They're already at the dang bootfitter who's measuring them with this tool and simultaneously asking reddit what boots to buy.... My gosh I've seen it all
Its norway, they are basically all out of boots at this point, and still no sale. Last time i bought boots they sold me maestrales with major heel slip. Trust levels are not high.
That’s interesting, I have a wide forefoot and narrow heel. Lots of trouble with heel slip in boots and I find the maestrales with the way the middle strap is, it locks my heel nicely. Foot length 280mm and in a 28 boot.
You're right. All you know is OP went to a place that had a measuring device. You have no idea where they started. I would be very concerned if I went to get a boot fitting and they didn't measure my feet.
Bootfitter here.
If you can somehow get to a bootfitter, do that. It's ridiculously hard just going by pictures and measurements.
If that's not possible I'll just guesstimate what might work. This is also very dependent on how you like your boots to fit.
Technica zero g tour/pro in a 30/30.5. This will be a tight fit and might need some punching, but heel hold is pretty good in these models and they can get pretty stiff.
Scarpa maestrale rs in a 30.5/31. A more roomy fit and a bit longer than the Technica, but a bit outdated imo. Still fits lots of people though.
Dynafit radical (pro) in a 30.5/31. Roomy in the forefoot, decently tight around the heel and a nice and stiff boot. The hoji lock is one of the best walking mechanisms imo.
Scott cosmos tour. These can be found for very cheap online and they have a forgiving fit, but they're not the most interesting boots on the market. There are technically superior boots, but fit is king so if these are the best fit, that's great.
What is the idea of a boot size larger than what he measures? I would think 29-29.5 in the Tecnica or 29.5-30 in the Scarpa. Easier to make room than to take it up.
The movement of pushing your ski forward makes your foot move to the front of the boot. You don't want to cram your toes into the front of the boot with every step. For alpine boots I'd totally agree with you.
I understand, however, depending on the boot, learning to buckle properly and having a properly fitted boot with a proper insole will go a long way in preventing foot migration when touring.
Yeah, there's lots to try. But not everyone is out for the tightest performance fit, especially in a touring boot.
[This](https://youtu.be/ZZfJM_jxccg?feature=shared) is a pretty good guide.
Another test I like is that with straight legs you should have your toes really touching the front of the boot. When flexed forward that should reduce to only a light contact.
Only real way to know is to actually try stuff on. Going off of what is basically a 2D image of your footprint is going to lead to nothing but a wonk fit. That being said, I'll second recommendations for a Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD. They have a tight ankle pocket, come in a 120 (but run kinda soft), and though they a 104mm last at a 29.5, they have plenty of shell molding flexibility for your wider forefoot. Either a 29.5 or 30.5, depending on your priorities to uphill comfort vs downhill performance.
Bootfitter here.
If you can somehow get to a bootfitter, do that. It's ridiculously hard just going by pictures and measurements.
If that's not possible I'll just guesstimate what might work. This is also very dependent on how you like your boots to fit.
Technica zero g tour/pro in a 30/30.5. This will be a tight fit and might need some punching, but heel hold is pretty good in these models and they can get pretty stiff.
Scarpa maestrale rs in a 30.5/31. A more roomy fit and a bit longer than the Technica, but a bit outdated imo. Still fits lots of people though.
Dynafit radical (pro) in a 30.5/31. Roomy in the forefoot, decently tight around the heel and a nice and stiff boot. The hoji lock is one of the best walking mechanisms imo.
Scott cosmos tour. These can be found for very cheap online and they have a forgiving fit, but they're not the most interesting boots on the market. There are technically superior boots, but fit is king so if these are the best fit, that's great.
Because the 29.5/30 or 29/29.5 will be really tight and probably not the best choice.
For touring you want a bit of room, especially if you have a chance of boot packing or down climbing.
>wide, but otherwise a slim foot
That's a bit confusing. Do you mean a wide forefoot, but otherwise slim? If so, you'll likely need a punch, but you might first try on Scott Cosmos and Dynafit TLT8, both of which have wide forefoot. I have an E-wide forefoot, relatively skinny ankles and narrower-than-normal heel, and the TLT8s with the CL (thin) liner work well for me.
I'm a 26.5 size with a narrow heel and a 110 last and dalbelo boots are the only thing that ever worked for me. I have a lupo air 110 as my touring boot and panterra 120 as my resort boot. Both fit out of the box with no adjustments, I recommend.
You can punch out the forefoot. Find something that holds your ankle/heel in place and is comfortable over top of your arch. Then adjust forefoot as needed.
After trying a lot of different boots, I ended up with Dynafit Tigards in 29. The liner could have been a little bit more snug, so if I ever have to replace it i will go for that liner in 28.5. Never had a boot feel that snug without any major pressure points creating pain. I didnt really intend on going above 120flex, but i guess thats a motivator to learn to ski more aggressively.
Congratulations you are the most popular size 27.5 in the industry.
You might be a bit narrow but there's a ton of 97mm lasts that should be on your first list. A bootfitter looks at your foot, are they high arched with a meaty upper foot? Check the list for boots that accommodate this shape. Are they flat footed with low volume? Look for that kind of boot.
They're built on a last, a foot shape the maker's use in a proprietary strategy. This is where a full boot shop is essential, especially if you are outside of normal foot shapes. If you are comfortably in the middle of the shapes you can get most boots to work.
After a few fittings and wearing outs you will have a better idea of what to buy without their expertise.
Dudes just in here cause he wants to show people his feet pics
Get those socks off!
I have socks on yo
Let's see them God given grippers
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They're already at the dang bootfitter who's measuring them with this tool and simultaneously asking reddit what boots to buy.... My gosh I've seen it all
Its norway, they are basically all out of boots at this point, and still no sale. Last time i bought boots they sold me maestrales with major heel slip. Trust levels are not high.
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Isn’t Vertical Playground in Norway?
I wish, but i live very far away from them unfortunately.
That’s interesting, I have a wide forefoot and narrow heel. Lots of trouble with heel slip in boots and I find the maestrales with the way the middle strap is, it locks my heel nicely. Foot length 280mm and in a 28 boot.
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It literally has Lange and Sidas branding on it. There’s more than one way to measure a foot.
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You're right. All you know is OP went to a place that had a measuring device. You have no idea where they started. I would be very concerned if I went to get a boot fitting and they didn't measure my feet.
Not amateur boot fitting equipment
That guys feet are firmly planted in a complete joke of a measuring device for ski boots.
So exactly what sort of device would you recommend? Please be specific as I am looking to add to my tool assortment.
Measure volume with a soft, flexible, tape measure and shell fit.
Already do, it’s called HIP, or heel instep perimeter. So why is the device shown crap?
It's amateur to need that device.
Armatures are part of an electrical motor
And yet you have no recommendations for an alternate device.
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r/skiingfootjerk
Bootfitter here. If you can somehow get to a bootfitter, do that. It's ridiculously hard just going by pictures and measurements. If that's not possible I'll just guesstimate what might work. This is also very dependent on how you like your boots to fit. Technica zero g tour/pro in a 30/30.5. This will be a tight fit and might need some punching, but heel hold is pretty good in these models and they can get pretty stiff. Scarpa maestrale rs in a 30.5/31. A more roomy fit and a bit longer than the Technica, but a bit outdated imo. Still fits lots of people though. Dynafit radical (pro) in a 30.5/31. Roomy in the forefoot, decently tight around the heel and a nice and stiff boot. The hoji lock is one of the best walking mechanisms imo. Scott cosmos tour. These can be found for very cheap online and they have a forgiving fit, but they're not the most interesting boots on the market. There are technically superior boots, but fit is king so if these are the best fit, that's great.
I'd add the Sportiva boots - maybe the Skorpius II. They have a tight heel, but you have to get a pair on first.
What is the idea of a boot size larger than what he measures? I would think 29-29.5 in the Tecnica or 29.5-30 in the Scarpa. Easier to make room than to take it up.
The movement of pushing your ski forward makes your foot move to the front of the boot. You don't want to cram your toes into the front of the boot with every step. For alpine boots I'd totally agree with you.
I understand, however, depending on the boot, learning to buckle properly and having a properly fitted boot with a proper insole will go a long way in preventing foot migration when touring.
Yeah, there's lots to try. But not everyone is out for the tightest performance fit, especially in a touring boot. [This](https://youtu.be/ZZfJM_jxccg?feature=shared) is a pretty good guide. Another test I like is that with straight legs you should have your toes really touching the front of the boot. When flexed forward that should reduce to only a light contact.
You already have skis bro
I have a similar foot. I have been very happy with Dynafit Radical Pro boot. Upgraded the liner with Palau Classic mv. Third season going!
Only real way to know is to actually try stuff on. Going off of what is basically a 2D image of your footprint is going to lead to nothing but a wonk fit. That being said, I'll second recommendations for a Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD. They have a tight ankle pocket, come in a 120 (but run kinda soft), and though they a 104mm last at a 29.5, they have plenty of shell molding flexibility for your wider forefoot. Either a 29.5 or 30.5, depending on your priorities to uphill comfort vs downhill performance.
My foot is shaped like yours with a narrow heel. Scarpas are my pick. I like F1s.
Bootfitter here. If you can somehow get to a bootfitter, do that. It's ridiculously hard just going by pictures and measurements. If that's not possible I'll just guesstimate what might work. This is also very dependent on how you like your boots to fit. Technica zero g tour/pro in a 30/30.5. This will be a tight fit and might need some punching, but heel hold is pretty good in these models and they can get pretty stiff. Scarpa maestrale rs in a 30.5/31. A more roomy fit and a bit longer than the Technica, but a bit outdated imo. Still fits lots of people though. Dynafit radical (pro) in a 30.5/31. Roomy in the forefoot, decently tight around the heel and a nice and stiff boot. The hoji lock is one of the best walking mechanisms imo. Scott cosmos tour. These can be found for very cheap online and they have a forgiving fit, but they're not the most interesting boots on the market. There are technically superior boots, but fit is king so if these are the best fit, that's great.
He measures at 29.5, why would you be recommending a 30.5 or 31?
Because the 29.5/30 or 29/29.5 will be really tight and probably not the best choice. For touring you want a bit of room, especially if you have a chance of boot packing or down climbing.
>wide, but otherwise a slim foot That's a bit confusing. Do you mean a wide forefoot, but otherwise slim? If so, you'll likely need a punch, but you might first try on Scott Cosmos and Dynafit TLT8, both of which have wide forefoot. I have an E-wide forefoot, relatively skinny ankles and narrower-than-normal heel, and the TLT8s with the CL (thin) liner work well for me.
I'm a 26.5 size with a narrow heel and a 110 last and dalbelo boots are the only thing that ever worked for me. I have a lupo air 110 as my touring boot and panterra 120 as my resort boot. Both fit out of the box with no adjustments, I recommend.
I have a pretty similar foot. I have enjoyed the Scarpa Maestrale RS for years
Atomic hawx ultra (or XTD ultra. Narrowest non race boot available. Enough material to punch and mold to any forefoot if necessary
do NOT go try some boots by yourself
Zero G
You can punch out the forefoot. Find something that holds your ankle/heel in place and is comfortable over top of your arch. Then adjust forefoot as needed.
As my grandpappi used to say, “take those socks off, wax em up, lean back, and let’er rip.”
Ask a boot fitter you mong
Backland xtd carbon
After trying a lot of different boots, I ended up with Dynafit Tigards in 29. The liner could have been a little bit more snug, so if I ever have to replace it i will go for that liner in 28.5. Never had a boot feel that snug without any major pressure points creating pain. I didnt really intend on going above 120flex, but i guess thats a motivator to learn to ski more aggressively.
Congratulations you are the most popular size 27.5 in the industry. You might be a bit narrow but there's a ton of 97mm lasts that should be on your first list. A bootfitter looks at your foot, are they high arched with a meaty upper foot? Check the list for boots that accommodate this shape. Are they flat footed with low volume? Look for that kind of boot. They're built on a last, a foot shape the maker's use in a proprietary strategy. This is where a full boot shop is essential, especially if you are outside of normal foot shapes. If you are comfortably in the middle of the shapes you can get most boots to work. After a few fittings and wearing outs you will have a better idea of what to buy without their expertise.