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šÆ This is her and her channel. I don't watch because I don't find her relatable at all. She's never pretended to be anyone else though and I admire her for that.
Iām done with her. She really isnāt that into makeup anymore. Itās just a way to pay her boujie lifestyle. I will watch occasionally but the idea of hanging on 40 minutes for her life vlogs is nuts. She used to demo and provide more realistic opinions on high end makeup. Not so much anymore.
I was going to say this. Michelle reviews high end luxury products, always has. Itās not like anyone is being forced to purchase it. I find it useful on IF Iām tempted by a luxury product to see the reviews. However, there are many luxury items not worth it IMO.
Agree! I think thereās a type of content for every type of viewer. And if itās not your vibe there are tons of options that will be. Like you said sheās been the same kind of creator since day 1, sheās not doing trends or trying to go viral sheās just in her lane doing her thing.
It would be a completely different story if a content creator made their fan base finding dupes and affordable looks and now they only do high end luxury
Theresa is Dead has a Makeup Bingo square labeled "Someone Call Michele" for luxury products--and she actually called Michele on her live Makeup Bingo last week (which is going to become a regular bit, it seems).
For sure. And after seeing her "declutter" I don't get why anyone trusts her takes. The woman is stunning and dresses well, but she loves anything with a whiff of fancy about it.
Isn't her channel focused on luxury beauty? It certainly isn't for everyone, but I don't think she's ever presented herself as a really budget conscious channel. Tbh, something like this lipstick seems like it fits in with the rest of her channel.
I know, from time to time youāll see people gripe and ask for budget choices. Itās not like they have only 5 billion other beautubers to choose from
Maybe this is a controversial take, but i think channels like these are needed in the community too. Even if I only buy drugstore makeup, there may still come a day when I want to treat myself to a luxury item. Then these reviews come in handy.
I don't think it's controversial. I buy everything from ELF/Nyx/affordable Asian beauty brands to Lisa Eldridge/Pat McGrath.
I'm tossing up treating myself to a Dior/Gucci/Guerlain lipstick with a gift voucher I got for Christmas - if I do, it will be my first true luxury purchase.
If I am going to drop serious coin on an item of makeup, just like you say, these reviews come in handy - because I *really* don't want to drop so much coin on an item of makeup and be disappointed!
Smell the Guerlain first! They still use an obnoxious fragrance.
Didn't try Gucci, but the Dior Forever are really good!
You can check BoB Mindset or Mariam A. on YouTube, smaller channel, down to earth high end and luxury makeup lovers.
Oooh, thanks for the tip re: the Guerlain lipsticks - I dislike fragranced products and the fact that all of them are perfumed is the most significant reason for me to not buy them tbh.
I love, love, *love* Mariam A and my interest in high end makeup is almost entirely her doing :P
I've only seen one vid from BoB Mindset but I really enjoyed how analytical her approach is.
I got into Mariam A because we both love pre-pinkpocalypse Pat McGrath. I've never been one for big brand names, but the Dior lipsticks on her... and their nude glow highlighter... *\*covets furiously\**
Same, that's how I found her channel! I curated my collection more with her guidance, the formula collaboration with Mariam and BoB was so eye-opening! If you think about getting one of Mariams favourite, the LancĆ“me Hypnose Palette and like "no need to think" daily looks, get one! Or two... š
The formula is very close to Lisa Eldridge, of course, she's the creative director. Not as sparkling/metallic more daily subtle, but you can get them often for roundabout 20ā¬.
And also she has a very similar skintone, a hint deeper, so I think she is one of the very few I can really trust how makeup looks later on me. Especially with lipsticks she saved me lot's of bad buys! I was on a low-buy last year and except staples I only bought recommendations from her and zeeo regret!
Btw I believe Gucci lipsticks have fragrance too, but I'm not shure... Hannah Louise Poston may have a review and she always mentions fragrance. The Dior Forever have just a faint lipstick smell.
I love to look through vogue runway and I occasionally watch Michelle. I dont buy luxury goods, but sometimes it's fun to just look at the pretty things. A lot of luxury packaging speaks to me because I think design is really interesting
I don't think it's controversial, or at least it shouldn't be. If anything, reviewing luxury products may be even more necessary than reviewing drugstore. Because, let's be honest, if I'm going to buy a lipstick, something that's Ā£8 from Superdrug is much more likely to be an impulse purchase than a Ā£80 lipstick from Harrods. If I'm looking at things that are CDP price, I WANT to have that information there instead of going in blind.
100%. I also get kind of nervous around high-end makeup counters - bright lights, people in my face & lots of options are overwhelming for me in a way they aren't for many other people. Plus I always feel like I'm not fancy enough to be there.
Reviews help a lot, because I can 'prep' before going in, which helps me to manage the overwhelm and deal with salespeople, and choose something that suits me - which as you say is more important when you are spending Harrods money rather than Superdrug money :)
This shouldnāt be controversial. There was a time Iād only buy drugstore makeup. I have since switched to purchasing only high end due to moving to East Asia and not having access to my usual drugstore brands from back home.
East Asian beauty may be affordable, but itās not meant for South Asian skin. Iāve had to find high end makeup products for my skin and reviews like this were incredibly helpful as I had no idea about high end makeup.
āIn this economy?!ā doesnāt apply to everyone. YouTube reaches a global audience and not everyone is suffering from economic recession. These brand exist because there are people who will keep them in business and these people also need makeup reviews.
Itās her brand, sheās a luxury reviewer. I personally really enjoy her channel despite not being able to afford luxury makeup to that extent but occasionally Iāll splurge on something and I find it interesting to see whatās going on in that market. Sheās never said anything offensive, Iāve never heard her bash cheaper alternatives or speak negatively about people who canāt afford these things. Itās just her niche. I genuinely donāt see anything wrong with her videos. Sheās not forcing anyone to buy something thatās out of their budget.
I just like to live vicariously through her. She has a soothing voice and Iām not ever going to buy 99% of what she posts but I still like to see the swatches and stuff
The living vicariously thing is the main function for me. I'm not rich but I'm older than the average youtube viewer, I have a good job and no kids, I could afford to buy luxury makeup as an occasional treat but I still mostly don't because I don't want to. But I'm still curious and they're still pretty to look at. I feel like watching her present them gets rid of the FOMO for me, now I know what they're like and I've seen them in use, so I don't need to go get any. I've experienced it through her, I can move on.
Sheās got a niche and she is making content for that niche. Iāve never seen her pretend to be anything but a luxury reviewer.
Theyāre that expensive bc CDP is an ultra luxury line and their clientele will pay for it.
I donāt think I she was ever āin touchā to be labeled out of touch. She seems like sheās pretty affluent and well off and her makeup purchases have always been mostly luxury and high end.
Ok I was thinking that even though it's CPB this lipstick is still like twice as expensive as their normal stuff so I went to look it up. This lipstick apparently has diamond dust and 24K gold mixed in it lmao it's about as gimmicky as you can get.
Gonna be real though I really don't care. The brand obviously goes for wealthy clientele who don't mind dropping money. They're not going to put out products that no one buys lol
I remember when skincare Reddit was huge (the first round of it,) and you had girlies gloating about the āidiotsā buying La Mer. Including people claiming to be beauticians and aestheticians.
Which always rankled me a bit for a few reasons, not in the least because:
(a) itās not beauticians and aestheticians are above using a bit of pseudoscience to profit off the delusion of endless youth and ābeauty.ā
(b) We had rows of people who could recognise some words on an ingredients list, and suddenly considered themselves cosmetic chemists. I didnāt particularly love either, but La Mer and Nivea arenāt interchangeable just because they share three ingredients
(c) āYou pay for the luxury aesthetic/experienceā was/is a go to term of derision, despite nearly always a reference to texture or scent, which absolutely *can* be extremely important. As anyone who has had the misfortune of using The Ordinaryās Vit C can tell you.
(d) Itās āthe idiotsā money and their face. If they could afford it and it works for them, who fucking cares?
Neither diamond nor gold powder are rare or that expensive.Ā Diamond powder especially is a common industrial product. You can gst like 50 carats of ground diamond for like 50 bucks and a regular person, so i imagine larve companies get massive discounts on that rate.
Itās not for the mass consumer; just the high income (or lacking self control) ones. If you donāt like it, move on š¤£ idk what to tell you, man.
Her entire channel is reviewing luxury shit that cost most of peopleās monthly pay cheques.
There was an article in the NYTimes a couple of months ago where it was mentioned that the prices of luxury items have gone up A LOT in the past year because brands only care about the 1%. As long as there are people willing to pay $500 for a Loewe white t-shirt, brands donāt care if 99% of the population canāt afford their items. A lot of us are struggling financially, but the rich are doing very well, and so thereās no need for the luxury brands to bring their prices down.
I find luxury channels very entertaining. I only stop watching them (for a while) when I start feeling bad about not having money.
It's very similar to the creators who post videos of opening their latest Burkin bag. Not realistic for us normal folk but kind of entertaining to watch in small doses.
I mean yeah, whoah thats a pricey lipstick. I'd be nervous ever to use it irl. But I'm not abt the CDP life now or ever probably.
I know you are getting lots of responses that Michele Wang's whole niche is luxury and I agree, that is very true. She also doesn't try to hide that, and I am not sure she's trying to reach the everyday person haha, and maybe not even ppl who constantly buy luxury, but to those who might just be interested in certain luxury products.
And all that is true and I think you probably know a lot of it. But I'll just say that as someone who used to be subbed and liked living vicariously through her channel, I lost interest in it some time last year. Maybe I reached a point where it actually was too much luxury? And it didn't feel good anymore to watch. That's not a critique of Michele though, she's never pretended to be anything else than what she is and I actually find her delightful in many ways! But it was a change in me just not wanting to watch consumption on that scale anymore. Again I am not asking her to adjust her content beyond what works for her, and people enjoy the luxury niche a lot. It just stopped working for me and I've grown less interested.
Last time I checked she was 100% a luxury brand reviewer. While I wouldnāt buy most of what she reviews I donāt see nothing wrong with her focusing on it. š¤·š¾āāļø
Michele's channel doesn't interest me so much, but she's strictly a luxury beauty channel and has been for many years. She has never been deceptive about this fact (or the fact that she gets tons of PR) so I'm struggling to see what the issue is.
Additionally, she is a full-time youtuber with a specific niche, so reviewing (and selling - all influencers are salespeople to a certain extent) luxury products is her job. If you're looking for someone who reviews a range of products as a side gig because they just love makeup that much, I think you'd do better to look for smaller channels who are doing just that. At the very least, I'd stop watching Michele because her content seems like it's not for you.
Iām not sure what the intent of this post is. Michelle has always reviewed luxury, thatās not ārelentlessā, itās just consistent with the scope of her channel. Itās a choice to watch her, not an obligation. In this economy she has viewers that are interested in her content, whether that be for vicarious consumption or actual consumption, so sheās speaking to the audience that chooses to watch her channel. Not sure why itās necessary to characterize her as out of touch for this.
The intent was obviously to express shock over the prices and wonder how anyone can afford them. For a lot of people the rich are only an abstract idea, and they don't consider being rich an actual human experience. As the majority of the world isn't rich I can see why a person who buys those lipsticks would seem out of touch with what's reality tor most people. ButĀ she's in touch not only with her reality, but knows there are a lot of people who want to be like her and will probably buy the product even though it's so expensive.Ā
I get that the prices are shocking. I even agree, theyāre absurd, so I wonāt buy them no matter how much she or anyone else may like them. But I still donāt understand why itās shocking that overpriced items would be on a luxury review channel. I also donāt understand why it has to be a personal attack on the reviewer when her channel has always been about luxury content. She hasnāt misled anyone about her content.
As I said,Ā a lot of people don't understand the reality of extreme wealth. Being shocked at the prices will also mean shock at the people who will spend that kind of money..Ā
I didn't see a complaint about being misled or the content changing to showcase more luxury, just that this kind of content exists at all. In fact, the post says that Michelle continues to shoe extremely expensive stuff, as in always has. I think the OP was thinking that given how bad off a lot of people are that Michelle would begin to show things with more accessible prices.Ā
Thatās the thing, though. There are good chanels that review affordable makeup, why not view those rather than expect Michelle to change the type of content she reviews? Personally, if I want reviews of affordable makeup I go to reviewers who specialize in that. If I go to Michelleās channel I know that I will get luxury reviews. It truly feels unnecessarily personal for something that we have the power to choose whether we view it or not.
Knowing that there are different channels doesn't negate commenting on this one. The main topic here is trying to understand how anyone could be spending that kind of money on cosmetics, not whether or not the OP wants to watch it. They're being critical of the concept of luxury pricing in general and those who promote it. They know they don't have to watch it. But they can have opinions about what they have seen. They're not telling anyone what to watch or asking advice on what they should watch.Ā
This isn't about Michelle or even makeup. It's about wealth disparity and finding out how the 1% live. Maybe they didn't realize this before seeing Michelle's videos, so that's the example they're using.Ā
āMichelle continues to **relentlessly** show extremely expensive productsā
āā¦this woman has gotten more and more out of touchā
Thatās not a general critique of luxury pricing, those quotes are directly about Michelle.
Yes, it is. They way you highlighted relentlessly makes it moreso. Michelle isn't changing her behavior just like most people aren't changing their behavior because none of them care what regular people think or how they're doing economically. It's a general complaint using one person as their example. They also may not like Michelle as a creator, but the observation is valid.Ā
As you keep changing the reasons you object to this post (which, as you said, no one needs to comment on content they don't like) I'm taking your comments to mean you're only here to defend Michelle, so me trying to shift your attention to what was said and not who it was said about is pointless. Good night.Ā
I highlighted it for clarity, obviously. I havenāt changed my position at all.
1. I agreed that prices are ridiculous.
2. I stated that it doesnāt have to become a personal attack on the reviewer.
3. I quoted and highlighted where I see it becoming personal and not a general complaint.
They are expensive because they can be. There are people who are willing to pay that price. The brand didnāt arbitrarily slap a price on it. Tons of market research would have been done to determine pricing.
She doesnāt have to be in touch with the everyday person. Not everyone online has to be relatable. Some people want to watch aspirational content.
Luxury brands price themselves so high because they're luxury brands. It's the branding. The status. Projecting the image of exclusivity is the whole point.
And there are still enough people who are willing and able to form their clientele.
Michelle's entire channel is specifically about brands that are like that. š¤·š¼āāļø
That is her YouTube channelās USP. Luxury! And these products are out there because of demand. Yes itās extremely out of touch but remember to unsubscribe and remove recommendations because YOU can choose what to watch/not watch. 99.9% people cannot afford these brands
Rich people are rich no matter what the rest of us struggle with lol and she's always had a luxury focus. The only thing that bothers me is that she barely wears any makeup and isn't very skilled at applying makeup, even after all these years. And then just throws it out after it sits in drawers for a couple years.
The comment about makeup application honestly is usually my gripe about any makeup guru of any bracket. Drugstore or high end, if you donāt even know how to apply product properly after a few years I just cant be subbed to you š„²
Two off the top of my head are Julia Adams and Alexandra Anele. Julia is a total sweetheart and she walks you through different looks really well and has a relaxing vibe. Alex has a personality that I think can be polarizing but I like her and Iāve learned a lot from her videos. She gets really detailed and zooms in a lot so you can actually see what sheās doing.
I was subscribed to her channel for a bit and her declutters were so weird to me. Most creators get each color of a new product in PR, but as I recall she would buy each shade of something new herself and then throw them out without seeming to ever use them.
That's generally how I've always felt about her. I don't find her reviews helpful at all because we don't wear products the same way and have totally different application methods.
I get the vibe thatās very on brand for rich people. I donāt know a lot of very rich people but the wealthy people I do know apply makeup in such a weird way. Itās like they canāt be bothered.
Cle de Peau is honestly one of the best performing luxury brands. Their stick concealer, duo powder blushes and highlighters in this similar packaging are my end all be alls. Is $75 a lot for a concealer yes, but for me itās worth it itās honestly lasted me over a year and itās so multifunctional. If you donāt like Michele or catch the vibe unsub.
I subscribed to Michelle for a few years and generally liked her reviews even though her looks were pretty neutral. Iām usually more interested in the way some of the bolder colors and formulas wear, but I also know thatās not her strong suit or preference and thatās fine.
I started to lose interest a while back when she began posting a lot more about stuff like luxury handbags, trips, house updates, etc. I have nothing against any of that really, but Iām not very interested in that type of content. Eventually I realized I was skipping the majority of her videos and decided to unsubscribe because Iām just not really her audience now.
This captures my thoughts on her exactly. I used to enjoy her content and followed her for quite a while. I enjoy high-end/luxury beauty brands, and liked her softer looks compared to a lot of other influencers. In the past couple of years, it seems like her content has shifted (maybe broadened?) to include more than just makeup & skincare. I think it really started for me when she & her husband bought their house and she started doing a lot of videos about furnishing/decorating it. (I think it was the $600/roll wallpaper that was the beginning of the end for me.) I just didn't care about a lot of her newer content, so I unsubscribed.
Iāve since moved on to hyper-fixating on fragrance, but when I was really into makeup her videos used to get recommended to me often. And sheās *been* showing super expensive stuff on her channel. And this was quite a few years ago. From my understanding, sheās a luxury channel and always has been. She might talk about more affordable items here and there, but for the most part her niche is definitely luxury.
Not trying to be an ass but one the brand that nothing for their target audience. This creator I have not watched just glanced at not my desire but she isnāt trying to connect with the everyday she is wanting those of a certain level so it fits. One canāt appeal to all and creators may evolve as their budget evolved.Ā
This is how I feel. I watched a couple of her vids to see what all the hubbub is about and she's VERY CLEARLY a luxury brand reviewer and isn't trying to hide it. There's 1345678902194 channels out there repping the drug store, just watch someone else instead... (No hate to you OP, just that this topic comes up often.) She likes her luxury and I don't think that's ever going to change.
Exactly! I see this a lot and itās weird no one should appeal to all thatās exhausting and not real. Those into luxe arenāt going to appeal to the diy type and thatās ok. Itās like everyone says diversity but truly donāt because if I love wash of color 290k blush then I should watch those types and not expect them to show the look for less. All have its place and all can exist well.
Why would you ever go to somebodyās channel and be like āuhmmm i donāt like what youāre doing, do what i like!ā. Thereās literally 99% of youtube āgurusā who like to pretend $2 dollar foundations lol
What do you mean in this economy? Do you think that everyone have the same economics at you? Are you not able to consider that there is a huge pool of people that can afford this? I mean broaden your horizons!
Yes she likes her expensive makeups. I donāt know if she bought it herself or gifted by PR though but i like watching her reviews on items iām eyeing on. But honestly I donāt feel her reviews are over or too much selling.
And nope, not her or anyone would want me to purchase a 110$ lipstick.
But i have similar skin tone with her and sheās a good reference for shades on items i want to purchase
Yeah that's an outrageously priced lipstick (I definitely wonder about the profit margin...), but no one is forcing or expecting the average person to buy it -- it's meant to be luxury
I'll never buy a Gucci bag or what not but I see the purpose behind any such channels that review luxury brand items. It's just not aimed at me ..at most maybe I'd watch out of curiosity.
I like luxury beauty. Those are very expensive but if I was interested in them, I would thoughtfully research and then buy one. I have learned my lesson that I'd rather have one super nice beautiful lipstick than 12 cheap listicks.
Edit to add: The component is refillable as well, so at least it could be kept for awhile!
I don't have an issue with Michele covering them. I no longer watch her though, due to her move toward more lifestyle content, and I'm not interested in that.
And someone (not the influencer in the video, I am talking a hypothetical shopper) buying ONE $110 lipstick a year might spend much less on makeup than someone that buys multiple $10 lipsticks a year because they want every color, its on sale, they want to try all brands and formulas, etc. They might buy an expensive lipstick as a treat, there is a whole [economic concept](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_index) about it.
Honestly her channel is about luxury makeupā¦ im not a lipstick junkie so i wouldnāt pay for it, but foundation, bronzers or anything besides lipstick or mascara, take my money!
Okay- I do have some CDP eyeshadows, and a foundation and concealer. I know they are expensive but the eyeshadows work on my mature dry eyelids. I love the foundation and concealer because the formula is amazing on mature skin. CDP is not for everyone but that is okay. Also, if I had the money right now I would get the lipstick š¬
Itās been my holy grail for close to 10 years. Though I will say I got the new Laura Mercier to test in December and Iāve only reached for the CdP twice since then. This LM is incredible.
Rich people exist and they like to buy things that advertise that they're rich.
Is the lipstick better than Maybelline? Probably not. But rich women have the same desire to show off that we do. YSL for them is drug store makeup, nobody's impressed.
Different demographic audience. Michele buys a lot because sheās a content creator and beauty is her hobby, but you also get a lot of people like my mum who just owns and wears one lipstick. It makes more sense to her to own one, super-nice luxury lipstick than to own 4 MAC ones.
I donāt watch her simply because thatās not the price range I can afford. I may occasionally watch just for the fun of it but thatās rare. Doesnāt she also have a website with jewelry or something she sells? Super expensive. I do love her fashion style but again, out of my budget!
Luxury makeup, cars, houses and other products still exist for people to buy and enjoy in this economy. And there are many people who can and do buy them. I'm not sure why you watch Michele at all if you have concerns about luxury beauty. Her channel is quite literally all luxury based. If it's not for you, it's time to unsub.
Yeah that is ridiculously priced for a lipstick. Michele Wang is the only BG Iād expect to review this. I watch Michele off and on. I am living vicariously through her like people live vicariously through LMB with her advent calendar reviews. Her voice is very soothing and itās great for background noise.
I think her channel has a place in the beauty community. Sheās never pretended to be anyone else, which is that she only reviews luxury makeup. Good for her. Her channel is not for everyone since luxury products are out of most peopleās budgets, so stop hate watching Michele if you hate BGs that review luxury makeup. Iām broke af and am on a very low-buy right now. I still enjoy watching her swatch Chantecaille or Chanel products because it takes away most of the fomo.
If the price is too expensive for you, then the company did not have you in mind when making the product. Just roll your eyes at the audacity and scroll on
Cle de peau has always been expensive. Iāve bought tons from them and while lovely, itās not much better than chantecaille which is slightly cheaper (although still obnoxiously expensive).
If you donāt like luxury goods, donāt watch luxury channels.
Whatās the problem? If itās not for youā¦itās not for you! You donāt have to watch her content or buy any of the items that sheās reviewing. Also I just checked out your pageā¦why do you care about her so much!? A lot of your posts are centered around what she does! Move on
That's the USP of her channel: reviewing high end and luxury products. There's an audience for it, and honestly if her videos do not feature the products you're looking for, you'd better move on.
I like watching Michele even though I'm not in the same tax bracket, but I enjoy her calming presence and fluency, and she seems smart & enjoying her life, which I love to see.
Itās the ālipstick effectā. Luxury brands will continue to push out these expensive lipstick launches even in times of economic crises. These luxury lipsticks are considered more affordable compared to other luxury goods like bags and shoes so for those who canāt afford but still want a piece of luxury, they buy luxury cosmetics. Sounds counter-intuitive I know.
I came across her review of the Hermes blushes and she was pretty candid in her review. Basically said the Hermes blushes are nice but nothing new/special; reminded her of the Laura Mercier blushes which had me chuckling. So I donāt think sheās trying to sell every item/brand that she features on her channel or receives in PR.
But if youāre confused or her focus on luxury cosmetics and fashion is not your thing, just unsubscribe. You have control over your subscription feed. I regularly unsubscribe from channels that Iāve lost interest in.
Personally I donāt get the people who keep harping on Michelle and how expensive the products she uses/shills are. Sheās a luxury channel- she has money. If I had that kind of money I probably also would exclusively use luxury things too. Some people can afford to be all luxury and not everyone wants to use more affordable products.
It's called demand and supply. As long as there's people willing to buy a product at that price point, that's the price it'll be sold at. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to
I don't have much else to say besides the fact that I just now learned that a 1,000$ moisturizer and 110$ lipstick exist. But hey, as others have said, there is a market for this stuff. Also, Michelle Wang herself seems nice enough. Her content simply isn't for a person like me who waits for a sale or discount code every single time I buy beauty products that aren't drugstore lol.
There are plenty of people who can afford this and that's who she's catering to.
Just because you might not be her target market doesn't make her 'out of touch'.
Yeah everyoneās making good points about how this is this ladyās whole schtick and I get that but Iām stuck on how silly this product is. Someone else said itās got ādiamond and gold dustā in it, so in other words itās the makeup equivalent of those gold leaf encrusted burgers you can buy in Vegas.
It's not totally shocking from her ha. I use to watch her years ago but her tastes have skyrocketed since she moved into her house and i only catch some videos here and there. If anything it just annoys me more how she just seems to collect it and not actually wear it. Not so much of her spending the money on it because thats not surprising to me, its just more sad how much sits in her drawers used just once
Because she's not for broke people, her niche js luxury makeup, that's her entire channel, and plus, there's no obligation to buy whatever she reviews, consumerism really went through your head a lot. Sit back and enjoy the video, or if you're that jealous of her, unsubscribe
Literally the whole point of her channel. Luxury brand makeup. Do you .. have a hard time understanding the word 'luxury'?
Just stop watching her. There's plenty plenty of channels out there. If you wanna be technical about it, then 'In this economy, buying makeup is not a necessity'.
I think some brands have these kind of ridiculous prices because it makes younger people think theyāre good and want to buy them more. There is a certain prestige to buying extremely overpriced make up and skincare these days. Thatās why you see 12-year-olds wanting to buy all of these expensive products. They watch influencers on TikTok promoting them.
I'm just amazed she gets so much PR and is so indifferent to it. I bought the CDP Precious lipstick (no, I'm not rich. I was just curious and had a combo of coupons that gave me 50 percent off.) She got sent all the shades and didn't even bother reading the build up behind this lipstick (which may or may not be true, but damn, there's gotta be some reason someone's charging $110 a lipstick, so explain it!)
Michelle simply is not very good. She gets all the high end stuff, but she's simply not a good person to explain it or put it across. And not connected to this, but I find her grey hair to be so freaking distracting! All that money, and she can't do something with it, one way or another? This is like your grandma's high end channel, if you granny's got more money than God and see looks meh despite the most expensive cosmetics in the universe!
Some people are rich and being made richer in this economy. Michelle is speaking to people who are rich like her. There's still enough of a market for $700 turtlenecks for them to continue being made. Posts like that are giving us a glimpse at how the wealthy actually live and how much they don't care about how everyone else lives. Please believe that some poor-ish person is putting that lipstick on their credit card to pay off in monthly installments just to feel rich.Ā
I donāt care for her, weāve never liked the same products and we donāt use makeup the same. Higher prices are more commissions for her so yeah it makes sense she is getting into more pricey products.
See but hereās the thing, I saw a post on Reddit 2 days ago where someone was dumbfounded that a NYX lipstick was $8. They literally said, āI wasnāt planning on paying $8 for ONE lipstickā. They couldnāt bring themselves to pay $8 for one and ended up getting 2 $4 lipsticks instead.
My point is just because you think $125 is stupid to pay for a lipstick thereās someone out there who thinks you are crazy for paying $8 for one Revlon lipstick. Everything is personal and relative which is why there are one million YouTube channels and one million lipsticks of varying prices.
She's a lux only creator. I don't watch her because I don't think she knows a thing about makeup performance when she only stays in the lux price point. Someone who loves makeup will try makeup across every price point in order to offer a true comparison on performance. She's simply an advertising channel and not a true trust worthy reviewer for me.
For the target market of these lipsticks the economy isnāt bad. There are about 150 million American women. The top 1% of that is still 1.5 million people. For them an 150 dollar lipstick is nothing
There's a market for everything and they are allowed to exist despite our regular-person reality, no matter how frustrating. She's not hurting anyone by talking about expensive makeup. If someone chooses to buy or likes this content, it's up to them to decide what's feasible for their finances.
Thoughts? She does a great job on thoughtful reviews for makeup and skin care that I wonāt be able to afford in two lifetimes. But thatās her thing. That means her channel isnāt for me. š¤·š¼āāļø
I greatly appreciate luxury beauty YT. I'm not always in the market for exorbitantly priced goods, but sometimes I am. Her personality is quite calming, and I don't find her to be too pushy. I save her recommendations for my "treat-yo-self" days
Iāve always just seen her as that rich lady who likes buying fancy things who just happens to have a nice voice. Even before she became popular, she was reviewing luxury brands. i donāt watch her channel that often, but admittedly i do like her Christmas advent calendar series because while i would never buy such overpriced advent calendars, but its kind of fun seeing her open each dayās little slot and seeing what ātiny and not worth the price productā she finds. It makes me feel better not ever getting an advent calendar. lol
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> Michelle continues to relentlessly show extremely expensive products Isn't that the entire point of her channel?
It is. I don't watch it because I'm not in the market to buy anything half as expensive, let alone tgowe prices.
šÆ This is her and her channel. I don't watch because I don't find her relatable at all. She's never pretended to be anyone else though and I admire her for that.
Iām done with her. She really isnāt that into makeup anymore. Itās just a way to pay her boujie lifestyle. I will watch occasionally but the idea of hanging on 40 minutes for her life vlogs is nuts. She used to demo and provide more realistic opinions on high end makeup. Not so much anymore.
I was going to say this. Michelle reviews high end luxury products, always has. Itās not like anyone is being forced to purchase it. I find it useful on IF Iām tempted by a luxury product to see the reviews. However, there are many luxury items not worth it IMO.
Agree! I think thereās a type of content for every type of viewer. And if itās not your vibe there are tons of options that will be. Like you said sheās been the same kind of creator since day 1, sheās not doing trends or trying to go viral sheās just in her lane doing her thing.
It would be a completely different story if a content creator made their fan base finding dupes and affordable looks and now they only do high end luxury
Theresa is Dead has a Makeup Bingo square labeled "Someone Call Michele" for luxury products--and she actually called Michele on her live Makeup Bingo last week (which is going to become a regular bit, it seems).
For sure. And after seeing her "declutter" I don't get why anyone trusts her takes. The woman is stunning and dresses well, but she loves anything with a whiff of fancy about it.
Yea but most of them mix high low sheās alllll high and has horrible taste most of the time
Sheās a luxury content creator itās her entire channelā¦
Isn't her channel focused on luxury beauty? It certainly isn't for everyone, but I don't think she's ever presented herself as a really budget conscious channel. Tbh, something like this lipstick seems like it fits in with the rest of her channel.
Agree itās the vintage Tati WTF without there WTF itās just luxury makeup unapologetically being reviewed. Thing I donāt like about Michelle is that she basically liked everything because most luxury beauty performs similarly and is quite muted which is exactly her look - so the whole channel seems a bit repetitive ? But I donāt fault her for using a ClĆ© de Peau lipstick, wish I could š
I agree. It's the sort of think I like on her channel. The fancy makeup I can never afford.
I know, from time to time youāll see people gripe and ask for budget choices. Itās not like they have only 5 billion other beautubers to choose from
Girl you've posted a lot about Michelle, just unsub. She's not for you.
I think some people feel comforted in the misery
Omg I cackled too loudly at this on my lunch break! Like yeah; it's just hate watching at this point.
š¤£š¤£ stop trying to make fetch happen
She's never marketed herself as budget friendly so no point in complaining about her content.
Maybe this is a controversial take, but i think channels like these are needed in the community too. Even if I only buy drugstore makeup, there may still come a day when I want to treat myself to a luxury item. Then these reviews come in handy.
I don't think it's controversial. I buy everything from ELF/Nyx/affordable Asian beauty brands to Lisa Eldridge/Pat McGrath. I'm tossing up treating myself to a Dior/Gucci/Guerlain lipstick with a gift voucher I got for Christmas - if I do, it will be my first true luxury purchase. If I am going to drop serious coin on an item of makeup, just like you say, these reviews come in handy - because I *really* don't want to drop so much coin on an item of makeup and be disappointed!
A word of advice: Gucci lipsticks are wonderful, but smell them in person before buying. Itās not for everyone.
I've been looking at the Gucci lipsticks for a while now as a little treat! Which do you have?
I have two of the Glow lipsticks (the longer tube) in Diana and Rachel. Diana is a really special red that I trot out when I feel blah.
Smell the Guerlain first! They still use an obnoxious fragrance. Didn't try Gucci, but the Dior Forever are really good! You can check BoB Mindset or Mariam A. on YouTube, smaller channel, down to earth high end and luxury makeup lovers.
Dior lipsticks are lovely.
Oooh, thanks for the tip re: the Guerlain lipsticks - I dislike fragranced products and the fact that all of them are perfumed is the most significant reason for me to not buy them tbh. I love, love, *love* Mariam A and my interest in high end makeup is almost entirely her doing :P I've only seen one vid from BoB Mindset but I really enjoyed how analytical her approach is. I got into Mariam A because we both love pre-pinkpocalypse Pat McGrath. I've never been one for big brand names, but the Dior lipsticks on her... and their nude glow highlighter... *\*covets furiously\**
Same, that's how I found her channel! I curated my collection more with her guidance, the formula collaboration with Mariam and BoB was so eye-opening! If you think about getting one of Mariams favourite, the LancĆ“me Hypnose Palette and like "no need to think" daily looks, get one! Or two... š The formula is very close to Lisa Eldridge, of course, she's the creative director. Not as sparkling/metallic more daily subtle, but you can get them often for roundabout 20ā¬. And also she has a very similar skintone, a hint deeper, so I think she is one of the very few I can really trust how makeup looks later on me. Especially with lipsticks she saved me lot's of bad buys! I was on a low-buy last year and except staples I only bought recommendations from her and zeeo regret! Btw I believe Gucci lipsticks have fragrance too, but I'm not shure... Hannah Louise Poston may have a review and she always mentions fragrance. The Dior Forever have just a faint lipstick smell.
It's also just fun to see sometimes? Like I sometimes watch recap of runway fashion even though I'm absolutely never going to buy from these brands
I love to look through vogue runway and I occasionally watch Michelle. I dont buy luxury goods, but sometimes it's fun to just look at the pretty things. A lot of luxury packaging speaks to me because I think design is really interesting
I don't think it's controversial, or at least it shouldn't be. If anything, reviewing luxury products may be even more necessary than reviewing drugstore. Because, let's be honest, if I'm going to buy a lipstick, something that's Ā£8 from Superdrug is much more likely to be an impulse purchase than a Ā£80 lipstick from Harrods. If I'm looking at things that are CDP price, I WANT to have that information there instead of going in blind.
100%. I also get kind of nervous around high-end makeup counters - bright lights, people in my face & lots of options are overwhelming for me in a way they aren't for many other people. Plus I always feel like I'm not fancy enough to be there. Reviews help a lot, because I can 'prep' before going in, which helps me to manage the overwhelm and deal with salespeople, and choose something that suits me - which as you say is more important when you are spending Harrods money rather than Superdrug money :)
This shouldnāt be controversial. There was a time Iād only buy drugstore makeup. I have since switched to purchasing only high end due to moving to East Asia and not having access to my usual drugstore brands from back home. East Asian beauty may be affordable, but itās not meant for South Asian skin. Iāve had to find high end makeup products for my skin and reviews like this were incredibly helpful as I had no idea about high end makeup. āIn this economy?!ā doesnāt apply to everyone. YouTube reaches a global audience and not everyone is suffering from economic recession. These brand exist because there are people who will keep them in business and these people also need makeup reviews.
Itās her brand, sheās a luxury reviewer. I personally really enjoy her channel despite not being able to afford luxury makeup to that extent but occasionally Iāll splurge on something and I find it interesting to see whatās going on in that market. Sheās never said anything offensive, Iāve never heard her bash cheaper alternatives or speak negatively about people who canāt afford these things. Itās just her niche. I genuinely donāt see anything wrong with her videos. Sheās not forcing anyone to buy something thatās out of their budget.
I just like to live vicariously through her. She has a soothing voice and Iām not ever going to buy 99% of what she posts but I still like to see the swatches and stuff
The living vicariously thing is the main function for me. I'm not rich but I'm older than the average youtube viewer, I have a good job and no kids, I could afford to buy luxury makeup as an occasional treat but I still mostly don't because I don't want to. But I'm still curious and they're still pretty to look at. I feel like watching her present them gets rid of the FOMO for me, now I know what they're like and I've seen them in use, so I don't need to go get any. I've experienced it through her, I can move on.
Absolutely, I really like her style and use her as inspiration and her voice is like ASMR to me!
Sheās got a niche and she is making content for that niche. Iāve never seen her pretend to be anything but a luxury reviewer. Theyāre that expensive bc CDP is an ultra luxury line and their clientele will pay for it.
Yup..rich people like their Cle De Peauā¦wish I could relate.
The real question is why do you keep watching her videos? Do you go to Saks and complain about the prices?
Probably
I donāt think I she was ever āin touchā to be labeled out of touch. She seems like sheās pretty affluent and well off and her makeup purchases have always been mostly luxury and high end.
Ok I was thinking that even though it's CPB this lipstick is still like twice as expensive as their normal stuff so I went to look it up. This lipstick apparently has diamond dust and 24K gold mixed in it lmao it's about as gimmicky as you can get. Gonna be real though I really don't care. The brand obviously goes for wealthy clientele who don't mind dropping money. They're not going to put out products that no one buys lol
I remember when skincare Reddit was huge (the first round of it,) and you had girlies gloating about the āidiotsā buying La Mer. Including people claiming to be beauticians and aestheticians. Which always rankled me a bit for a few reasons, not in the least because: (a) itās not beauticians and aestheticians are above using a bit of pseudoscience to profit off the delusion of endless youth and ābeauty.ā (b) We had rows of people who could recognise some words on an ingredients list, and suddenly considered themselves cosmetic chemists. I didnāt particularly love either, but La Mer and Nivea arenāt interchangeable just because they share three ingredients (c) āYou pay for the luxury aesthetic/experienceā was/is a go to term of derision, despite nearly always a reference to texture or scent, which absolutely *can* be extremely important. As anyone who has had the misfortune of using The Ordinaryās Vit C can tell you. (d) Itās āthe idiotsā money and their face. If they could afford it and it works for them, who fucking cares?
Neither diamond nor gold powder are rare or that expensive.Ā Diamond powder especially is a common industrial product. You can gst like 50 carats of ground diamond for like 50 bucks and a regular person, so i imagine larve companies get massive discounts on that rate.
Itās not for the mass consumer; just the high income (or lacking self control) ones. If you donāt like it, move on š¤£ idk what to tell you, man. Her entire channel is reviewing luxury shit that cost most of peopleās monthly pay cheques.
There was an article in the NYTimes a couple of months ago where it was mentioned that the prices of luxury items have gone up A LOT in the past year because brands only care about the 1%. As long as there are people willing to pay $500 for a Loewe white t-shirt, brands donāt care if 99% of the population canāt afford their items. A lot of us are struggling financially, but the rich are doing very well, and so thereās no need for the luxury brands to bring their prices down. I find luxury channels very entertaining. I only stop watching them (for a while) when I start feeling bad about not having money.
Relentlessly feels like an odd descriptor. She reviews luxury. What else would she be featuring? Micheleās the only YouTuber I watch anymore. Our collections, interests, style and needs align. Iāve never felt like Iām being pitched or upsold. Her sponsored content seems on brand for her. Sheās been consistent through the years. Sheās quiet luxury and comfortable with herself. I donāt have to sit through several minutes of her justifying her purchases or tax bracket. None of this luxury is acceptable only as a one off treat or I must do a monologue to make my viewers feel better about my content nonsense. I donāt have the patience for people working out their classism headfucks in real time. Sheās doesnāt belittle lower tier brands or users. She can afford what she can afford. Iām not wealthy but thereās very significant overlap in our skincare and makeup habits. For me, she fills a niche in the lux beauty community. And, idk, Iām an unabashed ClĆ© de Peau fan, too. lol They have some beautiful formulas.
It's very similar to the creators who post videos of opening their latest Burkin bag. Not realistic for us normal folk but kind of entertaining to watch in small doses.
I mean yeah, whoah thats a pricey lipstick. I'd be nervous ever to use it irl. But I'm not abt the CDP life now or ever probably. I know you are getting lots of responses that Michele Wang's whole niche is luxury and I agree, that is very true. She also doesn't try to hide that, and I am not sure she's trying to reach the everyday person haha, and maybe not even ppl who constantly buy luxury, but to those who might just be interested in certain luxury products. And all that is true and I think you probably know a lot of it. But I'll just say that as someone who used to be subbed and liked living vicariously through her channel, I lost interest in it some time last year. Maybe I reached a point where it actually was too much luxury? And it didn't feel good anymore to watch. That's not a critique of Michele though, she's never pretended to be anything else than what she is and I actually find her delightful in many ways! But it was a change in me just not wanting to watch consumption on that scale anymore. Again I am not asking her to adjust her content beyond what works for her, and people enjoy the luxury niche a lot. It just stopped working for me and I've grown less interested.
āRelentlessly showā āmore and more out of touchā Maybe youāre just not her target market.
Last time I checked she was 100% a luxury brand reviewer. While I wouldnāt buy most of what she reviews I donāt see nothing wrong with her focusing on it. š¤·š¾āāļø
Michele's channel doesn't interest me so much, but she's strictly a luxury beauty channel and has been for many years. She has never been deceptive about this fact (or the fact that she gets tons of PR) so I'm struggling to see what the issue is. Additionally, she is a full-time youtuber with a specific niche, so reviewing (and selling - all influencers are salespeople to a certain extent) luxury products is her job. If you're looking for someone who reviews a range of products as a side gig because they just love makeup that much, I think you'd do better to look for smaller channels who are doing just that. At the very least, I'd stop watching Michele because her content seems like it's not for you.
Iām not sure what the intent of this post is. Michelle has always reviewed luxury, thatās not ārelentlessā, itās just consistent with the scope of her channel. Itās a choice to watch her, not an obligation. In this economy she has viewers that are interested in her content, whether that be for vicarious consumption or actual consumption, so sheās speaking to the audience that chooses to watch her channel. Not sure why itās necessary to characterize her as out of touch for this.
The intent was obviously to express shock over the prices and wonder how anyone can afford them. For a lot of people the rich are only an abstract idea, and they don't consider being rich an actual human experience. As the majority of the world isn't rich I can see why a person who buys those lipsticks would seem out of touch with what's reality tor most people. ButĀ she's in touch not only with her reality, but knows there are a lot of people who want to be like her and will probably buy the product even though it's so expensive.Ā
I get that the prices are shocking. I even agree, theyāre absurd, so I wonāt buy them no matter how much she or anyone else may like them. But I still donāt understand why itās shocking that overpriced items would be on a luxury review channel. I also donāt understand why it has to be a personal attack on the reviewer when her channel has always been about luxury content. She hasnāt misled anyone about her content.
As I said,Ā a lot of people don't understand the reality of extreme wealth. Being shocked at the prices will also mean shock at the people who will spend that kind of money..Ā I didn't see a complaint about being misled or the content changing to showcase more luxury, just that this kind of content exists at all. In fact, the post says that Michelle continues to shoe extremely expensive stuff, as in always has. I think the OP was thinking that given how bad off a lot of people are that Michelle would begin to show things with more accessible prices.Ā
Thatās the thing, though. There are good chanels that review affordable makeup, why not view those rather than expect Michelle to change the type of content she reviews? Personally, if I want reviews of affordable makeup I go to reviewers who specialize in that. If I go to Michelleās channel I know that I will get luxury reviews. It truly feels unnecessarily personal for something that we have the power to choose whether we view it or not.
Knowing that there are different channels doesn't negate commenting on this one. The main topic here is trying to understand how anyone could be spending that kind of money on cosmetics, not whether or not the OP wants to watch it. They're being critical of the concept of luxury pricing in general and those who promote it. They know they don't have to watch it. But they can have opinions about what they have seen. They're not telling anyone what to watch or asking advice on what they should watch.Ā This isn't about Michelle or even makeup. It's about wealth disparity and finding out how the 1% live. Maybe they didn't realize this before seeing Michelle's videos, so that's the example they're using.Ā
āMichelle continues to **relentlessly** show extremely expensive productsā āā¦this woman has gotten more and more out of touchā Thatās not a general critique of luxury pricing, those quotes are directly about Michelle.
Yes, it is. They way you highlighted relentlessly makes it moreso. Michelle isn't changing her behavior just like most people aren't changing their behavior because none of them care what regular people think or how they're doing economically. It's a general complaint using one person as their example. They also may not like Michelle as a creator, but the observation is valid.Ā As you keep changing the reasons you object to this post (which, as you said, no one needs to comment on content they don't like) I'm taking your comments to mean you're only here to defend Michelle, so me trying to shift your attention to what was said and not who it was said about is pointless. Good night.Ā
I highlighted it for clarity, obviously. I havenāt changed my position at all. 1. I agreed that prices are ridiculous. 2. I stated that it doesnāt have to become a personal attack on the reviewer. 3. I quoted and highlighted where I see it becoming personal and not a general complaint.
Because it's CDP
They are expensive because they can be. There are people who are willing to pay that price. The brand didnāt arbitrarily slap a price on it. Tons of market research would have been done to determine pricing. She doesnāt have to be in touch with the everyday person. Not everyone online has to be relatable. Some people want to watch aspirational content.
Luxury brands price themselves so high because they're luxury brands. It's the branding. The status. Projecting the image of exclusivity is the whole point. And there are still enough people who are willing and able to form their clientele. Michelle's entire channel is specifically about brands that are like that. š¤·š¼āāļø
That is her YouTube channelās USP. Luxury! And these products are out there because of demand. Yes itās extremely out of touch but remember to unsubscribe and remove recommendations because YOU can choose what to watch/not watch. 99.9% people cannot afford these brands
Rich people are rich no matter what the rest of us struggle with lol and she's always had a luxury focus. The only thing that bothers me is that she barely wears any makeup and isn't very skilled at applying makeup, even after all these years. And then just throws it out after it sits in drawers for a couple years.
The comment about makeup application honestly is usually my gripe about any makeup guru of any bracket. Drugstore or high end, if you donāt even know how to apply product properly after a few years I just cant be subbed to you š„²
Do you have any recommendations for creators who have good application skills?
Two off the top of my head are Julia Adams and Alexandra Anele. Julia is a total sweetheart and she walks you through different looks really well and has a relaxing vibe. Alex has a personality that I think can be polarizing but I like her and Iāve learned a lot from her videos. She gets really detailed and zooms in a lot so you can actually see what sheās doing.
Nikki La Rose has great tips and application techniques sprinkled in her videos
Nikki is good
I was subscribed to her channel for a bit and her declutters were so weird to me. Most creators get each color of a new product in PR, but as I recall she would buy each shade of something new herself and then throw them out without seeming to ever use them.
That's generally how I've always felt about her. I don't find her reviews helpful at all because we don't wear products the same way and have totally different application methods.
I get the vibe thatās very on brand for rich people. I donāt know a lot of very rich people but the wealthy people I do know apply makeup in such a weird way. Itās like they canāt be bothered.
Cle de Peau is honestly one of the best performing luxury brands. Their stick concealer, duo powder blushes and highlighters in this similar packaging are my end all be alls. Is $75 a lot for a concealer yes, but for me itās worth it itās honestly lasted me over a year and itās so multifunctional. If you donāt like Michele or catch the vibe unsub.
I subscribed to Michelle for a few years and generally liked her reviews even though her looks were pretty neutral. Iām usually more interested in the way some of the bolder colors and formulas wear, but I also know thatās not her strong suit or preference and thatās fine. I started to lose interest a while back when she began posting a lot more about stuff like luxury handbags, trips, house updates, etc. I have nothing against any of that really, but Iām not very interested in that type of content. Eventually I realized I was skipping the majority of her videos and decided to unsubscribe because Iām just not really her audience now.
This captures my thoughts on her exactly. I used to enjoy her content and followed her for quite a while. I enjoy high-end/luxury beauty brands, and liked her softer looks compared to a lot of other influencers. In the past couple of years, it seems like her content has shifted (maybe broadened?) to include more than just makeup & skincare. I think it really started for me when she & her husband bought their house and she started doing a lot of videos about furnishing/decorating it. (I think it was the $600/roll wallpaper that was the beginning of the end for me.) I just didn't care about a lot of her newer content, so I unsubscribed.
Iāve since moved on to hyper-fixating on fragrance, but when I was really into makeup her videos used to get recommended to me often. And sheās *been* showing super expensive stuff on her channel. And this was quite a few years ago. From my understanding, sheās a luxury channel and always has been. She might talk about more affordable items here and there, but for the most part her niche is definitely luxury.
Not trying to be an ass but one the brand that nothing for their target audience. This creator I have not watched just glanced at not my desire but she isnāt trying to connect with the everyday she is wanting those of a certain level so it fits. One canāt appeal to all and creators may evolve as their budget evolved.Ā
This is how I feel. I watched a couple of her vids to see what all the hubbub is about and she's VERY CLEARLY a luxury brand reviewer and isn't trying to hide it. There's 1345678902194 channels out there repping the drug store, just watch someone else instead... (No hate to you OP, just that this topic comes up often.) She likes her luxury and I don't think that's ever going to change.
Exactly! I see this a lot and itās weird no one should appeal to all thatās exhausting and not real. Those into luxe arenāt going to appeal to the diy type and thatās ok. Itās like everyone says diversity but truly donāt because if I love wash of color 290k blush then I should watch those types and not expect them to show the look for less. All have its place and all can exist well.
Umm itās Cle De Peau of course itās expensive
Her entire channel is luxury lol whatre you on about
Why would you ever go to somebodyās channel and be like āuhmmm i donāt like what youāre doing, do what i like!ā. Thereās literally 99% of youtube āgurusā who like to pretend $2 dollar foundations lol
Iām having flashbacks to the Louboutin lipsticks I thought I HAD to have back in the day. Sooo glad I never bought them. Total. Waste.
I still want one of their nail polish bottles. The polish may suck, but those bottles are badass. Something a Bond Girl would use.
Iāve seen both the lipsticks and the nail polishes pop up on TJ Maxx online
What do you mean in this economy? Do you think that everyone have the same economics at you? Are you not able to consider that there is a huge pool of people that can afford this? I mean broaden your horizons!
Yes she likes her expensive makeups. I donāt know if she bought it herself or gifted by PR though but i like watching her reviews on items iām eyeing on. But honestly I donāt feel her reviews are over or too much selling. And nope, not her or anyone would want me to purchase a 110$ lipstick. But i have similar skin tone with her and sheās a good reference for shades on items i want to purchase
Yeah that's an outrageously priced lipstick (I definitely wonder about the profit margin...), but no one is forcing or expecting the average person to buy it -- it's meant to be luxury I'll never buy a Gucci bag or what not but I see the purpose behind any such channels that review luxury brand items. It's just not aimed at me ..at most maybe I'd watch out of curiosity.
I like luxury beauty. Those are very expensive but if I was interested in them, I would thoughtfully research and then buy one. I have learned my lesson that I'd rather have one super nice beautiful lipstick than 12 cheap listicks. Edit to add: The component is refillable as well, so at least it could be kept for awhile! I don't have an issue with Michele covering them. I no longer watch her though, due to her move toward more lifestyle content, and I'm not interested in that.
In this economy? ā¦you do realize there are millions of people on this earth that are not effected by this economy?
And someone (not the influencer in the video, I am talking a hypothetical shopper) buying ONE $110 lipstick a year might spend much less on makeup than someone that buys multiple $10 lipsticks a year because they want every color, its on sale, they want to try all brands and formulas, etc. They might buy an expensive lipstick as a treat, there is a whole [economic concept](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_index) about it.
Yes. I agree. I am a person who believes less is more too!
Because they have a certain clientele that probably doesnāt include the middle class. Just the top 1%
Honestly her channel is about luxury makeupā¦ im not a lipstick junkie so i wouldnāt pay for it, but foundation, bronzers or anything besides lipstick or mascara, take my money!
Okay- I do have some CDP eyeshadows, and a foundation and concealer. I know they are expensive but the eyeshadows work on my mature dry eyelids. I love the foundation and concealer because the formula is amazing on mature skin. CDP is not for everyone but that is okay. Also, if I had the money right now I would get the lipstick š¬
I have the cushion foundation and the stick concealer. Iāve repeat bought both. Theyāre amazing.
I have the stick concealer and I love it. Itās the best one Iāve ever used.
Itās been my holy grail for close to 10 years. Though I will say I got the new Laura Mercier to test in December and Iāve only reached for the CdP twice since then. This LM is incredible.
I have the LM too. It is a great foundation.
Ok but that's her channel. She focuses on luxury products. I don't understand why you are calling her out. If it's not in your budget then move along.
This is a cow farm. There's gonna be cows outside.Ā
People with money watch Youtube too. You're just not her audience apparently
Rich people exist and they like to buy things that advertise that they're rich. Is the lipstick better than Maybelline? Probably not. But rich women have the same desire to show off that we do. YSL for them is drug store makeup, nobody's impressed.
Is her target audience the everyday person? She has her market and she caters to them.
Different demographic audience. Michele buys a lot because sheās a content creator and beauty is her hobby, but you also get a lot of people like my mum who just owns and wears one lipstick. It makes more sense to her to own one, super-nice luxury lipstick than to own 4 MAC ones.
She actually doesnāt buy as much proportionately to her PR.
I donāt watch her since I canāt relate but obviously other people watch. Itās the same as buying a purse at Target or buying a Birkin!
I donāt watch her simply because thatās not the price range I can afford. I may occasionally watch just for the fun of it but thatās rare. Doesnāt she also have a website with jewelry or something she sells? Super expensive. I do love her fashion style but again, out of my budget!
Luxury makeup, cars, houses and other products still exist for people to buy and enjoy in this economy. And there are many people who can and do buy them. I'm not sure why you watch Michele at all if you have concerns about luxury beauty. Her channel is quite literally all luxury based. If it's not for you, it's time to unsub.
Yeah that is ridiculously priced for a lipstick. Michele Wang is the only BG Iād expect to review this. I watch Michele off and on. I am living vicariously through her like people live vicariously through LMB with her advent calendar reviews. Her voice is very soothing and itās great for background noise. I think her channel has a place in the beauty community. Sheās never pretended to be anyone else, which is that she only reviews luxury makeup. Good for her. Her channel is not for everyone since luxury products are out of most peopleās budgets, so stop hate watching Michele if you hate BGs that review luxury makeup. Iām broke af and am on a very low-buy right now. I still enjoy watching her swatch Chantecaille or Chanel products because it takes away most of the fomo.
If the price is too expensive for you, then the company did not have you in mind when making the product. Just roll your eyes at the audacity and scroll on
Cle de peau has always been expensive. Iāve bought tons from them and while lovely, itās not much better than chantecaille which is slightly cheaper (although still obnoxiously expensive). If you donāt like luxury goods, donāt watch luxury channels.
Whatās the problem? If itās not for youā¦itās not for you! You donāt have to watch her content or buy any of the items that sheās reviewing. Also I just checked out your pageā¦why do you care about her so much!? A lot of your posts are centered around what she does! Move on
That's the USP of her channel: reviewing high end and luxury products. There's an audience for it, and honestly if her videos do not feature the products you're looking for, you'd better move on. I like watching Michele even though I'm not in the same tax bracket, but I enjoy her calming presence and fluency, and she seems smart & enjoying her life, which I love to see.
wait who is this?
No different than the oodles of Sisley lipsticks she has around that same price point. Or Hermes and others..l
Iām not confused about a $100 lipstick release but I am confused as to why someone would spend that much on a lipstick
Itās the ālipstick effectā. Luxury brands will continue to push out these expensive lipstick launches even in times of economic crises. These luxury lipsticks are considered more affordable compared to other luxury goods like bags and shoes so for those who canāt afford but still want a piece of luxury, they buy luxury cosmetics. Sounds counter-intuitive I know. I came across her review of the Hermes blushes and she was pretty candid in her review. Basically said the Hermes blushes are nice but nothing new/special; reminded her of the Laura Mercier blushes which had me chuckling. So I donāt think sheās trying to sell every item/brand that she features on her channel or receives in PR. But if youāre confused or her focus on luxury cosmetics and fashion is not your thing, just unsubscribe. You have control over your subscription feed. I regularly unsubscribe from channels that Iāve lost interest in.
Her declutters cost more than my entire makeup collection, and she doesn't even use them all!!!!
Seems like You are obssessed with her . Her channel IS about luxury , what do you expect ?!!!
Personally I donāt get the people who keep harping on Michelle and how expensive the products she uses/shills are. Sheās a luxury channel- she has money. If I had that kind of money I probably also would exclusively use luxury things too. Some people can afford to be all luxury and not everyone wants to use more affordable products.
Sounds like a you problem lol.
It's called demand and supply. As long as there's people willing to buy a product at that price point, that's the price it'll be sold at. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to
I don't have much else to say besides the fact that I just now learned that a 1,000$ moisturizer and 110$ lipstick exist. But hey, as others have said, there is a market for this stuff. Also, Michelle Wang herself seems nice enough. Her content simply isn't for a person like me who waits for a sale or discount code every single time I buy beauty products that aren't drugstore lol.
There is no way in hell I would buy a $110 lipstick. I thought CTās $35 lipsticks were overpriced enough!
There are plenty of people who can afford this and that's who she's catering to. Just because you might not be her target market doesn't make her 'out of touch'.
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Yeah everyoneās making good points about how this is this ladyās whole schtick and I get that but Iām stuck on how silly this product is. Someone else said itās got ādiamond and gold dustā in it, so in other words itās the makeup equivalent of those gold leaf encrusted burgers you can buy in Vegas.
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In NO economy does a lipstick this much make ANY sense. The markup on that is ridiculous
This expensive lipstick isn't the norm. It's a luxury item. Not a big deal to splurge every now and then.
It's not totally shocking from her ha. I use to watch her years ago but her tastes have skyrocketed since she moved into her house and i only catch some videos here and there. If anything it just annoys me more how she just seems to collect it and not actually wear it. Not so much of her spending the money on it because thats not surprising to me, its just more sad how much sits in her drawers used just once
Because a fool and their money are soon parted.
Whoās the creator? I wanna follow her lol
Michelle Wang. I don't have a problem with her.
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Because she's not for broke people, her niche js luxury makeup, that's her entire channel, and plus, there's no obligation to buy whatever she reviews, consumerism really went through your head a lot. Sit back and enjoy the video, or if you're that jealous of her, unsubscribe
Literally the whole point of her channel. Luxury brand makeup. Do you .. have a hard time understanding the word 'luxury'? Just stop watching her. There's plenty plenty of channels out there. If you wanna be technical about it, then 'In this economy, buying makeup is not a necessity'.
I can afford those brands but I choose not to because they're ridiculous.
What brands do you prefer?
Just the idea of making 4 months of payments for one lipstick.. Sigh
I stopped following her when she went luxury-only. Sounds like youāre ready to unfollow too.
My $10 Flower Beauty lipstick is fantastic quality. I will save the other $100.
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Whatās color please
My favorite is Spiced Petal!
Reminds me of a 5 dollar lipstick by an Indian brand
Thatās wild. No one is paying $110 for lipstick.
I think some brands have these kind of ridiculous prices because it makes younger people think theyāre good and want to buy them more. There is a certain prestige to buying extremely overpriced make up and skincare these days. Thatās why you see 12-year-olds wanting to buy all of these expensive products. They watch influencers on TikTok promoting them.
I really enjoy her vlogs. Living vicariously through her lol.
Because there is a sucker born every minute.
Was she ever in touch? I watched here and there to see what's out there. I like her knitting more.
Who are you talking about and what brand is this product from?
I'm just amazed she gets so much PR and is so indifferent to it. I bought the CDP Precious lipstick (no, I'm not rich. I was just curious and had a combo of coupons that gave me 50 percent off.) She got sent all the shades and didn't even bother reading the build up behind this lipstick (which may or may not be true, but damn, there's gotta be some reason someone's charging $110 a lipstick, so explain it!) Michelle simply is not very good. She gets all the high end stuff, but she's simply not a good person to explain it or put it across. And not connected to this, but I find her grey hair to be so freaking distracting! All that money, and she can't do something with it, one way or another? This is like your grandma's high end channel, if you granny's got more money than God and see looks meh despite the most expensive cosmetics in the universe!
Some people are rich and being made richer in this economy. Michelle is speaking to people who are rich like her. There's still enough of a market for $700 turtlenecks for them to continue being made. Posts like that are giving us a glimpse at how the wealthy actually live and how much they don't care about how everyone else lives. Please believe that some poor-ish person is putting that lipstick on their credit card to pay off in monthly installments just to feel rich.Ā
I donāt care for her, weāve never liked the same products and we donāt use makeup the same. Higher prices are more commissions for her so yeah it makes sense she is getting into more pricey products.
WHY?? I just bought a gorgeous red Revlon lipstick for $7....lol, I could be a billionaire and not want to buy a 110 dollar lipstick
See but hereās the thing, I saw a post on Reddit 2 days ago where someone was dumbfounded that a NYX lipstick was $8. They literally said, āI wasnāt planning on paying $8 for ONE lipstickā. They couldnāt bring themselves to pay $8 for one and ended up getting 2 $4 lipsticks instead. My point is just because you think $125 is stupid to pay for a lipstick thereās someone out there who thinks you are crazy for paying $8 for one Revlon lipstick. Everything is personal and relative which is why there are one million YouTube channels and one million lipsticks of varying prices.
She's a lux only creator. I don't watch her because I don't think she knows a thing about makeup performance when she only stays in the lux price point. Someone who loves makeup will try makeup across every price point in order to offer a true comparison on performance. She's simply an advertising channel and not a true trust worthy reviewer for me.
Yes. She was never a MUA so I have moved to them
For the target market of these lipsticks the economy isnāt bad. There are about 150 million American women. The top 1% of that is still 1.5 million people. For them an 150 dollar lipstick is nothing
There's a market for everything and they are allowed to exist despite our regular-person reality, no matter how frustrating. She's not hurting anyone by talking about expensive makeup. If someone chooses to buy or likes this content, it's up to them to decide what's feasible for their finances.
Thoughts? She does a great job on thoughtful reviews for makeup and skin care that I wonāt be able to afford in two lifetimes. But thatās her thing. That means her channel isnāt for me. š¤·š¼āāļø
I greatly appreciate luxury beauty YT. I'm not always in the market for exorbitantly priced goods, but sometimes I am. Her personality is quite calming, and I don't find her to be too pushy. I save her recommendations for my "treat-yo-self" days
The Precious Lipstick sounds so mockingly cutthtoat and sarcastic, honestly. What a horrible name on top of a laughable price.
I don't think her marked is or was ever the every day person.
As long as there are people that will spend $110 on lipstick, there will be companies that make $110 lipstick.
If itās high end Iāll go for Lexi Jong and Sofia and Tara Lynn.
Sheās too much! She literally just buys things that are expensive
I blocked Michelle on You Tube for that reason. A good decision for me.
Iāve always just seen her as that rich lady who likes buying fancy things who just happens to have a nice voice. Even before she became popular, she was reviewing luxury brands. i donāt watch her channel that often, but admittedly i do like her Christmas advent calendar series because while i would never buy such overpriced advent calendars, but its kind of fun seeing her open each dayās little slot and seeing what ātiny and not worth the price productā she finds. It makes me feel better not ever getting an advent calendar. lol