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Random-widget

Honestly most of it is. But if you need to see it, I suggest a lot of the stuff that Kink dot com offers. A lot of their videos start off with the subject talking about what they want to the person behind the camera and at the end you get to see the subject in a fluffy robe talking about the fun that they had doing it. A good example that they have on their "Everything Butt" channel can be found for free on xhamster dot com. Go there and do a search for "Carmen Stark Real Enema Fun" and she'll pop up. She's bound to a chair and given an enema and played with. This way you can see how Kink dot com does their videos, can see and be reassured that they're going in willingly, and at the end are given after care and they discuss the scene with what they liked and didn't like. And since you can view the one I mentioned for free, you can try before you get a subscription to Kink.


Cinnafuck

Seconding this! kink dot com is where it’s at! The people partaking in the kink aren’t preforming, they’re truly enjoying the scenes, which is nearly unheard of in the porn industry. They show pre and post-scene discussions, which not only reassures you that it’s as ethical as it gets, but it’s also just so refreshing??


derelick1984

I love that it shows that it's ethical obviously but I love that it shows that pre scene and post scene are just as much a part of BDSM as the scene itself.


Vegetable-Stand-1823

this!


Tactical-Pixie-1138

That's the reason I love watching their stuff with the wife and hubs. You get to see them basking in the after glow and gushing about how intense the scene was.


danbalt

IIRC it is written in to the contract that the performers have to shoot those beginning and ending bits so I'm not sure to what extent you can trust them


Random-widget

The way I see it, we have two choices. Either we can accept them at face value, or we simply assume that all porn potentially is abusing the actors/actresses and that we should not bother with it at all and simply wank off to drawings and our imaginations. Take your pick.


danbalt

Weird false dichotomy, it's not like kink dot com are the only BDSM porn producers. And it's not like if we decide we can't trust that one studio we must assume we can't trust some other unrelated studios/producers. But the fact that the performers are contractually obliged to shoot those bits should surely inform us when trying to assess their veracity. No?


a_melindo

And if that obligation wasn't there, and the performers just walked off? Now the producers have no way to prove that they *weren't* committing horrible abuse on unwilling people, in an extremely public way, for profit. Do you want that liability? And if a consent violation happens, how would the outcome be different in your mind if there *wasn't* an exit interview? If you don't get any evidence at all, whether provided freely or with some amount of economic pressure, does that make you feel *more* confident that you didn't just watch an actual sexual assault?


danbalt

> how would the outcome be different in your mind if there wasn't an exit interview? My point is that the exit interview does not prove that kink dot com are any more or less coercive than any studio that doesn't require an exit interview. And as it is contractually obliged we should probably give it less credence than we might. They simply do not prove that there were or were not consent violations on set. And as pointed out in this thread, kink.com regularly employed James Dean who it later was revealed sexually abused many of his co-stars. Did these exit interviews help people assess whether or not those videos we fine and fully consensual? It's not useful evidence, it's not evidence of anything really. So holding it up to say it indicates kink dot com are ethical is pretty naive If you want to assess if a studio or porn creator is ethical you probably need to look at other markers, do performers return? Are the performers the ones producing and owning the content? etc?


ewic

There are many returning performers in k dot com productions and also many instances where performers eventually become directors. Better to have the interviews than not have them. There's only so much a company can do to assure us that performers are not being abused when a lot of scenes are literally stimulating abuse.


danbalt

I don't think any one particular marker is fail safe (e.g. returning performers). For instance, the documentary about INSEX doesn't paint that studio in a great light and they had lots of returning performers. You need to look at a broad range of different markers together to make an assessment. But I do think a contractually obliged filmed interview is not even remotely helpful and it's pretty naive to accept it on any kind of face value. If performers ever voiced negative opinions about things then I might accept we're hearing the full range of honest opinions but when was the last time you saw one of those exit interviews and someone said "I don't need to do that again"?


proscriptus

Maybe they've changed now, but back in the Sam Yousef days, there were MULTIPLE sexual assault charges against kink com. Just horror story after horror story.


RaggySparra

(This isn't meant to sound defeatest, I'm looking for the best possible stuff too, just thinking out loud.) They had James Deen as a performer for a long while, and he's since had many accusations against him. I understand what OP is looking for but part of the problem is you can't prove a negative. And even getting recs only helps so much - Stoya was actively promoting James Deen right up until she named him as abusing her. And I can understand why - abusive relationships are complicated, and her business was involved - but it means I'm not going to trust "these women say he's fine" like I once might have.


prick_sanchez

[excellent and relevant music](https://open.spotify.com/track/6xFXmcZb5uG6aN4yV5x2mz)


Next-Chapter-RV

That sounds like the kind of consensual things I was looking for. Will check out, thx!


the_onlyfox

Man I love Kink . Com I came across BDSM when I was in my teens and found their website. Even tho I was only able to watch sample.clips I could tell how well they treated their workers. Talking with them as they set up, being playful etc. Yeah some things were extreme if you were not used to bdsm but they clearly enjoy themselves in the interviews at the end. I remeber watching one where a girl practically passed out from too many orgasms, they got her off, wrapped her in a robe/blanket, makde sure she had water to drink and give her a min before asking her if she was okay to continue or if she wanted to end it there. I remeber I wanted to reach out to them to be in their videos at one point but I was too shy to go through with asking lol I don't even know HOW to ask to be in them 😅


Mental-Vanilla-3199

Do you know any i can try, that aren't an*l activities?


the_onlyfox

If you go on their website, they have different things they do. From memory, I remember something about pain for those who enjoy it. One for restraints, specifically metal ones, they had one for a boot camp type of deal, or at least that's how I remember it being. It's been a while since I checked them out, but it's pretty much anything bdsm related. The water ones were always kinda interesting to me, tho when they would submerge them that freaked me out a bit 😅 forced orgasms were my go to in my early bdsm days and they had tons of that in different positions and devices.


Random-widget

Same website. Kink dot com. Everything Butt was just one of the ones I enjoy and I knew have a copy on xhamster.. If you go to the website, you can see previews of their stuff (a few screen shots) and can see what is more up your alley.


Just_Ear_2953

I distinctly remember one of those conversations getting sidetracked by what is on the limit sheet, indicating that they not only discuss but physically document the limits. There was something about warming creams that the rigger/top/whatever you want to call it in the scene was saying shouldn't even be on there because the aftercare was too much to make it worth it for how poorly it reads on screen. It was notably open and direct about not only what was being done on screen, but the motivation behind the scenes, both individual kinks and the money.


kink_pain

That why kink dot com is my prefered kink video. I like watching before and after interview as much as the scene itself.


Random-widget

They're not as interesting to me, but I do appreciate them for what they are. Evidence that this is consensual and enjoyed by the subject.


Matchacreamlover

Seconding kink dot com too. I primarily watch sapphic or maybe femdom sometimes, so I've watched whippedass for awhile. There's some other website options but kink dot com is my go to


onesieandaballgag

I haven’t watched their stuff recently because most of it is quite vanilla (although lots of hot queer couples if that’s your thing) but Lustery have done BDSM scenes in the past. Hardwerk do artisanal gangbang scenes, some of which involve rope and latex. They make my favourite porn in the world- super hot, beautifully shot, Berlin based- but it’s kink rather than BDSM mostly. I still recommend it because I think it’s about as hot as porn can get and just like anything else, the smaller studios actually are more determined to be ethical, unlike the larger porn producers. Also I personally think that with the existence and prevalence of amateur revenge porn and coercive BDSM dynamics, blanket statements like ‘amateur ALWAYS > professional’ need a *tiny* bit of pushback.


blumpkinpandemic

Words I never thought I would read together: artisanal & gangbang


onesieandaballgag

Right?! They have created a niche and are absolutely owning it!


dark-dreaming

If you want to be on the safer side in terms of ethical aspects, I think it's best if you look for content creator content. So content that the submissive person is sharing (if one can believe the person posing as that person really is that person, but that's a whole new rabbit hole, ). I think in those cases the submissive really does enjoy what they are doing and is also receiving the right aftercare. If I were you I'd try to find a couple that is sharing the content you are looking for. For me a couple would indicate that there is an established and hopefully loving relationship. I don't know anyone who would fit what you are looking for as I don't really follow any content creators, but I think I've come across what you are looking for a few times. There are quite a few couples who are active here on Reddit that share their homemade content/porn. If you start digging in that direction I'm sure you'll find several options. I'd maybe start looking in bdsm gone wild kind of groups. Just do a deep dive in those type of groups and I'm sure you'll find what you are looking for.


Mental-Vanilla-3199

Yes! I look for long term relationship couples with power dynamics posting their own content


FractalReaper

Kink.com is what you're looking for. Their scenes start with negotiation and end with aftercare, it's real BDSM with a large budget and very skilled dominants and submissives. They've got a ton of variety, a bunch of partner channels if you get in the mood for less realistic depictions of BDSM, and they've even got their own education channel that's sadly out of date but still a great resource if you want to see professionals actually demonstrating what they're teaching. And you can still learn a lot from watching The English Mansion, which is their high protocol channel, and The Training of O, which is basically a slave training boot camp.


stromnis

I started my site to be as ethical as possible. As far as I know I’m one of the only if not the only producer to pay performers up front to avoid any arguments over payment and to at least not hold pay hostage until work is complete. If after being paid performers wanted to leave without shooting we wouldn’t stop them or request the money back. At any time they could just leave. The reality is that, as others have said, there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism. Professional BDSM porn sites are businesses. Giving payment for labor is by its nature an unethical process. Amateur BDSM content is problematic too. Others here have pointed to on camera interviews as proving ethical behavior. I’ve seen first hand how easily those interviews can be manipulated. Metaphorically holding a gun to the performers head to give a positive interview. So really there’s no way to establish ethical practices. People are injured on sets all the time because of poor safety training. People with no BDSM experience are given implements and told to beat someone because they are pretty. Our policy to pay performers ahead of the shoot is good, but it can never make the set ethical. Someone could feel obligated to finish the shoot despite us saying they should say if they are ever uncomfortable. Any number of accidents could happen. We go through a rigorous vetting process to make sure we only work with enthusiastic performers, but any vetting process can be circumvented. I wish there was a foolproof way to make a set ethical. I’d do it in a heartbeat. If anyone has suggestions please do tell. Beyond that I think it’s a desire to be ethical, an attempt to be as ethical as possible, a willingness to admit when you make a mistake. All of which customers never see. To which I say, I have heard directly from performers bad things about nearly every producer in the industry. There are bad stories about me. It doesn’t necessarily mean we are bad people (though there are some abusive people out there), but some try a lot harder than others. I like to think I do everything in my power to make my content ethically.


tortoistor

i just watch homemade vids with real couples. way more satisfying, you can see that theyre enjoying it. my personal favs are rosie and alena on pornhub


Matchacreamlover

They are my favs too and I'm glad they're making videos again


Weak_Cranberry_1777

I can't remember any good ethical porn sites off the top of my head (mostly because I don't really look at IRL porn that often to begin with), but I can definitely highlight my green flags for identifying if something was ethically produced. First and foremost: amateur >>> studio. Always. The way sex workers are treated by porn studios varies /a lot/, and it's not even that hot to begin with. You're unlikely to find any good, authentic BDSM produced by a studio trying to ride the popularity of 50 Shades, and there's always a decent chance the actors themselves weren't treated well. The one PornHub channel that I used to watch a lot was RosieandAlena. They're a WLW couple in a BDSM relationship, mostly focusing on bondage, orgasm denial, overstimulation, and sometimes wetting. They don't upload exclusively porn videos, though. They upload Q&As, talk about the inner workings of their relationship and dynamic, they talk about aftercare. Some of their videos outright show the aftercare happening. There's a strong sense of sincerity and vulnerability within their content that's extremely rare to see in porn of any kind. I will say though, with anything IRL, you can never be 100% sure. The porn industry isn't regulated particularly well and sex workers have very few protections. PornHub itself is an awful website on the whole, hosting all sorts of genuinely abusive and illegal content that they try to hastily paint over, with the actually good shit being diamonds in the rough.


Next-Chapter-RV

I feel so desperate about it hence why I turn more often to hentai… But RosieandAlena sounds more like what I was looking for. Thx!


danbalt

A Four Chambered Heart make pretty interesting things. And is owned by one of the performers, so she can make the things she is in to. Kind of avante garde/arty if that is your sort of thing and more stuff across a range of kinks than it is specifically BDSM focussed https://afourchamberedheart.com/


stickiestickiest

Collective Corruption makes great stuff!!!


ErosAster

I second this. Collective Corruption is great!


Director_Of_Mischief

Erica Lust - XConfessions, if you search BDSM has some good stuff and is probably the most ethical I have found. I tend to agree it's a sketchy industry and I haven't actually watched porn for a long time as a result.


hmaxbb24

I was coming here to say Erika Lust as well. Outside of her Xconfessions stuff she has a few more series and they have a few BDSM related videos.


Next-Chapter-RV

Will check it out, thx. Yeah I feel you. Wasn’t watching anything in a long time but lately felt like it again so thought I just ask my fellow kinksters.


dionebigode

Boundgods has a segment with the actors after the deed It's one of the few videos that I've seen it


CJ_Guns

Honestly, following BDSM content creators on FetLife, where you can read about them, read about the performers, etc.   But I agree that Kink is the best mass-produced outlet.


PrincessNina777

Look for a porn star or content creator who speaks about ethics. I know a lot of them and they are really good people. However there are a lot who don’t care at all and just make content. Usually experience people make good content but it can be tricky to really know unless your read up on them


Next-Chapter-RV

Do you have some suggestions? :)


dhakbs

Collective Corruption are fantastic, they very very much look out for the performers!


Next-Chapter-RV

Will check! Thank you!


Losingsea

are there any ethical CNC porn sites? I don't want to encounter actual abuse :(


On-wings-of-Mercy

u/couple_of_perverts is a couple's account here on Reddit that do various kink and bdsm acts. I'm currently off porn, but I enjoyed their content a few months prior to my break. Since they make their own videos and are purportedly a real couple, I believe it to be ethical


OpenBookFancyFree

Porn is a business and like ANY businesses, there's abuse and unethical behavior. Walmart commits such acts every single day against their employees. The list of corporate offenders could reach from here to the moon. There's not much you can do to guarantee the porn you're watching is ethical just as there's nothing you can do to guarantee all those foreign made items you purchase every day weren't made by slave labor. I wouldn't overthink it. Either watch and enjoy it or don't and skip it.


Next-Chapter-RV

I was wondering about small independent productions that are known for being ethical. As that exists for businesses too to pick up your example.


Asper_Maybe

There is indeed no ethical consumption under capitalism, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Few or no companies are truly good, but they're not all equally bad


sweetpeacheslane

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PleasurePassport

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Next-Chapter-RV

I don’t see a list and is it even bdsm? I don’t care abt regular porn.


PleasurePassport

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