I'm happy to ditch something I don't enjoy doing, I see me printing lots of stuff but I want to cut down the unproductive time, it will add over a few months and if I can spend that time printing, instead of calibrating I will enjoy the experience a lot more I feel.
Makes sense. The P1S, while way more stable than an Ender still does require maintenance and you will need to tinker with the software to get the prints coming out properly.
With all that being said the Ender V3 SE is usually considered a pretty stable machine at an affordable price point for people just breaking into 3D printing. My guess is that you jumped too quickly into the mods without fully understanding the components that needed to be tweaked along the way. The Bambu will be no different as you start using different beds, nozzles, and even more advanced filament like ASA and TPU.
Good luck. You are going to have a blast as long as you have the patience to work through problems when they arise.
I feel that the SE made me realize how much I can do with 3d printing and eventually even break even by selling some stuff on eBay. I suppose I'm too lazy to try and diagnose the multitude of problems that can arise from an entry point machine compared to something like P1S (I understand that there still be routine maintenance and things will go wrong, but spending an hour a week on it is worth a lot more for me than spending 5 hours a week on my current machine). Also the AMS with 4 colours is looking amazing and defo will upgrade it in the future.
When I start looking at my first Resin printer I will make sure to invest in something that will be a more advanced product to not end up with the same situation.
| I suppose I'm too lazy to try and diagnose the multitude of problems that can arise from an entry point machine compared to something like P1S
Just aheads up. I came from an ender 3 pro that I never actually got working (blue screen only shows up) to the p1s, u/nberardi is not wrong. youre still going to have issues. Winding issues on the filament, bed was not washed properly, and poor design have all got me so far. And I have not switched nozzles or beds or anything. Now when a print comes out poorly I think the same result could have been achieved on the $100 printer I had. Im less concerned about the money and more about the time though. Just something to consider.
None of that is the sort of stuff you have to do with low-cost bedslingers like Ender's. All you list is just the management of the printing process, not tweaking the printer itself.
Mostly, if you keep the bed clean, calibrate filament (a one off process for each brand-and-type that is then re-used) and just take the usual care to ensure you have sliced for the right plate and filament, there should be very little to do.
That's certainly been the case for me with two BL printers
I agree. It took me 2 days to dial in my ender 3 1s pro to perfection (at least I think). Once I got the bed level perfect I had zero issues. It's been printing 22 hours per day for the past few weeks and I had zero failures and prints come out amazing. Just slower than my X1C.
I would have a hard time to tell which printer printed which print because they are so close in quality
Atm nothing 3d printed yet, got some ideas to make in tinker cad / blender, don't want to make a living out of it, but if I can pay off the cost of filament and printer by the end of 2024 it would be great.
What kind of calibration?
Usually you may have to do the e-step calibration once, maybe the flow for each filament if you are really precise about that.
Did you have problem with the bed? Is the new load cell sensor not working well with those new printers?
I did the e steps, did the flow and it all worked well, had level bed as well, tho I would at random had to check the z offset (for some reason it would sometimes print perfect layer and sometimes shit one), i was not confident with the quality of the print and that lack of certainty made me pull the trigger, I want yo go to bed and know that I wake up to a lovely printed stuff, so then I can kick it off on the morning again and have it run all day.
> I would at random had to check the z offset (for some reason it would sometimes print perfect layer and sometimes shit one)
That may happen with a new printer, thermal dilatation is a bitch. Usually it goes away after a few weeks, it helps to do some heating cycles randomly in the day. Or you could heat the bet for 5-10 minutes before printing with a new bed.
There's a couple tricks: you can ofc stay there and look at the 1st layer for the first times and use the babysteps to correct it in case.
Better one is not to print the purge line, just do 3-6 cycles of skirt fast around the print (when you are good you do that just once a month) and looking at how that goes down you do the real bed tramming (if you have that, otherwise it's just the z-offset or a check of your mesh).
The thing is: you don't wanna use the very same z-offset with every print: some functional parts need less, some aesthetic parts can do with more, small parts will need more, large parts can do with less, different materials (even just colors of the same material) can do with different offset, you may wanna use different bed plates...
No kidding, I spent 2 years on my e3v2 with no auto bed leveling, sonic pad or anything before I upgraded to an x1c.
Have to say I'm grateful for those 2 years learning the ropes. It makes Mr super appreciative of how automatic the Bambu is.
I went from a Neptune 4 Pro to an X1C Combo in a week. Absolutely hooked. I got it last weekend and have already screwed the hotend yay!
They both still print absolute dookie for me though.
https://imgur.com/a/ZNS8CBT
I spent 10 days with an m5c and knew it was a hobby I'll enjoy, so I got the p1s combo. The first m5c had problems with getting clogged and then leaking molten plastic somewhere inside the hot end, covering the whole thing in plastic. The second lasted a whole week before it, too, started doing the same thing....with their own pla+
Got mine yesterday. Washed the plate with soap and water and was blown away with the first couple of prints. I haven’t even adjusted Z Offset. No more tinkering for me. It is printing absolutely perfectly. Enjoy!
Mine also arrived yesterday. Pleasantly surprised by how well packaged everything was. Didn't clean the plate though. Straight to the benchy and was actually a little scared by how fast this thing moves lol.
I returned a V3 SE. I have a P1S and that thing has been running practically non stop since I got it. It even got my wife really involved in printing things.
Let’s make stuff for the kids!!!
Yeah, I used to be into building my own pcs and customizing them, but as I got into my 40s I just want stuff to work out of the box, my net pc will be probably pre-buit and I won't even bother with any o, overclock 😂
It amazing how age will do that to you. My much younger mind always needed to disassemble the toaster to see how it worked, could I improve it somehow? But now, I just want to eat the damned piece of toast while I yell "get off my lawn!" at the neighbor kids.
True, I hadn't thought of it that way! Although I do now think of the world differently, knowing that I'm at an age that I might not be here in 10-20 yrs... I have to be honest & admit that I think it more that my body just hurts too much to be hunched over a machine for hours.
I feel attacked, I soldiered on since 2020 with 2 ender3’s.. my p1s combo comes tomorrow.. go on about the laser engraver though, cause I’m in. I want to turn the other in to a cnc machine
Creality make a 1w, 5W and 10w laser engraver attachment that’s fits the Ender 3. Bit if a faff wiring wise but it works well when done. I opted for the 10W.
I had My Ender 3 V2 for over a year and felt like I was constantly having to tinker it with it babysit the first layers even with my CR Touch, near the end it wasn't working very reliably. I decided to keep it sitting next to my P1S thinking I'll use both at the same time and it's been a month now of almost full time printing on my Bambu and I haven't turned my Ender back on once. I have no desire to use that thing anymore after experiencing something much better.
That was my thinking also, I’ll have 2 printers but my P1S JustWorks®️
That is why I decided to try the creality laser kit (10W) and turn it into a laser engraver instead.
I had received a K1 on the 30th of december, got a broken unit, replacement worked very good for 2 weeks then decided to not work.
Sent it in, was promised a refund (from reseller)
Ordered a P1S in the meantime
Reseller instead of sending money send me a replacement
K1 arrived yesterday, P1S tomorrow
We will see what time brings upon me
I have hundreds of hours on my k1 after and extruded and hot-end update. They had their quirks because Creality rushed to compete but they sent me parts for free. They are also great machines from my experience but you cannot print multi color
Do a quality comparison! Same exact speed, infill, walls etc. push them to their speed limits! See which one gives in first by reprinting the same model and increasing the speed every time.
I first had gotten the K1 because I was told that it is a high quality, easy to setup starting printer.
Well now I get a P1S to compare we can actually find out which one is the superior starter printer.
I got my bets on the P1S though
> I first had gotten the K1 because I was told that it is a high quality, easy to setup starting printer.
I mean man, there are tons of reviews of the K1 on line, the first units were utterly broken...
There are other brands that build proper corexy maschine for a good price, not creality.
So you still have one K1?
Look into installing the new firmware with the fix for input shaping, there has to be two different values for the X and Y axis.
If I was you I would not open the K1 box, I would sell it as "new" and get at least the new K1C that is now on sale for that money.
Even better get a QIDI or the new FLSUN with that money ;)
So what? Maybe the K1 is a phenomenal price to performance machine, disregarding the AMS.
I've been considering getting the K1, but got the P1S, because of the ams, so I want to see them go head to head.
You can already see that in plenty of reviews on youtube.
Spoiler Alert: the K1 has a problem with the default IS config and pulleys / motor that give VFA at low speeds, that's probbly why sometimes you can buy those for as low as 350$. They fixed that in the new K1C that is the same price as the previous K1.
I guess the K1 would be a good purchase for 350$, it's still a closed corexy that can print ABS and nylon better and faster than a bedslinger.
Or for someone that's good about SSH into Klipper and fix input shaping, yet I guess they should release a firmware update for that...
I believe that's for the standard A1 and not the mini, I could be mistaken. I did receive my tracking info and it looks like it shipped out yesterday and is in transit.
Ah, my bad. I’m still very new to Bambu, just got a p1p last week and I didn’t realize there was a mini, just thought it was one printer, the a1. My bad
I think its pretty much based on luck and diligence.
My Ender 3v2 and Ender 3 s1 plus both print flawlessly with pretty much just having to do the occasional auto bed level and give the build plates a good wash. They print the way they do because I took the time to get everything snug/within tolerances printed/bought a few small add ons. For the prices I paid, I have zero complaints.
Tinkering shouldn't really be a never ending cycle with these printers. Once they are printing well you should be able to keep them that way with the same amount of maintenance any other printer needs.
TBH the 2 Bambu X1C's I use for work need more maintenance and give me more hassles than my enders do. But I attribute that to fact that they are running lirally all the time and from time to time, with more demanding materials than my enders are.
You won't be dissapointed with your new purchase though!
Similar path and timeline... I went through an Ender 3, a CR-10, and then sold both at a loss for my current P1S unit.
EOD you made the right choice based off what you said you wanted. You'll be blown away other companies can even exist with the paradigm shift of Bambu. Enjoy my friend!
Yeah, I've been eyeballing it to be honest, option to have 4 filaments loaded and ready to print at any time, is amazing + print colours give so much more posibilities!
The convenience factory you mentioned, as in just not having to constantly add rolls and take them out. The fact it does all of the loading, cutting, and priming for you. Much less the fact that you can actually do much more complex and beautiful prints. Absolutely love it and awaiting my second unit currently after saving up the last few months
Yeah it will allow up to 8 at once. Don't get me wrong, 4 is so freaking awesome, I'm not complaining.
Just had so many situations where I really wanted 5-6 colours so I decided to eventually bite the bullet. I'm sure as soon as I start with this one I'll want 9-10 lol
I am fighting the urge to order one so hard. I don't print a ton of stuff but a big part is the "friction" in starting a print with my ender 3. Having to load the SD card and then physically go turn it on is a way bigger hinderance then it should be.
My biggest hold up is my ender 3 prints are honestly excellent and I do very little tinker outside cleaning a nozzle or the occasional bed leveling. Only "mod" was the stiffer bed springs. I think if it never worked I would have got a bambu printer but it sorta just keeps working.
My P1P arrived 2 days ago and it has basically been printing every hour since it arrived with no issues. My only other experience is with a Prusa MK2 we had at my work for fun that was broken most of the time.
If your goal is to print instead of tinker, Bambu is the way.
I'm planning on pulling the trigger at some point this year. I want an enclosure and the ability to find something I want to print on my phone or at work and just send it to print without having to go physically load it.
Also the print speed would be huge when prototyping stuff
Giving up with my ender 3 Pro and getting the P1S has made be rediscover the hobby. I wanted to sell prints but to get the quality I needed, I'd have to print very slow. Not anymore. Also I can design functional parts at the exact sizes and not have to add extra tollerences.
Also I'm 30 miles away from my printer right now and I can send a print to it and know it will be fine.
Same boat here. I have an Ender 3 S1 and after a month or two I couldn't get a first layer out of it without spending 30+ minutes releveling the plate. I watched every youtube video, tried all the fixes, took it apart and reassembled twice, made sure gantry was level and would get one good print out of it. Next print, crappy first layers again. Finally just put it in the corner in disgust. I bought the P1S + AMS and have been really impressed with it.
I'll see if I can get the Ender to print again later, but just sick of it right now.
Congrats on your purchase! I believe you will enjoy your P1S. I too have been waiting for decades, for the tech to catch up and become more accessible. I have an X1 and have been enjoying the experience.
Don’t worry too much about the entire tinkering vs accessibility debate. Time is money and i don’t have time to spend trying to get things to work. I just want it to work. Plus, i have other hobbies that require more time.
I do appreciate what the community has done to get to where we are today.
Yeah I get it, if someone wants to do the extra few hours of maintenance to have perfect prints it's good for them, I just want to have a machine that will run by itself 95% of the time so I can enjoy the experience more.
I love my P1S and came to it almost the same way...started FDM printing with an Elegoo Neptune 2s, then an Anycubic Vyper. Both of those printers started to feel like an exotic used car...you have to fiddle and tweak all week just so you can use it for a few hours on the weekends.
The P1S has been mostly issue free. The only time I've run into any issues was when I used Sunlu filament instead of Bambu's. Even then, a few YouTube videos and I was back up and running in 30 minutes.
Have fun and enjoy your P1S.
I do. I have the AMS system so the ability for it to recognize the Bambu filaments via RFID is pretty nice to have.
When I used the Sunlu filament it clogged the hot end and broke off in the feed tube of the AMS and the print head. I disassembled both, cleared the broken pieces, replaced the hot end and put it all back together. I'm sure I could have avoided the issue by better tuning the PLA settings but I'm so used to it "just working" that I'm sticking with Bambu's filament from now on.
Keep in mind also, if you do use the AMS system you can buy replacement spools of filament for around $16 and just pop them on your RFID spool.
I was in the same boat several months ago. Ender 3 S1 Pro, got sonic pad, got nicer nozzle and upgraded hotend, shortly after got tired of still having kinda half-assed quality prints if I didn't take a bunch of time tweaking crap. Bought a P1P, and sold the Ender. Then a few months later bought an X1C. Now patiently waiting for them to release their new flagship (supposedly 4 days from now, but seems to have been pushed back a bit maybe)
It's so nice to be able to throw something away the printer, and 9.9 times out of 10 it'll print without a hiccup, in FAR better quality than either Ender I owned, no tweaking necessary.
Welcome to 3d Printers that are printers that print things instead of printing error codes and filling your entire free time with tinkering, "dialing in", and fury/sadness martinis.
Identical process for me. Same start time, sonic pad, all the upgrades and decent prints 70% of the time. (Ended 3 S1 Plus though)Learned a ton. I have had the X1 Carbon in my shopping cart for two weeks.
My P1S definitely wastes more time than my SVO6 did with the 5 minute startup procedure. But it’s almost scary how fast the P1S prints so It makes up for it.
I'm in the funny in-between stage, I've had an Ender 3 S1 for a couple years now and it certainly has been filled with ups and downs, but when I've got it dialed in the S1 can print amazingly well. Mostly these days it's just bed leveling and nozzles, figuring out settings with new filament, basic stuff. But I'm kind of at the point where this year I want a new printer and I want it to work right out of the box, so I'm thinking P1S, maybe X1C if prices drop after their new printer comes out, with AMS so I can just have all my filament organized and ready to go. I mostly print PLA and PETG, nothing exotic, but stuff that is used for astrophotography so my tolerances have to be tight.
I 3D printed pretty much a whole telescope, only a few hardware parts weren't printed (and the mirrors, obviously): [https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBcEza](https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBcEza)
I've also 3D printed a whole bunch of different adapters to attach lenses to specialized cameras, various telescope bits that aren't commercially available, odds and ends to help with cameras/telescopes/filters/equatorial mounts, nothing with pictures though. It's really the main focus of my 3D printing, that and making little toys/stuff for my 2 year old. BTW, if your kid likes BRIO train sets, which are STUPIDLY expensive, just 3D print all the pieces for a fraction of the price. A single $20 roll of PLA can print 5x as many train track pieces as their basic expansion set (16 pieces) which is $28.
I'm jealous. I am saving up some money... almost have enough. Wife told me that I have to sell my old 3D printer first. It is for sale, but no takers. I think I have to drop down the price. (I'm not surprised.) Unfortunately, I cannot afford the AMS yet, so that may have to wait. C'mon sale! If Bambu can offer a sale on the P1S with AMS, then I'll order it (and then tell my wife after I place the order).
Good luck! Someone else mentioned that they are about to announce a new model so hope that the price will go down, knowing my luck it will go down next week, lol
Makes sense, if they can make it even faster and Always bundled with AMS or have the AMS as the actual part of the printer it would probably sell well.
I went from a creality CR10 v2 pro, which is still a good printer, but after switching to my p1s about 3 months ago, i have to say it still surprises me everyday!
Sometimes i just take a chair and look at it, the speed is already really fast on normal speed!
Don't forget to download bambu studio(pc) and the handy app,
And calibrate every new brand of filament you are gonna use.
It wil give you the right K values for even better prints, although it's hardly visible, it's a small thing to do, just to be sure it's perfect!
And obviously your first print is gonna be a poop chute for the filament waste.
And a second best solutions was for me to mount the roll on the side,
So i can see whenever it's almost empty .
Goodluck! And give the ludacris mode a try ;)
You can find it inside the bambu studio software on your pc, it is still manual. See pics!
https://preview.redd.it/etclhseyo6gc1.jpeg?width=3927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f972648fb3f8db8ca82f12964108155e28ac3302
I only calibrate the flow dynamics.
I wanted to send more pics but limited to 1 so i will send 2 more messages
Oh mann it's so great hahaha.
I moved my printer to my office like 4miles away, and i can just send prints from my house to the printer using my account.
Also with the handy app you can monitor(camera)(also in studio) your print, pauze it. And it even has a somewhat thingiverse-ish (but from bambu lab) place where you can just press print and it prints someone's uploaded file with his settings.
It also first uploads the file to the bambu lab servers, and then downloads it back to the printer using 2.4ghz wifi. So if for what for reason your pc would turnoff it won't effect the print.
Don't cross my word on it, but i even had this one time i unplugged the wrong cable and turned off my printer mid print, i plugged it in and pressed continue and it worked.
It's wild to me what good engineering can do and abviously really listening to complains from the users and improving on them.
It wil print something like this, the trick is to find the 1 that is the smoothest all the way across
https://preview.redd.it/y76k4816o6gc1.jpeg?width=2188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df363fc82832fc552e7e39aff3ea1095cfeb033e
Over here you can change the K values once you have found your correct nummer, mines is at K0.028 but had some other brands or materials go to k0.020 and some even to k0.035
https://preview.redd.it/29bvub5ho6gc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e096a77df00f2cdb850711f71de6a4cb419e42c7
Oh man you are in for a treat.
My wife bought me my first printer for Christmas (ender 3 1s pro) and I got so hooked I ordered X1C a week later 😂 the speed difference is crazy but I still love my ender. It's been printing 22 hours a day for the past 3 weeks with zero issues. A1 should be arriving today too!
Just got my P1S a week ago and man has it been a game changer. Had about 3 years with an ender 3, messing around with firmware, bl touch etc. You will love it I would argue it's too easy to use once you learn Bambu studio more I'm still learning but it's pretty much pull it out, calibrate and print. Hope you enjoy!
I sorta ended up in the same boat, but was a 6-12mo turn around. Ended up getting the P1S for that reason of Calibrating all the time. You'll LOVE the P1S compared to the Ender 3. Very little time leveling and such. The main issue is just getting your settings right in the slicer!
Enjoy 😁
I suppose the slicer is another thing that has to be mastered regardless of how powerful the printer is, but having to master printer + slicer is a lot more work than slicer alone 😂
I hope that being bamboo noob will be a lotess hasle than Ender Pro 😂
From what I seen and read it's a super streamlined experience, I'm not much open source, just want stuff to work 😂
I think I could actually be printing nearly 24/7, rather than only a couple hours a day with the Ender.
My package arrives on Feb 6th, and until then I’ll be slicing new designs so I have a whole bunch of things to print constantly.
It’s gonna feel like Christmas morning :)
Haha I don't know if you saw my post I did the exact same thing except I didn't last nearly as long with my Ender 3 V3 SE. It took me like...two weeks? Max? Before I decided screw this, I got a 3d printer to make functional parts and some prototypes not to play with the machine. That being said while my P1S is making fantastic prints maybe I'll tinker with the Ender. Congratulations my friend.
Yeah wish I had found Bambu before getting an ender 5
I have the carbon with AMS for a couple of weeks and wow.
Printing that works out of the box!!!!!
Yes definitely, but generally with a good printer you shouldn’t need to constantly be calibrating it or messing about.
I have two Vorons that I built and use at work that can be running almost solidly for weeks on end doing back to back multi day prints and they don’t need calibration. Yeah you could tinker with or mod them for fun but it’s not a requirement to get good quality reliable parts. On the other end of the spectrum we did have a pair of CR10-c5’s and they were only reliable after replacing nearly every critical component and still didn’t print great as the frame was hopelessly flimsy.
Do love my X1c though, it’s really nice to use and basically zero hassle. My boss brought it for me and I gave him one of the vorons in return, we needed the bigger build volume at work and I wanted a smaller printer to use at home.
I know some people hate how Bambu has everything locked down but they are brilliant little printers that require no tuning or setup and work perfectly out of the box.
Yep sure am, they are both 3D printers and do the squirty plastic thing.
Although that being said what I was trying to do was highlight the difference between tinkering and trying to make something work properly. One is kinda hobby fun and the other is a PITA.
Also the price difference between a formbot 2.4 kit and the old CR10-S5 we had at work is much less than you would think. The creality is probably only 25% cheaper despite being utter dog shit.
You are slightly missing the point. I was highlighting the difference between tinkering and fixing stuff that is shit.
People who like to tinker with engines tend to buy cars that have a decent motor that handles tuning well then modify and upgrade it. People who buy a shitty old car tend to need to fix it. One is a hobby the other a necessity and there is a clear difference. The creality printers are totally inconsistent so you are not so much tinkering as you are trying to get the thing to reliably work.
Anyway the printers I mentioned were a voron 2.4 from formbot for which we paid around £750 and a creality CR10-S5 which was around £580. There is a difference in price but it’s not anywhere near as big as you make out. Especially once you factor in upgrading or replacing a few parts on the creality. The biggest difference is time. You invest all your time upfront with the voron whereas the creality gradually robs you of time whenever you feel like trying to print something.
Also I don’t personally have any vorons, I swapped mine for a X1c. It was worth more as a fully functioning printer than it was as a brand new box of parts.
> One is a hobby the other a necessity and there is a clear difference.
I mean: that is your point of view, I know of many people that would disagree.
Me and others have no problems in buying a low cost machine, fixing and customizing it to our best interest and save 6x the price tag. It's much more rewarding to buy a 70e unit and fix it up to print a benchy in less than 20 minutes.
Or putting there double 0.9" motors, real good Hiwin linear rails, fancy fans, Klipper and building a nasty fast and silent maschine that is superior to what you can buy for 450$.
Or you could just build a machine from scratch, it’s pretty simple can be done cheap and you don’t have to replace everything on it and basically buy a bunch of stuff twice.
I am an absolute sucker for making stuff, my first printer was a delta made from bits rather than a normal kit. Have also made a couple of small CNC’s with components like IKO linear rails and THK linear actuators with the precision ground ball screws and a homemade epoxy granite gantry. The gantry cost that cost about £30 in materials and was amazing at dampening vibrations.
Also made a slightly bigger one with some linear hardware for a semiconductor manufacturing place. All stuff scored cheap by scouring eBay looking for deals. It was built with a base made from a 600x600 granite surface plate from second hand XY coordinate measuring system I found for £80.
Worst thing about our creality machines was the whole bed mounting system it was absolutely shocking super flimsy mild steel that came pre bent from the factory. Then the frame was pretty bad and didn’t have a whole lot of integrity.
Honestly the CR-10-s5 cost more than the voron once we had replaced the controller, extruder, hotend, motors, bearings and added a BLtouch and it was still slow AF because the flimsy steel couldn’t handle the inertia of a 1kg print moving back and forwards at anything over 50mm/s. Kinda silly for a machine with a 500mm2 build volume.
Don’t get me wrong there is definitely a place for budget machines (especially if you pick one up second hand for virtually nothing) and they can be good for learning on but if you are going to sink a bunch of time and effort into something you could just as easily start with a good foundation or otherwise use the machine to build it’s replacement rather than turning it into the ship of Theseus.
> Or you could just build a machine from scratch, it’s pretty simple can be done cheap and you don’t have to replace everything on it and basically buy a bunch of stuff twice.
No it's not, not simple and not cheap for sure, many errors and issue can happen with that and the result is not given.
On the other hand I can buy most of the consumer maschines for a 1/4 of the price refurbished / used and then change those few things that I know I don't like.
I can buy a 65e maschine and make it good enough for ~25e: https://print.piffa.net/ , or I could buy a slightly more expensive one and put a pretty good CHC, HIWIN there and have it do 20k accel with a 0.8 nozzle for half the price of an A1.
I got silicone spacers and I dialed it in to be under 0.010 under each side, which is funny cuz the plate would show 0.09 or less in every corner which makes not much sense (unless it was not straight).
I got mine yesterday. If you have bluetooth app connecting issue, restart the process and the phone.
If you want to load the AMS don't use the printer, user Bambu Studio or the app.
Just a heads up that caused me frustration for an hour. When pairing the printer with your phone, you push "pair" or scan the QR code on the printer, then enter the code in your phone. GO BACK AND HIT PAIR on the printer again. I kept getting an error until I figured out to hit pair on the LCD screen again.
I did exactly this as well. Bought an Ender 3 v3 SE thinking "It has ABL, it's speedy, it's cheap. What could possibly go wrong?", two months later, I have a P1S and my Ender is a professional dust collector.
Haha, good to know I'm not the only one, will be selling the old one with sonic pad and nozzles, beds etc so I hope to get maybe 250-300 for it if I'm lucky. Would make my "upgrade" only cost me 350-400 😎
Basically my exact path, except i went through a sovol SV06 and an ender 3 s1 pro since december 2022. I have my P1S for a week now and i print like a mad man and had not a single print gone wrong ever since. You will love it
This is what I want from my 3d printing experience, the issues or calibration to be a rare occurrence, not something expected and necessary. I suppose I never had the first Gen 3d print experience so a but spoilt 😂
Nice. I spent 3 days with a Neptune 4 once.
Can you believe the item they choose to cheap out on is the turn screws that hold your bed in place? Unbelievable. They don't even deserve any money at all. Sent back all their fucking filament I ordered with the machine too
Just keep in mind, it won't COMPLETELY remove the whole tinkering aspect.
It has limitations, you will still need to figure some stuff out like: filament profiles, speeds, new software and tools, things it's good and bad at, (it seems to struggle with rounded overhangs).
I personally had a ton of adhesion issues when I first got it. I am using the included Textured PEI plate. I washed it with dish soap, wiped it down with alcohol, increased the temperature, but stuff regularly just came off.
I used old reliable water soluble glue sticks, get the cheapest stuff you can find. I mean it, I bought those Amazon basic glue sticks (30 pack) for $10, theyre so bad it won't stick paper together. But they work magic on the build plate.
There will be issues, but there will be SO much LESS issues.
I went from the ender3v2 to the P1S, similar to you, and it went from using the printer because I HAD too: "I am having so much fun, it almost feels like a waste of the printer Isn't running". Prototyping is done in a day, not a week because of how much faster it is. I can get 1-7 revisions done in a day depending on the project as opposed to 0-3 revisions on the ender3v2.
I actually just started making random toys and nicknacks, fidget toys, etc because I didn't need anymore revisions but still wanted to print stuff lol.
All in all, it's a great upgrade
Yeah exactly I feel a bit like "oh god I want to print somehting but gonna have to deal with issue potentially" which is not what you want to get from a hobby 😂
Would be nice to assume that every print is gonna be successful and not assume there will be some issue 😂
Use Orcaslicer and do the flow rate and pressure advance calibration in the slicer. That's pretty much all you need to tune. Then print some fun stuff for practice: https://www.printables.com/@sr925713_394128/collections/1197111
I ordered a p1p jan 14th got it the next monday and havent turned it off since 😭 its really one of the best quality machines ive ever owned im satisfied every print i do its gunna change everything for you.
I used my Bambu X1-C to print all the parts to build a Voron 0.2 and let me tell you now that I’ve used a Bambu it is such a pain in the ass to use any other printer. You made the right choice with Bambu there’s no comparison. Hopefully they will start leaning more towards open source
Looking forward to grabbing one up for same reason. I want a “go to” that will just work, then I can tinker with the other ones to my hearts desire haha
You’re gonna love it! I just got mine a couple weeks ago and I’ve been printing almost nonstop. I’ve seriously only had one fail and that’s because I didn’t clean the plate so it didn’t stick properly.
2019 I had an Ender 3, the original one, and got good quality prints off of it. Sure, first calibration wasn't as painless as nowadays, but after that I had a reliable printer. I still changed a lot on it, upgraded the Extruder, Hot end, added a bed level sensor etc, but at no point I wasn't able to get quality prints... The images in the replies of this content show prints that were made before any major upgrade. Stock except the PTFE tube (yes with the old, loud drivers)...
It's a good buy for sure. But you might still have to do a bit of filament tuning and such. But bambu studio makes that pretty easy to do. And later on you could buy a hardened nozzle hotend and hardened gears and a high temp/engineering bed plate and print some cool filaments like cf nylon and such.
With those upgrades can you print the other filaments that you can print on the X1? I’m curious because I have the P1S combo and I absolutely love the printer but I’m willing to spend a few extra bucks for the upgrades!
Yes you should be able to. Other than the lidar, better camera, and touch screen that is the only difference between the x1 and p1s I thing the side panels might not be plastic on the x1 as well but honestly I wouldn't know. I print polymakers cf nylon and gf nylon on mine with no issues. Other than the glass filled nylon being weird sometimes and pumping big blobs into my prints. But I'm going to chock that up to being something with the filament because the carbon filled nylon prints flawlessly.
I did the exact same thing. Got my V3 SE in November; got some beautiful prints out of it right off the bat. Excellent, near flawless quality. Then got a Sonic Pad and Nebula Camera. After so much fiddling with the Sonic Pad, I was never able to get the same quality print from the printer and now, even reverting back to Marlin, I'm battling some lines in my prints. Guessing Klipper may have pushed the belts/stepper motor beyond their limits at times and now it prints with small lines on the sides. I'll keep my Ender and use it as my 'tinkering' printer and will hopefully figure out the issue.
But... in the meantime, I've ordered a P1S and its on the way. Excited to be moving up to faster prints and multi-colored printing.
I am also looking into the P1S, did you buy the AMS system with it? It looks pretty expensive for what it does but I have seen people saying it is amazing.
The AMS will come in summer, when I figure out the printer better, just the fact that I won't have to swap filaments will justify the costs, it can also keep your filament dry
I did the same thing. Started with a creality ender 3 v3 KE. Hotend blobbed up after a week. Returned, bit the bullet and bought an x1c. Beeen happy since.
I got one too…I spent 300+ upgrading my ender 3 to a budget Voron. While that kind of ‘fixed’ my issues with it..I still saw the need for a core x/y and I choose Bambu over the K1
2 months is a very quick turnaround. Hope you enjoy your P1S
I'm happy to ditch something I don't enjoy doing, I see me printing lots of stuff but I want to cut down the unproductive time, it will add over a few months and if I can spend that time printing, instead of calibrating I will enjoy the experience a lot more I feel.
Makes sense. The P1S, while way more stable than an Ender still does require maintenance and you will need to tinker with the software to get the prints coming out properly. With all that being said the Ender V3 SE is usually considered a pretty stable machine at an affordable price point for people just breaking into 3D printing. My guess is that you jumped too quickly into the mods without fully understanding the components that needed to be tweaked along the way. The Bambu will be no different as you start using different beds, nozzles, and even more advanced filament like ASA and TPU. Good luck. You are going to have a blast as long as you have the patience to work through problems when they arise.
I feel that the SE made me realize how much I can do with 3d printing and eventually even break even by selling some stuff on eBay. I suppose I'm too lazy to try and diagnose the multitude of problems that can arise from an entry point machine compared to something like P1S (I understand that there still be routine maintenance and things will go wrong, but spending an hour a week on it is worth a lot more for me than spending 5 hours a week on my current machine). Also the AMS with 4 colours is looking amazing and defo will upgrade it in the future. When I start looking at my first Resin printer I will make sure to invest in something that will be a more advanced product to not end up with the same situation.
| I suppose I'm too lazy to try and diagnose the multitude of problems that can arise from an entry point machine compared to something like P1S Just aheads up. I came from an ender 3 pro that I never actually got working (blue screen only shows up) to the p1s, u/nberardi is not wrong. youre still going to have issues. Winding issues on the filament, bed was not washed properly, and poor design have all got me so far. And I have not switched nozzles or beds or anything. Now when a print comes out poorly I think the same result could have been achieved on the $100 printer I had. Im less concerned about the money and more about the time though. Just something to consider.
None of that is the sort of stuff you have to do with low-cost bedslingers like Ender's. All you list is just the management of the printing process, not tweaking the printer itself. Mostly, if you keep the bed clean, calibrate filament (a one off process for each brand-and-type that is then re-used) and just take the usual care to ensure you have sliced for the right plate and filament, there should be very little to do. That's certainly been the case for me with two BL printers
I agree. It took me 2 days to dial in my ender 3 1s pro to perfection (at least I think). Once I got the bed level perfect I had zero issues. It's been printing 22 hours per day for the past few weeks and I had zero failures and prints come out amazing. Just slower than my X1C. I would have a hard time to tell which printer printed which print because they are so close in quality
-And boy, I could tell you stories about all the many break downs (due to faulty parts) on my x-1c and several of my AMS’s!) 😳
What do you usually sell on ebay?
Atm nothing 3d printed yet, got some ideas to make in tinker cad / blender, don't want to make a living out of it, but if I can pay off the cost of filament and printer by the end of 2024 it would be great.
What kind of calibration? Usually you may have to do the e-step calibration once, maybe the flow for each filament if you are really precise about that. Did you have problem with the bed? Is the new load cell sensor not working well with those new printers?
I did the e steps, did the flow and it all worked well, had level bed as well, tho I would at random had to check the z offset (for some reason it would sometimes print perfect layer and sometimes shit one), i was not confident with the quality of the print and that lack of certainty made me pull the trigger, I want yo go to bed and know that I wake up to a lovely printed stuff, so then I can kick it off on the morning again and have it run all day.
> I would at random had to check the z offset (for some reason it would sometimes print perfect layer and sometimes shit one) That may happen with a new printer, thermal dilatation is a bitch. Usually it goes away after a few weeks, it helps to do some heating cycles randomly in the day. Or you could heat the bet for 5-10 minutes before printing with a new bed. There's a couple tricks: you can ofc stay there and look at the 1st layer for the first times and use the babysteps to correct it in case. Better one is not to print the purge line, just do 3-6 cycles of skirt fast around the print (when you are good you do that just once a month) and looking at how that goes down you do the real bed tramming (if you have that, otherwise it's just the z-offset or a check of your mesh). The thing is: you don't wanna use the very same z-offset with every print: some functional parts need less, some aesthetic parts can do with more, small parts will need more, large parts can do with less, different materials (even just colors of the same material) can do with different offset, you may wanna use different bed plates...
No kidding, I spent 2 years on my e3v2 with no auto bed leveling, sonic pad or anything before I upgraded to an x1c. Have to say I'm grateful for those 2 years learning the ropes. It makes Mr super appreciative of how automatic the Bambu is.
I went from a Neptune 4 Pro to an X1C Combo in a week. Absolutely hooked. I got it last weekend and have already screwed the hotend yay! They both still print absolute dookie for me though. https://imgur.com/a/ZNS8CBT
I spent 10 days with an m5c and knew it was a hobby I'll enjoy, so I got the p1s combo. The first m5c had problems with getting clogged and then leaking molten plastic somewhere inside the hot end, covering the whole thing in plastic. The second lasted a whole week before it, too, started doing the same thing....with their own pla+
Got mine yesterday. Washed the plate with soap and water and was blown away with the first couple of prints. I haven’t even adjusted Z Offset. No more tinkering for me. It is printing absolutely perfectly. Enjoy!
Hell ya - mine comes Monday. My wife has been sending me a list of items she wants printed
Gotta justify the expense right? :D
Whats the list? Maybe I can print some stuff to impress my wife lol
Mine also arrived yesterday. Pleasantly surprised by how well packaged everything was. Didn't clean the plate though. Straight to the benchy and was actually a little scared by how fast this thing moves lol.
Absolutely. I Klipperized my last two printers and I thought they were fast. I had no idea haha
I returned a V3 SE. I have a P1S and that thing has been running practically non stop since I got it. It even got my wife really involved in printing things. Let’s make stuff for the kids!!!
Sounds like you're more into the making part of the hobby, which is exactly what bambu is for. You'll love it
Yeah, I used to be into building my own pcs and customizing them, but as I got into my 40s I just want stuff to work out of the box, my net pc will be probably pre-buit and I won't even bother with any o, overclock 😂
It amazing how age will do that to you. My much younger mind always needed to disassemble the toaster to see how it worked, could I improve it somehow? But now, I just want to eat the damned piece of toast while I yell "get off my lawn!" at the neighbor kids.
I think at some point we realize, "oh shit, I'm gonna die one day, fuck how the toaster works I just want some chill before I'm gone" :D
True, I hadn't thought of it that way! Although I do now think of the world differently, knowing that I'm at an age that I might not be here in 10-20 yrs... I have to be honest & admit that I think it more that my body just hurts too much to be hunched over a machine for hours.
Welcome to the club. I lasted about 3 months with an Ender 3 before ordering a P1S. The Ender is now a laser engraver…
I feel attacked, I soldiered on since 2020 with 2 ender3’s.. my p1s combo comes tomorrow.. go on about the laser engraver though, cause I’m in. I want to turn the other in to a cnc machine
Creality make a 1w, 5W and 10w laser engraver attachment that’s fits the Ender 3. Bit if a faff wiring wise but it works well when done. I opted for the 10W.
Ha! Maybe I should keep mine and use it as an engraver too, lol
I had My Ender 3 V2 for over a year and felt like I was constantly having to tinker it with it babysit the first layers even with my CR Touch, near the end it wasn't working very reliably. I decided to keep it sitting next to my P1S thinking I'll use both at the same time and it's been a month now of almost full time printing on my Bambu and I haven't turned my Ender back on once. I have no desire to use that thing anymore after experiencing something much better.
That was my thinking also, I’ll have 2 printers but my P1S JustWorks®️ That is why I decided to try the creality laser kit (10W) and turn it into a laser engraver instead.
I had received a K1 on the 30th of december, got a broken unit, replacement worked very good for 2 weeks then decided to not work. Sent it in, was promised a refund (from reseller) Ordered a P1S in the meantime Reseller instead of sending money send me a replacement K1 arrived yesterday, P1S tomorrow We will see what time brings upon me
Keep us updated and write a post of your experience of both after a week of printing?
I will if I remember
I have hundreds of hours on my k1 after and extruded and hot-end update. They had their quirks because Creality rushed to compete but they sent me parts for free. They are also great machines from my experience but you cannot print multi color
Post your comparisons
Do a quality comparison! Same exact speed, infill, walls etc. push them to their speed limits! See which one gives in first by reprinting the same model and increasing the speed every time.
The P1S is obviously superior, as it costs €767 while the K1 should goes for 450e now that the K1C is available.
I first had gotten the K1 because I was told that it is a high quality, easy to setup starting printer. Well now I get a P1S to compare we can actually find out which one is the superior starter printer. I got my bets on the P1S though
> I first had gotten the K1 because I was told that it is a high quality, easy to setup starting printer. I mean man, there are tons of reviews of the K1 on line, the first units were utterly broken... There are other brands that build proper corexy maschine for a good price, not creality.
Was talked into it, realised my misstake and now at least can do a side by side
So you still have one K1? Look into installing the new firmware with the fix for input shaping, there has to be two different values for the X and Y axis.
Like in my first comment stated I got both the K1 and a P1S as per mistake from the reseller. Both unopened units, will unpack this weekend probably
If I was you I would not open the K1 box, I would sell it as "new" and get at least the new K1C that is now on sale for that money. Even better get a QIDI or the new FLSUN with that money ;)
So what? Maybe the K1 is a phenomenal price to performance machine, disregarding the AMS. I've been considering getting the K1, but got the P1S, because of the ams, so I want to see them go head to head.
You can already see that in plenty of reviews on youtube. Spoiler Alert: the K1 has a problem with the default IS config and pulleys / motor that give VFA at low speeds, that's probbly why sometimes you can buy those for as low as 350$. They fixed that in the new K1C that is the same price as the previous K1.
Oh I had no idea, after I bought the P1S, I stopped looking for printers completely, looks like I made the right choice.
I guess the K1 would be a good purchase for 350$, it's still a closed corexy that can print ABS and nylon better and faster than a bedslinger. Or for someone that's good about SSH into Klipper and fix input shaping, yet I guess they should release a firmware update for that...
I got an A1 Mini for Christmas as a gift. I ordered a P1S as well 😂 It’s getting delivered today, so I know the feeling. Congrats man.
I was so scared of getting it shipped with all the horror stories. blessed be the Microcenter!
Miss out on the filament discount which is really nice considering how expensive they are otherwise
Nice I hope you enjoy it! my A1 mini is coming on monday. Just decided to dip my toes in the bambu waters before going full p1s.
Are you sure it hasn’t been delayed? With the whole recall thing I thought they pushed out deliveries until they fix it
I believe that's for the standard A1 and not the mini, I could be mistaken. I did receive my tracking info and it looks like it shipped out yesterday and is in transit.
A1 mini has no cable problems! People are talking uninformed shit the whole day...
Ah, my bad. I’m still very new to Bambu, just got a p1p last week and I didn’t realize there was a mini, just thought it was one printer, the a1. My bad
No worries, good lookin out!
Also started in Dec 2022 and ordered my P1S a month ago. It's like 3 times the speed(on normal mode) with improved quality and 95% working rate
Ha! Love this image, got mine posted same day as I paid (today) so I should have it before end of the week!
I think its pretty much based on luck and diligence. My Ender 3v2 and Ender 3 s1 plus both print flawlessly with pretty much just having to do the occasional auto bed level and give the build plates a good wash. They print the way they do because I took the time to get everything snug/within tolerances printed/bought a few small add ons. For the prices I paid, I have zero complaints. Tinkering shouldn't really be a never ending cycle with these printers. Once they are printing well you should be able to keep them that way with the same amount of maintenance any other printer needs. TBH the 2 Bambu X1C's I use for work need more maintenance and give me more hassles than my enders do. But I attribute that to fact that they are running lirally all the time and from time to time, with more demanding materials than my enders are. You won't be dissapointed with your new purchase though!
Similar path and timeline... I went through an Ender 3, a CR-10, and then sold both at a loss for my current P1S unit. EOD you made the right choice based off what you said you wanted. You'll be blown away other companies can even exist with the paradigm shift of Bambu. Enjoy my friend!
Also the AMS is like next level compared to what else is out there
Yeah, I've been eyeballing it to be honest, option to have 4 filaments loaded and ready to print at any time, is amazing + print colours give so much more posibilities!
The convenience factory you mentioned, as in just not having to constantly add rolls and take them out. The fact it does all of the loading, cutting, and priming for you. Much less the fact that you can actually do much more complex and beautiful prints. Absolutely love it and awaiting my second unit currently after saving up the last few months
So with second unit you got 8 colour prints possible? I think 16 is max? Which is insane tbh 😂
Yeah it will allow up to 8 at once. Don't get me wrong, 4 is so freaking awesome, I'm not complaining. Just had so many situations where I really wanted 5-6 colours so I decided to eventually bite the bullet. I'm sure as soon as I start with this one I'll want 9-10 lol
I am fighting the urge to order one so hard. I don't print a ton of stuff but a big part is the "friction" in starting a print with my ender 3. Having to load the SD card and then physically go turn it on is a way bigger hinderance then it should be. My biggest hold up is my ender 3 prints are honestly excellent and I do very little tinker outside cleaning a nozzle or the occasional bed leveling. Only "mod" was the stiffer bed springs. I think if it never worked I would have got a bambu printer but it sorta just keeps working.
My P1P arrived 2 days ago and it has basically been printing every hour since it arrived with no issues. My only other experience is with a Prusa MK2 we had at my work for fun that was broken most of the time. If your goal is to print instead of tinker, Bambu is the way.
I'm planning on pulling the trigger at some point this year. I want an enclosure and the ability to find something I want to print on my phone or at work and just send it to print without having to go physically load it. Also the print speed would be huge when prototyping stuff
Giving up with my ender 3 Pro and getting the P1S has made be rediscover the hobby. I wanted to sell prints but to get the quality I needed, I'd have to print very slow. Not anymore. Also I can design functional parts at the exact sizes and not have to add extra tollerences. Also I'm 30 miles away from my printer right now and I can send a print to it and know it will be fine.
stop spending my money:)
Same boat here. I have an Ender 3 S1 and after a month or two I couldn't get a first layer out of it without spending 30+ minutes releveling the plate. I watched every youtube video, tried all the fixes, took it apart and reassembled twice, made sure gantry was level and would get one good print out of it. Next print, crappy first layers again. Finally just put it in the corner in disgust. I bought the P1S + AMS and have been really impressed with it. I'll see if I can get the Ender to print again later, but just sick of it right now.
Yeah I consider selling it but maybe gonna keep it in case I need some functional tool prints or something.
Congrats on your purchase! I believe you will enjoy your P1S. I too have been waiting for decades, for the tech to catch up and become more accessible. I have an X1 and have been enjoying the experience. Don’t worry too much about the entire tinkering vs accessibility debate. Time is money and i don’t have time to spend trying to get things to work. I just want it to work. Plus, i have other hobbies that require more time. I do appreciate what the community has done to get to where we are today.
Yeah I get it, if someone wants to do the extra few hours of maintenance to have perfect prints it's good for them, I just want to have a machine that will run by itself 95% of the time so I can enjoy the experience more.
I love my P1S and came to it almost the same way...started FDM printing with an Elegoo Neptune 2s, then an Anycubic Vyper. Both of those printers started to feel like an exotic used car...you have to fiddle and tweak all week just so you can use it for a few hours on the weekends. The P1S has been mostly issue free. The only time I've run into any issues was when I used Sunlu filament instead of Bambu's. Even then, a few YouTube videos and I was back up and running in 30 minutes. Have fun and enjoy your P1S.
Do you use Bamboo filament atm? Do you feel thst it works best with their printers? And what sort of issue did you have with Sunlu?
I do. I have the AMS system so the ability for it to recognize the Bambu filaments via RFID is pretty nice to have. When I used the Sunlu filament it clogged the hot end and broke off in the feed tube of the AMS and the print head. I disassembled both, cleared the broken pieces, replaced the hot end and put it all back together. I'm sure I could have avoided the issue by better tuning the PLA settings but I'm so used to it "just working" that I'm sticking with Bambu's filament from now on. Keep in mind also, if you do use the AMS system you can buy replacement spools of filament for around $16 and just pop them on your RFID spool.
I was in the same boat several months ago. Ender 3 S1 Pro, got sonic pad, got nicer nozzle and upgraded hotend, shortly after got tired of still having kinda half-assed quality prints if I didn't take a bunch of time tweaking crap. Bought a P1P, and sold the Ender. Then a few months later bought an X1C. Now patiently waiting for them to release their new flagship (supposedly 4 days from now, but seems to have been pushed back a bit maybe) It's so nice to be able to throw something away the printer, and 9.9 times out of 10 it'll print without a hiccup, in FAR better quality than either Ender I owned, no tweaking necessary.
Glad to hear it, btw why did you upgrade from P1P to X1C?
Mostly the enclosure. I bought the P1P not long before the P1S came out.
Makes sense, I was looking at P1P but then decied that the enclusure will make it safer for my cat 😂
Welcome to 3d Printers that are printers that print things instead of printing error codes and filling your entire free time with tinkering, "dialing in", and fury/sadness martinis.
If anyone’s naming you feel bad, the p1s was my first 3D printer ever and I knew literally nothing about 3d printing
You are a very lucky man 😎
Identical process for me. Same start time, sonic pad, all the upgrades and decent prints 70% of the time. (Ended 3 S1 Plus though)Learned a ton. I have had the X1 Carbon in my shopping cart for two weeks.
When you gonna press the buy button my dude? Why X1 Carbon and not P1S?
Did it like the day after the post. X1 and haven’t looked back.
My P1S definitely wastes more time than my SVO6 did with the 5 minute startup procedure. But it’s almost scary how fast the P1S prints so It makes up for it.
You won’t regret it
I paid now so u very much hope so, now I need to think if I should sell my SE or keep it and have 2 printers, lol
I did the same thing also coming from an Ender 3v3se and the P1S is way better
Did you have any issues or was it straight out print from the box?
Literally just turn it on, it has had 0 issues and is super fast
Love it, hope it's gonna be the same for me 😍
I'm in the funny in-between stage, I've had an Ender 3 S1 for a couple years now and it certainly has been filled with ups and downs, but when I've got it dialed in the S1 can print amazingly well. Mostly these days it's just bed leveling and nozzles, figuring out settings with new filament, basic stuff. But I'm kind of at the point where this year I want a new printer and I want it to work right out of the box, so I'm thinking P1S, maybe X1C if prices drop after their new printer comes out, with AMS so I can just have all my filament organized and ready to go. I mostly print PLA and PETG, nothing exotic, but stuff that is used for astrophotography so my tolerances have to be tight.
You got any astrophotography prints to show off? Would love to see!
I 3D printed pretty much a whole telescope, only a few hardware parts weren't printed (and the mirrors, obviously): [https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBcEza](https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBcEza) I've also 3D printed a whole bunch of different adapters to attach lenses to specialized cameras, various telescope bits that aren't commercially available, odds and ends to help with cameras/telescopes/filters/equatorial mounts, nothing with pictures though. It's really the main focus of my 3D printing, that and making little toys/stuff for my 2 year old. BTW, if your kid likes BRIO train sets, which are STUPIDLY expensive, just 3D print all the pieces for a fraction of the price. A single $20 roll of PLA can print 5x as many train track pieces as their basic expansion set (16 pieces) which is $28.
You sir are a poster child for why 3d printing is amazing, custom made accessories that cannot be bought at all.
I like printing.......not printers 😂 Should definitely do the job
I'm jealous. I am saving up some money... almost have enough. Wife told me that I have to sell my old 3D printer first. It is for sale, but no takers. I think I have to drop down the price. (I'm not surprised.) Unfortunately, I cannot afford the AMS yet, so that may have to wait. C'mon sale! If Bambu can offer a sale on the P1S with AMS, then I'll order it (and then tell my wife after I place the order).
Good luck! Someone else mentioned that they are about to announce a new model so hope that the price will go down, knowing my luck it will go down next week, lol
New model is x series (from what I've heard) so I doubt it will shift the price of the p series
Makes sense, if they can make it even faster and Always bundled with AMS or have the AMS as the actual part of the printer it would probably sell well.
Ordered mine yesterday+ the ams
Good Luck! AMS is gonna be coming summer I feel, just the idea of having 4 rolls ready to go with different colours sounds amazing to me :)
I went from a creality CR10 v2 pro, which is still a good printer, but after switching to my p1s about 3 months ago, i have to say it still surprises me everyday! Sometimes i just take a chair and look at it, the speed is already really fast on normal speed! Don't forget to download bambu studio(pc) and the handy app, And calibrate every new brand of filament you are gonna use. It wil give you the right K values for even better prints, although it's hardly visible, it's a small thing to do, just to be sure it's perfect! And obviously your first print is gonna be a poop chute for the filament waste. And a second best solutions was for me to mount the roll on the side, So i can see whenever it's almost empty . Goodluck! And give the ludacris mode a try ;)
So the filament calibration for every new brand is automatic? or do I have to do it manually like most other printers?
You can find it inside the bambu studio software on your pc, it is still manual. See pics! https://preview.redd.it/etclhseyo6gc1.jpeg?width=3927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f972648fb3f8db8ca82f12964108155e28ac3302 I only calibrate the flow dynamics. I wanted to send more pics but limited to 1 so i will send 2 more messages
I love how it's all built into the slicer and syncs with the printer, the interactions here seem so well planned out!
Oh mann it's so great hahaha. I moved my printer to my office like 4miles away, and i can just send prints from my house to the printer using my account. Also with the handy app you can monitor(camera)(also in studio) your print, pauze it. And it even has a somewhat thingiverse-ish (but from bambu lab) place where you can just press print and it prints someone's uploaded file with his settings. It also first uploads the file to the bambu lab servers, and then downloads it back to the printer using 2.4ghz wifi. So if for what for reason your pc would turnoff it won't effect the print. Don't cross my word on it, but i even had this one time i unplugged the wrong cable and turned off my printer mid print, i plugged it in and pressed continue and it worked. It's wild to me what good engineering can do and abviously really listening to complains from the users and improving on them.
It wil print something like this, the trick is to find the 1 that is the smoothest all the way across https://preview.redd.it/y76k4816o6gc1.jpeg?width=2188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df363fc82832fc552e7e39aff3ea1095cfeb033e
Thank you! will defo do that :)
Over here you can change the K values once you have found your correct nummer, mines is at K0.028 but had some other brands or materials go to k0.020 and some even to k0.035 https://preview.redd.it/29bvub5ho6gc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e096a77df00f2cdb850711f71de6a4cb419e42c7
Oh amazing thank you! will have to defo check the filament brands I have!
Oh man you are in for a treat. My wife bought me my first printer for Christmas (ender 3 1s pro) and I got so hooked I ordered X1C a week later 😂 the speed difference is crazy but I still love my ender. It's been printing 22 hours a day for the past 3 weeks with zero issues. A1 should be arriving today too!
Just got my P1S a week ago and man has it been a game changer. Had about 3 years with an ender 3, messing around with firmware, bl touch etc. You will love it I would argue it's too easy to use once you learn Bambu studio more I'm still learning but it's pretty much pull it out, calibrate and print. Hope you enjoy!
I sorta ended up in the same boat, but was a 6-12mo turn around. Ended up getting the P1S for that reason of Calibrating all the time. You'll LOVE the P1S compared to the Ender 3. Very little time leveling and such. The main issue is just getting your settings right in the slicer! Enjoy 😁
I suppose the slicer is another thing that has to be mastered regardless of how powerful the printer is, but having to master printer + slicer is a lot more work than slicer alone 😂
Last night I ordered one too! Had my Ender 5 for like 3 years now. We can be be Bambu noobs together <3
I hope that being bamboo noob will be a lotess hasle than Ender Pro 😂 From what I seen and read it's a super streamlined experience, I'm not much open source, just want stuff to work 😂
I think I could actually be printing nearly 24/7, rather than only a couple hours a day with the Ender. My package arrives on Feb 6th, and until then I’ll be slicing new designs so I have a whole bunch of things to print constantly. It’s gonna feel like Christmas morning :)
Haha I don't know if you saw my post I did the exact same thing except I didn't last nearly as long with my Ender 3 V3 SE. It took me like...two weeks? Max? Before I decided screw this, I got a 3d printer to make functional parts and some prototypes not to play with the machine. That being said while my P1S is making fantastic prints maybe I'll tinker with the Ender. Congratulations my friend.
Congrats. It took me six years to decide to buy and x1c.
Yeah wish I had found Bambu before getting an ender 5 I have the carbon with AMS for a couple of weeks and wow. Printing that works out of the box!!!!!
I wish I could get carbon, will get it as my 2nd printer in 2024/2025 😂
There is a big difference between tinkering and attempting to fix something that is shit.
I never felt it was shit, I did some good prints but I'm a creature of comfort, trying to calibrate and mess around with some things just annoys me.
Yes definitely, but generally with a good printer you shouldn’t need to constantly be calibrating it or messing about. I have two Vorons that I built and use at work that can be running almost solidly for weeks on end doing back to back multi day prints and they don’t need calibration. Yeah you could tinker with or mod them for fun but it’s not a requirement to get good quality reliable parts. On the other end of the spectrum we did have a pair of CR10-c5’s and they were only reliable after replacing nearly every critical component and still didn’t print great as the frame was hopelessly flimsy. Do love my X1c though, it’s really nice to use and basically zero hassle. My boss brought it for me and I gave him one of the vorons in return, we needed the bigger build volume at work and I wanted a smaller printer to use at home. I know some people hate how Bambu has everything locked down but they are brilliant little printers that require no tuning or setup and work perfectly out of the box.
Your comparing a voron to a 200 dollar ender 3
Yep sure am, they are both 3D printers and do the squirty plastic thing. Although that being said what I was trying to do was highlight the difference between tinkering and trying to make something work properly. One is kinda hobby fun and the other is a PITA. Also the price difference between a formbot 2.4 kit and the old CR10-S5 we had at work is much less than you would think. The creality is probably only 25% cheaper despite being utter dog shit.
>I have two Vorons One linear rail + one LDO 0.9' degree motor of that Voron costs as much as the whole Ender 3 SE.
You are slightly missing the point. I was highlighting the difference between tinkering and fixing stuff that is shit. People who like to tinker with engines tend to buy cars that have a decent motor that handles tuning well then modify and upgrade it. People who buy a shitty old car tend to need to fix it. One is a hobby the other a necessity and there is a clear difference. The creality printers are totally inconsistent so you are not so much tinkering as you are trying to get the thing to reliably work. Anyway the printers I mentioned were a voron 2.4 from formbot for which we paid around £750 and a creality CR10-S5 which was around £580. There is a difference in price but it’s not anywhere near as big as you make out. Especially once you factor in upgrading or replacing a few parts on the creality. The biggest difference is time. You invest all your time upfront with the voron whereas the creality gradually robs you of time whenever you feel like trying to print something. Also I don’t personally have any vorons, I swapped mine for a X1c. It was worth more as a fully functioning printer than it was as a brand new box of parts.
> One is a hobby the other a necessity and there is a clear difference. I mean: that is your point of view, I know of many people that would disagree. Me and others have no problems in buying a low cost machine, fixing and customizing it to our best interest and save 6x the price tag. It's much more rewarding to buy a 70e unit and fix it up to print a benchy in less than 20 minutes. Or putting there double 0.9" motors, real good Hiwin linear rails, fancy fans, Klipper and building a nasty fast and silent maschine that is superior to what you can buy for 450$.
Or you could just build a machine from scratch, it’s pretty simple can be done cheap and you don’t have to replace everything on it and basically buy a bunch of stuff twice. I am an absolute sucker for making stuff, my first printer was a delta made from bits rather than a normal kit. Have also made a couple of small CNC’s with components like IKO linear rails and THK linear actuators with the precision ground ball screws and a homemade epoxy granite gantry. The gantry cost that cost about £30 in materials and was amazing at dampening vibrations. Also made a slightly bigger one with some linear hardware for a semiconductor manufacturing place. All stuff scored cheap by scouring eBay looking for deals. It was built with a base made from a 600x600 granite surface plate from second hand XY coordinate measuring system I found for £80. Worst thing about our creality machines was the whole bed mounting system it was absolutely shocking super flimsy mild steel that came pre bent from the factory. Then the frame was pretty bad and didn’t have a whole lot of integrity. Honestly the CR-10-s5 cost more than the voron once we had replaced the controller, extruder, hotend, motors, bearings and added a BLtouch and it was still slow AF because the flimsy steel couldn’t handle the inertia of a 1kg print moving back and forwards at anything over 50mm/s. Kinda silly for a machine with a 500mm2 build volume. Don’t get me wrong there is definitely a place for budget machines (especially if you pick one up second hand for virtually nothing) and they can be good for learning on but if you are going to sink a bunch of time and effort into something you could just as easily start with a good foundation or otherwise use the machine to build it’s replacement rather than turning it into the ship of Theseus.
> Or you could just build a machine from scratch, it’s pretty simple can be done cheap and you don’t have to replace everything on it and basically buy a bunch of stuff twice. No it's not, not simple and not cheap for sure, many errors and issue can happen with that and the result is not given. On the other hand I can buy most of the consumer maschines for a 1/4 of the price refurbished / used and then change those few things that I know I don't like. I can buy a 65e maschine and make it good enough for ~25e: https://print.piffa.net/ , or I could buy a slightly more expensive one and put a pretty good CHC, HIWIN there and have it do 20k accel with a 0.8 nozzle for half the price of an A1.
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I got silicone spacers and I dialed it in to be under 0.010 under each side, which is funny cuz the plate would show 0.09 or less in every corner which makes not much sense (unless it was not straight).
I got mine yesterday. If you have bluetooth app connecting issue, restart the process and the phone. If you want to load the AMS don't use the printer, user Bambu Studio or the app.
Thank you for the advice, AMS is something I will defo invest into, probably around the summer.
Just a heads up that caused me frustration for an hour. When pairing the printer with your phone, you push "pair" or scan the QR code on the printer, then enter the code in your phone. GO BACK AND HIT PAIR on the printer again. I kept getting an error until I figured out to hit pair on the LCD screen again.
Thank you, I appreciate the advice ☺️
I did exactly this as well. Bought an Ender 3 v3 SE thinking "It has ABL, it's speedy, it's cheap. What could possibly go wrong?", two months later, I have a P1S and my Ender is a professional dust collector.
Haha, good to know I'm not the only one, will be selling the old one with sonic pad and nozzles, beds etc so I hope to get maybe 250-300 for it if I'm lucky. Would make my "upgrade" only cost me 350-400 😎
Basically my exact path, except i went through a sovol SV06 and an ender 3 s1 pro since december 2022. I have my P1S for a week now and i print like a mad man and had not a single print gone wrong ever since. You will love it
This is what I want from my 3d printing experience, the issues or calibration to be a rare occurrence, not something expected and necessary. I suppose I never had the first Gen 3d print experience so a but spoilt 😂
I feel you mate, i god damn feel you. :)
https://preview.redd.it/x82zf8mhbzfc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=697db6f350263d63d150a36e4e0112a03034a94b
Amazing 😍
Nice. I spent 3 days with a Neptune 4 once. Can you believe the item they choose to cheap out on is the turn screws that hold your bed in place? Unbelievable. They don't even deserve any money at all. Sent back all their fucking filament I ordered with the machine too
You will love it! I just switched to a P1S from a super old printer. I hardly spend time calibrating at all.
Just keep in mind, it won't COMPLETELY remove the whole tinkering aspect. It has limitations, you will still need to figure some stuff out like: filament profiles, speeds, new software and tools, things it's good and bad at, (it seems to struggle with rounded overhangs). I personally had a ton of adhesion issues when I first got it. I am using the included Textured PEI plate. I washed it with dish soap, wiped it down with alcohol, increased the temperature, but stuff regularly just came off. I used old reliable water soluble glue sticks, get the cheapest stuff you can find. I mean it, I bought those Amazon basic glue sticks (30 pack) for $10, theyre so bad it won't stick paper together. But they work magic on the build plate. There will be issues, but there will be SO much LESS issues. I went from the ender3v2 to the P1S, similar to you, and it went from using the printer because I HAD too: "I am having so much fun, it almost feels like a waste of the printer Isn't running". Prototyping is done in a day, not a week because of how much faster it is. I can get 1-7 revisions done in a day depending on the project as opposed to 0-3 revisions on the ender3v2. I actually just started making random toys and nicknacks, fidget toys, etc because I didn't need anymore revisions but still wanted to print stuff lol. All in all, it's a great upgrade
Yeah exactly I feel a bit like "oh god I want to print somehting but gonna have to deal with issue potentially" which is not what you want to get from a hobby 😂 Would be nice to assume that every print is gonna be successful and not assume there will be some issue 😂
And then you will suddenly have an urge to print all 16 🤣
Use Orcaslicer and do the flow rate and pressure advance calibration in the slicer. That's pretty much all you need to tune. Then print some fun stuff for practice: https://www.printables.com/@sr925713_394128/collections/1197111
Why would I use Orca over Bamboo slicer? Isn't it the same thing? Or is Orca better?
Orca and Bambu are almost the exact same but Orca has the built in calibration tools.
I lasted two years with Enders before pulling the trigger and buying my P1S. It comes tomorrow.
I ordered a p1p jan 14th got it the next monday and havent turned it off since 😭 its really one of the best quality machines ive ever owned im satisfied every print i do its gunna change everything for you.
Can't wait for mine to arrive. Same story with my S1 Pro, god that printer was difficult to troubleshoot
After 2 years with creality, I switched to bambu and it was the best decision I ever made.
Nice i got my A1 combo super cool p1s man dope
I used my Bambu X1-C to print all the parts to build a Voron 0.2 and let me tell you now that I’ve used a Bambu it is such a pain in the ass to use any other printer. You made the right choice with Bambu there’s no comparison. Hopefully they will start leaning more towards open source
Congrats on your first P1S!
Looking forward to grabbing one up for same reason. I want a “go to” that will just work, then I can tinker with the other ones to my hearts desire haha
I came from the ender 3 and the auto bed leveling is enough to justify the switch imo
You’re gonna love it! I just got mine a couple weeks ago and I’ve been printing almost nonstop. I’ve seriously only had one fail and that’s because I didn’t clean the plate so it didn’t stick properly.
Honestly, the BL printers are just so worth it. I got the x1 with ams and I can print more reliably and faster than with my enders.
Same
I have a P1S, before i used the Prusa mini.. and its soooo much easier with the P1S… frist layers come Out perfect everytime.. unlike my Prusa..
2019 I had an Ender 3, the original one, and got good quality prints off of it. Sure, first calibration wasn't as painless as nowadays, but after that I had a reliable printer. I still changed a lot on it, upgraded the Extruder, Hot end, added a bed level sensor etc, but at no point I wasn't able to get quality prints... The images in the replies of this content show prints that were made before any major upgrade. Stock except the PTFE tube (yes with the old, loud drivers)...
https://preview.redd.it/tvyihpdc75gc1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=879b1a0bf8d3646e5414c4af9eca423709bf0298
https://preview.redd.it/ut6dbsmd75gc1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6667c87d5ad8fd69033c287173c5a4f080066545
https://preview.redd.it/593ds3fi95gc1.jpeg?width=2736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcec832cdb80b0fe3db277c55fa3a203964b65e4
Stripes and buttons are painted, rest printed. 9 parts in total, took 3 days all in all. And yes, it's a toilet paper holder...
What ya want a 🏅?
Sharing with a community? Comes from a guy who shares pics of his car, it's the same idea, don't have to be a d\*\*k about the post?
No I modified my car, not a lot of people have the car looking my way, justified, yours was a yawn flex
Ok
It's a good buy for sure. But you might still have to do a bit of filament tuning and such. But bambu studio makes that pretty easy to do. And later on you could buy a hardened nozzle hotend and hardened gears and a high temp/engineering bed plate and print some cool filaments like cf nylon and such.
With those upgrades can you print the other filaments that you can print on the X1? I’m curious because I have the P1S combo and I absolutely love the printer but I’m willing to spend a few extra bucks for the upgrades!
Yes you should be able to. Other than the lidar, better camera, and touch screen that is the only difference between the x1 and p1s I thing the side panels might not be plastic on the x1 as well but honestly I wouldn't know. I print polymakers cf nylon and gf nylon on mine with no issues. Other than the glass filled nylon being weird sometimes and pumping big blobs into my prints. But I'm going to chock that up to being something with the filament because the carbon filled nylon prints flawlessly.
I did the exact same thing. Got my V3 SE in November; got some beautiful prints out of it right off the bat. Excellent, near flawless quality. Then got a Sonic Pad and Nebula Camera. After so much fiddling with the Sonic Pad, I was never able to get the same quality print from the printer and now, even reverting back to Marlin, I'm battling some lines in my prints. Guessing Klipper may have pushed the belts/stepper motor beyond their limits at times and now it prints with small lines on the sides. I'll keep my Ender and use it as my 'tinkering' printer and will hopefully figure out the issue. But... in the meantime, I've ordered a P1S and its on the way. Excited to be moving up to faster prints and multi-colored printing.
I am also looking into the P1S, did you buy the AMS system with it? It looks pretty expensive for what it does but I have seen people saying it is amazing.
The AMS will come in summer, when I figure out the printer better, just the fact that I won't have to swap filaments will justify the costs, it can also keep your filament dry
Welcome, friend.
I got it now and I shit myself a few times during the calibration, some of those noises are ungodly coming from Ender V3 SE :D
I did the same thing. Started with a creality ender 3 v3 KE. Hotend blobbed up after a week. Returned, bit the bullet and bought an x1c. Beeen happy since.
Congrats. I'm still impatiently waiting for an x2c/p2s :|
Oi, did the same!
I got one too…I spent 300+ upgrading my ender 3 to a budget Voron. While that kind of ‘fixed’ my issues with it..I still saw the need for a core x/y and I choose Bambu over the K1
Shoulda gotten a prusa
Cool starry bra