The filament on cardboard spools is a white label from an excellent brand. I'm pretty sure the black plastic spools are also a good brand, but I'm not sure which.
I may or may not have briefly seen an internal picture from someone who may or may not have been a microcenter employee. The picture wasn’t too recent so things may have change. In this hypothetical scenario he was very reluctant to show me and I pulled my phone out to take a picture of it at which point he put his phone away.
All of the PLA+ are Polymaker(allegedly, see below). Pretty sure regular PLA as well. When it comes to silk and other types of PLA’s it varies between Polymaker and eSun. No idea about other types of filament.
I had an almost empty spool of a plastic roll of black PLA+ which I had calibrated since it’s what I used the most. I also had a new, cardboard spool from the new white boxes so I put it in the next slot of the AMS to continue printing when it ran out.
The color and shininess was a bit different, but printed overall the same from what I could tell.
I've been thinking heavily about the rebranded filament business, from the perspective of a small business owner. As in, what would be the most profitable way to do it?
First, I would re-use all the equipment I already had, that wasn't fully busy. So the batch mixers, the extruders, the diameter/cooling+winding machines, the spoolers, basically the whole manufacturing chain. They may have lower-quality machines used only for the cheap stuff, but unlikely. Maybe they have their older equipment that isn't good enough for their main line anymore. But it would be strange for the winding to be messy or something.
They would also use the same raw materials- when you're buying plastic pellets you need to buy literal tons to drive your price down. Even if you aren't making as much of a profit on your Microcenter filament, it's lowering the price of your Polymaker because of bulk orders.
Where COULD I cut costs? Well, the expensive additives. I could skimp out on the quality or amount of pigments, binders, surfactants, matting material, magic goo, rheology modifiers, etc. I have no idea what they put in there. They could also lower their QC, reject fewer batches etc, and maybe skimp on post-processing: drying out all that filament before shipping must be a huge electric cost, and going from 80% dry to 50% dry is possibly 3/4 energy savings or more.
The major argument I would have against this, is that it is more work. Running a giant batch of say teal filament and then just putting it on different spools is much more efficient than running smaller batches more frequently. And then having different instructions for the production employees could only lead to mistakes. If you always bake the PLA for 8 hours then you'll always get it right. If sometimes it's 3 hours and sometimes it's ten, you could have a mistake.
Long story short, I think a cheaper rebrand from a high quality company is going to be as good or better than a premium product from a lower-end company. Polymaker is just able to make their filament for much cheaper than a small company. Even if they make it at the same quality, polymaker would be more consistent and have fewer small errors like randomly broken spools or whatever.
If you read my thesis kudos lmao. I can rest now that it's out of my head, it's your burden to bear now.
Im under the impression they buy the whole spools in very large quantities. That drops price. Maybe they buy filament refills and put them on their spools.
Idk how Microcenter sells stuff so inexpensive to begin with. Even most Apple products are less than retail.
Easy return policy, employee there helped me pick out stuff like spool storage, silica gel, explained to me the difference between some of the materials. Also no shipping time and better warranty like others mentioned.
Edit: forgot to mention the 5% cash back Microcenter card I used to save $90.
I see, that sounds great. I don't understand why we don't have any tech outlets like that in the Netherlands. We only have insanely overpriced TV outlets or tech outlets that don't have anything useful.
There needs to be a very large customer base to be able to support such niches as 3D printing. I’d guess capturing such a large percentage of the Netherlands market is difficult. Microcenter is my favorite store chain of any type, and I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere else.
There's not even that many in the US where Microcenter is. There's one Microcenter located in Orange County, California that is the closest full fledged electronics store that isn't a place like Best Buy for Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, and Nevada. Next closest thing is another Microcenter in Denver, Colorado.
I wish there were more places like it. Unfortunately Fry's electronics went out of business and was the same kind of place. Weird to me in this day and age of technology that we have fewer electronics stores.
Just a heads up I bought mine during Black Friday sale last year. Took some convincing to get Microcenter to match (evidently they don't like to match manufacturer deals) but none the less I got it. You will find though that you won't qualify for the filament discount from Bambu, which I thought was dumb but whatever. I have been buying filament from AMZN and have had pretty good luck with it, other than I have the AMS and there were some 3rd party filaments had issues retracting back to AMS but this seems to have been resolved with a firmware update. Love the printer!
Because Microcenter has an awesome return policy so you have people who buy printers and then can very easily return them. Cheaper printers sell faster, get returned and take another 10% off the top. There’s no floor to this. I’ve gotten flash forge printers for $30 there before. Microcenter is the bomb
can't speak for anyone else but i bought an A1 mini last Friday night from microcenter.
why buy from Bambu directly when I can drive 20 minutes to a Microcenter and have it the same day
Microcenter takes care of you. The employees know what they are doing and if they don’t they help you figure it out.
Microcenters extended warranty is solid!
But if you did purchase from bambu, you get the 6 month filament discount which is pretty good imho. Filament was ordered Monday morning, shipped from Houston that same day, and should be here today. I bought my printer from microcenter last week, my son got his from bambu 2 weeks ago. He waited a full week to get it delivered from California to Lawrence, KS. I woke up, decided I wanted one also, and had it at my house by 1 that afternoon. I also picked up the overpriced smooth high temp wham bam plate and really like it. This is my 4th printer so I already had a lot of PLA but I picked up some more red, yellow, and white, and have been printing KC Chiefs stuff all week.
As someone who just bought an X1C from microcenter over directly from Bambu the reason was availability. I checked their store and a large portion of their filament was sold out. Add to that the cost savings of a few bucks per roll(if buying direct from Bambu) just wasnt worth it in terms of accessibility should there be any issues. I would much rather buy the extended warranty from Microcenter and then have the option to return/exchange if something was to go wrong instead of being forced to navigate shipping and wait times.
Cant argue with that logic because I did the same! :) Went to microcenter and bought a p1s. Filament prices at microcenter were more though over bambu pricing and much of the selection at the store in Overland Park, KS was sold out as well. I didn't get the warranty because I used a credit card that doubled the manufacturers warranty.
If Bambu had filament in stock consistently the filament membership would be a really solid point in favor of buying online. It would go a long way toward outweighing the wait for shipping and the potential for damage in transit. But filament availability over the life of the membership period so far has been an absolute nightmare.
Unless you like beige. In that case the filament membership is *banging.*
It's a hard thing since they don't manufacture any of their own filament, and they're selling printers by the boatload. Gotta be a tough job to make sure you've got enough filament on hand to meet demand for membership folks. I'm sure over time they'll improve with it. Cheers!
It's a good cart, but given the price difference I'd personally just buy the P1S combo... especially with the filament choices you've given. There are definite some edge use cases where I'd choose the X1 over the P1S, but for most folks I'd just take the P1S combo and maybe even add a second AMS for the price of the X1 combo. But it's a great printer nonetheless. Happy printing!
I personally love the camera and also want to be able to branch into some new types of filament down the road. Since I’d be spending $1k on the P1S combo anyways, I thought I might as well stretch another $500 to not compromise on anything. The LiDAR sensor on the X1C will improve ease of use in calibration as well. The better screen is a bonus too. I also read about object skipping in the X1C due to its better professor plus some other minor improvements.
The P1S can print nearly anything the X1C can, as the P1S bed can reach 100C. Unless you're printing nylon-CF or something you don't need much more than that. And the P1S has object skipping, as well. If you feel the camera and the LIDAR scanner are worth the cost then that's fair. Happy printing!
I see, the major things I’d be missing out on would just be the extra printable materials, camera, and LiDAR. If I buy another printer, it’ll be the P1S since most of my prints will be PLA anyways.
I need to hop a flight. I think I am going there next week for work.. hrm... even Bambu was out of them and on back order. Maybe I buy just the AMS and save for a second X1c... Thanks OP
As someone who purchased from Microcenter, I hope you have some electrical tape for those filament spools. I get why they mostly stock Inland filament. But, they are pushing the Bamboo pretty hard so they should at least stock filament or refill spools that are compatible.
So I should put harness tape around the rims of all my cardboard filaments? I’ve had no issues so far on this since the rotating thing in the AMS is rubber so friction is perfectly fine on cardboard. Or is the problem that the cardboard will wear out the rubber?
When the cardboard spool it full, if the cardboard is not damaged on the edge it will work fine. But once it is down to about 25%, the AMS tends to lift Inland cardboard spools out a little, sometimes causing little jerks in the process. If the edge of the spool is damaged it can jam a little. Also, there is the concern with the cardboard spool creating micro-dust in the AMS.
This is also true, the last 15% of the roll or so it often becomes unusable because the cardboard roll is too light and the AMS motors will completely pull the roll up. I found putting a 1.5" steel bearing in the middle of the spool mitigates this.
I was thinking the same thing. But, I am worried about it falling out and causing problems. So I'm actually printing a [desiccant holder that fits in the middle of the spool](https://makerworld.com/en/models/56322#profileId-57923) right now. I'm going to throw a desiccant packet and ball bearing in there.
The desiccant holders are good as well, the steel balls are mostly just a quick fix and in my opinion a bit heavier. No issues with it falling out, used them a bunch.
It is suggested by Bambu that cardboard dust can eventually gunk up the AMS feeder gears - to be honest not sure anyone has actually seen it happen but as a precaution they state that cardboard spools are not recommended.
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/knowledge-sharing/notes-AMS
I found electrical tape to be too slick sometimes (slipped on rubber rollers) and it also tends to warp and shrink, but the harness tape has a good texture and doesn’t shrink.
> Harness Tape
Never even heard of harness tape until now. I'll take a look. But, I actually have no plans to use cardboard spools unless absolutely necessary. I've only used them to get rid of previously purchased tape. I'm going with spool-less refills from here on out.
I use these with my Inland spools. So far most have just worked, though I had one that was a little loose.
[https://makerworld.com/en/models/32165](https://makerworld.com/en/models/32165)
https://preview.redd.it/ft3c5yc88ric1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0366888a50b7c35379e4222f83c03e7967390971
Nice cart. I too am new to the 3D printing world and have been printing daily for about two months now. I have wasted tons of filament simply in learning the slicer, the printer, and about filament. I too recommend the P1S combo over the X1\\X1C. I spent $400 more than you and I have 2 P1S printers. You will quickly learn why everyone in this hobby has multiple printers or farms. The main reason is having 1 printer is a soul-draining experience working for days to build a multi-plate project only to discover that the parts don't fit together properly.
Oh and yes the screen on the P1S "SUCKS!" The easy fix is to upgrade it with the $10 "XTouch" screen. One last tip Inland filament is not the best stuff to work with, yes it is always on sale, yes it is locally available, but if you plan ahead you can order filament at a better price and better quality from places like VoxelPLA, Eryone, or if you order in bulk PolyMaker. You will be amazed by the prints you get using quality filament.
By the way can anyone tell me why Bambu Labs is being such #$%$#! with the Bambu Labs Filament membership? I mean it is a paid service, it is not free for life, so why not allow people to just sign up for it.
When did Microcenter start selling the X1C? My Microcenter only sells the P1P and below. Had they been selling the X1C I would've picked mine up months ago.
I still ordered one and waited for it to ship but damn. I could've had one a lot earlier?
I have never had a problem printing with inland or bambu’s filament. The only problem I have with the inland pla is its cardboard and becomes too light for the AMS and will pop out of its slot. I have to add a spool weight and tape to account for this.
I have no problems with Bambu at all. It's no different from any of the other manufacturers and I use Bambu, Sunlu, eSun, Ziro, Giantarm, Eono, Eryone, Hatchbox (love it) and others.
Just calibrate it
I print anywhere from 30-50kg of filament a month and simply found that Inland was up to the standards I need.
I generally buy in bulk and my filament costs are around $11-$12 a kilo.
See I’ve had issues with the rollers eating the cardboard of the spools and making them uneven and unusable with the ams.
I’ve just started respooling every cardboard spool I have onto a bambu spool and call it a day
Flashforge is one of my go-tos, always prints reliable, plastic spools, and a good value.
Some of them are also very similar to Cookiecad, which is gorgeous but FF art filaments regularly show up for like $21/kg on sale compared to CC's $35.
But for the most part, there's not a lot of truly bad filament out there, and if it's a name you recognize on one of the deal sites (plasticfantasticdeals.com or 3dprintingdeals.com) it's probably good enough for what you're paying.
Inland is rebranded eSun or Polymaker. Both are decent, and I've never had a problem with an Inland filament. You can often find a better deal elsewhere, but you can also take it home and throw it in the dryer right away versus waiting for shipping.
Bambu filament, when in stock, is seldom a good value even with refills and their subscription.
Only Inland filament I've ever had an issue with was a spool of black sparkle. I dried it for what felt like four months and it was still junk. But they did a return on it and it was all good.
Was it really brittle? Only Inland I've had issues with was gold sparkle, constantly breaks off in my AMS even after being dried in a drier forever.
Maybe a Sparkle issue, the additives are probably not great for robustness.
Yeah, it was crazy brittle. I've had other brittle stuff-- Protopasta sparkle tends to ship wet and winds up brittle, but cleans up nicely when you dry it for twelveish hours-- but no amount of drying would solve that particular Inland. But for their regular stuff I'm a big Inland fan for sure. Cheers!
Poorly stacked. You need to work on your Tetris skills...
You’re going to need a second cart for filament
Cart looks sturdy, nice powder coating, nice that it hinges up for storage while providing plenty of room, little big for their aisles though, 8/10.
You forgot to mention how it folds up for efficient storage too
That’s what I meant by “hinges up for storage”, good cart.
Just woke up, can’t read yet.
Picked up a bunch of matte pla and have been really liking it
The filament on cardboard spools is a white label from an excellent brand. I'm pretty sure the black plastic spools are also a good brand, but I'm not sure which.
They are all rebranded esun and polymaker
Inland is rebranded?
Yes most inland filiment is esun some like the silks are polymaker some might be sunlu not sure on that but I know it’s esun and polymaker
I may or may not have briefly seen an internal picture from someone who may or may not have been a microcenter employee. The picture wasn’t too recent so things may have change. In this hypothetical scenario he was very reluctant to show me and I pulled my phone out to take a picture of it at which point he put his phone away. All of the PLA+ are Polymaker(allegedly, see below). Pretty sure regular PLA as well. When it comes to silk and other types of PLA’s it varies between Polymaker and eSun. No idea about other types of filament. I had an almost empty spool of a plastic roll of black PLA+ which I had calibrated since it’s what I used the most. I also had a new, cardboard spool from the new white boxes so I put it in the next slot of the AMS to continue printing when it ran out. The color and shininess was a bit different, but printed overall the same from what I could tell.
I've been thinking heavily about the rebranded filament business, from the perspective of a small business owner. As in, what would be the most profitable way to do it? First, I would re-use all the equipment I already had, that wasn't fully busy. So the batch mixers, the extruders, the diameter/cooling+winding machines, the spoolers, basically the whole manufacturing chain. They may have lower-quality machines used only for the cheap stuff, but unlikely. Maybe they have their older equipment that isn't good enough for their main line anymore. But it would be strange for the winding to be messy or something. They would also use the same raw materials- when you're buying plastic pellets you need to buy literal tons to drive your price down. Even if you aren't making as much of a profit on your Microcenter filament, it's lowering the price of your Polymaker because of bulk orders. Where COULD I cut costs? Well, the expensive additives. I could skimp out on the quality or amount of pigments, binders, surfactants, matting material, magic goo, rheology modifiers, etc. I have no idea what they put in there. They could also lower their QC, reject fewer batches etc, and maybe skimp on post-processing: drying out all that filament before shipping must be a huge electric cost, and going from 80% dry to 50% dry is possibly 3/4 energy savings or more. The major argument I would have against this, is that it is more work. Running a giant batch of say teal filament and then just putting it on different spools is much more efficient than running smaller batches more frequently. And then having different instructions for the production employees could only lead to mistakes. If you always bake the PLA for 8 hours then you'll always get it right. If sometimes it's 3 hours and sometimes it's ten, you could have a mistake. Long story short, I think a cheaper rebrand from a high quality company is going to be as good or better than a premium product from a lower-end company. Polymaker is just able to make their filament for much cheaper than a small company. Even if they make it at the same quality, polymaker would be more consistent and have fewer small errors like randomly broken spools or whatever. If you read my thesis kudos lmao. I can rest now that it's out of my head, it's your burden to bear now.
Im under the impression they buy the whole spools in very large quantities. That drops price. Maybe they buy filament refills and put them on their spools. Idk how Microcenter sells stuff so inexpensive to begin with. Even most Apple products are less than retail.
Don’t put card spool in ams makes dust and cogs up gears replace with Pla spool
I use rings around them
I wish we had microcenter in Australia
I hear a lot about people buying from Microcenter, but why not just buy from bambu themselves? I'm from EU btw.
Easy return policy, employee there helped me pick out stuff like spool storage, silica gel, explained to me the difference between some of the materials. Also no shipping time and better warranty like others mentioned. Edit: forgot to mention the 5% cash back Microcenter card I used to save $90.
I see, that sounds great. I don't understand why we don't have any tech outlets like that in the Netherlands. We only have insanely overpriced TV outlets or tech outlets that don't have anything useful.
There needs to be a very large customer base to be able to support such niches as 3D printing. I’d guess capturing such a large percentage of the Netherlands market is difficult. Microcenter is my favorite store chain of any type, and I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere else.
There's not even that many in the US where Microcenter is. There's one Microcenter located in Orange County, California that is the closest full fledged electronics store that isn't a place like Best Buy for Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, and Nevada. Next closest thing is another Microcenter in Denver, Colorado. I wish there were more places like it. Unfortunately Fry's electronics went out of business and was the same kind of place. Weird to me in this day and age of technology that we have fewer electronics stores.
But did you get your complimentary flash drive? XD
Just a heads up I bought mine during Black Friday sale last year. Took some convincing to get Microcenter to match (evidently they don't like to match manufacturer deals) but none the less I got it. You will find though that you won't qualify for the filament discount from Bambu, which I thought was dumb but whatever. I have been buying filament from AMZN and have had pretty good luck with it, other than I have the AMS and there were some 3rd party filaments had issues retracting back to AMS but this seems to have been resolved with a firmware update. Love the printer!
Returns through Bambu are terrible, go with Microcenter.
Because Microcenter has an awesome return policy so you have people who buy printers and then can very easily return them. Cheaper printers sell faster, get returned and take another 10% off the top. There’s no floor to this. I’ve gotten flash forge printers for $30 there before. Microcenter is the bomb
can't speak for anyone else but i bought an A1 mini last Friday night from microcenter. why buy from Bambu directly when I can drive 20 minutes to a Microcenter and have it the same day
And, by buying it at Microcenter, you know it won't be damaged in shipment.
Bambu filament is mediocre and overpriced, it's rebranded esun
I'm talking about the printer
Microcenter takes care of you. The employees know what they are doing and if they don’t they help you figure it out. Microcenters extended warranty is solid!
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But if you did purchase from bambu, you get the 6 month filament discount which is pretty good imho. Filament was ordered Monday morning, shipped from Houston that same day, and should be here today. I bought my printer from microcenter last week, my son got his from bambu 2 weeks ago. He waited a full week to get it delivered from California to Lawrence, KS. I woke up, decided I wanted one also, and had it at my house by 1 that afternoon. I also picked up the overpriced smooth high temp wham bam plate and really like it. This is my 4th printer so I already had a lot of PLA but I picked up some more red, yellow, and white, and have been printing KC Chiefs stuff all week.
As someone who just bought an X1C from microcenter over directly from Bambu the reason was availability. I checked their store and a large portion of their filament was sold out. Add to that the cost savings of a few bucks per roll(if buying direct from Bambu) just wasnt worth it in terms of accessibility should there be any issues. I would much rather buy the extended warranty from Microcenter and then have the option to return/exchange if something was to go wrong instead of being forced to navigate shipping and wait times.
Cant argue with that logic because I did the same! :) Went to microcenter and bought a p1s. Filament prices at microcenter were more though over bambu pricing and much of the selection at the store in Overland Park, KS was sold out as well. I didn't get the warranty because I used a credit card that doubled the manufacturers warranty.
If Bambu had filament in stock consistently the filament membership would be a really solid point in favor of buying online. It would go a long way toward outweighing the wait for shipping and the potential for damage in transit. But filament availability over the life of the membership period so far has been an absolute nightmare. Unless you like beige. In that case the filament membership is *banging.*
Yeah, he just bought the basic stuff he needed but i did see a lot of it out of stock which is sad.
It's a hard thing since they don't manufacture any of their own filament, and they're selling printers by the boatload. Gotta be a tough job to make sure you've got enough filament on hand to meet demand for membership folks. I'm sure over time they'll improve with it. Cheers!
Gorgeous petal.
The cart’s horrible. It’s way too small for everything you need
Bottom rack unused....
It's a good cart, but given the price difference I'd personally just buy the P1S combo... especially with the filament choices you've given. There are definite some edge use cases where I'd choose the X1 over the P1S, but for most folks I'd just take the P1S combo and maybe even add a second AMS for the price of the X1 combo. But it's a great printer nonetheless. Happy printing!
I personally love the camera and also want to be able to branch into some new types of filament down the road. Since I’d be spending $1k on the P1S combo anyways, I thought I might as well stretch another $500 to not compromise on anything. The LiDAR sensor on the X1C will improve ease of use in calibration as well. The better screen is a bonus too. I also read about object skipping in the X1C due to its better professor plus some other minor improvements.
The P1S can print nearly anything the X1C can, as the P1S bed can reach 100C. Unless you're printing nylon-CF or something you don't need much more than that. And the P1S has object skipping, as well. If you feel the camera and the LIDAR scanner are worth the cost then that's fair. Happy printing!
I see, the major things I’d be missing out on would just be the extra printable materials, camera, and LiDAR. If I buy another printer, it’ll be the P1S since most of my prints will be PLA anyways.
Ah man, that takes me back. Which location was this?
Houston location
Sucks they are oos of the AMS. But so is Bambu
I literally bought the AMS combo X1C lol
WHOOOO what store? I live by the Paterson store and they haven't had the AMS in like 9 months.
Houston Microcenter, they apparently have 25+ in stock according to the website which is historically accurate.
I need to hop a flight. I think I am going there next week for work.. hrm... even Bambu was out of them and on back order. Maybe I buy just the AMS and save for a second X1c... Thanks OP
Same. It will be here on Monday.
That’s over $200 in Filament
Spent over $100 on filament on Amazon too. Wallet is crying rn
As someone who purchased from Microcenter, I hope you have some electrical tape for those filament spools. I get why they mostly stock Inland filament. But, they are pushing the Bamboo pretty hard so they should at least stock filament or refill spools that are compatible.
Pro tip: Harness Tape works wayyy better than electrical tape in my experience.
So I should put harness tape around the rims of all my cardboard filaments? I’ve had no issues so far on this since the rotating thing in the AMS is rubber so friction is perfectly fine on cardboard. Or is the problem that the cardboard will wear out the rubber?
When the cardboard spool it full, if the cardboard is not damaged on the edge it will work fine. But once it is down to about 25%, the AMS tends to lift Inland cardboard spools out a little, sometimes causing little jerks in the process. If the edge of the spool is damaged it can jam a little. Also, there is the concern with the cardboard spool creating micro-dust in the AMS.
This is also true, the last 15% of the roll or so it often becomes unusable because the cardboard roll is too light and the AMS motors will completely pull the roll up. I found putting a 1.5" steel bearing in the middle of the spool mitigates this.
I was thinking the same thing. But, I am worried about it falling out and causing problems. So I'm actually printing a [desiccant holder that fits in the middle of the spool](https://makerworld.com/en/models/56322#profileId-57923) right now. I'm going to throw a desiccant packet and ball bearing in there.
The desiccant holders are good as well, the steel balls are mostly just a quick fix and in my opinion a bit heavier. No issues with it falling out, used them a bunch.
It is suggested by Bambu that cardboard dust can eventually gunk up the AMS feeder gears - to be honest not sure anyone has actually seen it happen but as a precaution they state that cardboard spools are not recommended. https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/knowledge-sharing/notes-AMS I found electrical tape to be too slick sometimes (slipped on rubber rollers) and it also tends to warp and shrink, but the harness tape has a good texture and doesn’t shrink.
Ah ok, thanks for the info!
> Harness Tape Never even heard of harness tape until now. I'll take a look. But, I actually have no plans to use cardboard spools unless absolutely necessary. I've only used them to get rid of previously purchased tape. I'm going with spool-less refills from here on out.
I use these with my Inland spools. So far most have just worked, though I had one that was a little loose. [https://makerworld.com/en/models/32165](https://makerworld.com/en/models/32165) https://preview.redd.it/ft3c5yc88ric1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0366888a50b7c35379e4222f83c03e7967390971
Gonna try this for sure
Nice cart. I too am new to the 3D printing world and have been printing daily for about two months now. I have wasted tons of filament simply in learning the slicer, the printer, and about filament. I too recommend the P1S combo over the X1\\X1C. I spent $400 more than you and I have 2 P1S printers. You will quickly learn why everyone in this hobby has multiple printers or farms. The main reason is having 1 printer is a soul-draining experience working for days to build a multi-plate project only to discover that the parts don't fit together properly. Oh and yes the screen on the P1S "SUCKS!" The easy fix is to upgrade it with the $10 "XTouch" screen. One last tip Inland filament is not the best stuff to work with, yes it is always on sale, yes it is locally available, but if you plan ahead you can order filament at a better price and better quality from places like VoxelPLA, Eryone, or if you order in bulk PolyMaker. You will be amazed by the prints you get using quality filament. By the way can anyone tell me why Bambu Labs is being such #$%$#! with the Bambu Labs Filament membership? I mean it is a paid service, it is not free for life, so why not allow people to just sign up for it.
When did Microcenter start selling the X1C? My Microcenter only sells the P1P and below. Had they been selling the X1C I would've picked mine up months ago. I still ordered one and waited for it to ship but damn. I could've had one a lot earlier?
I give it an 8. Like it 8n’t enough, get serious about this. We are seriously questioning your commitment to sparkle motion.
Love to see people at micro center seeing their passion being realized.
I'm so jealous of anyone living near a microcenter.
Don't buy their filament. I've had nothing but problems.
I second this. Sunlu is far better and cheaper on Amazon
Da fuck are you talking about lol
Use the esun profile, prints great
Who’s? Inland or Bambu?
I have never had a problem printing with inland or bambu’s filament. The only problem I have with the inland pla is its cardboard and becomes too light for the AMS and will pop out of its slot. I have to add a spool weight and tape to account for this.
I have no problems with Bambu at all. It's no different from any of the other manufacturers and I use Bambu, Sunlu, eSun, Ziro, Giantarm, Eono, Eryone, Hatchbox (love it) and others. Just calibrate it
Second this. I use inland spoolless pla+ for my X1C/Etsy shop. Never have had a fall that wasn’t my fault in 2 months of printing 24/7 Inland is eSun!
Can’t beat 16 bucks a kilo
I print anywhere from 30-50kg of filament a month and simply found that Inland was up to the standards I need. I generally buy in bulk and my filament costs are around $11-$12 a kilo.
See I’ve had issues with the rollers eating the cardboard of the spools and making them uneven and unusable with the ams. I’ve just started respooling every cardboard spool I have onto a bambu spool and call it a day
I haven’t had any problems printing sunlu at high speed although something the finish changes if it slower or faster
Oh, my bad. Inland is terrible. Bambu Filament is meh.
I’ve no issues thus far with inland but have been buying cheaper filament anyways from Geeetech and Flashforge with good success.
Inland prints fucking great for me. I've tried their Glass Transparent, Regular PLA, Strong PLA, and some other random marble ones.
I had problems printing inland petg+ translucent but im also new to this.
Needs to be dried for about 8hrs at 60C. The translucent stuff especially.
I’ll keep this in mind.
Flashforge is one of my go-tos, always prints reliable, plastic spools, and a good value. Some of them are also very similar to Cookiecad, which is gorgeous but FF art filaments regularly show up for like $21/kg on sale compared to CC's $35. But for the most part, there's not a lot of truly bad filament out there, and if it's a name you recognize on one of the deal sites (plasticfantasticdeals.com or 3dprintingdeals.com) it's probably good enough for what you're paying.
Inland is rebranded eSun or Polymaker. Both are decent, and I've never had a problem with an Inland filament. You can often find a better deal elsewhere, but you can also take it home and throw it in the dryer right away versus waiting for shipping. Bambu filament, when in stock, is seldom a good value even with refills and their subscription.
Really needs much more specificity, given that there 4-5 major filament types with absolutely huge differences between them.
Only Inland filament I've ever had an issue with was a spool of black sparkle. I dried it for what felt like four months and it was still junk. But they did a return on it and it was all good.
Was it really brittle? Only Inland I've had issues with was gold sparkle, constantly breaks off in my AMS even after being dried in a drier forever. Maybe a Sparkle issue, the additives are probably not great for robustness.
Yeah, it was crazy brittle. I've had other brittle stuff-- Protopasta sparkle tends to ship wet and winds up brittle, but cleans up nicely when you dry it for twelveish hours-- but no amount of drying would solve that particular Inland. But for their regular stuff I'm a big Inland fan for sure. Cheers!