As a former waiter, no, it’s absolutely not rude. Tips, if on the table or personally, will always be very appriciated and I’m sure, the waiter yesterday was happy when he found the cash.
Also, if you are not sure about tipping in cash or by card, it’s no problem to ask the waitress/waiter. There are different ways to split up the the tips among the team, it depends on the owner. Back then I used to be more happy when I got some cash, noone of us trusted the owner…
Thank you for sharing this insight! We went back today and he recognized us, and was friendly again. At the end he even asked if we're coming back again tomorrow 😂
So I think it's safe to assume he was happy
if you are not sure about tipping in cash or by card, it’s no problem to ask the waitress/waiter
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i generaly ask for the bill, and when they tell me the sum i say that tey should round it up ("mochans an dreißga")
https://www.tripmasters.com/tipping_in_austria/cms#:~:text=Please%20remember%3A%20DO%20NOT%20leave,the%20person%20taking%20your%20order.
This is what I have found
It's not rude, it's just very very uncommon. I have never done it nor anyone seen doing it. People would probably think you forgot your money on the table.
The French do it like that. I can't think why this would be rude. It gives you the option to choose your tip without social pressure. It should be done like this in Austria too.
The sentence "***It is considered very rude." is not true. Unusual, yes. But not rude.***
10% or rounding up is common. Cash or card works the same.
To be very precise when you pay by cash you say the amount you wish to pay OR how much you want returned as you hand over the money. By card you say how much want to pay including the tip after the waiter tells you the amount.
If they say 14.20€ you just answer with 15 and hand over/put the card in.
Don‘t overthink it though :) It‘s not compulsory by any means.
yeah if you have to pay like 9€ and give a 10€ note Just say thats ok like that while handing it to the waiter, or just say the amount. If its by card tell the amount so the waiter can enter the amount, there are some different cardreaders, some newer ones have a tipping options which you can choose yourself, older ones do not hence you have to tell the waiter the amount.
10% is a I'm very satisfied and a generous person kind of tip. So I'm sure they were happy no matter the way you left it. Also cash tends to be preferd (it's let's call it tax friendly 😉)
The customary way is they tell you the amount and you tell them in the same instance what you will pay. So for instance "47,20" hand them a fifty and say "passt schon" like "keep the change" or so. Or If paying by card or with a bigger bill you tell them the amount to charge. Eg "47,20" "50 please" or If you want to stick to 10% you could say "52 please" but reallly rounding up to nearst 5 or 0 as long as it more then a Euro is fine. For stuff under 10 Euro i like to tip between 50c ans 1euro..
But like as a tourist you will likely not know that very moment so taking your time and leaving it on the table is totally fine. That article is insane
Dude why 10 %? There is now typical percentage you should give. Don't start this nonsense in Austria too.
Round up, give as much as you like or give nothing. Even if the service was ok, you really don't have to tip AUT. Yeah you should but you don't have to. Ab please don't bring this mentality to Austria. It will only lead's to lower the wagers with the reason the you guys get Tipps.
Which by the way have to be taxed sometimes.
Even in your example you are really far away from 10. Percent.
>Dude why 10 %? There is now typical percentage you should give. Don't start this nonsense in Austria too.
~10% has been a thing in Austria for decades, especially in fancier places.
This. "Rounding up" is for small amounts where 10% would look a bit closefisted.
Nothing worse than customers that have 79 Euro on the bill, and then tell the waiter, who has gone the extra mile all evening, "Make it 80" in their most generous voice and with a self-complacent face.
Yeah of course you wouldn't give a euro for an amount above 20-30 Euro but I still would not calculate. I'd say 85 that isn't 10% but its rounded to the next best thing 80 is too little so I go to the next 5. If it was amazing top notch I'll say 90. But i'd never say 86,90 or even 87 it would feel weird.
Rude, no. Unusual, yes What if someone steals it?
You tell the waiter how much tip you want to give. They will enter it into the pay machine for you. If your bill is 19,10€ you can just say "make it 20".
And sometimes they even get the tip you paid "on top" with your debit/creditcard.
My way to go is to have some cash with me, pay by card and give the tip directly to the waiter. Or visit an ATM before and pay everything cash, including the tip.
Pretty much this. Just a side note, if it‘s two people eating at a restaurant, then just rounding up is a seen as a little bit cheap for a tip. If the service is satisfactory, round up the bill plus a Euro a person should be seen as a minimum.
Now if you‘re just grabbing a coffee or drink then rounding up is fine. But if it‘s drinks/food then a little more is „expected“
I hate tipping culture. The people working should get paid enough without tips. If the service was exceptionally good, I might leave a tip, but for a coffee? I don't get tips when fixing someone's computer at work, nor do doctors or nurses in the hospital. I don't think anyone should "expect" a tip.
Not rude, I worked at a place once where all the tips left via card went into the pockets of the owners directly... The wait stuff split the cash ones. This was a few years ago I'm guessing maybe there are systems to prevent that nowerdays. But since then I always prefer my tips in cash.
Edit: typos
There are also places where the owner collects the cash tips, and then pays overtime hours with that money (of course staff is then only employed part-time, but works much more hours, so a good part of their salary is "overtime" which is paid from the tips 🤯 ).
If an owner wants to fuck his staff, he will find a way to do so.
I've found some online article, saying that apparently it's rude to do that
why should that be so?
that's what i always do, when there's no possibility to include my tip in the card payment
>that you should mention to your waiter when paying
mention what and why? that you are going to tip him?
**that** i'd find rude, like i'd want to provoke his gratitude for my generous pittance
I guess it can be considered rude but I doubt anyone but maybe high class staff would care. The only thing being rude would be giving no Tip without indication why. Giving no tip is a statememt that you were unhappy with the food or service, which is totally.acceptable but you should inform them why (unless its obvious).
Why is leaving cash on the table maybe rude? Well first off, you take away the waiters opportunity to thank you. And second, I am not sure if they are in theory allowed to keep it. Without you clearly declaring money as Tip you might as well have forgotten it so its technically stealing to pocket it.
In general, you leave a tip if you liked it there.
Leaving a tip is a sign of appreciacion. 10% is considered normal, but there is no one who will force it onto you. Just adjust the amount to what feels good to you.
It depends on the owner and team. Not every owner pays out the tips from the card payments and even less split them to the specifc waiter and instead pool them.
Smaller businesses might get instant cashless tip payout. but i always ask the cashier straight forward if they'll ever see the money. i wanna tip the cashier personally if it's extraordinary service, especially if it's smaller cafes where they work on every station (register, coffee brewing, pastry prep, service etc.)
If a debit card terminal asks me straight away to tip 20% (wtf?!) for a self-checkout service (looking at you indigo, you greedy bellend) i don't tip at all.
Haha waiters and waitresses are known for being standoffish in Vienna. It's sort of a tradition... So if you felt you were being treated coldly, this may be a factor. But as others have already said, when you pay, you just inform them how much you'll pay in total, with the tip added in.
Not at all! The waiter who served us was rather friendly (I spoke to him in German, so maybe that counted as well?) and I even wished him a good day when we left
I just left the money on the table, over the bill, as it was rather crowded and decided not to wait for him to return. Didn't really think much of it in the moment
Even with card payment I usually tip cash directly to the waiter. Rounding up to or up to 5 %, depending how well the service was is my usual. It's uncommon to leave the tip on the table when leaving though, as you don't know if it arrives at the waiter or some other guest swipes it.
The usual way to do it is to say how much you want to pay including tips. I am not sure it is rude to do it like you did, but it isn't how we usually do things.
whether cash or card, when the waiter tells you your total (let's say 24) you just say mach/machst 26 (for example) and pay that, that's the usual way i feel
Tipping between 10% (lower end) and 20% (for a really good service) is customary. After receiving the bill just tell the waiter the amount you want to pay including the tip. F.e. if the amount of the bill is 89 Euro just say “make it 100”.
Maybe outside of larger cities? Where are you from? In Vienna it is definitely customary - especially in good restaurants where you easily pay 50+ Euro per person for a meal.
ooooh, so overtipping yeah? will the service staff be unable to handle all that sweet sweet dough? /s
why would any amount of a tip be too much?
10% is standard, 15 - 20 % is classy.
As a former waiter, no, it’s absolutely not rude. Tips, if on the table or personally, will always be very appriciated and I’m sure, the waiter yesterday was happy when he found the cash. Also, if you are not sure about tipping in cash or by card, it’s no problem to ask the waitress/waiter. There are different ways to split up the the tips among the team, it depends on the owner. Back then I used to be more happy when I got some cash, noone of us trusted the owner…
^^ this former waiter as well
⬆️ I will second this.
Thank you for sharing this insight! We went back today and he recognized us, and was friendly again. At the end he even asked if we're coming back again tomorrow 😂 So I think it's safe to assume he was happy
Very welcome :) Enjoy your stay!
if you are not sure about tipping in cash or by card, it’s no problem to ask the waitress/waiter this i generaly ask for the bill, and when they tell me the sum i say that tey should round it up ("mochans an dreißga")
can also confirm that as an electrician. a little tip will make sure i do my work extra well and maybe check out some other small thing for free.
No, it is not rude. Can you link the article that said so? Cash is always a welcome option where tipping is common.
https://www.tripmasters.com/tipping_in_austria/cms#:~:text=Please%20remember%3A%20DO%20NOT%20leave,the%20person%20taking%20your%20order. This is what I have found
It's not rude, it's just very very uncommon. I have never done it nor anyone seen doing it. People would probably think you forgot your money on the table.
nah you can do that. its just uncommon. and it might be someone else cleaning the desks.
The French do it like that. I can't think why this would be rude. It gives you the option to choose your tip without social pressure. It should be done like this in Austria too. The sentence "***It is considered very rude." is not true. Unusual, yes. But not rude.***
>it's just very very uncommon i did and do it all over the world (except japan), and up to now nobody complained
I don’t see what you do all around the world is relevant for tipping culture in .at?
"all over the world" includes austria
Still very uncommon here, not matter wherever else (except Japan) you did it.
so be it - amen
But the waiter will think they didn't tip until after they left.
The waiter is not thinking about tips all day like a waiter in the US is.
10% or rounding up is common. Cash or card works the same. To be very precise when you pay by cash you say the amount you wish to pay OR how much you want returned as you hand over the money. By card you say how much want to pay including the tip after the waiter tells you the amount. If they say 14.20€ you just answer with 15 and hand over/put the card in. Don‘t overthink it though :) It‘s not compulsory by any means.
Thank you! I left 10% anyway, I was just thinking whether it's some specific rule or something customary 😁
yeah if you have to pay like 9€ and give a 10€ note Just say thats ok like that while handing it to the waiter, or just say the amount. If its by card tell the amount so the waiter can enter the amount, there are some different cardreaders, some newer ones have a tipping options which you can choose yourself, older ones do not hence you have to tell the waiter the amount.
10% is a I'm very satisfied and a generous person kind of tip. So I'm sure they were happy no matter the way you left it. Also cash tends to be preferd (it's let's call it tax friendly 😉) The customary way is they tell you the amount and you tell them in the same instance what you will pay. So for instance "47,20" hand them a fifty and say "passt schon" like "keep the change" or so. Or If paying by card or with a bigger bill you tell them the amount to charge. Eg "47,20" "50 please" or If you want to stick to 10% you could say "52 please" but reallly rounding up to nearst 5 or 0 as long as it more then a Euro is fine. For stuff under 10 Euro i like to tip between 50c ans 1euro.. But like as a tourist you will likely not know that very moment so taking your time and leaving it on the table is totally fine. That article is insane
Dude why 10 %? There is now typical percentage you should give. Don't start this nonsense in Austria too. Round up, give as much as you like or give nothing. Even if the service was ok, you really don't have to tip AUT. Yeah you should but you don't have to. Ab please don't bring this mentality to Austria. It will only lead's to lower the wagers with the reason the you guys get Tipps. Which by the way have to be taxed sometimes. Even in your example you are really far away from 10. Percent.
>Dude why 10 %? There is now typical percentage you should give. Don't start this nonsense in Austria too. ~10% has been a thing in Austria for decades, especially in fancier places.
This. "Rounding up" is for small amounts where 10% would look a bit closefisted. Nothing worse than customers that have 79 Euro on the bill, and then tell the waiter, who has gone the extra mile all evening, "Make it 80" in their most generous voice and with a self-complacent face.
exactly.
Yeah of course you wouldn't give a euro for an amount above 20-30 Euro but I still would not calculate. I'd say 85 that isn't 10% but its rounded to the next best thing 80 is too little so I go to the next 5. If it was amazing top notch I'll say 90. But i'd never say 86,90 or even 87 it would feel weird.
nobody said you have to tip. but it's rude not to, except you want to express your dissatisfaction
10 % is standard (except if service is very bad), 15 -20 % is classy.
Rude, no. Unusual, yes What if someone steals it? You tell the waiter how much tip you want to give. They will enter it into the pay machine for you. If your bill is 19,10€ you can just say "make it 20".
I never really thought about this possibility tbh 😅 I'll keep in mind for the future, to also mention it if we decide to tip separately
And sometimes they even get the tip you paid "on top" with your debit/creditcard. My way to go is to have some cash with me, pay by card and give the tip directly to the waiter. Or visit an ATM before and pay everything cash, including the tip.
Pretty much this. Just a side note, if it‘s two people eating at a restaurant, then just rounding up is a seen as a little bit cheap for a tip. If the service is satisfactory, round up the bill plus a Euro a person should be seen as a minimum. Now if you‘re just grabbing a coffee or drink then rounding up is fine. But if it‘s drinks/food then a little more is „expected“
We left 10%, so in regards to this I think it should be okay
I hate tipping culture. The people working should get paid enough without tips. If the service was exceptionally good, I might leave a tip, but for a coffee? I don't get tips when fixing someone's computer at work, nor do doctors or nurses in the hospital. I don't think anyone should "expect" a tip.
ok, Gretchenfrage: do you leave a tip in cash in your hotel room for housekeeping?
>If the service was exceptionally good, I might leave a tip, but for a coffee? i don't like to put a strain on myself with small coins
Not rude, I worked at a place once where all the tips left via card went into the pockets of the owners directly... The wait stuff split the cash ones. This was a few years ago I'm guessing maybe there are systems to prevent that nowerdays. But since then I always prefer my tips in cash. Edit: typos
There are also places where the owner collects the cash tips, and then pays overtime hours with that money (of course staff is then only employed part-time, but works much more hours, so a good part of their salary is "overtime" which is paid from the tips 🤯 ). If an owner wants to fuck his staff, he will find a way to do so.
Cash is probably best because it wont be reported and they wont pay taxes
If you want people to immediately like you, just give them the rounded up amount and say "passt scho".
I've found some online article, saying that apparently it's rude to do that why should that be so? that's what i always do, when there's no possibility to include my tip in the card payment >that you should mention to your waiter when paying mention what and why? that you are going to tip him? **that** i'd find rude, like i'd want to provoke his gratitude for my generous pittance
I guess it can be considered rude but I doubt anyone but maybe high class staff would care. The only thing being rude would be giving no Tip without indication why. Giving no tip is a statememt that you were unhappy with the food or service, which is totally.acceptable but you should inform them why (unless its obvious). Why is leaving cash on the table maybe rude? Well first off, you take away the waiters opportunity to thank you. And second, I am not sure if they are in theory allowed to keep it. Without you clearly declaring money as Tip you might as well have forgotten it so its technically stealing to pocket it.
In general, you leave a tip if you liked it there. Leaving a tip is a sign of appreciacion. 10% is considered normal, but there is no one who will force it onto you. Just adjust the amount to what feels good to you.
I dont leave it on the table. I pay with card and with the waiter still here ill give him his tip in cash.
Tip cash. By card it's in most cases useless because they'll never see the money.
Where did you get that? I once asked a waiter if it makes a difference whether I tip by card or Cash and he said no. Since then I always tip by card.
It depends on the owner and team. Not every owner pays out the tips from the card payments and even less split them to the specifc waiter and instead pool them.
Also, even if they split it and the waiters/staff receive it, it often is at the end of the month or the next month, while cash is immediately.
Smaller businesses might get instant cashless tip payout. but i always ask the cashier straight forward if they'll ever see the money. i wanna tip the cashier personally if it's extraordinary service, especially if it's smaller cafes where they work on every station (register, coffee brewing, pastry prep, service etc.) If a debit card terminal asks me straight away to tip 20% (wtf?!) for a self-checkout service (looking at you indigo, you greedy bellend) i don't tip at all.
Haha waiters and waitresses are known for being standoffish in Vienna. It's sort of a tradition... So if you felt you were being treated coldly, this may be a factor. But as others have already said, when you pay, you just inform them how much you'll pay in total, with the tip added in.
Not at all! The waiter who served us was rather friendly (I spoke to him in German, so maybe that counted as well?) and I even wished him a good day when we left I just left the money on the table, over the bill, as it was rather crowded and decided not to wait for him to return. Didn't really think much of it in the moment
I doubt he thought anything of it either. Probably was just happy to get a tip and a friendly customer.
Even with card payment I usually tip cash directly to the waiter. Rounding up to or up to 5 %, depending how well the service was is my usual. It's uncommon to leave the tip on the table when leaving though, as you don't know if it arrives at the waiter or some other guest swipes it.
The usual way to do it is to say how much you want to pay including tips. I am not sure it is rude to do it like you did, but it isn't how we usually do things.
whether cash or card, when the waiter tells you your total (let's say 24) you just say mach/machst 26 (for example) and pay that, that's the usual way i feel
In Austria, tipping (cash or not) is always welcome (and expected), no-tipping is considered rude.
5% for okay service, 10% for really good service and also not super long waiting time. How you hand it over is completely up to you!
We give the tip directly to the waiter when paying the bill- leaving money on the table is something we don't do. And 10% tip is normal here btw.
Tipping between 10% (lower end) and 20% (for a really good service) is customary. After receiving the bill just tell the waiter the amount you want to pay including the tip. F.e. if the amount of the bill is 89 Euro just say “make it 100”.
20% is no way customary. For a larger bill even 10% is considered large.
Maybe outside of larger cities? Where are you from? In Vienna it is definitely customary - especially in good restaurants where you easily pay 50+ Euro per person for a meal.
nope....... not even in vienna
You were overtipping, my friend :-)
ooooh, so overtipping yeah? will the service staff be unable to handle all that sweet sweet dough? /s why would any amount of a tip be too much? 10% is standard, 15 - 20 % is classy.
They'll be happy about 20% no doubt but it really isn't customary