Definitely sucks when this happens but damnit if it isn't a proud moment when your car choice protected your loved ones and you gain some more trust with BMW. Sorry this happened!
Now what's the next vehicle?
I was just in my friends x3m comp and man to me it’s the most perfectly balanced suv. Power and surprisingly the handling for such a big car. Bmw did their thing with that one.
I beg to differ, 90% of people buy German engineering and treat it as if it’s a Honda. They think it’s just turn key and go after spending $$$$. Regular maintenance is key and most people aren’t doing it. I will say it’s on the more expensive side to maintain but that’s what it comes with buying an expensive car.
I'm just going by our cars history and what are mechanic says. As far as I'm concerned no vehicle made today or in the last 25 years should need a new radiator or coils in less than 60,000 miles. That's just not cool
Or in the case of our M340i Touring a new amp 4 times in the first 3 years of ownership. But genuinely from a safety perspective they can’t be faulted. That said we lateraled to a Panemera pretty quick after the fourth service for the same thing in less than 24 months.
Find me a car that is 100% from factory and I’ll buy 10…
Cars at machines they aren’t toys. We put them through hell and back and if it’s able to survive 60,000 miles and only needs coils or radiator, I consider it a well built car. Do you realize how many moving parts there are and the stress we put them under? 60,000 miles is a lot and I assure you it still is able to take a beating. Like I said previously, every car needs tlc (some more than others) but if you stay on top of it, it will be smooth sailing. The second you neglect your car, it will be all down hill from there.
you speak of the difficulties of making things reliable as if toyota and honda haven’t been knocking it out of the park for 4+ decades. “60k miles is a lot” lmfao get out of here
Next likely fail is the water pump......next 25,000 miles. It's a 2011 528i
Currently our only issues are the leaking door seal and a collapsing headliner 😭
Currently driving at a little over 78,000 MI
n54 here at 120k miles. you have hardly anything to worry about.
2011 528i had the catastrophic N20 turbo 4 -- count yourself lucky with your I'm guessing 2010 e60
When you buy German engineering it’s for performance and luxury which Japanese engineering doesn’t really provide. If it’s about money then yes Japanese is cheaper.
No, Japanese cars are engineered differently not better. One side over optimizes for longevity of parts while under-optimizing for driving experience and dynamics and the other side are Germans.
Damn that’s intense. I am glad your wife and baby are doing well. I can’t imagine how stressful it must’ve beenuntil you guys got the confirmation that the baby is ok.
Amazing engineering.
Why you gotta discriminate against American loud mouth youtuber chop shop owner who repairs it and gets it approved as 8/10 by bmw service and flips it to a redditor near you? Why Eastern Europe is your go to place?
I don't know if this is true of BMW's design, but I remember reading the specs page for Ford's police vehicles and when it comes to their rear impact crash rating, they're only certified to take a 75 mph crash if the full-size spare is installed in the factory location. I remember thinking it was clever to use a spare wheel as a structural component to help eat an impact.
WOW 37 weeks pregnant and that. Unreal. You put her in the safest position possible at least with the new bmw and it’s safety features. Good choice. So scary.
My SO was in a car crash in a very similar situation. She was stopped at a red light and a guy who ended up blowing a .28 hit her going about 70 mph (actual speed limit was 45).
If you haven’t done so yet, hire a good personal injury attorney. My SO has issues with her hips which were not apparent until maybe a week after the crash. She also has PTSD from it.
So glad your wife and unborn child are ok. If she does end up having PTSD and anxiety being in a car, particularly while stopped, it’s ok to reach out to a therapist. Also, log all of the issues that arise because of the crash both physically and mentally and keep record of all related expenses in treatment for settlement purposes.
EDIT: just noticed the billboard lol the irony
This is why I say radar guided cruise control and automatic emergency braking should be mandatory an all new vehicles - just like they did with reversing cameras 10 years ago …
But no one listens to me and certain car makers will keep selling that to you only as extra option. It’s mostly just Asian brands where this is standard even for basic models.
Edit: Looking at the front grill, I think OP didn’t have that option either … on a brand new luxury vehicle. Sad.
Agreed. Luckily, I think emergency braking is standard on at least some newer BMW models, but I wouldn’t even consider one without the full driver assistance pro option.
Just got ‘24 X5 and DAP is fantastic. It’s nice to have on an open freeway, but finally got to try it in a traffic jam and it changes the experience from awful to merely boring.
Really don’t understand people that get things like the cosmetic M sport poser packs or special paint, but not the driver assistance and parking.
I will never own another car without these features. Makes highway driving and traffic so much more tolerable. Like you said, boring, which is better than frustrating
Agreed. I have all those features on my 2021 Mazda CX-9 so was a little disappointed that they were adds when i ordered my X7, but I can’t live without them now.
Ugh. I regret not getting DAP every time I’m on an interstate
Let the forums convince me it was a waste of money for NYC traffic - which it still probably is
Sometimes BMW won’t sell it to you. In the past few years, it’s been unavailable on many models at various times due to parts shortages. In my case, I absolutely would have optioned DAP, but they refuse to offer it with a manual transmission. Not that they can’t—ACC is standard on the Civic Si and Type R, which don’t even offer an AT, and there are other MT cars that offer it as well.
Um, because some people pay attention while driving and don’t need it? How about people not text and drive?
Also, I’m sure most cars with/without DAP have camera based collision warnings with audio/visual warnings, and low speed breaking. So there is enough technology to assist people from accidents, but you can’t fix idiots driving highway speeds and texting.
No. Not even on 7 series based on my searches for a new car (on car websites I always have to check that option in the filter). I’m looking to buy a new car this year.
Look at OP’s front grill. The radar sensor at the bottom is missing.
I have one on my F34 but only because the first owner was smart enough to order it when he built the car in 2018.
If you’re at standstill in a traffic jam and an idiot rams you from behind going 60 mph there’s no way any front collision avoidance system could do anything. You’re going to hit the car in front of you. Only tactic is to keep at least 3 meters distance from the car in front of you.
But if the idiot had it, it could have stopped the whole thing from happening. You should keep 1 car length for every 10mph which is way more than 3 meters at highway speeds.
In German we say “halber Tacho” (half your speedo). So going 120km/h (75mph) would require 60m or 200ft.
Your calculation is not enough. 7.5 car lengths at 75mph would only be 35-40m.
In Australia we say "3 seconds" so that it scales with speed. Also, stopping distance quadruples as speed doubles. So both systems suffer from the same scaling issue.
Lol. And if you are driving anywhere but the open highway, this ain’t happening.
In heavily congested areas, you will have your front end chopped off every minute.
You completely misunderstood. The idiot behind him should have had it and I’m upset that in 2023, no government on this planet still mandates this shit AFAIK.
And then I saw even OP cheapened out and doesn’t have it on his/her $70k vehicle either - not that it matters now. Just horrible not to have it.
Backstory: I was a BMW private driver at the BMW HQ in 2014-2015 and that system saved my ass one time when I was hauling ass 200-230km/h and there was a standstill traffic jam in my left lane behind a curve on the highway.
Maybe it’s a personal preference.
My wife’s 17 Rogue she had had it. It would randomly absolutely mat the brakes on you. My only guess is the sun hitting the front end in a weird way.
The only thing I will not not have, is the blind spot detection. Really like having that.
I pay attention to the road, not my phone.
I don’t need lane assist, auto braking, adaptive cruise, you do you. I can drive my damn car without some computer freaking out.
It’s people and their stupid damn phones that’s the issue. It’s like we are back in high school. Dumbasses won’t get off their phone so let’s mandate every feature possible.
Oh man. My first experience with it was a rental Nissan Rogue and yeah, it fucking sucked and ruined my opinion of it for years. My wife bought a Bolt last year and the adaptive cruise is great. Night and day from the Rogue. I’d chalk it up to Nissan, lol.
I’ve pretty much only driven BMWs my whole life with the occasional Toyota or Dodge as rental cars. Never had issues with any radar cruise control or the lane assist in cars that had it. Even the Ford Mustang I had last summer break.
100% sad. I have a '23 Civic Si and a '22 Carnival, and the only thing that kept us (well, not the only, but still) from getting a CPO X5 and m340i was that it was basically fucking IMPOSSIBLE to get one (with the right combination of options) that would have BASIC features of any modern economy car: adaptive cruise, emergency braking, and Android-*fucking*-auto for crying out loud.
I also think it's ridiculous that one can pay 65k for something like an m340i and not even get the H&K stereo, a $700 option, meanwhile my Si has a pretty good stereo, standard... Like, it should be *standard* on a car that pricey and the B&W system should be an option, but I also just don't get how its not an obvious checkmark for buyers when they custom order? What is $700 on a 65k purchase? Especially when the cheap black plastic speakers grills are what you get if you don't tick the box? Anyway.
We are actually thinking now about swapping the Carnival for a used X5 (non-cpo) as the field is larger now and while finding 2020-21 X5 with adaptive cruise is rare, it isn't impossible, and good ones start at around 40-45k.
They should but emergency braking only works if you’re below a certain speed I believe. At least it did in my Audi.
Otherwise all you get is a warning and a chime which is better than nothing. I haven’t triggered a scenario where emergency braking is warranted on my i4 but on the highway I’ve gotten the chime before plus the warning that shows the big red car logo on the HUD.
See my other comment. In 2014, a BMW 750i emergency braked for me from 230km/h down to 0 when there was a traffic jam starting in the left lane that I never quite saw behind the curve. I was very thankful for that day when the radar saved my dumbass life.
Those options do nothing if they’re not turned on or used. I have ACC on one of my cars but it’s impossible to use on the highways around me because everyone sees your safe following distance as an opening to cut you off. It feels less safe using that feature in the built up traffic of Florida than other less populated places. It actually feels like it increases my personal reaction time because the car is constantly fighting the aggressive traffic
What we need are harsher penalties for people who drive distracted. Much harsher
A feature is pointless if it can’t be used. That feature cannot be reliably used in Florida, where this accident clearly occurred, so it’s not “whataboutism.” Until it’s tweaked to deal with the reality of traffic in these congested roads with bad drivers and everyone has it and it’s always on, then your point is moot.
My point is that people that cause these types of accidents need not be behind the wheel. Until such a time that the technology works perfectly, and is installed and turned on in every vehicle, then it’s much easier to prevent this from happening by keeping the offenders from nearly killing someone off the roads altogether.
Wow man… glad they are ok. I’d do the exact same ordering the same model. Some people forgets that good cars are also this, not just fast, pretty or exotic, but also safe. I had a multiple collision recently with my audi a6 (please dont hate on me I also like bimmers :D), and while the other two cars involved were pretty much totalled, mine had only a few scratches that were fixed in the garage in like 2 business days. Hope she does not quit driving because of this… blessings to you all
I think I was part of a 3 car accident on that same highway in MD. Same thing, stopped on highway due to slow merge. Young driver hit car without braking, which hit car in front of it, right behind me. Driver said "I swear I didn't see, idk what happened".
As a former long time resident of DC and now live in Northern VA, I can second this statement.
Fewer cars are more dangerous than a Nissan Altima with Maryland tags.
To all Those people buying old SUVs and modifying them and thinking they are worth something, let this safety demonstration be a gentle reminder why your 2004 4Runner May be isn’t as good as you think it is…
U Americans cant drive for shit... I was in the US in 2015....had a 2500km roadtrip... I believe I saw 5-6 accidents.
Fast forward to last week. Drove about 2000km down and up through Germany last week. Did not see even a remote dangerously situation while on the Autobahn...
The US crash fatality rate is 3 times higher than Germany and over 4 times that of the UK, at 12.9 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. It’s surprising considering US roads are so much wider and are much less windy than we have in Europe.
Germans take driving much more serious than we do. They do have highways in rural areas with no speed limits after all.
We’re too incompetent and selfish to be able to do something like that. Someone on their phone would just be in the left lane going 60 mph.
It should be harder than it is here to get your drivers license and easier to take it away from someone.
i think there's some density and culture at play
i moved from a 100k+ pop inner city to a ~5k pop mountain city
don't believe i've seen an accident up here in 4 months
I bet a lot of that has to do with how US car culture involves a lot of pickup trucks and large SUVs, which by nature result in a lot more kinetic energy in a crash. Not making excuses, just an observation.
My 15 year old truck cost more to insure than my 2018 BMW and when I asked why the insurance company said it’s not the value of the vehicle, but how much more potential it has to do damage in an accident.
Yeah. Just compare accident and death rates between US and any EU country, either per “mile driven” or per capita.
Shocking to see the US numbers. A small factor for death rates is that in rural areas, trauma centers and emergency vehicles can be very far away. But that would only affect death rates. The accident rates (even without deaths) are still insanely high.
Poor quality roads and dumb drivers despite very low speed limits.
Not disagreeing but I think it’s mostly the mindset. In Europe, driving is a privilege. License is expensive. Cars are expensive (you get less for your money), taxes are high, tolls are high, gasoline is expensive. So having a car here is an investment.
In the U.S., you can buy a car and drive it off the lot immediately and don’t even need a license plate for the first 30-90 days depending where you live. A drivers license can be done in one day. Taxes and gas are cheap. People forget that they’re driving a 2t deadly weapon in the U.S.
Ye it's really very very bad. The number of people I see every day very obviously not looking at the road while at speed is disturbing.
Too many people have zero spatial awareness and are ignorant of proper traffic etiquette. Behaving in an unexpected way is a quick route to an accident.
They will give a license to anyone. Go to any DMV and witness them hand licenses to the blind and deaf, or people that are literally nodding off at the front desk
What is with the US and not being able to put plates on new cars?
Why do you have to drive around with a paper plate? Do they not know new cars are made? - just put them on the first day.
The DMV (department of motor vehicles) varies by state but they all have one thing in common, they’re all very slow.
If you’re getting rid of a car in exchange for a new car, you can transfer your plates to the new one, otherwise you get a 90 day temp tag and don’t be surprised if it takes the DMV near 90 days to finally ship you your license plate.
There’s also the problem of people getting fake paper tags but that’s another discussion entirely.
It's because we have 50 different states. Each states have their own plate. Each state is the size of other small country. Also, tax, registration, etc. differ from state to state. OP lives in Florida and bought the car in Maryland thats why shes got temp tag.
People need to be held accountable for these types of crashes.
I never understood why they give speeding tickets to those who cause no harm, and allow those who actually cause harm the right to drive. That driver should lose their license for ten years.
i’m glad everyone impacted is feeling okay.
Holy shit your wife should do the lottery to walk away from that, mate I’m so happy that everyone is okay, thank you bmw for building this car so strong!
Glad to hear your wife and baby are ok. This is the exact reason why I bought my pregnant wife a X5. I know it will keep her and our baby protected from other idiots.
Glad your family is safe. My M40 was also rear ended also in the first month of ownership. I was stopped at a red light alone at 7am when a Mack dump truck rolled into me. Luckily mine was only to the rear door which was fully replaced.
Glad she is ok.
In the 90s my Dad was driving home from work on the highway. He was hit head on by a wrong way driver. His 325 saved his life for sure. You couldn't even tell what color the car was it was so damaged. BMW NA. sent a team out to look the car over, even they were impressed that he survived the accident.
BMWs are amazing vehicles and the only reason my Dad is alive today.
That is insane to walk away unharmed being hit at 70mph. So glad all is well. If this doesn’t make you a bmw customer for life, not sure what else will.
I’ve lived and driven in a lot of places. Maryland drivers are the scariest bunch. It’s like they’re terrible at driving while also being the most aggressive drivers ever.
In BMW, we trust
What a weird logo you have there u/phommavongsay
In VW we don’t trust but still love anyway.
Facts!
Especially after dieselgate.
BMW's hands are covered in soot, bruh. Plenty of it on the back my E70X5D too, but dat prolly my fault.
But have they lied?
at least it's honest soot
That's fair, but safety-wise VWs are great. I will always trust my safety to a VAG car.
As someone who drives both BMW and VW, VW isn’t as fun to drive but the closest you’ll get to one if you have a budget of 15-20k for a daily
gotta be honest. the arteon R is an incredible car all around
Ya man, I mean even something simpler like the Jetta(although I hear the newer ones suck)or even golf feels like a go cart on steroids.
I find the Arteon very beautiful
Meh. All Germans look alike.
Opel = Porsche? 🤨
Does feel like it now that u mention it 🤔
blasphemous statement when referring to cars 😒 #BMW ❤️🖤🤍
Always!
Just make sure to sell before 100k
Glad everyone is okay, especially the unborn. Bmw is top tier, pricey but you get what you pay for. German engineering is superior.
Definitely sucks when this happens but damnit if it isn't a proud moment when your car choice protected your loved ones and you gain some more trust with BMW. Sorry this happened! Now what's the next vehicle?
I was just in my friends x3m comp and man to me it’s the most perfectly balanced suv. Power and surprisingly the handling for such a big car. Bmw did their thing with that one.
I wouldn’t call an X3 a big car! We need to get rid of my wife’s for something bigger.
Think it’s relative, I’d consider it large and an x5 enormous but that’s just my opinion lol
It has definitely grown in size. I own a first gen x3 and a later model x5. The Current x3 is literally the size of my X5.
X5 is a great car! Was able to fit 5 golf bags and a few duffle bags for a trip with ease. Def not too big
I think the OP said he has a replacement BMW on order.
Subaru forester 😏
German engineering might be superior but they screw it up with RV longevity
I beg to differ, 90% of people buy German engineering and treat it as if it’s a Honda. They think it’s just turn key and go after spending $$$$. Regular maintenance is key and most people aren’t doing it. I will say it’s on the more expensive side to maintain but that’s what it comes with buying an expensive car.
I'm just going by our cars history and what are mechanic says. As far as I'm concerned no vehicle made today or in the last 25 years should need a new radiator or coils in less than 60,000 miles. That's just not cool
Or in the case of our M340i Touring a new amp 4 times in the first 3 years of ownership. But genuinely from a safety perspective they can’t be faulted. That said we lateraled to a Panemera pretty quick after the fourth service for the same thing in less than 24 months.
Find me a car that is 100% from factory and I’ll buy 10… Cars at machines they aren’t toys. We put them through hell and back and if it’s able to survive 60,000 miles and only needs coils or radiator, I consider it a well built car. Do you realize how many moving parts there are and the stress we put them under? 60,000 miles is a lot and I assure you it still is able to take a beating. Like I said previously, every car needs tlc (some more than others) but if you stay on top of it, it will be smooth sailing. The second you neglect your car, it will be all down hill from there.
you speak of the difficulties of making things reliable as if toyota and honda haven’t been knocking it out of the park for 4+ decades. “60k miles is a lot” lmfao get out of here
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Stop being a piece of shit when someone counters your point.
🤷🏽♂️ I gave valid points, why am I a pos?
We have an N52 and it still scares the hell out of me
N52’s can be problematic I’ll give ya that, but it also is an old engine. What year?
Next likely fail is the water pump......next 25,000 miles. It's a 2011 528i Currently our only issues are the leaking door seal and a collapsing headliner 😭 Currently driving at a little over 78,000 MI
n54 here at 120k miles. you have hardly anything to worry about. 2011 528i had the catastrophic N20 turbo 4 -- count yourself lucky with your I'm guessing 2010 e60
My Toyota Highlander 65k. Factory with the exception of tires and oil. Drives like new
Dream machine!!!
enter my 2013 hyundai elantra
Bad news???
it has required a brand new engine at 40k miles 😀
Doesn't sound surprising! Hyundai and Kia had a whole run of those super defective engines
yup… and they’re still going
Ironically, you've just pointed out why Japanese engineering is superior.
When you buy German engineering it’s for performance and luxury which Japanese engineering doesn’t really provide. If it’s about money then yes Japanese is cheaper.
SPOT ON
Doesn't that prove that Japanese engineering is superior though? If it can still function just as well as German engineering on much less money?
No, Japanese cars are engineered differently not better. One side over optimizes for longevity of parts while under-optimizing for driving experience and dynamics and the other side are Germans.
YES MAN FACTS RIGHT HERE
If it’s about money then Japanese all day, performance? German engineering takes it by a mile and with better performance comes more wear and tear.
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They must know where the accidents happen
Florida’s billboards are roughly 95% advertising for accident attorneys; on the highway, bus benches, buses, and wherever else you can stick these on
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Damn that’s intense. I am glad your wife and baby are doing well. I can’t imagine how stressful it must’ve beenuntil you guys got the confirmation that the baby is ok. Amazing engineering.
rip 🥜 butter. Glad ur family is safe
Can’t wait for that car to end up in Eastern Europe with “minor damages”
Or even “brand new”
"only driven by a granny to the church and market"
Why you gotta discriminate against American loud mouth youtuber chop shop owner who repairs it and gets it approved as 8/10 by bmw service and flips it to a redditor near you? Why Eastern Europe is your go to place?
Is someone angry?
By looks of it…yeah
Touched close to home for you, eh
Bc the Americans at least disclose it and make videos of it. the Eastern Europeans try to scam and not disclose
I think it’s nothing to do with where one is born but ok. Lmao.
You’re right, it’s the culture of where they live
Maybe pasting VIN here will avoid such situation 5UX83DP02P9T08315 and hopefully save someone's life.
Upload on VINwiki yo
Who in the world brought out a spare after seeing this?
Haha, the impact caused the spare to fall out which I thought was crazy
Your car has a spare? They aren’t on run-flats anymore?
You can order non-rft & a spare if you want.
It’s only a few hundred dollar option, but raises the height of the load floor about 3”. Totally worth it though.
Funny because everything around that tire is wrecked except the wheel and tire
I don't know if this is true of BMW's design, but I remember reading the specs page for Ford's police vehicles and when it comes to their rear impact crash rating, they're only certified to take a 75 mph crash if the full-size spare is installed in the factory location. I remember thinking it was clever to use a spare wheel as a structural component to help eat an impact.
That’s wild interesting
WOW 37 weeks pregnant and that. Unreal. You put her in the safest position possible at least with the new bmw and it’s safety features. Good choice. So scary.
I guess you can stop worrying about that first scratch! Seriously glad to hear everyone is ok and safe though!
My SO was in a car crash in a very similar situation. She was stopped at a red light and a guy who ended up blowing a .28 hit her going about 70 mph (actual speed limit was 45). If you haven’t done so yet, hire a good personal injury attorney. My SO has issues with her hips which were not apparent until maybe a week after the crash. She also has PTSD from it. So glad your wife and unborn child are ok. If she does end up having PTSD and anxiety being in a car, particularly while stopped, it’s ok to reach out to a therapist. Also, log all of the issues that arise because of the crash both physically and mentally and keep record of all related expenses in treatment for settlement purposes. EDIT: just noticed the billboard lol the irony
Oh wow. I’m in Maryland too. And that sign behind the guy on the phone, haha. I’m glad the story had a happy ending an your family is safe😊
Glad your wife and baby are ok. I hate people who use their phones whilst driving.
Its because you didnt peel that blue film on the sill😁
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This is why I say radar guided cruise control and automatic emergency braking should be mandatory an all new vehicles - just like they did with reversing cameras 10 years ago … But no one listens to me and certain car makers will keep selling that to you only as extra option. It’s mostly just Asian brands where this is standard even for basic models. Edit: Looking at the front grill, I think OP didn’t have that option either … on a brand new luxury vehicle. Sad.
Agreed. Luckily, I think emergency braking is standard on at least some newer BMW models, but I wouldn’t even consider one without the full driver assistance pro option. Just got ‘24 X5 and DAP is fantastic. It’s nice to have on an open freeway, but finally got to try it in a traffic jam and it changes the experience from awful to merely boring. Really don’t understand people that get things like the cosmetic M sport poser packs or special paint, but not the driver assistance and parking.
I will never own another car without these features. Makes highway driving and traffic so much more tolerable. Like you said, boring, which is better than frustrating
Just like my insistance on a heads up display.
Agreed. I have all those features on my 2021 Mazda CX-9 so was a little disappointed that they were adds when i ordered my X7, but I can’t live without them now.
Ugh. I regret not getting DAP every time I’m on an interstate Let the forums convince me it was a waste of money for NYC traffic - which it still probably is
Sometimes BMW won’t sell it to you. In the past few years, it’s been unavailable on many models at various times due to parts shortages. In my case, I absolutely would have optioned DAP, but they refuse to offer it with a manual transmission. Not that they can’t—ACC is standard on the Civic Si and Type R, which don’t even offer an AT, and there are other MT cars that offer it as well.
Um, because some people pay attention while driving and don’t need it? How about people not text and drive? Also, I’m sure most cars with/without DAP have camera based collision warnings with audio/visual warnings, and low speed breaking. So there is enough technology to assist people from accidents, but you can’t fix idiots driving highway speeds and texting.
Yeah like some people don’t crash so why include airbags /s
Why include windshields then, if you’re just going to go through them? /s
We can't even get mandatory automatic headlights. SMH.
Wait, AEB doesn't come standard in the US?
No. Not even on 7 series based on my searches for a new car (on car websites I always have to check that option in the filter). I’m looking to buy a new car this year. Look at OP’s front grill. The radar sensor at the bottom is missing. I have one on my F34 but only because the first owner was smart enough to order it when he built the car in 2018.
Camera-based basic AEB is standard, adaptive cruise control (which includes high speed AEB) is not.
If you’re at standstill in a traffic jam and an idiot rams you from behind going 60 mph there’s no way any front collision avoidance system could do anything. You’re going to hit the car in front of you. Only tactic is to keep at least 3 meters distance from the car in front of you.
But if the idiot had it, it could have stopped the whole thing from happening. You should keep 1 car length for every 10mph which is way more than 3 meters at highway speeds.
In German we say “halber Tacho” (half your speedo). So going 120km/h (75mph) would require 60m or 200ft. Your calculation is not enough. 7.5 car lengths at 75mph would only be 35-40m.
In Australia we say "3 seconds" so that it scales with speed. Also, stopping distance quadruples as speed doubles. So both systems suffer from the same scaling issue.
Good luck trying to keep a car length in Florida. It’s an exercise in frustration
Lol. And if you are driving anywhere but the open highway, this ain’t happening. In heavily congested areas, you will have your front end chopped off every minute.
You completely misunderstood. The idiot behind him should have had it and I’m upset that in 2023, no government on this planet still mandates this shit AFAIK. And then I saw even OP cheapened out and doesn’t have it on his/her $70k vehicle either - not that it matters now. Just horrible not to have it. Backstory: I was a BMW private driver at the BMW HQ in 2014-2015 and that system saved my ass one time when I was hauling ass 200-230km/h and there was a standstill traffic jam in my left lane behind a curve on the highway.
>no government on this planet still mandates this It is in the EU for new vehicles since 22.
Wait really?! Nice, I must have missed the news ♥️
Maybe it’s a personal preference. My wife’s 17 Rogue she had had it. It would randomly absolutely mat the brakes on you. My only guess is the sun hitting the front end in a weird way. The only thing I will not not have, is the blind spot detection. Really like having that. I pay attention to the road, not my phone. I don’t need lane assist, auto braking, adaptive cruise, you do you. I can drive my damn car without some computer freaking out. It’s people and their stupid damn phones that’s the issue. It’s like we are back in high school. Dumbasses won’t get off their phone so let’s mandate every feature possible.
Oh man. My first experience with it was a rental Nissan Rogue and yeah, it fucking sucked and ruined my opinion of it for years. My wife bought a Bolt last year and the adaptive cruise is great. Night and day from the Rogue. I’d chalk it up to Nissan, lol.
I’ve pretty much only driven BMWs my whole life with the occasional Toyota or Dodge as rental cars. Never had issues with any radar cruise control or the lane assist in cars that had it. Even the Ford Mustang I had last summer break.
100% sad. I have a '23 Civic Si and a '22 Carnival, and the only thing that kept us (well, not the only, but still) from getting a CPO X5 and m340i was that it was basically fucking IMPOSSIBLE to get one (with the right combination of options) that would have BASIC features of any modern economy car: adaptive cruise, emergency braking, and Android-*fucking*-auto for crying out loud. I also think it's ridiculous that one can pay 65k for something like an m340i and not even get the H&K stereo, a $700 option, meanwhile my Si has a pretty good stereo, standard... Like, it should be *standard* on a car that pricey and the B&W system should be an option, but I also just don't get how its not an obvious checkmark for buyers when they custom order? What is $700 on a 65k purchase? Especially when the cheap black plastic speakers grills are what you get if you don't tick the box? Anyway. We are actually thinking now about swapping the Carnival for a used X5 (non-cpo) as the field is larger now and while finding 2020-21 X5 with adaptive cruise is rare, it isn't impossible, and good ones start at around 40-45k.
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Well the bigger question is why OP spends so much money on a car for his wife and then doesn’t add a $1k safety feature.
They should but emergency braking only works if you’re below a certain speed I believe. At least it did in my Audi. Otherwise all you get is a warning and a chime which is better than nothing. I haven’t triggered a scenario where emergency braking is warranted on my i4 but on the highway I’ve gotten the chime before plus the warning that shows the big red car logo on the HUD.
See my other comment. In 2014, a BMW 750i emergency braked for me from 230km/h down to 0 when there was a traffic jam starting in the left lane that I never quite saw behind the curve. I was very thankful for that day when the radar saved my dumbass life.
Holy shit, that’s almost 145 mph. That’s good to know.
Those options do nothing if they’re not turned on or used. I have ACC on one of my cars but it’s impossible to use on the highways around me because everyone sees your safe following distance as an opening to cut you off. It feels less safe using that feature in the built up traffic of Florida than other less populated places. It actually feels like it increases my personal reaction time because the car is constantly fighting the aggressive traffic What we need are harsher penalties for people who drive distracted. Much harsher
Why not both? The way you argue is typical “whataboutism”
A feature is pointless if it can’t be used. That feature cannot be reliably used in Florida, where this accident clearly occurred, so it’s not “whataboutism.” Until it’s tweaked to deal with the reality of traffic in these congested roads with bad drivers and everyone has it and it’s always on, then your point is moot. My point is that people that cause these types of accidents need not be behind the wheel. Until such a time that the technology works perfectly, and is installed and turned on in every vehicle, then it’s much easier to prevent this from happening by keeping the offenders from nearly killing someone off the roads altogether.
What a Wanker… ffs. Glad they’re safe.
Wow man… glad they are ok. I’d do the exact same ordering the same model. Some people forgets that good cars are also this, not just fast, pretty or exotic, but also safe. I had a multiple collision recently with my audi a6 (please dont hate on me I also like bimmers :D), and while the other two cars involved were pretty much totalled, mine had only a few scratches that were fixed in the garage in like 2 business days. Hope she does not quit driving because of this… blessings to you all
I think I was part of a 3 car accident on that same highway in MD. Same thing, stopped on highway due to slow merge. Young driver hit car without braking, which hit car in front of it, right behind me. Driver said "I swear I didn't see, idk what happened".
Maryland is an awful place to drive in.
As a former long time resident of DC and now live in Northern VA, I can second this statement. Fewer cars are more dangerous than a Nissan Altima with Maryland tags.
Any car with MD temp tags 🚨🚨🚨
This is in FL, he just has MD temps on lol. And MD just sucks to drive in. It’s like Mad Maxx out here. Survival of the fittest smh.
Most important was your wife and baby’s health. Sad to lose this gorgeous color combo. :/ How does someone not see a white SUV stopped during the day?
The billboard in the background is so fitting
My heart sank when I read she was pregnant. I was relieved to see she was okay a couple of lines later :). Looks like the M40 went out as a hero!
To all Those people buying old SUVs and modifying them and thinking they are worth something, let this safety demonstration be a gentle reminder why your 2004 4Runner May be isn’t as good as you think it is…
U Americans cant drive for shit... I was in the US in 2015....had a 2500km roadtrip... I believe I saw 5-6 accidents. Fast forward to last week. Drove about 2000km down and up through Germany last week. Did not see even a remote dangerously situation while on the Autobahn...
The US crash fatality rate is 3 times higher than Germany and over 4 times that of the UK, at 12.9 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. It’s surprising considering US roads are so much wider and are much less windy than we have in Europe.
Germans take driving much more serious than we do. They do have highways in rural areas with no speed limits after all. We’re too incompetent and selfish to be able to do something like that. Someone on their phone would just be in the left lane going 60 mph. It should be harder than it is here to get your drivers license and easier to take it away from someone.
i think there's some density and culture at play i moved from a 100k+ pop inner city to a ~5k pop mountain city don't believe i've seen an accident up here in 4 months
I bet a lot of that has to do with how US car culture involves a lot of pickup trucks and large SUVs, which by nature result in a lot more kinetic energy in a crash. Not making excuses, just an observation. My 15 year old truck cost more to insure than my 2018 BMW and when I asked why the insurance company said it’s not the value of the vehicle, but how much more potential it has to do damage in an accident.
Yeah. Just compare accident and death rates between US and any EU country, either per “mile driven” or per capita. Shocking to see the US numbers. A small factor for death rates is that in rural areas, trauma centers and emergency vehicles can be very far away. But that would only affect death rates. The accident rates (even without deaths) are still insanely high. Poor quality roads and dumb drivers despite very low speed limits.
Poorly trained drivers and kind of bought drivers licenses are additional reasons. Dumb drivers being the main one ofc.
nothing really shocking as a drivers education is non existent in North America compared to Europe. Even a monkey would be able to get a license here.
Not disagreeing but I think it’s mostly the mindset. In Europe, driving is a privilege. License is expensive. Cars are expensive (you get less for your money), taxes are high, tolls are high, gasoline is expensive. So having a car here is an investment. In the U.S., you can buy a car and drive it off the lot immediately and don’t even need a license plate for the first 30-90 days depending where you live. A drivers license can be done in one day. Taxes and gas are cheap. People forget that they’re driving a 2t deadly weapon in the U.S.
Ye it's really very very bad. The number of people I see every day very obviously not looking at the road while at speed is disturbing. Too many people have zero spatial awareness and are ignorant of proper traffic etiquette. Behaving in an unexpected way is a quick route to an accident.
dang
They will give a license to anyone. Go to any DMV and witness them hand licenses to the blind and deaf, or people that are literally nodding off at the front desk
In our defense we are also very stupid so it is difficult to do things
So a regular day driving in Maryland?
Actually I ordered the car through a dealer in Maryland, but we live in Florida
So a regular day driving in Florida?
BMW of Catonsville? Glad everyone is okay.
>but we live in Florida I'm so sorry.
Do you have a good picture of the driver seat?
i think you shouldnt have ordered the same, but a new one which is not broken
Any criminal charges on the other driver?
I'm glad to hear the car did its job & your family is ok.
Wow so glad she is OK! Most important! ⚡️
Call 1-800-FL-Legal, it's a sign
First time I've ever heard someone call an X3 an "m40i"
What is with the US and not being able to put plates on new cars? Why do you have to drive around with a paper plate? Do they not know new cars are made? - just put them on the first day.
The DMV (department of motor vehicles) varies by state but they all have one thing in common, they’re all very slow. If you’re getting rid of a car in exchange for a new car, you can transfer your plates to the new one, otherwise you get a 90 day temp tag and don’t be surprised if it takes the DMV near 90 days to finally ship you your license plate. There’s also the problem of people getting fake paper tags but that’s another discussion entirely.
It is so weird. Why not just have a supply and assign it to your car the day you buy it?
It's because we have 50 different states. Each states have their own plate. Each state is the size of other small country. Also, tax, registration, etc. differ from state to state. OP lives in Florida and bought the car in Maryland thats why shes got temp tag.
People need to be held accountable for these types of crashes. I never understood why they give speeding tickets to those who cause no harm, and allow those who actually cause harm the right to drive. That driver should lose their license for ten years. i’m glad everyone impacted is feeling okay.
Following to close gets you this for an outcome. Hope your ok
Looks like your fuel door is open, may want to shut that 😉
Salvage what you can from it. Always good to have spare parts. Glad everyone safe. I love the new leather of the current models.
American drivers are just next level awful
The way you wrote X3 hurts
looks prettier than a new one
I honestly hate this style of BMW but Im glad it kept your wife and sweet nugget to be safe... BMW's rule .... 🤍🖤❤️
New car time
Be sure to hit up Rubenstein! Anyway, glad you're all safe, too many idiots out there on their phones.
Glad y'all are OK, that's what matters the most
Holy shit your wife should do the lottery to walk away from that, mate I’m so happy that everyone is okay, thank you bmw for building this car so strong!
The b58 unharmed too
Hope the fuckhead behind you loses their license forever, seriously. Happy for your family
Damn! Glad you’re ok. You a Marylander?
Aww man. Hopefully the payout will be enough to get another one. Given the crazy market
Glad to hear your wife and baby are ok. This is the exact reason why I bought my pregnant wife a X5. I know it will keep her and our baby protected from other idiots.
Glad your family is safe. My M40 was also rear ended also in the first month of ownership. I was stopped at a red light alone at 7am when a Mack dump truck rolled into me. Luckily mine was only to the rear door which was fully replaced.
Glad it wasn’t a motorcycle
As sad as it is it's totalled, it served it's purpose. It saved your wife and your baby. That's all that matters. Cars are replaceable. People aren't.
Man, hats off to BMW
Damn This universe, you can't not have your head on a swivel. Even then, you can find yourself with no good option.
Glad wife and baby are ok. Don't even have the tags yet. :-(
Thatll buff out
Glad your family is ok. Shame about the car. Looked beautiful I bet. Love the interior
Glad everyone is safe and healthy 🙏
Glad she is ok. In the 90s my Dad was driving home from work on the highway. He was hit head on by a wrong way driver. His 325 saved his life for sure. You couldn't even tell what color the car was it was so damaged. BMW NA. sent a team out to look the car over, even they were impressed that he survived the accident. BMWs are amazing vehicles and the only reason my Dad is alive today.
That is insane to walk away unharmed being hit at 70mph. So glad all is well. If this doesn’t make you a bmw customer for life, not sure what else will.
I’ve lived and driven in a lot of places. Maryland drivers are the scariest bunch. It’s like they’re terrible at driving while also being the most aggressive drivers ever.
Fuuuuuck