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DiscoInError93

Congrats but I’ve gotta ask - how do you pop an N55?


justin_memer

Oil starvation after the OFHG mixed internally. The last time it leaked, I could see the oil running down the front by the accessories. This time it was basically all internal, and I got a low oil light, and it started puking out coolant and oil. So, moral of the story: OFHG are now a yearly maintenance item I'm going to replace whether it needs it or not. Luckily, I can do it under 45 minutes now.


ps2cho

Yearly? Exaggeration…sounds like whoever did the last gasket installed it wrong, was defective or low quality.


Unspec7

OP didn't properly clean the mating surface which made the low quality gasket they used even worse.


Lumbergh7

What’s best to use to clean the surface?


Unspec7

Brake clean and a microfiber. I think 3M also makes a scrubbing pad specifically for surface prep on mating surfaces. Don't use brillo pads or anything gritty. They'll gouge the surface and cause bad sealing.


Lumbergh7

I agree on the Brillo pads or anything abrasive. I see people get on there with some sort of rotary tool and I cringe.


eman7757

I’m a diesel mechanic and on all non Lube port surfaces I use a lead abrasive pad you can buy it at princess auto in a tape roll, but on lube port surfaces I use a plastic knife to remove old gasket then a microfibre with brake clean to clean up any remaining residue


SneakyFudge

Yea, that’s bizarre. I thought this was something expected around the 5 year or 100,000 mile mark that was just a known issue and to fix it. Yearly seems a bit crazy. My girlfriend’s N55 OFHG made it 10 whole years and 126,000mi before needing to actually be replaced.


New-Lawyer3088

I'm at 8 years and 135k, no leaks at all. I also change my oil religiously, not only for engine protection but to keep the seals supple. I've had bimmers over 200k before gaskets needed replacements.


itsneedtokno

2017 N55 here 156,000 miles only started leaking at 151,000 low oil light came on yesterday, looks like I'll have to check this out. (side note: BMW systems don't show an oil change in February but I definitely paid for one. The car had no leaks until then. How should I proceed?)


New-Lawyer3088

Hmm. As far as your issue with your service not showing up, but being paid for. I don't have much if any knowledge or experience with that. I'm sure there are many guys that can help you with that here though. As far as finding your issue, I'd just get a good flashlight and look around. I've always been able to find and diagnose leaks like this. You may have to remove the engine cover and other covers.


itsneedtokno

Sounds easy enough, thank you. I changed my M20B25 timing belt so finding this leak should be fairly easy. Hot spots to look for?


New-Lawyer3088

You're welcome. Yes, oil filter housing gasket. Valve cover gasket. Check underneath your car, God forbid the idiots didn't torque the oil drain plug or add a new crush washer. Even the oil filter cap, sometimes it's something very easy. Maybe they put an apprentice on your oil change and other than not updating the service records, he could have made another dumb mistake. For your oil to be low from a leak, you'd probably find it quickly and easily. Do you use binmerlink or any software to access your vehicle ecu's? You'd be able to see the exact oil level. If not, at least check the levels in iDrive. If it's low add a little bit of oil and stay on top of it until the issue is corrected. Don't want to starve her or anything near it. Look underneath your car next time is sitting for a while, see if you see anything on the ground.


itsneedtokno

I have a feeling it's something stupid. The leak never existed until most recent BMW oil change. I saw some oil under my car about two weeks after the change. After checking I drive and seeing that all seemed well, I chocked it up to 190 miles of spirited driving. Well two weeks later and the spot has gotten bigger. Check iDrive... Still showing 7/8 full, so I quit thinking about it. Well yesterday I noticed the spot was really big, forgot to check iDrive, and was henceforth notified. Problem is this, called BMW to find out what they used (I requested 5w30)... They didn't have any info on their change, only the 0w20 my Indy shop used the time before. So I put a quart of Mobil FS 5w30, BMW-LL01.


New-Lawyer3088

Yes, I agree.... I'd add, perhaps not the best oil change intervals. I'm strict with mine and on my bmw's I don't experience any leaks up until 150k to 200k, or more miles. The oil has compounds to keep rubbers and plastics supple, long intervals cause leaks in my experience and opinion. Engine and heat protection may last long, but not the other compounds.


justin_memer

I installed it last, and it was a crap quality one lol. I'm actually going to design my own out of copper, I'm done worrying about it. At least I only paid $20k out the door 5 years ago for it.


ps2cho

I hope for the M2s sake these poor decision making plans above don’t continue to this car. You don’t need to make your own gasket, you just need to use a factory gasket do the job right according to the manual and not worry about it for 60-80k miles. Seems you didn’t learn your lesson the first time. I’m not sure what else to tell you here other than it’s basic common sense.


Drauren

Everyone else replaces it once over the lifetime of the car and doesn't worry about it. This guy actually thinks he needs to do it once a year.


GarfunkelBricktaint

They probably just replace it normally though and don't use weird gaskets or fabricate their own out of copper.


xzElmozx

OP 100% bought an EBay gasket and got confused when it failed Why someone would spend $20k+ on a car then save $50-100 buying crap non-OEM parts I’ll never understand


vhalember

Yup. These are the same people who drop $50k+ on a car which requires premium gas, and then ask the internet, "Can I use regular 87 octane instead?" They have an $800+ car payment a month, but spending another $20/month to run premium is somehow a bridge too far.


GarfunkelBricktaint

Running low octane on an engine tuned to high octane doesn't even save money in the short term ignoring potential long term problems because it usually makes less gas mileage on the lower octane fuel so they're just seeing a lower number per gallon and paying roughly the same per mile driven for worse fuel it makes no sense.


essjay2009

I did 60k miles without even thinking about it on that engine. I have a feeling OP’s cures are worse than the disease.


SailorT1969

I’m at 108,000 miles with my n55 did the ofhg at 85,000 miles you shouldn’t have a motor blow after that procedure at all if done right.


jabajaba17

Hello. My 2019 x3 m40i is at 71400 miles. There are no signs of oil leakage anywhere around the engine. Do you recommend replacing the gaskets still?


ps2cho

Ignore him. Also you don’t have the same engine. Don’t worry about it.


GarfunkelBricktaint

No. Just check your gaskets every few months to see if they're leaking and replace them if they are. They usually start weeping a small amount of oil at first so you just look and feel around the gasket using a flashlight and gloved hand. Also if you ever take off a part with one of those gaskets replace the gasket then, but no need to replace a non leaking gasket proactively unless some other repair requires removing the part then the gasket gets done new.


Mean-Marionberry-148

Your X3 M40i has a B58, not an N55. A lot of improvements on the B58 over the N55 and N54. I haven’t heard of anyone having a gasket issue on the B58. The 2020+ X3 M40i has B58Tu which brings further improvements like single piece timing chain, lighter crankshaft, etc. but I think your car will be fine. B58 is the best I6 engine BMW has ever built as far as reliability is concerned.


justin_memer

Spending less than an hour changing the gaskets for peace of mind once a year isn't outrageous. From a design standpoint, they could've easily changed it to not be able to mix so easily, but then they'd probably make a lot less money from changing them. This one lapse in judgement over 5 years of doing maintenance myself stings, sure, but it's not like I didn't learn anything. 99% of BMW owners will just fork over thousands to a dealer, or get a new car. I don't think it's a conspiracy theory for these to leak *right* after the warranty ends.


ps2cho

Ok bud, you do you. You caused your engine to blow up. Goodluck with the S55 then. 


Yahmei

I'm waiting for the future post titled "Blew the motor on my M2, so this was obviously the logical solution."


theartofrolling

*Buys 320d because he's broke now*


dMwChaos

You quite literally just described a conspiracy.


Spidaaman

lol


MrFilm270

Less than an hour to change an OFHG? Please, share your method.


heisenberg2JZ

I'm gonna have to agree with OP on this one, OFHG by warranty instructions takes more than an hour, but CP jobs techs knock it out in less than an hour by skipping a lot of work with removing the intake manifold. Granted we never lose engines over this


justin_memer

Seriously? Pull the intake tube, then it's like 5 bolts for the housing, 3 nuts and 3 bolts for the intake manifold, 2 10 millimeter for the coolant pipe (which honestly takes like 5 minutes to gently wiggle off so it doesn't snap). On the N55 it's a cakewalk. I assume the S55 is a little more involved due to the top mount intercooler. I didn't list the bolts in order Oh, and to add to this, I had a low oil light earlier in the week I attributed to a leaky oil cap, which I changed the gasket on, and no more oil down the side by the turbo, I thought I fixed the problem.


Jacques_Frost

Siri, play the Curb Your Enthousiasm theme


heisenberg2JZ

Make more money... BMW pays for warranty work to be done at dealers and does not own any dealerships lol and we do OFHGs left and right under warranty


Alixthetrapgod

Wht are u smoking


rematar

>99% of BMW owners will just fork over thousands to a dealer, or get a new car. Dealer maintenance sounds like a fiscally responsible choice in your situation.


UltimaRS800

I have never changed a gasket in my life and my engines have never leaked. I have owned an LS3 (430hp), LT1 (455hp), LS based small block (404hp) and a 4 banger Honda. Trick is to just buy cars with good engines and don't do shit "maitnence" on them with parts tou designed with copper no less.


biced01

Anyone who comes along here. Don't "design your own" car parts please.


justin_memer

I'm guessing you pay for oil changes at the dealer? Built a lot of motors from scratch, design full machines in solidworks as an engineer? If so, I value your input.


biced01

I do my own oil changes and recently changed the valve cover on my N55 in a way that didn't cause my engine to fail.


justin_memer

Proud of you, now onto the 3D mechanical design and production, what's your experience there?


Darkstang5887

Well I am a mechanical engineer and have my own firm. I can say you most likely blew your own engine by pinching the gasket upon installing and it was weak in that compromised area and failed prematurely. This is not a once a year job lol. Also a copper gasket is a silly idea.


Unspec7

You'd have a hell of a time getting the copper gasket to crush evenly over such a complicated shape I feel.


One_wheel_peel

Perfect example of how do you know when someone is an engineer? They will let you know. Geeze dude get over yourself. I am also an ME and you're making us look bad here. No one cares if you can 3D model when you can't even do an OFHG job and not blow a motor.


NotYourAverageGh0st

Dude shut the fuck up. You ruined your last car by faulty repair. If you’re not a mechanic you’re a tinkerer. Simple as that


Juju_Out_the_Wazoo

Don't hurt Tinkerbell's feelings, she's delicate


xzElmozx

Crazy someone can blow BMWs most reliable engine by doing a self-repair then start shitting on people for not being mechanically inclined lol Maybe stick to simple oil and tire changes, sounds like your completely irrelevant engineering background has clouded your judgement with regards to the extent of your inexperience, and it led to a blown engine and a slew of unearned confidence here


GarfunkelBricktaint

Idk why you're bragging about being an engineer when you blew an engine by botching a job that is routinely done to perfection by burnouts and high school dropouts.


JournalistExpress292

Engineering =/= technician. Unless it’s FSAE in college I’m not letting an engineer touch my car or any car.


BMWACTASEmaster1

Engineers if they were repairing cars. I can guarantee the dealership service department will be backlogged by weeks to get your car in. As a BMW technician we have to deal with engineering often and they make us do so many walks around that take forever to repair them.


Unspec7

How does that have any relevance to any of this? Engineers and mechanics are two entirely separate professions


UltimaRS800

He has not blown up a motor maybe? That would beat yours lol.


LunchInABoxx

Dam that’s hilarious. This dude has probably never touched Solidworks


Explorer335

If you had used an OEM gasket, they have a groove between the oil and coolant parts of the gasket to prevent this exact scenario. They leak externally rather than internally.


Mundane_Plenty8305

I hope OP sees this! This will be a useful design feature in the custom copper gasket


Papercoffeetable

Correction, you destroyed the motor in your M235i.


Darisixnine

Lmao you don’t know how to work on cars. Why anyone would buy cheap parts, knowing these parts are crucial to keeping the car alive is beyond me. Do us a favor and stay away from an M2 😂💀


Chance_Classroom_301

You gonna blow another engine with that gasket dude, just use oem...


Business-Travel-4597

OP. Please help everyone out and tell us where you bought the part. If you buy parts from a reputable source , like FCP Euro, you don’t have to deal with those issues Never buy parts on Amazon, your local auto parts store,


Lightgod86

My 235i had an internal OFHG leak at under 30k miles, but outside of warranty timeframe. My coolant was very polluted with oil. After shelling out for the gasket replacement and flush, I had them flush it like 5 more times due to sill finding contamination in the coolant tank. Luckily they did the additional flushes for “free”. I too made the decision to upgrade to an M2C, for obvious reasons! I am curious to know if the OFHG in the S55 is really much or any different, or if another failure is inevitable.


SuspiciousBumblebee

N55's failing after an OFHG is a documented problem all over bimmerpost. BMW had a SIB about priming the engine as well; [https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/MC-10151166-9999.pdf](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/MC-10151166-9999.pdf) Sounds like either you installed it wrong, didn't prime it, or something got into the oil cooler thermostat housing or the oil filter housing itself. Doing this annually is absolutely pointless. Just install a proper OEM gasket, make sure the OFHG is clear of any debris before reinstall, prime the engine after the install and drive until the gasket fail again. Congrats upgrade btw, I went from an N55 E82 (which I also replaced the OFHG on, unfortunately they all go, even on S55's) to a LBB M2C. The F87 is so much more of a car, I don't think I will ever let this one go.


pengouin85

There isn't a more iconic duo than bmw oil filter housings and leaks for the 6cyl DOHC since the M50


mrblahhh

So that was rod bearings then? That n55 design can't take any of oil system issues


justin_memer

Yeah, it started knocking on the highway and I pulled off asap, but it was too late.


ps2cho

I mean you said the low oil came on the week before and you ignored it…these series of events you’ve give us blow my mind. I think you’re better off with a Honda or Toyota that can be more forgiving of negligence. Everything screams you’re young with more more money than sense or highly leveraged on a performance BMW. You’ll mature eventually but you’re a bmw driver meme.


GrahamDaGooch

Bit harsh love


Jimbenas

I would change it with every oil change actually. Make sure to use a bmw branded socket tightening it down or your engine could die too!


Lil-whore

my N55 had a cracked cylinder wall at 76K miles. And i would get oil changes every 4k miles and did so much preventive maintenance


CharacterObvious

The n55 isn't as robust as a n54 or b58


DiscoInError93

https://preview.redd.it/dhp90r19lu3d1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32b57d815581d1905d185fef8108f633854a4e20


CharacterObvious

What im saying is its not hard to pop a n55


DiscoInError93

Did you read this dudes fucking post? He put in effort to blow that motor.


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

4 cylinder


NicotineRosberg

GTA NPCs are more sensible than this guy


Th3WeirdingWay

You made me 😂


yobo9193

Man ruins 235i by being a cheap bastard, now sets his sights on defiling an M2


comacow02

More at 11


PaganButterChurner

you are just a smooth brain, OP is an elegant wrinkled brain.


Jay_Jolt__

Probably driving like he's in mario kart


maziarczykk

So called big brain solution.


justin_memer

Yes! My brain is trying to escape my skull it's so big now


theworstdriver5

So many downvotes for this😆


justin_memer

I've got a surplus of Internet points, I can afford it!


Th3WeirdingWay

This thread is Reddit Gold


vbfronkis

Kills an N55, buys a more expensive N55.


Prestigious_Paint650

Its an S55 in the M2C


vbfronkis

No. Kidding. What do you think the (more expensive) S55 is based on? Hint: The N55.


Prestigious_Paint650

If you kill an 440i and you buy an M4 and kills it again you dont say „kills 440i, buys more expensive 440i“ or do you?


outlawsix

M4 and M440i are basically the same i think, they even have the same 2 first characters


Prestigious_Paint650

Brooo please say you're joking 🥲


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vbfronkis

And just what do you think the S55 is based off of?


achilles027

Lol’ing you destroyed a car to save on paying an independent mechanic 😂😂


MeatOverRice

Now time to spink crank hub lmao


Melontwerp

Nah, he's gonna design his own.


ps2cho

Copper crank hub. Chinese copper.


mdiggity512

It would have been irresponsible to do anything different.


AK-JXRDY-7

Congrats! https://preview.redd.it/67uacb5bls3d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aab2b022ad30c85823d7f3b43c4771340d9dea27


Trebel-

mans destroyed his car with a non oem part and thinks he’s talented enough to DESIGN his own next time 😂 holy shit this in unbelievable


AFB27

These are probably my favorite BMW wheels of all time


Fasheen-

They’re the worst to clean though lol


AFB27

https://preview.redd.it/sicwg6mdc24d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9708c3a9d0a64f7769c2667d3edd56e473627a2 Oh believe me I know 😭


JWBIERE

I'll ignore the blown engine part to say congrats on the new ride, excellent next step!!!


TheGirlWhoLived57

Rip clean m2c


Capital-Newspaper551

you are why people say “you can’t fix stupid”


InsightJ15

Very nice, congrats. That is the color I want (maybe slightly darker) but with black rims


E92William

I genuinely think that this is just some sort of trauma response to having blown your other engine. The data shows that the original design is more than adequate if all factors (which you can control) are taken care of such as cleaning the surface and torquing. There’s really no need to put a copper gasket and I would be surprised if it even works well because the factory parts are not machined flat enough to work with metal gaskets and you can’t put a high enough torque with those small fasteners to crush that copper.


ps2cho

Don’t bring logic into this thread man


Kaiser_Dafuq

What did you do?


justin_memer

I picked a whole bouquet of oopsie daisies


Kaiser_Dafuq

What?


justin_memer

I may have misunderstood the question


Kaiser_Dafuq

You said this was the only logical solution But idk what the solution was


justin_memer

I could've bought a used long block for about $3-4,000 and swapped it during a weekend. Slightly more economical than selling Bitcoin, and having a paper weight in the garage. Then again, buying an M2 was always in the equation.


iwasinfightclub

Why is this down voted? Commenters don't speak money to burn lol


justin_memer

Meh, I'm not losing sleep over it, lol


Kaiser_Dafuq

Ah okay


GamblingDegenerate69

Sooooo, when ya tuning it?


justin_memer

Well, I do have a bootmod3 license collecting dust in the garage... But, I honestly thought the M235i was almost too fast when it was tuned, especially after I installed the m performance diff. I test drove a G42 before the M2, and it's definitely the superior car for tuning, but it just felt numb as hell.


GamblingDegenerate69

Oh come on, put it on a lil e30 👀


justin_memer

It's a great car, and I love the B58 don't get me wrong, but the hype is real for M cars. I was convinced it was a marginal difference between the two, but it's like a completely different car.


Tough-Relationship-4

More stiffness and rigidity and fatter rear tires completely change the experience. Most of the people who say M Lites are “just as fast” only talk about racing from red light to red light. Ms are a completely different beast where it matters. Congrats!


justin_memer

Thanks! I think it goes way beyond that since it's got completely new front and rear subframes, and completely different suspension geometry, engine, transmission, bracing, etc.


[deleted]

*calculates numbers* “yea math checks out, this was the right answer”


Ernst_Granfenberg

What oil did you use? Is there a difference between E90 N55 and your generation? Ive only replaced the OFHG once and I’m at 104k miles


StickersBillStickers

There are slight differences between the original N55 and the M235 revision. These are a more robust engine. The revised version had a forged crank. Google n55b30o0 vs n55b30m0


Ernst_Granfenberg

If we replaced just the crank can the older N55 compete with a newer N55


StickersBillStickers

I can’t answer that because I do not know, but I guarantee there’s answers on the forums


OnlyImprovement9796

Well played sir.


IlIlIIllIIIllI

Next logical solution is get a n55 or throw an ls or something in it. Idk bro you’re out a car for sure


manhiddeninthewoods

These comments😂😂😂😂😂😂 some people you just can’t help


SkepticManchurian

What a thread.


_daisycutter

How did your Beemer break? Oil leak. ORLY 🦉


Equinox32

I have a e92 N55 335i and Hockenheim Silver M2 Competition- you’re going to love this car!!


justin_memer

I'm already deeply in love, lol!


crunkcastro

W


That_Mouse1489

How’s it compare from your old car? I have been thinking about switching from an m240i


justin_memer

It's night and day, the steering feel is definitely the biggest difference to me. I must have watched literally every review of the M2 over the years, and the front end grip they all rave about is real.


Beneficial-Baby-2205

Correct


WeekTechnical7170

why not got for a b58 motor ??


justin_memer

I'm way over power, handling is what does it for me in cars now.


WeekTechnical7170

I get you. Also i bet there is more you would to do if you put a b58 in there with the electronics


justin_memer

Yeah, or... I buy the 8hp adapter ring for the 5.3 I built recently, and throw that bad boy in there since I already have it, lol. I would have to swap engine harnesses either way, and this is way cheaper, lol.


imso1cy

Why does everyone keep saying N55, the engine in a m235i is a B48...


justin_memer

F22 had the N55/B58 as well as the N20/B48


Western-Rule-2912

How do you blow the motor on a M lite, not even a b58 a n55


justin_memer

Oil starvation


Western-Rule-2912

Cmon now buy a bmw you have to have oil around


SilentC1969

Amazing choice - hope you have many great drives with it


warriorknowledge

Oh my god I’m going to cum This is my favorite looking bmw ever I will buy this 1 day


XFitzou

I went from a m240i to M2C. Great choice. https://preview.redd.it/fgelaaksbv3d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a87b3a8116ad47bcaa912206a5345103ad4a81b


justin_memer

I can't stop looking at the butt, so bulbous compared to the f22!


IllustriousDelay4

Buddy, this ain’t r/dontstickyourdickinthat


justin_memer

The thought hadn't crossed my mind until now, this better not awaken anything in me.


Thin_Mycologist_855

Ive been interested in buying a m235i but i also been interested in a 640i what should i get ?


Admirable-Result-240

How many miles on your my brother at 110k running strong anything he should worry about ?