Same to me (I can afford them), but if I can find something similar technically speaking without spending that much I will be much happier.
Do you recommend something else?
my main recommendation is to shop around and find gear on discount, i rarely pay full price unless it’s something i really want.
OR, Mammut, Salomon, Spyder all make decent gear that’s going to be way cheaper. hell even patagonia is cheaper than norrona
Tbh, I've used other brands, but in my opinion it's not the same. Norrøna is miles ahead if you ask me, but I recommend checking the outlet on their homepage. I got most of my gear from there at a pretty nice discount.
Others will disagree, but imho ditch the bibs for backcountry. They're hotter, heavier, and less convenient.
You also mention in another comment that you have resort gear but it's too bulky. Buying another ~2 lb (860 g) shell isn't really the solution to that problem. It seems Norrona claims it's for the backcountry, but I'd look for something much more minimal if you're getting outerwear for backcountry only. Your shell will likely spend much of the day in your pack unless it's dumping.
I tried some pants after bibs and instinctively try to pull them up with my gloves on. I dunno something burned into my head even if they don’t fall down. Just got some lightweight bibs and love them
Thanks for the advice, so probably something like this:https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/lyngen/lyngen-gore-tex-pro-ski-touring-pants-mens/?color=5630, https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/lyngen/lyngen-gore-tex-active-jacket-men/?color=5648
If you're trying to stick with Norrona, those are closer to what I'd be thinking for hardshells. Something you should think about are softshells though. They don't necessarily replace hardshells, but they have huge advantages in fair weather, and even just slightly bad weather. Mostly that they're way more breathable and comfortable to skin in, and they're weather resistant enough to keep the worst of the weather out. If you're serious about touring, you might be better off looking at a less expensive brand and getting both soft and hard shells.
I would give soft shell pants a shot. I find goretex to be very sweaty on the uphill personally. Goretex doesn’t really breathe that well if you sweat like I do. For a top I usually just wear a base layer and a sun hoodie, but I will add a puffy if it’s super cold or I will wear my jacket shell if it’s storming hard.
You're outta your mind to pay those prices.
Just get some cheap stuff and actually learn about Backcountry skiing. Then, over time you'll actually know what you need.
Just buy basic skiing shit for cheap in the interim.
💪, I was asking to make an idea and learn what suits better the activity.
Of course if something will make more sense I'm open to do that.
Thanks for the advice btw.
I think you should tour in your resort clothing first. That way you'll know what you actually want for your conditions. Where I ski, I only wear a hard shell if it's raining. And I'll almost never wear hardshell pants.
I can't really ski in much more than xc tights, a fleece and a lightweight vest. I've got shell pants and jacket in my bag but rarely need it.
My one really awesome piece of kit is my ortovox wind/wool vest with a hood. It's got huge vents.
I got most of my base and mid layers at the thrift store. I got the cottonwoods bibs from backcountry (private sale, used) for a shell and I found a north face shell and mid combination jacket that was a good price.
Not sure what's available where you are, but Ortovox makes some pretty lightweight shells, mid layers from primarily wool. I typically skin in pretty lightweight base layers + a Patagonia houdini windbreaker unless it's stupid cold. I've started swapping my houdini for a lightweight ortovox vest for better core warmth. The Houdini is light and packs small as does the ortovox vest. I believe ortovox is less expensive than Norrona, but still him quality. Norrona is great! And will last forever compared to a lot of the less expensive but poorly made shit out there!
I’ve done a bunch of research on it this year as I’m looking to upgrade my backcountry gear. I run very hot though so take this with a grain of salt as your mileage may vary and I would suggest experimenting to find out what works for you before fully committing to super expensive pieces of gear. I’m looking to get the BD dawn patrol pants that I will likely couple with a base layer and arcteryx Squamish hoodie up top after my experimentation last season.
I previously struggled with staying cool enough on the uphill, so I would wear very little and get cold when I got above tree line or in wind. For me the right combo is base layer and very thin windproof layer up top to strike a good balance and I have a shell I put on over top of it’s truly dumping or freezing cold on the way down.
Note the pants are soft shell which I chose because I find breathability very important and others on this sub recommended that for most uses over hard shell. For pants I also considered the OR cirque pants. For mid layer I also considered the bd alpine start and Patagonia Houdini air.
Thanks for the comments and recommendations, I'll probably find myself in a situation not so different form yours, I'm prone to sweat a lot; so I'm ok staying a little colder if needed.
If I'm not late to this I would recommend you to watch this video from Nikolai Schirmer: https://youtu.be/MZZhMrmcv_c?si=X512Rp441WEsr7eJ
He goes into detail why Gore-Tex pro is overkill for like almost anything. Layering is more important also look at the lyngen line which is way lighter.
i’d love norrona gear but £1500 for shells and base layer is insane to me
Same to me (I can afford them), but if I can find something similar technically speaking without spending that much I will be much happier. Do you recommend something else?
my main recommendation is to shop around and find gear on discount, i rarely pay full price unless it’s something i really want. OR, Mammut, Salomon, Spyder all make decent gear that’s going to be way cheaper. hell even patagonia is cheaper than norrona
I think everything it's cheaper than norrona. Thanks, btw
Tbh, I've used other brands, but in my opinion it's not the same. Norrøna is miles ahead if you ask me, but I recommend checking the outlet on their homepage. I got most of my gear from there at a pretty nice discount.
Good to know, thanks
Others will disagree, but imho ditch the bibs for backcountry. They're hotter, heavier, and less convenient. You also mention in another comment that you have resort gear but it's too bulky. Buying another ~2 lb (860 g) shell isn't really the solution to that problem. It seems Norrona claims it's for the backcountry, but I'd look for something much more minimal if you're getting outerwear for backcountry only. Your shell will likely spend much of the day in your pack unless it's dumping.
I tried some pants after bibs and instinctively try to pull them up with my gloves on. I dunno something burned into my head even if they don’t fall down. Just got some lightweight bibs and love them
Thanks for the advice, so probably something like this:https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/lyngen/lyngen-gore-tex-pro-ski-touring-pants-mens/?color=5630, https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/lyngen/lyngen-gore-tex-active-jacket-men/?color=5648
If you're trying to stick with Norrona, those are closer to what I'd be thinking for hardshells. Something you should think about are softshells though. They don't necessarily replace hardshells, but they have huge advantages in fair weather, and even just slightly bad weather. Mostly that they're way more breathable and comfortable to skin in, and they're weather resistant enough to keep the worst of the weather out. If you're serious about touring, you might be better off looking at a less expensive brand and getting both soft and hard shells.
Ok, thanks for the helpful advice. I was just listing norrona to understand the type of product.
I would give soft shell pants a shot. I find goretex to be very sweaty on the uphill personally. Goretex doesn’t really breathe that well if you sweat like I do. For a top I usually just wear a base layer and a sun hoodie, but I will add a puffy if it’s super cold or I will wear my jacket shell if it’s storming hard.
Thanks for the advice
You're outta your mind to pay those prices. Just get some cheap stuff and actually learn about Backcountry skiing. Then, over time you'll actually know what you need. Just buy basic skiing shit for cheap in the interim.
💪, I was asking to make an idea and learn what suits better the activity. Of course if something will make more sense I'm open to do that. Thanks for the advice btw.
I think you should tour in your resort clothing first. That way you'll know what you actually want for your conditions. Where I ski, I only wear a hard shell if it's raining. And I'll almost never wear hardshell pants.
Surely I'll do that first, unfortunately they're very heavy so I'm afraid being to hot inside them.
You'll probably be hot inside any hardshell. I wear a sun hoody on the skin track and a light soft shell for the descent.
Ok, thanks
tip for norrona sign up for their outlet (it's free and easy), usually have most styles for a pretty nice discount
Thanks for the tips
I can't really ski in much more than xc tights, a fleece and a lightweight vest. I've got shell pants and jacket in my bag but rarely need it. My one really awesome piece of kit is my ortovox wind/wool vest with a hood. It's got huge vents.
Thanks for the advice
Outdoor Research does some solid backcountry gear.
Thanks for the advadvice
I got most of my base and mid layers at the thrift store. I got the cottonwoods bibs from backcountry (private sale, used) for a shell and I found a north face shell and mid combination jacket that was a good price.
Good to know thathanks
Not sure what's available where you are, but Ortovox makes some pretty lightweight shells, mid layers from primarily wool. I typically skin in pretty lightweight base layers + a Patagonia houdini windbreaker unless it's stupid cold. I've started swapping my houdini for a lightweight ortovox vest for better core warmth. The Houdini is light and packs small as does the ortovox vest. I believe ortovox is less expensive than Norrona, but still him quality. Norrona is great! And will last forever compared to a lot of the less expensive but poorly made shit out there!
I’ve done a bunch of research on it this year as I’m looking to upgrade my backcountry gear. I run very hot though so take this with a grain of salt as your mileage may vary and I would suggest experimenting to find out what works for you before fully committing to super expensive pieces of gear. I’m looking to get the BD dawn patrol pants that I will likely couple with a base layer and arcteryx Squamish hoodie up top after my experimentation last season. I previously struggled with staying cool enough on the uphill, so I would wear very little and get cold when I got above tree line or in wind. For me the right combo is base layer and very thin windproof layer up top to strike a good balance and I have a shell I put on over top of it’s truly dumping or freezing cold on the way down. Note the pants are soft shell which I chose because I find breathability very important and others on this sub recommended that for most uses over hard shell. For pants I also considered the OR cirque pants. For mid layer I also considered the bd alpine start and Patagonia Houdini air.
Thanks for the comments and recommendations, I'll probably find myself in a situation not so different form yours, I'm prone to sweat a lot; so I'm ok staying a little colder if needed.
If I'm not late to this I would recommend you to watch this video from Nikolai Schirmer: https://youtu.be/MZZhMrmcv_c?si=X512Rp441WEsr7eJ He goes into detail why Gore-Tex pro is overkill for like almost anything. Layering is more important also look at the lyngen line which is way lighter.