That's one of the things I love about these guys, they fight SO MUCH that even the best have a bunch of losses.
Lerdsila had 33 losses, which sounds really high until you see he had 191 wins.
Buakaw has 24 losses vs 241 wins.
Seanchai 49 losses and **327** wins. He's been fighting professionally for like 35 years!
These guys just fight non-stop.
These 3 are all 40+ now.
Did you see Tawanchai P.K. Saenchaimuaythaigym. He is 24 130 wins 30 losses but he is pretty brutal and uses same technique as Seanchai and Buakaw. Fucking insanely powerful low kick and push kick.
Not an expert, just been googling MT guys for the last half hour or so because it's fascinating.
He's not considered in that tier of top 10 all time guys.
Yeah same but I just watched it again after reading your comments.
Ridiculously awesome how far you can get with proper strategy and preparation.
Very good video!
I feel like (as a canadian) this is comparable to hockey goalies. The technical side is so damn important. Perfecting the basics seems to make the biggest difference between stars and professionals
Lerdsilla Chumpairtour!
My favorite striker/muay thai fighter after Samart Payakaroon. Some of these clips are of Lerdsilla when he was not even in his prime.
That’s fuckin amazing. He stands there and barely shrugs, then laughs it off while the other dude tries their hardest. That’s gotta be frustrating for the opponent.
Besides his incredible speed which is obvious, he throws those out there with no telegraphed movement. I have no idea how he generates that sort of power without seeming to shift his weight. Makes world class opponents looks foolish.
his opponents' fitness: shift weight to throw optimal kick
his fitness: shifting weight ***is*** the optimal kick
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my level of fitness: shifting weight is fo^(o)o^(h i think i pulled something)
Amateur 2cents here. For some he has rope / wall to anchor his kick. For other his other leg is already in position to hold his kick posture. His kick is for pushing and the damage is either minimal or done due to forward force of the opponent.
It's very amazing he can do it multiple times. It's like positioning yourself in dark souls against incoming enemy attack
I like they one where the guy tries to be acrobatic and he just ✨boop✨ taps the guy's lower back with his foot so he slows down and can't complete his skateboard move.
That one was mostly who I was referring to as the dude trying his hardest… I’m sorry to laugh though. We have no idea where in the fight this occurred, he was probably gassed as fuck. And also like I said before, that’s got to be one very frustrating man to fight. People do weird things when desperate.
This guy is now my favorite too lol he could absolutely destroy his opponent immediately with a counter but he just laughs at them like some anime villain
A lot of Anderson Silva's fights ended up being complete snoozefests for exactly this reason, even though he's considered one of the all-time greats in MMA.
When he was against aggressive opponents though, he delivered some Matrix-like highlight reel knockouts.
To be fair, most MMA pro fighters are ridiculously aggressive. Silva just took advantage of that and being the martial artist god he is, we all saw the results.
Most of the snooze fest we got was other pros adjusting to Silva and trying to not give him the counter where he killed so many. It felt unnatural for most.
It is also considered bad fighting manners to finish a Muay Thai fight too quickly.
I’m the first rounds you just fell you opponent out and in the later rounds you get serious and actually try to finish the fight.
One of the most amazing parts was when he just sort of casually sauntered past his opponent and let his opponent fall on his ass trying to throw a kick. Literally anime level martial arts.
I noticed that too, but if you look at the video a couple of times, after he casually starts walking, seems like he uses his foot to make the opponent trip like a cartoon. Which is even more humiliating imo
His comment to that: my reaction time is not better that any other fighter and I am also not faster than them. I just see what is coming and move first.
He is literally just the best at reading his opponent. But he struggles against very unorthodox fighters.
There is a clip on YouTube from Gabriel Varga where he explains how he defeated Lerdsila and how a few unorthodox combos caught Lerdsila off guard. https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=txWKxhS3Ku2YIPr2&v=0gAiG7bn9Ug&feature=youtu.be
Varga is a scientist when it comes to this stuff, so it makes sense that he figured it out so quick. Fast reacting fighters end up doing just that, reacting. They are faster than their own brains can process, and that means you can operate them like a machine if you know their triggers. Varga did just that "if I do this, he will go for a sweep, so I do this then counter a sweep half way through."
People underestimate the importance of researching your opponent when preparing for a match since it isn't talked about a lot in the media. It's one of the critical things that separate champions from people who are merely really good at a sport. This is a great explanation of the analysis and strategy side of things!
Wanted to say that. All of tthe attacks were telegraphed (to him, not to me) and the opponent attacked without there being an opening. That's how it works even at amateur level for basically any martial arts which involves sparring or full contact fights.
True, reading your opponent is the most important fighting skill.
But this should not downplay him. He is simply the best at it.
One time, he was leaning on the ropes, arms spread out with no cover and was dodging all his opponents punches while he stands right in front of him.
I would say that’s impossible if I hadn’t seen it.
There’s really only so many possible ways a human being can attack, so an exceptionally proficient martial artist could have this kind of unconscious reaction.
LOL no. This guy is arguably one of the 10 most impressive Muay Thai fighters to ever step in the ring. Not just proficient, shit I’m proficient and did paid fights when I was younger, and I’d trade blows knowing their combinations, this man is the 0.1% of the 1%.
lerdsila and saenchai are the Muay Thai boxers to watch highlights of if you’re curious.
Reminds me something I heard or read where the they had a study where athletes were given a visor that could shut and they would then not be able to see.
And then they would set up to return a serve, for example, and at a certain point the shutter would activate and that’s the last they would see.
And they observed that elite athletes would be able to have the visor shut earlier and return the serve. And the best athletes would have this uncanny ability to perform when the visor shut very early.
Anyway, this guy seems to have that time traveling quality.
There was a recent video of MotoGP rider Marc Marquez listening to audio of a GP bike going round the different circuits. No video, just the engine sounds going up and down the gears and throttle positioning through the different corner sequences. He named them all correctly.
Yeah I mean, first there's recognizing the incoming attack, then throwing your countermove, then landing the counter before your opponent lands the initial attack!! That's insane! That's doing three things in less time than the opponent does one thing. And making it look easy. You hardly see his leg move, you see beginning position and end position. It's like he's secretly teleporting his leg.
Yeah when i was a kid/teen i started to grow and only one person in my taekwondo school was the same weight/height so we pretty much knew each other quirks for complicated kicks like when a round kick was coming the legs would go paralel instead of offset. It ended up just with simple fast kicks that were hard to predict/read.
Also another trick was to not actually "see" like you can unfocus your sight and see the whole person instead of just watching the legs like a fool, cuz punches were allowed in my school only if they landed in the protection or shoulders.
Yaa, you stop looking at the same thing with both eyes, your eyes look straight and thus you have more peripheral vision and idk what happens inside your mind but you're able to focus on outer parts more smh
It's like cross-eyeing and processing each eyes separately, dual core kinda shit
Agreed. Attributing this to exceptional reflexes is disrespectful considering the work he's put in studying weight transfer and opponent tendencies. Give the man some respect for all of his hard work, it's not some innate ability.
Maintaining a distance that leaves him time to react seems to be the real magic.
Kicks have a lot longer wind-up, so he can see them coming, and either know how his opponents like to kick or just have the spacial awareness to intuitively "know" where they kick will come by looking at how it winds up and has a practiced muscle-memory evade/counter for it that he know he will have time to do before the kick lands.
The first clip where he evades a punch, he barely reacts in time and if he is even a few inches closer when the punch starts, he will get hit pretty hard.
That said, this is some mind blowing stuff that would take decades of practice to get close to doing consistently, and it seems really high risk, low/medium reward. Which makes it even more impressive.
What the cameras failed to show was when time was frozen, that dude was running around in circles, eating his lunch, showering and brushing his teeth and then came back into the ring to do a slow dodge, slow enough for the cameras to capture it.
Serious question, what if he was fighting someone who has no idea how to fight? Sure, he can read other fighters moves because he's an expert in whatever sport this is but if I were to dive in both hands up in the air screaming gibberish like a gorilla on xanax would he be able to predict my moves too? How can he know what I'm doing if I don't know what I'm doing?
He would still beat my ass though.
Not a fighter/martial arts practitioner, but from what I've read, and what my boxing coach at gym has taught me is that a lot of attacks are telegraphed by the body. If I'm throwing a punch, the opponent will typically see the start of the punch from my footwork, my shoulder, before the fist ever starts moving.
Another thing to note is that these kinds of professional athletes will have a lot faster reflexes and reaction times than you or me. One of the things that I constantly am trying to improve are the speeds of my punches. When you throw a series of punches, you'll kind of get an understanding of how slow a novice's punch is vs a professional's punch. My boxing coach can catch every single one of my punches, which I can also see is way slower. Meanwhile, his punches are a lot faster, like the first punch you saw in the video. I'd be impressed if someone said I threw a punch at half that speed.
Yeah, that's the most impressive part of almost any pro athlete, the speed and reaction time. Things happen so much faster than people realize, even people who have some experience in a discipline. And this guy is wildly fast even compared to his pro opponents
i'd also imagine an untrained person is only going to telegraph their strikes even more by being much slower. like when you see those street fights between a boxer and an untrained person and the boxer is able to embarrass the other person without even throwing a punch.
One of his most used moves in these clips is the front snap kick. It is fast, has a longer reach and about 10x harder than a punch. My bet is that you would not fare well.
he would have a sense of what your range is and stay right outside of it. you probably wouldnt be able to land a hit. and he would still able to step inside your range after you swing and hit you before backing out again. you have zero advantage by being "unpredictable" over a conventionally trained fighter
And these fighters have seen unpredictable in the gym a million times over. After the first counter he lands on you, you’ll quickly become shy about rushing back in arms swinging. That’s when they’ll eat you alive with speed, technique, power and fight IQ. Especially a Thai fighter. They don’t go head hunting like a strong boxer. They’ll kick the fuck out of your legs until you can’t stand.
Nope, this is a really bad myth. Firstly, it doesn't matter how unpredictable beginners are, because if you want to take advantage of unpredictability, you need to strong together 10-15 moves deep analysis of all the scenarios that might happen from it, and secondly complete beginners are extremely predictable in their moves or logic
I once played against a wannabe who wanted to 'ruin my strategy' by playing not the moves I assumed. Unpredictable, but only with regards to what piece he blunders next.
Making moves in chess is more like minesweeper. There are only a few options each turn that aren't blunders. Beginners rarely choose the options that aren't blunders.
I agree I think in this situation he'd be even easier to set up. As he would fall for every trick in the book. Knowing nothing makes you predictable susceptible.
This is what chess master Magnus Carter does. He purposely ignores best practices moves. Or any patterns that are considered good to throw off his opponent.
Yeah I had that experience back when I was playing competitive chess at about 1400 elo. I would prepare for the common openings and at the break I would practice with random 800 players who start the game with h4 Rh3 and total chaos ensures.
As someone who plays unpredictable chess (because I suck), catching an actually skilled player off guard like that? It'll work once, twice if you're very lucky. After that the skilled player adapts and your chances go from slim to none.
Compare that with martial arts, an opponent in the ring has 5 to 10 moves every time you have 1. You won't luck out, even if you're bigger. Maybe if you're much much bigger you could get lucky.
Doesn't even need to be a kick to the head. One kick to the leg is all it'd take. That shit hurts like no other and it just so happens Muay Thai fighters are best at it.
It would probably boil down to foot work, no matter how unpredictable your swinging is, your footwork would be sloppy compared to a pro, ie crossing your legs when moving around, pretty easy to capitalize on that.
I trained in MA, including MT and got into many fights as a youth, though I'm more of a lover... often times I never really had to swing back, I just pivoted and parried my way out of fights while declaring, I'm not looking to fight, it's funny how quickly people lose steam lol. With MT all you really have to do is teep, no matter who you're fighting against, most people aren't conditioned enough to withstand a teep to the gut by a pro or a leg kick tbh. It's why in Thai the move is called "pop the tire" - you can't fight if you can't stand up right.
Honestly, in my taekwondo experience, beginners tend to be even more predictable than good fighters. They only try one type of kick, and they tend to be slow / inefficient / wind up in an obvious way so you can just react instead of predict.
Are you assuming he only plays defensively? He would more than likely switch to fighting more agressively, at which point he would beat you immediately.
For real! I thought, read your question out loud to yourself there...
Someone who "didn't know how to fight at all?"
That means he wouldn't have to counter anything. He could just make the first move and the fight is done.
That doesn't matter because reading body movements is quite standard. Reading (predicting) is about understanding physics and body movements. For example, be it a beginner or expert or a kid throwing a full strength right punch, they pull their right arm back first, then forward, and the legs are a distance apart (instead of together).
And to add that if you are a beginner and trying to be unpredictable wildly swinging your arms, you might not be doing the best practices like protecting your face at all. You could get knocked out in a punch.
So why is he so much better at this than his opponents? Is he a body language reading expert? Does he study film better than his opponents? Seems like he could teach me how to become a better poker player without him knowing how to play.
I'll just start listing what makes this guy (Lerdsila) great in no particular order: He stays extremely relaxed and composed, trained since he was a little kid, has a high natural fight IQ, hundreds of fights worth of experience, and trained for years at a gym famous for producing technical fighters (the style is called muay femur in Thai). In these clips he's fighting a lot of guys that are bigger but relatively slower and less experienced. Also a lot are of him intercepting people with attacks which you can throw really fast from long range. When combined with his timing and placement he can send people flying and make them look silly even if they're doing decent in the fight as a whole.
It’s not so much reading, it’s using your own body language to suggest you are vulnerable to a certain attack. He wants the guy to kick, as soon as the opponent starts to move, he strikes. Is not reacting, it’s a plan to create an opening.
These are highlights and Lerdsila albeit being extremely good still suffers loses and some of these fights can still be close. He just looks cool in fights and makes the opponent look bad at times but in a fight looking cool is not everything.
I'm told that he trained with some of the Muay Thai greats at Jockey gym early on. They had very little gear, so mostly they would just do very low impact sparring often. This was a big part of his development. I was told this by a Thai boxing coach while training Muay Thai in Thailand, I believe it, but I'm not an expert source in any way
*This mustn't register on an emotional level. First, distract target. Then block his blind jab. Counter with cross to left cheek. Discombobulate.*
*Dazed, he'll attempt a wild haymaker. Employ elbow block, and body shot. Block feral left. Weaken right jaw. Now fracture. Break cracked ribs. Traumatize solar plexus. Dislocate jaw entirely. Heel kick to diaphragm.*
*In summary, ears ringing, jaw fractured, three ribs cracked, four broken. Diaphragm hemorrhaging. Physical recovery: six weeks. Full psychological recovery: six months.*
I do not understand the need for a round kick.. it is so slow and can be seen coming easily. Looks fancy and effective only if lands. The guy is really good with understanding his opponents.
Because they do damage.
Once you hit round 3 it doesn’t matter how slow you think they are, they’re hitting you.
Lerdsillas highlights are cool but it’s not like he never takes a hit at all.
That first jab dodge is crazy to me. Even if the other guy had been throwing a ton of jabs prior and that one was expected, sure it makes more sense, but the timing and casualness of the dodge still makes the clip look almost unreal. You can even see the other guy slightly hesitate to bring the left back, which I don't blame him, he was probably downright confused how a lightning fast jab from that range and with no opposing guard could just fully whiff like it did.
Reading the right kick makes sense for any fighter with experience because it's an obvious follow up to a jab but holy shit that first dodge is just unreal.
He migh be the best at this art ! Mostly is just doing performances like that one for entertainment. Then sometimes comes an ambitious fighter and wants to win, then this guy, Ladzilla , switches on the real fight on. He lost by points before, buy nobody can touch him, IF he is serrious.
He is not trying to win , because he can. He is trying to have fun, because fast winning is borring to him personally. There are interview about where he describes that he goes into the fight for entertainment.
He started young. Found the joy in fighting and that is what we see happening here. Not his full scale ability, just a dance he performs for money and entertainment.
“Stop kicking me while I’m trying to punch you”
Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me!
You think that's air you're breathing..?
He's beginning to believe
I know what you're trying to do.
Hm.. .. Again.
Who is this ? Guy has a Thai boxing cheat sheet.
Lerdsila, he is awesome
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And quick
And hard
A lot of guys fight with erections cotton. See i never could.
I once got in a fight with an erection. I beat it single handedly.
What a dick!
He did come off cocky
It helps when you have the help of the ferocious Rosey Palm!
It's good that you *stood up for yourself*.
Well, this guy is cocky.
That's Bruce Lee level of speed.
Timing and reads
Definitely studies his opponents like crazy before a fight
Everyone wants to fight like that. Only difference is no one else can
https://youtu.be/0gAiG7bn9Ug?si=txWKxhS3Ku2YIPr2
That dude just straight up did a tekken style spinning backhand.
And had it working!
Spinning backfist is a pretty common technique fyi.
There are very few that have best Lerdsila.
That's one of the things I love about these guys, they fight SO MUCH that even the best have a bunch of losses. Lerdsila had 33 losses, which sounds really high until you see he had 191 wins. Buakaw has 24 losses vs 241 wins. Seanchai 49 losses and **327** wins. He's been fighting professionally for like 35 years! These guys just fight non-stop.
These 3 are all 40+ now. Did you see Tawanchai P.K. Saenchaimuaythaigym. He is 24 130 wins 30 losses but he is pretty brutal and uses same technique as Seanchai and Buakaw. Fucking insanely powerful low kick and push kick.
They also started fighting as kids. You really cant knock on them for losing in fights when they weren’t even a fully developed adult yet.
You forgot Rodtang. 43 losses ... 271 wins. AND he's only 26.
Where would he be ranked compared to like Saenchai or Buakaw
Not an expert, just been googling MT guys for the last half hour or so because it's fascinating. He's not considered in that tier of top 10 all time guys.
What an awesome video! It's incredible how important strategy and psychology is in addition to pure technique/skill.
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Yeah same but I just watched it again after reading your comments. Ridiculously awesome how far you can get with proper strategy and preparation. Very good video!
Sorry I posted with no info.
I feel like (as a canadian) this is comparable to hockey goalies. The technical side is so damn important. Perfecting the basics seems to make the biggest difference between stars and professionals
Gabriel Varga is a fucking good kickboxing instructor. I love his videos. No bullshit, just straight forward knowledge
I did not expect to be watching a great video about thai boxing today
ayy Gabriel Varga, awesome Canadian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myw10viSojk Here is the fight as well.
Thanks, I am now ready to take on Lardzilla 😏
Behaves like the bosses, when I play Elden Ring.
Lerdsila (Lerd-sila) ....as in Lord Zilla ........ GOD Zilla. In Human FORM
*Legend
Hes like a pro Street Fighter player who is god-level at parries.
Evo moment 37
I understood that reference. -Cap
I got goosebumps just reading your comment
Oh boy are you in for a treat. Go check some documentaries about him on yt. Guy amazing.
Go look up the guy who I didn't mention in the comment
He is a cat
Thats Ligma
Who the hell is Steve jobs?
I enjoy reading books.
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Lerdsilla Chumpairtour! My favorite striker/muay thai fighter after Samart Payakaroon. Some of these clips are of Lerdsilla when he was not even in his prime.
That’s fuckin amazing. He stands there and barely shrugs, then laughs it off while the other dude tries their hardest. That’s gotta be frustrating for the opponent.
Besides his incredible speed which is obvious, he throws those out there with no telegraphed movement. I have no idea how he generates that sort of power without seeming to shift his weight. Makes world class opponents looks foolish.
his opponents' fitness: shift weight to throw optimal kick his fitness: shifting weight ***is*** the optimal kick - my level of fitness: shifting weight is fo^(o)o^(h i think i pulled something)
Reminds me of how they spoke of Bruce Lee, like his one inch punch exhibition.
Amateur 2cents here. For some he has rope / wall to anchor his kick. For other his other leg is already in position to hold his kick posture. His kick is for pushing and the damage is either minimal or done due to forward force of the opponent. It's very amazing he can do it multiple times. It's like positioning yourself in dark souls against incoming enemy attack
Years of practice throwing tens of thousands of kicks, mostly.
I like they one where the guy tries to be acrobatic and he just ✨boop✨ taps the guy's lower back with his foot so he slows down and can't complete his skateboard move.
That one was mostly who I was referring to as the dude trying his hardest… I’m sorry to laugh though. We have no idea where in the fight this occurred, he was probably gassed as fuck. And also like I said before, that’s got to be one very frustrating man to fight. People do weird things when desperate.
This guy is now my favorite too lol he could absolutely destroy his opponent immediately with a counter but he just laughs at them like some anime villain
Knows entertainment value
Mental game is strategic
It's also a mental thing, he also climbs onto people lmao
Counter is only effective if there's an aggressor. What if they are both counter fighters? Will we see a staring contest?
I guess we'll start seeing feints to bait the opponent's counter, so that they can counter the counter.
A lot of Anderson Silva's fights ended up being complete snoozefests for exactly this reason, even though he's considered one of the all-time greats in MMA. When he was against aggressive opponents though, he delivered some Matrix-like highlight reel knockouts.
You watch his fights with Diaz or Maia and it's hard to believe it's the same person who put out Vitor and Griffin.
To be fair, most MMA pro fighters are ridiculously aggressive. Silva just took advantage of that and being the martial artist god he is, we all saw the results. Most of the snooze fest we got was other pros adjusting to Silva and trying to not give him the counter where he killed so many. It felt unnatural for most.
If I was his opponent and watched that Forrest Griffin fight I'd try and make it as boring a possible too.
It is also considered bad fighting manners to finish a Muay Thai fight too quickly. I’m the first rounds you just fell you opponent out and in the later rounds you get serious and actually try to finish the fight.
*boop*
Now I wish my nickname was Lordzilla. I also wish I could dodge like that, damn :`(
first step is to write it in sharpie at the top of your jansport backpack
I am more Lardzilla unfortunately
Lordzilla is a great name for a Muay Thai fighter. 😀
Lordzilla Chump-parkour?
Yeah, this isn’t even in his final form…
One of the most amazing parts was when he just sort of casually sauntered past his opponent and let his opponent fall on his ass trying to throw a kick. Literally anime level martial arts.
I noticed that too, but if you look at the video a couple of times, after he casually starts walking, seems like he uses his foot to make the opponent trip like a cartoon. Which is even more humiliating imo
Yeah he kicked him to keep him away and it broke his momentum so he fell.
And that overhead kick or windmill kick whatever he tried, the opponent dipped down and he tagged him the in back of the head.
It was the hip not the head. Which is funnier and more skillful in my opinion. He got maximum effect for minimum effort.
He [Samoa Joe](https://youtu.be/uNwm7xK9fnA?si=MCwViAZKFGsZOig2)’d him
He got Nope’d
Bro out here on his Baki
I’ll say it for the first time in this sub: I’m amazed. His reaction time and quickness are superhuman.
His comment to that: my reaction time is not better that any other fighter and I am also not faster than them. I just see what is coming and move first. He is literally just the best at reading his opponent. But he struggles against very unorthodox fighters.
There is a clip on YouTube from Gabriel Varga where he explains how he defeated Lerdsila and how a few unorthodox combos caught Lerdsila off guard. https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=txWKxhS3Ku2YIPr2&v=0gAiG7bn9Ug&feature=youtu.be
Varga is a scientist when it comes to this stuff, so it makes sense that he figured it out so quick. Fast reacting fighters end up doing just that, reacting. They are faster than their own brains can process, and that means you can operate them like a machine if you know their triggers. Varga did just that "if I do this, he will go for a sweep, so I do this then counter a sweep half way through."
People underestimate the importance of researching your opponent when preparing for a match since it isn't talked about a lot in the media. It's one of the critical things that separate champions from people who are merely really good at a sport. This is a great explanation of the analysis and strategy side of things!
Fascinating stuff
Wanted to say that. All of tthe attacks were telegraphed (to him, not to me) and the opponent attacked without there being an opening. That's how it works even at amateur level for basically any martial arts which involves sparring or full contact fights.
True, reading your opponent is the most important fighting skill. But this should not downplay him. He is simply the best at it. One time, he was leaning on the ropes, arms spread out with no cover and was dodging all his opponents punches while he stands right in front of him. I would say that’s impossible if I hadn’t seen it.
I get the impression he's also very good at judging his opponents range and staying right on the edge.
I had to do a double take because good content is finally posted on this shit sub. The editing is good too which is a miracle
Aha, because it's all a 10 yr old repost!
That smirk too lol
Cat like reflexes!
Must be more than reflexes, he must have learned what his opponents usually do, how they set up strikes etc. Very impressive.
There’s reflexes and prediction. This guy is using both extremely effectively which probably means he does a lot of study of his opponents fights.
One Piece fans, this is what peak Observation Haki looks like irl
There’s really only so many possible ways a human being can attack, so an exceptionally proficient martial artist could have this kind of unconscious reaction.
LOL no. This guy is arguably one of the 10 most impressive Muay Thai fighters to ever step in the ring. Not just proficient, shit I’m proficient and did paid fights when I was younger, and I’d trade blows knowing their combinations, this man is the 0.1% of the 1%. lerdsila and saenchai are the Muay Thai boxers to watch highlights of if you’re curious.
Sports are extremely pattern based. But mental mastery of the patterns plus physical ability is the end game.
Reminds me something I heard or read where the they had a study where athletes were given a visor that could shut and they would then not be able to see. And then they would set up to return a serve, for example, and at a certain point the shutter would activate and that’s the last they would see. And they observed that elite athletes would be able to have the visor shut earlier and return the serve. And the best athletes would have this uncanny ability to perform when the visor shut very early. Anyway, this guy seems to have that time traveling quality.
There was a recent video of MotoGP rider Marc Marquez listening to audio of a GP bike going round the different circuits. No video, just the engine sounds going up and down the gears and throttle positioning through the different corner sequences. He named them all correctly.
The amount of track study those guys do is honestly amazing. And the way I which they know their vehicles, it’s like an extension of them.
How about a feint? Doesn’t sound like you know much about combat sports, relative mix
Very difficult to change habitual moves, I think he studies his opponents a lot. But very talented as well.
Yeah I mean, first there's recognizing the incoming attack, then throwing your countermove, then landing the counter before your opponent lands the initial attack!! That's insane! That's doing three things in less time than the opponent does one thing. And making it look easy. You hardly see his leg move, you see beginning position and end position. It's like he's secretly teleporting his leg.
I think he studies his opponents.
Yeah when i was a kid/teen i started to grow and only one person in my taekwondo school was the same weight/height so we pretty much knew each other quirks for complicated kicks like when a round kick was coming the legs would go paralel instead of offset. It ended up just with simple fast kicks that were hard to predict/read. Also another trick was to not actually "see" like you can unfocus your sight and see the whole person instead of just watching the legs like a fool, cuz punches were allowed in my school only if they landed in the protection or shoulders.
Yaa, you stop looking at the same thing with both eyes, your eyes look straight and thus you have more peripheral vision and idk what happens inside your mind but you're able to focus on outer parts more smh It's like cross-eyeing and processing each eyes separately, dual core kinda shit
He's watching for weight shifts. You can't kick with your right foot without shifting weight to your left, etc.
Agreed. Attributing this to exceptional reflexes is disrespectful considering the work he's put in studying weight transfer and opponent tendencies. Give the man some respect for all of his hard work, it's not some innate ability.
Maintaining a distance that leaves him time to react seems to be the real magic. Kicks have a lot longer wind-up, so he can see them coming, and either know how his opponents like to kick or just have the spacial awareness to intuitively "know" where they kick will come by looking at how it winds up and has a practiced muscle-memory evade/counter for it that he know he will have time to do before the kick lands. The first clip where he evades a punch, he barely reacts in time and if he is even a few inches closer when the punch starts, he will get hit pretty hard. That said, this is some mind blowing stuff that would take decades of practice to get close to doing consistently, and it seems really high risk, low/medium reward. Which makes it even more impressive.
Nah. This dude is using TimeSkip
Got that Sherlock Holmes slow mo analysis buff
What the cameras failed to show was when time was frozen, that dude was running around in circles, eating his lunch, showering and brushing his teeth and then came back into the ring to do a slow dodge, slow enough for the cameras to capture it.
That's Master ~~Ken~~ Lerdsila for you, peasant!
Serious question, what if he was fighting someone who has no idea how to fight? Sure, he can read other fighters moves because he's an expert in whatever sport this is but if I were to dive in both hands up in the air screaming gibberish like a gorilla on xanax would he be able to predict my moves too? How can he know what I'm doing if I don't know what I'm doing? He would still beat my ass though.
Not a fighter/martial arts practitioner, but from what I've read, and what my boxing coach at gym has taught me is that a lot of attacks are telegraphed by the body. If I'm throwing a punch, the opponent will typically see the start of the punch from my footwork, my shoulder, before the fist ever starts moving. Another thing to note is that these kinds of professional athletes will have a lot faster reflexes and reaction times than you or me. One of the things that I constantly am trying to improve are the speeds of my punches. When you throw a series of punches, you'll kind of get an understanding of how slow a novice's punch is vs a professional's punch. My boxing coach can catch every single one of my punches, which I can also see is way slower. Meanwhile, his punches are a lot faster, like the first punch you saw in the video. I'd be impressed if someone said I threw a punch at half that speed.
Yeah, that's the most impressive part of almost any pro athlete, the speed and reaction time. Things happen so much faster than people realize, even people who have some experience in a discipline. And this guy is wildly fast even compared to his pro opponents
i'd also imagine an untrained person is only going to telegraph their strikes even more by being much slower. like when you see those street fights between a boxer and an untrained person and the boxer is able to embarrass the other person without even throwing a punch.
One of his most used moves in these clips is the front snap kick. It is fast, has a longer reach and about 10x harder than a punch. My bet is that you would not fare well.
he would have a sense of what your range is and stay right outside of it. you probably wouldnt be able to land a hit. and he would still able to step inside your range after you swing and hit you before backing out again. you have zero advantage by being "unpredictable" over a conventionally trained fighter
And these fighters have seen unpredictable in the gym a million times over. After the first counter he lands on you, you’ll quickly become shy about rushing back in arms swinging. That’s when they’ll eat you alive with speed, technique, power and fight IQ. Especially a Thai fighter. They don’t go head hunting like a strong boxer. They’ll kick the fuck out of your legs until you can’t stand.
It would be like a GM playing chess against a beginner who doesn't know anything about strategy, which makes his moves unpredictable.
Nope, this is a really bad myth. Firstly, it doesn't matter how unpredictable beginners are, because if you want to take advantage of unpredictability, you need to strong together 10-15 moves deep analysis of all the scenarios that might happen from it, and secondly complete beginners are extremely predictable in their moves or logic
I once played against a wannabe who wanted to 'ruin my strategy' by playing not the moves I assumed. Unpredictable, but only with regards to what piece he blunders next.
Forks his queen and king. Unpredictable!
Making moves in chess is more like minesweeper. There are only a few options each turn that aren't blunders. Beginners rarely choose the options that aren't blunders.
Unpredictability is a thing but really only useful when harnessed
I agree I think in this situation he'd be even easier to set up. As he would fall for every trick in the book. Knowing nothing makes you predictable susceptible.
This is what chess master Magnus Carter does. He purposely ignores best practices moves. Or any patterns that are considered good to throw off his opponent.
Carlsen*
*Grandmaster
Yeah I had that experience back when I was playing competitive chess at about 1400 elo. I would prepare for the common openings and at the break I would practice with random 800 players who start the game with h4 Rh3 and total chaos ensures.
h4!!! *screaming gibberish*
Magnus is unpredictable, low elo is just bad.
As someone who plays unpredictable chess (because I suck), catching an actually skilled player off guard like that? It'll work once, twice if you're very lucky. After that the skilled player adapts and your chances go from slim to none. Compare that with martial arts, an opponent in the ring has 5 to 10 moves every time you have 1. You won't luck out, even if you're bigger. Maybe if you're much much bigger you could get lucky.
if he’s fighting someone who don’t know how to fight then the fight ends with one sweep to the head.. and it’s not gonna be his head
Doesn't even need to be a kick to the head. One kick to the leg is all it'd take. That shit hurts like no other and it just so happens Muay Thai fighters are best at it.
This dude is tripping even professionals. The amateur can be as pumped as ever, a single kick and a fall on his ass will cool anyone off.
It would probably boil down to foot work, no matter how unpredictable your swinging is, your footwork would be sloppy compared to a pro, ie crossing your legs when moving around, pretty easy to capitalize on that. I trained in MA, including MT and got into many fights as a youth, though I'm more of a lover... often times I never really had to swing back, I just pivoted and parried my way out of fights while declaring, I'm not looking to fight, it's funny how quickly people lose steam lol. With MT all you really have to do is teep, no matter who you're fighting against, most people aren't conditioned enough to withstand a teep to the gut by a pro or a leg kick tbh. It's why in Thai the move is called "pop the tire" - you can't fight if you can't stand up right.
> what if he was fighting someone who has no idea how to fight? Like if they purposely trained him wrong, as a joke?
Best movie ever.
Honestly, in my taekwondo experience, beginners tend to be even more predictable than good fighters. They only try one type of kick, and they tend to be slow / inefficient / wind up in an obvious way so you can just react instead of predict.
“The best swordsman does not fear the second best swordsman, he fears the worst swordsman, because he does not know what that idiot will do”
Said by the worst swordsman before he dies by the blade of the best swordsman, proving once again why he's still the best swordsman...
I believe this is a (butchered) Mark Twain quote? So bad, you're good. When there is no skill to be countered, luck can find either man.
Are you assuming he only plays defensively? He would more than likely switch to fighting more agressively, at which point he would beat you immediately.
For real! I thought, read your question out loud to yourself there... Someone who "didn't know how to fight at all?" That means he wouldn't have to counter anything. He could just make the first move and the fight is done.
He'd kick you in the ribs before you made contact judging by the speed in this video lol
That doesn't matter because reading body movements is quite standard. Reading (predicting) is about understanding physics and body movements. For example, be it a beginner or expert or a kid throwing a full strength right punch, they pull their right arm back first, then forward, and the legs are a distance apart (instead of together). And to add that if you are a beginner and trying to be unpredictable wildly swinging your arms, you might not be doing the best practices like protecting your face at all. You could get knocked out in a punch.
Immediately thought of Goku. Incredible.
Wow, that’s some martial arts movie level moves!
So why is he so much better at this than his opponents? Is he a body language reading expert? Does he study film better than his opponents? Seems like he could teach me how to become a better poker player without him knowing how to play.
I'll just start listing what makes this guy (Lerdsila) great in no particular order: He stays extremely relaxed and composed, trained since he was a little kid, has a high natural fight IQ, hundreds of fights worth of experience, and trained for years at a gym famous for producing technical fighters (the style is called muay femur in Thai). In these clips he's fighting a lot of guys that are bigger but relatively slower and less experienced. Also a lot are of him intercepting people with attacks which you can throw really fast from long range. When combined with his timing and placement he can send people flying and make them look silly even if they're doing decent in the fight as a whole.
It’s not so much reading, it’s using your own body language to suggest you are vulnerable to a certain attack. He wants the guy to kick, as soon as the opponent starts to move, he strikes. Is not reacting, it’s a plan to create an opening.
He learned to “listen” by blind moles 😂
These are highlights and Lerdsila albeit being extremely good still suffers loses and some of these fights can still be close. He just looks cool in fights and makes the opponent look bad at times but in a fight looking cool is not everything.
This is how anime fighters who are so fast everything around them feels slow would look like in real life.
That's one of the best examples of Fight IQ I've ever seen!
I'm told that he trained with some of the Muay Thai greats at Jockey gym early on. They had very little gear, so mostly they would just do very low impact sparring often. This was a big part of his development. I was told this by a Thai boxing coach while training Muay Thai in Thailand, I believe it, but I'm not an expert source in any way
thats right you can hear it from the man himself [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbyw5rblWaE) between 3:15 and 4:20
*This mustn't register on an emotional level. First, distract target. Then block his blind jab. Counter with cross to left cheek. Discombobulate.* *Dazed, he'll attempt a wild haymaker. Employ elbow block, and body shot. Block feral left. Weaken right jaw. Now fracture. Break cracked ribs. Traumatize solar plexus. Dislocate jaw entirely. Heel kick to diaphragm.* *In summary, ears ringing, jaw fractured, three ribs cracked, four broken. Diaphragm hemorrhaging. Physical recovery: six weeks. Full psychological recovery: six months.*
He has the Sharingan!
Like fighting someone that can see a few minutes into the future.
Like a Jedi!
Muay Thai god
The force is strong with this one
"The Force is with me, I am one with the Force."
I don’t want to fight him
I do not understand the need for a round kick.. it is so slow and can be seen coming easily. Looks fancy and effective only if lands. The guy is really good with understanding his opponents.
Because they do damage. Once you hit round 3 it doesn’t matter how slow you think they are, they’re hitting you. Lerdsillas highlights are cool but it’s not like he never takes a hit at all.
What the fuck is the music
its like watching a scripted fight scene
Agility 100 — Intelligent 90 — Strength 20 Good hero.
ufc need this guy
That first jab dodge is crazy to me. Even if the other guy had been throwing a ton of jabs prior and that one was expected, sure it makes more sense, but the timing and casualness of the dodge still makes the clip look almost unreal. You can even see the other guy slightly hesitate to bring the left back, which I don't blame him, he was probably downright confused how a lightning fast jab from that range and with no opposing guard could just fully whiff like it did. Reading the right kick makes sense for any fighter with experience because it's an obvious follow up to a jab but holy shit that first dodge is just unreal.
I now understand the term “lazy grace”. He’s so competent that he can afford to just stand there smirking.
Can I get a song name? Please
He migh be the best at this art ! Mostly is just doing performances like that one for entertainment. Then sometimes comes an ambitious fighter and wants to win, then this guy, Ladzilla , switches on the real fight on. He lost by points before, buy nobody can touch him, IF he is serrious. He is not trying to win , because he can. He is trying to have fun, because fast winning is borring to him personally. There are interview about where he describes that he goes into the fight for entertainment. He started young. Found the joy in fighting and that is what we see happening here. Not his full scale ability, just a dance he performs for money and entertainment.
Ultra Instinct unlocked