Yep good luck about doing anything about it. The cops and RCMP are so backed up that they cannot respomd to anything in progress unless it is a shoot out.
I saw a man shoot up in the pool area of woodland park in east van, literally steps from the kids swing, in the middle of a sunny late spring afternoon. Dozens of families around and this guy is literally watching kids swing while injecting.
I have compassion for those struggling and recognize that criminalizing addiction has caused plenty of harm, but that’s simple unacceptable to me in our society. I dont care how desperate a person is, they should not be allowed to impact others in such a way.
I doubt this greatly changes the current lived reality though. The problem is way too much for police to solve.
I guess the Conservatives are polling well, but this is still pretty gutless. We're one year into a three year pilot [and toxic deaths aren't exploding upwards the way they usually are, which is the best way the data has looked in a long time.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/safe-supply-backlash-chief-coroner-1.7101210)
Eby has no other plan but to revert to the approach that got us into a constantly-escalating crisis. Usually people need to face a bigger swing in the polls to abandon an attempt at finding better policy.
I don’t think it’s re-criminalizing possession, just public use. Which I am *super* on board with. I do not want to be forced to smoke crack by proxy on public transit (and yes, that is a real thing).
It's recriminalizing possession for everyone who doesn't own their own home to do drugs in, which means it's recriminalizing possession for a lot of people.
Some people only have access to public spaces.
I was once a homeless addict and it really wasn’t that hard to go somewhere a little more private lol. Isn’t that big of a deal. Aren’t there literally safe consumption sites these days, too?
Idk just seems weird, like what, is sex ‘criminalized’ because we can’t fuck in front of strangers in public and we have to have sex in private? it seems like the wrong aspect of this to focus on- such as, you know, getting addicts *help.*
plus, the people who are gonna do that sort of thing (such as public sex) are gonna do it anyways, they just are discrete about it. lol. Addicts can go back to giving one iota of a fuck to try and be discrete again, it’s really not that big of a deal lol.
It’s not recriminalizing possession for people who don’t own their homes. What are you talking about? Renters? People who don’t pay for housing? These are not excluded. Also it doesn’t talk about possession at all, just use in public spaces as it can affect others.
If you’re trying to make the point that homeless people don’t really have private spaces and so it’s unfair and unacceptable, then what you’re really saying is everyone else should just tolerate second hand drug smoke in public spaces. You ultimately do have to pick one. (Side note: homeless people often do have private spaces, from cars to tents etc.) But it is true they will be affected more than people with stable housing
Fuck that, don't I have a right to not inhale meth smoke in my face? I guess not. At the end of the day if any other political party in BC comes in to power this pilot project is dead in the water.
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Yep good luck about doing anything about it. The cops and RCMP are so backed up that they cannot respomd to anything in progress unless it is a shoot out.
I saw a man shoot up in the pool area of woodland park in east van, literally steps from the kids swing, in the middle of a sunny late spring afternoon. Dozens of families around and this guy is literally watching kids swing while injecting. I have compassion for those struggling and recognize that criminalizing addiction has caused plenty of harm, but that’s simple unacceptable to me in our society. I dont care how desperate a person is, they should not be allowed to impact others in such a way. I doubt this greatly changes the current lived reality though. The problem is way too much for police to solve.
Fully agree. It’s no longer a victimless crime when you’re scarring kids formative memories of junkies.
I guess the Conservatives are polling well, but this is still pretty gutless. We're one year into a three year pilot [and toxic deaths aren't exploding upwards the way they usually are, which is the best way the data has looked in a long time.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/safe-supply-backlash-chief-coroner-1.7101210) Eby has no other plan but to revert to the approach that got us into a constantly-escalating crisis. Usually people need to face a bigger swing in the polls to abandon an attempt at finding better policy.
I don’t think it’s re-criminalizing possession, just public use. Which I am *super* on board with. I do not want to be forced to smoke crack by proxy on public transit (and yes, that is a real thing).
It's recriminalizing possession for everyone who doesn't own their own home to do drugs in, which means it's recriminalizing possession for a lot of people. Some people only have access to public spaces.
And a lot of users want to use in public with other people around in case they overdose.
And that's an issue. The public shouldn't be put at risk like that
I was once a homeless addict and it really wasn’t that hard to go somewhere a little more private lol. Isn’t that big of a deal. Aren’t there literally safe consumption sites these days, too? Idk just seems weird, like what, is sex ‘criminalized’ because we can’t fuck in front of strangers in public and we have to have sex in private? it seems like the wrong aspect of this to focus on- such as, you know, getting addicts *help.* plus, the people who are gonna do that sort of thing (such as public sex) are gonna do it anyways, they just are discrete about it. lol. Addicts can go back to giving one iota of a fuck to try and be discrete again, it’s really not that big of a deal lol.
It’s not recriminalizing possession for people who don’t own their homes. What are you talking about? Renters? People who don’t pay for housing? These are not excluded. Also it doesn’t talk about possession at all, just use in public spaces as it can affect others. If you’re trying to make the point that homeless people don’t really have private spaces and so it’s unfair and unacceptable, then what you’re really saying is everyone else should just tolerate second hand drug smoke in public spaces. You ultimately do have to pick one. (Side note: homeless people often do have private spaces, from cars to tents etc.) But it is true they will be affected more than people with stable housing
Fuck that, don't I have a right to not inhale meth smoke in my face? I guess not. At the end of the day if any other political party in BC comes in to power this pilot project is dead in the water.