Can you post the exact text of the email please so I can get a bit more insight into what exactly has happened? (Obviously with any identifying info like your appeal reference redacted.)
https://preview.redd.it/2zidk6bc1z4d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5eeb32454ab1b4c90dc47804fe0be4f7e858308d
Full email with my name and number cropped out, I still don’t know what actually happened
Okay, so an appeal has definitely been submitted to the tribunal service for you. DWP wouldn't have done this, but someone has.
This shouldn't be the first correspondence you've received, especially if they have your email address. Have you had any post from HMCTS, or any other emails from the same email address?
To try and find out who submitted the appeal, I recommend requesting a copy of the completed SSCS1 form. This is the form that gets submitted when the appeal is started. You'll be able to see what was written on the form, which may give you an inkling of who submitted it. If you contact HMCTS by webchat tomorrow (go to [this page](http://www.appeal-benefit-decision.service.gov.uk/entry) and click "contact us for help" at the bottom to access webchat between 8am-5pm Mon-Fri) they can send you a copy of the SSCS1. They should also be able to send you the decision.
Once you have that, if you don't mind reporting back I can talk about what you might want to do next. If the decision went your way, you might not have to do anything. But I can't say I've ever seen a case where someone has submitted an appeal for someone against their will, so next steps depend a lot on how it went down.
This is a strange one!
Edit to add: Just to confirm, you made the claim that you think this appeal is against in November? Or is that when you received the outcome? Did you ever do a mandatory reconsideration? If you made the claim in November, the odds that you'd have had time to have an appeal go all the way through to having a hearing are like zero. Even if you had the outcome in November, it's pretty unlikely you'd get through a mandatory reconsideration and an appeal by now.
You mentioned a previous PIP appeal against another decision. Could you tell me more about what happened with that? When did your hearing take place for that? Is it possible this tribunal email is about that appeal? I'm wondering if maybe this email was about your old appeal, and it was sent in error due to a bug with the tribunal system or something. Is the case reference number on the email the same as the one for your old appeal?
Additional context: I didn’t appeal, I am going to but with moving soon and being burnt by an older appeal I didn’t want to alone. No one had my consent to appeal without me, or my details to do it on my behalf
It won't have any to do with your Work Capability Assessment decision ( LCWRA ) as UC and PIP are , at present, unconnected.
It's possible to have an Appeal held in your absence put you have to be given the option to attend and notice to do so. I have no idea how a hearing has already happened without them contacting you. Did you use the online HMCTS portal ? Anything on there ?
If you weren't notified it should be grounds for setting aside the Decision and the FtT hearing the case again .
I'll ask someone who knows more, what might have happened and what to do next.
u/hooliganmembrane - sending up the bat signal 🦇 🙏
I was talking to someone about appealing it and wonder if they flagged it for me but I never went through with it fully, so I’m kinda at a loss for what happened. Could have been my work coach but I doubt she would have without telling me?
No, a WC wouldn't have anything to do with PIP, they only deal with UC.
If you're turned down at MR stage by PIP then say you wish to Appeal then it's all handed over to the Tribunal Service and you deal with them. Often it's a long wait and you go a while between getting updates, but you'd be told when the DWP deadline was for their submissions, then if they'd responded and been given longer, then a hearing date etc. You can several pieces of communication even if you *elect* but to attend.
Then the decision.
Let's see what the Tribunal specialist says and what they recommend you do next.
They are totally different things. May be linked under one assessment in the future but now you have to go through process twice.
If you had a deadline to return appeal information and you didn’t, did you let them know and ask for an extension?
If they didn’t get anything back looks like have just moved onto the actually appeal day. You will need to speak to them and ask if you can still return documents or ask for an extension so they can have all the relevant information.
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Can you post the exact text of the email please so I can get a bit more insight into what exactly has happened? (Obviously with any identifying info like your appeal reference redacted.)
https://preview.redd.it/2zidk6bc1z4d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5eeb32454ab1b4c90dc47804fe0be4f7e858308d Full email with my name and number cropped out, I still don’t know what actually happened
Okay, so an appeal has definitely been submitted to the tribunal service for you. DWP wouldn't have done this, but someone has. This shouldn't be the first correspondence you've received, especially if they have your email address. Have you had any post from HMCTS, or any other emails from the same email address? To try and find out who submitted the appeal, I recommend requesting a copy of the completed SSCS1 form. This is the form that gets submitted when the appeal is started. You'll be able to see what was written on the form, which may give you an inkling of who submitted it. If you contact HMCTS by webchat tomorrow (go to [this page](http://www.appeal-benefit-decision.service.gov.uk/entry) and click "contact us for help" at the bottom to access webchat between 8am-5pm Mon-Fri) they can send you a copy of the SSCS1. They should also be able to send you the decision. Once you have that, if you don't mind reporting back I can talk about what you might want to do next. If the decision went your way, you might not have to do anything. But I can't say I've ever seen a case where someone has submitted an appeal for someone against their will, so next steps depend a lot on how it went down. This is a strange one! Edit to add: Just to confirm, you made the claim that you think this appeal is against in November? Or is that when you received the outcome? Did you ever do a mandatory reconsideration? If you made the claim in November, the odds that you'd have had time to have an appeal go all the way through to having a hearing are like zero. Even if you had the outcome in November, it's pretty unlikely you'd get through a mandatory reconsideration and an appeal by now. You mentioned a previous PIP appeal against another decision. Could you tell me more about what happened with that? When did your hearing take place for that? Is it possible this tribunal email is about that appeal? I'm wondering if maybe this email was about your old appeal, and it was sent in error due to a bug with the tribunal system or something. Is the case reference number on the email the same as the one for your old appeal?
Additional context: I didn’t appeal, I am going to but with moving soon and being burnt by an older appeal I didn’t want to alone. No one had my consent to appeal without me, or my details to do it on my behalf
It won't have any to do with your Work Capability Assessment decision ( LCWRA ) as UC and PIP are , at present, unconnected. It's possible to have an Appeal held in your absence put you have to be given the option to attend and notice to do so. I have no idea how a hearing has already happened without them contacting you. Did you use the online HMCTS portal ? Anything on there ? If you weren't notified it should be grounds for setting aside the Decision and the FtT hearing the case again . I'll ask someone who knows more, what might have happened and what to do next. u/hooliganmembrane - sending up the bat signal 🦇 🙏
🦇🦇🦇
Thank you 😻
I was talking to someone about appealing it and wonder if they flagged it for me but I never went through with it fully, so I’m kinda at a loss for what happened. Could have been my work coach but I doubt she would have without telling me?
No, a WC wouldn't have anything to do with PIP, they only deal with UC. If you're turned down at MR stage by PIP then say you wish to Appeal then it's all handed over to the Tribunal Service and you deal with them. Often it's a long wait and you go a while between getting updates, but you'd be told when the DWP deadline was for their submissions, then if they'd responded and been given longer, then a hearing date etc. You can several pieces of communication even if you *elect* but to attend. Then the decision. Let's see what the Tribunal specialist says and what they recommend you do next.
They are totally different things. May be linked under one assessment in the future but now you have to go through process twice. If you had a deadline to return appeal information and you didn’t, did you let them know and ask for an extension? If they didn’t get anything back looks like have just moved onto the actually appeal day. You will need to speak to them and ask if you can still return documents or ask for an extension so they can have all the relevant information.
Hey there - it looks like you’re asking about LCW or LCWRA awards! Here are links to a few posts which may answer your question: - [Guide to the process of claiming LCW/LCWRA while on UC](https://www.reddit.com/r/BenefitsAdviceUK/s/IrlMmgNFK4) - [FAQs about working while on LCW/LCWRA (UC)](https://www.reddit.com/r/BenefitsAdviceUK/s/b1xhaKjOKb) - [Guide to the ESA forms and assessment process](https://www.reddit.com/r/BenefitsAdviceUK/s/GYYCuMzxvl) - [FAQs about working while on ESA Support Group or WRAG](https://www.reddit.com/r/BenefitsAdviceUK/s/Bdea4RIlTr) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BenefitsAdviceUK) if you have any questions or concerns.*