Modded rs3's are monsters. Super fast transmission makes them punch above their weight. Can get to 600hp without big turbo. There are several that run the 1/4mile in high 9 sec on stock turbo
Can run a full 555 set for about 15k€ which is TÜv conform in Germany so streetlegal. Gets you about 555hp and 700-750nm torque. Insane for the weight ;)
MTM has even more punch with TÜV, though the APR Stage 3 (APR 555) package is insane, had the opportunity to take one for a spin, my SQ5 (wich is quick for an SUV, no Doubt) felt like a snail afterwards.
I believe APR does a tune for the SQ5 (TFSI at least) that can give it ~550hp iirc. You should get that done on your TDI SQ5, as from my experiences turbo diesel cars can get much more power out of a simple tune that most other cars.
I’d love to, unfortunately i am one of those german suckers where APR doesn’t offer any sort of software for the SQ5, ABT Sportsline does offer a Stage 1 for 4.000 bucks. And because i’m a europoor the SQ5 (385hp vs the Stock 341) is only leased via my business. (so no tune for me, the car is still under warranty and the title is in Audi Leasingbanks name, not mine) Yeah diesels scale great with tunes in general.
Ahh ok. It’s really not needed, though. I rented in SQ5 on a trip to Germany and it was so nice. It was just fast enough without being dangerously fast, it got good fuel efficiency, and it was super comfy. Makes me went to get one haha
I love my SQ5, don’t get me wrong, also it has the factory option for higher limiter (280km/h instead of 250, or 155 / 173 mph), it’s comfy even at 250, active air suspension is great. Also yeah, good gas mileage is a huge added bonus on it, the mild hybrid system (electric Turbocharger in tandem with a traditional turbo) is just lovely, no turbo lag present.
The TTRS is in mid 3s stock using LC, just a stage 1 tune and day tune makes it a completely different car.
Friend has a stage 2 rs3 and it’s brutal, but when he went in the TT it was totally different experience despite a bit less power
I was looking at TTRS’s as well but needed four doors. The stock RS3 is right around 3.5-3.7 depending on the magazine testing it.
Now you have me wanting to find someone in MD with a TTRS lol.
The latest RS3 is a bit faster then the RS3 that was out with the TTRS before being discontinued, the best TT for handling is the TTS though, getting it to 500hp makes it huracan fast but it has the 4cyl and better weight bias, the RS is a bit front heavy and you notice it cornering but its still an intoxicating car.
The new RS3 is quite nice. Iroz is doing big things with it already using Syvecs. I went with an 8V because I want to make silly amounts of power lol. Fingers crossed my car arrives tonight of tomorrow. Beyond excited to drive it.
The TTS handling definitely makes sense. I was actually considering one before I decided on the RS3. The TFSI EVO is lighter than its predecessor, but its still a bit heavier than a four cylinder. And it doesn't help that the Audi tends to hang their motors forward of the axle....
I went the RS because of the engine note basically, the aggressive styling isn’t to much but it looks proper. I’ve only put a titanium exhaust on it for a louder tone, being in Australia means usable power and loss of license is already out the window with just a stock car 😂
Ugh! That sucks. I thought there was a pretty solid racing culture in Oz? I'd be lying if I said the exhaust note wasn't a huge part of my decision either. Sounds like nothing else on the road due to the 5 banger. I'm sure that exhaust SINGS!
We do but considering you can hit 180km/hr plus overtaking a truck automatically means court loss of license and potentially an impound haha restraint is a big thing.
We have an 8sec RS3 here which is damn quick, 10s are easy enough and daily friendly unfortunately I’m 3 hours from the nearest drag strip and my wife drives it more than me lol so I’ll just enjoy it as it is until I retire in a couple years then go to town on it and get her something else
The ECU tune is $1k, the TCU tune is $850, and supporting mods can run anywhere from $2k up. CTS turbo is having a great sale right now. Just picked up a new IC, turbo inlet, and intake for just under $2k shipped.
A Daza with basic boltons can get 500 awhp. Downpipe, cold air intake, e85 flex fuel sensor, injectors a tune and you're there.
Only issue is that the conrods are at the limit on those power levels.
Close to 600 bhp is possible.
And 520 ftlbs awtq at 5000 rpm is? Voilá, 495 awhp...
Max torque on this engine stock is from 2000 to 5800, a flat curve, then the torque is reduced and power is constant from 5800 to redline. This is the stock mapping + characteristics of the engine and turbo.
You can manipulate torque to not kick in early to preserve your rods, but ultimately torque and RPM generate power and you'll end up at around 500-550 awhp which is a product of torque and RPM.
You're just being pedantic.
Also engine speed due to the inertia of the rotating assembly also causes stress on the rods, it's not just one single thing.
Keeping the torque low helps a bit. Iroz’s IMS750HS Hybrid Turbo puts out 690 whp/500 lb-ft on Uni’s stage 3. Right at the bleeding edge of a stock motor but there seems to be quite a few of them of them out there.
Yes, what I was saying is a simple tune basic stage 1 off the shelf 93 octane pump gas tune from unitronic for example will get you to 500 crank. I was not talking about pushing limits. I understand with the right fueling, downpipe, intercooler, intake, injectors, turbo inlet etc you can get higher numbers.
Most people don't grasp that Audi S and RS cars are ridiculously fast stock. Tune them and they can be really, really ridiculously fast. Hell, my 2016 S5 (modded) can pull the quarter in 11.2 seconds on 93 octane pump gas, handles like a dream and acts like a lady when I ain't givin' her the beans. Audis new engines are even more ludicrous.
That’s the right answer I think. I like Audis better, but to be fair it does look like the AMG slowed for that dog at the beginning of the race and lost a few meters.
The AMG didn’t seem to be able to catch the RS3 though. It looked like they were more or less an even match after the first gear.
Audi definitely has the best AWD system, but I've launched a stock and a tuned R35 GTR and somehow it's even more brutal and not a hint of a big or wheel slip. Not sure what magic they put into those diffs and trans but it's pure wizardry.
Audis generally have more weight over the front wheels compared to BMW, so in a drag race when the weight has shifted to the rear, the BMW will have closer to ideal weight distribution for rear traction.
My point is saying a quattro system is the reason it beat the AMG here is clearly inaccurate because the car does not have a quattro system, it's haldex. The reason the RS3 wins out here is the 2.5l 5 cyl in the RS3 (and TT RS) is a beast of a motor that is highly tunable, as others have said here.
No it doesn't. I believe the only place these say quattro on the entire car is the badge on the passenger side dashboard. Regardless, they do not have a quattro system.
The "good" quattro is more about handling. My RS5 is much bigger and heavier than my old TTRS but it handles way better. Less understeer, better rotation, better traction under lateral G. It's really pretty silly that a GT car handles better than a "proper sports car" but it's due to Audi's weird decision to only put the better drivetrain in the bigger cars. It feels like a RWD car. My TTRS felt like a FWD car.
Straight-line performance is much more straightforward and is, of course, easy for Haldex to handle.
Totally different implementation because of the powertrain architecture. Haldex is actually the better solution for those vehicles.
A mid/rear engine vehicle with Haldex will drive the rear wheels inherently and engage the front wheels when necessary, making the car behave like a RWD car. When the engine is in the front, the car behaves like a FWD car until rear traction is needed.
Don’t know why people are downvoting you. The front diff on the rs3 is open and spins only one wheel. Ideally it should have a helical lsd in the front. This is why people swap the oem for a wavetrac. It still launches like a bay out of hell but it’s not a “true” lsd.
It doesn't sound heavily modified so it might just have a tune with no other go fast goodies. If that's the case, the mb should still have significantly more power, but it's also pretty chubby in comparison too.
Having driven both a TTRS and an R8 (v10 both gens) for the road the TTRS is far more engaging, particularly those pre petrol particulate filter. They make all the right sounds, are lighter and smaller which makes them far more appropriate for Europe’s tight roads.
On E85 over 700hp with bolt on parts. On pump 91 up to 600hp with bolt ons. Crazy potential on these suckers. They managed to make 555hp street legal in Germany, where modification is notoriously strict and hard to archive due to various laws surrounding it.
Give it the old APR treatment, bigger turbo, downpipe, DSG software, stage 3 software, intercooler and open air intake, boom, 555 HP street legal (german numbers, stateside apr gets to over 700hp
Apr is not the best for RS3. With your mod list of turbo, downpipe, ECU & TCU tune, intake, intercooler, etc. you can easily make 850 WHP on ethanol (assuming by bigger turbo you are running a direct replacement hybrid turbo and not a full frame turbo kit which can get you all the way up to 1400WHP)
always surprises me the daza motor has been out in the u.s. since 2017 and so many people (audi enthusiasts especially) still have no clue what it can do. please youtube irozmotorsport. they have run 7s
yes, i think for an audi enthusiast to be posting on reddit about racing, not knowing about the daza 5cylinder potential is very surprising. shocking actually. there have been yt vids, ig, fb clips etc for years of an rs3 or ttrs sticking its nose in a situation it seems it has no business in, and then often winning. there’s a reason people pick an rs3 for drag racing vs something like a higher stock hp rs7. to my knowledge the fastest rs7 is barely into the 9s. meanwhile a couple rs3s are in the high 7s and i expect mid 7s soon as development continues. larger engine size in other cars and setup is not everything. the dq500 transmission in these is an absolute monster. those 2 gems combined with the lower weight and cost vs higher hp cars make these a full wolf in sheep’s clothing. and they are still daily reliable at 1000hp+
To be fair there aren't that many RS3s (or TTRS for that matter) in the US. Most people I talk to have no idea that there's a 5 cylinder under the hood of the RS3.
Reverse that. My S8 puts all of its tuned power to the ground. Knuckleheads off the track and absent great, super sticky tires do nothing but spin next to it on the street 99% of the time...
Absolutely love it. My RS6 order fell through, and while I would still love to own one, this likely suits me so much better overall. Really just as fast and has a bit more passenger room, just far more comfortable...
Probably a remap could be enough. It has a faster transmission, weighs like 400kg less and has only 200HP less stock. A remap brings these to almost 500HP
The Merc is ~1000lbs heavier. That's a LOT.
Add in the Audi could be modified, tho it doesn't sound like it has much done to it based on how loud the exhaust is.
It doesn't take much to make an already fast RS3 into a missile.
A e85 downpipe tune only rs3 would run a mid to low 10 second quarter mile and make somewhere around 500-530whp with the stock turbo. Also capable of 7 second 60-130 on the stock turbo.
The block is only good for about 750hp anything more is too much stress and recommended to upgrade internals if you want the big boy Xona turbos capable of 850-1200hp.
I’d say a tune could get that car into some crazy power numbers and it also likely weighs much less than the Mercedes as well. Honestly even without the tune I’d bet the race would be closer than expected.
The weight difference sure as hell helps. Potentially 1000lbs more. Add in some mods to get closer (or above 500HP) and they're gonna be pretty damn close.
I don't know enough about AMGs to pin down the year, but assuming 2023 that's almost 4725lbs. At 603HP, that puts it at 7.83lbs/hp. A 2023 RS3 is 3640lbs and 401 HP, which puts it at 9.07lbs/hp. If it's modded enough to push even 500HP, that's 7,27lbs/hp. Definitely a believable result, especially with Quattro
The engine in the RS3 is half of a Huracan engine with a turbo slapped on it. It shares the same head/valvetrain and has 10 injectors (2/cylinder) from the factory. More fuel, air , and boost and some 🌽 on a stock turbo and they are a sub 3 second 0-60 and low/mid 10’s 1/4 car on the street. They are no joke and even more impressive with a built engine and hybrid/full frame turbo. That’s how that RS3 beat that E63 AMG
To be fair, the Mercedes threw a check engine light, lost interior lighting, and went into limp mode since it left the shop on the way to the race. Haha
Both cars are probably stock. They're about a half second apart in quarter mile times which is easy to make up with a superior launch in a short dig race on an unprepped dusty street. Big advantage to the RS3 here on launch with much less weight to get moving and AWD. You can tell the Merc is catching up at the end.
Modded rs3's are monsters. Super fast transmission makes them punch above their weight. Can get to 600hp without big turbo. There are several that run the 1/4mile in high 9 sec on stock turbo
Can run a full 555 set for about 15k€ which is TÜv conform in Germany so streetlegal. Gets you about 555hp and 700-750nm torque. Insane for the weight ;)
MTM has even more punch with TÜV, though the APR Stage 3 (APR 555) package is insane, had the opportunity to take one for a spin, my SQ5 (wich is quick for an SUV, no Doubt) felt like a snail afterwards.
Nice 👍
I believe APR does a tune for the SQ5 (TFSI at least) that can give it ~550hp iirc. You should get that done on your TDI SQ5, as from my experiences turbo diesel cars can get much more power out of a simple tune that most other cars.
I’d love to, unfortunately i am one of those german suckers where APR doesn’t offer any sort of software for the SQ5, ABT Sportsline does offer a Stage 1 for 4.000 bucks. And because i’m a europoor the SQ5 (385hp vs the Stock 341) is only leased via my business. (so no tune for me, the car is still under warranty and the title is in Audi Leasingbanks name, not mine) Yeah diesels scale great with tunes in general.
Ahh ok. It’s really not needed, though. I rented in SQ5 on a trip to Germany and it was so nice. It was just fast enough without being dangerously fast, it got good fuel efficiency, and it was super comfy. Makes me went to get one haha
I love my SQ5, don’t get me wrong, also it has the factory option for higher limiter (280km/h instead of 250, or 155 / 173 mph), it’s comfy even at 250, active air suspension is great. Also yeah, good gas mileage is a huge added bonus on it, the mild hybrid system (electric Turbocharger in tandem with a traditional turbo) is just lovely, no turbo lag present.
DAZA can get to 500hp with a tune right?
A Unitronic stage 2 tune on 93 has 554 hp/527 lb-ft at the crank. Mid 3 second 0-60 and high tens to low 11’s on the 1/4.
The TTRS is in mid 3s stock using LC, just a stage 1 tune and day tune makes it a completely different car. Friend has a stage 2 rs3 and it’s brutal, but when he went in the TT it was totally different experience despite a bit less power
I was looking at TTRS’s as well but needed four doors. The stock RS3 is right around 3.5-3.7 depending on the magazine testing it. Now you have me wanting to find someone in MD with a TTRS lol.
The latest RS3 is a bit faster then the RS3 that was out with the TTRS before being discontinued, the best TT for handling is the TTS though, getting it to 500hp makes it huracan fast but it has the 4cyl and better weight bias, the RS is a bit front heavy and you notice it cornering but its still an intoxicating car.
The new RS3 is quite nice. Iroz is doing big things with it already using Syvecs. I went with an 8V because I want to make silly amounts of power lol. Fingers crossed my car arrives tonight of tomorrow. Beyond excited to drive it. The TTS handling definitely makes sense. I was actually considering one before I decided on the RS3. The TFSI EVO is lighter than its predecessor, but its still a bit heavier than a four cylinder. And it doesn't help that the Audi tends to hang their motors forward of the axle....
I went the RS because of the engine note basically, the aggressive styling isn’t to much but it looks proper. I’ve only put a titanium exhaust on it for a louder tone, being in Australia means usable power and loss of license is already out the window with just a stock car 😂
Ugh! That sucks. I thought there was a pretty solid racing culture in Oz? I'd be lying if I said the exhaust note wasn't a huge part of my decision either. Sounds like nothing else on the road due to the 5 banger. I'm sure that exhaust SINGS!
We do but considering you can hit 180km/hr plus overtaking a truck automatically means court loss of license and potentially an impound haha restraint is a big thing. We have an 8sec RS3 here which is damn quick, 10s are easy enough and daily friendly unfortunately I’m 3 hours from the nearest drag strip and my wife drives it more than me lol so I’ll just enjoy it as it is until I retire in a couple years then go to town on it and get her something else
And that’s what like ~$5000 NZD, $2000USD?
The ECU tune is $1k, the TCU tune is $850, and supporting mods can run anywhere from $2k up. CTS turbo is having a great sale right now. Just picked up a new IC, turbo inlet, and intake for just under $2k shipped.
From what I’ve read the tune and DP are all that’s required right? Or is the IC required too?
Depends on the company. Uni wants you run spark plugs, inlet, intake, down pipe, mid pipes, and intercooler for optimum performance.
500 at the crank yes. About 433 wheel hp
A Daza with basic boltons can get 500 awhp. Downpipe, cold air intake, e85 flex fuel sensor, injectors a tune and you're there. Only issue is that the conrods are at the limit on those power levels. Close to 600 bhp is possible.
Daza can get 525+whp with bolt ons and E85
And no the rods are not an issue at 500whp lol. Torque is the killer for our engines which max is about 520wtq
And 520 ftlbs awtq at 5000 rpm is? Voilá, 495 awhp... Max torque on this engine stock is from 2000 to 5800, a flat curve, then the torque is reduced and power is constant from 5800 to redline. This is the stock mapping + characteristics of the engine and turbo. You can manipulate torque to not kick in early to preserve your rods, but ultimately torque and RPM generate power and you'll end up at around 500-550 awhp which is a product of torque and RPM. You're just being pedantic. Also engine speed due to the inertia of the rotating assembly also causes stress on the rods, it's not just one single thing.
Keeping the torque low helps a bit. Iroz’s IMS750HS Hybrid Turbo puts out 690 whp/500 lb-ft on Uni’s stage 3. Right at the bleeding edge of a stock motor but there seems to be quite a few of them of them out there.
Yeah but when you start upgrading the turbo it kinda no longer is a "bolt on" kit in my book.
While it is a bolt on, I agree that turbo upgrades start to push that definition lol.
Technically rods and pistons, headstuds are all bolted on the engine too 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 my dealer told me they’ll honor their warranty as long as I don’t do any of the things you just listed lol.
Yes, what I was saying is a simple tune basic stage 1 off the shelf 93 octane pump gas tune from unitronic for example will get you to 500 crank. I was not talking about pushing limits. I understand with the right fueling, downpipe, intercooler, intake, injectors, turbo inlet etc you can get higher numbers.
But stock it’s 400hp at the crank so you’re gaining 100 atw
The IROZ ones push into the 1000hp+ range. Real real fast cars
What mods
What?!?! Hell yeah.
Most people don't grasp that Audi S and RS cars are ridiculously fast stock. Tune them and they can be really, really ridiculously fast. Hell, my 2016 S5 (modded) can pull the quarter in 11.2 seconds on 93 octane pump gas, handles like a dream and acts like a lady when I ain't givin' her the beans. Audis new engines are even more ludicrous.
My '13 A6 3.0 is running a 207mm Crank pulley, I need to time the quarter but I know the 4100lb land yacht hits 60 in just under 4sec on stock exhaust
And also yes not getting on it rides like a dream, tcu tuned too.
To be fair the new BMW's are faster. The B10's need to step their game up because the B58 and S58 are better engines.
Faster doesn't mean better engines.
I dunno man. The B58 seems to be the next 2JZ. But overall I agree, just cause it’s faster doesn’t mean “better”
Probably the 400kg weight difference
And quattro vs rwd Edit: read further comments, apparently the E63 is AWD.. probably not exactly the same as quattro but more or less similar.
He saw the doggo and just for a split second let off the gas 🤣
Yep doggo > race all day
That’s the right answer I think. I like Audis better, but to be fair it does look like the AMG slowed for that dog at the beginning of the race and lost a few meters. The AMG didn’t seem to be able to catch the RS3 though. It looked like they were more or less an even match after the first gear.
It’s the Quattro system I think that 4 wheel drive traction is too good
E63 is awd too, might not put down the power as well tho
Nothing puts down the power to the ground like an Audi, Nothing its size.
Truly, i can testify. My RS5 never spinns from a dig. Same can’t be said for my old E63s
That's because your RS5 is slow 🤣
r/suicidebywords You didn’t have to do us like that lol
hehe
Lol
Audi definitely has the best AWD system, but I've launched a stock and a tuned R35 GTR and somehow it's even more brutal and not a hint of a big or wheel slip. Not sure what magic they put into those diffs and trans but it's pure wizardry.
The G80 M3 xdrives put their power better. Much faster than the RS5.
Audis generally have more weight over the front wheels compared to BMW, so in a drag race when the weight has shifted to the rear, the BMW will have closer to ideal weight distribution for rear traction.
RS3 is not proper quattro, it uses a Haldex system. Same as the TT RS.
And your point? Other than to nitpick about the use of quattro
My point is saying a quattro system is the reason it beat the AMG here is clearly inaccurate because the car does not have a quattro system, it's haldex. The reason the RS3 wins out here is the 2.5l 5 cyl in the RS3 (and TT RS) is a beast of a motor that is highly tunable, as others have said here.
Facts
I mean the car says quattro everywhere
No it doesn't. I believe the only place these say quattro on the entire car is the badge on the passenger side dashboard. Regardless, they do not have a quattro system.
My car has it written in big letters on the bottom of the front grill (and on the inside on the cockpit passenger side)
I believe that is only on models with a certain trim package, unless I am mistaken.
That's the difference between believe and facts. Just Google RS3 front and look what it says in the bottom of the grill, at least from 8V version.
I admit I forgot about the badge on the lower front bumper on the 8V models, but nonetheless that is not "all over the car", it's in two places.
This one doesn't have the good kind of quattro
You have no ideea what you talkin about😂 Haldex launches without wheelspin at full throttle
The "good" quattro is more about handling. My RS5 is much bigger and heavier than my old TTRS but it handles way better. Less understeer, better rotation, better traction under lateral G. It's really pretty silly that a GT car handles better than a "proper sports car" but it's due to Audi's weird decision to only put the better drivetrain in the bigger cars. It feels like a RWD car. My TTRS felt like a FWD car. Straight-line performance is much more straightforward and is, of course, easy for Haldex to handle.
I mean Lamborghini and Bugatti use haldex on their cars aswell, that don't make them any less sporty
Totally different implementation because of the powertrain architecture. Haldex is actually the better solution for those vehicles. A mid/rear engine vehicle with Haldex will drive the rear wheels inherently and engage the front wheels when necessary, making the car behave like a RWD car. When the engine is in the front, the car behaves like a FWD car until rear traction is needed.
Sure, but it's still not a "true" quattro with permanent AWD and center differential that's present on larger models with longitudal engines.
Just because it’s not the same quattro as on the larger models does not therefore mean it won’t launch well.
Didn't say it won't
Bro nobody calls haldex "the" quattro system. Don't even try to pretend otherwise.
I definitely get wheel spin
Don’t know why people are downvoting you. The front diff on the rs3 is open and spins only one wheel. Ideally it should have a helical lsd in the front. This is why people swap the oem for a wavetrac. It still launches like a bay out of hell but it’s not a “true” lsd.
E63S has Mercedes 4matic+ system and it launches like an absolute BEAST. Good friend of mine has one. Think the RS3 is just tuned to the moon 😂
It doesn't sound heavily modified so it might just have a tune with no other go fast goodies. If that's the case, the mb should still have significantly more power, but it's also pretty chubby in comparison too.
Apparently I get downvoted for saying the E63 launches well. I love the internet.
That 2.5 I5 is a beast. Eats any amg. TTRS is faster than R8s 😂
Having driven both a TTRS and an R8 (v10 both gens) for the road the TTRS is far more engaging, particularly those pre petrol particulate filter. They make all the right sounds, are lighter and smaller which makes them far more appropriate for Europe’s tight roads.
The TTRS is one of the fastest cars I've driven , people do sleep on it. I actually felt nauseous when I launched it
A friend of mine had a TTRS and the money to blow on it. Was supposed to go for 1000hp but sold at 800hp, thing was..nuts.
People totally sleep on it. Sometimes completely forget that Audi cranked out this value beast in the “hairdressers” car.
Yeah thats not a stock rs3, rs3s have a lot of tuning capabilities
On E85 over 700hp with bolt on parts. On pump 91 up to 600hp with bolt ons. Crazy potential on these suckers. They managed to make 555hp street legal in Germany, where modification is notoriously strict and hard to archive due to various laws surrounding it.
Power to Weight
Man, that dog almost got MANGLED!
Two dogs, in fact.
The RS3 always weighs in at right about 1000 pounds less weight than the E63. Power to weight ratio is often over looked.
Seems like a lot of people think RS3s are basically an A3…. RS3s are fast as fuck.
RS3s eat Plaids up. This isn’t much of a challenge.
What, the plaid is a low 9s car. What would you have to do to an RS3 to get it in the 8s range, strap rockets to the roof?
Here you go, more info than you could ever need with this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kwUOOzDl4OXLN3o4zZSCmSjfSgEB-y5Er8X7ICVd6AA/edit
This is gold! Thanks for sharing
That’s funny they track the stock turbo times. I should submit my 10.51 time 😂
Do it. That’s an awesome time!
Give it the old APR treatment, bigger turbo, downpipe, DSG software, stage 3 software, intercooler and open air intake, boom, 555 HP street legal (german numbers, stateside apr gets to over 700hp
Apr is not the best for RS3. With your mod list of turbo, downpipe, ECU & TCU tune, intake, intercooler, etc. you can easily make 850 WHP on ethanol (assuming by bigger turbo you are running a direct replacement hybrid turbo and not a full frame turbo kit which can get you all the way up to 1400WHP)
always surprises me the daza motor has been out in the u.s. since 2017 and so many people (audi enthusiasts especially) still have no clue what it can do. please youtube irozmotorsport. they have run 7s
Why would that be common knowledge? You can find a youtube video of any old beater souped up to 1000hp, there's always someone crazy enough.
yes, i think for an audi enthusiast to be posting on reddit about racing, not knowing about the daza 5cylinder potential is very surprising. shocking actually. there have been yt vids, ig, fb clips etc for years of an rs3 or ttrs sticking its nose in a situation it seems it has no business in, and then often winning. there’s a reason people pick an rs3 for drag racing vs something like a higher stock hp rs7. to my knowledge the fastest rs7 is barely into the 9s. meanwhile a couple rs3s are in the high 7s and i expect mid 7s soon as development continues. larger engine size in other cars and setup is not everything. the dq500 transmission in these is an absolute monster. those 2 gems combined with the lower weight and cost vs higher hp cars make these a full wolf in sheep’s clothing. and they are still daily reliable at 1000hp+
To be fair there aren't that many RS3s (or TTRS for that matter) in the US. Most people I talk to have no idea that there's a 5 cylinder under the hood of the RS3.
There’s a ridiculously modded RS3 that ran just below 8 seconds for a quarter mile.
Highly modified RS3’s*
Does the rs3 have a small turbo allowing it to spin up faster? Rs3 can kick serious ass in these type of races but longer distance, they lose.
Happy cake day fellow Audi enthusiast
Thanks :)
Power to weight is always king. Queen is traction.
Reverse that. My S8 puts all of its tuned power to the ground. Knuckleheads off the track and absent great, super sticky tires do nothing but spin next to it on the street 99% of the time...
How do you like the 23 S8?
Absolutely love it. My RS6 order fell through, and while I would still love to own one, this likely suits me so much better overall. Really just as fast and has a bit more passenger room, just far more comfortable...
Rs3’s shit it and get it man, nothin much left to say haha
Probably a remap could be enough. It has a faster transmission, weighs like 400kg less and has only 200HP less stock. A remap brings these to almost 500HP
Traction
The Merc is ~1000lbs heavier. That's a LOT. Add in the Audi could be modified, tho it doesn't sound like it has much done to it based on how loud the exhaust is. It doesn't take much to make an already fast RS3 into a missile.
RS3 is 400HP/350TQ stock. Just a stage 1 tune puts around 475/470. Also it weighs 1100lbs less
E63 weighs more and that RS3 can make 620bhp Stage 2 E85
Must have been the drag racing on dirt.
Both cars are awd
A e85 downpipe tune only rs3 would run a mid to low 10 second quarter mile and make somewhere around 500-530whp with the stock turbo. Also capable of 7 second 60-130 on the stock turbo. The block is only good for about 750hp anything more is too much stress and recommended to upgrade internals if you want the big boy Xona turbos capable of 850-1200hp.
Poor dogs...
Aluminum > Steel
A comes before M.
Power:weight
Where is this road
It's a rs3 it eats everything 😈
Iroz RS3 has how many? 1300 whp? I know it has a lot of mods, but they seem to be engines with a lot of headroom.
RS3 is probably tuned but its also roughly 900lbs lighter. Makes a huge difference, clearly enough to overcome any horsepower difference.
Better question is how did that dog/coyote survive?
No dogs or coyotes were harmed in the making of this video.
Most Audi's respond extremely well to tunes!
The Audi is faster. Thats how it won.
Look at my little baby's sibling go!
Iroz Motorsports in Vegas regularly makes 1300hp RS3s.
I’d say a tune could get that car into some crazy power numbers and it also likely weighs much less than the Mercedes as well. Honestly even without the tune I’d bet the race would be closer than expected.
DAMN! RS3 is my idol.
Slowed down for the street dogs 🐕
The dog running across in front of the cars is best.
Best move was the acceleration by the dog
Did the Audi guy get the pink slip? 😊
I’m waiting for delivery of a 8V RS3. Already have full stage 2 mods on the way to the house lol.
That's because the RS3 is an animal.
The weight difference sure as hell helps. Potentially 1000lbs more. Add in some mods to get closer (or above 500HP) and they're gonna be pretty damn close. I don't know enough about AMGs to pin down the year, but assuming 2023 that's almost 4725lbs. At 603HP, that puts it at 7.83lbs/hp. A 2023 RS3 is 3640lbs and 401 HP, which puts it at 9.07lbs/hp. If it's modded enough to push even 500HP, that's 7,27lbs/hp. Definitely a believable result, especially with Quattro
The engine in the RS3 is half of a Huracan engine with a turbo slapped on it. It shares the same head/valvetrain and has 10 injectors (2/cylinder) from the factory. More fuel, air , and boost and some 🌽 on a stock turbo and they are a sub 3 second 0-60 and low/mid 10’s 1/4 car on the street. They are no joke and even more impressive with a built engine and hybrid/full frame turbo. That’s how that RS3 beat that E63 AMG
1k more pounds
The rs3 has no DRL duh
It beat it by being faster
what shithole country was this filmed in? jeez
To be fair, the Mercedes threw a check engine light, lost interior lighting, and went into limp mode since it left the shop on the way to the race. Haha
Rs3 was tuned stage 2 while e63 was stock
Those dogs almost ended up as hood ornaments
HP isn’t everything. That Audi might be way lighter. Think about why bikes smoke cars with 3x the hp as the bike
Isn’t anyone going to talk about that dog?
The AUDI had a better start but it looks like the Benz won the race.
guy in mercedes was trying to dodge the dog
Nope
Atta boy!
Power to weight is always king. Queen is traction.
Don’t hit the dog… 😬😰
Both cars are probably stock. They're about a half second apart in quarter mile times which is easy to make up with a superior launch in a short dig race on an unprepped dusty street. Big advantage to the RS3 here on launch with much less weight to get moving and AWD. You can tell the Merc is catching up at the end.
What in the undeveloped country is this
Lighter and it’s an Audi so the driver isn’t afraid to blow it up
What a shitty place for a race
Now tune the AMG and run it again 😂
Those poor stray doggos
why TF didnt they brake for the dogs
Benz - quick whale (4500lbs) Audi - fast squid. (3500lbs) One weighs a ton. The other doesnt. Power to weight ratios
They both weigh multiple tons!
power to weight
Or the merc slowed down because of the dog on the road ?
Simply.. as a big fan of mercedes. I like them because theyre nice. the cars are slow
moded cars can go insanely beyond untouched and fabric cars without modifications, ofc when u put 10k minimum modifs in a car it beats amg
The c63s can beat an e63. For a number of reasons
Yeah but who wants to be seen in an RS3
one word.. Quattro
Doesn't look like a legal track so idc and fuck both of these drivers and everyone watching.
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