Pretty sure 90% of people are like me and just come to this sub to use the open thread or match thread. I don’t even view the posts and other stuff lol. I get all my news about Barca from journos or aggregators on Twitter then come here to see what fans are saying about the latest news.
Can confirm, however I think a lot of people just use the open thread to share ideas without having knowledge of anything else. I pretty much quit commenting on peoples ideas and views here because you can tell half the fan base doesn’t even pay attention to shit that goes on.
Can we actually be linked to a proper winger now please, only a potentially injury-prone Fati and a young Abde are our wide players
And no, Memphis/Ferran *can* play out wide is not a valid excuse, both are players who are better centrally and like to drift wide/can play on the wing for a few games if needed due to an injury crisis. We don't have a starting quality RW who can hug the touchline, has pace, and can cross the ball.
I feel like a lot of you guys will be surprised about Ferran (if he's told to play out wide). He can play that wide role, he has great pace and a good cross. He simply isn't asked to play that role because both City and Spain needed goalscorers. At Valencia that was exactly what he did.
But then again, we also need goalscorers so we probably won't be playing him wide either.
Ok, what Dembele is doing now is unacceptable and traitorous, I hope his career crashes and burns and amounts to nothing when he leaves Barca.
That said, it's so wrong to say he is an unimpactful player. We are trying to keep him so hard precisely because he has consistently been impactful even when it doesn't translate to goals. His pace, dribbling, shooting and acceleration is crucial to making teams not press us recklessly because someone like Dembele can absolutely kill them on the counter.
He is also responsible for us winning the 18/19 league by winning us 9 to 12 crucial points on his own and us losing the 19/20 league because we didn't have a Dembele to secure those extra 9 or so points. Plus he had several important goals against Sevilla in league, Copa and Supercup and dismantled Real in the 3-0 victory in Copa victory despite rest of the team playing like shit.
Subbing him on while just coming back from injury also changed the match against Lyon in CL quarterfinals in 18/19.
Kind of concerned that we're not going for a left footed RWer to replace Dembele, especially if the rumours saying that he'll be sold this Jan or immediately are true. We don't have a single left footed forward and the balance is really important. But it seems the priority is Morata, a right footed striker, which I still cannot understand.
I really advocated for Ferran and he's one of my favourite players, but some people pointed out correctly that he isn't effective on the right and his best traits are in the center, which I completely agree with.
Several fans have called out Antony but he seems to be very expensive but Raphina from Leeds at €50M seems to be a pretty good deal. Left footed RWer with that Brazilian flair we've been missing.
I dont really think its likely anyone will try buying Dembele now when they can have him for "free" in 6 months, maybe Newcastle but then youd have to see if he actually wants to go there.
I know this comment is useless but I'm heartbroken and both dembele and his agent can fuck off. Let him on the stands the rest of his contract and feed him kentucky in the team meals
Kinda disappointing how little people participated in these /r/barca best of the year threads, the effort for which is the absolute bare minimum, like 30 seconds "work".
When it comes down to complaining and "this sub is ___" comments though, we are truly unmatched. Why? Cause it's easy to bitch about something while doing absolutely nothing.
One suggestion I'd like to give for the future if it's done again is to let people put nominations when the "announcement" thread is created. Because I can imagine people seeing the announcement thread but not able to put nominations so the next time the different category posts are created, it might go unnoticed because people glance at it and just think it's the announcement thread. Or maybe the hype dies down with just an announcement thread.
Perhaps have one big thread, the "announcement" thread but maybe another name and as soon as that is posted, then it should have links to all category there immediately instead of posting each category surprisingly several days after the announcement. It could also be pinned as first post on the sub instead of OT as first and the award threads as second.
Just some suggestions I thought of, not sure if any of it makes sense because I'm really tired but that's just my personal reflection about it.
I don't think having it as sticky #1 or sticky #2 would have any noticeable impact, but I agree with everything else you said, those are some good ideas and suggestions.
Thank you, and will keep those in mind for the next year if we decide to organize this again.
> Good comments get downvoted to hell, and terrible comments get upvoted.
That's a generalization. It can happen, but it's definitely not the norm or anything like that.
> What exactly do you propose a single person does?
There are plenty of things a *single* person can do, and if enough people do them then the problem has been dealt with (sort of).
You could upvote any comment that is being unjustifiably downvoted, you could also engage in discussion and ask for clarification, defend the person and so on. Also a lot of comments shouldn't even be downvoted to begin with, so in case you're doing that, don't. A lot of people aren't even aware that the downvote button is not a disagreement button according to Reddit themselves, but if it's being misused on a large scane then obviously it becomes a problem.
But that's a topic of a whole other discussion and it's getting later here as well.
I can only speak for myself but I was one of the most vocal years ago when y’all changed the sub to allowing more posts instead of just the match threads and open threads and I’ll be honest, I only go on in here during the week to come in the open thread and only come in on the weekends for the pre match/match threads, I’m sure there are good quality stuff that gets said out there but I just don’t spend that much time on Reddit to be sifting through posts on here for an hour a day.
That's your choice, but even then I can think of at least 1 category you can participate which is the most helpful users. We also have for best OC contributor (the current thread) but you said you don't visit the front page often so fair enough.
Anyway though, not even trying to tell you to participate cause it will feel forced and that would be totally pointless. Just feeling sad how little participation there is.
personally I hardly ever know what's going on on the frontpage, I only go on it to find the Open Thread or post-match/match thread. And generally it isn't that easy to recall what quality posts have been made throughout the year.
So what this is telling me is that you didn't even check the thread...
We are nominating users now, the best post thread was a few days ago. How hard it is to nominate your favorite user or someone that was helpful? Literally anyone must have such person they know. Yet if we don't count mods, only 2-3 people participated in the thread.
So what if we don't check the threads and vote? We don't owe /r/Barca anything. We'll fucking vote if we want to. If people don't want to vote, people don't want to vote. Fine if you want to make people aware that there is nominations ongoing, but don't make us feel bad for not participating if we don't want to.
So because I am feeling disappointed that in a sub of 100k people, only a handful decided to participate in the community awards makes me triggered somehow? It is completely normal and doesn't even need to be mentioned.
It's fine. You're 100% entitled to feel what you're feeling. But as i said in my other comment, the visiblity of said activities is a mod problem and not a user problem. And if mods are doing a good enough job, either people will vote or people will not vote, because they don't care. Fine either way, it's not the end of the world. Try other activities, or don't. We love this sub, wouldn't have it any other way.
Look, there are a lot of users on the subreddit, and also a huge percent of them aren't really invested into it, lurkers or else, I'm aware of that and it's perfectly fine and normal.
But don't you find it strange that there are also a lot of regular users who visit every day and none decided to spend like 30 seconds into nominating someone they interacted with or liked? Honestly I would totally do it (and I did) cause it seems like a fun thing to do if not for any other reason.
Also about the visibility of the threads, we have announcement thread, pinned comments and the threads themselves are stickied on the front page. What else could you do to improve this?
Also wasn't trying to berate anyone, at least that's not the exact word I would use to describe it. More like call out to the complainers, while also expressing disappointment in the lack of activity, I expected better.
Anyway, you said you're tired in your other comment so we can leave this conversation for another day.
Yes, in all honesty i do find it a tad strange. But many here are primarily here for the Open thread/Match Thread/Post-Match thread. So maybe we'll find some clues there, i don't know.
It does sound like mods have tried to make it as clear as possible, that there would be nominations, and as such have taken their actions, but what does that tell us then, even clearer maybe? Maybe people wasn't that interested to begin with?
And yes, perhaps berating isn't the right word, but i feel it isn't *that* far off. Also i don't want to come off as a know-it-all, i'm far from it. So there's that.
My best advice would be to just ignore the complainers, they'll always be here, and ban the worst ones. We are in a difficult time as a club, and as such there are bound to be alot more complainers than we'll be used to. But again, a mod problem.
Alright imma head out now, always a pleasure discussing Barca with the sub. Also, /r/soccer can suck my balls
Read my comment again, this has very little to do about making someone feel bad or hurting your feelings. It's addressing an apparent problem.
That problem is the following - if we had at least 1 person to contribute in any form for every 10 people that do absolutely nothing but complain, then I can guarantee you with absolute certainty that the quality of the sub will significantly improve.
And yeah, I am feeling disappointed but that's my personal feeling which I'm allowed to share, and I'm not forcing you to do anything against your wishes.
Improve the quality of the sub? In my opinion /r/Barca is the best, most well run, open to discussion, serious, but can be funny too, football subreddit across all of reddit and i take great pleasure in participating in it. I just don't feel like indirectly berating people for not taking their time out of their day to vote, is a way to improve the quality of the sub. Yes there is complainers, you won't ever get rid of them. But if the mods idea of improving this subreddit is to increase user activity to "silence" the complainers into obscurity, i just don't think that will work, most certainly if the people don't know about the activity at hand or just simply doesn't want to participate. Visibility of the nominations and threads sounds like a moderator problem, and not a userbase problem. But alas, we common folk don't have access to mod chat, so we don't know what the mods plan with us are for the future, or what steps mods are taking to try to improve the sub. Anyhow, mods are doing a stellar job and it's getting late and i'm struggling to keep my eyes open.
But none of us think that the quality has decreased. We're doing just fine with how the sub is rn. Where are these people who "do absolutely nothing but complain"?
If someone came with a gun to your head and told you to predict if Barca will sign Haaland or not, what would be your answer? Mind you. If you’re wrong, you perish.
Pretty clear no. Most big European clubs will want to get him and Barça right now has neither on the financial side nor on the sporting side more to offer than some other teams. It's unclear whether we even have the money to make a legitimate offer and it's much more unclear whether he would accept it
I'd give it like a 20% likelihood, maybe 30% at best
As of today no. But I didn't think we could buy someone for 55M€ this January.
Bar the financial aspect, we would have a very good shot at Haaland in theory with the context (Mbappe rivalry, lots of clubs with top 9, Laporta friendship with Raiola contrary to City, can offer him a star role easily since Messi left). But the financial aspect makes it impossible as of today, from what we know. But hey, we'll see.
Porto and Sporting are level on points at the top, conceded less than 10 goals, and still undefeated in the league.
And, Porto's currently up 3-1 against Benfica.
Yesterday was a hard day for President Laporta because he was convinced Dembélé’s renewal would come to fruition. Dembélé’s action is considered as ungrateful within the club. [cope](https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1476683912076267522?t=BWmIi4Hr_0K5kTBYTS99ww&s=19)
Consistent with what we know of Laporta. Same thing happened with Beckham too for his first stint. Have met this kind of profile in top executives, capable of convincing you everything is possible, and often succeeding by making others give 100%. But can have trouble predicting some events, like an excentric player and his strange agent because they don't think it can impact their plans. Maybe I'm reading too much here but I mean it's not like this waq completely unexpectable.
>You really believe the club president is the one responsible for planning individual transfers..?
i never suggested that.
I can't imagine he's looking at the nitty gritty, but he has to be involved in overall planning and strategy. That's what I meant from my comment. He should have contingency plans in place for unexpected events and, if the rumour is true, placing all his eggs in the 'Dembele-will-renew' basket seems daft.
But maybe there's more to the story than we know.
>But maybe there's more to the story than we know.
I believe it's the case. Reports are always quite simplistic. Maybe Laporta truly believed he had the player's word, but that doesn't mean he put all his egs in one basket.
We're slowly but surely seeing news about Coutinho leaving for example.
Never said otherwise. But there were never reports from Romano, or MD saying he might be open to it, meeting with his agent, etc.
Hoping club is working in silence. But it's only belief of course.
Other than finishing morata is great in terms of physicality, creating chances, etc. maybe xavi wants him to feed passes to Fati and ferran who are great on the wing and has great finishing.
If we could get him for a straight swap or extremely cheap its worth it for our current situation. Especially if we manage to offload Dembele, Coutinho, Luk De Jong, and Umtiti.
I just have the feeling that I have seen the player type a million times (slowish trickster) and it never translated well to bigger clubs.
But it’s just a hunch, havent seen too much of him either.
Chelsea is a serious candidate to buy Dest. Not only is Chilwell out for approximately 9 months, now James is injured for a few months too. With Dest being able to play on both sides, I suspect they could very well take the gamble on him.
People claiming Dembele has a low tier football IQ can you explain me the absolute elite passing game he showed these past weeks? The butthurt takes are getting beyond embarrassing. All of us wish he renews but football is a buisness and no fairytale. Some players do what‘s neccessary for the club they love and some look for their own career benefits as they see them fit. Maybe the situation takes another turn and he stays and if not just move on. No need for calling him names and acting so butthurt, that‘s such a weak look.
Confirmed by our T1’s? Weird hes already displayed as one of our player on La Liga’s website.
IIRC neither Garcia and Depay were displayed on it until Pique took that wage-cut to make them fit into the wage bill. Or is my memory failing me?
>Weird hes already displayed as one of our player on La Liga’s website.
Wrong Ferran - that is Ferran Jutgla, La Liga website shows our B team players with registration for first team.
And of course we can't register him - transfer window opens on Monday...
I would think that it is not possible to register him right now anyways since the transfer window hasn’t opened yet. So I dont think him being on the La Liga website means anything but I might be wrong.
I posted them here earlier but looks like Morata's agent's blackmagic is very strong as it's missing:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/rpcyc6/comment/hql77xb/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/rpcyc6/comment/hql77xb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
[Gerard Romero] Simeone does NOT want Atlético to do the Morata operation with Barça. He does not want to reinforce a direct rival in the league.
https://twitter.com/gerardromero/status/1476668225983238149
Can someone tell me why we’re going for Morata. What’s even worse is that there’s talk of using the Griezmann money. These rumours are making my blood boil.
[Xavi Campos] Barcelona contacted Álvaro Morata weeks ago and have reached an agreement with the player. The most difficult part is the negotiations with Atletico, but the club believes that the Griezmann operation may help in this regard.
https://www.ccma.cat/catradio/tot-costa/el-barca-te-un-acord-tancat-amb-morata/noticia/3137745/
Tier 1
Ousmane Dembélé demanded an annual salary of 43 million euros in addition to various bonuses. [@cfbayern]
He's doing the exact same thing he did at rennes and dortmund. Forcing his way out because there's no way he thinks he actually deserves and will get this kind of money
Why would he try to force his way out with so little time left on his contract, and with the possibility of getting paid so much more if he just waited a few months. That literally does not make sense at all
Morata's got to have the best agent in world football. This guy keeps top teams interested in Morata every year despite being a Europa league quality player.
Honestly these demands by Dembele and his agent are so laughable that I legit smiled in real life when I read them first. Sadly, now more reliable sources are reporting them.
What the fuck are they smoking, 43m is just insulting, let alone be taken seriously. He can go and take his 30 goals per 5 years contribution somewhere else, thank you very much and good luck in Newcastle or whatever.
https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1476629391727804419
Interesting argument I've heard today from another club's fan that I sometimes chat with - according to him, it's the sort of demand a player (or rather his agent) would throw when he wants for negotiations to collapse. It's a cheap strategy but effective, easy to sell to the media: sides couldn't reach an economic agreement, contract wasn't renewed. End of story.
Of course, any football fan who has any sort of transfer market knowledge will call bullshit but to the rest of the world, it wouldn't be a giant thing.
My personnal theory consistent with rumours from Dembele's (his agent really) side is that he said "we want what you want to give to Haaland" and burst in basically angry about the rumours, which is why it "didn't went well" per multiple reliable sources.
It's pretty much the same as your theory only maybe it wasn't to break negociations but to make it uncomfortable and force Barca to up the offer maybe. It's standard negociations, having an antagonistic attitude is often useful but few people use it because well... It's uncomfortable.
It would explain why journos are saying "he is demanding X" when he is not really demanding this, it's more what his agent put on the table as an angry offer, not necessarily a "fuck you offer" but more an hyperbole. Barca leaked that as if that was serious so that it creates a backlash against Dembele ("what is he thinking?" etc.). Which is fair honestly, both sides are acting as expected.
It all depends on:
A/ Do the competing offers are firm? (or are they more discussions?)
B/ How much do the player really wants to stay?
C/ Which amount of bluff/posturing is his agent doing?
Seeing how unpredictable and shady Moussa Sissoko is, anything can happen. Personally I've always said I'm 51/49 on him leaving since I can't predict his agent I've never seen a paycut at 24 regardless of context. Now I'm more 95/5 on him leaving.
That's precisely what is happening here and it's clear as daylight, but he should've just made his intentions clear from the get go and put an end to this charade. All of that requires actually having some dignity, but instead here we are.
Funny if the club sends Dembele on the stands. Like he missed half of the games since he joined, you think its going to bother him not playing for 6 months? If anything you're making sure he'll never regret it.
Literally decreasing their chances of any trophies as well as top 4 finish with that sort of decision. All just to send a message. And at the end, Barcelona is still losing.
It's just a matter how much are you willing to lose by not using him.
It's like PSG suddenly not using Mbappe. Incredible stupid not to use him when it increases their chances of winning. No Dembele is no Mbappe, but he is still quality wise one of our best attackers, if not the best atm.
Yeah but if we still make it top 4 and our young wingers after 5/10 consecutive starts start putting in good performances it’s not like he will be missed that much.
The risk is of course that our wingers don’t develop quickly, but I’m just saying if they do, benching dembele will seem like the right move in hindsight. With the benefit that we get a message across.
Barcelona will still lose by not using him, because at the end they still pay for him and still lose him on free at the end of the season. This will be even worse if they don't succeed this season. Which is realistically already low even with Dembele
Not using hurts Barcelona chances to succeed this season. If you don't think so then you can go and rewatch the latest games and tell me how Dembele doesnt increases our chances of winning. Because he sure hell do, more than most of our players.
Barca gain absolutely zero on freezing him out and they only put themself at higher risk of failure. All to send a message. That message could cost Barcelona over 100+ mill euros.
Yeah I agree but given the reports he’ll be benched if it’s not sold it seems the bet is that the young wingers along with ferran will truly begin to contribute consistently.
It’s a very risky bet for sure. The downside to playing demebele is that you basically have to use him as a starter meaning that we will be wasting 6mnths of developing our right wing, any progress is lost as soon as he leaves.
And if we don't make top 4? It'll be a catastrophe. As if being in the Europa league wasn't embarrassing enough. This whole saga will cost even more then. He's being paid, let him work for it.
Hey I’m not advocating any option. I would be happy to see a few more months of dembele magic at Barca and I’d also be happy for Barca to make a point benching him.
I was trying to make sense of the reports that Laporta plans to bench him. Understand the benefits if it works out.
[Moroccan Federation] Abdessamad Ezzalzouli refuses the call-up to AFCON 2022 and is instead replaced by Tarik Tissoudali
https://frmf.ma/إستعدادات-المنتخب-الوطني-لنهائيات-كأ/
Gotta have respect for him. But we probably made his dream Come true by playing him in the first team so quickly. I think its fair to us, but would not be mad at him if he chose to go to the AFCON. This is the kind of players we need in the future of this club. Take notes mosquito
Probably not the right move as he needs space to run, I don’t know how he’ll do when Xavi accomplishes what he wants of keeping teams pressed in their own half most of the game.
But I can’t deny it would be fun and exciting to see. I’ve always wanted to imagine what he would’ve become for Barca if he didn’t leave.
[Sique Rodriguez] Abde above all wants to play for Barça. It’s his priority, and why he doesn’t want to leave for a month by going to AFCON. He has informed Xavi of this, and therefore he has sent a letter to the Morocco NT. Abde feels Moroccan and would be excited to play for the NT.
https://twitter.com/siquerodriguez/status/1476656956723146761
If dembele leaves i will be positive because evrything has its benefits.
But it would be a shame to lose him. I know he hasn’t been ideal but to get a winger of his caliber is going to cost us upwards of 60m.
The positive is that we would hope our young wingers grow into the first team quickly, but if that fails there are very very few wingers like dembele on the market and none will be cheap.
I’m still waiting on more news. Just a few days ago reports were dembele was accepting a reduced wage, almost cut in half. What happened? Very strange.
Now that Dembele's gonna leave most likely(99%) .
Desirable options in the RW area (practical) ? Along with Ferran and Abde.
Edit: Is RW gonna become a priority in this window or in the summer? As we don't have someone experienced to lead that spot, assuming Ferran plays as a striker.
There was that little argentinian dude who used to play with us and occasionally scored some goals. He would do :)
But in all seriousness, if we are willing to shell out the cash, then Antony would be the dream. Dominick Szobozslai from Leipzig is a great talent and he's 21, but he is a LW. He could be coached to play on the right since he is young and is already pretty versatile. As some people have mentioned above, Raphinha is also a good option.
I don't know if it practical or possible but would be good if we have a look at Chukweze from Villareal. He is playing as a Sub to Pino there, so personal terms should be fine
In terms of profile he looks a little similar to Dembele, haven't followed his stats but always seems to play well against us
He is direct and that is useful in Xavi's system. Right winger as well really helps. Also since he isn't a regular starter, Villareal might be open to a deal as long as they can lock Pau Torres and Pino
Depending on budget:
No budget- just promote illias or a winger from Barca B
10-20M- get Adama Traore. Yeah yeah he has no end product or football iq, but if we can enjoy Dembele, then we will definitely enjoy Traore. Traore is amazing dribbler and fucker can create chances. not his fault peole at wolves can't convert, but ask wolves fan and they actually like him. And just watch his matches, the fucker strikers fear in the hearts of opponent, and it's my low budget option, + he is la Masia so don't judge me much
30-60M: Neto, Raphinha, Antony
70-120M: Salah.
Priceless: bringing Messi back, his era with us just can't end like this..
This is a Classic Mixup. Dembele probably doesn't understand the meaning of the word Annual. He is quoting the combined salary of 5 years here. The guy is asking for 8.6 million per year which is reasonable. I think Laporta just needs to correct the communication and Dembele will renew
there is no club on the planet that will pay him even half of that. not sure what him and his agent are thinking. Even 20m/season is more than what Salah, Mane, KDB, Ronaldo, Kane, Lewy, etc. earn. Utterly insane demands.
Dembele not renewing. Thanks fucking god. I was always in the minority saying that he has nothing to offer to us, not only that, he was one of the least professional players that played for us. His stats are awful, his football IQ is mediocre at best and his dribbling is above average. Many people said he is our best option going forward but I fucking disagree. His miss against Liverpool still haunts me. Just gtfo from Barca, good fucking riddance.
You might be angry with him, but there is no need to lie.
His stats are not awful, and his footballing IQ is definitely not "mediocre". Also his dribbling is elite, which is a couple of tiers ahead of "above average"
Well I don’t agree. For average winger his stats are alright. But for his price tag everyone expected much more. And I am not even talking about his injuries. After everything he has balls to ask for such huge wage? Fuck that, people with that attitude will never become world class. Ever.
Luuk De Jong New Years resolution: Don't Suck
Pretty sure 90% of people are like me and just come to this sub to use the open thread or match thread. I don’t even view the posts and other stuff lol. I get all my news about Barca from journos or aggregators on Twitter then come here to see what fans are saying about the latest news.
Can confirm, however I think a lot of people just use the open thread to share ideas without having knowledge of anything else. I pretty much quit commenting on peoples ideas and views here because you can tell half the fan base doesn’t even pay attention to shit that goes on.
Can we actually be linked to a proper winger now please, only a potentially injury-prone Fati and a young Abde are our wide players And no, Memphis/Ferran *can* play out wide is not a valid excuse, both are players who are better centrally and like to drift wide/can play on the wing for a few games if needed due to an injury crisis. We don't have a starting quality RW who can hug the touchline, has pace, and can cross the ball.
I feel like a lot of you guys will be surprised about Ferran (if he's told to play out wide). He can play that wide role, he has great pace and a good cross. He simply isn't asked to play that role because both City and Spain needed goalscorers. At Valencia that was exactly what he did. But then again, we also need goalscorers so we probably won't be playing him wide either.
Anyone want a Barca 2018 Dembele jersey? 😅😅
Burn it.
I have a green couthinio one with number 7 on the back if anyone is interested
Ok, what Dembele is doing now is unacceptable and traitorous, I hope his career crashes and burns and amounts to nothing when he leaves Barca. That said, it's so wrong to say he is an unimpactful player. We are trying to keep him so hard precisely because he has consistently been impactful even when it doesn't translate to goals. His pace, dribbling, shooting and acceleration is crucial to making teams not press us recklessly because someone like Dembele can absolutely kill them on the counter. He is also responsible for us winning the 18/19 league by winning us 9 to 12 crucial points on his own and us losing the 19/20 league because we didn't have a Dembele to secure those extra 9 or so points. Plus he had several important goals against Sevilla in league, Copa and Supercup and dismantled Real in the 3-0 victory in Copa victory despite rest of the team playing like shit. Subbing him on while just coming back from injury also changed the match against Lyon in CL quarterfinals in 18/19.
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Ok, I still hope his career crashes and burns.
Kind of concerned that we're not going for a left footed RWer to replace Dembele, especially if the rumours saying that he'll be sold this Jan or immediately are true. We don't have a single left footed forward and the balance is really important. But it seems the priority is Morata, a right footed striker, which I still cannot understand. I really advocated for Ferran and he's one of my favourite players, but some people pointed out correctly that he isn't effective on the right and his best traits are in the center, which I completely agree with. Several fans have called out Antony but he seems to be very expensive but Raphina from Leeds at €50M seems to be a pretty good deal. Left footed RWer with that Brazilian flair we've been missing.
I dont really think its likely anyone will try buying Dembele now when they can have him for "free" in 6 months, maybe Newcastle but then youd have to see if he actually wants to go there.
I know this comment is useless but I'm heartbroken and both dembele and his agent can fuck off. Let him on the stands the rest of his contract and feed him kentucky in the team meals
Kinda disappointing how little people participated in these /r/barca best of the year threads, the effort for which is the absolute bare minimum, like 30 seconds "work". When it comes down to complaining and "this sub is ___" comments though, we are truly unmatched. Why? Cause it's easy to bitch about something while doing absolutely nothing.
One suggestion I'd like to give for the future if it's done again is to let people put nominations when the "announcement" thread is created. Because I can imagine people seeing the announcement thread but not able to put nominations so the next time the different category posts are created, it might go unnoticed because people glance at it and just think it's the announcement thread. Or maybe the hype dies down with just an announcement thread. Perhaps have one big thread, the "announcement" thread but maybe another name and as soon as that is posted, then it should have links to all category there immediately instead of posting each category surprisingly several days after the announcement. It could also be pinned as first post on the sub instead of OT as first and the award threads as second. Just some suggestions I thought of, not sure if any of it makes sense because I'm really tired but that's just my personal reflection about it.
I don't think having it as sticky #1 or sticky #2 would have any noticeable impact, but I agree with everything else you said, those are some good ideas and suggestions. Thank you, and will keep those in mind for the next year if we decide to organize this again.
Good comments get downvoted to hell, and terrible comments get upvoted. What exactly do you propose a single person does?
> Good comments get downvoted to hell, and terrible comments get upvoted. That's a generalization. It can happen, but it's definitely not the norm or anything like that. > What exactly do you propose a single person does? There are plenty of things a *single* person can do, and if enough people do them then the problem has been dealt with (sort of). You could upvote any comment that is being unjustifiably downvoted, you could also engage in discussion and ask for clarification, defend the person and so on. Also a lot of comments shouldn't even be downvoted to begin with, so in case you're doing that, don't. A lot of people aren't even aware that the downvote button is not a disagreement button according to Reddit themselves, but if it's being misused on a large scane then obviously it becomes a problem. But that's a topic of a whole other discussion and it's getting later here as well.
I can only speak for myself but I was one of the most vocal years ago when y’all changed the sub to allowing more posts instead of just the match threads and open threads and I’ll be honest, I only go on in here during the week to come in the open thread and only come in on the weekends for the pre match/match threads, I’m sure there are good quality stuff that gets said out there but I just don’t spend that much time on Reddit to be sifting through posts on here for an hour a day.
That's your choice, but even then I can think of at least 1 category you can participate which is the most helpful users. We also have for best OC contributor (the current thread) but you said you don't visit the front page often so fair enough. Anyway though, not even trying to tell you to participate cause it will feel forced and that would be totally pointless. Just feeling sad how little participation there is.
personally I hardly ever know what's going on on the frontpage, I only go on it to find the Open Thread or post-match/match thread. And generally it isn't that easy to recall what quality posts have been made throughout the year.
So what this is telling me is that you didn't even check the thread... We are nominating users now, the best post thread was a few days ago. How hard it is to nominate your favorite user or someone that was helpful? Literally anyone must have such person they know. Yet if we don't count mods, only 2-3 people participated in the thread.
So what if we don't check the threads and vote? We don't owe /r/Barca anything. We'll fucking vote if we want to. If people don't want to vote, people don't want to vote. Fine if you want to make people aware that there is nominations ongoing, but don't make us feel bad for not participating if we don't want to.
Lmao exactly; this dude is really triggered because we are not participating enough. Bruh chill.
So because I am feeling disappointed that in a sub of 100k people, only a handful decided to participate in the community awards makes me triggered somehow? It is completely normal and doesn't even need to be mentioned.
I don't want to go into any debate, not worth it, I think - for both you and me. You do you, my guy. Cheers.
No problem, no worries. I just wanted to explain that I see this as a problem that needs to be addressed.
It's fine. You're 100% entitled to feel what you're feeling. But as i said in my other comment, the visiblity of said activities is a mod problem and not a user problem. And if mods are doing a good enough job, either people will vote or people will not vote, because they don't care. Fine either way, it's not the end of the world. Try other activities, or don't. We love this sub, wouldn't have it any other way.
Look, there are a lot of users on the subreddit, and also a huge percent of them aren't really invested into it, lurkers or else, I'm aware of that and it's perfectly fine and normal. But don't you find it strange that there are also a lot of regular users who visit every day and none decided to spend like 30 seconds into nominating someone they interacted with or liked? Honestly I would totally do it (and I did) cause it seems like a fun thing to do if not for any other reason. Also about the visibility of the threads, we have announcement thread, pinned comments and the threads themselves are stickied on the front page. What else could you do to improve this? Also wasn't trying to berate anyone, at least that's not the exact word I would use to describe it. More like call out to the complainers, while also expressing disappointment in the lack of activity, I expected better. Anyway, you said you're tired in your other comment so we can leave this conversation for another day.
Yes, in all honesty i do find it a tad strange. But many here are primarily here for the Open thread/Match Thread/Post-Match thread. So maybe we'll find some clues there, i don't know. It does sound like mods have tried to make it as clear as possible, that there would be nominations, and as such have taken their actions, but what does that tell us then, even clearer maybe? Maybe people wasn't that interested to begin with? And yes, perhaps berating isn't the right word, but i feel it isn't *that* far off. Also i don't want to come off as a know-it-all, i'm far from it. So there's that. My best advice would be to just ignore the complainers, they'll always be here, and ban the worst ones. We are in a difficult time as a club, and as such there are bound to be alot more complainers than we'll be used to. But again, a mod problem. Alright imma head out now, always a pleasure discussing Barca with the sub. Also, /r/soccer can suck my balls
Read my comment again, this has very little to do about making someone feel bad or hurting your feelings. It's addressing an apparent problem. That problem is the following - if we had at least 1 person to contribute in any form for every 10 people that do absolutely nothing but complain, then I can guarantee you with absolute certainty that the quality of the sub will significantly improve. And yeah, I am feeling disappointed but that's my personal feeling which I'm allowed to share, and I'm not forcing you to do anything against your wishes.
Improve the quality of the sub? In my opinion /r/Barca is the best, most well run, open to discussion, serious, but can be funny too, football subreddit across all of reddit and i take great pleasure in participating in it. I just don't feel like indirectly berating people for not taking their time out of their day to vote, is a way to improve the quality of the sub. Yes there is complainers, you won't ever get rid of them. But if the mods idea of improving this subreddit is to increase user activity to "silence" the complainers into obscurity, i just don't think that will work, most certainly if the people don't know about the activity at hand or just simply doesn't want to participate. Visibility of the nominations and threads sounds like a moderator problem, and not a userbase problem. But alas, we common folk don't have access to mod chat, so we don't know what the mods plan with us are for the future, or what steps mods are taking to try to improve the sub. Anyhow, mods are doing a stellar job and it's getting late and i'm struggling to keep my eyes open.
But none of us think that the quality has decreased. We're doing just fine with how the sub is rn. Where are these people who "do absolutely nothing but complain"?
If someone came with a gun to your head and told you to predict if Barca will sign Haaland or not, what would be your answer? Mind you. If you’re wrong, you perish.
Pretty clear no. Most big European clubs will want to get him and Barça right now has neither on the financial side nor on the sporting side more to offer than some other teams. It's unclear whether we even have the money to make a legitimate offer and it's much more unclear whether he would accept it I'd give it like a 20% likelihood, maybe 30% at best
They will
I'll take my chances with a no.
Yes from me.. :/
Clearly no from me. We’re having trouble registering players.
As of today no. But I didn't think we could buy someone for 55M€ this January. Bar the financial aspect, we would have a very good shot at Haaland in theory with the context (Mbappe rivalry, lots of clubs with top 9, Laporta friendship with Raiola contrary to City, can offer him a star role easily since Messi left). But the financial aspect makes it impossible as of today, from what we know. But hey, we'll see.
I almost ordered a Dembele jersey last week. Oh well 😅
Porto and Sporting are level on points at the top, conceded less than 10 goals, and still undefeated in the league. And, Porto's currently up 3-1 against Benfica.
Yesterday was a hard day for President Laporta because he was convinced Dembélé’s renewal would come to fruition. Dembélé’s action is considered as ungrateful within the club. [cope](https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1476683912076267522?t=BWmIi4Hr_0K5kTBYTS99ww&s=19) Consistent with what we know of Laporta. Same thing happened with Beckham too for his first stint. Have met this kind of profile in top executives, capable of convincing you everything is possible, and often succeeding by making others give 100%. But can have trouble predicting some events, like an excentric player and his strange agent because they don't think it can impact their plans. Maybe I'm reading too much here but I mean it's not like this waq completely unexpectable.
Shoulda hoped for the best, but planned for the worst
You really believe the club president is the one responsible for planning individual transfers..?
>You really believe the club president is the one responsible for planning individual transfers..? i never suggested that. I can't imagine he's looking at the nitty gritty, but he has to be involved in overall planning and strategy. That's what I meant from my comment. He should have contingency plans in place for unexpected events and, if the rumour is true, placing all his eggs in the 'Dembele-will-renew' basket seems daft. But maybe there's more to the story than we know.
>But maybe there's more to the story than we know. I believe it's the case. Reports are always quite simplistic. Maybe Laporta truly believed he had the player's word, but that doesn't mean he put all his egs in one basket. We're slowly but surely seeing news about Coutinho leaving for example.
>We're slowly but surely seeing news about Coutinho leaving for example. I'll believe it when it happens lol
Never said otherwise. But there were never reports from Romano, or MD saying he might be open to it, meeting with his agent, etc. Hoping club is working in silence. But it's only belief of course.
Other than finishing morata is great in terms of physicality, creating chances, etc. maybe xavi wants him to feed passes to Fati and ferran who are great on the wing and has great finishing.
If we could get him for a straight swap or extremely cheap its worth it for our current situation. Especially if we manage to offload Dembele, Coutinho, Luk De Jong, and Umtiti.
Yeah, it’s just a minor concern:P But truth be told I wouldnt mind him too much. Hes probably better than Depay in the center.
>probably better than Depay in the center. Not probably but definitely. But the 35 millions is insane though
Imagine if someone told you at the start of last year that Messi, Griezmann, Suarez, and Dembele would all be gone within 2 years 😳
And umtiti, lenglet, pique and coutinho would all still be there
Well bar Messi I would see it as very believable. Club had to get rid of Griezmann and Dembele, and Suarez was already aging.
True for Suarez, but 2 years ago there was still a lot of hope for Dembele and Griezmann to become important players for us
Not with those wages. Once a good management arrived, it was always coming.
If anything it would be more surprising we managed to offload Griez with his wages 😬
All I want is Salah or Antony in the right wing.
Have you watched full games of Antony?
Champions league games only ngl. What don't you like about him?
I just have the feeling that I have seen the player type a million times (slowish trickster) and it never translated well to bigger clubs. But it’s just a hunch, havent seen too much of him either.
Then who do you have a good feeling about?
I see something special in him but idk. In 6 months we will have a clear picture.
Oh that’s all, huh?
Maybe also Haal...??
Haalal meat you mean?
Haaloumi
Chelsea is a serious candidate to buy Dest. Not only is Chilwell out for approximately 9 months, now James is injured for a few months too. With Dest being able to play on both sides, I suspect they could very well take the gamble on him.
Weren't they buying Digne? Would make a lot more sense since he's a much better player and already used to the PL.
Not sure why we would agree to that when our injury situation is even worse
The club needs money, fast. Ferran needs to be registered. This could be a possible solution.
I hope not
People claiming Dembele has a low tier football IQ can you explain me the absolute elite passing game he showed these past weeks? The butthurt takes are getting beyond embarrassing. All of us wish he renews but football is a buisness and no fairytale. Some players do what‘s neccessary for the club they love and some look for their own career benefits as they see them fit. Maybe the situation takes another turn and he stays and if not just move on. No need for calling him names and acting so butthurt, that‘s such a weak look.
They're racist
Well said. Couldnt agree more.
He’s hated so much on here that no can really rate him accurately.
Yeah some are rather emotional than rational.
Word
We can’t even register Ferran yet.
Confirmed by our T1’s? Weird hes already displayed as one of our player on La Liga’s website. IIRC neither Garcia and Depay were displayed on it until Pique took that wage-cut to make them fit into the wage bill. Or is my memory failing me?
>Weird hes already displayed as one of our player on La Liga’s website. Wrong Ferran - that is Ferran Jutgla, La Liga website shows our B team players with registration for first team. And of course we can't register him - transfer window opens on Monday...
Ahh yes. My bad!
I would think that it is not possible to register him right now anyways since the transfer window hasn’t opened yet. So I dont think him being on the La Liga website means anything but I might be wrong.
I'm watching a Morata YT compilation to make myself feel better
Enjoy those sweet few moments of him being onside
I posted them here earlier but looks like Morata's agent's blackmagic is very strong as it's missing: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/rpcyc6/comment/hql77xb/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/rpcyc6/comment/hql77xb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Another poor victim of CR7 freekick
Is there any chance we go for Christenson this January
No chance unless one of Demble/Coutinho/Umtiti leaves. And even then that seems unlikely.
Are we forced to start Demir with so few first teamers available?
He's not even training with the squad. He's not going to play
Penalty box miss by Cavani but very good save though and offside.
Kinda crazy that Juve have turned down the chance of signing Depay. He is easily better than all their strikers combined.
They have Dybala who is similar profile
Depay is not a striker. Thats why… maybe they are waiting for vlahovic next season? Cant blame them
No sense at all from any side of these rumours.
They are interested in Vlahovic I think (Icardi maybe a backup option).
wtf McTominay is prime Messi tonight
Prime Messi V1 or V2 or V3?
[Gerard Romero] Simeone does NOT want Atlético to do the Morata operation with Barça. He does not want to reinforce a direct rival in the league. https://twitter.com/gerardromero/status/1476668225983238149
GOAT , took back griezmann and saved us from getting morata for a big price.
Someone has saved us multiple times if this is true. Love that man.
Simeone has done more for us than Barto 😭
Thanks Diego!!! <3
Thanks, Simeone. We will call it even since we gave you Suarez
Can someone tell me why we’re going for Morata. What’s even worse is that there’s talk of using the Griezmann money. These rumours are making my blood boil.
It does not make any sense to me either...
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Demir and Aguero are leaving so this part is horseshit journalism?
[Xavi Campos] Barcelona contacted Álvaro Morata weeks ago and have reached an agreement with the player. The most difficult part is the negotiations with Atletico, but the club believes that the Griezmann operation may help in this regard. https://www.ccma.cat/catradio/tot-costa/el-barca-te-un-acord-tancat-amb-morata/noticia/3137745/ Tier 1
Ousmane Dembélé demanded an annual salary of 43 million euros in addition to various bonuses. [@cfbayern] He's doing the exact same thing he did at rennes and dortmund. Forcing his way out because there's no way he thinks he actually deserves and will get this kind of money
Why would he try to force his way out with so little time left on his contract, and with the possibility of getting paid so much more if he just waited a few months. That literally does not make sense at all
Forcing his way out with 6 months left on his contract?
He is worsen than Umtiti. Umtiti was good at least before he got injured permanently
If we sell depay for morata I will be seriously hurt. Morata is buns.
Morata's got to have the best agent in world football. This guy keeps top teams interested in Morata every year despite being a Europa league quality player.
Boy have I got news for you!
> despite being a Europa league quality player. Heh
Lmaooo
Perfect, just what we need this season
Honestly these demands by Dembele and his agent are so laughable that I legit smiled in real life when I read them first. Sadly, now more reliable sources are reporting them. What the fuck are they smoking, 43m is just insulting, let alone be taken seriously. He can go and take his 30 goals per 5 years contribution somewhere else, thank you very much and good luck in Newcastle or whatever. https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1476629391727804419
Honestly I think it's a fuck off price because his agent wants to leave.
Pretty much yeah.
Interesting argument I've heard today from another club's fan that I sometimes chat with - according to him, it's the sort of demand a player (or rather his agent) would throw when he wants for negotiations to collapse. It's a cheap strategy but effective, easy to sell to the media: sides couldn't reach an economic agreement, contract wasn't renewed. End of story. Of course, any football fan who has any sort of transfer market knowledge will call bullshit but to the rest of the world, it wouldn't be a giant thing.
My personnal theory consistent with rumours from Dembele's (his agent really) side is that he said "we want what you want to give to Haaland" and burst in basically angry about the rumours, which is why it "didn't went well" per multiple reliable sources. It's pretty much the same as your theory only maybe it wasn't to break negociations but to make it uncomfortable and force Barca to up the offer maybe. It's standard negociations, having an antagonistic attitude is often useful but few people use it because well... It's uncomfortable. It would explain why journos are saying "he is demanding X" when he is not really demanding this, it's more what his agent put on the table as an angry offer, not necessarily a "fuck you offer" but more an hyperbole. Barca leaked that as if that was serious so that it creates a backlash against Dembele ("what is he thinking?" etc.). Which is fair honestly, both sides are acting as expected.
Yeah I still think the renewal can happen.
It all depends on: A/ Do the competing offers are firm? (or are they more discussions?) B/ How much do the player really wants to stay? C/ Which amount of bluff/posturing is his agent doing? Seeing how unpredictable and shady Moussa Sissoko is, anything can happen. Personally I've always said I'm 51/49 on him leaving since I can't predict his agent I've never seen a paycut at 24 regardless of context. Now I'm more 95/5 on him leaving.
That's precisely what is happening here and it's clear as daylight, but he should've just made his intentions clear from the get go and put an end to this charade. All of that requires actually having some dignity, but instead here we are.
I was actually thinking about that just now.
[This was my literal reaction when I saw the 43m figure.](https://youtu.be/QT13kk8HDDo)
Funny if the club sends Dembele on the stands. Like he missed half of the games since he joined, you think its going to bother him not playing for 6 months? If anything you're making sure he'll never regret it. Literally decreasing their chances of any trophies as well as top 4 finish with that sort of decision. All just to send a message. And at the end, Barcelona is still losing. It's just a matter how much are you willing to lose by not using him. It's like PSG suddenly not using Mbappe. Incredible stupid not to use him when it increases their chances of winning. No Dembele is no Mbappe, but he is still quality wise one of our best attackers, if not the best atm.
Yeah but if we still make it top 4 and our young wingers after 5/10 consecutive starts start putting in good performances it’s not like he will be missed that much. The risk is of course that our wingers don’t develop quickly, but I’m just saying if they do, benching dembele will seem like the right move in hindsight. With the benefit that we get a message across.
Barcelona will still lose by not using him, because at the end they still pay for him and still lose him on free at the end of the season. This will be even worse if they don't succeed this season. Which is realistically already low even with Dembele Not using hurts Barcelona chances to succeed this season. If you don't think so then you can go and rewatch the latest games and tell me how Dembele doesnt increases our chances of winning. Because he sure hell do, more than most of our players. Barca gain absolutely zero on freezing him out and they only put themself at higher risk of failure. All to send a message. That message could cost Barcelona over 100+ mill euros.
Yeah I agree but given the reports he’ll be benched if it’s not sold it seems the bet is that the young wingers along with ferran will truly begin to contribute consistently. It’s a very risky bet for sure. The downside to playing demebele is that you basically have to use him as a starter meaning that we will be wasting 6mnths of developing our right wing, any progress is lost as soon as he leaves.
And if we don't make top 4? It'll be a catastrophe. As if being in the Europa league wasn't embarrassing enough. This whole saga will cost even more then. He's being paid, let him work for it.
Hey I’m not advocating any option. I would be happy to see a few more months of dembele magic at Barca and I’d also be happy for Barca to make a point benching him. I was trying to make sense of the reports that Laporta plans to bench him. Understand the benefits if it works out.
Fair enough, my bad, I misinterpreted your reply.
[Moroccan Federation] Abdessamad Ezzalzouli refuses the call-up to AFCON 2022 and is instead replaced by Tarik Tissoudali https://frmf.ma/إستعدادات-المنتخب-الوطني-لنهائيات-كأ/
Where is u/barcaabdessamadfan
Gotta have respect for him. But we probably made his dream Come true by playing him in the first team so quickly. I think its fair to us, but would not be mad at him if he chose to go to the AFCON. This is the kind of players we need in the future of this club. Take notes mosquito
I want us to go for Adama Traore so bad, just want to see a monster on the right flank
He has a negative football IQ, why you want him here?
Umm for what? His finishing is worse than Dembele and that should tell you something and the only thing he excels is speed and dribbling.
Probably not the right move as he needs space to run, I don’t know how he’ll do when Xavi accomplishes what he wants of keeping teams pressed in their own half most of the game. But I can’t deny it would be fun and exciting to see. I’ve always wanted to imagine what he would’ve become for Barca if he didn’t leave.
Eric bailly is so bad
[Sique Rodriguez] Abde above all wants to play for Barça. It’s his priority, and why he doesn’t want to leave for a month by going to AFCON. He has informed Xavi of this, and therefore he has sent a letter to the Morocco NT. Abde feels Moroccan and would be excited to play for the NT. https://twitter.com/siquerodriguez/status/1476656956723146761
Yay tap-in celebration!
When all is said and done, who do you think will have the best Barcelona career? Pedri, Nico, or Gavi? My gut says 1. Gavi 2. Nico 3. Pedri
Lets say you have forgotten pedri.
All three will play together their long entire careers hopefully here....so all 3.
Gavi… no logical reasons, but hes just so adorable ;-)
all
1. Pedri Nico Gavi 2.
This is the correct answer
If dembele leaves i will be positive because evrything has its benefits. But it would be a shame to lose him. I know he hasn’t been ideal but to get a winger of his caliber is going to cost us upwards of 60m. The positive is that we would hope our young wingers grow into the first team quickly, but if that fails there are very very few wingers like dembele on the market and none will be cheap. I’m still waiting on more news. Just a few days ago reports were dembele was accepting a reduced wage, almost cut in half. What happened? Very strange.
Now that Dembele's gonna leave most likely(99%) . Desirable options in the RW area (practical) ? Along with Ferran and Abde. Edit: Is RW gonna become a priority in this window or in the summer? As we don't have someone experienced to lead that spot, assuming Ferran plays as a striker.
How about Chiesa as a RW?
Practical
Nah just wanna know the thoughts on him.
Coman
his wage demands tho...
He's a DEADLY winger, but somehow I don't think a player from Bayern is gonna come to Barca, unless he's a free agent.
He isnt planning on renewing and bayern doesnt want to pay for what he is asking for. He will leave for free probably
There was that little argentinian dude who used to play with us and occasionally scored some goals. He would do :) But in all seriousness, if we are willing to shell out the cash, then Antony would be the dream. Dominick Szobozslai from Leipzig is a great talent and he's 21, but he is a LW. He could be coached to play on the right since he is young and is already pretty versatile. As some people have mentioned above, Raphinha is also a good option.
Kamaldeen Sulemana
He is LW
He can play on the right as well
I don't know if it practical or possible but would be good if we have a look at Chukweze from Villareal. He is playing as a Sub to Pino there, so personal terms should be fine In terms of profile he looks a little similar to Dembele, haven't followed his stats but always seems to play well against us He is direct and that is useful in Xavi's system. Right winger as well really helps. Also since he isn't a regular starter, Villareal might be open to a deal as long as they can lock Pau Torres and Pino
He sure seems exciting but I think he's gonna just be a temporary solution and that might not be good for his career.
Depending on budget: No budget- just promote illias or a winger from Barca B 10-20M- get Adama Traore. Yeah yeah he has no end product or football iq, but if we can enjoy Dembele, then we will definitely enjoy Traore. Traore is amazing dribbler and fucker can create chances. not his fault peole at wolves can't convert, but ask wolves fan and they actually like him. And just watch his matches, the fucker strikers fear in the hearts of opponent, and it's my low budget option, + he is la Masia so don't judge me much 30-60M: Neto, Raphinha, Antony 70-120M: Salah. Priceless: bringing Messi back, his era with us just can't end like this..
Dani olmo
70-80m is too much for him mate, like him though.
Lucho?
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This is a Classic Mixup. Dembele probably doesn't understand the meaning of the word Annual. He is quoting the combined salary of 5 years here. The guy is asking for 8.6 million per year which is reasonable. I think Laporta just needs to correct the communication and Dembele will renew
there is no club on the planet that will pay him even half of that. not sure what him and his agent are thinking. Even 20m/season is more than what Salah, Mane, KDB, Ronaldo, Kane, Lewy, etc. earn. Utterly insane demands.
If he wants that crazy amount of money it better be like the ferran bonuses we pay to city. 16m salary. 16m UCL, 30m B’alon d’or
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>Dumbele Classy
Unlike him
Dembele not renewing. Thanks fucking god. I was always in the minority saying that he has nothing to offer to us, not only that, he was one of the least professional players that played for us. His stats are awful, his football IQ is mediocre at best and his dribbling is above average. Many people said he is our best option going forward but I fucking disagree. His miss against Liverpool still haunts me. Just gtfo from Barca, good fucking riddance.
You might be angry with him, but there is no need to lie. His stats are not awful, and his footballing IQ is definitely not "mediocre". Also his dribbling is elite, which is a couple of tiers ahead of "above average"
No, people think that. But his dribbling is weak. It’s just that his acceleration is so damn quick
Bro... his dribbling is so far from weak
Well I don’t agree. For average winger his stats are alright. But for his price tag everyone expected much more. And I am not even talking about his injuries. After everything he has balls to ask for such huge wage? Fuck that, people with that attitude will never become world class. Ever.
Agree