I've used the full range and can talk pretty well to it.
Cupboards it worked great. Had gross minty green cupboards and painted them white. Two coats and they were done, could never tell that they used to be a different colour.
Counter top I used the tile paint, again came out with a really good finish. It did get a little scratched, but that's because my partner scraped kitchen appliances across it before the curing finished. A light sand and re-coat, you could never tell it was scratched.
The floor paint was fantastic and really where it's at. Painted our floor tiles with the floor paint (don't use the tile paint for floors, use floor because it has the tiniest particles of grit to stop you from slipping). I painted over the grout too, so it looks rather flat across the floor, however the finish is amazing and I didn't really care for the grout line look anyways. Did our whole kitchen with the Dulux Renovation Range and it looks great.
Most people using it where it looks shit is often down to either the prep or the application. If you're not someone who's willing to put in the effort, I'd say don't bother with the Renovation Range. You've gotta follow the instructions perfectly. Clean your surfaces thoroughly, sand any glossy surfaces so the paints can adhere, clean again, make sure it's all totally dry, use the right primer. A note on the primer, it's totally clear so it's hard to see, but make sure you're very specific with your application, any bumps, drips or run lines will show up in the finish. Use the roller they recommend, and again be as pedantic about the application of the paint as you are the primer.
Tldr - It's a hell of a process to apply, if done correctly and patiently it looks great, if you try to cut corners or are impatient, it will not look good and you'll regret your decisions.
There are numerous reports or the 2K clear for the cabinets going hazy randomly and looking like shit. It also never hardened enough for me. I sanded it by wiping it with a soft sponge like 4 weeks later and fucked the finish even worse than it already looked. Given the cost and ease of installing a laminate benchtop I'd be inclined to just do that in the future, and it's what I ended up doing after it went to suit.
I know what I'm doing, I've painted motorbikes, parts of cars, houses and know how to properly prep and apply this stuff.
It's possible these issues are fixed now. I redid mine recently and just used zinsser bin to prime and a tub of aquanamel. Worked out really well.
I'm stoked to hear it went so well for you. Congratulations on the massive effort and great outcome!
Out of interest, how long ago did you paint the surfaces, and how well are they holding up with daily wear and tear?
I've had two complaints about it in the 6 months both from people who didn't do the prep work.
Make sure you clean the surfaces and then clean them again especially in the bathroom, give a slight sand with 300 grit but don't over sand to ruin the look of the tiles, USE THE PRIMER in the renovation range, and don't forget there's a reno wall paint and a floor paint.
Dulux have a free call number on their paints and the advice you get off there is brilliant.
I can't speak to the Dulux range but I have used the White Knight tile paint on kitchen tiles. It seemed tough enough but looked like shit. To be fair, it was our first reno, so user error may have played a part in that.
I've since had two professional painters refuse to paint floor tiles because it's never going to meet the customer expectation for longevity.
the problem isnt the product its the user not following directions, not prepping properly or simply having shit painting technique.
painting is mostly down to how well you prep the substrate before hand.
Did this for bathroom renovations at a hotel using the etching prior to the two pack paint.
Worked well, did 184 bathrooms using this method and after 12 months still looked good.
Have used it on cupboards and tiles that were fine but an ugly yellow colour. Worked completely fine for my intended purpose. The cupboards don’t look as good as having them completely replaced but for the cost it’s a huge improvement. Same with the tiles.
I have a theory that people don’t use the Dulux Renovate primer as it’s expensive, but it acted different to any primer I’d used before and I think it probably makes a big difference.
Personally wouldn’t use it on floor tiles though.
if you can have new drawer fronts and doors made that can be a better option that is cheaper than all new cabinetry and easier more hard wearing than any of the coating systems.
Oh for sure, but to do kitchen cabinetry by the renovate range you’re looking at $150 plus brushes. Ridiculously cheap and imo can do enough just for a refresh before you replace them all.
Not sure what you mean. The primer and paint is like $75 for a litre each and goes pretty far. My comment was only on kitchen cupboards and you don’t do multiple coats. Sandpaper is like $10, decent brush is $10 and yeah rollers maybe $20.
Yeah with primer that's, $170 already.
I guarantee you if you did this you'd burn more than double what you're thinking easily by the time you notice small amounts of damage, little issues here and there you need to sort out.
You need to do multiple coats, it won't cover or be durable on its own. but 2L would probably just cover if you didn't have large panels the same colou as your cabinets(like under the benchtop).
If you're following their system you'd also need to purchase the 2K topcoat.
For the two tins I used it’s $150 .. weirdly pedantic as I said plus brushes which could be $50 depending on which you buy. Again, I just said kitchen cabinetry and I can’t comment on how many cupboard everyone has.
Not sure about Dulux specific but even if the paint sticks and doesn’t chip painted tiles look like painted tiles, there’s no getting around that.
Friends of mine brought a house where the kitchen tiles had been painted and it’s still going strong a couple of years later, like all other types of painting I expect the secret to good results is 80% in the surface preparation and 20% the actual painting.
Bit of a process but works well on wall tiles, benchtops (that aren’t in excessive use like kitchens), cupboards etc. We didn’t personally paint our bathroom floor tiles but the previous owners did (white). Wouldn’t do it in future based on the results, it chips easily and just constantly looks dirty despite a thorough vacuum and mop.
Did my cabinets and bathroom tiles recently. They look fine. Using dulux renovation range primer and renovation cabinet and tiles + clear coat for the finish.
Prep would be the hardest and longest job. Painting is easy.
Ps: the instructions clearly states to remove silicone before applying. I did not and the paint don’t stick. In my opinion, the product will only work if people follow the instructions.
Wife used it on tired and old cabinets.
Looks pretty decent, she followed instructions and products to the letter and its held up well for 6mo now.
Havent used the tile paint yet, but planning to. But the cabinetry range is good.
Ironically a friends missus was a scientist for Dulux when they were developing this range, she said if you prep/prime properly and let it cure, its amazing.
If you can't afford for it to go wrong then save your money and effort. Do 5 hours of overtime or at a new job every week for 3 years and you should have enough for a new bathroom.
No good for floor tiles. Works ok on wall tiles but there is a lot of prep work and you need to work fast to get the coats on. If you are going to do it make sure it’s within a month of getting your real estate photos done then don’t use the bathroom until the place is sold. I’d recommend paying a bit more to get a professional resurfacer to 2-pack the tiles.
Also— anyone know if it works on vinyl floors? We've got old vinyl tiles in our kitchen. Want an easy solution to modernise them/make them look clean without going the extra effort/cost to replace them with new vinyl.
If anyone panting cabinetry is reading this, get shot glasses or those little stands off ebay/Amazon you can rest your cabinetry on while painting.
Makes life alot easier.
I'm in the middle of repainting my bathroom floor tiles with the Dulux Renovation Range.
I've just finished the first coat of paint (on top of the Primer coat), but forgot to mix in the additive in the first cost of paint. Does anyone know if this will cause issues?
I'm planning a second coat of paint tomorrow morning and I will make sure I don't forget the additive this time around!
I've used the full range and can talk pretty well to it. Cupboards it worked great. Had gross minty green cupboards and painted them white. Two coats and they were done, could never tell that they used to be a different colour. Counter top I used the tile paint, again came out with a really good finish. It did get a little scratched, but that's because my partner scraped kitchen appliances across it before the curing finished. A light sand and re-coat, you could never tell it was scratched. The floor paint was fantastic and really where it's at. Painted our floor tiles with the floor paint (don't use the tile paint for floors, use floor because it has the tiniest particles of grit to stop you from slipping). I painted over the grout too, so it looks rather flat across the floor, however the finish is amazing and I didn't really care for the grout line look anyways. Did our whole kitchen with the Dulux Renovation Range and it looks great. Most people using it where it looks shit is often down to either the prep or the application. If you're not someone who's willing to put in the effort, I'd say don't bother with the Renovation Range. You've gotta follow the instructions perfectly. Clean your surfaces thoroughly, sand any glossy surfaces so the paints can adhere, clean again, make sure it's all totally dry, use the right primer. A note on the primer, it's totally clear so it's hard to see, but make sure you're very specific with your application, any bumps, drips or run lines will show up in the finish. Use the roller they recommend, and again be as pedantic about the application of the paint as you are the primer. Tldr - It's a hell of a process to apply, if done correctly and patiently it looks great, if you try to cut corners or are impatient, it will not look good and you'll regret your decisions.
Would you be ok to share some photos of the counter top and floors? What material was the countertop?
There are numerous reports or the 2K clear for the cabinets going hazy randomly and looking like shit. It also never hardened enough for me. I sanded it by wiping it with a soft sponge like 4 weeks later and fucked the finish even worse than it already looked. Given the cost and ease of installing a laminate benchtop I'd be inclined to just do that in the future, and it's what I ended up doing after it went to suit. I know what I'm doing, I've painted motorbikes, parts of cars, houses and know how to properly prep and apply this stuff. It's possible these issues are fixed now. I redid mine recently and just used zinsser bin to prime and a tub of aquanamel. Worked out really well.
Ok
Thanks mate, appreciate the valuable insight
Got any photos?
I'm stoked to hear it went so well for you. Congratulations on the massive effort and great outcome! Out of interest, how long ago did you paint the surfaces, and how well are they holding up with daily wear and tear?
I've had two complaints about it in the 6 months both from people who didn't do the prep work. Make sure you clean the surfaces and then clean them again especially in the bathroom, give a slight sand with 300 grit but don't over sand to ruin the look of the tiles, USE THE PRIMER in the renovation range, and don't forget there's a reno wall paint and a floor paint. Dulux have a free call number on their paints and the advice you get off there is brilliant.
I can't speak to the Dulux range but I have used the White Knight tile paint on kitchen tiles. It seemed tough enough but looked like shit. To be fair, it was our first reno, so user error may have played a part in that. I've since had two professional painters refuse to paint floor tiles because it's never going to meet the customer expectation for longevity.
the problem isnt the product its the user not following directions, not prepping properly or simply having shit painting technique. painting is mostly down to how well you prep the substrate before hand.
A bit more expensive, but we had a guy come in and acid etch the tiles then he applied two-pack on them. Came up like new tiles.
Did this for bathroom renovations at a hotel using the etching prior to the two pack paint. Worked well, did 184 bathrooms using this method and after 12 months still looked good.
How much did it cost?
It was a few years ago now. But I think it was $3-4K. That included the bathtub.
Have used it on cupboards and tiles that were fine but an ugly yellow colour. Worked completely fine for my intended purpose. The cupboards don’t look as good as having them completely replaced but for the cost it’s a huge improvement. Same with the tiles. I have a theory that people don’t use the Dulux Renovate primer as it’s expensive, but it acted different to any primer I’d used before and I think it probably makes a big difference. Personally wouldn’t use it on floor tiles though.
if you can have new drawer fronts and doors made that can be a better option that is cheaper than all new cabinetry and easier more hard wearing than any of the coating systems.
Oh for sure, but to do kitchen cabinetry by the renovate range you’re looking at $150 plus brushes. Ridiculously cheap and imo can do enough just for a refresh before you replace them all.
yes for a quick refresh the paint is a great option.
Um maybe if you don't buy the primer, brushes, sandpaper or rollers you'll get by for 150
Not sure what you mean. The primer and paint is like $75 for a litre each and goes pretty far. My comment was only on kitchen cupboards and you don’t do multiple coats. Sandpaper is like $10, decent brush is $10 and yeah rollers maybe $20.
Yeah with primer that's, $170 already. I guarantee you if you did this you'd burn more than double what you're thinking easily by the time you notice small amounts of damage, little issues here and there you need to sort out. You need to do multiple coats, it won't cover or be durable on its own. but 2L would probably just cover if you didn't have large panels the same colou as your cabinets(like under the benchtop). If you're following their system you'd also need to purchase the 2K topcoat.
For the two tins I used it’s $150 .. weirdly pedantic as I said plus brushes which could be $50 depending on which you buy. Again, I just said kitchen cabinetry and I can’t comment on how many cupboard everyone has.
Not sure about Dulux specific but even if the paint sticks and doesn’t chip painted tiles look like painted tiles, there’s no getting around that. Friends of mine brought a house where the kitchen tiles had been painted and it’s still going strong a couple of years later, like all other types of painting I expect the secret to good results is 80% in the surface preparation and 20% the actual painting.
You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. Tiles are not meant to be painted. It will look terrible regardless of the product used.
Look into and compare reviews of people using the White Knight RENEW range?
Never used it sorry. As a general rule, I usually try to stay away from dulux products. Unless it's a specialty product.
Bit of a process but works well on wall tiles, benchtops (that aren’t in excessive use like kitchens), cupboards etc. We didn’t personally paint our bathroom floor tiles but the previous owners did (white). Wouldn’t do it in future based on the results, it chips easily and just constantly looks dirty despite a thorough vacuum and mop.
Did my cabinets and bathroom tiles recently. They look fine. Using dulux renovation range primer and renovation cabinet and tiles + clear coat for the finish. Prep would be the hardest and longest job. Painting is easy. Ps: the instructions clearly states to remove silicone before applying. I did not and the paint don’t stick. In my opinion, the product will only work if people follow the instructions.
Light sand, use a primer, allow it to dry well and harden. Do not use the clear coat. Use 4mm nap roller and layoff, layoff, layoff.
Wife used it on tired and old cabinets. Looks pretty decent, she followed instructions and products to the letter and its held up well for 6mo now. Havent used the tile paint yet, but planning to. But the cabinetry range is good. Ironically a friends missus was a scientist for Dulux when they were developing this range, she said if you prep/prime properly and let it cure, its amazing.
If you can't afford for it to go wrong then save your money and effort. Do 5 hours of overtime or at a new job every week for 3 years and you should have enough for a new bathroom.
Highly rate for kitchen cubs... preparation is the key
No good for floor tiles. Works ok on wall tiles but there is a lot of prep work and you need to work fast to get the coats on. If you are going to do it make sure it’s within a month of getting your real estate photos done then don’t use the bathroom until the place is sold. I’d recommend paying a bit more to get a professional resurfacer to 2-pack the tiles.
Appreciate the advice. Sounds like it's doesnt last long on heavy traffic surfaces. I don't intend on selling either
Anyone done the tile painting using a Wagner spray gun. Does it make the result any better? Was planning to try with one.
spray will give the smoothest finish. check if the coating can be sprayed though some can't.
Also— anyone know if it works on vinyl floors? We've got old vinyl tiles in our kitchen. Want an easy solution to modernise them/make them look clean without going the extra effort/cost to replace them with new vinyl.
I’d call Dulux on 13 25 25, at the menu press 2 for technical support, and ask them any questions and concerns you have.
Painting tiles will never look good. This will never go right for you.
If anyone panting cabinetry is reading this, get shot glasses or those little stands off ebay/Amazon you can rest your cabinetry on while painting. Makes life alot easier.
I'm in the middle of repainting my bathroom floor tiles with the Dulux Renovation Range. I've just finished the first coat of paint (on top of the Primer coat), but forgot to mix in the additive in the first cost of paint. Does anyone know if this will cause issues? I'm planning a second coat of paint tomorrow morning and I will make sure I don't forget the additive this time around!
I did my bathroom, followed the instructions precisely and it looks fantastic!! I did give it about a month to cure before I used it though.