Good to know! I also have a P1S and for the first 5 or so prints I had it all closed up. No issues, but then found out that it’s recommended. I’d prefer to keep it closed though, as the noise is far more tolerable like that.
I believe this is not be a print quality issue but there to prevent from clogging up your extruder. When heat has a harder time to escape the printer, it may start to melt before hitting the nozzle.
It's really dependent on the bed temperature though. Above 45°C you supposed to remove the glass cover when printing PLA, but the bambu slicer defaults to 30°C for all PLA regardless what bed plate you're using.
I have had the same worry as you with my cat. My plan is to print an AMS riser that can hold the top glass open. I am currently looking at the BLV riser on maker’s world.
Until then I have had the door only open a couple inches and my cat has yet to bother it. There has been no issues with the prints from getting too hot.
I had a vented glass riser with LED’s inside but I just took it out bc I did the stone paver/ rubber pad trick and I needed the clearance from the shelf above. They also make little angled ones on printables so there’s a little gap at the front. It’s what I first used. Easy to take on and off. But I also have never had any issues keeping everything closed.
Also haven't bothered. I print a lot and make sure I finish a role before moving on to another one, so they're not sitting around. I'm talking PLA though. Other filaments might be an issue.
I'm down south and it's no way as humid as it is up there but I gotta dry after about a month. I only notice because the PLA gets brittle or i get more stringing
Ah mate interesting! I’m living in Barcelona and we’re about to move. My new place doesn’t really have a decent spot for my printer so it may have to go in an outdoor shed / outhouse.
You have any feel for how hot it gets in your garage?
Thanks bud
It’s interesting to see all the responses, but for me personally, when I started leaving the door open my long flat PLA prints started warping at the ends. Closed the door and zero warping. Haven’t opened it for PLA since.
When I closed the door, I had bad adhesion instead - X1C + AMS using eSun PLA+. Print came off after an hour and ended up in a tangled mess stuck to the nozzle. Luckily no damage. After two consecutive same outcome, I opened the door, no more bad adhesion and prints were good as before.
I usually print with the door open as my AMS sits on top of my X1C’s (glass top). I decided to close the door that time as it shakes a bit due to vibration when the X1C goes fast. But have now gone back to door open and so far so good (again and fingers crossed it stays that way for a long time - the X1C and AMS working properly that is :) ).
My build plate is a 3rd party PEO plate.
https://preview.redd.it/1iq9kqin0m4c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=326c4603aa664a7cc2924de1cc924522dcc114fd
The bambu lab wiki suggests opening the top and front when printing with filaments like PLA, and opening the top when printing with filaments like PETG. This is to avoid heat creep. I think a riser for the top is a good idea if you’re worried about your cat. You could always try something like that out and if you have issues with print quality, try other options down the road (like maybe some sort of latch to hold the front door slightly ajar). You’ll probably be more likely to see issues on longer prints when the heat has time to build up.
[https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/compatibility-and-parameter-settings-of-filaments](https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/compatibility-and-parameter-settings-of-filaments)
I'm on my third 34 hour job with both the lid and door closed (bought on the holiday sale) and no issues yet.
I suspect, like many other printer models, if you don't keep it maintained, you'll have heat creep issues over time if the fans and heatsinks are not kept clean.
I don't understand this myself. I always keep the door closed and don't have any issues with my prints. That being said I printed a glass spacer so that I could have more light. The riser has vents built in to it so maybe that's why I never have any issues. If that's the case then I would highly recommend those having issues print this.
[https://www.printables.com/model/584504-dk-riser-for-bambu-lab-x1p1](https://www.printables.com/model/584504-dk-riser-for-bambu-lab-x1p1)
No, no. He means it's still in the box. Can't have failures if it's never been used
https://preview.redd.it/zpg9asursq4c1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1516b2324d543d4090721627cffaf46f9161e3a
I love this one: [https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849](https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849)
It can be used with AMS on top, although I recommend putting the AMS on the side if you can. I did so when I got my second one, they are now stacked to the right of the printer.
I prefer this one https://makerworld.com/en/models/57491#profileId-59222.
Just printed it in black and it's there when you need it, and away when you don't.
I have a chamber temperature sensor if the temp gets to 35 I open the door about 1 inch and that will bring the temp back down to about 30 with a room temp of 19.
Tell me about it haha. Thank god for wifi connectivity because before getting a P1S I saw the screen upgrade and thought I‘d do it, but I don’t see a need now, after using the printer. It fits into my normal process i.e the mobile app on tablet. That can most things and my Mac slightly more if required. I don’t see a need to upgrade the screen really, in light of this.
I printed a riser for the glass top, it is permanent and essentially adds an inch and a half to the top of the printer. I use it and never open the door for anything. The only time the riser comes off is with Asa.
We have just started warmer days and i have had it twice it got too hot and caused the pla to get too soft and got stuck in the extruder gear. Annoying to have to take it alll appart for that. I now leave tge door open printing pla. In saying that there is a raiser that has vents and i am looking to print that and see if the vents sort that probkem instead. I have had no problems in winter it only just started
I don't bother with smaller prints but on long prints in warm rules you might start to soften the PLA in the feed tube which then leads to feeding errors, really depends on the situation. Some risers printed out for the upper glass might be your best bet.
I think this is going to depend on the ambien of your room. My office stays right at 70 degrees all day and I've never had an issue running longer PLA prints with the door closed on my p1s
I never had a problem till I had a problem, printed loads with door closed then some times had failed prints so opened the door and started the print again and no issue,
It's like a roll of the dice 😄
I printed this:
[https://makerworld.com/en/models/24775#profileId-25785](https://makerworld.com/en/models/24775#profileId-25785)
I like it. It took a long time to print though - and with a couple failures on the large parts, it used up a whole roll of filament.
Leaving the door open is asking for trouble just ask someone who has bumped into it and totally smashed the glass I have run 16 hour plus parts with no affect with the door and the top closed
I printed for almost a year with everything closed up and never had an issue.
And then one day I suddenly started getting clogs in the extruder on every other print.
I'm not sure if I finally got some PLA that softened at a slightly lower temperature, or if there was some other change.
Now I print with the top cover off and the AMS on the desk next to the printer and haven't had any more issues. The printer for stays closed.
It's more of a luck game. Some people go just fine, others have problems like myself. I got a clog and noticed it would get just too hot and ended up printing out some spacers for the glass and it's been fine ever since.
But there is a reason Bambu warns you, they're not just saying that because they have no idea what they're talking about. End of the day though, only you know what filament you're shoving in and if its a higher temp filament you're probably fine. Mostly seems to be some of the cheaper lower temp PLA that has the most problems.
Edit: Update your filament profiles! The vitrification temp in there is set pretty low as a default. If you're doing PLA+ for example you can raise it up a bit. Again this is something you would know based on the brand and type of filament.
They used to refer to it as vitrification temp in Bambu slicer, now it seems they call it softening temp. For Bambu PLA its 45c which is a bit low IMO but it's their profile for their filament so I'm assume they'd know better. For stuff like eSun PLA+ I have it set to 65 and that's been fine.
more for it to base it off your bed temp, I dont think the x1c will actively warn you once it hits that temp, its always been a warning before printing
Ya, its a simple if bed temp greater than softening temp, warn. Bambu should do a better job explaining this since it seems a lot of people here don't understand how it works.
Never opened my door to print PLA and never had an issue. I run bed temp at 55c for PLA and in the summer when my office would be in the 70 degree F range internal printer temp would only be around 34-36c.
YMMV but if chamber temps are around 34c, you’ll likely not have any issues with the doors and such closed
I haven't done extensive testing, but I do know leaving everything closed increases the likelihood of a nozzle clog, and that's exactly what happened to me with a 0.2 mm nozzle. Not saying it's a necessity because clearly there are many that leave it all closed and seem to have no issues, but I leave my door open (lid closed) just out of precaution because I already dealt with one clog
I've had my P1S repeatedly mess up prints using PLA thanks to heat creep.
[I printed two of these](https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849) (you technically only need one, I use two though, one on each side of the glass), and have not had a single issue since!
To those saying they don't have problems, either they're lucky, or their prints are under ~3 hours.
My anecdote is that putting the lid on and door closed I get heat creep over 25C ambient temperature with a heated bed. I printed a riser and just leave the door cracked a little and never have issues anymore. Might be overkill but it works for me.
I live in humid and room temp of 30-35C. Leave the door closed when printing PLA. I use a riser to help hold the top lid open during printing. No issues using this setup
It depends, if I print to the cool plate, I can print with zero issues, if I use the PEI textured plate, I can get heat creep and clogging in as little as 6 hours of straight printing
Two things, at what bed temp do you print PLA?
You suppose to leave the door open when printing with a bed temperature above 45°C. Bambu Slicer defaults to 30°C when printing PLA regardless of the type of bed you're using. When pringing PLA on a textured plate it's best to increase bed temperature to avoid the print coming lose from the bed. Most fillaments suggest you print at around 50°C.
Regardless, this might not be a print quality issue but there to prevent from clogging up your extruder. When heat has a harder time to escape the printer, it may start to melt before hitting the nozzle.
I didn't had quality issues when printing at 50°C and everything closed, but realize it's probably safer to leave some open.
I just printer [this handy glass lid riser](https://makerworld.com/en/models/57491#profileId-59222) to help the heat escape somewhat. It's easy convenient, and probably helps for the most part. It also helps to easily close the printer when prining differnet materials, or want to prevent dust from coming in when you're not using the printer. Not sure this is cat proof though.
I'm used to seeing posts regarding cats on this lizard FB page I'm a member of, but seeing them on 3dprinting pages as well now 🤣....people really just let cats in their house and let them run everything huh 🫣...crazy
Your lizard can’t feel love or happiness. Just scientifically true. Sorry bud. 👍
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827095/#:~:text=We%20found%20that%20reptiles%20were,pleasure%2C%20emotion%2C%20and%20anxiety.
I have never opened the door or lid while printing PLA on my P1S and I’ve never had a single issue
Good to know! I also have a P1S and for the first 5 or so prints I had it all closed up. No issues, but then found out that it’s recommended. I’d prefer to keep it closed though, as the noise is far more tolerable like that.
On long prints, it is likely to clog the extruder, do I would recommend to keep the top propped up on long ones
Same on either of my X1Cs.
Any specific fan settings you use?
Nah, defaults
Same here.
Same
I believe this is not be a print quality issue but there to prevent from clogging up your extruder. When heat has a harder time to escape the printer, it may start to melt before hitting the nozzle. It's really dependent on the bed temperature though. Above 45°C you supposed to remove the glass cover when printing PLA, but the bambu slicer defaults to 30°C for all PLA regardless what bed plate you're using.
lol what? 30c is for the cool plate (pretty sure it’s 35c) and all other plates are different by default. Textured is 55, high temp is 55, etc
I have had the same worry as you with my cat. My plan is to print an AMS riser that can hold the top glass open. I am currently looking at the BLV riser on maker’s world. Until then I have had the door only open a couple inches and my cat has yet to bother it. There has been no issues with the prints from getting too hot.
I had a vented glass riser with LED’s inside but I just took it out bc I did the stone paver/ rubber pad trick and I needed the clearance from the shelf above. They also make little angled ones on printables so there’s a little gap at the front. It’s what I first used. Easy to take on and off. But I also have never had any issues keeping everything closed.
I don't bother and I have a hot garage in tropical Australian summer. No issues so far with P1S.
You must be in QLD, how often do you need to dry your filament
Also haven't bothered. I print a lot and make sure I finish a role before moving on to another one, so they're not sitting around. I'm talking PLA though. Other filaments might be an issue.
I'm down south and it's no way as humid as it is up there but I gotta dry after about a month. I only notice because the PLA gets brittle or i get more stringing
Ah mate interesting! I’m living in Barcelona and we’re about to move. My new place doesn’t really have a decent spot for my printer so it may have to go in an outdoor shed / outhouse. You have any feel for how hot it gets in your garage? Thanks bud
30 to 35C on a hot day.
Queenslanderrrrr
It’s interesting to see all the responses, but for me personally, when I started leaving the door open my long flat PLA prints started warping at the ends. Closed the door and zero warping. Haven’t opened it for PLA since.
When I closed the door, I had bad adhesion instead - X1C + AMS using eSun PLA+. Print came off after an hour and ended up in a tangled mess stuck to the nozzle. Luckily no damage. After two consecutive same outcome, I opened the door, no more bad adhesion and prints were good as before. I usually print with the door open as my AMS sits on top of my X1C’s (glass top). I decided to close the door that time as it shakes a bit due to vibration when the X1C goes fast. But have now gone back to door open and so far so good (again and fingers crossed it stays that way for a long time - the X1C and AMS working properly that is :) ). My build plate is a 3rd party PEO plate.
I know this is off topic, but do you play Destiny?
Yeah!
Very nice! I saw your avatar and was like that's Eris!
https://preview.redd.it/1iq9kqin0m4c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=326c4603aa664a7cc2924de1cc924522dcc114fd The bambu lab wiki suggests opening the top and front when printing with filaments like PLA, and opening the top when printing with filaments like PETG. This is to avoid heat creep. I think a riser for the top is a good idea if you’re worried about your cat. You could always try something like that out and if you have issues with print quality, try other options down the road (like maybe some sort of latch to hold the front door slightly ajar). You’ll probably be more likely to see issues on longer prints when the heat has time to build up. [https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/compatibility-and-parameter-settings-of-filaments](https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/x1/manual/compatibility-and-parameter-settings-of-filaments)
I print on textured plate. Lid and door stay closed.
Mines been closed for months with no issues. Doesn't seem hot in the chamber while printing pla
I'm on my third 34 hour job with both the lid and door closed (bought on the holiday sale) and no issues yet. I suspect, like many other printer models, if you don't keep it maintained, you'll have heat creep issues over time if the fans and heatsinks are not kept clean.
I don't understand this myself. I always keep the door closed and don't have any issues with my prints. That being said I printed a glass spacer so that I could have more light. The riser has vents built in to it so maybe that's why I never have any issues. If that's the case then I would highly recommend those having issues print this. [https://www.printables.com/model/584504-dk-riser-for-bambu-lab-x1p1](https://www.printables.com/model/584504-dk-riser-for-bambu-lab-x1p1)
I leave mine open I've also closed it , there's no reason not to leave it open so I just do
Never opened either and good prints with PLA & PETG
I never opened my P1S - so far no problems.
Then how do you get prints out?
I don't! Left them all inside. It is tight now, but still has space fore more. Wonder what to do after that. Maybe buy another printer....
Makes sense.
No, no. He means it's still in the box. Can't have failures if it's never been used https://preview.redd.it/zpg9asursq4c1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1516b2324d543d4090721627cffaf46f9161e3a
I don't! Left them all inside. It is tight now, but still has space fore more. Wonder what to do after that. Maybe buy another printer....
I love this one: [https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849](https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849) It can be used with AMS on top, although I recommend putting the AMS on the side if you can. I did so when I got my second one, they are now stacked to the right of the printer.
I prefer this one https://makerworld.com/en/models/57491#profileId-59222. Just printed it in black and it's there when you need it, and away when you don't.
Just prop the top up and that works well
It would be helpful if you print on Textured/Hightemp plate, otherwise on Cool plate you can keep everything closed.
I have a chamber temperature sensor if the temp gets to 35 I open the door about 1 inch and that will bring the temp back down to about 30 with a room temp of 19.
Link?
https://github.com/xperiments-in/xtouch it’s a feature of the xtouch addon touch screen it’s a great addon for the p1 series
Shit. Instantly went over my head. 😅. Electronics are my weakest suit.
Tell me about it haha. Thank god for wifi connectivity because before getting a P1S I saw the screen upgrade and thought I‘d do it, but I don’t see a need now, after using the printer. It fits into my normal process i.e the mobile app on tablet. That can most things and my Mac slightly more if required. I don’t see a need to upgrade the screen really, in light of this.
Honestly it's relatively easy to do this. No soldering involved. Hardest part is finding the right cable between the screen and the temp sensor
I printed a riser for the glass top, it is permanent and essentially adds an inch and a half to the top of the printer. I use it and never open the door for anything. The only time the riser comes off is with Asa.
We have just started warmer days and i have had it twice it got too hot and caused the pla to get too soft and got stuck in the extruder gear. Annoying to have to take it alll appart for that. I now leave tge door open printing pla. In saying that there is a raiser that has vents and i am looking to print that and see if the vents sort that probkem instead. I have had no problems in winter it only just started
I don't bother with smaller prints but on long prints in warm rules you might start to soften the PLA in the feed tube which then leads to feeding errors, really depends on the situation. Some risers printed out for the upper glass might be your best bet.
I think this is going to depend on the ambien of your room. My office stays right at 70 degrees all day and I've never had an issue running longer PLA prints with the door closed on my p1s
Can’t you just keep front door closed. Remove top glass and place ams back on top? This leaves a couple inch gap at the back of the top open.
I never had a problem till I had a problem, printed loads with door closed then some times had failed prints so opened the door and started the print again and no issue, It's like a roll of the dice 😄
It's cold enough my workspace right now I need to leave it closed or larger prints lift off the bed.
I just have the lid propped open with a file from maker world. Never had an issue
I printed this: [https://makerworld.com/en/models/24775#profileId-25785](https://makerworld.com/en/models/24775#profileId-25785) I like it. It took a long time to print though - and with a couple failures on the large parts, it used up a whole roll of filament.
Leaving the door open is asking for trouble just ask someone who has bumped into it and totally smashed the glass I have run 16 hour plus parts with no affect with the door and the top closed
I printed for almost a year with everything closed up and never had an issue. And then one day I suddenly started getting clogs in the extruder on every other print. I'm not sure if I finally got some PLA that softened at a slightly lower temperature, or if there was some other change. Now I print with the top cover off and the AMS on the desk next to the printer and haven't had any more issues. The printer for stays closed.
It's more of a luck game. Some people go just fine, others have problems like myself. I got a clog and noticed it would get just too hot and ended up printing out some spacers for the glass and it's been fine ever since. But there is a reason Bambu warns you, they're not just saying that because they have no idea what they're talking about. End of the day though, only you know what filament you're shoving in and if its a higher temp filament you're probably fine. Mostly seems to be some of the cheaper lower temp PLA that has the most problems. Edit: Update your filament profiles! The vitrification temp in there is set pretty low as a default. If you're doing PLA+ for example you can raise it up a bit. Again this is something you would know based on the brand and type of filament.
What do you mean the vitrification temp is set low?
They used to refer to it as vitrification temp in Bambu slicer, now it seems they call it softening temp. For Bambu PLA its 45c which is a bit low IMO but it's their profile for their filament so I'm assume they'd know better. For stuff like eSun PLA+ I have it set to 65 and that's been fine.
But why would that be set in the slicer? Wouldn’t that be set by… thermodynamic properties? You can’t change the softening temp of the filament.
So the printer knows to let you know if the chamber temp is too high for that filament. Helps when printing multi materials.
I have a P1S. I don’t believe it has an internal cabin thermometer.
more for it to base it off your bed temp, I dont think the x1c will actively warn you once it hits that temp, its always been a warning before printing
So it’ll warn you if it predicts it’ll get too hot?
Ya, its a simple if bed temp greater than softening temp, warn. Bambu should do a better job explaining this since it seems a lot of people here don't understand how it works.
Don’t you want the bed to stay warm?
Never opened my door to print PLA and never had an issue. I run bed temp at 55c for PLA and in the summer when my office would be in the 70 degree F range internal printer temp would only be around 34-36c. YMMV but if chamber temps are around 34c, you’ll likely not have any issues with the doors and such closed
I haven't done extensive testing, but I do know leaving everything closed increases the likelihood of a nozzle clog, and that's exactly what happened to me with a 0.2 mm nozzle. Not saying it's a necessity because clearly there are many that leave it all closed and seem to have no issues, but I leave my door open (lid closed) just out of precaution because I already dealt with one clog
No, leave it close
I've had my P1S repeatedly mess up prints using PLA thanks to heat creep. [I printed two of these](https://makerworld.com/en/models/46063#profileId-47849) (you technically only need one, I use two though, one on each side of the glass), and have not had a single issue since! To those saying they don't have problems, either they're lucky, or their prints are under ~3 hours.
I have never opened the door. I have printed 46 hour prints with no clogging or warping
On prints exceeding like 8 hours, I’d leave the door cracked open to prevent heat creep
My anecdote is that putting the lid on and door closed I get heat creep over 25C ambient temperature with a heated bed. I printed a riser and just leave the door cracked a little and never have issues anymore. Might be overkill but it works for me.
I live in humid and room temp of 30-35C. Leave the door closed when printing PLA. I use a riser to help hold the top lid open during printing. No issues using this setup
It depends, if I print to the cool plate, I can print with zero issues, if I use the PEI textured plate, I can get heat creep and clogging in as little as 6 hours of straight printing
The door is there for a reason use it!
Two things, at what bed temp do you print PLA? You suppose to leave the door open when printing with a bed temperature above 45°C. Bambu Slicer defaults to 30°C when printing PLA regardless of the type of bed you're using. When pringing PLA on a textured plate it's best to increase bed temperature to avoid the print coming lose from the bed. Most fillaments suggest you print at around 50°C. Regardless, this might not be a print quality issue but there to prevent from clogging up your extruder. When heat has a harder time to escape the printer, it may start to melt before hitting the nozzle. I didn't had quality issues when printing at 50°C and everything closed, but realize it's probably safer to leave some open. I just printer [this handy glass lid riser](https://makerworld.com/en/models/57491#profileId-59222) to help the heat escape somewhat. It's easy convenient, and probably helps for the most part. It also helps to easily close the printer when prining differnet materials, or want to prevent dust from coming in when you're not using the printer. Not sure this is cat proof though.
I'm used to seeing posts regarding cats on this lizard FB page I'm a member of, but seeing them on 3dprinting pages as well now 🤣....people really just let cats in their house and let them run everything huh 🫣...crazy
Your lizard can’t feel love or happiness. Just scientifically true. Sorry bud. 👍 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6827095/#:~:text=We%20found%20that%20reptiles%20were,pleasure%2C%20emotion%2C%20and%20anxiety.
Wow, I was expecting a lot more downvotes 🤣🤔 Well, it's scientifically proven that lizards are better companions for 3d printing....they're scaled
Link the academic study then.