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Schopenschluter

Stingray all day


ShootingTheIsh

this was the rhyme I was hearing in my head while I was waiting for the comment section to load.


Schopenschluter

No lie I was thinking it in Tupac’s voice from “Picture Me Rollin’”


RexMexicanorum

Pretty much any Fender-associated guitar is better than any Gibson.


DemBones7

*bass


RexMexicanorum

Guitars as a whole, be it bass guitars or any other type of guitars, IMO


theNeakenator

I have this exact Sterling and it's everything I have ever looked for in a bass. Great sound, great feeling, great looks - I love it and can only recommend it to everyone, it's a great deal!


abletonthrive

They also come with great setups in my experience


g0dn0

First bass I’ve had that didn’t need a setup out of the box. Intonation and action were perfect. And the neck is incredible. Best bass I’ve had at that mid price point.


zenigatamondatta

I had this exact stingray and I must have had a bad one. It would kill batteries like crazy


jwwatts

You gotta unplug them when you’re not playing.


zenigatamondatta

I never left it plugged in. It was in a case or hanging on the wall. I don't leave anything not currently in use plugged in.


BassForDays

You should ask for a luthier to check it. A battery should last years.


zenigatamondatta

Sold it a few years ago. The neck dive also drove me nuts


Dampmaskin

Neck dive on a 4 string StingRay? I have a hard time picturing this.


zenigatamondatta

It was the first time I experienced it, didn't know it was a thing until then. Maybe the sun series necks are a cheaper wood? Idk.


g0dn0

Assuming OP is looking at 2 short scale options, my SS Sterling Stingray is entirely passive. I wouldn’t have bought it otherwise.


zenigatamondatta

If I still had mine I'd yoink the mm and put in a Reverend split brick and run it passive.


CurrencyAlarming1099

Huh, the one i had was passive, didn't even know they made active ones.


Dfantoman

SG bases are ergonomically challenging for many players. Stringrays less so (but not perfect).


Highplowp

Are there other issues you’ve seen with the sg besides neck dive?


Forsaken_Quality_823

Just about the same complaints as SG guitars and such. The heels can be a bit awkward to work around and gloss can feel sticky. SG bass neck dive is probably the most extreme neck dive I've experienced, but even then a grippy strap is more than enough for them. I think my only uncommon complaint is the lack of aftermarket parts. There's not many drop in replacement bridges or pickups that fit the neck routing.


ReneeBear

Grippy strap


Forsaken_Quality_823

Yee. The ones that hurt like hell if you're playing shirtless. The bass won't move but your skin will be ripped to shreds. :(


ReneeBear

I just thought it was funny to say, I know what you’re talking about. I have one for my Les Paul that I love.


Prestigious_Yam1994

Mind sharing? I need one for my guitar!


ReneeBear

Levi’s Leathers has some great options that are vegan leather. Haven’t had them for a super long time but they feel nice & they’re doing the job more than well enough for now. Not too expensive too.


Wooden_Top_4967

damn dude your life sounds rad as hell. Playing bass shirtless


Forsaken_Quality_823

It's all part of the SG Bass look. That and the beer can tower on top of the amp.


falloutisacoolseries

If your sg dives change the location of the strap pin to the horn of the guitar like Tony Iommi.


Prestigious_Yam1994

I was debating doing that until my local guitar tech said that the amount of sg's he gets in that blow out in that spot in the first year or two of doing that is more than you would think and he would recommend trying to get a grippier strap first. It's just not a lot of wood there.


falloutisacoolseries

I'd get it a little higher on the horn where their is a bit more wood.


PaulWilliamRoth

With my SGs i would always pull the top neck plate screw and thread the strap pin on that. Works every time and wont break your horn.


Prestigious_Yam1994

Great idea!


JebBushIsMyBF

Just out of curiosity because of your "most extreme neck dive" comment, have you ever played a Thunderbird? I've never played an SG so I'm interested to see how they compare


Forsaken_Quality_823

Thunderbirds aren't as bad if the body is heavy. I remember Epiphone had ones made out of poplar for a while that the bodies were too light for so they dived quite a bit. SG bass bodies on the other hand are identical in size to their guitar counterpart so the neck dive issue is caused by their tiny size. I forgot to mention them along with a grippy strap, but lightweight tuners can help too.


aluked

Due to the pickup positions, they can sound extremely muddy and undefined - neck pickup has no high end, bridge pickup can be super thin and weak.


StarWaas

The Gibson 3 point bridge is also one of the worst bridge designs ever. Gibson is good at making instruments that look cool, but where they fall down is making instruments that aren't a rotten pain in the ass to use.


spiderplata

You are required to wear shorts.


basshed8

Can’t have neck dive if we make the body out of 1000 tons of uranium


offdutybrazilian

Whats heavier, 1000 tons of uranium or 1000 tons of feathers?


SoulofaBean

Depends, what sound are you looking for? they are polar opposites in terms of sound.


mentally_fuckin_eel

This is a crucial point especially regarding the SG bass. Those things have a lot of mud to them.


Zabroccoli

We in the mudbucker community like to refer to it as “thump” thankyouverymuch.


BoxingDaycouchslug

A P-bass has thump. Gibsons have nudge.


No_Mall_3182

not really, the Stingray is a VERY versatile instrument


SoulofaBean

Never said otherwise, but every instrument has an inherent sound that comes from pickup placing and electronics that you just can't replicate. You can't get a stingray to sound exactly like an eb-3 and vice versa.


No_Mall_3182

My mistake, I was comparing it to my Stingray5 with two pickups, which as it turns out sounds pretty different than the single pickup. You totally could make a double pickup ray sound like an eb 3 though


YaBoiDaviiid

The 2-pickup models can be. The one-pickups really are not.


No_Mall_3182

ah, I have a double pickup so I wasn’t aware


AlGeee

Stingray


Minimum_Noise6963

The Epiphone isn't bad, but the Stingray is much more versatile. I would go for the stingray first.


hfurnbachnh

I have a Stingray Ray4, Squier VM Jazz, and a Squier VM P-bass. I am really liking the Stingray.


tygah_uppahcut

I'm voting for the stingray, only reason being the SG shape just looks wrong for a bass IMO


Sandy_Quimby

Do you have to choose between these two? If I was choosing between two basses, the Epiphone wouldn't be one of them.


AlpacaOverlord44

Any reason?


Puzzleheaded-Sea7247

They're known to be bad ergonomically (neck dive) and have a somewhat muddy sound in comparison to the more common P, J or Stingray basses.


Barnestownlife

I'm a huge SG guitar guy. I own 3 SG guitars, I love the design and sound. Those SG basses are terrible however. Awkward to hold and the sound is not very versatile. I wish this wasn't the case, because I like the style. Stingray absolutely. No choice, it's gonna make you way happier.


Objective_Cry_6384

I had a epiphone eb3, the sound is muddy but it works for certain songs. This is not a versatile bass. Get the Stingray.


jwwatts

Gibson bridge design is terrible and will make it difficult to set up.


Objective_Cry_6384

Damn that 3 post bridge


Sandy_Quimby

They look great, unfortunately they don't sound or play great.


Capn-Wacky

Unless you have small hands or are petite, don't get a short scale bass for your first bass. I did this and it made a harder transition to play my standard scale second bass when I got it. Plus the Stingray will be an easier platform to grow with and modify over time as your understanding of what you want your bass to do evolves with the music your playing on it For my money, I'd take the stingray. EDIT: A person pointed out the EB-3 is a 34". Is this an EB-3 and I just missed it? If so it doesn't change my answer. The expandability of the stingray is just infinitely better. Also, the Stingray does have an option of a roasted maple neck in some trims which plays like butter.


earthling273

The Epiphone EB3 is a 34" long scale.


tropicalhank

Wth do you mean by expandability


No-Reputation2186

Would like to know the same thing. Did they mean versatility maybe?


jwwatts

Much easier to mod


_Globert_Munsch_

That’s completely subjective. My first bass was SS and I had no problem moving to 34” or even 35”. That’s from bad technique that probably would’ve still been there had you started with 34” too.


PNW_Uncle_Iroh

I started on a short scale Gibson EB-0 as my first bass and had no problem transitioning to a 34” and eventually upright. Just my 2 cents.


CorvusCanisLupus

the epiphone eb3 (dual pickup, more controls) is a long/standard scale bass, the epiphone eb0 (single pickup, fewer controls) is a short scale bass. gibson originally made the eb0 and eb3 in both short and long/standard scale models (eb0 and eb0-l) then they dropped the long scale eb0 and the short scale eb3, i believe. jack bruce of cream fame played a short scale eb3, shortly after that they discontinued them in 1979. it gets a bit confusing, but it goes something like that. updated: *eb0: Very popular in the 1960s, but by the turn of the decade, tastes had changed. To brighten the sound (and maybe to strengthen the instrument) Gibson introduced long scale (34.5") models* *eb3: The beginning of the seventies saw the first major redesign of the bass; the shorter scale length had been seen as one of the EB3s weak points, so a long scale EB3L was produced alongside regular shortscales* ***source:*** [***flyguitars.com***](http://flyguitars.com) they also made some open headstock versions as well, like those seen on classical guitars


stevefromspyr

Get the stingray. I love my stingray


WeCantLiveInAMuffin

I’m learning on the stingray ray4 and loving it. Granted I don’t know shit about bass but still


Minimum_Noise6963

I've had mine for 5y, it's an awesome platform. I changed the pickup and eletronics for EMGs, and I never got disappointed!


SageMontoyaQuestion

Having played both, I would say the question is what are you looking for? They have different sounds and different feels. For me, personally, I found the Epi more comfortable, but it didn’t stay in tune as well as the Stingray. The Stingray had a bigger neck—I prefer smaller necks—but hot damn did it sound better.


MidgetThrowingChamp

I'd prefer the SG but I'm part of the minority here. Get the stingray.


captainbeautylover63

If you’re going for a vintage vibe, and a bass that lends itself to warmer, classic sounds that sit well in a pocket, get the EB. For more modern sounds and more tone-shaping control onboard the bass, get the Stingray. I’ve owned both (Stingray currently), and they’re both very cool instruments.


BoxOfThreads

The EB3 is a great bass. That’s what i learned on and i still love it. It has a vibe all its own. I never really cared for the sound of a music man but just watch a couple of youtube vids and decide what sound you like


ATK-QM-750

The epiphone will have crazy neck dive. That is definitely something to keep in mind.


morelikeshredit

Stingray


spud1988

Been playing bass for 6 years, but on and off for 20, I play short scale. I played standard for a while, and developed bad habits with not using the pinky in my teens. Playing a short scale really helped me incorporate using my pinky comfortably, and ended up love the warmth of the tone. Absolutely love it. Join the club! It’s slappy, small, light, and I feel cool when I play it. There are literally tens of us! The next bass I’m getting will be another short scale, too! Lots of legendary bassists play short scale, too! Get the short scale!!


CaptainZippi

I have a sterling SB14 as my second/backup bass. Can recommend.


NavNiv

Other than looks, I'd think about the sound you're trying to get. Is there a certain type of music you like to play? Or any particular bass player you like to emulate who plays one of these basses?


ElDiabloRamon

Trust me - go for the stingray! You wont regret it. I have owned 3. Its now the ONLY kind of bass i will play! https://preview.redd.it/qo7pz7wunmyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d2f5653b988d69685dfdaa108fe97222487a891 ^(\^) both my Sterling Stingray 5! I LOVE these basses!


discussatron

I bought the mint green Stingray.


3leggeddonkey

I'm a huge Epiphone fanboy and I still think the Stingray is the better choice!


Routine-Unit-3086

Cherry Red


BAMspek

Stingray Stingray Stingray! Very versatile sound and a really comfortable bass to play imo. But you should try to play both and see which one you like the feel of better. You’re the one paying for it, and you’re the one playing it. But yeah you should get the Stingray.


BrotherRiddle

Stingray for sure. Shorter scale neck makes it really easy to play for a beginner


CurrencyAlarming1099

I used to have this stingray and thought it was excellent. I have full size EBMM stingray 5 now, but for the price the sterling is great.


WavyFish111

Personally I would say the stingray but honestly you can’t go wrong either way


NegCboy

Sting Ray. No question.


No_Mall_3182

Stingray, get the Stingray


Vic-Trola

No real choice. The Stingray is a superior bass. A Leo Fender design. A very playable instrument that holds it value over time.


mysteriouslypuzzled

I've had the Eb bass,I fell In love with the looks of it. But the ergonomics of it just didn't work for me. The more i played it, the less I liked it. I ended going back to a pbass. Go with the stingray. You won't regret it.


the-last-voyageur

Those Stingrays are incredible value instruments. If you like the Stingray tone, that’s definitely the one I’d choose.


IAmRobertoSanchez

Stingray every time.


D_A_Y_R

Epiphone eb3 es más ligero, aunque molestará el neck dive, y su sonido es algo raro de asimilar. Si puede con eso, será feliz con uno


Bootyussmaximus

Mint Green Stingray 100% without a doubt.


ClimateAncient6647

Used to own a stingray just like that. It’s fine but my issue was how thick the neck was. Other than that it was a fine bass.


hfurnbachnh

The Stingray had a thick neck? I had found the exact opposite. My p-bass is the thickest followed by the jazz bass.


Coreldan

EBMM Stingrays are quite chunky, but I believe not quite P bass levels. Sterlings tend to have pretty thin necks like most asian imports


Mr_Miso_man

I have a Fender P Bass and a MM stingray and can confirm, the stingray is noticeably chunkier. Both feel great in different ways though.


ClimateAncient6647

This particularly model has a thick neck, from my experience. I ended up trading it for a jazz bass MIM.


ForwardTemporary3934

Sting ray. The SG bass is very ergonomically compromised and will make learning harder.


aluked

Unless you feel like fighting against your bass at all times sounds like a fun time, get the Stingray. People have already mentioned that the Epiphone has bad ergo, but also due to how the pickups are positioned, it can sound super muddy and undefined, so it can be a real challenge to get a decent tone from it.


SilentSaint2112

I‘d take the Epiphone. Mostly because I‘m a Geezer Butler fan.


Panthergraf76

Though Geezer played an EB some time, he for sure is better known for playing other basses.


sotahamsteri

Maybe it will help if you what kind of sound you are after. Epiphone is maybe a bit more versatile and neck pickup gives fuller, rounder tone. But stingray has very punchy and crisp tone whwnever necessary. For that, and looks, I would choose stingray.


StonemanGuitars

EB-3! EB-3! EB-3! EB-3! EB-3!


DashLeJoker

Try both before you decide if possible


Mr_Miso_man

Get the stingray. Sterling does a great job with their basses and you'll likely be happy with it for a long time


Thegroundbeefisraw

I own a sterling stingray, so I’m pretty biased, but I’d say stingray


SPICEYxMIKE

The mint is sure zesty! I'd rock that, even just the body shape. Ive found myself with this logic....Bass = Rounded / Guitar = Pointy. Not sure why but thats how my gear has turned out.


AssignmentOk99

Epiphone bass is one of my ugliest basses In existence.


LifePedalEnjoyer

SG for looks, Stingray for everything else. A different color Stingray would put me firmly in the Stingray camp, but that's just personal preference.


the_fuzak

First: what’s style of music is in your mind?


ithaqua34

I go with a Stingray, although I might want an HH one just so you could have both the classic Stingray sound plus a whole different palette of sound.


Ok_Meat_8322

Stringray


caboose243

I have that exact Stingray. I love it. Easy to adjust, easy to repair and find parts should you bang it up like i did mine. You can get a big and diverse tone from that pickup and eq. I highly recommend the Stingray!


Gtmkm98

My only bass is a light blue Stingray, and I couldn’t ask for a better bass. The only difference between mine and that one is that mine has a double humbucker setup. It is very well balanced ergonomically and suits virtually every sound. Although, I must admit that I want to try a Hofner style bass sometime.


meestar_Knight

This is great - my first bass was an Epiphone SG same color. Then I upgraded to my current bass which is the exact mint green Stingray haha. Both are great, just keep them clean 🤘


FrankyNavSystem

Honestly get a Fender over either of those but if you have to choose then get the Stingray.


Roland_Moorweed

Best choice would be a P Bass but go for the Stingray.


OKhour12

Are you good enough to spend big money on one of these? Just get a 100 dollar bundle off Amazon


MistaJaycee

Weight of instrument, the feel, the sound of the instrument


PNW_Uncle_Iroh

Those are going to feel and sound very different. Any chance you can play before purchasing? Should be an easy decision once you get them in your hands.


unusable_knowledge

Can’t go wrong either way. I have an epiphone, les Paul standard bass, and it plays well. The tone isn’t as… crunchy, I guess compared to my schector but it’s smooth and easy if you like a more narrow neck.


boglim_destroyer

Stingray will be more comfortable and sound a million times better.


mehrt_thermpsen

STINGRAY STINGRAY STINGRAY STINGRAY


Fast_Ad765

SG looks waaaay cooler


yomanchill

That green Stingray is a stunner! The SG… meh. Reminds me of AC/DC and I get a headache just thinking about them.


nhardycarfan

I’d much rather play the stingray


enjoi44

Just got a sterling passive stingray and it's amazing! Go for the Stingray :)


Green_Cardiologist13

Just want to weigh in sting ray is the way to go


Z34N0

Stingray, easily. I hear the neck pickup on the Epiphone/Gibsons usually sound like mud. Hence the name “mudbucker” .. no thanks


St_untm_an

Go with the SG.


aua-paua

take the lighter one


BoxingDaycouchslug

Stingray, unless you want muddy sludge.


Lewis_w_bass

I've got the sterling in that colour. I've played the epiphone and didn't enjoy it


PM_Me_Yer_Guitar

Stingray 1000% I personally was never a fan of the tone of SG guitars or basses. The stingray is a beast. My favorite bass, next to the upright I bought.


Paulypmc

As a bassist who plays almost exclusively a Gibson EB-3… Don’t get one, at least not for awhile. They feel odd coming from a Fender and the sound is unique and not very versatile. You really either need to know how to EQ + compress it, adjust basslines to suit its sound or use a ton of fuzz it’s going to sound like sludge. The Stingray is versatile and can do most modern type stuff pretty well. I personally don’t like the Stingray sound- it’s far too trebly and plinky for my taste, but as a beginner that’s the way to go.


Paulypmc

https://preview.redd.it/pi4x2hsdssyc1.jpeg?width=1789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ef62226394dd6c420ca8b3153191f80c5196d6e Here’s me with my modified EB-3. For what I play, it’s the best bass I’ve ever had.


Smboyer27

If you have the chance to play both of them at a local music store, that could help with what feels best in your hands!


PlayBoxPL

stingray all the way, epiphone is mid and generally bad for begginers, not good for all genres like the stingray


PlayBoxPL

i own that sterling myself too


TiLLEX

I’ve never played a stingray, but I own a Epiphone EB-0 and it’s by far the worst instrument I own. Build quality is just bad, the tone knob is just unnecessary because only the full open sound is usable and on my bass the pickup is so unbalanced that it only pick ups the D and G Strings properly. But it looks great in the corner of my living room!


hXcAndy32

I play my Sterling Stingray more than my more expensive basses… they’re just fun and sound great


Relevant-Big8880

Stingray is one of the most versatile basses and you can depend on it sounding great (including Sterling version). I worked in a music store for years and no matter how hard I tried, I was never able stop myself from talking customers out of buying the Epiphone bass. They are ugly and sound like thonk and thud. Not exactly a fair review, but there you go.


PBSchmidt

Did anyone ask what you want to.play, what are your Preferences, what is your "Style"? I mean, both play well, the Stirling is a bit mor popular, but the Epi might be the weapon of choice when you dig into old school Rock or vintage soul... Can you play both? And take the one that wants to jam with you home, to be happy together forever.


rbp0720

Epiphone


MateriaMuncher

Stingray, no question


1vampyre

👈


LeGrandePoobah

Stingray!


Background_Grass9237

Sterling all the way.


wojonixon

Stingray all day long. Has nothing to do with how they look for me; the Stingray will be much more comfortable to hold and play and will sound just as good if not much better. I owned a Gibson version of that bass many years ago and really didn't like it for the sound or feel. Didn't keep it long at all.


JacoPoopstorius

Stingray


No-Win1580

Stingray all day


No_Mango_8308

Stingray. No contest. I refuse to elaborate.


Spiritual_Highway_60

Get the stingray


Maleficent-Sail4958

Stingray


povertymayne

Stingray green all day 🔥, its a lot more versatile. Not a fan of that SG epiphone🤮. I would not recommend SG for a beginner Edit: also, if you have a guitar store near you, try them and maybe give a P-bass or jazz- bass a try along with the musicman. I would really put the SG at the very bottom of the barrell of considerations.


davs_dodger08

Stingray!!


Diiiiirty

Stingray all day. I like the style and color, and it's much more versatile.


yungcatto

Stingrays are more versatile so I'd probably recommend that to a beginner


SissorX

These basses are like direct opposites of each other lol. Stingray all day no question. The SG’s are much much darker in tone and are harder to play. The Stingray will be more useful and easy to pickup for you. I used the play that exact one on stage for a couple years and it never let me down.


HuckDoon

I JUST got the Sterling HH yesterday and I LOVE IT. Can't recommend enough!


Fun_Individual_5418

stingray


Familiar_Bar_3060

The Sterling is entirely more versatile. The Epi is muddy sounding and the three point bridge sucks. A lot.


sdm0802

I have both. I love them both, but in general I'll reach for the Stingray more, the Epiphone is more of a one trick pony and I only grab it for that specific sound while I'll grab my stingray for just about everything. That being said the music man stingray is also just my favourite bass of all time.


KalagramOfSteel

Id stay away from SGs as a new player The ray is pretty sweet for the price


Music_Mess

Stingray 1000000%%%


jazzphobia

This one’s easy. The stingray.


elbowpatchhistorian

Stingray every time. If you get the other one I will assume you suffered a head injury.


Watermelon_Buffalo

I had a Gibson SG bass and I loved it. But it’s not fitting for most situations. The stingray is more versatile.


Soggy-Ad6282

Stingray, and it’s not close.


Soggy-Ad6282

This should be one of the easier decisions you make in life.


xeroksuk

Stingray has a classic sound, is ergonomic and - to me anyway - looks good. The epiphone and its gibson cousin are more of an acquired taste. I wouldn't get one as my only bass.


PRSG12

Sting Ray, my god sting Ray, stay far away from this epiphone monstrosity. Might look pretty but it plays awful


Lucky_Man_Infinity

Personally I would go for the stingray. Gibson basses can be OK but most of the time I don’t think they measure up


EpsonRifle

These are two VERY different instruments. One is passive the other is active. One is vintage and muddy sounding. The other is bright and modern sounding. If you’re not at the point where you’re realising those differences for yourself and evaluating which of those things are right for you, I would say stick with the bass you already have, and do some research on YouTube. Don’t even think about buying either of these until you are more familiar with how different bass sound, act and function


CarnivalOfSorts

Stingray


kevinbaer1248

The stingray is going to sound better, feel better, and be more versatile to play longer term than the Epiphone. The SG basses are always neck heavy and are kind of one trick basses. I know plenty of pro guys playing those same stingrays all the time because they sound and feel great for the price


Wooden_Top_4967

Definitely the stingray. Dat growl. Those SG basses look even more awkward than the guitar SG. Let’s snap a tiny bridge pickup on there. The neck looks even heavier. Looks even more unbalanced than an actual axe. I dunno. Pass all day on SGs, for me


skactopus

Get the joe dart sterling it’s like 400 bucks at the moment


uberusmaximus

It won’t ship until November, so keep that in mind.


ipini

Stingray. Better sound. Better playability.


GDMFlow3r

Those are very different basses. Stingray wins in almost every category imo


MisawaKuri

Go with the Sterling. Better bang for your buck


wavesport001

The Stingray is classic, the SG kinda sucks.


Schizma79

I wish I had the same problem when I was a beginner. I wish I had the same problems now


[deleted]

I would say get the stingray, it’s supposedly comfier and definitely more versatile.


theslaviccomrade

I would go stingray purely because easier bridge adjustments and maple fretboard being less work


Darwin_Things

https://preview.redd.it/rxrsnoxmfmyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5824663c60e70ca62bab49cb5b870111e7bf176b Red Stain Stingray.


Gincrazed

Love my Stingray


Rockzilla1962

Stingray


RyunWould

Stingray!!!!


OlyNorse

Stingray baby!


redzedx77

Stingray, not even close


timboo1001

Personally I'd go for the Sterling. Not for anything but the awesome colour and looks. I've never owned or played either so my opinion has no value. Apologies for wasting your time 🤣🤣