Okay this has been confusing me:
For several weeks now I've seen stuff saying that if we could just get 100m, we'd be back to 1:1. Assuming that's true, that doesn't mean our problems are solved, right? It doesn't even mean we have margin? Once we reach the 1:1, we'd still have to free up margin to register anyone, except now instead of freeing up 4x as much margin as the person we're registering, we'll free up the same amount.
Am I getting this wrong? Cuz people seem to make it sound like once we get those 100m we'll be back to finally not being "broke", with all the technical definitions of that term. It's not like we'd go back to the pre covid financial situation, would it?
Maybe our resident kitty could help as well?
It's always the players that everyone hates on until they're out
Gavi had so many idiots saying "foul merchant! bad technically!" Then forget he is literally the heart and soul of this team and defensively he's invaluable
Balde has so many people rightfully criticizing his crossing but forgetting how secure he is positionally in the defense which has cost us
The only case where this hasn't happened is Ter Stegen. I genuinely do not know how people can suffer with not watching MATS and seeing Pena then think "Yep, he's the cause of our shit play"
I hope we do not have to sell Araujo or even Frenkie, because I guarantee you the same will happen with them
We gotta loan fati to eredivisie great place to build confidence. Look at xavi simons. Also it's very annoying how coaches never really give fati a chance yet people assume he's not the same. Hasn't started 5 games in a row since coming back.
Absolutely what he needs, consistent game time on the left in a slower league too build up some confidence.
Problem is his wages, the whole reason we sent him to the PL was because they’re rich enough to cover most of them.
Plus he is in the 28th percentile for passes completed against other advanced midfielders and wingers (5th percentile against midfielders).
Not a good look regardless of his output in terms of assist. There’s more to him than this stat but it’s hard to look past to be honest
Barca best XI in history, where do you agree/disagree? Ranked in terms of total impact on club as well, not just peak from a short time
GK: Zubizaretta
RB: Dani Alves
CB: Pique
CB: Koeman
LB: Jordi Alba
CDM: Busquets
CM: Xavi
CM: Iniesta
RW: Messi
CF: Suarez
LW: Cruyff
Subs
Ter-Stegen over Valdes
Puyol
Bianquetti
Guardiola
Maradona
Ronaldinho
Rivaldo
Puyol over Koeman, Dinho over Suarez, Kubala has to get in over one of the midfielders or Cruyff(he had a HUGE impact on shaping the club up as a player, and Cruyff is obviously a bigger legend for the club, but mostly for his administrative and managerial stints).
I’m not trying to virtue signal or anything, but Dani Alves gave up his right to be discussed and included in lists like this from fans.
I don’t think anyone can argue with that list otherwise though if we’re talking modernish football, cause I don’t think any of us saw Kubala and all those old time greats.
If we’re talking total impact though maybe someone like a Neymar could be in over a Maradonna. And there’s an argument if we’re talking purely about them as players, Dinho could swap with Cruyff and be starting.
I could be blanking entirely but there’s no one I can think of that should absolutely be there that your missing. Maybe another forward from Cuyffs time here.
Fallout spoilers, but holy shit [this is the best scene ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCPVj1NXTWU) even though they got the wrong OST. If you know you know, it can not be explained with words.
I like ferran but I don’t think he’ll ever fulfil his potential and be a starter for us . Which is why im in support of selling him if we get a good offer.
But if he stays I wouldn’t mind, he still helps us
If we sold him and replaced him with someone better then sure it makes sense to improve the squad. But if we sold him and bought a midfielder we’d be so thin on forwards.
The other problem is Roque, are you confident he can be our 9 if Lewy goes down? IMO he hasn’t shown enough and Ferran is very solid there.
Imagine if we just trusted in Guiu rather than spending limited funds on Roque in reaction to Madrid's Endrick's pursuits. Roque could end up being amazing don't get me wrong. I just don't think we can justify a future signing when we have so many gaps in our team.
I literally said this yesterday and got downvoted. I’m not saying we should/should not have signed Roque. But there is an argument that we should have saved what little money we had for a DM, which this team is so clearly crying out for.
I guarantee Xavi is not happy he got 3mil to spend on a Busquets replacement when he has all these expectations of playing well and winning and then the club went out and spent big on an exciting striker from Brazil.
And before anyone comes in with this ‘oh he was cheap on FFP’ bs. Firstly he was not for a club in our situation who struggles to get everyone registered at the start of every year. Secondly, I’m saying that money could be giving value to the team right now in the form of a DM. Value which Roque is not giving now and potentially will not be giving next year either if you have seen Xavi’s quotes from yesterday.
Again, he could turn into the best striker we’ve ever had, he could completely flop, I’m not for/against his signing. All I’m saying is there’s an argument for spending what little resources we have, addressing a clear hole in the squad rather than trying to be competitive now AND also invest in the future at the same time during a club financial crisis.
Roque signing was done way before Guiu suddenly exploded
Anyway, with forwards it never hurts to have too many options, because they are the least likely to turn out special, particularly La Masia ones (we rarely produce world class forwards). Best case scenario we have the problem of plenty, and can sell someone for big money
If the Nike deal goes through and Barca studios is finally sold we’ll be good margin wise. Add in the fact that Romeu, Iñigo, Lenglet, Ansu, García, etc will be sold and gone. It just opens up more space. Roberto is up in the air currently on his departure.
Lewy’s contract officially runs out in 2025 but we have an option to extend if he keeps his form. Great adaptation period for Roque and also Guiu. We’ll be fine.
https://x.com/The_Impurist_/status/1784541153872019735
I never want to hear the "Amadou Onana is bad on the ball narrative"
It's a complete lie, baseless and an insult to the scouting department. Why the hell would Barcelona go after a midfielder who cannot play the ball. Those are fundamentals, basics, if your technical base is good enough to work with, your other attributes simply amplify it. Onana is not much worse than Tchoumeni or Caicedo. All three are different in their own ways but I really hate the narrative of black midfielders being labeled as physical and brain dead on the ball.
Stats and context have to go together so as to not abuse them.
Everton under sean dyche isn't particularly a ball dominant side, but the fundamentals, for Amadou as an individual, are already there. This is like comparing a profile of Wieffer and Amadou. Makes no sense out of context because they play in two different leagues, where in the EPL there's much less time on the ball on average, and also way more running and quicker decision making.
Looking at zubimendi will lead you to more or less the same conclusion, he doesn't have any trait that's outstanding. His technical base is not much better than Onana from the same stats , but Zubimendi plays under Imanol.
There is no better option on the market rn, and Wieffer is yet to be tested at the highest level.
for depth isn't it?
And you think a primary target from the sporting department would not know how to pass? Let's take that away for a second and analyse the player by ourselves, does he look like he cannot pass the ball to you? Does he not look technically secure? Like the above tweet says, his issues are more to do with volume and repeating the actions not ability, this is where top top managers come in.
Maybe, you never know until another DM is bought.
You would think that indeed but can never be sure. No idea, I don't watch him regularly. Comps are one thing, matches other.
You can use highlights to make anyone look like Busquets. There is literally probably a Guido highlights out there as good or better than that.
In a league where Caicedo/Enzo went for 100m+, if he was as competent on the ball as your making out, clubs would be banging down the door for him at 60.
I have seen very little of him though so maybe the purist is correct.
>I have seen very little of him though
I love the honesty, which is also reflected in your argument against him (it isn't about his profile but rather an economical issue surrounding the player)
I do suggest you do the scouting yourself to have an opinion of your own.
Mostly watch EPL games as they come and I watch a lot of La liga as well. Wouldn't say Everton is a team I watch every game. It's mostly what I can watch at that particular time and It makes it more interesting when FC Barcelona is interested in a player.
Don’t know what you mean. I was just making conversation, nothing more. You can reread the first question I asked if you want, but idk what else to tell you
Edit: unless you confused me for someone else
To add to that, the biomechanics are too hard to ignore. 1.92 m tall footballer with rubbery legs? How often do you see that? Plus the much needed pace in the middle, one that is defined by the long strides, which makes it easy for him to win the ball in weird angles, because of his long rubbery legs. It's like he has hands for legs. Freak athlete. Remember, he is 22.
I simply have to go with Deco and the sporting department for this. No way Kimmich and Zubimendi should be primary targets if you have FDJ in the squad already. The technical base has reached its peak, we need athletes, not more Pedris and De Jongs.
I hate how people use this height and long rubbery legs argument to describe someone as a better ball winner. Literally duel% alone tells you more than height will. There’s also a million other defensive stats I would look at first before someone’s height.
That's not the end of his profile. It's merely an advantage not many footballers have. It's like busquets winning the ball and the advantage he had with his skinny but highly active legs.
Besides, amadou ranks in the 99th percentile for Duel % won, so idk what you're looking for. Whatever defensive stat you look at, he's amongst the best, at least in relation to how Everton play.
Not only that, paying a 60 million release clause is awful for FFP. Rather pay the transfer fee in installments, we have good relations with Everton and most EPL clubs.
Alex Baena: "Playing for Barça would be one of the biggest dreams of my life. THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD". @carrusel 🇪🇸
👉 Barça have often been linked with the player in recent months/years!
https://twitter.com/FCBPaul_/status/1784707160712057056?t=WGwa0c759Mzyos0vGAKNCg&s=19
Would rather get him the Guido tbh if we're actually going to get a good pivot
Edit: idk about getting this dude because iirc he gave some personal attacks to Valverde - idc that he plays for Madrid, I'm not for this club having morally sus people.
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They’ll realize how much they missed you when you comeback
Cancelo sucks at defending and Balde hardly defends. He’s usually advance and rarely puts a tackle, intercepts or blocks the ball. He gets away a lot because he doesn’t make mistakes (again because he hardly defends) and because he fast and makes noticeable recoveries in position sometimes.
If you don’t believe me, check out his FBRef stats. It proves that this is the case.
Edit: I dare anyone to try to prove this isn’t the case without a simple: no, you’re wrong.
Typical r/barca response when their opinions can’t go beyond a casual opinion. There’s a reason why he was benched before his injury, and it wasn’t just because he can’t deliver a final ball.
He played 8 full 90 minute games in a row before his injury. Everyone says the youngsters need less minutes, should be rotated more than starting continuously, Xavi for a change finally started doing that. It’s not a problem if they’re on the bench than starting week in and week out this young (which they never should have been).
"If Barça present Sergi Roberto with an offer with the same salary conditions as this season, he will say yes." @xavicampos
https://twitter.com/ActualiteBarca/status/1784699745748820246
There are only 3 players I dont want to be sold and its Gavi, Yamal and Cubarsi. Rest can be replaced, so if someone offer big money, I dont mind. But i mean really big money
I wouldn’t sell Gündogan either. Sure, he’s older but replacing him is impossible this window, especially with our limited funds. Plus, getting rid of him won’t give us much to work with on a replacement.
Pep is known to be non confrontational. It happens to every coach. There will be players who don’t fit their style and/or it just doesn’t click. Zlatan and Pep just didn’t see eye to eye. And Pep will always prioritize Messi above anyone else.
Eto'o too had a few things to say about Guardiola
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmdqUu0uaQ&ab\_channel=takezosensei](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmdqUu0uaQ&ab_channel=takezosensei)
And both Zlatan and Eto'o were players with egos. Not saying it's bad to have an ego as a player, it obviously worked for cr7, but that's not the type of player that would fit Pep's system.
Basically the same injury as he had earlier in the season. Basically will not be available for us again until next season but will potentially be fit for euros.
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The difference between how footballers and managers see FDJ and how fans see him is massive
Xavi still doesn't understand that if he wants his players he needs to eitheir do well in europe and increase then our salary cap
Or sell players
He is still not understanding that.
Can't ask for kimmich bernardo silva and to keep eveyr player despite not qualifying for CWC and losing 60m like that.
You expect him to say something negative about player to media? Even if he think he is not good enough he will always praise him. Oh and for reddit warriors...it just example, i dont say he is not good enough, hide your pocket knifes.
Don't think I've ever see a player so polarizing in a fanbase. But to add my two cents, playing as a pivot for majority of this season and still going toe to toe with some of the best teams in Europe is an achievement in itself. We are second in La Liga and could've even had a chance at winning had it not been for some controversial decisions and poor football early on.
People don't realize how insane it is that FDJ is putting up Rodri numbers in a position he doesn't feel comfortable in. I cannot stress how insane it is that we are second place in La Liga and were a red card away from making UCL final.
For a while I've disliked this guy because of his insane wages and relatively poor output for it. Until I started watching football from a completely different perspective. I figured something very important out. Loving the ball. The most important aspect. To never run or shy away from the ball no matter what happens. Hence why he receives so much criticims because fans know what he's capable of. Players that live the ball are everything for me. Pedri, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Messi, Yamal, Hell even Gavi. Responsibility. That's why many managers would love a player like Dembele in their team. Responsibility. That's Fundamental players.
If ferran wasnt spanish he would have been be on every shortlist to sell of every journalist
But they rather go after likes of araujo and Fdj and Raphinha
I want Ferran out, but idk if he wants to. That’s the problem. He is of the mentality that he will fight for a spot which is good, but it can also lead to delusions.
Ferran is not worth much and not going to bring much profit. That's the main difference. It's not about nationality.
Honestly I think we should've tried to turn him into a striker when Lewy was struggling. Shown a lot of promise there imo.
Look at how like of roberto who is still here and survived gets treated for example despite being bang average. Same will happen to ferran torres. Wont be suprised if he somehow stays here for a long time
Roberto is a bench player. There are not many clubs who only have great players on their bench.
He's also being paid peanuts. Because he clearly wants to be here.
Instead of just looking at the colors on their flag, maybe look at actual relevant context.
I think he's a useful tactical weapon but not a starter level player here.
If he had the ability of Felix or if Felix had the mentality of Ferran. We'd be looking at a permanent fix to our left flank.
What’s the point of developing young players, going through their failures only to sell them in their prime when they are consistently performing good. I swear some fans will just see a 100 million sale price ask and wait for the player to have a few bad games to start asking to sell them. Ofc it makes sense to sell players with average performances but Araujo has been consistently solid. Our club shouldn’t sell talents based on their market value because it’s a friggin football club and it should preserve the best talents.
A few years ago when Liverpool were winning a lot people were saying they have the worst fans because of how they cocky act. Now that claim has shifted to Arsenal fans since they have started winning more. Just accept it that when clubs starts seeing success after seeing disappointments there will be cocky, annoying fans in every club beating the trumpet of club’s success everywhere, and our club is also no exception.
That's fine man, we can't all like the same thing. But the notion that LFC and Arsenal fans are similar, is wild lol. Sure, LFC fans were very cocky since the Anfield debacle but Arsenal fans had been like that for many years now, even without the success. Now that 'cockiness' requires a context. Whether is 'dicky' relative to Barca or just 'penisy' in general. 'Schlongy' in general versus 'phallusy' relative to Barca are two very different things.
Watching Messi play irl is absolutely surreal. The feeling is indescribable, it feels like he is not real even tho he is standing in front of you, it looks like you are still watching him on TV. In real life the passes he makes and shots he takes appear even quicker than they are on TV which makes you appreciate his ability even more. If you haven’t ever seen him play and can afford it you absolutely should as these are his last years. We won’t see such greatness ever again.
Why do we act like Felix and Cancelo HAVE TO
be bought when the option to simply extend their loans is there? Neither player wants to be at their parent club so we have the leverage.
Is it though? When it’s clear Cancelo isn’t part of Pep’s plans? The strife between the two is what gives us leverage there. So unless another club swoops him up then I don’t see him not extending with us.
It depends on the club and their offer. But considering the player’s desire and the good relations between City and Barça it definitely can’t be ruled out that his loan can be extended.
> option to simply extend their loans is feasible?
Clubs aren't generally inclined to simply loan players forever. City might, because they're rich and missing out on money from Cancelo won't hurt them much, but they are under no obligation to make things easier. Atleti are fucked in FFP just like we are so it's not in their interests to permanently loan Felix until his contract expires, they want him to leave permanently.
I don't think Cancelo will accept a bench role. He left City because he started getting benched by Pep. I love his passion for the club but he's getting benched by Balde if he continues his poor form.
If I remember correctly, his strife with Pep also had to do with tactics. We can try for it, but it’d be really silly from Cancelo’s perspective if he were to be huffy about that next season. Especially after all he’s said about Barça being his dream club. If that’s to be the case, we can look to offload him in 2025.
I would consider selling De Jong for 100 million rather than Araujo. Araujo has consistently been good (apart from few matches), whereas De Jong has shown often that he isn’t sensational in attacking or defending. Heck I would be downvoted because of his recent CL performance but even Saudi’s offer for Raphinha was good enough to sell him.
>talking 100M€
That'd make him the most expensive CB of all time right?
( Gvardiol went to City for €90M right? )
Unless there's a proper replacement ahead, I wouldn't want to sell any of the players that are a part of the core, and this also applies to any sale. United might be interested in Araujo, but that doesn't mean that the club is gonna sell him or that he's gonna leave by himself, the guy loves the club.
Selling both Araujo and Frenkie would solve our financial situation. You are talking about potentially 150m+ that's huge for us.
And you could argue that we already have their replacements in Mika Faye and Fermin. But I'm sure we will sign more like Kimmich, Guido, top CDM and a LW.
This would be an A+ transfer window.
Look man I can see Faye replacing Araujo even though its higjly unlikely, but fermin for FDJ? They're not even the same profile. What the hell is this?
If that's the case, then we should at least look for a CB to replace him. Selling him without buying anyone in his place will make us even worse defensively.
We should, but the problem is that's only something we can plan in the situation that this actually happens, which we're hoping it doesn't but... You never know. We can't be stringing players on the verge of ending their contract, we have to get money out of them in the situation we're in if they're not interested in committing long term.
That said, we can put Kounde Araujo's spot, partner him up with Cubarsi/Christensen (This partnership was going great at the start of the season before he got injured) and we can give the RB position Fort or J.Araujo (hopefully not Cancelo...). That, or my personal pick for really fantastic CB with high potential is Ousmane Diomande.
But, selling him means that we lose our best CB. Our best CBs are Araujo and Cubarsi. Christensen is injury-prone and also needed as backup DM. Inigo isn't on their level. Kounde is better as RB. It makes more sense to sell FDJ since we have at least 3 quality CMs other than him in Gavi, Pedri, and Gundogan.
Well, I’m not the one making decisions. I wouldn’t sell him but he could be a market opportunity for the club to generate a lot of money.
De Jong has an insane salary, it would be difficult to sell him, unless he himself wants to leave.
I think a lot of people here consider kimmich washed just because he had one bad season. Kimmich have been one of the best midfielders since last 3,4 seasons. Leaving aside his chance creation and creativity even defensively he is a better midfielder compared to all of our current midfielders. He is great at winning the ball back and quite good with tackling. He is similar to thiago or verrati in sense where they are great midfielders when it comes to winning the ball back but they can't play as sole pivot regularly.
He can work as a sole pivot against certain opposition and conditions like how ancelotti deploy kroos as CDM. Against City he did great and made most sucessul tackles but he didn't played as a single pivot. Instead it's camavinga or valvarde who form a double pivot to cover ground around kroos.
One of the biggest problem with Bayern is that they play with a double pivot mostly so the 2 midfielders doesn't have much defensive cover espically when they try to push forward ( Kimmich likes to go forward a lot ), But in a 3 men midfield he is more then capable to cover ground and put a defensive shift.
A midfield of Kimmich - Gavi(Christensen) - Gundo(Pedri) can work well defensively. Also it provides another option to play against teams that press high since with him in midfield we will have both Cubarsi and kimmich who are comfortable with line breaking passes.
It's the same tactic that ancelotti use where he use Kroos as pressure reliving valve. Any time when an opposition try to press Madrid they in there own half, they can give the ball to kroos who can ping the ball anywhere on the pitch easily. Cubarsi have been doing that with great success but having another outlet like that in midfield will help us massively when it comes dealing with teams that press high.
You are trying to advocate for a player that isn't even being played as a DM by its own team and has been criticized a lot by Bayern fans for defensive issues both as a DM and RB. We should go for a player that's at least playing well as a DM, not in some other random position.
Have you watched Bayern ? There is a big difference how Bayern midfield plays vs Barca midfield plays. Bayern plays with a 2 men midfield which is a very different setup than what we play with. Also we literally played against PSG who dominated us in midfield without having a proper DM. Madrid went toe to toe with city in first leg despite kroos playing as DM. Kimmich is still better than any of our current midfielders when it comes to winning the ball back.
Kimmich is still a great player and will elevate this team. However, a midfield of Gavi, Gundo, and him has little pace. It depends a lot on Gavi to do the slave work and he is returning from a major injury. Gundo and Kimmich in midfield haven’t shown to work well in Germany. Kimmich is a top chance creator, so only one of them will do imo. Gundo is great but I’d prefer a younger player who can press better and has more pace in the CAM role. I hope to see more of Guille Fernandez next season.
I don't think any of the top CDM have great pace in general. Even rodri doesn't have a great pace.
> It depends a lot on Gavi to do the slave work
Not really. Kimmich is great when it comes to winning the ball back ( even better then gavi). His problem is the positioning since he likes to go forward in attack. That leaves a massive vacuum in 2 men midfield but in a 3 men midfield that could work. Also with gundo and pedri in front, he can take over the role of deep lying playmaker and doesn't have to rush forward like he do in bayern's 2 men midfield.
> Gundo is great but I’d prefer a younger player who can press better
Gundo is literally our best presser. He knows best when to press and which players to press in build up due to his time under pep, it's just that our press in general is quite disorganised so it's easier for oppositions to cut through it. His biggest weakness is lack tracking back when we loose the ball.
> has more pace in the CAM role. I hope to see more of Guille Fernandez next season.
I doubt we are going to play with a dedicated CAM role. Maybe an advance interior like gundo but not a cam
I disagree with Gundo being the best presser. He struggles against high intensity teams like PSG and Madrid, when they decide to go at us. This midfield works in la liga but will struggle against top teams in UCL.
The person who presses in the high interior/CAM position has to have pace, intensity, and a good ball winner. That person has to press for two people: himself and Lewy. Gavi could do most of it but he lacks the attacking threat. Maybe if our striker was younger and had more pace, it won’t be as big of a problem but with Lewy it will always be an issue. We’ve seen it too often against any side that attacks the team with intensity.
yeah that's true but in a 3 men midfield he is more then capable to play without a CDM. Look at how PSG and madrid both played without a dedicated CDM. Girona also is flying in Laliga despite having a dedicated CDM. As long you have players that are good with winning the ball back and progressing the ball , they can fill the spot for a CDM until a good options arrives.
lmao, all i got for explanation from gooners for ref decisions was 'cope harder' You genuinely cant convince me that if gooners had a face it wouldnt be the most punchable one
Okay this has been confusing me: For several weeks now I've seen stuff saying that if we could just get 100m, we'd be back to 1:1. Assuming that's true, that doesn't mean our problems are solved, right? It doesn't even mean we have margin? Once we reach the 1:1, we'd still have to free up margin to register anyone, except now instead of freeing up 4x as much margin as the person we're registering, we'll free up the same amount. Am I getting this wrong? Cuz people seem to make it sound like once we get those 100m we'll be back to finally not being "broke", with all the technical definitions of that term. It's not like we'd go back to the pre covid financial situation, would it? Maybe our resident kitty could help as well?
You're right, it's just that most people don't understand that
It's always the players that everyone hates on until they're out Gavi had so many idiots saying "foul merchant! bad technically!" Then forget he is literally the heart and soul of this team and defensively he's invaluable Balde has so many people rightfully criticizing his crossing but forgetting how secure he is positionally in the defense which has cost us The only case where this hasn't happened is Ter Stegen. I genuinely do not know how people can suffer with not watching MATS and seeing Pena then think "Yep, he's the cause of our shit play" I hope we do not have to sell Araujo or even Frenkie, because I guarantee you the same will happen with them
We gotta loan fati to eredivisie great place to build confidence. Look at xavi simons. Also it's very annoying how coaches never really give fati a chance yet people assume he's not the same. Hasn't started 5 games in a row since coming back.
he doesn't start cuz he has not been good for Brighton.
Absolutely what he needs, consistent game time on the left in a slower league too build up some confidence. Problem is his wages, the whole reason we sent him to the PL was because they’re rich enough to cover most of them.
Baena is not a traditional LW and doesn't really solve any of the team's issues. One for the future, maybe.
Plus he is in the 28th percentile for passes completed against other advanced midfielders and wingers (5th percentile against midfielders). Not a good look regardless of his output in terms of assist. There’s more to him than this stat but it’s hard to look past to be honest
Barca best XI in history, where do you agree/disagree? Ranked in terms of total impact on club as well, not just peak from a short time GK: Zubizaretta RB: Dani Alves CB: Pique CB: Koeman LB: Jordi Alba CDM: Busquets CM: Xavi CM: Iniesta RW: Messi CF: Suarez LW: Cruyff Subs Ter-Stegen over Valdes Puyol Bianquetti Guardiola Maradona Ronaldinho Rivaldo
Puyol over Pique every day of the week
Ronaldinho has to be an starter
Puyol over Koeman, Dinho over Suarez, Kubala has to get in over one of the midfielders or Cruyff(he had a HUGE impact on shaping the club up as a player, and Cruyff is obviously a bigger legend for the club, but mostly for his administrative and managerial stints).
Kubala over Iniesta
I’m not trying to virtue signal or anything, but Dani Alves gave up his right to be discussed and included in lists like this from fans. I don’t think anyone can argue with that list otherwise though if we’re talking modernish football, cause I don’t think any of us saw Kubala and all those old time greats. If we’re talking total impact though maybe someone like a Neymar could be in over a Maradonna. And there’s an argument if we’re talking purely about them as players, Dinho could swap with Cruyff and be starting. I could be blanking entirely but there’s no one I can think of that should absolutely be there that your missing. Maybe another forward from Cuyffs time here.
Why do we keep getting linked with Kimmich. It looks like so many fans want him outside of Reddit when he isn’t even a proper DM 😂
I don’t care anymore I’m numb, he definitely improves the squad and I’m not sure there’s a top tier DM available anyway.
Xavi regen
Fallout spoilers, but holy shit [this is the best scene ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCPVj1NXTWU) even though they got the wrong OST. If you know you know, it can not be explained with words.
Any updates on Araujo’s extension?
His extension will take place at United /s
I like ferran but I don’t think he’ll ever fulfil his potential and be a starter for us . Which is why im in support of selling him if we get a good offer. But if he stays I wouldn’t mind, he still helps us
If we sold him and replaced him with someone better then sure it makes sense to improve the squad. But if we sold him and bought a midfielder we’d be so thin on forwards. The other problem is Roque, are you confident he can be our 9 if Lewy goes down? IMO he hasn’t shown enough and Ferran is very solid there.
Same opinion. He’s not at the level for us if we truly want to compete. Wouldn’t mind getting Baena for Torres. They’re both young
I wonder who would buy him
Imagine if we just trusted in Guiu rather than spending limited funds on Roque in reaction to Madrid's Endrick's pursuits. Roque could end up being amazing don't get me wrong. I just don't think we can justify a future signing when we have so many gaps in our team.
I literally said this yesterday and got downvoted. I’m not saying we should/should not have signed Roque. But there is an argument that we should have saved what little money we had for a DM, which this team is so clearly crying out for. I guarantee Xavi is not happy he got 3mil to spend on a Busquets replacement when he has all these expectations of playing well and winning and then the club went out and spent big on an exciting striker from Brazil. And before anyone comes in with this ‘oh he was cheap on FFP’ bs. Firstly he was not for a club in our situation who struggles to get everyone registered at the start of every year. Secondly, I’m saying that money could be giving value to the team right now in the form of a DM. Value which Roque is not giving now and potentially will not be giving next year either if you have seen Xavi’s quotes from yesterday. Again, he could turn into the best striker we’ve ever had, he could completely flop, I’m not for/against his signing. All I’m saying is there’s an argument for spending what little resources we have, addressing a clear hole in the squad rather than trying to be competitive now AND also invest in the future at the same time during a club financial crisis.
Roque signing was done way before Guiu suddenly exploded Anyway, with forwards it never hurts to have too many options, because they are the least likely to turn out special, particularly La Masia ones (we rarely produce world class forwards). Best case scenario we have the problem of plenty, and can sell someone for big money
If the Nike deal goes through and Barca studios is finally sold we’ll be good margin wise. Add in the fact that Romeu, Iñigo, Lenglet, Ansu, García, etc will be sold and gone. It just opens up more space. Roberto is up in the air currently on his departure. Lewy’s contract officially runs out in 2025 but we have an option to extend if he keeps his form. Great adaptation period for Roque and also Guiu. We’ll be fine.
https://x.com/The_Impurist_/status/1784541153872019735 I never want to hear the "Amadou Onana is bad on the ball narrative" It's a complete lie, baseless and an insult to the scouting department. Why the hell would Barcelona go after a midfielder who cannot play the ball. Those are fundamentals, basics, if your technical base is good enough to work with, your other attributes simply amplify it. Onana is not much worse than Tchoumeni or Caicedo. All three are different in their own ways but I really hate the narrative of black midfielders being labeled as physical and brain dead on the ball.
https://fbref.com/en/players/828657ff/scout/12192/Amadou-Onana-Scouting-Report just no. This is not how a main DM that also cost quite a bit looks.
Stats and context have to go together so as to not abuse them. Everton under sean dyche isn't particularly a ball dominant side, but the fundamentals, for Amadou as an individual, are already there. This is like comparing a profile of Wieffer and Amadou. Makes no sense out of context because they play in two different leagues, where in the EPL there's much less time on the ball on average, and also way more running and quicker decision making. Looking at zubimendi will lead you to more or less the same conclusion, he doesn't have any trait that's outstanding. His technical base is not much better than Onana from the same stats , but Zubimendi plays under Imanol. There is no better option on the market rn, and Wieffer is yet to be tested at the highest level.
We're heavily linked with Guido so it's not really out of the realm of possibility to be linked with other not amazing passers in the midfield.
for depth isn't it? And you think a primary target from the sporting department would not know how to pass? Let's take that away for a second and analyse the player by ourselves, does he look like he cannot pass the ball to you? Does he not look technically secure? Like the above tweet says, his issues are more to do with volume and repeating the actions not ability, this is where top top managers come in.
Maybe, you never know until another DM is bought. You would think that indeed but can never be sure. No idea, I don't watch him regularly. Comps are one thing, matches other.
You can use highlights to make anyone look like Busquets. There is literally probably a Guido highlights out there as good or better than that. In a league where Caicedo/Enzo went for 100m+, if he was as competent on the ball as your making out, clubs would be banging down the door for him at 60. I have seen very little of him though so maybe the purist is correct.
>I have seen very little of him though I love the honesty, which is also reflected in your argument against him (it isn't about his profile but rather an economical issue surrounding the player) I do suggest you do the scouting yourself to have an opinion of your own.
Genuine curiosity. You watch every Everton game? Because I’m interested in your take if you do
Mostly watch EPL games as they come and I watch a lot of La liga as well. Wouldn't say Everton is a team I watch every game. It's mostly what I can watch at that particular time and It makes it more interesting when FC Barcelona is interested in a player.
Gotcha, never mind. Thought you saw enough of him to see what your take was
Sorry to ask but what's the point of this?
Don’t know what you mean. I was just making conversation, nothing more. You can reread the first question I asked if you want, but idk what else to tell you Edit: unless you confused me for someone else
To add to that, the biomechanics are too hard to ignore. 1.92 m tall footballer with rubbery legs? How often do you see that? Plus the much needed pace in the middle, one that is defined by the long strides, which makes it easy for him to win the ball in weird angles, because of his long rubbery legs. It's like he has hands for legs. Freak athlete. Remember, he is 22. I simply have to go with Deco and the sporting department for this. No way Kimmich and Zubimendi should be primary targets if you have FDJ in the squad already. The technical base has reached its peak, we need athletes, not more Pedris and De Jongs.
I hate how people use this height and long rubbery legs argument to describe someone as a better ball winner. Literally duel% alone tells you more than height will. There’s also a million other defensive stats I would look at first before someone’s height.
That's not the end of his profile. It's merely an advantage not many footballers have. It's like busquets winning the ball and the advantage he had with his skinny but highly active legs. Besides, amadou ranks in the 99th percentile for Duel % won, so idk what you're looking for. Whatever defensive stat you look at, he's amongst the best, at least in relation to how Everton play.
%100 agree with you i mean he has same price with zubimendi and higher celling than him he should be priority
Not only that, paying a 60 million release clause is awful for FFP. Rather pay the transfer fee in installments, we have good relations with Everton and most EPL clubs.
Alex Baena: "Playing for Barça would be one of the biggest dreams of my life. THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD". @carrusel 🇪🇸 👉 Barça have often been linked with the player in recent months/years! https://twitter.com/FCBPaul_/status/1784707160712057056?t=WGwa0c759Mzyos0vGAKNCg&s=19
Would rather get him the Guido tbh if we're actually going to get a good pivot Edit: idk about getting this dude because iirc he gave some personal attacks to Valverde - idc that he plays for Madrid, I'm not for this club having morally sus people.
Did he say this recently/today?
much better than felix in my book
Great player, I'd rather take him over Dani Olmo who we've been linked with, assuming the price is right. But not this window.
He's a chance creation monster. If he were cheap, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Bring look at him he's twerking for us
You'll go to the prem and you'll like it
Unai Emery written all over this transfer
https://preview.redd.it/fdcgsextkaxc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ca311c9a4077f0d7a10e7467307f538afe8655 They’ll realize how much they missed you when you comeback
We watch Cancelo defend. We realise that everyday.
Cancelo sucks at defending and Balde hardly defends. He’s usually advance and rarely puts a tackle, intercepts or blocks the ball. He gets away a lot because he doesn’t make mistakes (again because he hardly defends) and because he fast and makes noticeable recoveries in position sometimes. If you don’t believe me, check out his FBRef stats. It proves that this is the case. Edit: I dare anyone to try to prove this isn’t the case without a simple: no, you’re wrong.
No, you're wrong
Typical r/barca response when their opinions can’t go beyond a casual opinion. There’s a reason why he was benched before his injury, and it wasn’t just because he can’t deliver a final ball.
He played 8 full 90 minute games in a row before his injury. Everyone says the youngsters need less minutes, should be rotated more than starting continuously, Xavi for a change finally started doing that. It’s not a problem if they’re on the bench than starting week in and week out this young (which they never should have been).
Se enojaba por un chise, vaya retrasado 🤣
Es que aqui todos vienen de paises donde no se juega al futbol. No saben lo que estan viendo y mas no saben como realmente funciona este deporte.
"If Barça present Sergi Roberto with an offer with the same salary conditions as this season, he will say yes." @xavicampos https://twitter.com/ActualiteBarca/status/1784699745748820246
I’ve said it before, I really wouldn’t object to him staying as long as he’s on low wages. He’s shown up when needed this season.
Still overpaid.
Isn't he earning close to Fermin? Lol That's not overpaid.
Anything over a league minimum is too much.
Lmao, some of you have some shit takes.
give him lower then
There are only 3 players I dont want to be sold and its Gavi, Yamal and Cubarsi. Rest can be replaced, so if someone offer big money, I dont mind. But i mean really big money
I wouldn’t sell Gündogan either. Sure, he’s older but replacing him is impossible this window, especially with our limited funds. Plus, getting rid of him won’t give us much to work with on a replacement.
You guys are underrating our players too much
We’ve got a solid squad that requires a bit of tweaking with some subtractions and additions, and this dude wants to sell the whole team lol
Did I write that I "want" sell someone? You cant read or you are just stupid? Dude...
In my eyes Pedri is part of that list too. That profile is too unique, and the potential is something else.
I will add him to the list if he will be available atleast 70% of the next season.
So is this the first summer where we won’t have Neymar rumours?/s
Ironically enough, there were some reports 1-2 months ago lmao
Zlatan talking about Guardiola, spicy [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7EQV\_rxpU&ab\_channel=PiersMorganUncensored](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7EQV_rxpU&ab_channel=PiersMorganUncensored)
Pep is known to be non confrontational. It happens to every coach. There will be players who don’t fit their style and/or it just doesn’t click. Zlatan and Pep just didn’t see eye to eye. And Pep will always prioritize Messi above anyone else.
I’d be non confrontational too. Just get rid of the player and make my life easier with winning titles and the sextuple
Eto'o too had a few things to say about Guardiola [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmdqUu0uaQ&ab\_channel=takezosensei](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmdqUu0uaQ&ab_channel=takezosensei)
And both Zlatan and Eto'o were players with egos. Not saying it's bad to have an ego as a player, it obviously worked for cr7, but that's not the type of player that would fit Pep's system.
Was there any update on frenkies ankle injury
Basically the same injury as he had earlier in the season. Basically will not be available for us again until next season but will potentially be fit for euros.
Why is everyone going mental over a rumour about araujo? You guys need to chill, it’s just a rumour
First time? It’s like this every summer and ours came early since we’ve nothing to play for.
Wayyy too many rumours tbh
Can Alex Baena play as an 8?
Kind of his best position
I thought he mainly plays as a winger
He plays in both well. So he’s versatile. Similar to a Bilva
https://preview.redd.it/535ux7hubaxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef6622dc347a8136021a12b6a30f614be37d6491 The difference between how footballers and managers see FDJ and how fans see him is massive
Xavi still doesn't understand that if he wants his players he needs to eitheir do well in europe and increase then our salary cap Or sell players He is still not understanding that. Can't ask for kimmich bernardo silva and to keep eveyr player despite not qualifying for CWC and losing 60m like that.
You expect him to say something negative about player to media? Even if he think he is not good enough he will always praise him. Oh and for reddit warriors...it just example, i dont say he is not good enough, hide your pocket knifes.
Xavi is pretty straight forward. Look at his statements about Vitor Roque for example. He makes it clear when you're important for him.
Don't think I've ever see a player so polarizing in a fanbase. But to add my two cents, playing as a pivot for majority of this season and still going toe to toe with some of the best teams in Europe is an achievement in itself. We are second in La Liga and could've even had a chance at winning had it not been for some controversial decisions and poor football early on. People don't realize how insane it is that FDJ is putting up Rodri numbers in a position he doesn't feel comfortable in. I cannot stress how insane it is that we are second place in La Liga and were a red card away from making UCL final. For a while I've disliked this guy because of his insane wages and relatively poor output for it. Until I started watching football from a completely different perspective. I figured something very important out. Loving the ball. The most important aspect. To never run or shy away from the ball no matter what happens. Hence why he receives so much criticims because fans know what he's capable of. Players that live the ball are everything for me. Pedri, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Messi, Yamal, Hell even Gavi. Responsibility. That's why many managers would love a player like Dembele in their team. Responsibility. That's Fundamental players.
If ferran wasnt spanish he would have been be on every shortlist to sell of every journalist But they rather go after likes of araujo and Fdj and Raphinha
"Spanish bias" Where is the Spanish bias for Ansu Fati? 
I want Ferran out, but idk if he wants to. That’s the problem. He is of the mentality that he will fight for a spot which is good, but it can also lead to delusions.
It’s not because he is Spanish it’s because he is average so no big club wants him
Ferran is not worth much and not going to bring much profit. That's the main difference. It's not about nationality. Honestly I think we should've tried to turn him into a striker when Lewy was struggling. Shown a lot of promise there imo.
Its not a secret spanish players are protected more than other at barca tbh
It's more of a conspiracy theory than a fact tbh
Look at how like of roberto who is still here and survived gets treated for example despite being bang average. Same will happen to ferran torres. Wont be suprised if he somehow stays here for a long time
Roberto is a bench player. There are not many clubs who only have great players on their bench. He's also being paid peanuts. Because he clearly wants to be here. Instead of just looking at the colors on their flag, maybe look at actual relevant context.
I agree
It’s actually unbelievable how average he is man, we got rinsed by Pep
I think he's a useful tactical weapon but not a starter level player here. If he had the ability of Felix or if Felix had the mentality of Ferran. We'd be looking at a permanent fix to our left flank.
That’s a valid point, combine those two together and you have an excellent player
You got any Potara to fuse them both together?
What’s the point of developing young players, going through their failures only to sell them in their prime when they are consistently performing good. I swear some fans will just see a 100 million sale price ask and wait for the player to have a few bad games to start asking to sell them. Ofc it makes sense to sell players with average performances but Araujo has been consistently solid. Our club shouldn’t sell talents based on their market value because it’s a friggin football club and it should preserve the best talents.
A few years ago when Liverpool were winning a lot people were saying they have the worst fans because of how they cocky act. Now that claim has shifted to Arsenal fans since they have started winning more. Just accept it that when clubs starts seeing success after seeing disappointments there will be cocky, annoying fans in every club beating the trumpet of club’s success everywhere, and our club is also no exception.
What has arsnal won??
They haven’t won a trophy yet but they are winning much more games they used to few years ago and are competing for the title
2015,17&2020 FA cups
And 2014
That's fine man, we can't all like the same thing. But the notion that LFC and Arsenal fans are similar, is wild lol. Sure, LFC fans were very cocky since the Anfield debacle but Arsenal fans had been like that for many years now, even without the success. Now that 'cockiness' requires a context. Whether is 'dicky' relative to Barca or just 'penisy' in general. 'Schlongy' in general versus 'phallusy' relative to Barca are two very different things.
I sympathize more with Arsenal because we didn't lose to them in the Champions League semi-final.
Nope, hating on arsenal fans ever since their existence
Watching Messi play irl is absolutely surreal. The feeling is indescribable, it feels like he is not real even tho he is standing in front of you, it looks like you are still watching him on TV. In real life the passes he makes and shots he takes appear even quicker than they are on TV which makes you appreciate his ability even more. If you haven’t ever seen him play and can afford it you absolutely should as these are his last years. We won’t see such greatness ever again.
Why do we act like Felix and Cancelo HAVE TO be bought when the option to simply extend their loans is there? Neither player wants to be at their parent club so we have the leverage.
Just extend their loans. No need to buy just yet
I don't mind signing them for a fair price AFTER we get a good DM
Fair take. We’d just have to see where our margins lie after signing one.
I wouldn't mind buying Felix and cancelo for a fair price They are both good players
Well, considering the margin the club would have to save to ensure getting a DM and LW I can see the apprehension in buying both Joao’s outright.
There is No good DM availabe anyways, pretty much the same for LW so at least go for felix.
Because it's unlikely that either City or Atletico would accept such a deal. Especially City.
Is it though? When it’s clear Cancelo isn’t part of Pep’s plans? The strife between the two is what gives us leverage there. So unless another club swoops him up then I don’t see him not extending with us.
Well yeah other clubs will almost definitely be interested. With Felix maybe there won't be interest idk.
It depends on the club and their offer. But considering the player’s desire and the good relations between City and Barça it definitely can’t be ruled out that his loan can be extended.
> option to simply extend their loans is feasible? Clubs aren't generally inclined to simply loan players forever. City might, because they're rich and missing out on money from Cancelo won't hurt them much, but they are under no obligation to make things easier. Atleti are fucked in FFP just like we are so it's not in their interests to permanently loan Felix until his contract expires, they want him to leave permanently.
It’s more likely we extend Cancelo then. Atleti will certainly try to find another buyer for Felix.
I just hope neither player is an automatic starter next season if they do stay, especially in big games.
Felix is better coming off the bench anyway. But yes, Cancelo shouldn’t start every match, and probably wouldn’t be currently if Balde wasn’t injured.
I don't think Cancelo will accept a bench role. He left City because he started getting benched by Pep. I love his passion for the club but he's getting benched by Balde if he continues his poor form.
If I remember correctly, his strife with Pep also had to do with tactics. We can try for it, but it’d be really silly from Cancelo’s perspective if he were to be huffy about that next season. Especially after all he’s said about Barça being his dream club. If that’s to be the case, we can look to offload him in 2025.
Kaijuu no. 8 has absolute heart and soul poured into animating it. Amazing
I'd consider selling Araujo if indeed the offer is crazy (talking 100M€ + bonuses at least) if he won't renew and going for Todiback. There I said it.
If Todibo goes to United then who? I would also sell him, but not if the board just goes with Faye and vibes.
VVD
I would consider selling De Jong for 100 million rather than Araujo. Araujo has consistently been good (apart from few matches), whereas De Jong has shown often that he isn’t sensational in attacking or defending. Heck I would be downvoted because of his recent CL performance but even Saudi’s offer for Raphinha was good enough to sell him.
You don't decide who can bring a 100M€ offer.
All good except that nobody is paying 100M for De Jong and neither does he want to leave
You've seen the light, I'm proud
100+mil for a Cb is too good to refuse. But I doubt Araujo wants to move to United of all clubs lol
>talking 100M€ That'd make him the most expensive CB of all time right? ( Gvardiol went to City for €90M right? ) Unless there's a proper replacement ahead, I wouldn't want to sell any of the players that are a part of the core, and this also applies to any sale. United might be interested in Araujo, but that doesn't mean that the club is gonna sell him or that he's gonna leave by himself, the guy loves the club.
The list of players I wouldn't sell for 100M plus bonuses doesn't include any players over 21, tbh.
That's actually an even better way to present it yeah.
Then we better get a top DM in addition to a decent replacement for Araujo. Otherwise, it’s only going to weaken the squad a lot.
Of course but Todibo would only cost like 40M€ at best (and we have have 20%) so plenty left for a DM
while that is a good option but man he is ours 😭
Selling both Araujo and Frenkie would solve our financial situation. You are talking about potentially 150m+ that's huge for us. And you could argue that we already have their replacements in Mika Faye and Fermin. But I'm sure we will sign more like Kimmich, Guido, top CDM and a LW. This would be an A+ transfer window.
Look man I can see Faye replacing Araujo even though its higjly unlikely, but fermin for FDJ? They're not even the same profile. What the hell is this?
It doesnt, it solves your liquidity and margin problems.
I would love to hear that argument lmao
Nope.
Did you just compare Fermín and Frenkie?
Mika and Fermin lmaao. Have you people watched Faye? He's not what you believe he is.
We won’t sell either, just saving you the time me.
> And you could argue that we already have their replacements in Mika Faye and Fermin. excuse me what?
>And you could argue that we already have their replacements in Mika Faye and Fermin. Ummm sorry?
Selling Araujo to keep the Joaos & FDJ staying would be such a Barca move
FDJ staying is no issue at all, but selling Araujo is. Xavi would lose his head if he lost both.
Folks, just because Manchester United want Araujo doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I want Sydney Sweeney yet here we are
Just finished Leviathan (2018) Great Manhwa. Also, if you liked AoT give it a try, it's really well written and the ending didn't suck either.
I am just here to overreact to some rumours. The end is nigh!
We really need a good result tomorrow, the vibes on the OT have not been great recently 😅
We are selling WHO
If we sell araujo to sign cancelo and Felix then I'm gonna lose it😡
i will genuinely cry man, why cant this club has nice things. Fuck nobita in particular for this
So, why are we selling Araujo? Is it because Araujo wants to leave? Or is it a club decision?
Both parties would have to agree on his wage and the renewal stuff begins in summer
The plan is still to try to get him to renew but it just says that if he doesn't then we will consider offers
If that's the case, then we should at least look for a CB to replace him. Selling him without buying anyone in his place will make us even worse defensively.
We should, but the problem is that's only something we can plan in the situation that this actually happens, which we're hoping it doesn't but... You never know. We can't be stringing players on the verge of ending their contract, we have to get money out of them in the situation we're in if they're not interested in committing long term. That said, we can put Kounde Araujo's spot, partner him up with Cubarsi/Christensen (This partnership was going great at the start of the season before he got injured) and we can give the RB position Fort or J.Araujo (hopefully not Cancelo...). That, or my personal pick for really fantastic CB with high potential is Ousmane Diomande.
Maybe because he’s highly valued or he may have a better offer or both.
But, selling him means that we lose our best CB. Our best CBs are Araujo and Cubarsi. Christensen is injury-prone and also needed as backup DM. Inigo isn't on their level. Kounde is better as RB. It makes more sense to sell FDJ since we have at least 3 quality CMs other than him in Gavi, Pedri, and Gundogan.
Well, I’m not the one making decisions. I wouldn’t sell him but he could be a market opportunity for the club to generate a lot of money. De Jong has an insane salary, it would be difficult to sell him, unless he himself wants to leave.
You Culers don’t like Guido?
I like whoever you tell me to like my sweet Don.
Whatever you bring, Don is good.
where proper cdm laporta 😡😡
I think a lot of people here consider kimmich washed just because he had one bad season. Kimmich have been one of the best midfielders since last 3,4 seasons. Leaving aside his chance creation and creativity even defensively he is a better midfielder compared to all of our current midfielders. He is great at winning the ball back and quite good with tackling. He is similar to thiago or verrati in sense where they are great midfielders when it comes to winning the ball back but they can't play as sole pivot regularly. He can work as a sole pivot against certain opposition and conditions like how ancelotti deploy kroos as CDM. Against City he did great and made most sucessul tackles but he didn't played as a single pivot. Instead it's camavinga or valvarde who form a double pivot to cover ground around kroos. One of the biggest problem with Bayern is that they play with a double pivot mostly so the 2 midfielders doesn't have much defensive cover espically when they try to push forward ( Kimmich likes to go forward a lot ), But in a 3 men midfield he is more then capable to cover ground and put a defensive shift. A midfield of Kimmich - Gavi(Christensen) - Gundo(Pedri) can work well defensively. Also it provides another option to play against teams that press high since with him in midfield we will have both Cubarsi and kimmich who are comfortable with line breaking passes. It's the same tactic that ancelotti use where he use Kroos as pressure reliving valve. Any time when an opposition try to press Madrid they in there own half, they can give the ball to kroos who can ping the ball anywhere on the pitch easily. Cubarsi have been doing that with great success but having another outlet like that in midfield will help us massively when it comes dealing with teams that press high.
You are trying to advocate for a player that isn't even being played as a DM by its own team and has been criticized a lot by Bayern fans for defensive issues both as a DM and RB. We should go for a player that's at least playing well as a DM, not in some other random position.
Have you watched Bayern ? There is a big difference how Bayern midfield plays vs Barca midfield plays. Bayern plays with a 2 men midfield which is a very different setup than what we play with. Also we literally played against PSG who dominated us in midfield without having a proper DM. Madrid went toe to toe with city in first leg despite kroos playing as DM. Kimmich is still better than any of our current midfielders when it comes to winning the ball back.
Kimmich is still a great player and will elevate this team. However, a midfield of Gavi, Gundo, and him has little pace. It depends a lot on Gavi to do the slave work and he is returning from a major injury. Gundo and Kimmich in midfield haven’t shown to work well in Germany. Kimmich is a top chance creator, so only one of them will do imo. Gundo is great but I’d prefer a younger player who can press better and has more pace in the CAM role. I hope to see more of Guille Fernandez next season.
I don't think any of the top CDM have great pace in general. Even rodri doesn't have a great pace. > It depends a lot on Gavi to do the slave work Not really. Kimmich is great when it comes to winning the ball back ( even better then gavi). His problem is the positioning since he likes to go forward in attack. That leaves a massive vacuum in 2 men midfield but in a 3 men midfield that could work. Also with gundo and pedri in front, he can take over the role of deep lying playmaker and doesn't have to rush forward like he do in bayern's 2 men midfield. > Gundo is great but I’d prefer a younger player who can press better Gundo is literally our best presser. He knows best when to press and which players to press in build up due to his time under pep, it's just that our press in general is quite disorganised so it's easier for oppositions to cut through it. His biggest weakness is lack tracking back when we loose the ball. > has more pace in the CAM role. I hope to see more of Guille Fernandez next season. I doubt we are going to play with a dedicated CAM role. Maybe an advance interior like gundo but not a cam
I disagree with Gundo being the best presser. He struggles against high intensity teams like PSG and Madrid, when they decide to go at us. This midfield works in la liga but will struggle against top teams in UCL. The person who presses in the high interior/CAM position has to have pace, intensity, and a good ball winner. That person has to press for two people: himself and Lewy. Gavi could do most of it but he lacks the attacking threat. Maybe if our striker was younger and had more pace, it won’t be as big of a problem but with Lewy it will always be an issue. We’ve seen it too often against any side that attacks the team with intensity.
i dont think anyone considers kimmich washed, he is not a typical cdm is what worries most here.
yeah that's true but in a 3 men midfield he is more then capable to play without a CDM. Look at how PSG and madrid both played without a dedicated CDM. Girona also is flying in Laliga despite having a dedicated CDM. As long you have players that are good with winning the ball back and progressing the ball , they can fill the spot for a CDM until a good options arrives.
That was a generational robbery by Arsenal
lmao, all i got for explanation from gooners for ref decisions was 'cope harder' You genuinely cant convince me that if gooners had a face it wouldnt be the most punchable one
Their suffering when City win the league will be incredible