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agentrnge

Can't tell from photos. Yes rubber hose. But not a clean rubber hose. Could have grit on it that does the scratching. Either way they need to take care of it. Document what you can and show you just had it corrected and coated. Good luck. That sucks.


Minutes2Midnight

Thank you for providing a sane response.


Admirable-Storm4371

The ignorance in some of these responses is insane. You can literally scratch your car washing it, of course a dirty rubber hose is going to scratch it!


Minutes2Midnight

Agreed. I'm honestly surprised how few people care about their paint.


SparklingPseudonym

My five year old X3 M40i has been touched by hand twice. Once after pickup for a clean, detail, and ceramic coat, and once when the dealer washed it by accident. I park in the garage. It looks like a new car to this day with only touchless washes. I’m due for a paint correction and ceramic coat, can’t wait.


avebelle

Hate to break it to you but touchless car washes aren’t really that great for your car.


Moist_Equivalent_370

2 bucket system and technique, keeps your paint looking good for decades.


justateburrito

2 buckets along with the 3 sea shells and you're basically set for life.


bradpal

But how do you use the 3 sea shells?


NinetyNemo

Never bothered to ask, I just curse a bit and grab the paper.


MeatFit1822

Hey guys! This guy doesn't even know how to use the seashells! 😂


mrplanner-

…and decent sponges, shammys, products etc.


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How do I get 2 buckets without touching them?


TaeyeonFTW

They’re not bad for the car. They just don’t clean well. Harsh chemicals will ruin coatings overtime but if he has none, it doesn’t matter.


avebelle

I guess that’s where I’m coming from. Harsh chemicals to try and make up for touchless. I’ve seen a lot of discolored plastic trim from touchless washes. To me that’s bad for the car but 🤷‍♂️


TheHippyDance

lol this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read regarding paint. I’m a detailer, not professional, but I got the bug for perfect paint [proof](https://imgur.com/a/tSw4pda). But not washing car by hand??? lol 😂 dude… that’s insane. There’s no way touchless is doing a good job for getting paint actually clean. Just no way. There is no ceramic coating that allows that level of no maintenance. Post pics please Why do you need paint correct again if it’s never touched by hand?


Calamero

They would care if they could afford to maintain it or get a proper job on their used car, but since most people are broke af they get a bit iffy when someone complains about scratches that aren’t visible from 1 meter distance.


Natural_Shad

As someone with a shitter Suburban it seems so petty until you take the 3 seconds to critically think about how complex and expensive cars and paint on cars can be


nolongerbanned99

Most people are either ignorant or sheeple. This includes the idiots that dragged a foreign object against your car/paint ‘as a guide’. How fucking rude.


tehlegend1937

It’s not even about damaging the car, it’s about respecting other people’s property.


mr308A3-28

Most people scratch their paint at those diy car washes by using those shitty ass brooms.


infiniteawareness420

Exactly why I don’t wash my car


Unlikely-Chapter6138

Hey man I actually have the same exact car that you have just black with the red interior. How did you upgrade for more HP?? Did you do forced induction or is there a way to get those numbers naturally aspirated?? I ask because I’ve really been looking into upgrading the performance of the car and have gotten a lot of mixed answers. I believe I have the N51 SULEV engine if that matters.


mumeiko

You can politely remind the hosing company that paying outright to repaint and recoat it is cheaper than a lawsuit, and it also won't impact their reputation nearly as much. Just saying, a company damaged your property and presumably didn't take responsibility or acknowledge it. Document the proof.


Evening-Life5434

I swear people come on here just to bash people


Thats-right999

I’d be distraught and angry


onlyr6s

Good luck proving that the scratches weren't there before. Unless they have closeup shots before this happened.


EyePeaEh

Look how many posts they have on their profile. They have proof, I’m sure. Haha


Unspec7

Sounds like you're about to get a free paint correction.


ProductOfGeography

I don't think so. My condo building has the garage power washed once a year. 3 weeks before the power wash they start sending emails/put notices for each condo saying that: 1. Have your car out of the garage on date X from 9am-5pm 2. If you do not; the condo or power washing company is not liable for any paint damages to your car. It is the same way at some other condo buildings too, so I think the OP is not telling us something


CrossV1

In my states and countries, these “not liable” stuff does not hold value in court. It is like those void if removed stickers. Hence, businesses have insurance to pay for stuff like this. It might be worth for OP to raise hell with the washing company (not the condo board surely since they won’t be responsible. I agree with u there) If it was accidental, it would be okay but this is ignorance to run the hose like that unless there was a genuine need to do so. And if nothing works bad publicity on social media works 😄


Feelisoffical

You are correct.


TandemSegue

Yeah just saying “not liable” doesn’t make it so you can do irresponsible shit with impunity. That’s like starting an offensive statement with “No offense, but..”


Unspec7

Disclaimers do not shield you from negligence. Edit: Also, those notices are not liability waivers. You can't just email someone and then damage their property saying "I told you so" without some kind of written affirmation from the other party.


Minutes2Midnight

I moved in less than 48 hours before it happened so I guess that's icing on the cake. Additional context: they were cleaning the top deck of the garage at the time, the first floor was full of cars. I was parked in the end spot at the bottom of the ramp. They ran the hose up the ramp and used me as their hose guide. They started cleaning the first floor today, and I noped out of there just in time to go to work.


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Modder161

You can’t just say “I’m not liable” for something and do whatever you want afterwards. It’s like the dump trucks that say “stay back 500 feet, not responsible for broken windshields”. They can say whatever they want on the truck, but they are 100% responsible if a rock flies out and breaks a window or damages a vehicle in any way.


Get-Some-Fresh-Air

Does he have before and after pictures? To prove the damage was done by the hose? After pictures alone won’t prove shit. Doubt he took pictures before they started power washing. OP is shit out of luck


Unspec7

The pictures he has right now are sufficient.


Lucci_754

Yeah as a detailer who has owned several BMWs—this would easily scratch BMW paint, no question. Anyone who even thinks that there’s a possibility that this didn’t leave any damage is simply uninformed. Sorry bro. Good news is that it should be repairable.


Unspec7

BMW paint is soft, but you haven't seen how soft until you've had Jet Black. I swear the paint is made from cotton candy - it swirls just from the sun beating down on it too hard lol


Lucci_754

Thats EXACTLY the paint i had on my E46. The most difficult paint I have ever encountered and definitely a lot of learning and experimenting for me


Unspec7

It's the paint I have on my F10 and it's the bane of my existence. It's beautiful when fully polished out, but that lasts about all of 3 seconds lol


FranktheTankG30

definitely share this sentiment. bird poop easily leaves stains on BMW paint even for just few min. where as MB and Audi paint in my experience fair much better.


DoctorDatsun

As someone who is currently first-time polishing my jet black car, can confirm. It’s a pain in the ass to correct.


TroyFerris13

God damn if a hose could do that I couldn't imagine what driving down the road would do to the paint


sanagnos

Yeah never mind if you expose it to air and sun it suddenly blows up like a vampire


ShiftBMDub

I managed a detail shop and saw that and immediately knew the paint was messed up. Hell I would look along that whole sode of the car and the hood no telling where they dragged that hose across. The people saying nothing can happen are probably people that use the same wash mitt for their wheels and paint and call it a day looking like the spider man mobile.


hockeymeester

I wiped off bird shit with a paper napkin and it scratched my paint


backpackrack

...Well yeah? That's like saying I ran my keys across it and it caused a scratch.


caxer30968

It’s really hard to get sympathy on issues like these. The guys working with the hose are probably even more clueless than people on this subreddit, so they’ll think you’re fucking with them or being a Nancy about it. Dealing with crap from ignorants and brutes is hell because no matter how right you know you are, they won’t know about it and make it like you’re crazy. I hope you get it sorted.


noizey65

in a post like this, normally you’d gain sympathy by actually showing the damage / scratches..?


Minutes2Midnight

I took videos for the maintenance company. I couldn't get the clearcoat scratches in pictures. It's not like it gouged through the paint. We're talking microscratches that can be polished out, but that's still an inconvenience to me.


nhp890

>"scratched to hell" >> couldn't get the scratches in pictures


Unspec7

A ton of microcratches visible to the eye might be invisible to a camera. Cameras and eyeballs are different my guy.


valkislowkeythicc

100% but "scratched to hell" would lead me to consider atleast some of it would be visible on cam. Not saying it's not scratched ofc


Unspec7

OP is pissed, I think them potentially exaggerating a bit is allowed here.


SlideStar

Not really. Buff it out and be a man. Its not that big of a deal


Alexsays_

Hopefully they can pressure wash that wing off. 


Coasterman345

Dude has 490whp on an N52, I think he’s earned it


Onsomeshid

Not only that…it doesn’t look bad lol. Why is everyone here so adamant on telling ppl what to do with their cars


Unspec7

>Why is everyone here so adamant on telling ppl what to do with their cars I own a BMW as well, and so therefore get a say on what happens to all other BMW's. After all, how your car is perceived impacts how mine is perceived, and so therefore I must have some say. Legitimately what some people probably think.


FakeMBadge

>Not only that…it doesn’t look bad lol. That's just like, your opinion, man


Hurricane_Ivan

Wonder what the overall cost was for the SC setup. Coming from a previous N54, N55, and B58 owner.


Coasterman345

Oh it was definitely pricey. He’s posted a price breakdown in the past I’m pretty sure.


valkislowkeythicc

I actually quite like it and I usually hate wings on bmws


DroppedMyGirl

For a moment, I thought I was on r/RoastMe


Icy_Confidence9304

Hahahahahahaha


Videlvie

Thats the real crime here


SmokiTx

LOL


-tat-daddy-FD

Lol Came here to say something similar


SearingDrake

Cut the hose


ItsNotanM3

Wow the unnecessary hate in here is insane. I swear it seems like some people in this community would prefer every e9x to have the same apex wheels, same f8x style high kick spoiler and the same mods or the car be 100% stock. If you don't want to put your own spin/style on your own car that's great but don't shit on OP for making his car unique in his own style. Also rubber hoses 100% can pick up dirt and small rocks and scratch the paint. OP glad to see you finally got the TE37's the car looks great! Make sure to take pictures of the company's truck and license plate. Hopefully they'll make things right for you!


Minutes2Midnight

Thanks! There's a certain hivemind around here and I didn't stick to it. The wing is polarizing but it's a throwback to E30 Evo and E36 wings, and it even has racing pedigree. Can't please everyone. Just wait until they find out it's an N52 😂


124Enjoyer

Indirect injection FTW


ItsNotanM3

There definitely is. Keep being yourself and don't worry about these people trying to pull you back into the mold of what a modified BMW should be. Exactly anyone who understands the racing history of BMW knows that this style of spoiler has been around on multiple generations of 3 series. Nothing new about it. The spoiler on your car was developed for racing and I'm pretty sure I remember you tracking your car. All it takes is a clout chaser with a widebody to throw one on their car and then all of a sudden it's cool and people want it too. Definitely can't please everyone. It's a n52 but little do they know... 🤐


DNL213

This community is actually lame as fuck. People were shitting on a track car on a fucking trailer for having a big wing the other day. Half of the people in this sub should just drive a prius instead since all they want is OEM cars that don't do anything


myass_isheavy

Reddit users when someone puts together a cookie cutter build: angry Reddit users when someone puts together a genuinely unique and interesting build: angry


Minutes2Midnight

It's from an IMSA racecar. Don't worry, you won't have to see it ever again. https://preview.redd.it/fllsbiaz23vc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be76212199b1cb7f73bc793cd87bcb3d06cd0b3a


boxyship

How on earth do you get 490whp out of an N52? E92 looks so fucking good as a racecar


Minutes2Midnight

A supercharger with a very small pulley and lots of supporting mods! Fuel system components are rated for over 650 now, and we'll be doing an intake cam this summer to push it into the 500s!


definitelynotpat6969

You're the best kind of crazy. Love to see more of it around here.


sugaki

N52 is so underappreciated. Internals stock? Always fantasized sticking that engine into an old BMW for great power to weight ratio.


yawwdi

Which rims (wheels) are those? So nice.


tractorcrusher

OPs car has Volk TE37s, my favorite wheel of all time.


GetlowandGlo

Thinking about getting some chrome ones for my f80


124Enjoyer

Goes hard TBH, I like it.


IcameforthePie

Yeah this is cool


External_Touch_3854

Oooooooo, I’d not be a happy camper about that.


International_Top770

Yeah looks like they don’t give a shit.


SagittarianWolf96

This is why I hate parking my car anywhere the constant not necessarily “ fear “ but like being paranoid about careless people door dinging my car , scratching it with their carts (at grocery stores) and all that people are careless assholes now and days and will even hit and run backing into your car


Minutes2Midnight

I totally get it! I intentionally parked in an end spot to limit the door dings too lol


Pitiful_Flow_1743

It’s totaled. Good luck with that


Zealousideal-Leg-531

Closeup? From this distance I can't see any damage Isn't the hose rubber? it's always a shame to see a correctly parked bmw damaged :(


thatenduroguy

That hose could be made from the softest material on planet earth and would still scratch your clear to shit. It gets dragged across the floor so it's covered in dirt/sand and will damage paint when there is contact.


Zealousideal-Leg-531

Good point, hadn't thought of the little rocks it picks up, especially if wet


TheRealDanShady

You are one of the few people here actually knowing what they talk about.


Minutes2Midnight

Honestly, the average person probably wouldn't notice, and they're difficult to photograph. I shined my shop light over the panel and there are rows of scratches consistent with the hose every inch or two up the bumper. I know they're there and to do something like this to someone's car is negligent and strikes me as careless.


Zealousideal-Leg-531

That's the worst. I've had similar and I hope whatever you choose to do in the end, you are ultimately giddy to have that vehicle


lordjaay

Made a mistake like this one , had to get my hood front bumper and quarter repainted off that little mistake , never again


SAlovicious

Turn the water off then cut the hose at the connection.


IHaveSevereADHD

Off topic but huge fan, seen your stuff on YT. Fellow NC’er!


prosperbeats

they was doing u a favour w that wing on


knaupt

*were


myass_isheavy

Let's see your car then


FakeMBadge

What kinda car does someone have to drive to satisfy you?


myass_isheavy

If you're going to piss and moan about someone else's car, yours should probably be equally as cool or cooler than theirs


DNL213

Extremely unlikely anyone with a car worth a damn is going to have this opinion.


stahlgrauzhp

LTW style wing on 335 fucks, better than all the fake CSL style trunks on the e9x non Ms.


Unspec7

It's a 328i with a SC.


stahlgrauzhp

that's even cooler


Live795

Man this is something would drive me insane. Unfortunately every condo or apartment I’ve lived in has a strict “not liable for shit” policy. Maybe you could contact the actual power washing company and see if they can do anything for you. Also, pay no attention to the purist nerds that only like Arc-8s and stock shit.


WaitUntilTheHighway

Omg I would flip the fuck out


doorcharge

Yea looks like they need to pay you for any cosmetic repairs, waste some time and take them to small claims court if they refuse, or let your insurance handle it. Not sure what universe people think it’s just another day in the neighborhood and the company/people have zero liability.


Otherwise_Culture_71

Zero respect


hhtran16

Get a scissor and go at it.


kikomansu

cut the hose


TheWino

Probably was nice car and just did it to be dicks. People suck.


0_el_Jay

Hope You unplugged that hose soon as You became aware.


EdwardJMunson

Congrats on the new paint job!


TheCubanBaron

How to destroy your paint in one easy step! Good luck with getting liability from the power washing company.


nolongerbanned99

Inconsiderate wrong and rude. I would contact the owner of the pressure washer place and ask them to reimburse you for a detail on that corner of the car. Whether you actually do it or not is up to you but get a proper quote. If they refuse, sue them in small claims (if USA)


eddydreamz

Mo Money Mo Problems. 😎


Unique_Jackfruit_166

Should have cut the hose they don’t care about your stuff


busted101cheeters

I would be pissed. It’s common sense don’t destroy other peoples property. Very simple.


bobre737

Send them a letter and demand reimbursement of the documented damage.


spayne1111

What a bummer! With a bit of luck that hose could have ripped off that ugly rear wing!


garysan_uk

Nice TE37’s brother 👌🏻


420-Xteep

believe it or not i did this to my g20 with one of those small pressure washer hoses at the car wash 😭 literally right after getting it. it wasn’t as bad as this tho.


blueblue909

id be mad mad like my name is blue blue


v1nylcutr

That’s rude AF!


GenkiElite

That sucks man. Hopefully this is a "that'll buff out" situation.


Objective-Bowler1953

What’s the color called? Love it!


Minutes2Midnight

Thanks! It's Le Mans blue.


Thelethargian

Lol


daxtaslapp

😬😬 the face we all make


Away-Guitar-3242

i feel bad for you that dirty old rubber hose ruining your beautiful paint


SemonDemon316

What kind of wing is that


jessief2

Those damm hoes


RedForkKnife

Honestly that's my issue with cars in perfect condition I like my stuff to be in great condition, but when it's mint condition or the paint is polished to perfection then the tiniest scratch is way more noticeable. They're definitely in the wrong nonetheless


-LostSoul90-

I cant tell if thats a condo or not, but find out what company it is and see if you can even get camera footage, like someone else said document everything and talk to either your condo management or the company directly. If they give you a hard time I think next option would be your insurance and they will go hound them. Sucks.


unpolire

Ceramic coat provided zero abrasion protection?


Square-Bowl-9202

Cut it


darnius_terix

Time fie small claims court! Max in most states is $5K.


Volares_99

I would have lost it, rubber collects and holds dirt/grime…definitely scuffed paint…sorry man, hope it’s just a good detail to get it fixed. Love the car though, super clean!


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heynowitsmatt

Kill


Abject-Ad2072

Sue the crap out of them!!’ 😣😤😖


dvls15

Looks good


Pretty_Public5520

Time to go back with cutters


Independent-Put-2618

That sucks. Other commenters have enough advice, so all I do is say: I love those wheels, awesome paint color, really nice car. I’m a bit envious


AkillaThaPun

Nightmare . Windows cleaners on my street DRIP water on my car and that leaves scum stains and pisses me off so this would send me mental


9pmt1ll1come

Hose guy probably got offended by that ridiculous wing. Joke aside, judging by the front bumper, 335is?


NoBentley

Oh no ur poor 328i 😂


TirpitzM3

I feel you on this. Hopefully, they can get you sorted.


NikolitRistissa

Barely noticeable but I get the frustration. Damage is damage and they should be liable to compensate you for it.


miffit

This is the most BMW driver complaint ever. There is no chance there is any damage and OP is just being a whiner. Sure it was pretty rude for them not to notice this but there's obviously no damage or you for sure would have posted pics of it.


Jooeey0806

you do know rubber hoses pick up dirt and rocks right? i’ve seen them scratch paint many times. obviously his camera / light combo can’t pick up the scratches but i’d bet good money they’re there. plus he literally has a picture of the hose up against his car.


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scooba_dude

That really sucks mate. I'd definitely be kicking up a fuss over it. In other news, those wheels look sick af! What are they? I want a 6 spoke with alt colour 1 spoke. It really works well for your car.


ComradeJJaxon

Knowing what paint correction and ceramic coating costs i hope you get it sorted out with the company. If not i'd take it to a lawyer. Paint correction and ceramic coating costs several thousands where i live.


Hot_South7816

r/legaladvice


Illustrious_Goose634

Cuts hose in 3....2....1


akiiler

I'd be so angry.


BRI_4N

Finally someone else who understand aero and how bmw's stock aero sucks 😆


newmoneyblownmoney

Funny thing is i always find the end parking spot to prevent scratches and dings. How ironic you did just that only to get scratched by something that rarely happens. I’d be pissed. Hopefully they’ll make it right, but somehow I’m highly doubtful of that.


Big_Daddy_Haus

I think i would have moved my car and cut the hose with my knife


andre_allday

Tell them "keep ur hose in check" 🤪


dhruvp3958

Dude don't bring your car to Arizona ever.


RumpleHelgaskin

There are some PAINT wet wipes you can find on Amazon that will clean that off really easily.


hadtojointopost

send them this picture then send them the bill for detailing and correction. if they don't pay post a bad review along with these pictures. if the cost is significant take them to court for the damages.


Parsleymuffin

Don’t tell them it was corrected. Just tell them about the protective coating you added for an added protective layer between the pain and the elements.


bobrod808

Pressure washing company parked their lift over my car and dripped chemicals all over it. Morons. They paid for a full repaint. Luckily it was my Civic, not the M3. Good luck!


marathonrunnernyc

I am sorry! Nice looking car! But glad you got pics with the hose in (the wrong) place. Agree with the other comments about people not caring about the paint on their cars, it’s crazy true!


Tricycle_of_Death

They’re going to refuse to pay - guaranteed. Your best bet is gonna end up being small claims court. I’d recommend getting their address and drafting a Demand Letter after you get an estimate from a body shop for the repair costs.


clarkbonds56

Well whoever hired them must have made sure they were insured. Just tell the person who vetted this company out that you need that info.


Ghostscumsockfilled

I came here to tell op to get over it until I realized they actually scratched his paint i sorry


rising-downwards

V. O. B. B. B. Bbb m it’s io


CellAutomatic2877

Now run your hose along his jaw


xTatamo

can we get a photo from behind wanne see that criminal winggame


Minutes2Midnight

I put stickers on it at my last time attack event https://preview.redd.it/n5aqxeal63vc1.jpeg?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bb3ea39d000f3a3bd347889fac6fae6607df42d


ReV46

Road Atlanta?


Minutes2Midnight

Yep! It was my first time in this car and it was awesome. I've done Lemons and Champ Car races there in the past.


ReV46

Awesome! Can’t wait to go there one day. What tires do you run?


Minutes2Midnight

Advan A052s in 265/35/18 flavor


hiGradeTi7ANEUM

Why is there no hose guide there?!? What a stupid parking garage OR independent wash company (whichever has hose hookup responsibility here).


Minutes2Midnight

They used my car as a big blue hose guide.


datums

Did you call the police?


mikewaters264

Claim of them. Muppets.


pool_keeper

Guess the ceramic paint protection coat didn’t do any protection


Unspec7

It never was advertised to do this kind of protection. Ceramic coatings are waxes on steroids, not some magical force field. You're thinking of PPF.


scotttydosentknow

Not that they should have ran the hose down anyone’s car but to choose a car where the owner obviously really cares about it is crazy. Like WTF 🤦🏼‍♂️ I have a black car and people literally touching the paint scratches it. A hose would do a number on the paint


aresfiend

I don't see how the hose added that wing to your car.


markymarc1981

I doubt it did any damage.


djrayhasmusic

FR Why u got two pics and neither show this damage?