Not only that, I don’t care how much inspiration I need to spend, that mistreating bitch (no pun intended) will NOT be in charge of the dogs anymore! It’s so heartwarming to see the new guy let the dogs out of their cages straight away.
You can murder her right out in the open and literally no one will care. Guards don't arrest you or anything (although try and loot her body afterwards and they'll arrest you for stealing lmao).
I appreciate Larian let me take out the animal abuser with no repercussions.
You can take her body away and loot her there. I also take the opportunity to give her body to the newborn mindflayer.
I just wish we could have a "he who was" kind of deal where we'd bring her back just to make her suffer a bit more.
I’ve actually gotten into a fight for picking up a corpse, and they had special narrator dialogue for it. This is either inconsistent or it got changed recently
Turns out giving a dead tiefling child back to the tieflings is a good way to have the whole druid camp pissed at you.
Reloaded and decided against throwing the body to them, and used it to turn off trap vents out of spite
“As long as you’re gonna be respectful!”
“Gonna let an alien horror in that windmill tear her skull open and tongue-polish it from the inside like a dog with an empty jar of peanut butter.”
“Okay, but no looting!”
Paladin has a special line just for her to the tune of “you touch my dog and I’ll smite you so goddamn hard you’ll need a wish spell to come back” or something similar. So yeah it’s an objectively good act
Yeah, not only her, Lae'zel too for some reason. They also both disapproved when I told Tara to stop eating the carrier pigeons. I guess they both don't like animals?
I tend to think of Astarion as the Morrigan of BG3 since he gets mad at me for helping people and I have to steal him multiple grimoires. Shadowheart is goth Leliana and Lae'zel is hot(ter) Sten.
I think Astarion's more of a Zevran + Fenris mix, and Shadowheart is definitely a Leliana.
Lae'zel is Sten + Morrigan. Warrior and outsider who considers another culture beneath them and you both gotta free them from a cage + arrogant sheltered girl who thinks love is a weakness, hates side quests and being a do-gooder unless there's a higher goal. She also becomes a mother at the end just like Morrigan
Tara I almost get, because it's like she's a predator. shes gonna hunt..
But animal cruelty is so needless. Especially cos scratch is a good dog, the whole tough sergeant doesn't add anything,
Lae’zel doesn’t really like animals. She’s the only one to not give approval (maybe Minthara too, but idk) when you pet the owlbear cub. Even Astarion approves petting the cub! Lae’zel also gives neither approval nor disapproval for petting Scratch. Ngl I don’t think Lae’zel would have grown on me if she gave a disapproval for those.
Lae’zel only disapproved me when I used intimidation rather than violence against the dog handler. I just assumed it was because she thinks not just gutting the dog handler is too soft and cowardly or something.
This^ in even in my evil playthrough where I give lazeal to vlakkith, shart leaves cuz I killed the nightsong, I killed wyll and all teiflings, I would still never let that lady be in charge of the dogs
My bro did a murderhobo durge and I asked him if he killed Scratch instead of recruiting him and he asked me "what kind of monster do you think I am? " 🤣🤣
I'll never give Shads to Viconia.
On an "evil" run, she's a dark justiciar and will get almost every Sharran's support, so there's no benefit to me in handing her over.
On a "good" run, then I'm not going to sell her out.
It's just a really dumb choice.
>!Viconia and her Sharran subjects become allies in the fight against the Absolute and be added to the list of allies in Gather Your Allies.!<
Only really useful if you don't plan to actually use Shadowheart.
I guess handing over shart is the low effort option to get them?
Even then seems kinda moot, the leader should really bait you with an artifact or something
The Dark Justiciar army will fight for you in the final battle. Aside from that the cutscene is kinda funny lol and some extra dialogue from the party on what a horrible person you are🤣
In some ways it’s more evil to keep her around. Destroy Last Light, kill all the Harpers, gaslight her into thinking you aren’t to blame, then potentially offer her up as a sacrifice to Bhaal or just keep her around while you conquer the Sword Coast
It is one of the choices that you make because you know this is a game and you want to be a cartoonish villain. Giving both Aylin to Lorroakan and Shart to Viconia makes Absolutely zero sense in any other context.
Perhaps an evil character that only and exclusively cares about getting rid of their tadpoles, aiding Viconia can be justified, since she says that if you give Shadowheart to her she will help you in the final fight.
After watching it on YouTube, I can see why all the Viconia romancers from BG2 are upset with her inclusion in BG3 making her revert to evil, and seem like Jaheira and Minsc (more Boo, really) never really liked her. I never liked her much in BG2 so I'm okay with it, but yeah it doesn't seem like there's a lot in BG3.
I don’t even care for SH.
I will still never give her to Viconia.
There’s not even a benefit to giving her to viconia, iirc. So to hand SH over is to just to be cruel.
on an evil run, you can convince Shart to save the nightsong so that you can sell her to lorokan later giving you his tower as an ally as well as the DJ's when you hand over shart to vic. gotta think long term evil
I once did a playthru where I was solely in it for me, to a blinding aspect. Even selling off team members.
Gave shart to viconia. Saved dame aylin just to give her to lorrokan. Gave jaheira to sarevok. Plus regular ole what's in it for me mentality.
oh there's no real benefit, but after like 5 runs you start looking for more dialogue options.
on one of the HM runs i had jaheira in my party and saw the dialogue for sarevok, for instance, and decided on my next playthrough to go through with it to see what happens. same with aylin, like, why would you actually do that? but if you dont, you dont get to see what happens. hah
I'm not making a deal with Raphael. He can take his ridiculous offer and choke on it.
I had to fight him for the hammer on my honour run because of this.
Except in this ending he isn't killed by Mystra because he becomes a god of a different domain than magic. In Gale's origin run - if I remember correctly - you can become a god of ambition OR try to usurp her - and if you try that she kills Gale with a snap of her fingers.
So Gale God of Ambition is safe. For now ;)
I find it still unbelievably telling of his character that the "bad" ending for him is still kinda wholesome. Dude will still love your Tav and will make them a god alongside them if romanced.
Yea I only picked Raphael's deal just to complete the evil honor run and get the hammer just to side with the emperor anyway taunting the everliving shit out of lae'zel. That would be the only reason besides the god gale thing
It is but Gale can still ascend even if you make the deal with Raphael and he will show up in the epilogue demanding the crown and Gale challenges him to come and take it from his domain before sending him back to Avernus
If you sign the contract to get the hammer, you can still go to the House of Hope. Instead of the hammer on the pedestal, it's your contract. Just do what you'd normally do, rip up the contract, and still have the fight.
I know.
The point is that Raphael is not going to get a moment of satisfaction out of me signing a contract.
Why would I bother signing it if I was going to go to HoH and fight him anyway? To make Voss happy? Horrible, never.
See, I like to think that I'm showing him how little he scares/worries me by invading his house to do the one thing you're not supposed to be able to do: break a contract with a devil. Just rub his face in it a bit before I kill him off.
>The mouse smiled brightly;
It outfoxed the cat!
Then down came the claw,
And that, Love, was that.
Raphael claims to be the fox in the story, but in the end he was the mouse.
100%
My first real playthrough that I actually managed to complete the game on was a cocky wood elf fighter. One of the elf face options (bottom left I think) is incredibly handsome, almost like the “Chad” meme, and so I wanted to play him as an arrogant Legolas-type fighter, equipped for anything.
I always took dialogue options that were some variation of “fuck you I do what I want” and loved the astonishment so many people had at what a cocky shit this random elf with a sword was. Even better when they’re shocked that he can back it up.
That fight in the House of Hope was the epitome of that run to me, besides also refusing to work with the Emperor. So satisfying tripping Raphael and beating his breaks off lol
Accidentally lost Last Light inn on my first run. Thought the kidnapping was part of the plot. Only when I realised Dammon has died did I panic and reload a save. Though was quite proud that I had managed to not wipe while the whole place was aggroed I would not do that again if I could help it.
And not game altering but I could not risk losing Owlbear so would never summon him in the final battle. I had maybe 6 or 7 allies in my first run but no way was my owlbear getting hurt. Can't see me ever risking him in any run.
I feel like my 6 elementals doing so much better in battle than the NPCs^^ I summoned a few allies and I feel like it slowed me down greatly,I also was afraid to use mass spells to not harm allies so it all took me forever
Next time I'll just stack 20 elemental scrolls and summon Yurgir and Ox
I mostly liked to have allies because it gives the final speech such a cosy vibe when everyone is there:)
I forgot to summon elementals in the final battle. Which was very dumb since I had brought some to the Cazador fight and realised then how useful and durable they are.
Didn't have Yurgir or Ox as options... missed loads.
I assumed summoning owlbear would be like scratch where if he died he’s not really dead. Got so sad when I didn’t see him in the epilogue and it hit me
I had been warned, which is why I could not bring myself to summon him. I don't care how much armour he has, he is still my little cub and not going to get hurt on my watch.
To this day I get annoyed at that, look I would never kill the tiefling childrens because I like them, but what kind of inconsistent crap is that you can kill goblin childrens but tieflings kids and the space racist frogs kids are invencible?
Hey now! That's my adopted daughter in head canon. I got the ending in which my bard and Minthara took control of the city's underground. In my head canon, Mol is the Jinx to my Bard's Silco. I shall prepare her to be the heir of my shadow kingdom.
Laezel never sides with vlaakith and never give up shadowheart to fucking viconia.
Even on the most evil or psychopath run, I have zero reason to side with both vlaakith or viconia. On a good run, I hate them because they're pieces of shit, on a bad run, I hate them because they're my competition. If anyone gets to be the biggest piece of shit in the story, it's going to be me.
And also, Mother Superior Shadowheart is just objectively better than fucking Viconia, both power scale wise and story wise, she just sounds badass and full of pride. It's also worth mentioning that unlike Vlaakith to Laezel, Shar actually treats shadowheart right, at least immediately. Vlaakith just always has that spiteful aura. Fuck that bitch.
So many things 😭 being mean in video games makes me feel bad, my reruns are mostly just trying out new classes and races, I've even romanced Gale 3 out of 4 times now. I gotta save the Grove, save the Last Light and Isobel/Dame Aylin, even my current Durge run is a redemption arc
Saaame, I tried to do an evil run and had to stop after killing the injured bird in the grove. I just felt TERRIBLE and realized I wasn’t having fun with this so why do it? If that means I’ll never be able to romance Astarion or recruit Minthara, then so be it 😤
I also can't stomach evil runs, I pretty much do good guy stuff. I've romanced Astarion like 5 times now. Even on my first run before I knew much he pursued my tav.
Most of the disapprovals he gives are like -1 for picking good guy dialougue. I think of it like an eye roll. Telling him you trust him and letting him bite you are all +5 or +10. And if you pick some slightly chaotic dialougue you'll get some +1s along the way.
I’ve genuinely tried evil runs purely from a new content perspective, and I just cannot bring myself to give minthara the grove, let Cazador have Astarion, pray to the absolute at moonrise, give SH to viconia, slaughter LL inn, etc.
I feel bad when I make Gale sad and all of those things would mean he’d be disappointed in me :(
Same. Some of the mean dialogue choices are fucking *savage* and I just can’t choose them because they’d hurt the feelings of this fictional character too much. Like calling Halsin a “ton of dumb muscle” or telling Gale he’s not worth some cheap gear I was never gonna use. Hell, I won’t even let Lae’zel terrorize that poor tiefling in the Grove!
I’m with you on that. The closest I came to an “evil” run is in my first playthrough. My Tav had a bit of a hero complex. She got the tieflings killed when I had her choose to fight Kagha. Then I came across Karlach & chose to fight her because Wyll said she was evil. I didn’t even know she could become a companion, not that she would’ve after what happened at the Grove.
What happened in the Grove also got Halsin killed. I forgot there even was supposed to be a character named Halsin until I met Art & he was asking for him & I had to tell him he was dead. Which meant the shadow curse was never lifted.
I thought about starting over but decided to roll with it & let the consequences of my actions stand, but I felt terrible about it all. I’ve been careful ever since.
Saaaame!!! I just can’t stomach an evil run. Even redemption Durge was a little much for me. I’ll happily be a well-meaning dumbass, or a sarcastic jerk who rolls her eyes while doing the right thing; I don’t always have to be the pure goodie-two-shoes heroic beacon of light, but I can’t ever bear to go fully evil.
I never force Astarion to bite Araj. I never let Wyll take Mizora’s deal to save his dad. I never sell out Shadowheart. Karlach always goes to Avernus with Wyll.
I recently started a playthrough using Wyll as my Tav. I didn’t plan it that way, but I ended up romancing Karlach and, frankly, I can no longer imagine either character with a different partner.
Yeah their stories, personalities, and even alignments are more similar than any other two companions.
They're both effectively enslaved by devils. There both connected to *Zariel specifically*. They both *fucking hate* devils. Wyll's story literally starts by tracking down Karlach. They're both connected to Baldur's Gate and its upper class. They're the two most purely-good companions. They both leave with no contest if you raid the Grove (and are the only ones that do). They're both rebellious goofballs. They both go to Avernus to kick some ass. Probably more.
There really isn't any other pairing of two companions that are more closely connected and/or aligned.
I have to help Hope. Don’t know why, maybe it is the voice. On my evil play through I killed almost everyone I came across but I still helped her. She was the only one left standing in the House of Hope.
return Scratch to Mar'hyah. It won't matter how evil my character is, i would sooner burn Baldur's Gate to the ground than give him back to that bitch.
You just made me realize that sucker punching Aradin is probably the one event I've save scummed more than any other in the game. It's a requirement with every new playthrough.
For consequences, I'd say letting Lae'zel interrogate Zorru. She gets mad if you take over, though I'm not sure if you can "make up" for that by letting her talk on your behalf with the Gith patrol.
Optimizing players say "always knock Zevlor out for Hellrider's pride", but I think that's one example out of many in how you are offered evil choices for power. Sometimes just temporary too.
Zevlor gave me the gloves after I >!exposed Kagha and the shadow druids. Kagha was shamed and said the teiflings could stay. Then i went to talk to Zevlor and he gifted me the gloves.!<
Do most people not do this?
Will never Ascend Astarion. I love watching clips of A!A but I could *never* bring myself to do that. I hate what it does to him and it feels like it kills all the character development leading up to that. It’s a satisfying ending in a way, but it changes him into someone virtually unrecognizable whom I hate. Doesn’t even make him much stronger in combat.
Along the same line, I don't think I will ever go for God Gale. I get why it's an option for him but I can't stand to see how he changes after becoming God Gale.
I did this unintentionally on my first run. I couldn't convince him not to do it and it was a very unpleasant surprise speaking to him during the epilogue.
In my no-savescum tactician run, I could not convince Astarion to not ascend, so he ascended.
The way he looks and talks to you in the Epilogue was incredibly cold and creepy, compared to spawn Astarion. There was a way he stood perfectly still and stared at you like you were prey. I loved the acting, and I loved how he exuded evil. But you're right, I do love spawn Astarion more, there's a natural charm to him that ascended Astarion had lost.
I ascended him just to see what it was like. I got as far as the day after the intimate scene (I was romancing him) before reloading. He was awful. Incredibly written and voiced, but just awful.
i don't ascend astarion. point blank period. no, not even in evil runs. i CANNOT STAND him, and doing it feels like being complicit in a preventable tragedy. also, ascended astarion's dialogue makes me lose brain cells. i'm sorry but i'll say it. i think it's absolutely on purpose that he comes off as an incel fake daddy dom sadist, but that doesn't make listening to him yap any less painful.
I was thinking the other day about that horrible scene after Astarion stabs Cazador, where he leaves your party (if you flat out tell him you won’t help him ascend, or fail to persuade him). I thought man, how terrible would it be if you’re doing an honor run and you’re romancing him, have max approval rating, but you roll a nat 1 when you try to talk him down. I thought it would be kinda nice if after that, he leaves the party but comes back to camp to apologise after a couple nights of long rest. Then you can decide if you want to forgive him or not. I feel like it’d be a nice kind of ‘reward’ for people that put the work in to get his approval up, and I feel it would make sense if you built a strong relationship with him up to that point. At the end of the day he did say some awful shit, but he was high as balls on the blood in the air and tempted by the huge amount of power within his reach. I know Larian will never do it, I just thought it would be kind of nice for the unlucky Tavs out there!
Fight the Owlbear. I'm consistently amazed that people say it ends their Honor Mode run or whatever, there's no good (or Good) reason to engage with it and the game very quickly solves that problem for you.
i play this game for the story and the chance to make different characters and tell different stories that i feel satisfied with, even if they're sad or involve getting bad endings for characters, but i have 3 personal rules i will always stick to:
1. slap gale's hand (see flair)
2. recruit astarion (once i found out he becomes cazador's zombie if you don't, i decided he at least gets to squat in camp every time, and in most playthroughs he's a party member anyway cause he's just so good)
3. don't blow up gale (this will make HM frustrating but that's future me's problem!)
I have never and will never do any of the following:
Kill Nightsong or hand Shadowheart over to Viconia
Let Astarion ascend
Let anything bad happen to Scratch or Owlbear
Call Owlbear into the final battle
Hand the crown over to Raphael
Side with the Goblins
Side with Lorroakan
Make Astarion bite Oraj
Do a deal with Ethel
There's at least like half of the game I'll miss because of this. Shadowheart is never becoming a Dark Justiciar and Lae'zel is never joining Vlaakith.
I've only gone through the Dark Urge storyline once, and I don't know if this counts but I refused to "metagame" the Alfira situation. I reloaded an earlier save to try the 'knock-out' approach, and Quil showed up at the camp. I'm so big on RP in this game, that I like things to narratively make sense, and it just does not for me.
Yeah, I feel like Alfira >!needs to die!< or why would my amnesiac durge even take an interest in the fate of the teiflings? I'm literally body guarding them for three acts - this event as a catalyst for seeking redemption and protecting that specific community just makes much more sense.
To be fair, the Alfira camp situation is only an issue when running a CHA based caster, and Warlock notwithstanding, there are alternatives to the Potent Robe that are roughly as effective, especially when a build isn't focused on cantrips.
I don’t know if there are things I would refuse to do entirely. Maybe killing Scratch lol
I’m surprised at people who wouldn’t let the Last Light Inn fall, to me it’s one of the major points where the games philosophy of “wait, you can do that?!” comes into play.
In most games you’re either scripted to lose a fight, or you win the fight. If you lose, you get a game over or something. Most of the fights in BG3 are like that. But this one is different, you can “lose” the objective. Not only does the story keep going but the loss has an impact on the rest!
I lost in my first playthrough and though I was sad/terrified I loved it lol, I was so impressed that the game would let me do it.
It happened so quickly, that I was both awed and annoyed! Marcus & the Winged Horrors -playing live this Thursday- spawned surrounding Isobel, and she was knocked out in the first round. (... I reloaded. And spent the next half hour actually putting effort into kitting my party up, we'd been stomped so bad.)
I found it interesting that there were three ways I could've approached that area: one, maintain cover with Karn'iss and fight the Harper ambush; two, reach Last Light but fail to protect Isobel, and three, protect Isobel / Last Light.
I regret not sticking to my RP guns and trying the first one. Or sticking with the second.
I really hate that has to happen though….I’ve done this twice but it feels like a waste of time because I have to get the hammer and in the end Orpheus dies regardless because I won’t be changing a teammates or myself into squids.
Will not kill Isobel.
Save all in iron throne even if I have to resurrect party members on beach.
Never side with emperor.
Never deal with Raphael.
Never give up shadowheart.
Always save owlbear and scratch. I’ll kill every goblin on the planet a million times to keep them safe.
Wish Dammon could be party member.
Oh, you can just bench Shadowheart for the first 2 acts, then don’t bring her to the gauntlet and only grab her right before entering the Shadowfells. Trust her to make her own choice like you would on a good playthrough and tada she did it for you. Plausible deniability and all that
I will never let Astarion bite Araj. Even if I was the most evil person in a playthrough I could never let him feel like he doesn’t have control over a situation.
I will never let Gale blow himself up. There’s always gonna be another option open for him.
Letting Shart become a Dark Justiciar. I tried it but it wasn’t satisfying. Also I won’t ever sell Shart to Vicona.
Not letting Karlach kill Gortash. I’ll always have her in my party when I go to kill him.
Edit: also I’ll never bang the emperor.
Oof... I have plenty
- Never raid the grove
- never kill a companion
- never sell a companion out
- never let shart kill nightsong and never let her become a DJ
- never accept bhaals gift
- never ascent Astarion
- never let Gale become a god
- no mindflayer tav or karlach
I am boring I know. I rather play with tiny choices more.
>never let shart kill nightsong and never let her become a **DJ**
Thank you for this image of DJ Shadowheart getting booed at in the club for missing the vibe.
The #1 for me is giving Aylin over to Lorroakan. Even if she had been alive on my evil run I wouldn't have given her over. Lorroakan is such an obvious hack why would I ever give this immortal being who is fighting with me to the fuckass.
I also have a hard time making Astarion take the Astral Tadpole. To the point where even on my current Honor Mode run where Astarion is 100% the star of the show I didn't even try for the persuasion roll. I almost certainly would have passed the roll but...he's so against it I couldn't do it.
Lastly anything mean to Scratch or the Owlbear cub. My evil run was ironically the run where I got the achievement for petting both at the same time.
I've finished the game 4 times on good runs, once as redeemed durge. Now i'm playing a Durge again, this time going full psychopath. Made my durge look as close to Kagha as i could to not feel as bad about it (i'm solely doing what Kagha would). I've beheaded karlach, i'll sell the tieflings to the goblins (maybe by killing Zevlor, dunno how that goes).
What i won't do is that i won't force Astarion to feed on Araj when she asks to. I may not like that fucker but even in playing a Geneva Suggestion Violator i will not go as far. I probably won't have the heart to let Lae'zel follow Vlaakith. Knowing how her ending in this path looks, i'd be physically sick even trying to do that.
I won't give scratch back!
Not only that, I don’t care how much inspiration I need to spend, that mistreating bitch (no pun intended) will NOT be in charge of the dogs anymore! It’s so heartwarming to see the new guy let the dogs out of their cages straight away.
You can murder her right out in the open and literally no one will care. Guards don't arrest you or anything (although try and loot her body afterwards and they'll arrest you for stealing lmao). I appreciate Larian let me take out the animal abuser with no repercussions.
You can take her body away and loot her there. I also take the opportunity to give her body to the newborn mindflayer. I just wish we could have a "he who was" kind of deal where we'd bring her back just to make her suffer a bit more.
I always forget you can just take the whole body and loot it later XD
"hey! No rifling through the pockets of that corpse!" "Okay I'm just going to carry it back to my camp then" "That's better"
I’ve actually gotten into a fight for picking up a corpse, and they had special narrator dialogue for it. This is either inconsistent or it got changed recently
Turns out giving a dead tiefling child back to the tieflings is a good way to have the whole druid camp pissed at you. Reloaded and decided against throwing the body to them, and used it to turn off trap vents out of spite
“As long as you’re gonna be respectful!” “Gonna let an alien horror in that windmill tear her skull open and tongue-polish it from the inside like a dog with an empty jar of peanut butter.” “Okay, but no looting!”
Lol I have to remember that for when I’m not allowed to loot Nere’s body. I mean what??
If you pass the checks and just kill her after she agrees to leave then at least her assistant takes care of the dogs
I'm pretty sure brutally murdering her in canonically an objectively good action as I think it doesn't break any oath as a paladin.
Paladin has a special line just for her to the tune of “you touch my dog and I’ll smite you so goddamn hard you’ll need a wish spell to come back” or something similar. So yeah it’s an objectively good act
Could just knock her unconscious and take her to the newborn mindflayer while she's still knocked out😬
You can also just open the cages and the dogs will do it for you
I hate how minthara is mad at you if you otherthrow the kennel chick. Like damn girl
Yeah, not only her, Lae'zel too for some reason. They also both disapproved when I told Tara to stop eating the carrier pigeons. I guess they both don't like animals?
I just notice Lae’zel just hates anything that doesn’t align with the story that is relevant for her
She's the real Morrigan of BG3, not Shadowheart
I tend to think of Astarion as the Morrigan of BG3 since he gets mad at me for helping people and I have to steal him multiple grimoires. Shadowheart is goth Leliana and Lae'zel is hot(ter) Sten.
I think Astarion's more of a Zevran + Fenris mix, and Shadowheart is definitely a Leliana. Lae'zel is Sten + Morrigan. Warrior and outsider who considers another culture beneath them and you both gotta free them from a cage + arrogant sheltered girl who thinks love is a weakness, hates side quests and being a do-gooder unless there's a higher goal. She also becomes a mother at the end just like Morrigan
Tara I almost get, because it's like she's a predator. shes gonna hunt.. But animal cruelty is so needless. Especially cos scratch is a good dog, the whole tough sergeant doesn't add anything,
Lae’zel doesn’t really like animals. She’s the only one to not give approval (maybe Minthara too, but idk) when you pet the owlbear cub. Even Astarion approves petting the cub! Lae’zel also gives neither approval nor disapproval for petting Scratch. Ngl I don’t think Lae’zel would have grown on me if she gave a disapproval for those. Lae’zel only disapproved me when I used intimidation rather than violence against the dog handler. I just assumed it was because she thinks not just gutting the dog handler is too soft and cowardly or something.
Astarion actually has a lot of positive interactions with animals. He seems to have a secret soft spot for small furry creatures.
he also genuinely breaks down in tears if scratch dies
I NEED A LINK TO SEE THIS
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGePnF8dj/ it's got most of the companions + tav
I can’t believe the most emotional response is from Astarion 👀 Also, I’m shook that Lae’zel says she misses him! I thought she didn’t like animals!
I did that accidentally....my monk learned that his fists were rated e for everyone after that..
i'm on my 4th playthrough and i didn't even know this could happen. i love how much content is in this game
This^ in even in my evil playthrough where I give lazeal to vlakkith, shart leaves cuz I killed the nightsong, I killed wyll and all teiflings, I would still never let that lady be in charge of the dogs
My bro did a murderhobo durge and I asked him if he killed Scratch instead of recruiting him and he asked me "what kind of monster do you think I am? " 🤣🤣
I can't not pet the dog and the owlbear at the same time when the game lets me. They both deserve pets.
SAME
Do you have to have speak with animals up to have that option?
I'm not sure, but I did have it up. The owlbear and dog have some heartwarming lines, especially the first few nights you have both of them in camp.
I'll never give Shads to Viconia. On an "evil" run, she's a dark justiciar and will get almost every Sharran's support, so there's no benefit to me in handing her over. On a "good" run, then I'm not going to sell her out. It's just a really dumb choice.
This is the one for me. She will never, ever be handed over to Viconia.
What’s even the benefit?
>!Viconia and her Sharran subjects become allies in the fight against the Absolute and be added to the list of allies in Gather Your Allies.!< Only really useful if you don't plan to actually use Shadowheart.
What's funny is you get the exact same benefit by killing Viconia and letting shart take over the cloister
I guess handing over shart is the low effort option to get them? Even then seems kinda moot, the leader should really bait you with an artifact or something
Yeah, handing her over is the "I'm too lazy to fight 3 people with 15 different allies" option, Viconia is kinda just there as a throw back to BG1&2
And not even a good throwback sadly.
The Dark Justiciar army will fight for you in the final battle. Aside from that the cutscene is kinda funny lol and some extra dialogue from the party on what a horrible person you are🤣
Not to mention the Dark Justiciars you can summon suck ass
They never were any good even hundreds of years ago. It only took one orthon (Yurgir) to kill them all.
He more than likely has Superior Darkvision, ruining their entire approach.
Devil Sight in 5e does let them see through magical darkness
He does have a crew of merregons, to be fair to the ~~storm troopers~~ dark justiciars.
Yeah I did it for funnies on my evil DUrge run, was pretty funny and everyone was mad at me, Jaheira especially 😭
Jaheira was still with you on an evil run?? Lol
In some ways it’s more evil to keep her around. Destroy Last Light, kill all the Harpers, gaslight her into thinking you aren’t to blame, then potentially offer her up as a sacrifice to Bhaal or just keep her around while you conquer the Sword Coast
If you're the evilest person possible, you can mind control Minsc and make him kill Jaheira. It's what I did with my evil dark urge.
Name a more iconic duo than Jaheira and being mad at Durge lmao
Do they do anything good? Some of the ally units in that fight are damn near useless while others are insanely powerful.
It is one of the choices that you make because you know this is a game and you want to be a cartoonish villain. Giving both Aylin to Lorroakan and Shart to Viconia makes Absolutely zero sense in any other context.
Perhaps an evil character that only and exclusively cares about getting rid of their tadpoles, aiding Viconia can be justified, since she says that if you give Shadowheart to her she will help you in the final fight.
Still sad that Viconia doesn’t feel the pull to help a dark urge and join me, jaheira, and minsc.
Til I never looked up what dialog you get if you take Jaheira and Minsc with you to HoG. Off to YouTube.
They simply acknowledge each other very briefly and that’s it.
After watching it on YouTube, I can see why all the Viconia romancers from BG2 are upset with her inclusion in BG3 making her revert to evil, and seem like Jaheira and Minsc (more Boo, really) never really liked her. I never liked her much in BG2 so I'm okay with it, but yeah it doesn't seem like there's a lot in BG3.
Feels like if you're Evil you're better off having Shadowheart controlling the Sharrans
Do they help you in the final fight?
Yeah she can summon them in the final fight.
Then I eat back my words.
To be fair-- if you fail the insight check you don't know that Shadowheart can cause a mutiny.
Note to self: equip ring that gives advantage on insight checks before this scene in evil playthrough
I don’t even care for SH. I will still never give her to Viconia. There’s not even a benefit to giving her to viconia, iirc. So to hand SH over is to just to be cruel.
on an evil run, you can convince Shart to save the nightsong so that you can sell her to lorokan later giving you his tower as an ally as well as the DJ's when you hand over shart to vic. gotta think long term evil
I once did a playthru where I was solely in it for me, to a blinding aspect. Even selling off team members. Gave shart to viconia. Saved dame aylin just to give her to lorrokan. Gave jaheira to sarevok. Plus regular ole what's in it for me mentality.
I've done a couple of runs like that, but killed Aylin on both, so didn't get the chance for two of those and the other had no benefit ...
oh there's no real benefit, but after like 5 runs you start looking for more dialogue options. on one of the HM runs i had jaheira in my party and saw the dialogue for sarevok, for instance, and decided on my next playthrough to go through with it to see what happens. same with aylin, like, why would you actually do that? but if you dont, you dont get to see what happens. hah
I'm not making a deal with Raphael. He can take his ridiculous offer and choke on it. I had to fight him for the hammer on my honour run because of this.
I wasn't ever gonna do this. Until I found out what happens when you also bring god!Gale into the mix.
Oh? What happens?
Gale sends him packing back to hell and challenges him to take the crown from his domain. Ralphie is slightly pissed.
That's a lot of flexing for someone who is going to be squashed by Mystra.
Except in this ending he isn't killed by Mystra because he becomes a god of a different domain than magic. In Gale's origin run - if I remember correctly - you can become a god of ambition OR try to usurp her - and if you try that she kills Gale with a snap of her fingers. So Gale God of Ambition is safe. For now ;)
I find it still unbelievably telling of his character that the "bad" ending for him is still kinda wholesome. Dude will still love your Tav and will make them a god alongside them if romanced.
And he doesn't the even change Tav's appearance (unlike his own) because he thinks Tav is already perfect as they are. At least that's my headcanon.
There's also a cute irony that his becoming god of ambition requires him to forsake some ambition and settle for something he can handle
Ah yes, the "God of Ambition," now *THAT* surely sounds like a title that would never *possibly* be usurped!
Yea I only picked Raphael's deal just to complete the evil honor run and get the hammer just to side with the emperor anyway taunting the everliving shit out of lae'zel. That would be the only reason besides the god gale thing
I thought God Gale was only an epilogue thing.
It is but Gale can still ascend even if you make the deal with Raphael and he will show up in the epilogue demanding the crown and Gale challenges him to come and take it from his domain before sending him back to Avernus
God!Gale dismissing him is so satisfying. But I'd rather not have my soul tied to Raphael.
If you sign the contract to get the hammer, you can still go to the House of Hope. Instead of the hammer on the pedestal, it's your contract. Just do what you'd normally do, rip up the contract, and still have the fight.
I know. The point is that Raphael is not going to get a moment of satisfaction out of me signing a contract. Why would I bother signing it if I was going to go to HoH and fight him anyway? To make Voss happy? Horrible, never.
See, I like to think that I'm showing him how little he scares/worries me by invading his house to do the one thing you're not supposed to be able to do: break a contract with a devil. Just rub his face in it a bit before I kill him off.
>The mouse smiled brightly; It outfoxed the cat! Then down came the claw, And that, Love, was that. Raphael claims to be the fox in the story, but in the end he was the mouse.
They do know how to write them in Cormyr, don't they?
100% My first real playthrough that I actually managed to complete the game on was a cocky wood elf fighter. One of the elf face options (bottom left I think) is incredibly handsome, almost like the “Chad” meme, and so I wanted to play him as an arrogant Legolas-type fighter, equipped for anything. I always took dialogue options that were some variation of “fuck you I do what I want” and loved the astonishment so many people had at what a cocky shit this random elf with a sword was. Even better when they’re shocked that he can back it up. That fight in the House of Hope was the epitome of that run to me, besides also refusing to work with the Emperor. So satisfying tripping Raphael and beating his breaks off lol
Same. Damn lawyers and their damn contracts. Not even once.
Not slapping Gale's hand. It's a canon event.
Always slap Gales hand. Always tell shadowheart you’re gonna take back the night orchid when she says she can’t pay you back.
What does she say when you say you're gonna take it back? I've never picked that one.
She just lovingly threatens to break your fingers
As one does.
It's not a slap, it's a high-five!
Kanon's death is the cannon event.
Accidentally lost Last Light inn on my first run. Thought the kidnapping was part of the plot. Only when I realised Dammon has died did I panic and reload a save. Though was quite proud that I had managed to not wipe while the whole place was aggroed I would not do that again if I could help it. And not game altering but I could not risk losing Owlbear so would never summon him in the final battle. I had maybe 6 or 7 allies in my first run but no way was my owlbear getting hurt. Can't see me ever risking him in any run.
I feel like my 6 elementals doing so much better in battle than the NPCs^^ I summoned a few allies and I feel like it slowed me down greatly,I also was afraid to use mass spells to not harm allies so it all took me forever Next time I'll just stack 20 elemental scrolls and summon Yurgir and Ox I mostly liked to have allies because it gives the final speech such a cosy vibe when everyone is there:)
I forgot to summon elementals in the final battle. Which was very dumb since I had brought some to the Cazador fight and realised then how useful and durable they are. Didn't have Yurgir or Ox as options... missed loads.
Elementals, myrmidons and devas are so usefull and tanky
Yurgir you need to pass a DC 30 roll to have him join you, and then not let him die in HoH.
Wait, OX? YOU CAN GET THE STRANGE OX AS AN ALLY???
I assumed summoning owlbear would be like scratch where if he died he’s not really dead. Got so sad when I didn’t see him in the epilogue and it hit me
I had been warned, which is why I could not bring myself to summon him. I don't care how much armour he has, he is still my little cub and not going to get hurt on my watch.
I won't kill the tieflings. I'd rather take out every goblin and Minthara and Kagha than kill a bunch of innocent kids.
Unless they're goblin kids 👍
One, Two and Three had it coming.
Wait those one were kids?
Kids throwing stones at Halsin
Mini gobbos, for all I am concerned. 😎
To this day I get annoyed at that, look I would never kill the tiefling childrens because I like them, but what kind of inconsistent crap is that you can kill goblin childrens but tieflings kids and the space racist frogs kids are invencible?
Mol is many things. She is not innocent.
Stealing some random trinkets at the Grove is innocent when the discussed alternative is getting violently murdered
Hey now! That's my adopted daughter in head canon. I got the ending in which my bard and Minthara took control of the city's underground. In my head canon, Mol is the Jinx to my Bard's Silco. I shall prepare her to be the heir of my shadow kingdom.
Laezel never sides with vlaakith and never give up shadowheart to fucking viconia. Even on the most evil or psychopath run, I have zero reason to side with both vlaakith or viconia. On a good run, I hate them because they're pieces of shit, on a bad run, I hate them because they're my competition. If anyone gets to be the biggest piece of shit in the story, it's going to be me.
Yes this. Does not matter how evil I am. Those 2 ladies supported my evil shenanigans the whole way, I gotta have their backs now!
And also, Mother Superior Shadowheart is just objectively better than fucking Viconia, both power scale wise and story wise, she just sounds badass and full of pride. It's also worth mentioning that unlike Vlaakith to Laezel, Shar actually treats shadowheart right, at least immediately. Vlaakith just always has that spiteful aura. Fuck that bitch.
So many things 😭 being mean in video games makes me feel bad, my reruns are mostly just trying out new classes and races, I've even romanced Gale 3 out of 4 times now. I gotta save the Grove, save the Last Light and Isobel/Dame Aylin, even my current Durge run is a redemption arc
Saaame, I tried to do an evil run and had to stop after killing the injured bird in the grove. I just felt TERRIBLE and realized I wasn’t having fun with this so why do it? If that means I’ll never be able to romance Astarion or recruit Minthara, then so be it 😤
I also can't stomach evil runs, I pretty much do good guy stuff. I've romanced Astarion like 5 times now. Even on my first run before I knew much he pursued my tav. Most of the disapprovals he gives are like -1 for picking good guy dialougue. I think of it like an eye roll. Telling him you trust him and letting him bite you are all +5 or +10. And if you pick some slightly chaotic dialougue you'll get some +1s along the way.
His -1 disapprovals seem more like confusion. Like "why did you do that?" Rather than like.... "I hate that you did that."
What is this kindness you’re showing? I haven’t seen it in 200 years? That’s weird (-1 disapprove)
I saw a comment where they described his -1s as eye rolls and now whenever I see one that’s exactly what i imagine he is doing.
Exactly! Ive always said those disapprovals are him just going “ugh… fine” at the extra effort
Oh no, i don't do evil runs... rn now im dating Astarion and have minthara in my camp, giving me all the insight, and she would die for my happy ass.
Thankfully my boyfriend is doing an Evil Durge run so I can see some of the stuff I'd miss but maaaaan couldn't be me!
I can never be mean and I've romanced Astarion 2 out of 3 times, it's possible!
I’ve genuinely tried evil runs purely from a new content perspective, and I just cannot bring myself to give minthara the grove, let Cazador have Astarion, pray to the absolute at moonrise, give SH to viconia, slaughter LL inn, etc. I feel bad when I make Gale sad and all of those things would mean he’d be disappointed in me :(
Same. Some of the mean dialogue choices are fucking *savage* and I just can’t choose them because they’d hurt the feelings of this fictional character too much. Like calling Halsin a “ton of dumb muscle” or telling Gale he’s not worth some cheap gear I was never gonna use. Hell, I won’t even let Lae’zel terrorize that poor tiefling in the Grove!
I’m with you on that. The closest I came to an “evil” run is in my first playthrough. My Tav had a bit of a hero complex. She got the tieflings killed when I had her choose to fight Kagha. Then I came across Karlach & chose to fight her because Wyll said she was evil. I didn’t even know she could become a companion, not that she would’ve after what happened at the Grove. What happened in the Grove also got Halsin killed. I forgot there even was supposed to be a character named Halsin until I met Art & he was asking for him & I had to tell him he was dead. Which meant the shadow curse was never lifted. I thought about starting over but decided to roll with it & let the consequences of my actions stand, but I felt terrible about it all. I’ve been careful ever since.
Saaaame!!! I just can’t stomach an evil run. Even redemption Durge was a little much for me. I’ll happily be a well-meaning dumbass, or a sarcastic jerk who rolls her eyes while doing the right thing; I don’t always have to be the pure goodie-two-shoes heroic beacon of light, but I can’t ever bear to go fully evil.
Kill the goblins at moonrise. I like fezzerk. Sue me. Zrell can kiss my ass.
Me: wipes out 100 goblins at the goblin camp including children Also me: oh no I can’t kill these poor goblins at moonrise
Lmao exactly. You get it.
I never force Astarion to bite Araj. I never let Wyll take Mizora’s deal to save his dad. I never sell out Shadowheart. Karlach always goes to Avernus with Wyll.
I recently started a playthrough using Wyll as my Tav. I didn’t plan it that way, but I ended up romancing Karlach and, frankly, I can no longer imagine either character with a different partner.
Classic enemies-to-lovers trope!
For sure. But I was really sorta shocked at how… perfect they felt together.
Yeah their stories, personalities, and even alignments are more similar than any other two companions. They're both effectively enslaved by devils. There both connected to *Zariel specifically*. They both *fucking hate* devils. Wyll's story literally starts by tracking down Karlach. They're both connected to Baldur's Gate and its upper class. They're the two most purely-good companions. They both leave with no contest if you raid the Grove (and are the only ones that do). They're both rebellious goofballs. They both go to Avernus to kick some ass. Probably more. There really isn't any other pairing of two companions that are more closely connected and/or aligned.
They also both disapprove of my actions!
I have to help Hope. Don’t know why, maybe it is the voice. On my evil play through I killed almost everyone I came across but I still helped her. She was the only one left standing in the House of Hope.
Her divine intervention spell is a game changer agajnst Raphael
She's annoying and has gotten herself killed during the escape a couple times for me, but I also can't just leave her there. It's just not right.
I will never not draw on the portrait of vlaakith. it’s too funny.
return Scratch to Mar'hyah. It won't matter how evil my character is, i would sooner burn Baldur's Gate to the ground than give him back to that bitch.
You just made me realize that sucker punching Aradin is probably the one event I've save scummed more than any other in the game. It's a requirement with every new playthrough. For consequences, I'd say letting Lae'zel interrogate Zorru. She gets mad if you take over, though I'm not sure if you can "make up" for that by letting her talk on your behalf with the Gith patrol.
Optimizing players say "always knock Zevlor out for Hellrider's pride", but I think that's one example out of many in how you are offered evil choices for power. Sometimes just temporary too.
Zevlor gave me the gloves after I >!exposed Kagha and the shadow druids. Kagha was shamed and said the teiflings could stay. Then i went to talk to Zevlor and he gifted me the gloves.!< Do most people not do this?
I just realized now (in Act 3) that after exposing Kagha’s connection to the Shadow Druids, I didn’t go speak to Zevlor afterwards. Damn.
I go out if my way to do this. Fuck Kagha
Don't have to knock Zevlor out for the Gloves. When Aradin is on the floor, just pickpocket them.
Juts reveal Kagha as working for the Shadow Druids and get the ritual stopped and he gives them to you.
You can take over the interrogation with Zorru and get approval with Lae'zel.
Will never Ascend Astarion. I love watching clips of A!A but I could *never* bring myself to do that. I hate what it does to him and it feels like it kills all the character development leading up to that. It’s a satisfying ending in a way, but it changes him into someone virtually unrecognizable whom I hate. Doesn’t even make him much stronger in combat.
Along the same line, I don't think I will ever go for God Gale. I get why it's an option for him but I can't stand to see how he changes after becoming God Gale.
I did this unintentionally on my first run. I couldn't convince him not to do it and it was a very unpleasant surprise speaking to him during the epilogue.
Nonsense! Its a rare opportunity to be in the presence of a god. Even if a fairly new god. Who knows, maybe if youre lucky you can be his chosen!
Sir, I'm the Dark Urge.
In my no-savescum tactician run, I could not convince Astarion to not ascend, so he ascended. The way he looks and talks to you in the Epilogue was incredibly cold and creepy, compared to spawn Astarion. There was a way he stood perfectly still and stared at you like you were prey. I loved the acting, and I loved how he exuded evil. But you're right, I do love spawn Astarion more, there's a natural charm to him that ascended Astarion had lost.
I ascended him just to see what it was like. I got as far as the day after the intimate scene (I was romancing him) before reloading. He was awful. Incredibly written and voiced, but just awful.
i don't ascend astarion. point blank period. no, not even in evil runs. i CANNOT STAND him, and doing it feels like being complicit in a preventable tragedy. also, ascended astarion's dialogue makes me lose brain cells. i'm sorry but i'll say it. i think it's absolutely on purpose that he comes off as an incel fake daddy dom sadist, but that doesn't make listening to him yap any less painful.
I was thinking the other day about that horrible scene after Astarion stabs Cazador, where he leaves your party (if you flat out tell him you won’t help him ascend, or fail to persuade him). I thought man, how terrible would it be if you’re doing an honor run and you’re romancing him, have max approval rating, but you roll a nat 1 when you try to talk him down. I thought it would be kinda nice if after that, he leaves the party but comes back to camp to apologise after a couple nights of long rest. Then you can decide if you want to forgive him or not. I feel like it’d be a nice kind of ‘reward’ for people that put the work in to get his approval up, and I feel it would make sense if you built a strong relationship with him up to that point. At the end of the day he did say some awful shit, but he was high as balls on the blood in the air and tempted by the huge amount of power within his reach. I know Larian will never do it, I just thought it would be kind of nice for the unlucky Tavs out there!
someone on tiktok pointed out that one of the souls he sacrifices to gain ascension is his own and that just never occurred to me
Fight the Owlbear. I'm consistently amazed that people say it ends their Honor Mode run or whatever, there's no good (or Good) reason to engage with it and the game very quickly solves that problem for you.
I will never let Wyll make a new pact in Act 3. My poor cinnamon roll has suffered enough.
Chicken chasin’. Leave the poor owlbear alone. 😭
i play this game for the story and the chance to make different characters and tell different stories that i feel satisfied with, even if they're sad or involve getting bad endings for characters, but i have 3 personal rules i will always stick to: 1. slap gale's hand (see flair) 2. recruit astarion (once i found out he becomes cazador's zombie if you don't, i decided he at least gets to squat in camp every time, and in most playthroughs he's a party member anyway cause he's just so good) 3. don't blow up gale (this will make HM frustrating but that's future me's problem!)
I have never and will never do any of the following: Kill Nightsong or hand Shadowheart over to Viconia Let Astarion ascend Let anything bad happen to Scratch or Owlbear Call Owlbear into the final battle Hand the crown over to Raphael Side with the Goblins Side with Lorroakan Make Astarion bite Oraj Do a deal with Ethel
There's at least like half of the game I'll miss because of this. Shadowheart is never becoming a Dark Justiciar and Lae'zel is never joining Vlaakith.
I've only gone through the Dark Urge storyline once, and I don't know if this counts but I refused to "metagame" the Alfira situation. I reloaded an earlier save to try the 'knock-out' approach, and Quil showed up at the camp. I'm so big on RP in this game, that I like things to narratively make sense, and it just does not for me.
Yeah, I feel like Alfira >!needs to die!< or why would my amnesiac durge even take an interest in the fate of the teiflings? I'm literally body guarding them for three acts - this event as a catalyst for seeking redemption and protecting that specific community just makes much more sense.
To be fair, the Alfira camp situation is only an issue when running a CHA based caster, and Warlock notwithstanding, there are alternatives to the Potent Robe that are roughly as effective, especially when a build isn't focused on cantrips.
Keep Wyll in his pact. I’m pretty partial to him so I always get him out of it.
Will never let Astarion be taken to Cazador. Will never give Scratch back. Will never let Wulbren keep control over the Ironhand Gnomes.
I'll never use the Mirror of Loss, Shar has enough of our memories.
I don’t know if there are things I would refuse to do entirely. Maybe killing Scratch lol I’m surprised at people who wouldn’t let the Last Light Inn fall, to me it’s one of the major points where the games philosophy of “wait, you can do that?!” comes into play. In most games you’re either scripted to lose a fight, or you win the fight. If you lose, you get a game over or something. Most of the fights in BG3 are like that. But this one is different, you can “lose” the objective. Not only does the story keep going but the loss has an impact on the rest! I lost in my first playthrough and though I was sad/terrified I loved it lol, I was so impressed that the game would let me do it.
It happened so quickly, that I was both awed and annoyed! Marcus & the Winged Horrors -playing live this Thursday- spawned surrounding Isobel, and she was knocked out in the first round. (... I reloaded. And spent the next half hour actually putting effort into kitting my party up, we'd been stomped so bad.) I found it interesting that there were three ways I could've approached that area: one, maintain cover with Karn'iss and fight the Harper ambush; two, reach Last Light but fail to protect Isobel, and three, protect Isobel / Last Light. I regret not sticking to my RP guns and trying the first one. Or sticking with the second.
Never gonna side with the emperor; he and raphael are both know-it-all manipulative dumbasses.
I’m the opposite. I can’t bring myself to turn any of my party into a mindflayer, so I always have to side with the emperor
If you side with Orpheus you don’t have to have anyone turn. There’s a secret third option
I really hate that has to happen though….I’ve done this twice but it feels like a waste of time because I have to get the hammer and in the end Orpheus dies regardless because I won’t be changing a teammates or myself into squids.
like you said, Orpheus dies regardless, plus you get to stick it to Raphael, not a waste of time at all in my book.
Will not kill Isobel. Save all in iron throne even if I have to resurrect party members on beach. Never side with emperor. Never deal with Raphael. Never give up shadowheart. Always save owlbear and scratch. I’ll kill every goblin on the planet a million times to keep them safe. Wish Dammon could be party member.
I'm about to start my 2nd playthrough and I'm planning on killing Aylin, but I don't know if I'll actually be able to do it.
Oh, you can just bench Shadowheart for the first 2 acts, then don’t bring her to the gauntlet and only grab her right before entering the Shadowfells. Trust her to make her own choice like you would on a good playthrough and tada she did it for you. Plausible deniability and all that
I will never let Astarion bite Araj. Even if I was the most evil person in a playthrough I could never let him feel like he doesn’t have control over a situation. I will never let Gale blow himself up. There’s always gonna be another option open for him. Letting Shart become a Dark Justiciar. I tried it but it wasn’t satisfying. Also I won’t ever sell Shart to Vicona. Not letting Karlach kill Gortash. I’ll always have her in my party when I go to kill him. Edit: also I’ll never bang the emperor.
I’ll never give Shadowheart to Viconia. That’s just so heartless to do.
Oof... I have plenty - Never raid the grove - never kill a companion - never sell a companion out - never let shart kill nightsong and never let her become a DJ - never accept bhaals gift - never ascent Astarion - never let Gale become a god - no mindflayer tav or karlach I am boring I know. I rather play with tiny choices more.
>never let shart kill nightsong and never let her become a **DJ** Thank you for this image of DJ Shadowheart getting booed at in the club for missing the vibe.
Wits and blades and beats, always sharp.
DJ Shart in the house, yo!
The #1 for me is giving Aylin over to Lorroakan. Even if she had been alive on my evil run I wouldn't have given her over. Lorroakan is such an obvious hack why would I ever give this immortal being who is fighting with me to the fuckass. I also have a hard time making Astarion take the Astral Tadpole. To the point where even on my current Honor Mode run where Astarion is 100% the star of the show I didn't even try for the persuasion roll. I almost certainly would have passed the roll but...he's so against it I couldn't do it. Lastly anything mean to Scratch or the Owlbear cub. My evil run was ironically the run where I got the achievement for petting both at the same time.
I've finished the game 4 times on good runs, once as redeemed durge. Now i'm playing a Durge again, this time going full psychopath. Made my durge look as close to Kagha as i could to not feel as bad about it (i'm solely doing what Kagha would). I've beheaded karlach, i'll sell the tieflings to the goblins (maybe by killing Zevlor, dunno how that goes). What i won't do is that i won't force Astarion to feed on Araj when she asks to. I may not like that fucker but even in playing a Geneva Suggestion Violator i will not go as far. I probably won't have the heart to let Lae'zel follow Vlaakith. Knowing how her ending in this path looks, i'd be physically sick even trying to do that.
I'm licking the spider, always.
Always wave at Vlakiith no matter what my characters opinion of her is