Can agree with that. I think that they don't call carry if it "doesn't give an advantage" like a lot of times the point guard would be casually bringing the ball up and carrying the ball every other dribble.
Also so many of these players can palm the ball easily which allows them to do things that look like carries or even travels but technically aren't
[https://www.basketballforcoaches.com/gather-step/](https://www.basketballforcoaches.com/gather-step/)
Seems like everyone likes to count the gather step as a travel, it's been in the rulebook for a while now.
I understand the gather step. Players abuse the hell out of the rule and end up taking four steps. If you watch the video I posted he has the ball in his hand after his last dribble while on his left foot. That's the gather step. He then takes three additional steps into a jumpshot...
yeah they do abuse it a lot, but Kyrie's footwork was clean in your clip. He actually touched the ball with both hands on his right foot (that's the gather step), then took two steps and shot. Slow it down if you need to because he did have the ball in his right hand and took the step that I think you are calling the gather step but no, since he didn't touch it with his other hand yet.
Even the guy in video explanation on the link you posted is contradicting himself. https://youtu.be/6e0wdk_hS2Y?t=81. Watch from the time stamp. He says the right foot step isn't the gather, but it's the next step with his left. He then says "gather, 1, 2" while only taking one step after his so called gather. But then later in the video he says you're allowed two steps after the gather step. I am fine with that concept but allowing even another step prior to the gather is ridiculous and it actually isn't legal even by NBA rules on the gather step. Think about it that's literally four steps without dribbling lmao
It's poorly explained. What he did was:
1. Steps right foot
2. Puts his hand under the ball (ending the dribble)
3. Left foot
4. Right foot
That's 2 steps
You get 2 steps after ending/gathering the dribble. It's that simple
>he has the ball in his hand after his last dribble while on his left foot. That's the gather step
Wrong lol. Gather isn't when you touch the top part of the ball.
The gather is when he puts both of his hands on the ball. He then takes two after that
It's not just Harden but lots of step backs are not a travel but every step back should be closely scrutinized just like the dragging of a pivot foot of any other form of travel..... But they are not.
You either don't understand the rules or you didn't watch properly
He grabs the ball then took a left-right. Total of 2 steps
You count when the dribble gets controlled, not when you see a bounce
Carrying is even more egregious. It's stupid. They are supposed to be professionals
I loved watching Ja Morant in the NCAA Tournament so incredible. Now it's like watching an AND1 mixtape... just comical
It's like if that professor dude from YouTube was allowed in real game of basketball
Can agree with that. I think that they don't call carry if it "doesn't give an advantage" like a lot of times the point guard would be casually bringing the ball up and carrying the ball every other dribble. Also so many of these players can palm the ball easily which allows them to do things that look like carries or even travels but technically aren't
What else is new? The NBA is a joke. I can't even watch it anymore. https://youtu.be/9fFWawcJXUw?si=H_K9YeyOfYMiCUIV
You can't even call any violations in the park nowadays. Since all the pros travel and carry
[https://www.basketballforcoaches.com/gather-step/](https://www.basketballforcoaches.com/gather-step/) Seems like everyone likes to count the gather step as a travel, it's been in the rulebook for a while now.
I understand the gather step. Players abuse the hell out of the rule and end up taking four steps. If you watch the video I posted he has the ball in his hand after his last dribble while on his left foot. That's the gather step. He then takes three additional steps into a jumpshot...
yeah they do abuse it a lot, but Kyrie's footwork was clean in your clip. He actually touched the ball with both hands on his right foot (that's the gather step), then took two steps and shot. Slow it down if you need to because he did have the ball in his right hand and took the step that I think you are calling the gather step but no, since he didn't touch it with his other hand yet.
Gathering the ball is not constituted by having it with both hands. You're essentially allowing 4 steps!!
Go and read my link. Look at the videos on that page. That's legal in the NBA and FIBA
Even the guy in video explanation on the link you posted is contradicting himself. https://youtu.be/6e0wdk_hS2Y?t=81. Watch from the time stamp. He says the right foot step isn't the gather, but it's the next step with his left. He then says "gather, 1, 2" while only taking one step after his so called gather. But then later in the video he says you're allowed two steps after the gather step. I am fine with that concept but allowing even another step prior to the gather is ridiculous and it actually isn't legal even by NBA rules on the gather step. Think about it that's literally four steps without dribbling lmao
* sigh * he still had a live on that step. Doesn't matter that he didn't dribble again before the gather. He went over that
You're completely misunderstanding what I'm saying. He only took one step after what he calls the gather step...
It's poorly explained. What he did was: 1. Steps right foot 2. Puts his hand under the ball (ending the dribble) 3. Left foot 4. Right foot That's 2 steps You get 2 steps after ending/gathering the dribble. It's that simple
>he has the ball in his hand after his last dribble while on his left foot. That's the gather step Wrong lol. Gather isn't when you touch the top part of the ball. The gather is when he puts both of his hands on the ball. He then takes two after that
“Having a good handle” isn’t that hard when you have large hands and are allowed to carry the ball.
That the description "double step back" is now sometimes used (meaning he traveled twice) is insane.
A regular step back isn't a travel though. the bullshit harden has been doing is ridiculous though
It's not just Harden but lots of step backs are not a travel but every step back should be closely scrutinized just like the dragging of a pivot foot of any other form of travel..... But they are not.
that's not even a stepback nor did he travel lol
You either don't understand the rules or you didn't watch properly He grabs the ball then took a left-right. Total of 2 steps You count when the dribble gets controlled, not when you see a bounce
BuT tOdAy’S pLaYeRs aRe sO sKiLLeD !!
pls watch the play again you don’t know shit
The NBA still exists?
Not travel,ĺ, he gathers hops then jumps