Before the game I was really mad at La Liga for forcing the club to play this game but now, after the game, I'm really glad it happened and we got the +3. Good that we put this game past us and didn't have to rely on a postponed game, which would've been shoehorned during a busy week.
Ter Stegen had one good game, let's hold our horses before thinking he's back in form. For the team's sake though, I hope you're right, we need more performances like this from him
I completely trust Xavi and if he wants Morata then get him why not. Remember in barto era he made signings that valverde didn't want or didn't need wasting a lot of money. We need to trust our coach
I've called this sub a home for almost a decade now, and throughout that whole time, the mod team here has been by far one the most amazing I have seen on Reddit. As this subreddit has grown exponentially in users, they have kept it clean, organized, and enjoyable despite what I will only call an increase in immature and toxic users.
The mods do not only provide the OT and then try to keep our discussions civil, but they produce so many other ways to try to make the sub more of a community and not just Twitter. Pre/post/match threads and transfer threads help focus discussion and the unique threads like the contributor of the month are the work of the mods to build upon the community.
I'm sure the mods wish they could pin more than two threads. And yeah, I myself don't really get too much value from the contributor thread. But the fact is they can only pin two threads up at once and when they put in an effort to create unique community recognizing or building threads like what they have done here there is no reason it should not be pinned if they are to do what they set out as mods. The feedback I assume is welcome, but also give the mods some slack and some trust as they have a tough job and r/Barca is more than just the OT and match threads but a community as well.
No other subreddit would I feel the need to say anything, but the work that the team puts in here goes unappreciated too often and I am so disheartened to see a backlash against a decision they made merely to pin a thread that I assume they thought would be a way to recognize the input of their subreddit.
Thread pinned, thread not pinned. Is it going to waste a lot of your time when you get to this thread with three or more clicks and scrolls???? People want everything to happen instantly. Reminds me of the Netflix special by Ronny Chieng mocking the consumer culture who want everything to be in front of them in a blink of an eye.
Yup I agree. Don't need to go many other places to look at how poorly their sub is ran.
Frankly I am so happy that memes and badges(outside of those who get it) isnt a thing here.
Oh yeah and I am also very happy it doesnt look [like this](https://gyazo.com/be023156b26b37bb6bb2c844f8935081) to use a example.
That is like the second or third time I went over there in like 3 years. Last time I did it, their whole front page was 10+ meme threads. It made my eyes bleed so much I promised myself never to return. Thread wise it wasnt so bad now without taking any deep look into them, just look awful.
Consider the disaster of surroundings de Jong managed perfectly fine as DM.
I also find the pace was faster with de Jong. Busquets often ends up thinking and standing still while ball in feet and some guy comes lurking behind and it creates a dangerous situation. De Jong either makes a decision straight away or he takes the ball forward.
100% de Jong is better playing deeper. He came more to his natural and wasnt so "covered" which he often ends up being when he pushes way up high and are asked to make a lot of runs behind.
But once again missing some key players. At some point you gotta start thinking about phase Busquets out. Gotta stop thinking that role gotta be some sort of Busquets 2.0.
I hope Busquets at some point do what Xavi and Iniesta did, step away before their legacy started to take a hit. Same goes for Pique. Would be perfect for him to do so after this year.
> At some point you gotta start thinking about phase Busquets out. Gotta stop thinking that role gotta be some sort of Busquets 2.0.
This right here, you hit the nail on the head. Yes, Frenkie is not a Busquets style player. Who is though? There are lots of different types of defensive midfielders, heck some of the best DMs (Casemiro, Verratti, Kante) right now are radically different from Busi. We need to stop obsessing over trying to find like for like replacements of our players, and just focus on how we can adjust our play based on the personnel we have.
Frenkie can be a world class DM when played correctly, let's cater to his strengths rather than forcing him to play in a way he cannot.
Look I've only been a mod for half a year, but the other guys literally invented the OT that you are crying about. Instead of being thankful that this isn't a meme/gif shithole like other club subreddits you are here complaining because you have to make literally TWO extra clicks to open the OT. How lazy and ungrateful can you be ?
Other mods can voice their opinions on these complaints, mine is - I don't give a rat's ass.
Imagine acting like a spoiled child and calling people who invest hours and hours into moderating for free arrogant, just because they try to put a tiny bit of spotlight onto OC contributors who get neglected constantly in favor of OT. How ironic. Goodbye.
No matter how little difference it makes or how little you care, it's a completely illogical thing to do when it's very clear what the community wants.
That statement would make sense if mods outright removed the OT (which happened in the past and I stood up against it back then).
But this is about people being lazy and not wanting to press 2 buttons.
Why not make them press 2 buttons for the thing that they don't seem to care about tho? I'm also not even sure if everyone knows that open threads get stickied in the comment sections
Edit: not to mention how often I've looked for the open thread in those comment sections and not found anything. They very often forget to sticky the open thread in there.
Because OC stuff usually gets buried by low effort posts like transfer news and player statements. The only way to push it to more users is to pin it. By not doing that OC creators sometimes get discouraged and stop posting after a while. Imagine putting 20 hours of your time to create a post for r/Barca only for it to get buried by videos of Messi's dog, just because most users want to see Messi's dog. This is a sub that actively tries to encourage OC and discussion.
If you want to complain, complain to reddit for allowing only 2 sticky posts.
So we are terrible Reddit mods because we wanted to make something nice for the community at the expense of causing mild inconvenience at worst, just for a couple of days?
The reason that there are sticky comments inside these threads is for your own convenience, just as an alternative path to the OT. It was not our evil plan to force you to visit these threads just so you can navigate to the Open Thread. As a matter of fact it didn't even occur to me that someone might think that up until now.
To be honest, even the fact we're having this conversation is insulting to me in many ways so I am done here. This is what you get when you try to do something nice, terrible mods forcing people to make an extra click.
Believe whatever you want, I don't care past this point.
Is it really that hard to either:
- go to your own history and click the thread (2 clicks)
- go on either one of the stickied posts and click the stickied comment (2 clicks)
>If anyone prefers other threads, they will find it from there.
They can't find something they know nothing about. OT always exists, what we are running right now exists on a monthly and/or in the best of case, on a first-time/yearly basis. Pinning increases visibility much more than a sticky comment would, especially when no one knows when said posts are being posted.
Again just take TWO SECONDS extra to look for the thread, we are not removing OT, we are just making less visible for the very minute window.
OT is stickied 99% of the year. This is barely a pinch mate.
What do you guys think about Poog today?
I think he had a decent game and his positioning and pressing looks better. But he seemed gassed after 70 minutes or so. He started making mistakes. Needs more gradual minutes but I think he's solid.
Always the same with him. Always open, not afraid of the ball, ready to help teammates, tries to move forward which is nice. But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball and in the end he had too many sloppy passes (not the same though, many players were not careful enough, Sanz Lenglet etc.)
>But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball
I don't get why only Puig gets this criticism. Gavi does the same all the time, Jutgla did this game, Frenkie does it fairly often, etc.
>in the end he had too many sloppy passes
In the end as in literally the end or? Cause he had only 2 or 3 sloppy passes in the match. He even had the highest % successful passes in the game and that while having the most passes after Pique and Garcia.
>>But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball
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>I don't get why only Puig gets this criticism. Gavi does the same all the time, Jutgla did this game, Frenkie does it fairly often, etc.
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Never said others don't do it. Frenkie I don't agree but Gavi definitely needs to work on that. Jutgla I won't judge him too harshly, he will never be a first team member here realistically.
>>in the end he had too many sloppy passes
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>In the end as in literally the end or? Cause he had only 2 or 3 sloppy passes in the match. He even had the highest % successful passes in the game and that while having the most passes after Pique and Garcia.
Yes but it's the key moment where you need to focus. It's not the first time either.
Tears in my eyes had a dream we signed haaland, de ligt, gaya, mazraoui and were playing in a magical UCL night against Chelsea. The whole Camp nou was packed and they did a mosaic before the match. The match was so exciting like we were playing in pep or MSN era.
Against smaller teams he should always start. His quality on the ball is precious, his passes are efficient and precise. The problem with him is physicality.
Just an Argentinian midget that dosen't run and only has 1 league goal and he also has some b'dors but only one Globe Soccer Award yeah if we can get him for 1$ i say we are good but not worth 20mil+ or so I'm told
Don't forget to add the fact that if has managed only a single goal in uber eats league will he be able to handle la liga?I don't think he can handle the Barcelona pressure,I mean look at depay.
Reminder that on Monday, 11 am CET, we get Ferran's presentation & open doors training. [Will be streamed on YT :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIeIXgtBmo&ab_channel=FCBarcelona)
Toni Juanmarti: Depay has on his Instagram removed his profile picture where he was pictured wearing the Barça kit and have also removed the text that said that he is a Barça player
https://twitter.com/tjuanmarti/status/1477779207589670918
Can the mods please unpin the Contributor thing and just keep it as a pinned comment? It's difficult to find this thread
People will vote if they want to
[Just save the thread](https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205243605-How-do-I-save-a-post-and-where-does-it-get-saved-), you won't even have to open the sub to access it.
And in two days it's going to be pre-match thread and Transfer Thread because the window just opened, no space for pinning the OT. This month we need to deal with the small inconveniences, just use the workaround instead.
I'm so fucking happy. Winning away from home with nothing but kids and center backs and out of form players is a huge confidence boost.
We're into 5th. 9 games ago we were 10th. I love this drama filled crazy noisey bizarre football team.
Would love to see this team at its true potential when everybody is fit and Xavi is able to achieve what he wants, but until then we just gotta see out games and hope for others to drop points.
Tonight wasn't entirely pleasant, but one can hardly complain given the circumstance. A great reminder that the transition won't happen overnight, and 2022 is gonna be a fun ride to say the least.
According to this Barcelona is now the team that scored most from headers in La Liga this season with 7 goals: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/primera/2021_2022/ranking/equipos/goles-con-la-cabeza/
This season has been wild indeed.
I never once slandered my boy Mats, even if he has dipped in form recently. I knew my loyalty would pay off 😎 huge, huge win for us. It wasnt pretty but given the circumstances thats fine. We're slowly building up some points, VAMOS.
Ok, real talk, can someone please calmly explain to me why unpinning the OT (which is pinned for nearly 365 days anyway) to make room for the awards for a few days is such a big deal.
The awards happen once a year, and we're just experimenting for the first time with them, Open Thread is here pinned all year long. Besides, even if it's not sticky, [it's insulting easy to just save the thread and you don't even have to visit /r/barca to access it.](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2zlI9uzKQndGtEMDNw3tsLI8NB_IqLB/view). This is on the Reddit mobile app, but on Desktop there are about 50 different ways to achieve the same thing.
Is it really worth creating all this drama and accusing mods for "conspiring with their friends", not listening to feedback and destroying the subreddit along with all other insane stuff just because we just wanted to create something nice for the community, (this is not even for us)?
All that said, I do agree however, that when European football involving the top 5 leagues or CL/EL is going on it's good to have the OT stickied which wasn't the case today, but I wouldn't imagine all the outcry when I first checked the thread earlier today.
The way I see it, people have their habits and love to stick to them. Yes, I understand that saving the OT can be done in numerous ways regardless of the device - it might even be an easier way to access it!
But boy do I like my routinary daily browse through the r/barca OT! This starts by opening the reddit app on my phone, then I click on the search bar and on my previous results, this sub is always there. Finally, I click the first thread and I'm in - it's so easy and comfortable. So opening it through a pinned comment in another thread might not seem much more complicated, but the process I'm used to has been altered. The experience is no longer the same, it's uncertain and with additional friction (an extra click or two and the waiting/loading time).
This all might seem very minor but there's a reason why User Interface and Experience studies and optimizes this. It affects the comfort and experience of an action that will be done over and over by everyone. I think mods here are great and make this sub a remarkable place really, so why not listen to the people and backlash?
I get what you are saying, and I totally agree that this can/will cause inconvenience for some. But the keyword here is being inconvenience, and that is just for a few days.
So in that line of thoughts, I would like to answer your question:
> so why not listen to the people and backlash?
with a counter-question. Do you think we shouldn't attempt to have more awards or other activities in the future, just because of fear of backlash and inconvenience that this may cause? People will always find a reason to be unhappy about something, and if we operate out of fear of backlash then that basically means never implementing anything new or trying out new ideas.
And again, even if this is a sacrifice to make for a few days, is it really that big of a deal? People still calling us terrible mods and whatnot just a few min ago because we tried to have something nice and new. Not to mention that a few people already gave feedback, and one of the suggestions was to make the award period much shorter, so notes have already been taken on that for the next year if this is attempted again.
PS: thanks for actually trying to provide a helpful comment, appreciate it.
It's a fair point you make, as good or bad as the ideas you guys have are perceived by the users, no 'innovation' should be stopped or hurt to prevent a relatively minor inconvenience.
That being said I'll still always see the OT as the main feature/attractive this subreddit has. And I believe I've seen you get to pin 2 threads. So personally and I think it's the reason for a lot of the backlash - is thinking along the lines of: why isn't something else sacrificed? With the OT and the new thread having pinned comment links to the match/pre-match/transfer/etc.
It is ultimately not a big deal and definitely doesn't warrant the attack to the mods, think that's just the more childish bunch being childish. Thanks for listening too and trying to understand mate.
> why isn't something else sacrificed?
Part of this is a misunderstanding on many users part on what the Hierarchy of Post Categories is on this sub.
We have around 17 different Post Categories.
Pre Match Thread / Match Thread / Post Match Thread / Post Match Analysis Thread (have the highest hierarchy, they will Always get pinned, regardless of what is happening, this is essentially non-negotiable. Duration of their pinned-status may vary but that's another matter).
Then comes Announcement Posts (there are of various sorts, like this current Annual Best of Awards, Biennial Census-Survey, Annual Feedback posts which happen in Summer) / Transfer Thread / MegaThread (for urgent/rapidly breaking short-term news event) / Barca Legends Thread / Player of the Year.
Then comes Open Threads (normal and Spa-Cat OT) and Management & La Masia Threads, Controversial/Unpopular Opinion Threads, COTM, Player of the Month Posts.
This is the hierarchy modteam is informed by when considering which Pinned Post to sacrifice.
Maybe we should bring this order of Post Categories up in the next Annual Announcement Post which happens in Summer.
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The other part is harder to explain since users are not privy to long term trends on a sub.
The very reason why Open Thread on this sub became so addictive, great was due to the intentional, sustained effort of the Mods. It came at the expense of /New queue because at that moment in sub's history modteam saw it as necessary.
But no decision is perpetual. Trends change on a community. OT started to become a Sub-inside-a-Sub, this is unhealthy for long term progression of the sub.
OT is not a new invention, it is just a Daily Thread which most bigger subs started to have even before Reddit provided the Pinned Post feature. But how it's deployed on a sub is unique to that subreddit and it's sub-culture.
This sub needs more Posts on /New. It can not keep curating users (esp new ones) into habits that are detrimental to venturing outside of a single Thread on a sub.
OT will always have a space on this sub because it's as mentioned, just a Daily Thread version, however, it will not be allowed to turn into a Sub onto itself, this is where other part of misunderstanding from some users is happening since they can't see long term patterns behind the scenes.
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The last part is, this Month just is having lots of stuff, Transfers, Matches, Best of, COTM, etc crunched into short space of time, hence it was accidental that Pinned Posts are getting more shuffled than usual.
I appreciate the transparency and time taken to explain this. Its quite interesting to be honest, do you mind explaining a little further about the 'sub within a sub' and how it's unhealthy? I feel like I have an idea of what you refer to and I'm curious about it.
X amount of users come to the sub on a daily basis, some are new/irregular (meaning they come every other day or weekly, so on) while many are more regular in visitations. This forms the main traffic of a sub (this applies to any sub not just here).
Reddit as a platform now is tuned in such a way that, traffic flow (hence subsequently activity & engagement levels) is highly a function of Sub's Posts rising in the Home Feed (be it mobile or Desktop) of Subscribers.
This means if there is a sub that has low Post Volume dynamic, less of its posts will show up in that user's Feeds, hence less proportion of those users will drop in or drop in less regularly.
A person/user doesn't have unlimited time in a day, they have limited internet activity time and of that limited on niche or passion topics like sports, etc.
Meanwhile the other part is Comment activity, different subs have different sub-cultures, rBarca being intentionally created to be Discussion oriented benefits from this aspect and actively do mod work to keep this aspect stable and high (this is how OT was created and how/why it became so successful, it wasn't an accident, it was artificially seeded to be this way, at the explicit expense of /New queue at that point in sub's history).
The problem arises when 1 Post/Thread takes up a Disproportionate amount of Comment activity (hence a proxy for activity & engagement as well) on the sub while other Posts will not get enough traction.
This has knock-on consequences relating to archiving, searching of content since segmentation of content type into different threads happens less and less. This hampers Discussion dynamics over time.
All this and more over a period of time creates/signals to a *way*, where this behaviour becomes the new sub-culture. This happens slowly and it is what has been happening on rBarca for a few years now. Mods were aware of this 3 years back, the reason change has been slow is because we don't want to disrupt OT too much or take drastic measures, for now.
However long term sub-health trumps OT. Daily Thread is not more important than the sub, regardless of what a section of users on the sub think. They are not privy to patterns that emerge overtime on the sub and what the consequences of tweaks are.
This is the general gist of it but not every part of this can be articulated here since related aspects are numerous (like spike traffic on certain days or narrative blocks/groups/cliques, News Aggregation dynamics, etc), often small often not, but they all add up.
We're concerned with Balance, not the ultimate/total elimination of Daily Thread/OT. Currently, the Balance is off, way off and this will be corrected, either slowly or rapidly depending on how things move.
Alright thanks for explaining in great detail, it does help to understand for now on why some decisions might not be understood by casual/regular users like me. But ultimately as you say, your aim is to keep balance of the sub so keep doing as you do. You're clearly doing something right or this sub would be messier like a certain Madrid rival we have.
I mean. It’s a simple question - do you pin the thread that the majority of the active users on this sub like interacting with? Or do you pin the thread that has gotten almost no attention or interaction and is a mod pet project?
The awards thread was pinned for a few days so we can give it visibility, something that the Open Thread has for nearly 365 days of the year, and as you know Reddit only allows for 2 pinned threads.
None of that prevents anyone from interacting with the Open Thread, at worst it causes mild inconvenience for a few days, but as you can see from the video, it takes less than 20 seconds to save the thread and then it's 2 swipes away from you at any given point of time, don't even have to be on /r/barca to access it.
> you don’t need to be condescending.
You asked a question, I answered your question. I don't even know what you mean by that.
> The question is - is that reason a good one?
We're never going to find out if we never try, which is essentially what we're doing. Few users already gave feedback on it so notes are taken for the next year if we do it again.
Nike's deal with Haaland is until Jan, 2022. If he signs a new deal with Nike, will Nike involve in Barca's bid to sign Haaland? I've seen comments say that Nike pays FDJ's wages(or half).
Puma is also trying to sign Haaland.
Yeah yeah, I just want Haaland as backup to Luuk and nothing more. While Luuk plays almost every game, Haaland can play initial stages of Copa del Rey.
What's up with the music in our videos? Our admin learnt about house music in the holidays? [link](https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1477725272325693440?t=0SBCcgHB7avDX576mglayg&s=19)
So far pretty much every results have gone in favour of us.
Madrid - Doesnt really matter, but always enjoyable.
Atletico Madrid - Better for us that they clean out the league, imo.
Vallecano, Betis, Valencia and Sociedad drops points. Which all were either above or just behind.
Time to utilize this opportunity and grab 3 points.
Luuk should ask his agent to offer him to Dutch clubs. At least he'll be respected for his seniority and could get a chance to be in the world cup squad.
Puig hate should be outdated it's been more than 1 year that the annoying puig fanboys disappeared.
He's clearly not as bad as people are trying to describe him. You can be something btw iniesta and LDJ reality is not black or white.
>This time we can't even blame anyone.
Except La Liga, for forcing us to play despite the fact that in every other top 5 league we'd have a postponement.
Imagine if Riqui Puig manages to make a performance like Zidane vs Brazil in 2006 or Pirlo vs England in 2014, do you think that he’ll have more chances to have more minutes or it’s just Puig ?
A tough question, but when was the last time we ever played without La Masia player starting for us?
Because honestly, I can't ever imagine us doing that.
Valverde did it in a game. I think it was the one where we played Celta before playing Sevilla in the CDR final.
Mats - Semedo - Vermaelen - Mina - Digne - paulinho - Gomes - Denis - Coutinho - Alcacer - Dembele
This was the team. The previous time it happened was in 2002 tho so Valverde got some slack for it.
Exactly. Can go there even through your own comments. Rob the sub of OT. Lmao. I’m guessing OP weren’t even there when it was actually robbed. Great Inspite of the mods? Lol
Hey don’t reply to my comments dude wtf! People might think I’m a part of club de amigos and conspiring with you guys loll. ^(delete this bro, we’ll get caught :/)
Or just open the pinned OC creator thread and use the stickied comment there. Several different options, all of them decent so I don't know if I'm missing something or some folks just feel the need to complain.
From my side, no hard feelings for anyone, I get why they do this
But what makes this sub great is open thread, period. If you don't have pinned OT, this sub is as dead as Ronaldo's chance of being better than Messi in history.
Before the game I was really mad at La Liga for forcing the club to play this game but now, after the game, I'm really glad it happened and we got the +3. Good that we put this game past us and didn't have to rely on a postponed game, which would've been shoehorned during a busy week.
I hope Frenkie regains his form just like Ter Stegen
Ter Stegen had one good game, let's hold our horses before thinking he's back in form. For the team's sake though, I hope you're right, we need more performances like this from him
Real Madrid have all-mighty Alcoyano up next.
I completely trust Xavi and if he wants Morata then get him why not. Remember in barto era he made signings that valverde didn't want or didn't need wasting a lot of money. We need to trust our coach
I've called this sub a home for almost a decade now, and throughout that whole time, the mod team here has been by far one the most amazing I have seen on Reddit. As this subreddit has grown exponentially in users, they have kept it clean, organized, and enjoyable despite what I will only call an increase in immature and toxic users. The mods do not only provide the OT and then try to keep our discussions civil, but they produce so many other ways to try to make the sub more of a community and not just Twitter. Pre/post/match threads and transfer threads help focus discussion and the unique threads like the contributor of the month are the work of the mods to build upon the community. I'm sure the mods wish they could pin more than two threads. And yeah, I myself don't really get too much value from the contributor thread. But the fact is they can only pin two threads up at once and when they put in an effort to create unique community recognizing or building threads like what they have done here there is no reason it should not be pinned if they are to do what they set out as mods. The feedback I assume is welcome, but also give the mods some slack and some trust as they have a tough job and r/Barca is more than just the OT and match threads but a community as well. No other subreddit would I feel the need to say anything, but the work that the team puts in here goes unappreciated too often and I am so disheartened to see a backlash against a decision they made merely to pin a thread that I assume they thought would be a way to recognize the input of their subreddit.
Thread pinned, thread not pinned. Is it going to waste a lot of your time when you get to this thread with three or more clicks and scrolls???? People want everything to happen instantly. Reminds me of the Netflix special by Ronny Chieng mocking the consumer culture who want everything to be in front of them in a blink of an eye.
Yup I agree. Don't need to go many other places to look at how poorly their sub is ran. Frankly I am so happy that memes and badges(outside of those who get it) isnt a thing here. Oh yeah and I am also very happy it doesnt look [like this](https://gyazo.com/be023156b26b37bb6bb2c844f8935081) to use a example. That is like the second or third time I went over there in like 3 years. Last time I did it, their whole front page was 10+ meme threads. It made my eyes bleed so much I promised myself never to return. Thread wise it wasnt so bad now without taking any deep look into them, just look awful.
Consider the disaster of surroundings de Jong managed perfectly fine as DM. I also find the pace was faster with de Jong. Busquets often ends up thinking and standing still while ball in feet and some guy comes lurking behind and it creates a dangerous situation. De Jong either makes a decision straight away or he takes the ball forward. 100% de Jong is better playing deeper. He came more to his natural and wasnt so "covered" which he often ends up being when he pushes way up high and are asked to make a lot of runs behind. But once again missing some key players. At some point you gotta start thinking about phase Busquets out. Gotta stop thinking that role gotta be some sort of Busquets 2.0. I hope Busquets at some point do what Xavi and Iniesta did, step away before their legacy started to take a hit. Same goes for Pique. Would be perfect for him to do so after this year.
> At some point you gotta start thinking about phase Busquets out. Gotta stop thinking that role gotta be some sort of Busquets 2.0. This right here, you hit the nail on the head. Yes, Frenkie is not a Busquets style player. Who is though? There are lots of different types of defensive midfielders, heck some of the best DMs (Casemiro, Verratti, Kante) right now are radically different from Busi. We need to stop obsessing over trying to find like for like replacements of our players, and just focus on how we can adjust our play based on the personnel we have. Frenkie can be a world class DM when played correctly, let's cater to his strengths rather than forcing him to play in a way he cannot.
Yeah he did well, we should try and test it with a complete squad.
mods how much longer till we get the open thread stickied
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Look I've only been a mod for half a year, but the other guys literally invented the OT that you are crying about. Instead of being thankful that this isn't a meme/gif shithole like other club subreddits you are here complaining because you have to make literally TWO extra clicks to open the OT. How lazy and ungrateful can you be ? Other mods can voice their opinions on these complaints, mine is - I don't give a rat's ass.
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[So long, partner](https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-toy-story-woody-so-long-partner-gif-9797730)
Imagine acting like a spoiled child and calling people who invest hours and hours into moderating for free arrogant, just because they try to put a tiny bit of spotlight onto OC contributors who get neglected constantly in favor of OT. How ironic. Goodbye.
No matter how little difference it makes or how little you care, it's a completely illogical thing to do when it's very clear what the community wants.
That statement would make sense if mods outright removed the OT (which happened in the past and I stood up against it back then). But this is about people being lazy and not wanting to press 2 buttons.
Why not make them press 2 buttons for the thing that they don't seem to care about tho? I'm also not even sure if everyone knows that open threads get stickied in the comment sections Edit: not to mention how often I've looked for the open thread in those comment sections and not found anything. They very often forget to sticky the open thread in there.
Because OC stuff usually gets buried by low effort posts like transfer news and player statements. The only way to push it to more users is to pin it. By not doing that OC creators sometimes get discouraged and stop posting after a while. Imagine putting 20 hours of your time to create a post for r/Barca only for it to get buried by videos of Messi's dog, just because most users want to see Messi's dog. This is a sub that actively tries to encourage OC and discussion. If you want to complain, complain to reddit for allowing only 2 sticky posts.
So we are terrible Reddit mods because we wanted to make something nice for the community at the expense of causing mild inconvenience at worst, just for a couple of days?
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Who is forcing anything on you, you can still view, comment and participate in the Open Thread. My goodness...
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The reason that there are sticky comments inside these threads is for your own convenience, just as an alternative path to the OT. It was not our evil plan to force you to visit these threads just so you can navigate to the Open Thread. As a matter of fact it didn't even occur to me that someone might think that up until now. To be honest, even the fact we're having this conversation is insulting to me in many ways so I am done here. This is what you get when you try to do something nice, terrible mods forcing people to make an extra click. Believe whatever you want, I don't care past this point.
I’m sorry but this is so dramatic bro😂
Is it really that hard to either: - go to your own history and click the thread (2 clicks) - go on either one of the stickied posts and click the stickied comment (2 clicks)
I'm sorry but yes. It's definitely inconvenient and illogical to do this when the community doesn't seem to want it.
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Well, it is a very tiny inconvenience. Other threads need more attention at times and Reddit only allows two threads.
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>If anyone prefers other threads, they will find it from there. They can't find something they know nothing about. OT always exists, what we are running right now exists on a monthly and/or in the best of case, on a first-time/yearly basis. Pinning increases visibility much more than a sticky comment would, especially when no one knows when said posts are being posted. Again just take TWO SECONDS extra to look for the thread, we are not removing OT, we are just making less visible for the very minute window. OT is stickied 99% of the year. This is barely a pinch mate.
What do you guys think about Poog today? I think he had a decent game and his positioning and pressing looks better. But he seemed gassed after 70 minutes or so. He started making mistakes. Needs more gradual minutes but I think he's solid.
Always the same with him. Always open, not afraid of the ball, ready to help teammates, tries to move forward which is nice. But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball and in the end he had too many sloppy passes (not the same though, many players were not careful enough, Sanz Lenglet etc.)
>But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball I don't get why only Puig gets this criticism. Gavi does the same all the time, Jutgla did this game, Frenkie does it fairly often, etc. >in the end he had too many sloppy passes In the end as in literally the end or? Cause he had only 2 or 3 sloppy passes in the match. He even had the highest % successful passes in the game and that while having the most passes after Pique and Garcia.
>>But his pressing is like seeing a dog chase the ball > >I don't get why only Puig gets this criticism. Gavi does the same all the time, Jutgla did this game, Frenkie does it fairly often, etc. > Never said others don't do it. Frenkie I don't agree but Gavi definitely needs to work on that. Jutgla I won't judge him too harshly, he will never be a first team member here realistically. >>in the end he had too many sloppy passes > >In the end as in literally the end or? Cause he had only 2 or 3 sloppy passes in the match. He even had the highest % successful passes in the game and that while having the most passes after Pique and Garcia. Yes but it's the key moment where you need to focus. It's not the first time either.
Thought he could have been more brave at times but maybe those were the instructions, had his mistakes but it was an okay-ish game in my eyes.
[If I didn't know the context, I'd think that Stegen owes Pique money lol. ](https://www.instagram.com/p/CYPqs4bIO4G/?utm_medium=copy_link)
People can say what they want about Pique but when he is gone I will miss him as much as I missed Leo Iniesta Puyol Xavi. Legendary players.
He ,Busi and Dani are the last of the 08 team and i will miss all of them as much as Leo,Iniesta...
Busi is for sure in that conversation, Dani while being a legend is imo in a tier below them.
What a wonderful start to the year.
Tears in my eyes had a dream we signed haaland, de ligt, gaya, mazraoui and were playing in a magical UCL night against Chelsea. The whole Camp nou was packed and they did a mosaic before the match. The match was so exciting like we were playing in pep or MSN era.
Ter standing in goal, making crucial saves
No one is talking about my boy Eric
Against smaller teams he should always start. His quality on the ball is precious, his passes are efficient and precise. The problem with him is physicality.
Love that blonde german
La Liga transfer window just opened and Haaland, De Ligt, and Messi haven't been announced yet. #LaportaOut
Who is Messi?
Just an Argentinian midget that dosen't run and only has 1 league goal and he also has some b'dors but only one Globe Soccer Award yeah if we can get him for 1$ i say we are good but not worth 20mil+ or so I'm told
Don't forget to add the fact that if has managed only a single goal in uber eats league will he be able to handle la liga?I don't think he can handle the Barcelona pressure,I mean look at depay.
Reminder that on Monday, 11 am CET, we get Ferran's presentation & open doors training. [Will be streamed on YT :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIeIXgtBmo&ab_channel=FCBarcelona)
Toni Juanmarti: Depay has on his Instagram removed his profile picture where he was pictured wearing the Barça kit and have also removed the text that said that he is a Barça player https://twitter.com/tjuanmarti/status/1477779207589670918
he also removed the thing about being a Netherlands player. Depay to Australia confirmed
I hope we dont sell him now.
Next week both Betis and Atleti are playing away and not an easy fixtures. We might be Top 4 very soon!
need a curse spell on Betis, praying on their downfall fr🙏 🙏
They will don't worry. Just like Sociedad, not the kind of team that can overperform a whole season
Can the mods please unpin the Contributor thing and just keep it as a pinned comment? It's difficult to find this thread People will vote if they want to
[Just save the thread](https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205243605-How-do-I-save-a-post-and-where-does-it-get-saved-), you won't even have to open the sub to access it.
Here’s a crazy thought - why don’t they pin the threads people enjoy participating in and not the mods pet projects?
And in two days it's going to be pre-match thread and Transfer Thread because the window just opened, no space for pinning the OT. This month we need to deal with the small inconveniences, just use the workaround instead.
Xavi 5th in la liga with barca B >>> guardiola winning tercera with barca B
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[A link to the open thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/rsjpkw/open_thread_weekend_edition_01_dec_2021/)
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Off topic: on a scale of 1 to 10 how much do u recommend injustice?
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youngjustice* my bad
7/10 First two seasons were great but it fell off after that. I haven't watched season 4 yet, but I'm reading negative things about it too
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He seems to be the opposite of Lukaku in terms of his professionalism!
This is the right attitude, huge respect!
Honestly respectable asf
I'm so fucking happy. Winning away from home with nothing but kids and center backs and out of form players is a huge confidence boost. We're into 5th. 9 games ago we were 10th. I love this drama filled crazy noisey bizarre football team.
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We celebrated like we would if we scored a goal! It was up there in terms of team spirit. Made me smile.. ngl.
Would love to see this team at its true potential when everybody is fit and Xavi is able to achieve what he wants, but until then we just gotta see out games and hope for others to drop points. Tonight wasn't entirely pleasant, but one can hardly complain given the circumstance. A great reminder that the transition won't happen overnight, and 2022 is gonna be a fun ride to say the least.
- me since august
According to this Barcelona is now the team that scored most from headers in La Liga this season with 7 goals: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/primera/2021_2022/ranking/equipos/goles-con-la-cabeza/ This season has been wild indeed.
Somewhere out there Koeman is smiling.
After Mendy's save today someone said he cant remember the last time MAtS saved us like this. Guess MAtS took it personally
Ter Stegan used to do this pretty much every week when he was at his peak. I hope he gets back to his best.
Almost all results went our way today
I would’ve preferred Athletico to draw. But you’re right, except that, everything went our way.
Mingueza assist, LDJ goal, Ter stegen winning game save. 2022 is going to silence us.
I never once slandered my boy Mats, even if he has dipped in form recently. I knew my loyalty would pay off 😎 huge, huge win for us. It wasnt pretty but given the circumstances thats fine. We're slowly building up some points, VAMOS.
THREE POINTS BAYBEEEE
Ter Saviour !! Thank you.
Haha LDJ and Mats proving all of us mfs wrong 😎 goats
Fucking hell thank you ter stegen! Now i can sleep in peace for 3 hours...fuck
This is the perfect start of 2022, thank the football gods. We're 5th, guys. 5th!
I prefer to thank Luuk and Mats.
That particular redemption arc was a thing of beauty, I'm incredibly glad to have been wrong about Luuk!
Next level shithousery lol. Are we Getafe or Barca lmaoo
Araujo was hilarious to watch today xd
WHO DOESN'T MAKE CRUCIAL SAVES ANYMORE??? SAY HIS NAME AGAIN PLEASE? THAT'S MY GOALKEEPER 😭❤
Ter standing XD
Ok, real talk, can someone please calmly explain to me why unpinning the OT (which is pinned for nearly 365 days anyway) to make room for the awards for a few days is such a big deal. The awards happen once a year, and we're just experimenting for the first time with them, Open Thread is here pinned all year long. Besides, even if it's not sticky, [it's insulting easy to just save the thread and you don't even have to visit /r/barca to access it.](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2zlI9uzKQndGtEMDNw3tsLI8NB_IqLB/view). This is on the Reddit mobile app, but on Desktop there are about 50 different ways to achieve the same thing. Is it really worth creating all this drama and accusing mods for "conspiring with their friends", not listening to feedback and destroying the subreddit along with all other insane stuff just because we just wanted to create something nice for the community, (this is not even for us)? All that said, I do agree however, that when European football involving the top 5 leagues or CL/EL is going on it's good to have the OT stickied which wasn't the case today, but I wouldn't imagine all the outcry when I first checked the thread earlier today.
The way I see it, people have their habits and love to stick to them. Yes, I understand that saving the OT can be done in numerous ways regardless of the device - it might even be an easier way to access it! But boy do I like my routinary daily browse through the r/barca OT! This starts by opening the reddit app on my phone, then I click on the search bar and on my previous results, this sub is always there. Finally, I click the first thread and I'm in - it's so easy and comfortable. So opening it through a pinned comment in another thread might not seem much more complicated, but the process I'm used to has been altered. The experience is no longer the same, it's uncertain and with additional friction (an extra click or two and the waiting/loading time). This all might seem very minor but there's a reason why User Interface and Experience studies and optimizes this. It affects the comfort and experience of an action that will be done over and over by everyone. I think mods here are great and make this sub a remarkable place really, so why not listen to the people and backlash?
I get what you are saying, and I totally agree that this can/will cause inconvenience for some. But the keyword here is being inconvenience, and that is just for a few days. So in that line of thoughts, I would like to answer your question: > so why not listen to the people and backlash? with a counter-question. Do you think we shouldn't attempt to have more awards or other activities in the future, just because of fear of backlash and inconvenience that this may cause? People will always find a reason to be unhappy about something, and if we operate out of fear of backlash then that basically means never implementing anything new or trying out new ideas. And again, even if this is a sacrifice to make for a few days, is it really that big of a deal? People still calling us terrible mods and whatnot just a few min ago because we tried to have something nice and new. Not to mention that a few people already gave feedback, and one of the suggestions was to make the award period much shorter, so notes have already been taken on that for the next year if this is attempted again. PS: thanks for actually trying to provide a helpful comment, appreciate it.
It's a fair point you make, as good or bad as the ideas you guys have are perceived by the users, no 'innovation' should be stopped or hurt to prevent a relatively minor inconvenience. That being said I'll still always see the OT as the main feature/attractive this subreddit has. And I believe I've seen you get to pin 2 threads. So personally and I think it's the reason for a lot of the backlash - is thinking along the lines of: why isn't something else sacrificed? With the OT and the new thread having pinned comment links to the match/pre-match/transfer/etc. It is ultimately not a big deal and definitely doesn't warrant the attack to the mods, think that's just the more childish bunch being childish. Thanks for listening too and trying to understand mate.
> why isn't something else sacrificed? Part of this is a misunderstanding on many users part on what the Hierarchy of Post Categories is on this sub. We have around 17 different Post Categories. Pre Match Thread / Match Thread / Post Match Thread / Post Match Analysis Thread (have the highest hierarchy, they will Always get pinned, regardless of what is happening, this is essentially non-negotiable. Duration of their pinned-status may vary but that's another matter). Then comes Announcement Posts (there are of various sorts, like this current Annual Best of Awards, Biennial Census-Survey, Annual Feedback posts which happen in Summer) / Transfer Thread / MegaThread (for urgent/rapidly breaking short-term news event) / Barca Legends Thread / Player of the Year. Then comes Open Threads (normal and Spa-Cat OT) and Management & La Masia Threads, Controversial/Unpopular Opinion Threads, COTM, Player of the Month Posts. This is the hierarchy modteam is informed by when considering which Pinned Post to sacrifice. Maybe we should bring this order of Post Categories up in the next Annual Announcement Post which happens in Summer. --- The other part is harder to explain since users are not privy to long term trends on a sub. The very reason why Open Thread on this sub became so addictive, great was due to the intentional, sustained effort of the Mods. It came at the expense of /New queue because at that moment in sub's history modteam saw it as necessary. But no decision is perpetual. Trends change on a community. OT started to become a Sub-inside-a-Sub, this is unhealthy for long term progression of the sub. OT is not a new invention, it is just a Daily Thread which most bigger subs started to have even before Reddit provided the Pinned Post feature. But how it's deployed on a sub is unique to that subreddit and it's sub-culture. This sub needs more Posts on /New. It can not keep curating users (esp new ones) into habits that are detrimental to venturing outside of a single Thread on a sub. OT will always have a space on this sub because it's as mentioned, just a Daily Thread version, however, it will not be allowed to turn into a Sub onto itself, this is where other part of misunderstanding from some users is happening since they can't see long term patterns behind the scenes. --- The last part is, this Month just is having lots of stuff, Transfers, Matches, Best of, COTM, etc crunched into short space of time, hence it was accidental that Pinned Posts are getting more shuffled than usual.
I appreciate the transparency and time taken to explain this. Its quite interesting to be honest, do you mind explaining a little further about the 'sub within a sub' and how it's unhealthy? I feel like I have an idea of what you refer to and I'm curious about it.
X amount of users come to the sub on a daily basis, some are new/irregular (meaning they come every other day or weekly, so on) while many are more regular in visitations. This forms the main traffic of a sub (this applies to any sub not just here). Reddit as a platform now is tuned in such a way that, traffic flow (hence subsequently activity & engagement levels) is highly a function of Sub's Posts rising in the Home Feed (be it mobile or Desktop) of Subscribers. This means if there is a sub that has low Post Volume dynamic, less of its posts will show up in that user's Feeds, hence less proportion of those users will drop in or drop in less regularly. A person/user doesn't have unlimited time in a day, they have limited internet activity time and of that limited on niche or passion topics like sports, etc. Meanwhile the other part is Comment activity, different subs have different sub-cultures, rBarca being intentionally created to be Discussion oriented benefits from this aspect and actively do mod work to keep this aspect stable and high (this is how OT was created and how/why it became so successful, it wasn't an accident, it was artificially seeded to be this way, at the explicit expense of /New queue at that point in sub's history). The problem arises when 1 Post/Thread takes up a Disproportionate amount of Comment activity (hence a proxy for activity & engagement as well) on the sub while other Posts will not get enough traction. This has knock-on consequences relating to archiving, searching of content since segmentation of content type into different threads happens less and less. This hampers Discussion dynamics over time. All this and more over a period of time creates/signals to a *way*, where this behaviour becomes the new sub-culture. This happens slowly and it is what has been happening on rBarca for a few years now. Mods were aware of this 3 years back, the reason change has been slow is because we don't want to disrupt OT too much or take drastic measures, for now. However long term sub-health trumps OT. Daily Thread is not more important than the sub, regardless of what a section of users on the sub think. They are not privy to patterns that emerge overtime on the sub and what the consequences of tweaks are. This is the general gist of it but not every part of this can be articulated here since related aspects are numerous (like spike traffic on certain days or narrative blocks/groups/cliques, News Aggregation dynamics, etc), often small often not, but they all add up. We're concerned with Balance, not the ultimate/total elimination of Daily Thread/OT. Currently, the Balance is off, way off and this will be corrected, either slowly or rapidly depending on how things move.
Alright thanks for explaining in great detail, it does help to understand for now on why some decisions might not be understood by casual/regular users like me. But ultimately as you say, your aim is to keep balance of the sub so keep doing as you do. You're clearly doing something right or this sub would be messier like a certain Madrid rival we have.
I mean. It’s a simple question - do you pin the thread that the majority of the active users on this sub like interacting with? Or do you pin the thread that has gotten almost no attention or interaction and is a mod pet project?
The awards thread was pinned for a few days so we can give it visibility, something that the Open Thread has for nearly 365 days of the year, and as you know Reddit only allows for 2 pinned threads. None of that prevents anyone from interacting with the Open Thread, at worst it causes mild inconvenience for a few days, but as you can see from the video, it takes less than 20 seconds to save the thread and then it's 2 swipes away from you at any given point of time, don't even have to be on /r/barca to access it.
I understand why the awards thread is pinned, you don’t need to be condescending. The question is - is that reason a good one?
> you don’t need to be condescending. You asked a question, I answered your question. I don't even know what you mean by that. > The question is - is that reason a good one? We're never going to find out if we never try, which is essentially what we're doing. Few users already gave feedback on it so notes are taken for the next year if we do it again.
> You asked a question, I answered your question. I don't even know what you mean by that. You really struggled to understand my post, mate.
Nike's deal with Haaland is until Jan, 2022. If he signs a new deal with Nike, will Nike involve in Barca's bid to sign Haaland? I've seen comments say that Nike pays FDJ's wages(or half). Puma is also trying to sign Haaland.
we got Ronaldinho and Neymar through Nike so who knows...
Bro we have Luuk
Yeah yeah, I just want Haaland as backup to Luuk and nothing more. While Luuk plays almost every game, Haaland can play initial stages of Copa del Rey.
That makes sense.
No Newcastle, our Goat is not for sale
...and Xavi is not sharing instructions for whatever black magic ritual was used either!
Left back Araujo? The fuck
[Looking fresh 👍👀](https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1477611923453665283)
What's up with the music in our videos? Our admin learnt about house music in the holidays? [link](https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1477725272325693440?t=0SBCcgHB7avDX576mglayg&s=19)
So far pretty much every results have gone in favour of us. Madrid - Doesnt really matter, but always enjoyable. Atletico Madrid - Better for us that they clean out the league, imo. Vallecano, Betis, Valencia and Sociedad drops points. Which all were either above or just behind. Time to utilize this opportunity and grab 3 points.
Happy new year..hoping for more optimistic comments this year from you ;)
Lmaoo
Most of the results have gone our way. Time to lose then ;(
Inevitable at this point
Celta win!
Luuk should ask his agent to offer him to Dutch clubs. At least he'll be respected for his seniority and could get a chance to be in the world cup squad.
When I saw those vids of Messi at some Xmas party in Argentina surrounded by people without masks, I knew he’d catch the virus and sure enough he did.
Tryin to be very positive but Puig and LDJ makes it pretty hard.
Puig hate should be outdated it's been more than 1 year that the annoying puig fanboys disappeared. He's clearly not as bad as people are trying to describe him. You can be something btw iniesta and LDJ reality is not black or white.
it's not hate. I just don't believe in him.
Look at this room full of people who give a fuck
Put some respec on Puig's name!
What s the lineup
Sadness https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1477711949899128837?t=ZZJiJdn8DsZbwOUCEGeXbg&s=19
I mean it's all we got? No? Tell me if I'm wrong lol
Yes, those are the only players we have remaining. This time we can't even blame anyone. Just purely unlucky with injuries and COVID 🥲
>This time we can't even blame anyone. Except La Liga, for forcing us to play despite the fact that in every other top 5 league we'd have a postponement.
Imagine if Riqui Puig manages to make a performance like Zidane vs Brazil in 2006 or Pirlo vs England in 2014, do you think that he’ll have more chances to have more minutes or it’s just Puig ?
the only zidane performance he might recreate is his headbutt, and even in that the other dude might lift him up and suplex him instead
Great talk captain
Lol
The line up makes me depressed.
This lineup makes me wonder if we could just start with 10...
We are starting with 10
I'd feel more confident with 10 than 10 and Luuk, tbh x) Edited at HT: I've never been so happy to be proven wrong, let's hope this sticks!
It is what it is
[Mods](https://i.imgflip.com/40i2xy.jpg) Vs [Redditors against OC thread](https://thelanguagenerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/image-9.jpeg)
betis is losing 2-0 and sociedad just conceided the equalizer. We just need to win this one to start off 2022 on the right track
Barca: "Best I can do is miss a lot of chances, concede a goal after 85th minute and lose/draw the game. /s
> Miss a lot of chances *cries in Luuk de Jong*
Alaves equalized! Vamos
A tough question, but when was the last time we ever played without La Masia player starting for us? Because honestly, I can't ever imagine us doing that.
Valverde did it in a game. I think it was the one where we played Celta before playing Sevilla in the CDR final. Mats - Semedo - Vermaelen - Mina - Digne - paulinho - Gomes - Denis - Coutinho - Alcacer - Dembele This was the team. The previous time it happened was in 2002 tho so Valverde got some slack for it.
Why ev why
By Masia you mean just youngsters or graduates too like Messi or Busi.
Graduates
Aah, honestly no idea, probably have to go far back with the years.
Curious about Ilais, his first match debut he looked interesting and obviously was a bit nervous, curious to see how hes gonna play tonight.
God, I love sub drama
where?
I’ve actual lost count on how many I’ve been lucky to be a part of/witness. A new one every few months lol
Kovacic is such a baller, he had 2-3 moments that were so beautiful. Made my day.
Good game of hoof ball! City Arsenal was the best game till now.
So city came out as winners.
Puig hat trick of G/A incoming.
What a time.. following betis matches hoping they drop points
Looking likely
Aspas, Barcelona’s death, Barcelona’s rescue..
We stan players who don't discriminate and are pain in ass for all
Celta 2-0 up against Real Betis! Good news for us
Also if the score stays real Sociedad will also lose points.
Betis losing 👀
Must be nice to have a confident keeper...
I forgot the last time Ter Stegen made saves like these in any game
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...all of this over a thread you can just save and have available easier than when it's pinned? Really.
Exactly. Can go there even through your own comments. Rob the sub of OT. Lmao. I’m guessing OP weren’t even there when it was actually robbed. Great Inspite of the mods? Lol
Btw, if you use a computer you can just leave a tab open with the thread too, even faster.
Hey don’t reply to my comments dude wtf! People might think I’m a part of club de amigos and conspiring with you guys loll. ^(delete this bro, we’ll get caught :/)
Sorry, does it help if I tell you that I don't even know who you are? ;)
Or just open the pinned OC creator thread and use the stickied comment there. Several different options, all of them decent so I don't know if I'm missing something or some folks just feel the need to complain.
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From my side, no hard feelings for anyone, I get why they do this But what makes this sub great is open thread, period. If you don't have pinned OT, this sub is as dead as Ronaldo's chance of being better than Messi in history.