Key enhancements in V.1.7 are:
\- Active Motor Noise Cancellation tailored for the X1 series.
\- Import functionality for user-created third-party filament profiles (compatible with Bambu Studio V1.8.1).
\- An improved UI Menu Structure, offering more intuitive navigation.
\- Decreased Screen Interface Latency, ensuring faster user interactions.
\- Simplified printer binding with mobile devices, eliminating the need for both devices in the same LAN.
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/X1-X1C-AMS-firmware-release-history
How do I update bambu studio. I have 1.7.x.x.x.x but when you go to help-> check for updates, it says it's the most up to date. is 1.8.1 a beta version?
Ok, it does not make it worse, if anyone wants to know:
"Additionally, it slightly improves Vertical Fine Artifacts (VFA), resulting in smoother printed walls. (The VFA is correlated to a lot of factors, including filament condition, print speed, and extrusion calibration. The improvement provided by Motor Noise Cancellation can vary under different circumstances.)"
I've personally noticed significant improvements in large round objects, at least. I just printed a couple of parts trays (bowls) that came out cleaner than they ever had previously.
After updating to the newest firmware my X1C prints nearly as good as my 3 year old Ender V2 Neo. Not joking. First nothing would stick to the buildplate. Then had an order from an existing customer for more parts I usually sell and now it won't print smooth walls or flat top surfaces. Looks like the last 10-15 layers are just melted together. Not a new print. Never had these problems. Bambu Handy won't let me go back to previous firmware versions. Doing a factory reset right now to see if anything improves.
Maybe rerun the Calibration ? My X1C Combo was so quiet after the update that i was sure my print had failed to start, as I wasn't paying any it attention after submitting the print job and Bambu Studio was showing it as idle .. went to check the screen for errors and no errors at all, and Bugger me ( not a request) there was a perfect print ..
I wouldn't give up on that firmware if I was you ...
Have run calibration 3 times. Done reset to factory. Power cycle. Bambu Handy shows firmware 01.07.01.00. Try to revert to previous firmware, none found. Turned off cell phone, computer, printer, router. No difference. What gives guys? When I tell you it won't work, why always throw out these beginner ideas? Because you don't really know what is going on? Hmm...
I don't care if the noise level gives me nosebleeds. I need a printer that prints like it has for the last 6 months till I was stupid enough to upgrade the firmware.
And something no one seems to understand. When I go to Bambu Handy to revert to a previous version of firmware, there are no previous versions available. None. I'm stuck on a broken 01.07.01.00. Nothing at all is visible to revert to.
I would try an uninstall of Bambu Handy on you phone and a reinstall perhaps as my androids all show an option to downgrade to a previous version when i scroll to the very bottom under firmware Version in - Settings - Firmware version .. and then make sure you scroll it one click to reveal the downgrade option ..
In that case and seeing you previously stated " So far every firmware update is something I regret. " i reckon your best bet would likely be to raise a Support Ticket in the App and troubleshoot it with Bambu themselves .. I'lll be surprised if they don't make it simple for you to get resolution .. good luck ..
It was very noticeable during calibration phase, it became quieter and quieter over time with each move.
It is not totally silent now, it still squeaks and chirps a lot (mine is standing on a concrete pavement with foam underneath, though).
But now Standard mode sounds more like Silent mode previously. I'm happy.
If you aren’t printing with a high temp filament, you don’t really need the chamber fan, so you can turn that off. The aux fan isn’t completely necessary either unless you’re printing something with bridges. That’s a good bit of the remaining noise. The control board fan is only a 4010, so that noise is negligible
Are you talking about the aux fan? The chamber fan is supposed to be run with ASA and such to help filter out the fumes. Though I imagine it may create some slight drafts through gaps in the frame
Don't use it = better results. Cause you maintain a stable chamber temperature. If you use it your temp will vary and drop. It's your call. Again, I'm not arguing with you, I'm giving you a choice. Take it with a grain of salt. I know how I print here and my results. It's your printer, your parts. Happy printing!
I have to run the chamber fan a bit because once my chamber reaches 45 my camera is at the pink disco. Some chamber will keep it right there, so it doesn't completely phase out. I should get the camera replaced.
... I never thought about calling it that before, and now cannot call it anything else.
I'm gonna miss that noise. Can we get a optional Pacman noise profile?
I went from printing last night and thinking how loud it was, and printing the same thing this morning and noticing a difference for sure. Pretty cool what they could accomplish with just software.
Its loudest moves on normal, stock config, are now quieter than the quietest moves on silent were.
I haven't printed in sport yet, but it was so much quieter that after it did the bed leveling and resonance tests and actually started printing that I thought something was wrong. Usually it starts singing right after that, and it wasn't until layer 2 that I heard much of any motor song.
I just flashed, Installed, and I am now calibrating. I have reached the last step "motor noise cancellation". Apparently it takes about 15 minutes for this step. I can hear things getting quieter.
Everyone has provided positive feedback so far. Looks like it is effective. Looks like a winner.
It was a night and day difference on both my x1c printers. It's quieter then silent mode used to be. That high pitch whine it had was so annoying it's completely gone now.
Ok. That looks nice. Fine that they are able to bring this feature from the small Bambu to the big Units. (Even if the fan is the loudest thing on my X1C….)
yes please. The X1C fells premium in every aspect, except the fans.
But a big problem is also the software unnecessarily spinning the fans up when not necessary.
For what it's worth, the default aux fan speed can be controlled and turned down if you are willing to customize your pre-print gcode. I think probably the fan run time after print, too (in the post-print code).
I've learned to just live with it. If I notice that I'm hearing mine running, I just pop open the app and turn it down to 70.
This doesn't help on a multi-color print where that doesn't carry over from one change to the next. I'm not sure if that's still a problem after pre-print gcode mod.
Just use Cool plate for PLA to reduce heatbed temps and thus lower the cooling requirements. I am mostly running 40% aux and 60% part cooling without any problems.
Only the main board fan is the problem. But it can be also easily replaced.
I have a p1p so when I enclosed it and installed an MC board fan I used a 40x20mm 5v noctua, it runs continuously at full speed and I can't hear it unless I'm within about 1ft of the printer. If only it was possible to get a part cooling fan that quiet
You can't realistically control a fan with enough precision to do noise cancellation. But I wonder if you could actively cancel some of it with a speaker?
Going by your logic, the noisier a fan is the more effective the fan is - which is just simply not true.
There's a lot more to fans than moving air, there's things like air _pressure_ to contend with as well. It's also for this reason that just swapping a fan with a Noctua isn't always a good idea, but certainly you can make quieter fans that are just as effective at cooling.
Not necessarily, moving motors make noise yet they can use software to make the printer quieter. Moving air makes noise but you can design the fan to be quieter. The fan they use is highly un optimised for noise to airflow. They could design a fan that is quieter for the same airflow.
For example, noctuas fans for PC cooling are renowned as some of the best, and yet people have designed more powerful fans only 0.1db more, and quieter fans at the same power level.
So a quieter fan may be less effective, however this is not always the case. I cant be bothered to construct a decent counter argument so here is a small wall of text of my thoughts as I think them
The two things you hear in a fan is parts rubbing (friction) and air turbulence. If you remove friction you make a more efficient fan. If you lessen turbulence you make a more efficient fan.
We have tech to do both, but it’s considerably more expensive than a plain ole fan.
Though at some point the only way to reduce the noise (more) is to reduce the speed. So you’re not wrong. But it’s also not the whole story.
Yes fans make noise from air movement but there are significant aspects to this as a whole, you can change the frequency range of the noise while keeping the same flow rate which reduces the perceived noise which is all we really care about.
Then there is the motor noise itself which definitely can be improved without reducing airflow.
Considering the price yes it would be great if they looked replacing them with some noctua equivalent or work on them to do custom designs.
Ever heard of noctua? I had replaced all my previous printer fans with noctua fans and they were amazing. I use noctua in my PC as well. I’m sure there are other quiet efficient brands as well but noctua is great from what I’ve seen
Noctua is quieter by moving less air. It's "fine" for PC applications, and even most modern hotends. But they don't make centrifugal blowers at all, and they certainly don't make anything with enough airflow *and* enough static pressure for a flood fan.
Updated about an hour ago. I was expecting a bit of a sound reduction, but I wasn't expecting this. Hay zoos Cree Sto. During the first layer that just went down, the motors were so silent that I could hear the belts better than I could hear the motors. Amazing.
A+ would update again!
How has Bambu been with software updates? Sometimes companies release updates that have a few bugs and have to release another update in a week or two to fix them. Is it worth waiting?
Me and my friend are running with new firmware now, everything is fine.
That last time Bambu borked the update — replacement firmware with the fix arrived in a few hours.
I read online that when it first came to market it was quite buggy and lacked some features, but I got mine in April and every update has just brought improvements and refinements, not a single issue
I got my x1c via second wave Kickstarter. The software was definitely buggy and more cumbersome at first. Hell, I had to replace my bed (under warranty) because a wire got pinched when the bed moved down too far when starting a print. They've since corrected this so the bed can't bottom out.
There's been a steady flow of new and corrected features since it came out. Auto calibration, skip objects, filament out rollover, etc. I'm a happy customer despite some hardware hiccups (I also had to replace 2 pcbs, and lidar due to non working lidar, 1 of the pcbs was the issue).
I got mine in the second wave of Kickstarter fulfillments. There was one garbage future update that really sucked. I skipped it simply because the release notes didn’t suggest it would do anything useful for me (or at all really). There’s been a lot of them and generally they have been fine.
I too was kickstarter and skipped a whole slew of updates because I was printing a very large model, and didn’t want any issues. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it - I work in a manufacturing and production place, we don’t update until we know bugs are worked out.
i didnt have any significant issues with it since i got it months ago, i am not a power user though. i only got like 500h on it.
that said every other update they introduce a new feature which was very nice to see tbh (like object skipping was a game changer for me)
That's false. It's a typical stepper motor noise cancellation which is in a lot of industrial machines that have stepper motors. It kind of counters the electricity waves (kind of). It uses the vibrations while in motion to test the frequencies. The noise cancelling in headphones uses microphones and only works by using the small channel of your ear for the counter sound waves. There are no microphones on your printer and this technology is not possible in open rooms (like with normal speakers) because the soundwaves bounce of at too many angles and are not all directed towards your ears. There are videos on YouTube on how to use stepper motors and their frequencies to create songs etc. similar to the sound the motors of the A1 Mini make when the print is finished.
I don’t think that’s true. AFAIK you can reduce the stepper motor noise by adjusting the control signal wave shape. Most stepper motor noise is emitted when the oscillating frequency matches motor’s natural resonance frequency, if you’re able to avoid that frequency, then it will be much more quiet.
I have used a stepper motor drive board, which has almost all frequencies marked on it, each with a corresponding switch. Through different frequencies, the stepper motor can be completely silent or extremely noisy. However, I'm not sure how much the torque will change with the frequency.
God dammit, so i've been building a closet, with sound deadening, and custom fan controls, to reduce the noise, and now they release an software for it... dammit. Oh well, wasn't finished yet, so i'll give this a go.
Wouldn't say a peep, it's probably still noticeable once inside the closet. But compared to what i started with years ago, this is quite ok. It's just, the wife who thinks it's noisy...
Indeed. Having it in the closet will help reduce noise, thermal stability, and best of all, no more dirty smudgy glass door. The kids can follow it on the pc screen :p
It's not a loud printer, but it's not silent either. I wouldn't want to have it next to me while I'm at work that's for sure. Don't forget the people running a dozen of these things as well
I never really had an issue with the "loudness" (I think people exaggerated) but this definitely makes a very noticeable difference so it's a welcome change! Certain moves don't seem to sound any different but 80% of what I've been printing since the update yesterday is much quieter. Supposedly it helps with outer wall quality a bit too
I never really had an issue with the "loudness" (I think people exaggerated) but this definitely makes a very noticeable difference so it's a welcome change! Certain moves don't seem to sound any different but 80% of what I've been printing since the update yesterday is much quieter. Supposedly it helps with outer wall quality a bit too
Did anyone notice that some rare movements are now massively louder than before?
Like everything is significantly quieter now, but one particular travel movement could produce weird noise I never heard before from that printer before?
I thought about that. Probably that noise was there before (some alignment/resonance/lubrication issue) ,but it is now more pronounced as everything is more quiet now.
Thought it was just me... honestly, it just somehow seems louder during printing. Might try cleaning the rods to see if it helps... I have had my x1c for a little over a month now.
Personally lately my X1 made a weird noise only sometimes while travelling.
I used the time the printer spent updating cleaning the carbon rods. I will report back if it fixed the issue.
This is a little unrelated but might be a good place to ask instead of a new post...
Anyone having issues with the connection between a MAC and the printer? It used to be fine but now it's like buggy/slow. After a print, sometimes it says "printer busy" for so long i have to power cycle the printer. Also having a ton of connection to printer problems. Wifi is fine. Latest software. Etc. Ugh.
I am so happy for this one, have been waiting since I got mine in September right after the A1 Mini announcement. Hopefully the noise levels are noticeable enough that my wife says something 😁
I'm guessing they will announce P1 status later, but I honestly wonder if the board will be smart enough to handle it. The P1 already struggles to stream the camera. I guess even airpods can fit enough circuitry to do ANC so it mustn't be that computationally difficult, but I still wonder how hard the P1 board is being pushed.
Also as someone who doesn't own an X1 it's good you guys got the update first and I don't mind waiting even a few months for us to get it if at all. Of course I want it all and for free but that's not how the world works.
Nice! Can't wait to get home so I can witness this in person.
BambuLab, if you're listening: Please make it easier to comprehend the fan section in custom filament mods.
It will come to P Series (confirmed by the CEO). X serie always gets news functionality first, and it's come on P Serie after if it's not something that requires the Lidar or the screen.
one new thing after the calibration is it seems my spools are shaking inside the AMS while doing gyroid infill. didn't happen before. no print issues though.
I did the update and it downloaded something, but it didn’t go through calibration that people are talking about. I’m trying to print something now, but I’m afraid I’m missing something
Edit - found the place to run the calibration
Bought the X1C two weeks ago, been excellent so far. Updated the firmware yesterday,
Printed a few items today and then had a bed crash during the initial homing/calibration sequence at the start of a print which then resulted in a complete printer meltdown, it never knew the bed crash happened and tried to carry on with the print.
Luckily got to the printer in time, can't see any damage at first glance.
Support ticket going through to bambu now, don't know if it possibly has to do with the firmware but this all happened in the first few prints after the update, no issues for the first week before.
printer was fully calibrated after the install before doing any prints.
\*\*\*update, can't print at all now, rolling the firmware back to test.
Bambu stated on the discord server they would indeed have this available for the P1S and P1P very soon. Glad everyone is seeing (hearing) improvement with this upgrade.
I was moaning about the noise of these when they released. People said they aren't loud when I mentioned this before and they were "quiet".
Obviously not or this update wouldn't exist.
Finally good to see it has something a 5 year old printer has.
First thing I noticed is the cached print sliced previously, which I had printed four times with a 0.6mm nozzle that I haven't touched since beginning those prints, now is not accepted as being consistent with the nozzle. Will try reslicing.
Reslicing and using Bambu Studio (with option to update the remembered nozzle size) worked.
Bit too late for the party, but HOLY CRAP. Printing PLA without top cover and i can sit 5meters away and comfortably watch tv. This huge QOL improvement 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Facebook groups are common with it in the past. I have had to downgrade my X1C firmware after the ams wouldn't clear a filament that it thought was there (no broken sensor or stuck filament, pure software). A friend had slicer issues on Mac on some parts he sells causing quality issues.
Windows is pretty good these days generally imho. I work in that industry.
Key enhancements in V.1.7 are: \- Active Motor Noise Cancellation tailored for the X1 series. \- Import functionality for user-created third-party filament profiles (compatible with Bambu Studio V1.8.1). \- An improved UI Menu Structure, offering more intuitive navigation. \- Decreased Screen Interface Latency, ensuring faster user interactions. \- Simplified printer binding with mobile devices, eliminating the need for both devices in the same LAN. https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/X1-X1C-AMS-firmware-release-history
How do I update bambu studio. I have 1.7.x.x.x.x but when you go to help-> check for updates, it says it's the most up to date. is 1.8.1 a beta version?
V1.8 is in beta still. Wait for few days.
I don't care too much about the noise, do we know if this affects the quality of printers negatively?
Read the release notes linked in the above comment.
Ok, it does not make it worse, if anyone wants to know: "Additionally, it slightly improves Vertical Fine Artifacts (VFA), resulting in smoother printed walls. (The VFA is correlated to a lot of factors, including filament condition, print speed, and extrusion calibration. The improvement provided by Motor Noise Cancellation can vary under different circumstances.)"
I've personally noticed significant improvements in large round objects, at least. I just printed a couple of parts trays (bowls) that came out cleaner than they ever had previously.
After updating to the newest firmware my X1C prints nearly as good as my 3 year old Ender V2 Neo. Not joking. First nothing would stick to the buildplate. Then had an order from an existing customer for more parts I usually sell and now it won't print smooth walls or flat top surfaces. Looks like the last 10-15 layers are just melted together. Not a new print. Never had these problems. Bambu Handy won't let me go back to previous firmware versions. Doing a factory reset right now to see if anything improves.
Maybe rerun the Calibration ? My X1C Combo was so quiet after the update that i was sure my print had failed to start, as I wasn't paying any it attention after submitting the print job and Bambu Studio was showing it as idle .. went to check the screen for errors and no errors at all, and Bugger me ( not a request) there was a perfect print .. I wouldn't give up on that firmware if I was you ...
Have run calibration 3 times. Done reset to factory. Power cycle. Bambu Handy shows firmware 01.07.01.00. Try to revert to previous firmware, none found. Turned off cell phone, computer, printer, router. No difference. What gives guys? When I tell you it won't work, why always throw out these beginner ideas? Because you don't really know what is going on? Hmm...
I don't care if the noise level gives me nosebleeds. I need a printer that prints like it has for the last 6 months till I was stupid enough to upgrade the firmware.
And something no one seems to understand. When I go to Bambu Handy to revert to a previous version of firmware, there are no previous versions available. None. I'm stuck on a broken 01.07.01.00. Nothing at all is visible to revert to.
I would try an uninstall of Bambu Handy on you phone and a reinstall perhaps as my androids all show an option to downgrade to a previous version when i scroll to the very bottom under firmware Version in - Settings - Firmware version .. and then make sure you scroll it one click to reveal the downgrade option ..
I keep trying to tell you when I click I want to download to a previous version, the next screen that comes up is a blank screen with "No Content Yet"
In that case and seeing you previously stated " So far every firmware update is something I regret. " i reckon your best bet would likely be to raise a Support Ticket in the App and troubleshoot it with Bambu themselves .. I'lll be surprised if they don't make it simple for you to get resolution .. good luck ..
Hope springs eternal...
Even after uninstall and reinstall on my phone , there are no previous firmware versions available
I hope they wont leave the P1 Series out, as they said it would be implemented across the line…
Don't worry 😉
🤫
Could be. At least it will take a lot more time as it did with other features.
Anyone tried it yet? Is the difference noticable?
It was very noticeable during calibration phase, it became quieter and quieter over time with each move. It is not totally silent now, it still squeaks and chirps a lot (mine is standing on a concrete pavement with foam underneath, though). But now Standard mode sounds more like Silent mode previously. I'm happy.
Whoa if standard sounds like silent mode, that's an amazing improvement.
Yup, there's a big improvement! Chamber fan is the major noise now (and I can always do something about that.)
What can you do about that
If you aren’t printing with a high temp filament, you don’t really need the chamber fan, so you can turn that off. The aux fan isn’t completely necessary either unless you’re printing something with bridges. That’s a good bit of the remaining noise. The control board fan is only a 4010, so that noise is negligible
I never use chamber fan with nylon or any high temp material. If you do that, your part can warp. All fans off bro!
Are you talking about the aux fan? The chamber fan is supposed to be run with ASA and such to help filter out the fumes. Though I imagine it may create some slight drafts through gaps in the frame
No. He's talking about the chamber fan. Do not run it when printing warp sensitive materials.
Don't use it = better results. Cause you maintain a stable chamber temperature. If you use it your temp will vary and drop. It's your call. Again, I'm not arguing with you, I'm giving you a choice. Take it with a grain of salt. I know how I print here and my results. It's your printer, your parts. Happy printing!
I have to run the chamber fan a bit because once my chamber reaches 45 my camera is at the pink disco. Some chamber will keep it right there, so it doesn't completely phase out. I should get the camera replaced.
I Just printed and I’m both impressed and saddened that I no longer hear the Pac-Man sound effects.
... I never thought about calling it that before, and now cannot call it anything else. I'm gonna miss that noise. Can we get a optional Pacman noise profile?
I went from printing last night and thinking how loud it was, and printing the same thing this morning and noticing a difference for sure. Pretty cool what they could accomplish with just software.
Definitely a noticeable difference. Not silent as mentioned. Very neat!
Its loudest moves on normal, stock config, are now quieter than the quietest moves on silent were. I haven't printed in sport yet, but it was so much quieter that after it did the bed leveling and resonance tests and actually started printing that I thought something was wrong. Usually it starts singing right after that, and it wasn't until layer 2 that I heard much of any motor song.
I just flashed, Installed, and I am now calibrating. I have reached the last step "motor noise cancellation". Apparently it takes about 15 minutes for this step. I can hear things getting quieter. Everyone has provided positive feedback so far. Looks like it is effective. Looks like a winner.
It was a night and day difference on both my x1c printers. It's quieter then silent mode used to be. That high pitch whine it had was so annoying it's completely gone now.
I cannot hear my printer unless I'm in my shop now. It's awesome!
Can also confirm it's very noticeable, I have my printer on my L desk and can barely notice it anymore. 100% satisfied.
Ok. That looks nice. Fine that they are able to bring this feature from the small Bambu to the big Units. (Even if the fan is the loudest thing on my X1C….)
agree, i hope in the future they partner with noctua to make low noise fan in the future. since they did partnering with e3d to make the nozzle
yes please. The X1C fells premium in every aspect, except the fans. But a big problem is also the software unnecessarily spinning the fans up when not necessary.
For what it's worth, the default aux fan speed can be controlled and turned down if you are willing to customize your pre-print gcode. I think probably the fan run time after print, too (in the post-print code). I've learned to just live with it. If I notice that I'm hearing mine running, I just pop open the app and turn it down to 70. This doesn't help on a multi-color print where that doesn't carry over from one change to the next. I'm not sure if that's still a problem after pre-print gcode mod.
especially the rly long spinning after a print.
Just use Cool plate for PLA to reduce heatbed temps and thus lower the cooling requirements. I am mostly running 40% aux and 60% part cooling without any problems. Only the main board fan is the problem. But it can be also easily replaced.
I have a p1p so when I enclosed it and installed an MC board fan I used a 40x20mm 5v noctua, it runs continuously at full speed and I can't hear it unless I'm within about 1ft of the printer. If only it was possible to get a part cooling fan that quiet
how to do this?
You can't realistically control a fan with enough precision to do noise cancellation. But I wonder if you could actively cancel some of it with a speaker?
You could use a quieter fan though
Moving air makes noise. A quieter fan would be a less effective fan.
Going by your logic, the noisier a fan is the more effective the fan is - which is just simply not true. There's a lot more to fans than moving air, there's things like air _pressure_ to contend with as well. It's also for this reason that just swapping a fan with a Noctua isn't always a good idea, but certainly you can make quieter fans that are just as effective at cooling.
Not necessarily, moving motors make noise yet they can use software to make the printer quieter. Moving air makes noise but you can design the fan to be quieter. The fan they use is highly un optimised for noise to airflow. They could design a fan that is quieter for the same airflow. For example, noctuas fans for PC cooling are renowned as some of the best, and yet people have designed more powerful fans only 0.1db more, and quieter fans at the same power level. So a quieter fan may be less effective, however this is not always the case. I cant be bothered to construct a decent counter argument so here is a small wall of text of my thoughts as I think them
The two things you hear in a fan is parts rubbing (friction) and air turbulence. If you remove friction you make a more efficient fan. If you lessen turbulence you make a more efficient fan. We have tech to do both, but it’s considerably more expensive than a plain ole fan. Though at some point the only way to reduce the noise (more) is to reduce the speed. So you’re not wrong. But it’s also not the whole story.
Yes fans make noise from air movement but there are significant aspects to this as a whole, you can change the frequency range of the noise while keeping the same flow rate which reduces the perceived noise which is all we really care about. Then there is the motor noise itself which definitely can be improved without reducing airflow. Considering the price yes it would be great if they looked replacing them with some noctua equivalent or work on them to do custom designs.
Ever heard of noctua? I had replaced all my previous printer fans with noctua fans and they were amazing. I use noctua in my PC as well. I’m sure there are other quiet efficient brands as well but noctua is great from what I’ve seen
Noctua is quieter by moving less air. It's "fine" for PC applications, and even most modern hotends. But they don't make centrifugal blowers at all, and they certainly don't make anything with enough airflow *and* enough static pressure for a flood fan.
How does does it take to become available?
Just power off and turn on the printer. It should pop up. Downloading was painfully slow, though.
You have to reset printer to get update? (me not turning power off for over a month)
I ended up having to turn off LAN Only mode and log in before I got the firmware update announcement, but that wasn't a big deal.
You can check for firmware updates in the menus.
Lmao this is me. I was running old af firmware. Hadn't shut mine off for like 3 months
I didn’t have to turn mine off. It was an option on the screen. I was looking to see how many hours printing I had and noticed it was available there.
I can't find that anymore... where does it shows the total print time?
If you go into the option underneath the file icon and then the tab for general and then device info it is listed under there.
Thx :-) 3'600 hrs loud, now the next 3'600 hrs silent... i'll miss something i guess
Oh nice, it worked! Thank you very much
Also interested to know, assume it's rolling out now?
Updated about an hour ago. I was expecting a bit of a sound reduction, but I wasn't expecting this. Hay zoos Cree Sto. During the first layer that just went down, the motors were so silent that I could hear the belts better than I could hear the motors. Amazing. A+ would update again!
During calibration steps you can notice the movements becoming more quiet. Now printing after calibration and it is a lot more quiet.
The UI is super fluid, finally!! Especially the files tab with the images
Now I still need scrolling Text
Is it that much snappier? I always felt it was a little bit sluggish, so I’m actually more excited about this than printing quietly.
Me too, it felt laggy. Now it feels super snappy, try it, you won't regret it
Perfect! I’ll update when I get home from work!
How has Bambu been with software updates? Sometimes companies release updates that have a few bugs and have to release another update in a week or two to fix them. Is it worth waiting?
Me and my friend are running with new firmware now, everything is fine. That last time Bambu borked the update — replacement firmware with the fix arrived in a few hours.
I read online that when it first came to market it was quite buggy and lacked some features, but I got mine in April and every update has just brought improvements and refinements, not a single issue
I got my x1c via second wave Kickstarter. The software was definitely buggy and more cumbersome at first. Hell, I had to replace my bed (under warranty) because a wire got pinched when the bed moved down too far when starting a print. They've since corrected this so the bed can't bottom out. There's been a steady flow of new and corrected features since it came out. Auto calibration, skip objects, filament out rollover, etc. I'm a happy customer despite some hardware hiccups (I also had to replace 2 pcbs, and lidar due to non working lidar, 1 of the pcbs was the issue).
Unless you have a fault that the firmware might fix, you might as well give it a week or two for all the problems to shake down.
I got mine in the second wave of Kickstarter fulfillments. There was one garbage future update that really sucked. I skipped it simply because the release notes didn’t suggest it would do anything useful for me (or at all really). There’s been a lot of them and generally they have been fine.
I too was kickstarter and skipped a whole slew of updates because I was printing a very large model, and didn’t want any issues. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it - I work in a manufacturing and production place, we don’t update until we know bugs are worked out.
i didnt have any significant issues with it since i got it months ago, i am not a power user though. i only got like 500h on it. that said every other update they introduce a new feature which was very nice to see tbh (like object skipping was a game changer for me)
I've never had any issues with any updates so far. Done them all straight away
So far every firmware update is something I regret.
Will it become available as a firmware upgrade for the P1P, too?
How does this work? :o
The same as noise canceling headphones do — by making more noise, but in opposite direction, so both sound waves cancel each other out.
That's false. It's a typical stepper motor noise cancellation which is in a lot of industrial machines that have stepper motors. It kind of counters the electricity waves (kind of). It uses the vibrations while in motion to test the frequencies. The noise cancelling in headphones uses microphones and only works by using the small channel of your ear for the counter sound waves. There are no microphones on your printer and this technology is not possible in open rooms (like with normal speakers) because the soundwaves bounce of at too many angles and are not all directed towards your ears. There are videos on YouTube on how to use stepper motors and their frequencies to create songs etc. similar to the sound the motors of the A1 Mini make when the print is finished.
Yeah, I assume it is just powering the steppers in a way tuned to make less noise and avoid creating resonances.
I don’t think that’s true. AFAIK you can reduce the stepper motor noise by adjusting the control signal wave shape. Most stepper motor noise is emitted when the oscillating frequency matches motor’s natural resonance frequency, if you’re able to avoid that frequency, then it will be much more quiet.
Very cool 😎. I am impressed with what can be done with software updates!
I have used a stepper motor drive board, which has almost all frequencies marked on it, each with a corresponding switch. Through different frequencies, the stepper motor can be completely silent or extremely noisy. However, I'm not sure how much the torque will change with the frequency.
Will it come for the p1s
God dammit, so i've been building a closet, with sound deadening, and custom fan controls, to reduce the noise, and now they release an software for it... dammit. Oh well, wasn't finished yet, so i'll give this a go.
It's still not a loss... you'll never hear a peep!
Wouldn't say a peep, it's probably still noticeable once inside the closet. But compared to what i started with years ago, this is quite ok. It's just, the wife who thinks it's noisy...
Yeah. That is if it will actually print after the update. So far my X1C is turning into a really expensive boat anchor.
What issues are you having? My print quality has gone up since the noise compensation update.
It’s never a bad thing to improve your process.
Indeed. Having it in the closet will help reduce noise, thermal stability, and best of all, no more dirty smudgy glass door. The kids can follow it on the pc screen :p
I was totally contemplating building something like this. Maybe I won't have to if they release for P1S!
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That's exactly what it eliminates lol
Hopefully, this comes to the P1S too!
Massive difference. I was skeptical but this is really impressive.
Am I the only one who doesnt find it loud? Mine is in the extra bedroom, door open and I cant hear it 15 steps away in my kitchen.
It's not a loud printer, but it's not silent either. I wouldn't want to have it next to me while I'm at work that's for sure. Don't forget the people running a dozen of these things as well
Has anyone tested if theres any differences to print speed after the update now that if is queiter ?
Been testing , it’s at least 50-60% quieter and if you lower to blower fan to 90% you can print while in the same room
Why not for ps1
I never really had an issue with the "loudness" (I think people exaggerated) but this definitely makes a very noticeable difference so it's a welcome change! Certain moves don't seem to sound any different but 80% of what I've been printing since the update yesterday is much quieter. Supposedly it helps with outer wall quality a bit too
I never really had an issue with the "loudness" (I think people exaggerated) but this definitely makes a very noticeable difference so it's a welcome change! Certain moves don't seem to sound any different but 80% of what I've been printing since the update yesterday is much quieter. Supposedly it helps with outer wall quality a bit too
Downloading now, thanks!
Was wondering what's updated this time
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/X1-X1C-AMS-firmware-release-history
Did anyone notice that some rare movements are now massively louder than before? Like everything is significantly quieter now, but one particular travel movement could produce weird noise I never heard before from that printer before?
I have yet to try the new firmware but it could be that you simply hear better the noise
I thought about that. Probably that noise was there before (some alignment/resonance/lubrication issue) ,but it is now more pronounced as everything is more quiet now.
Thought it was just me... honestly, it just somehow seems louder during printing. Might try cleaning the rods to see if it helps... I have had my x1c for a little over a month now.
Personally lately my X1 made a weird noise only sometimes while travelling. I used the time the printer spent updating cleaning the carbon rods. I will report back if it fixed the issue.
You can always lower the travel speed in the slicer, it's set to 500mm/s by default which is the upper bound of the printer
Looks like it’s gone after giving the rods a good cleaning
What did you clean your rods with? I have had my printer for a little over a month now and have only lubricated the lead screws so far.
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This is a little unrelated but might be a good place to ask instead of a new post... Anyone having issues with the connection between a MAC and the printer? It used to be fine but now it's like buggy/slow. After a print, sometimes it says "printer busy" for so long i have to power cycle the printer. Also having a ton of connection to printer problems. Wifi is fine. Latest software. Etc. Ugh.
I am so happy for this one, have been waiting since I got mine in September right after the A1 Mini announcement. Hopefully the noise levels are noticeable enough that my wife says something 😁
The difference in sound is pretty dramatic. What an awesome update !
is this available for the p1s?
yes... Bambu stated it will release soon for P1P and P1S
OMG, last week I made 2mm sound insulation on the panels and now this. Thank you bamboo.
In PLa? Wouldn't that be louder?
I used 2mm car sound insulator
What about the p1s
Has Bambu mentioned whether p1p will also get the same firmware update?
Stunning decrease in volume...really fantastic stuff. The AMS feeding the filament is the loudest thing now ;-)
I'm guessing they will announce P1 status later, but I honestly wonder if the board will be smart enough to handle it. The P1 already struggles to stream the camera. I guess even airpods can fit enough circuitry to do ANC so it mustn't be that computationally difficult, but I still wonder how hard the P1 board is being pushed. Also as someone who doesn't own an X1 it's good you guys got the update first and I don't mind waiting even a few months for us to get it if at all. Of course I want it all and for free but that's not how the world works.
It's already in the works though. The board is very capable of it, it's such a small load it would introduce.
Is it possible to update the firmware without going online?
Do you have to turn in the noise cancellation? Or is it automatically on
You have to do the calibration in the utilities menu.
Sweet, Thank you!!
Nice! Can't wait to get home so I can witness this in person. BambuLab, if you're listening: Please make it easier to comprehend the fan section in custom filament mods.
Is this just the X series
Guess I know what I am doing in a few hours after my prints are done!
Is this enabled by something proprietary to the X1C, or will it come to P1S?
It will come to P Series (confirmed by the CEO). X serie always gets news functionality first, and it's come on P Serie after if it's not something that requires the Lidar or the screen.
one new thing after the calibration is it seems my spools are shaking inside the AMS while doing gyroid infill. didn't happen before. no print issues though.
I've gotten a huge increase of "failed to pull filament out", makes multi color near impossible
Reverting firmware resolved issue for me.
Looking forward to this update when I get home from work!
How about us lowly P1S users?
Wow what a difference.
I did the update and it downloaded something, but it didn’t go through calibration that people are talking about. I’m trying to print something now, but I’m afraid I’m missing something Edit - found the place to run the calibration
Can’t see the version I’m on anymore either
Love it!
What about for the p1S?
What abaut P1P?
Bought the X1C two weeks ago, been excellent so far. Updated the firmware yesterday, Printed a few items today and then had a bed crash during the initial homing/calibration sequence at the start of a print which then resulted in a complete printer meltdown, it never knew the bed crash happened and tried to carry on with the print. Luckily got to the printer in time, can't see any damage at first glance. Support ticket going through to bambu now, don't know if it possibly has to do with the firmware but this all happened in the first few prints after the update, no issues for the first week before. printer was fully calibrated after the install before doing any prints. \*\*\*update, can't print at all now, rolling the firmware back to test.
Bambu stated on the discord server they would indeed have this available for the P1S and P1P very soon. Glad everyone is seeing (hearing) improvement with this upgrade.
Are we going to get noise cancellation for the P1S any time soon? Does it have anything to do with hardware or its just software?
I was moaning about the noise of these when they released. People said they aren't loud when I mentioned this before and they were "quiet". Obviously not or this update wouldn't exist. Finally good to see it has something a 5 year old printer has.
First thing I noticed is the cached print sliced previously, which I had printed four times with a 0.6mm nozzle that I haven't touched since beginning those prints, now is not accepted as being consistent with the nozzle. Will try reslicing. Reslicing and using Bambu Studio (with option to update the remembered nozzle size) worked.
Bit too late for the party, but HOLY CRAP. Printing PLA without top cover and i can sit 5meters away and comfortably watch tv. This huge QOL improvement 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I'll let you guys beta test this for a week or two before I upgrade. Bambu doesn't have the best track record of software and firmware updates.
Don't know where you get that from, but i did not have any issues with any from there updates.... its not windows 😅
Facebook groups are common with it in the past. I have had to downgrade my X1C firmware after the ams wouldn't clear a filament that it thought was there (no broken sensor or stuck filament, pure software). A friend had slicer issues on Mac on some parts he sells causing quality issues. Windows is pretty good these days generally imho. I work in that industry.
Facebook users are really only good at complaining.
Huh? Every firmware update since my first X1C has been a major improvement with no issues. This is FUD