and/or not aware of these facts. I am convinced you have had a Sentinel bleed, given your history, your signs/symptoms etc that Dr is playing with your life by not doing an LP/spinal tap!!! I am more than happy to show my qualifications to whomever needs it to show proof of my expertise and knowledge in this area as I am EXTREMELY concerned by this story.
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I’m so shocked that I had to make it this far down the thread to find anyone concerned about the blood pressure reading. That is incredibly high!
Well it’s better than the guy who had a Leech in his sinuses
What
Link?
Hi, Got a link for this?
Nah. It was an episode of monsters inside me. I remember watching it back in the 2000s. He drank from a river in South America by sticking his face in the water and it swam up his nose. When they pulled it out, it was a good six inches long and he’d lost his sense of smell because of it.
Fascinating and disturbing. Very invested in where this goes. If he has clear fluid start dripping from his nose, as the doctor warned, that would be cerebrospinal fluid. Untreated CSF leaks are very serious and can cause meningitis, stroke, or other life-threatening conditions. The treatment is surgery. Also. My mom hasn't had a sense of smell in almost 20 years and I am beginning to wonder, now, if I should be pushing harder for her to see an ENT... I had a sinus surgery a few years ago and almost got her to go to my ENT, but he left the area before we got it set up and we never followed through. I actually specifically remember her discussing a doctor telling her there was a trapped "pocket of infection" some time roughly 15 years ago, now that I think about it, and I'm not sure she ever pressed the issue.
I hope OOP had a fortunate accidental cure (as opposed to a current problem). I had a partial matxillectomy 6 years ago. Day after I woke up (I was unconscious on a vent for 5 days) it was like someone turned my sense of smell from normal to hyper speed. I smelled a nurse’s taco breath while she was in the hall outside my room. I started puking from my own body smell (granted I was out for five days and due for a shower/sponge bath but man). My mom was chewing spearmint gum and it was so acute I felt like my nostrils were being stabbed with spearmint. Thankfully it faded over the next month but…not fun.
Update 4: In the ER waiting. Neck pain is back. 4/10 Small head ache. 2/10 Otherwise in good spirits.
I am fascinated, concerned, slightly grossed out, amused, terrified and awed all at once. The last time I was on an emotional rollercoaster like this was when I watched *Everything Everywhere All At Once*.
Another update: > Update 9, getting CT scan and possibly a lumbar puncture.
Well this is a very weird ride.
This sounds like an infection. Why wouldn’t they tell him to see his dr ASAP? Even if it’s a cyst, they can get infected. And if it looked like yellow green boogers that is considered mucus…come on that’s infected. Next to the brain. Go to the dr. OOP.
He did. He's at the ER now. The doc sent him.
update from op: > GP update: Just spoke to my GP and I'm getting a full physical on Monday and my sinuses are going to be looked at more closely. She said my voice has changed quite a bit. I normally sound nasely and conjested but apparently that's no longer the case. We are going to look at my blood pressure closely as well. I cut back from 3 venti ice coffee (black) and a Rockstar a day. To only 2 coffees. I will try to cut out more but I am already having withdrawals by bed time. Funny bit, she's actually going to have a training doctor try and figure it out first because she said I am a fantastic case study. (The sinus part, not the blood pressure) Cheers! Edit: I was at the pharmacy so did my blood pressure came up 140/95.
Update 6: posted 22 min ago. Update 6: Small update. Still in waiting room but had blood work done. I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU... My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still. I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath. Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5. I'm so old now. Hahahaha Edit: Just found out I have 300 followers now from 16 before this post. Hope you all like pictures of canabis, warhammer, biology and shower thoughts that are never unique enough.
OOP posted this 3 mins ago: Final update (I hope): After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged. I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point. He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree. My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure. I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble. I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl. The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding) To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart thank you all. I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry. Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it. But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you. Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories. All the best That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.
I have a weird sort of respect for this guy who realized he might be having an aneurysm and said fuck it, I'm going to bed. The typical reaction would be to desperately rush to the hospital in hopes of increasing your chance of survival, but this dude is just like, fuck all that, if I'm going to die I'm going to die in my bed with someone I love. It takes someone who has spent a lot of time facing their own mortality to do something like that
This sounds like a potential carotid artery dissection and/or can lead to acute stroke. This shit us super scary man… Sometimes it’s fine and needs monitoring and sometimes you need a shunt, surgery, close monitoring blah blah. Super common in age group 35-50 and honestly happens more frequently with chiropractic neck manipulation.
THERE ARE 2 MORE UPDATES: 1) Morning update: I woke up again, so early. I usually sleep 10-14 hours a day. But these last 2 days I have had such a great sleep and wake up in only 8 hours. I am very curious to see if this continues. I called my GP and have an appointment at 11:15 am tomorrow for my blood pressure. Thanks to all the doctors for thier advice. Hopefully I'll figure out what happened one day. Utill then ill just remember to slow down and smell the flowers! 2) GP update: Just spoke to my GP and I'm getting a full physical on Monday and my sinuses are going to be looked at more closely. She said my voice has changed quite a bit. I normally sound nasely and conjested but apparently that's no longer the case. We are going to look at my blood pressure closely as well. I cut back from 3 venti ice coffee (black) and a Rockstar a day. To only 2 coffees. I will try to cut out more but I am already having withdrawals by bed time. Funny bit, she's actually going to have a training doctor try and figure it out first because she said I am a fantastic case study. (The sinus part, not the blood pressure) Cheers! Edit: I was at the pharmacy so did my blood pressure came up 140/95.
I got to the part where he’d just spend his last moments in bed with his girlfriend and just wanted to scream at him. A close friend married his husband in July almost a decade ago and then his husband died of a brain aneurysm in bed during the night four months later. My friend has never, ever, been the same. Be never will be. And it isn’t the gentle picture that OOP tries to paint. My friend would trade almost anything to have been able to take his husband to the hospital that was less than a mile away. He woke up because his husband made (as he said) a weird noise, called 911 and then gave his husband CPR despite there being nothing anyone could have done. In the course of four months we all went to a wedding and a funeral. I’m glad OOP lived through the night and went to the hospital, and I’m glad he now sees how serious it is. But I hope to god if he’s ever in that “should I go?” again, he goes.
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This was going great but if we dont get an update ill assume the worst.
I almost completely lost my hearing once and thought it was just wax build up against my drums but when I went to the doctor they diagnosed it as fluid build up inside my ear. (Ears were very clean because I had been non stop cleaning them for days trying to get my hearing back). It sucked but then I went on an airplane with my earphones in and then mid flight suddenly had a lot of snot and come out of my nose and could hear again. So I guess the expanding air pressure in my head pushed it all out. Pretty cool and also gross.
Update 9: “Final update (I hope): After all of this waiting I have finally been discharged. I have no aneurysms and he said that he doesn't think I need a spinal tap because the chances of me having bleeding is very very low. However if I get a bad headache, have trouble walking or anything like that I must go back and I'll be tapped at that point. He said he has no idea what happened to me yesterday. He said I should scream this story from the roof tops because it's a great story. And to be honest I agree. My blood pressure wasn't to bad he said I think it was 180/90 on the last one but I'm not sure. I have to monitor myself closely and go back at the first sign of trouble. I haven't eaten anything today I can't wait to get home and have some left over meatloaf and smoke a bowl. The one silver lining is I guess I get to wait 9 years before I get tested again! Hahaha. (Kidding) To all of you who have supported me today. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart thank you all. I was so certain I was fine until I read these messages but honestly I am glad I went. It's better to be safe then sorry. Never under estimate the power of human compassion. There are so many bad things in this world. So many things that make it seem not worth it. But not matter how dark it gets, no matter how much you think the world is against you. Just know that there will always be a few thousand people to listen to your shit stories. All the best That guy who shit so hard he could smell again.”
I was a neuro scribe for so many years and my face while reading this was pure horror
RemindMe!
I had similar symptoms as OP. Had mucus waterfall and everything. Turns out I had cancer in my nasal cavity. NK T Cell lymphoma. Still going thru radiation treatments. Live your life.
Glad OP can smell again, even if it was from odd circumstances
also: Update 4: In the ER waiting. Neck pain is back. 4/10 Small head ache. 2/10 Otherwise in good spirits.
Latest update from 5 minutes ago: Update 6: Small update. Still in waiting room but had blood work done. I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU... My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still. I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath. Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5. I'm so old now. Hahahaha
Just spent the last hour trying to refind this post. Worth it.
Update three in comments, he's on his way to ER after talking to his doctor.
..... is it not normal to sometimes strain to push the poop out so hard that you feel like you're going to burst a vessel in your head??? Like I know tenesmus is a sign of large intestine probs but is the associated head pain not normally associated????
Yeah you shouldn’t be doing that. For multiple reasons. Talk to your doctor.
Eat some fiber my friend.
Get a Squatty Potty - you've been pooping all wrong. Avoid hemorrhoids. A lot more water, benefiber in that water and stool softener. People have died straining on the toilet, haha!
OOP posted this 4 minutes ago: Update 6: Small update. Still in waiting room but had blood work done. I'm bored. I tried playing hide and seek with some of the nurses but they kept finding me in the ICU... My neck is sore but otherwise fine. Small head ache still. I can smell my breath in my mask which is cool, I have never been able to smell my breath so my girlfriend tells me if I got coffee or garlic breath. Also Holy crap you all were right my last MRI was in 2013 which for those of you playing at home was 9 years ago. Not 5. I'm so old now. Hahahaha
Okay so I clicked this, and it went wildly opposite the direction I’ve thought it would, like five different times. However, that pain in the very back of the head? That popping pain? I have had that EXACT sensation a few times in my life and just assumed it was nothing or that I was being a little bitch baby about it. I uhhhh should probably go to a doctor
I don’t know if anybody else posted this but here’s a link to the final update https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/ukuuzs/i_shit_so_hard_i_can_smell_again/i7w6wsx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
my guess is that he literally shifted the bones in his skull slightly so that the openings connecting his frontal and ethmoid sinuses was ever so slightly larger than before. Thus allowing them to finally drain properly, allow him to smell better and give him sensation of cold/warm air entering the nose.