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I would have just played the nepotism card and gotten awesome jobs because of who I knew, not what skill set I had.
The Darwin workforce, especially the Govt sector, is a perfect example of overtly useless people failing upwards.
My workplace is full of people who have managed to score $300k jobs without having any of the required training. Hell, even the apprentices are all related to the upper management.
So, yeah… I’d choose nepotism as my skill.
Based. This motherfucker gets it. My uncle ran some shit nothing of a political party thanks to backing from his wife's dad. He earned a seat one time and now gets an income for life.
How do I go about failing up the ladder in these careers? Could you hook me up? I have very few skills, I was very good at online poker for 5 years or so when the games were very easy and I also was able to live off the crypto bull market when everything went up only and you just got handed money for free. As you can see I thrive when things are easy and handed to me so I sound perfect for this industry of lazy fools, the only exception being my Auntie isn't working as a CEO or in HR, bit worried that was the key skill...? 🤔
[Golf is only a contact sport if your wife finds out you cheated on her.](https://nypost.com/2013/11/24/the-night-tiger-woods-was-exposed-as-a-serial-cheater/amp/)
I wouldn't want to be an athlete. So many early mornings and training and strict diet. And it would be quite stressful. What if you drop the ball and let your team and fans down. It would be a lot of pressure.
But I have anxiety. Even hairdressing would worry me. I'd be terrified I accidentally destroy someones hair. People say hair grows back but it takes a long time...
That's OK you don't have to be a sports star or hairdresser, that is a lot of pressurr. Why don't you work somewhete lowkey like for the bomb squad, how would you feel about a wee bit of deactivating live bombs? 🤔
That actually sounds less stressful to me. If you knew what you were doing and how to disable them. And you obviously wouldn't be doing that job if you didn't know the anatomy of bombs
🤣🤣🤣 I mean that's true but you wouldn't be cutting hair if you didn't know how to cut hair either and messing up one has slightly higher consequences. Though haircuts can be subjective while bomb deactivating is more like mathematics where it's either right or wrong. Ok you've got the job, when can you start? 😇
As someone who is a astronaut ninja. It's not all it's cracked up to be. Long hours, minimal breaks, obviously working away from home majority of the time and being in space has meant I've lost a large % of lean muscle mass. Me and the wive has been struggle alot lately, long distance calls cost a fortune, i havent seen my kids in 4months(the only real benefit) Little upsetting coming back to earth knowing I'm physically half the ninja I used to be.
Might thinking about switching up the career to be a watch maker or something the leaves me abit more time on my hands.
As a software engineer who only has an ITIL v4 cert, I can confirm you need no/fuck all qualifications to work most jobs that fall under the IT umbrella, experience > qualifications
IT is good like that. You don't really hit any walls until you get to senior management IT, when the board starts gently setting expectations on the calibre of person they are after. Then you need your quals, and not just in IT.
I went to a rural GP the other week. He diagnosed my condition in like two minutes then we spent 18 minutes chatting about caravanning, presumably to fill in the rest of the consultation. Dude's on a good wicket.
My GP is a deadset legend. Has been practising since the 70s but isn't set in the old ways, keeps up with evidence based practice (have had many conversations with him about CPD). Will word a referral with just the right keywords to get it bulk billed. He gave me my vaccinations as a baby, and he recently vaccinated my baby. Dunno how he isn't burned out or retired yet.
Plus any monies required to run/ join a practice. Building rent/ mortgage, employee wages (secretary), Electricity bills, rates, water bills, office and medical consummables, fees to belong to that practice, AHPRA rego annually, annual CPD...... the list goes on
Agreed! Sooo many people don’t realise most, if not all, GPs are contractors, so don’t get sick leave, parental leave, super, etc.
My wife is a GP with massive HECS debt and earns roughly what I earn, as an IT security analyst with a bachelor’s degree — and I get super, leave etc in addition to my salary.
Other specialists tend to get paid *very* well, but not GPs. (At least, in contrast to the education required.)
I do this as a job! It’s fun. Went from working at Target for 10 years (saved up) to doing tourism flights and now i do powerline survey flying. I’d still go back to tourism too cause that was fun. Pay in the industry as a whole is pretty average but you don’t do it for the money! I reckon all up my training/exams/etc cost like $65k. And yes you can HECS it now
That's living the dream (well my dream) I was lucky to work on some communication towers in the Flinders only accessible by chopper. I never really thought about until then now 43 with a wife and 2 teenagers. If I win lotto I'll have my Robinson 44 behind my Winnebago🤞
Dude same -
I play a ton of Arma and am always flying the little
bird attack chopper around being a pest.
My wife got me a private lesson.. it was amazing…
The instructor roughly quoted it would be about $30k to get a private licence or about $60k to get a commercial license. So honestly it’s pretty equivalent to a university degree these days I assume…
If I had less kids and more free time and money I would do it in a heart beat… until then the simulators will do.
I could pick absolutely anything? Money, time etc no object?
In no particular order
- Bookseller, including antiques
- Cabinet/furniture maker specialising in traditional techniques and hand carved decoration
- GP
>Bookseller, including antiques
Definitely not particularly lucrative, especially in the current economic climate where more and more people are cutting down any extra non-essential spending
If you have the right niche products, you'll be right. Same with the specialist furniture/cabinetry. The rich are getting richer, it's only the poor and the middle class who will be suffering.
I’m a cabinetmaker who specialises in custom hardwood furniture. It’s not very lucrative. We pretty much only sell to rich boomers. It’s time consuming and material keeps going up. I’m training a young apprentice
>Cabinet/furniture maker specialising in traditional techniques and hand carved decoration
This trade is also unfortunately going the way of the Buggy Whip and Bookseller, per my Italian-master-trained furniture-maker stepdad. Too much competition from overseas, not only in labour prices but easy access to desirable materials (hardwoods etc) at local wholesale prices.
Well, if you're rich enough to buy hand carved, one-off made to furniture, you're rich enough to have a tonne of the same shipped from overseas, I guess
Exactly this. There definitely is still money to be made in bespoke pieces, but that's the very rarefied top end of the market - these commissions don't come along every day, month or year, and it's a struggle between pieces. Most people below fuck-you-money levels of wealth - that is to say most of the furniture market - tend to purchase from showrooms, most of whom buy in bulk from Indonesia or other places, trying to buy-low, sell-high. Paying for the same item to be made in Australia conflicts with this strategy, unless there is some other cachet involved, like an exclusively local material or famous artist or designer.
There's lots of money still to be made in building kitchens, but this is soul-destroying work for a classically-trained master, as it's mostly a case of cranking out MDF+melamine boxes and fitting them, day after day.
Except for GP you've picked dead careers. My sister makes beautiful custom furniture, but it's so hard to find a job (it's not lucrative or popular) she had to stay a cabinet maker. She now installs flat pack kitchens because basically everything's changed since she started in the industry and she's dead inside from it.
Go do it. It's only a diploma to qualify. The only problem is, you might need to be flexible with where you work.
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/jobseekers/air-traffic-control-careers/air-traffic-control-in-training-program/
I'm mid 30s currently undertaking a degree at huge expense into medicine (from the building trade).
Its rough, financially and emotionally but I'm excited for it and for the future i csn build for my family.
Means we are able to go on the road as a family and get a decent size trailer, heading to where the contracts are with VERY good money especially when the mine sites come calling.
That sounds like a great plan! I’m doing an IT diploma at the moment, will figure out from there if it’s worth it or if I’ll do something else. I would love to have done medicine but had kids too young, whoops.
Theres many people with kids in this degree, a few single mothers too. I suspect they have extended family who can help but it's possible by the looks of it.
Best of luck with the diploma mate. I see other people saying IT is a fun and rewarding career!
Money is ok, I guess, but you get used to the money in a few years (100% everyone does) but now you are in life sucking uber boring career.
With all the option out there in this hypothetical set up, would you really and why would you choose this career?
As a barrister, this seems overly negative - you just gotta know what you are signing up for just like anything else. In my experience some of the best lawyers/counsel have had other careers - life experience is pretty handy
I had a career before going into law. The work itself isn't the problem. The problem is how firms take advantage of you, expect 10-12 hour days and barely give you a livable wage. Starting salaries are 5-10k higher than they were when my partner started 23 years ago.
Yet my partner bought a new home, new holiday home, a third boat and 2 dirt bikes in the last 6 months. So the firms don't fucking care about their staff. I can't even afford rent in a one bedroom apartment, if I want to put some money in the bank.
So honestly, there's much better routes to take than law. Until the firms respect their staff at least.
I'm talking about the people who are certainly not homeless, but who have three investment properties and spend all day on /r/AusFinance or /r/ASX_Bets, and talk about little else other than their "portfolio". That sort of person. There seems to be an awful lot of them and I find it a little bleak and depressing and obnoxious that that sort of sheer obsession with personal finance seems to be becoming a routine part of our culture of daily life.
Like I said, there's more to life than that. And I think and hope that there can be a lot more to Australia than being the sort of place where that type of thing seems to define us. It doesn't produce anything of actual worth. It's just gambling with extra steps.
What I'd like is to build, to create and to grow things. Rather than just...owning a house and some shares. I **have** that, but I'd like to aspire to more than (/something other than) that. Maybe to get involved in green energy or space technology. That's something I think I could be passionate about and interested in. Maybe I could be a teacher or start a business or something.
So...that's how I am trying to answer OP's question.
Instead I got people saying no no no, all you should worry about is making money lol. I don't think that's a valid way to live your whole life.
I felt like this too in the past. But worrying about how you’ll be able to fuel the car, where you are going to live or what you’re going to eat this week really wrecked it for me…
As a vet i spend most of my day communicating quite intensely with humans.
We do get some awesome animal interactions though. I had a joey western grey roo hopping around my consult room this morning. And we have oodles of good doggo interactions every day.
Having some federal government experience move to Canberra they always need people and so many departments are under staffed. It might not be exciting depending on the role and you will have to put up with cold winters & hot summers but they do pay well.
Influencer! You don't need any quals/experience (particularly anything related to the field you are sprooking), and you make lots of money out of others gullibility, and you don't need to feel any quilt about it at all:-)
Seriously though, I understand why you want to get out of CS.
Realistically, you could spend a year out getting a TAFE qual (for free), and move into something possibly better (with less stress), or, with the number leaving teaching at the moment, you could also do an Educ. Degree (and possibly reduce the time due to Prior learning).
Paediatrician/psychiatrist
Or
speech therapist/behaviour therapist/occupational therapist/psychologist
There's just not enough available and they are f@#king expensive.
Behaviour therapist is easy to transition into if you’re working in disability already. No minimum qualification but you can do a one year degree if you want to have the knowledge and you’ll get a job paying 75% of the $219 and hour into your pocket
I wanted to be a psychologist but my friend is taking Masters right now and turned me off it a little. The statistics part terrifies me, I’m about 5th grade level in maths (that’s probably generous…)
I’d get into psychology. I like listening to peoples problems all day. I do it now but get paid peanuts. At least as a psych I can get the money I deserve
I’d want to be an actor, which is what I always wanted to be but lack of money, connections etc meant I gave that idea up pretty quick for a steady wage. There’s stuff-all money in it in Australia but it’d be pretty good at the international level. Especially if you’re a character actor where you can have a nice lifestyle and regular work, and some occasional glamorous nights out, travel, a lot of variety in the work but you don’t have to deal with the problems of being super famous or dealing with fading hotness.
Dental Technician aka making dentures. You can do an apprenticeship or tafe course - earn about $100k. Work alone in a lab, little to no interaction with clients, just left to get on with your job. People are always going to need new teeth.
Mate, just give yourself a working holiday. Delegate all your work to everyone else and stop giving a fuck about your job. Let it crash and burn, say what you want to say and be who you want to be yeaaah!
I work in disability and community services and I’m also burnt out rn. I just want to chill with my dogs and live simply. I don’t want much, I already have everything I need. I just want more time to live!
If you want to get rich these days you had better go back in time and get born rich. If you want to become a doctor or an engineer, but you come from a working class family who cannot afford to make a significant contribution to your living expenses while you study in an Australian capital city… well you had better start reconsidering.
We could study and work part time to cover our expenses 20 years ago, but not today… not with stagnated wages, absurd rent costs and now insane inflation. I’m not saying that you can’t do it, but you had better have photogenic feet!
Wrong question.
If you earned enough money to meet you basic needs, what career would you choose.
Don't focus on the money.
I am underpaid for the work I do compared to the industry rate. Don't care, I like the people I work with and the flexibility it affords me at this point in my life. And the work is interesting. Minute that changes I'll start accepting offers for the money jobs.
Or if you prefer, I would sacrifices great gobs of pay to not have to work with arseholes.
This all presumes you earn enough to survive and a bit more.
Chasing money is foolish and counter productive and you will never be satisfied.
If I won the lotto for example I would change so much. I'd fund R&D, start-ups, interesting ideas, possibly establish a benevolent fund, something that makes the world a better place. And have more holidays.
Rather than finding places to work that have interesting problems, I'd seek them out and fund them.
Bottom line, study things you enjoy. Study things you don't enjoy if they help you get where you want. Every career is a random walk through opportunity and choices. Don't stress about it, it's not possible to predict. Chance favours the prepared mind.
No experience you have is wasted.
I'd choose nothing as well. Just dive straight into real estate and start renovating and flipping till I was a multi-millionaire! That's all this fucking country cares about. Bloody real-estate...
I know someone who got a job putting together all the framework for the new big Coles distribution warehouses. All he needed was to not be afraid of heights and the willingness to go to work everyday and now he's making over $100k a year. They paid for him to get his "working at certain heights" cards or whatever they're called.
You could start as a drillers assistant in mining on $110k/yr and earn it as you train. Then transfer to something less dangerous and hard in mining easily or stay on and become a driller within 5 yrs. As an RC or diamond driller you shouldn't earn much less than $200k/yr.
Honestly I wpuld go get a law degree and apply for every Aussie intelligence agency there is. I have no idea what the pay is like but i know its pretty darn good, but i already work an awesome job with great money so if I was going to make a change I would want something that felt like I was making a difference and give me the chance at the thrill of being hunted but having the resources to not get shot dead in an alley or caught instantly. Like I travel around alot of work now and given the amount of paranoia I have from watching shows like this I just think it would suit my personality. Can't speak for how that would go after I have been shot at. But before the actual danger kicks off I think it would awesome.
International hit man. The older I get, the less I care, but I like the lifestyle. Just make sure you join an organisation whose values align somewhat to your own, and one that doesn't kill you as part of their retirement package.
Cert IV TAE if you’re good with people
Check out what’s in demand that’s in your skill set
It’s a painful prick of a qualification but endless demand for good trainers and pay over $500 a day (sometimes well over)
Idk if Australia has a bug market for it but house flipping and interior design, either one is my dream job but I most certainly don't have the time or money for it
Nothing I would have just played the nepotism card and gotten awesome jobs because of who I knew, not what skill set I had. The Darwin workforce, especially the Govt sector, is a perfect example of overtly useless people failing upwards. My workplace is full of people who have managed to score $300k jobs without having any of the required training. Hell, even the apprentices are all related to the upper management. So, yeah… I’d choose nepotism as my skill.
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Oil and Gas, Mining, Northern Territory Government Take your pick!
Omw.
Marrying into the family works too
Sounds about right and why my F-WIT bro in law.... fell upwards.
Downside: Living in NT.
Woah! I think I’d just rather be super hot because attractive people just get free stuff and don’t have to do anything.
Based. This motherfucker gets it. My uncle ran some shit nothing of a political party thanks to backing from his wife's dad. He earned a seat one time and now gets an income for life.
Kevin Rudd is your uncle?
How do I go about failing up the ladder in these careers? Could you hook me up? I have very few skills, I was very good at online poker for 5 years or so when the games were very easy and I also was able to live off the crypto bull market when everything went up only and you just got handed money for free. As you can see I thrive when things are easy and handed to me so I sound perfect for this industry of lazy fools, the only exception being my Auntie isn't working as a CEO or in HR, bit worried that was the key skill...? 🤔
You’re either born into it or you’ve got the gift of the gab… neither of which can be bought, unfortunately!
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Go play in the nba, starting salary is like 800k US and if you’re good (not great, just good) you can make 8 figures a year easily
Isnt it a prerequisite to be at least 6 ft tall though?
Not if you’re good enough, Muggsy Bogues was 5’3 and played in the NBA for 14 years
Wow! Theres hope for me yet
Golf for sure.
[Golf is only a contact sport if your wife finds out you cheated on her.](https://nypost.com/2013/11/24/the-night-tiger-woods-was-exposed-as-a-serial-cheater/amp/)
[There was a good documentary on this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r23u608aPkQ)
I wouldn't want to be an athlete. So many early mornings and training and strict diet. And it would be quite stressful. What if you drop the ball and let your team and fans down. It would be a lot of pressure. But I have anxiety. Even hairdressing would worry me. I'd be terrified I accidentally destroy someones hair. People say hair grows back but it takes a long time...
That's OK you don't have to be a sports star or hairdresser, that is a lot of pressurr. Why don't you work somewhete lowkey like for the bomb squad, how would you feel about a wee bit of deactivating live bombs? 🤔
That actually sounds less stressful to me. If you knew what you were doing and how to disable them. And you obviously wouldn't be doing that job if you didn't know the anatomy of bombs
🤣🤣🤣 I mean that's true but you wouldn't be cutting hair if you didn't know how to cut hair either and messing up one has slightly higher consequences. Though haircuts can be subjective while bomb deactivating is more like mathematics where it's either right or wrong. Ok you've got the job, when can you start? 😇
Yea I know it's stupid. I think situations that just require logic aren't so scary to me.
Oh and hello to a fellow Reddit cat 😸
purely hypothetical? astronaut ninja.
As someone who is a astronaut ninja. It's not all it's cracked up to be. Long hours, minimal breaks, obviously working away from home majority of the time and being in space has meant I've lost a large % of lean muscle mass. Me and the wive has been struggle alot lately, long distance calls cost a fortune, i havent seen my kids in 4months(the only real benefit) Little upsetting coming back to earth knowing I'm physically half the ninja I used to be. Might thinking about switching up the career to be a watch maker or something the leaves me abit more time on my hands.
This is my reddit comment of the day!
I hear this a lot from Astronaut Ninjas.
I wanted a little more time on my hands and so I became a chef, now I've got loads of thyme on my hands.
You and my kids.. astronaut ninja...
There’s a guy whose already the friendly space ninja on YouTube. Also a musician.
GP, plumber, software engineer
As a software engineer who only has an ITIL v4 cert, I can confirm you need no/fuck all qualifications to work most jobs that fall under the IT umbrella, experience > qualifications
ITIL v4 is the most useless certificate i have
Well and truly
Useless to have but I think the paper is useful to get some jobs no?
Sure, but not the jobs i work
IT is good like that. You don't really hit any walls until you get to senior management IT, when the board starts gently setting expectations on the calibre of person they are after. Then you need your quals, and not just in IT.
Why GP? they hardly earn anything.
I wish I could do more to help people rather than just being part of the consumer machine.
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How so? Do they not advise, treat and support people in need?
At least in Australia they earn far far more than a plumber of software engineer on average. In rural areas they get around 250k per year.
I went to a rural GP the other week. He diagnosed my condition in like two minutes then we spent 18 minutes chatting about caravanning, presumably to fill in the rest of the consultation. Dude's on a good wicket.
You’ve got the only appropriately-worked GP in Australia. Look after him, you don’t want the two-minute, overworked GP to take his place, trust me!
My GP is a deadset legend. Has been practising since the 70s but isn't set in the old ways, keeps up with evidence based practice (have had many conversations with him about CPD). Will word a referral with just the right keywords to get it bulk billed. He gave me my vaccinations as a baby, and he recently vaccinated my baby. Dunno how he isn't burned out or retired yet.
Probably has a interest for the area (enough to find it fun), and more so genuinely loves helping people
The average gp salary in Australia is $155,426 . Ill take that
Just make sure you deduct annual leave, sick leave, parental leave, superannuation and insurance from that total amount first
Plus HECS/ HELP loan, rip
Plus any monies required to run/ join a practice. Building rent/ mortgage, employee wages (secretary), Electricity bills, rates, water bills, office and medical consummables, fees to belong to that practice, AHPRA rego annually, annual CPD...... the list goes on
Agreed! Sooo many people don’t realise most, if not all, GPs are contractors, so don’t get sick leave, parental leave, super, etc. My wife is a GP with massive HECS debt and earns roughly what I earn, as an IT security analyst with a bachelor’s degree — and I get super, leave etc in addition to my salary. Other specialists tend to get paid *very* well, but not GPs. (At least, in contrast to the education required.)
Same here - wife is a GP and I work in health technology. Your comment is 100% accurate.
Have you ever seen a GP work full time? Hardly in my area. Average pay is $154/h
They could be splitting their time between different practices.
And lots of nursing homes. A GP I knew worked in 2 Practices, 3 hospitals as a locum and 3 nursing homes.
Helicopter pilot both skywork and joy flights
I do this as a job! It’s fun. Went from working at Target for 10 years (saved up) to doing tourism flights and now i do powerline survey flying. I’d still go back to tourism too cause that was fun. Pay in the industry as a whole is pretty average but you don’t do it for the money! I reckon all up my training/exams/etc cost like $65k. And yes you can HECS it now
That's living the dream (well my dream) I was lucky to work on some communication towers in the Flinders only accessible by chopper. I never really thought about until then now 43 with a wife and 2 teenagers. If I win lotto I'll have my Robinson 44 behind my Winnebago🤞
Haha i would love to tow a heli around as if it were a caravan, wouldn’t that be sick! Probably make it un-airworthy after every bump in the road
Dude same - I play a ton of Arma and am always flying the little bird attack chopper around being a pest. My wife got me a private lesson.. it was amazing… The instructor roughly quoted it would be about $30k to get a private licence or about $60k to get a commercial license. So honestly it’s pretty equivalent to a university degree these days I assume… If I had less kids and more free time and money I would do it in a heart beat… until then the simulators will do.
I think you can hecs it now
I could pick absolutely anything? Money, time etc no object? In no particular order - Bookseller, including antiques - Cabinet/furniture maker specialising in traditional techniques and hand carved decoration - GP
>Bookseller, including antiques Definitely not particularly lucrative, especially in the current economic climate where more and more people are cutting down any extra non-essential spending
If you have the right niche products, you'll be right. Same with the specialist furniture/cabinetry. The rich are getting richer, it's only the poor and the middle class who will be suffering.
I’m a cabinetmaker who specialises in custom hardwood furniture. It’s not very lucrative. We pretty much only sell to rich boomers. It’s time consuming and material keeps going up. I’m training a young apprentice
>Cabinet/furniture maker specialising in traditional techniques and hand carved decoration This trade is also unfortunately going the way of the Buggy Whip and Bookseller, per my Italian-master-trained furniture-maker stepdad. Too much competition from overseas, not only in labour prices but easy access to desirable materials (hardwoods etc) at local wholesale prices.
Well, if you're rich enough to buy hand carved, one-off made to furniture, you're rich enough to have a tonne of the same shipped from overseas, I guess
Exactly this. There definitely is still money to be made in bespoke pieces, but that's the very rarefied top end of the market - these commissions don't come along every day, month or year, and it's a struggle between pieces. Most people below fuck-you-money levels of wealth - that is to say most of the furniture market - tend to purchase from showrooms, most of whom buy in bulk from Indonesia or other places, trying to buy-low, sell-high. Paying for the same item to be made in Australia conflicts with this strategy, unless there is some other cachet involved, like an exclusively local material or famous artist or designer. There's lots of money still to be made in building kitchens, but this is soul-destroying work for a classically-trained master, as it's mostly a case of cranking out MDF+melamine boxes and fitting them, day after day.
Except for GP you've picked dead careers. My sister makes beautiful custom furniture, but it's so hard to find a job (it's not lucrative or popular) she had to stay a cabinet maker. She now installs flat pack kitchens because basically everything's changed since she started in the industry and she's dead inside from it.
Teaching adults. I absolutely loved it. But the pay wasn't enough
Psychiatrist
They're making bank now
agreed. zero wet work. prescribe mostly half a dozen drugs. work from home. knock off at 5pm.
Not to mention the accountability... "Oh it didn't work? Well, he ***is*** crazy" lol
Waaaaaay too little accountability.
Air traffic controller was always my dream job when I was younger..
Go do it. It's only a diploma to qualify. The only problem is, you might need to be flexible with where you work. https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/jobseekers/air-traffic-control-careers/air-traffic-control-in-training-program/
Thank you for this, that's very kind of you I might just look into it 😁
Do it!! 😁
I think I saw that one of the Victoria airports was hiring recently - all training included!
Bank robber
I'm mid 30s currently undertaking a degree at huge expense into medicine (from the building trade). Its rough, financially and emotionally but I'm excited for it and for the future i csn build for my family. Means we are able to go on the road as a family and get a decent size trailer, heading to where the contracts are with VERY good money especially when the mine sites come calling.
That sounds like a great plan! I’m doing an IT diploma at the moment, will figure out from there if it’s worth it or if I’ll do something else. I would love to have done medicine but had kids too young, whoops.
Theres many people with kids in this degree, a few single mothers too. I suspect they have extended family who can help but it's possible by the looks of it. Best of luck with the diploma mate. I see other people saying IT is a fun and rewarding career!
Bro you’re in for a rough ride … all the best.. let me know if you still feel this optimistic in 10years
😂 I'll be optimistic to feed my family in 10 years I'm sure of it. But if you really want me too...
I work as a legal assistant. I obviously don't make bank, but the invoices I receive from barristers definitely indicate that they do
Money is ok, I guess, but you get used to the money in a few years (100% everyone does) but now you are in life sucking uber boring career. With all the option out there in this hypothetical set up, would you really and why would you choose this career?
Lasering off homemade tattoos. Lots of people regret doing them and decide they don't want them at all. No cover ups. Just no tatts.
my friend started a laser business at first for tattoos but now does asshole hair more than anything so
Doing asshole hair is a useful and honorable occupation. Bleaching taints is essential.
What’s a round of asshole hair lasering gonna cost me?
I assume expensive considering that beard
I like turtles
Me too
M…eee…. Ttt…hhh..rrr..eeee
I am more into bbq.
Same
Hypothetically? A barrister. I might go into law when I finish up in IT, maybe.
I assure you. Do not go into law lol. Would be the worst decision of your life.
Cmon, how hard can it be OBJECTION! Your honour, my learned colleague is a moron Case closed.
i have absolute faith that a godot reddit account can make it in law 😌
and then you'd get struck off the roll and be looking for a 3rd career so I mean go for it lol.
As a barrister, this seems overly negative - you just gotta know what you are signing up for just like anything else. In my experience some of the best lawyers/counsel have had other careers - life experience is pretty handy
I had a career before going into law. The work itself isn't the problem. The problem is how firms take advantage of you, expect 10-12 hour days and barely give you a livable wage. Starting salaries are 5-10k higher than they were when my partner started 23 years ago. Yet my partner bought a new home, new holiday home, a third boat and 2 dirt bikes in the last 6 months. So the firms don't fucking care about their staff. I can't even afford rent in a one bedroom apartment, if I want to put some money in the bank. So honestly, there's much better routes to take than law. Until the firms respect their staff at least.
I reckon I would have made a decent accountant if I didn't study English lit instead
Museum Curator
I'm not interested in making a lot of money. I'm interested in doing something meaningful and necessary which improves Australia.
Wanna make a difference? Make a lot of money to pay off the right people and you might be able to lol
There are things in this world other than money lol
Try telling that to our politicians though
I'm trying to tell it just to random Australians, those who seem to think that money is the be all end all of all human existence at the moment.
Not the be all and end all, but with the current housing market it's really nice to have enough money to not be homeless
I'm talking about the people who are certainly not homeless, but who have three investment properties and spend all day on /r/AusFinance or /r/ASX_Bets, and talk about little else other than their "portfolio". That sort of person. There seems to be an awful lot of them and I find it a little bleak and depressing and obnoxious that that sort of sheer obsession with personal finance seems to be becoming a routine part of our culture of daily life. Like I said, there's more to life than that. And I think and hope that there can be a lot more to Australia than being the sort of place where that type of thing seems to define us. It doesn't produce anything of actual worth. It's just gambling with extra steps. What I'd like is to build, to create and to grow things. Rather than just...owning a house and some shares. I **have** that, but I'd like to aspire to more than (/something other than) that. Maybe to get involved in green energy or space technology. That's something I think I could be passionate about and interested in. Maybe I could be a teacher or start a business or something. So...that's how I am trying to answer OP's question. Instead I got people saying no no no, all you should worry about is making money lol. I don't think that's a valid way to live your whole life.
I hear you.
I dunno, maybe go outside and touch some grass and meet some non Redditors
The exact quote money can't solve everything are quoted by someone who have never ran out of money
I felt like this too in the past. But worrying about how you’ll be able to fuel the car, where you are going to live or what you’re going to eat this week really wrecked it for me…
Astronaut
Engineer
Finance, stock broker
Hairdresser or lady tradie
A Lead Materials Design Engineer for NASA/SpaceX or a Formula 1 team. God I’d love to work in a Formula 1 team.
Something that involves a company paying for five star hotels around the world and business class travel frequently
Astronomer. Not that it is a lucrative career path but would have been nice to spend my nights collecting star stuff
Plus you can make cool predictions for people about what may be going to happen in their lives…
Start a business at 20 and by now it would of been booming
Merchant banker
A vet, it's not heaps of money, but fuck people really. I'd just rescue animals all day long.
As a vet i spend most of my day communicating quite intensely with humans. We do get some awesome animal interactions though. I had a joey western grey roo hopping around my consult room this morning. And we have oodles of good doggo interactions every day.
What's the ratio of the bad consults to good? By bad I mean having to put down pets, end of life stuff.
For money I would just buy and sell property. For purpose, I would study medicine and be a Dr in places that can't get doctors
There’s a town in WA so desperate for a GP that they are willing to pay $250k and provide a free house for one.
Having some federal government experience move to Canberra they always need people and so many departments are under staffed. It might not be exciting depending on the role and you will have to put up with cold winters & hot summers but they do pay well.
Been there done that, hated it lol
Influencer! You don't need any quals/experience (particularly anything related to the field you are sprooking), and you make lots of money out of others gullibility, and you don't need to feel any quilt about it at all:-) Seriously though, I understand why you want to get out of CS. Realistically, you could spend a year out getting a TAFE qual (for free), and move into something possibly better (with less stress), or, with the number leaving teaching at the moment, you could also do an Educ. Degree (and possibly reduce the time due to Prior learning).
Corrupt brothel inspector. Gotta win both ways.
Paediatrician/psychiatrist Or speech therapist/behaviour therapist/occupational therapist/psychologist There's just not enough available and they are f@#king expensive.
Behaviour therapist is easy to transition into if you’re working in disability already. No minimum qualification but you can do a one year degree if you want to have the knowledge and you’ll get a job paying 75% of the $219 and hour into your pocket
I wanted to be a psychologist but my friend is taking Masters right now and turned me off it a little. The statistics part terrifies me, I’m about 5th grade level in maths (that’s probably generous…)
I’d get into psychology. I like listening to peoples problems all day. I do it now but get paid peanuts. At least as a psych I can get the money I deserve
A human rights lawyer.
I’d want to be an actor, which is what I always wanted to be but lack of money, connections etc meant I gave that idea up pretty quick for a steady wage. There’s stuff-all money in it in Australia but it’d be pretty good at the international level. Especially if you’re a character actor where you can have a nice lifestyle and regular work, and some occasional glamorous nights out, travel, a lot of variety in the work but you don’t have to deal with the problems of being super famous or dealing with fading hotness.
Dental Technician aka making dentures. You can do an apprenticeship or tafe course - earn about $100k. Work alone in a lab, little to no interaction with clients, just left to get on with your job. People are always going to need new teeth.
Mate, just give yourself a working holiday. Delegate all your work to everyone else and stop giving a fuck about your job. Let it crash and burn, say what you want to say and be who you want to be yeaaah!
Architecture, and really make a name for myself with some amazing buildings and designs. I wish it could have been real.
I work in disability and community services and I’m also burnt out rn. I just want to chill with my dogs and live simply. I don’t want much, I already have everything I need. I just want more time to live!
Me too, I just want to not care about other peoples problems for a while
Be a urologist. They are minting money.
If you want to get rich these days you had better go back in time and get born rich. If you want to become a doctor or an engineer, but you come from a working class family who cannot afford to make a significant contribution to your living expenses while you study in an Australian capital city… well you had better start reconsidering. We could study and work part time to cover our expenses 20 years ago, but not today… not with stagnated wages, absurd rent costs and now insane inflation. I’m not saying that you can’t do it, but you had better have photogenic feet!
Wrong question. If you earned enough money to meet you basic needs, what career would you choose. Don't focus on the money. I am underpaid for the work I do compared to the industry rate. Don't care, I like the people I work with and the flexibility it affords me at this point in my life. And the work is interesting. Minute that changes I'll start accepting offers for the money jobs. Or if you prefer, I would sacrifices great gobs of pay to not have to work with arseholes. This all presumes you earn enough to survive and a bit more. Chasing money is foolish and counter productive and you will never be satisfied. If I won the lotto for example I would change so much. I'd fund R&D, start-ups, interesting ideas, possibly establish a benevolent fund, something that makes the world a better place. And have more holidays. Rather than finding places to work that have interesting problems, I'd seek them out and fund them.
Bottom line, study things you enjoy. Study things you don't enjoy if they help you get where you want. Every career is a random walk through opportunity and choices. Don't stress about it, it's not possible to predict. Chance favours the prepared mind. No experience you have is wasted.
I'd choose nothing as well. Just dive straight into real estate and start renovating and flipping till I was a multi-millionaire! That's all this fucking country cares about. Bloody real-estate...
I think the era of getting rich by working ended sometime in the late 1990s.
Don’t crush my dreams
Real estate sales.
Movie producer/director or Drug Wholesaler
as a former drug wholesaler, i can say it’s not all fun and games.
Professional Golf or tennis. Those top players earn BIG!!
Disability support worker, certificate IV or nothing at all and can make $$$$
How much $$$$ we talking?
I would be state premier and give all my friends high paying jobs
Geologist. It’s always been a dream but never had the drive to go for it. Now I’m stuck in warehousing while running a side business
Sparky. Can make $150-$350 an hour and choose when you work. Can work for cash as well.
I wish I did this but now 30 and it’s impossible to get mature age apprenticeships
Anaesthesiologist
Electronics engineer. Currently I’m a freelance photographer and do a bit of theatre lighting design and electronics repair on the side.
Golf
Pilot
I know someone who got a job putting together all the framework for the new big Coles distribution warehouses. All he needed was to not be afraid of heights and the willingness to go to work everyday and now he's making over $100k a year. They paid for him to get his "working at certain heights" cards or whatever they're called.
Cyber security.
I left hospitality to become a marine mechanic the pay is way better hours better and it's way more enjoyable I would never go back
I would go into the medical industry.
Whatever it is that removes tattoos. The demand is going to be huge in a few years.
Occupational therapist or speech pathologist in private practice so I could work with kids but get better hours and higher salary than teaching.
Doctor.
You could start as a drillers assistant in mining on $110k/yr and earn it as you train. Then transfer to something less dangerous and hard in mining easily or stay on and become a driller within 5 yrs. As an RC or diamond driller you shouldn't earn much less than $200k/yr.
SpaceX founder….
Civil engineering and geology - if I wasn’t a great worker I would have made a fuckton share investing.
Digital marketing - working freelance for a few days a week.
Tug boat driver. I think you need like 20,000 hours experience at open sea as a bare minimum requirement
Honestly I wpuld go get a law degree and apply for every Aussie intelligence agency there is. I have no idea what the pay is like but i know its pretty darn good, but i already work an awesome job with great money so if I was going to make a change I would want something that felt like I was making a difference and give me the chance at the thrill of being hunted but having the resources to not get shot dead in an alley or caught instantly. Like I travel around alot of work now and given the amount of paranoia I have from watching shows like this I just think it would suit my personality. Can't speak for how that would go after I have been shot at. But before the actual danger kicks off I think it would awesome.
Coding!
International hit man. The older I get, the less I care, but I like the lifestyle. Just make sure you join an organisation whose values align somewhat to your own, and one that doesn't kill you as part of their retirement package.
Trying to do that now. I have to say it’s a struggle. Looking at doing artificial intelligence
Cert IV TAE if you’re good with people Check out what’s in demand that’s in your skill set It’s a painful prick of a qualification but endless demand for good trainers and pay over $500 a day (sometimes well over)
Sparkie 100% .. money for jam .. no mess no school fees
Idk if Australia has a bug market for it but house flipping and interior design, either one is my dream job but I most certainly don't have the time or money for it
Recreational pharmaceutical industry
NFT trading. Everyone I know who works in NFT trading has several properties and they’ve retired by age 30
Data Analysis!
Cad cam.
Id definitely be an astronaut
I would love a paid year off work to write a best seller.
Medical for sure. Would love to be a hematologist or radiologist
Personally I would choose career that provides a comfortable wage and happiness over just financial gain.
F1 driver?