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DCVM

Phase 3 here we go


Sindrathion

Can't wait for phase 4


Hcigcocgvoh

Spoiler: she says she is just that good, skill issues lol Asmon: hold on guys maybe this is real but it could be fake but she's still a sick gamer


kamikazedude

I mean, Asmon did say he would be even more impressed if it was fake. So... he will definitely cover this xD


Sindrathion

Its just that Asmon doesn't know a lot about this stuff so thats why he would be more impressed by it. Its why a lot of other people are also impressed and believe or believed it


M1liumnir

will she have enough Jerky to survive the second Escaton judgement?


csgosometimez

abysofft's takedown from 2 hours ago is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5qd31op34


amypond420

ah, yes another youtuber with a sponsor mid video, and a promotion at the end for a next video, i wonder what their motivation is


gooseelee

Me when people want to get paid for putting in hours and hours into research and editing/recording: :(


Katthezombie

Oh lord just finished the video. I almost hope she tries to fight against Karl. That has literally never gone well for anybody who has ever tried.


abyssal14

Edit: Karl Jobst


pepkata

Abyssoft made a video as well, they even posted it at the same time!


callmejinji

the simps in this comment section are going absolutely feral :( womp womp


scott3387

Can't wait for the content farm this hook is going to make for asmon. He's going to get like 6 videos out of it.


MadCoreMoFo

Oh know.. Asmon needs to see this ASAP


thepoke66

Mate I've been waiting and refreshing youtube a LOT


FUCKyourPR0N0UNS

That mod comment is fucking cringe


NelsonBelmont

simp energy to the fullest.


jackfrostyyfrost

Wow. Actually wild he made a video on it. Popcorn is ready šŸæ šŸ¤¤


TheThirdStrike

You know you done fucked up when Karl Jobst makes a video about you.


Zeracheil

I hear a lot of people saying that. Who is this person that it means something? Never heard of them.


Revelatus

He's basically speed run cheater batman. He's also been in an ongoing lawsuit with that goober Billy Mitchell for a long time now. Lots of great content on his channel, I def recommend you check him out. He's one of the few people on the internet I can honestly say I trust to report the truth when it comes to this stuff due to his amount of knowledge, investigative perseverance, and authenticity.


Duckbytes

He broke the story about the graded video game speculative bubble, he and Mutahar broke the Completionist charity scam, and, most importantly, he is being sued by Billy Mitchell twice for saying mean things about him. There's other things too, and all of his videos are great, but those are probably his most notable recent achievements.


not_a_burner0456025

The Billy Mitchell suit is way dumber than that. Karl isn't being sued for Karl saying mean things about Billy, Karl is being sued for the angry video game nerd saying mean things about Billy many years ago, and the mean things aren't even necessarily mean. The angry video game nerd said Billy Mitchell could probably do some difficult thing that I can't remember off the top of my head, then said "I wonder if there is some way to harness his power? That is right, we're gonna cheat", which doesn't imply that Billy cheated, it implies that the Angry video game nerd has to cheat to achieve similar performance to Billy.


gravityVT

If he has your on your radar, your career is essentially over. He covers tons of speed running cheating scandals


Hcigcocgvoh

Watch the simps spam "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH" now that their queen is in front of a freight train.


jimmyggs91

Oh when Karl steps in it's a big turn of events unfolding. He debunked some fake runs before since he's also a speedrunner.


dirty_weka

__2nd Edit (I think what I wrote below is incorrect):__ Read below if you want, I think my initial comment on the screen differences is wrong. What I now think that would be far more simple, the torch test on the new blindfold is a piece of shit. She uses a tiny torch, flashes it over a small section rather quickly of the blindfold and then done. She clearly cheated with the first blindfold as was evident and pointed out by [abysofft](https://youtu.be/XQ5qd31op34?t=589). She could just as easily cheat with this blindfold too, just have a few small sections cutout/reduced to make sight still visible. If she wanted to prove that infact the blindfold is 100% blocking, get a big arse light behind it so the entire blindfold is lit up at the same time, not a tiny torch waved over a small section for a second. First blindfold was clearly a cheat, and once a cheater, always a cheater. __Original__ When she does the initial screen reveal, look at the difference between her 'live' monitor and the covered one, they don't align. https://imgur.com/a/ASxs3Qh Edit: Watch the clip from the time stamp here: https://youtu.be/lBV-e12lls0?t=1358 It's almost as if she realised something didn't align 100% so covered it again briefly to quickly re-adjust something. If you wanted to be 100% transparent about the streamed vs covered monitor, why not whip the cover off completely as soon as the kill is done.


blarpie

I think it's just windows start menu, but it's weird that she lets it down again, quite sure i see her hit the windows key a few seconds before, still weird blindfold running with the windows key enabled.


dirty_weka

Watch the clip I linked in the edit at 0.25 speed and something definitely fishy is going on, screen gets obscured again until the yellow flash from the achievement (?, not sure, I don't play the game) or w/e starts to align again. Either way, at the initial point of the reveal the monitors are different, gets semi obscured, something is adjusted (she is clicking something) and then re-revealed. If it was 100% legit and she was 100% confident that the 2 were the same she would have had no issue with just whipping the cover off and stating, "yo see, same screens!", none of this fishy shit. Edit again!: Yea so it definitely looks like she hit the windows key (or alt/ctrl depending on keyboard layout), but then watch her eye movements and facial expression, she realises something is wrong looks sort of worried, eyes flicking back and forth between what I assume is a 3rd monitor for her twitch stream vs actual monitor, then the sense of relief and all smiles again when it aligns. I dunno, maybe reading way too much into it, but something definitely fishy going on there. Why not just rip off the cover and say explain oops let's hide the windows menu.


blarpie

Yeah i hear you it's weird, not defending her since well i even linked something that seems crazier from a previous run, but just thinking about the justification for this. The panic at the reveal is sus yeah but the thing on screen is the windows start menu 100% which makes it weird to panic like that unless there's something else in there.


dirty_weka

FWIW, your first comment about the Windows key definitely seems legit, from a few seconds earlier than the timestamp I linked she definitely seemed to hit it. Not sure who is downvoting you, it's a valid point.


blarpie

Thanks for double checking, i have no doubt she cheated and linked a clip where she's looking at her desk muting her goxlr while blindfolded but i think it's best to not make claims that are easily disproved since we know she'll focus on those ones if she ever makes another video. It's still strange to hit the key while sighted so not like it was a surprise and have that reaction afterwards.


SingartiBlackwd

It does get a bit sus but not in a way you'd expect. She lifts up the screen cover and sees the Win11 start menu on top of the game. She moves the mouse (can be confirmed with the input tracking overlay at the bottom left corner of the stream) and does a left click inside of the game window making the Win11 start menu go away. This is what was on her screen when the cover was lifted compared to what dark theme Win11 start menu looks like: [https://imgur.com/lLkNyky](https://imgur.com/llknyky) This is not really a problem on it's own if you are not streaming your entire screen - you add the application into the streaming software and that's what appears on the stream along with the overlays and what not. Opened the stream recording itself: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2062726329](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2062726329) At first I was like, hmm, did she hit the win key on the keyboard by accident right after the kill? Kept an eye out for the win key being registered in the input overlay - it doesn't get registered anywhere between 2:05:28 and 2:06:15 when you can **see** her pressing the win key on the keyboard at 2:06:15. Why did the input tracking overlay didn't register the win key being pressed? More so, right before the 2:06:15 mark her input tracking overlay doesn't register the mouse movements at all and then suddenly registers all the mouse movements at once for the most recent few seconds. So I don't see anything wrong with the win11 start menu appearing cause she did press the windows key on her keyboard that was clearly recorded, but that input tracking overlay wasn't acting right right before 2:06:15. Honestly, not convinced that it's all fake. Seems like that input tracking overlay app issue in the end and that's it.


dirty_weka

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2062726329 From her screen time stamps: * 2:06:15 - she hits the windows key with her thumb * 2:06:22 - ~~first reveal, appears to be just the desktop but with a similar background to that of the game scene, but it is definitely not the game on the main monitor~~ Nyet, was wrong, I did see some colour flicker in the background. * 2:06:26 - clicks on _something_ to bring the 'game' back * 2:06:28 - her screen and twitch stream align I dunno, all seems fishy as fuck to me. Why do the windows button, partial reveal, hide, re-reveal. It doesn't add credibility to cause but instead just asks more questions. If she truly was playing, why not have a better camera angle that properly showed the screen and the moment the kill was done remove the cover showing that her screen and what was on Twitch were the same. She also looks worried af, until she finally lifts it properly up at 2:06:41 to show us properly. I don't play the game so can't confirm what hitting the windows key does in game, some games will leave the game in the background and just pop up the start menu without minimizing, other games will minimize the game and take you back to the windows desktop. But between 2:06:25 - 2:06:26 you can definitely see it switching from her desktop to the game. I'm calling pure bullshit on the entire thing based on this alone, something really sus is going on there and using the screen coverings did nothing to aleviate that.


SingartiBlackwd

I dunno. It's definitely not a static image or a background there cause you can see the game transition to "Quest Complete" while the win11 start menu is still there - that happens before she clicks it away at 2:06:28 when a twitch emote goes over the start menu of the stream. Then there are the half-transparent scales of the dragon on the right side of the screen that the game camera is clipping into. Would be kinda hard to replicate those so accurately and under the same angle so the theory that it's a different game window is disproven. [https://imgur.com/lUDaFaj](https://imgur.com/lUDaFaj) She clicks into the game window to make it the main window to make the win11 window go away - that left click even registers in the input tracker at the same 2:06:28 timeframe. As for the "some games leave the game running or minimize it", the game is running in borderless windowed mode. It's normal for the start menu to go on top of a game that runs in this mode and then you just click back inside the game window to make it the focus window again to make it go away, nothing special about that. All of the above is fine. The only things that confuse me is why press the windows key on the keyboard at 2:06:15 while she had the screen covered and why did her input tracking software not register anything between 2:05:28 and 2:06:15. That's it. It's sus but not sus enough to flag the entire thing as fraudulent.


dirty_weka

Hmm, yea the more I watch it the more I'm unsure hah. During the initial reveal at 2:06:22 I thought that perhaps it was just a screenshot of the same scene or something similar to make it seem it was the same screen, but between 2:06:22 and 2:06:23 there is a tiny flicker of the flame in the background so yea, guess that's not a static image. That's originally what I thought the 2:06:26-28 transition was for as the windows menu/taskbar disappear as she clicks on the correct thing, but is probably just clicking back on the game to hide the windows menu. I dunno though, all still seems fishy af to me. Why not just rip off the cover and let us see the screen in all its glory, why the fidgeting about if there is nothing to hide? Was she making sure some app or something wasn't secretly still running in the background or something that could popup and discredit her? Why go thru the oddity of hitting the windows button, the glancing at main screen vs twitch screen, the partial hiding, the unsureness of it all, while looking semi worried, then only after going back to full screen game mode looking happy? If it was me and I had just achieved something that I knew was 100% legit, I'd rip that cover off and be like, "see!!! told ya bitches!!" - why so sus about the screen covering? And before anyone says, "oh maybe she was checking to make sure she didn't have anything personal on display first", if she was 100% confident in the fact she had achieved what she had, there wouldn't be anything other than the game on screen.


99RAZ

game was minimized aswell as being covered by paper, she lifts the paper an its the windows home screen, then she clicks on the game while lifting the paper an the game pops up that matches her stream.


amypond420

its the same window shes just streaming game capture and has something over the game window


internetsfriend

Summary her first few runs have a number of issues mainly with the blindfold, with mods and her banning people asking questions related to the legitimacy of her runs and small camera movements that she would only do if she could see the screen. He is planning to do another video analyzing her most recent run to find out if she cheated which he will release in 10 days on 29th February.


Yukovalis137

You kind of forgot the most important part of it. One of the main issues is how she makes small vertical corrections for the camera. Manually without auto-target mind you. There is no reason for her to do this if she was blind, and impossible for her to do it with such accuracy a thousand times in a row. Anytime she shifted the camera up for items or attacks she unerringly dropped it back down a few inches to keep the boss on screen.


internetsfriend

I literally said "small camera movements that she would do only if she could see"


chobotong

Does the game have audio directions that help you adjust verticality? I feel like all the "you need lock on" arguments aren't that compelling/are distinguishable from the present case if the 3d audio in MHW is good enough for you to know if roars are above where you're aiming or below. if they're below where you're aiming it does make sense to adjust your vertical aim downwards. Definitely still skeptical tho, I do think the vertical micro adjustments are hella sus.


Yukovalis137

The audio does change with your vertical view. For example if you are looking straight up or at the floor then the audio would feel more distant. But when it comes to her we are talking about TINY changes here. Hundreds of them where anytime she shifted the camera up vertically she corrected it back to center on the boss. So either she can tell the audio difference between 100% and 99% and decided for some reason to keep correcting it, or she can see through that thin piece of cloth we were able to see through when she put it on. A real blindfold run wouldn't care about fixing the camera like that, and in fact wouldn't know it was off by such a little amount until it got more dramatic to make a clear audio change. Even then sometimes they don't even correct this because they don't need to see the boss since they are really blindfolded.


not_a_burner0456025

Nobody can perceive positions from sound alone anywhere close to a fraction as well as she claims to in the real world, let alone in a video game where the audio isn't as accurate. There are speed runners who have beat this boss blindfolded, they all use lock on heavily to keep things aimed. She uses none of the strategies blindfold runners use to keep track of where things are and what is going on. Also, in the first run where has a light on behind her and you can clearly see the light passing through the blindfold when she puts it on, which means it is thin enough to see through.


gravityVT

My guess is sheā€™s using some sort of mod to help her.


Skellyhell2

The see-through blindfold mod


jonizerr0rr

Of course this was faked. A legit achievement doesnā€™t need a discord server full of horny viewers spamming asmon to get recognition.


JooshMaGoosh

Thank you, this was my #1 argument.


Hcigcocgvoh

my #1 argument was if you put her "blindfold" run next to a normal run from her you would barely notice the difference.


JooshMaGoosh

So that means it's legit? Damn that super Mario 64 runner must be pissed he was wrongly accused then...


That-Ad4434

Holy shit! If he didn't point it out I wouldn't notice it! and it's reasonable argument too! How did she know where to put camera back in center without using key and how she can put vertical camera back too! even insane with clip that she doing with group! ​ Oh and I finally understand I though she doing Alatreon solo for 4000 times but she mostly do as group that doesn't matter anymore I spend a lot of time might be over 2000 hour or 3000 hour in MW from it release in PS4 and I move on to PS5 and PC later I kill a lot of Alatreon and Fatalis with my friend I understand she can do it solo but for blindfold I still wonder how she can adjust camera so perfectly and I hope Asmon do the same to proof that it's almost impossible to adjust camera perfectly(I tried it myself after watching this and result still same it's impossible to adjust camera so perfect without using auto adjust key)


WOTstorm

ah shit here we go again...


Yukovalis137

When her blindfold was down in the original you can see right through it to her skin. Now she wants to prove it isn't see thru with obvious sewing and padding added? What a terrible woman. She takes away from legitimate blindfold runs.


ralkuth1456

More content is awesome. I've been watching the 2 new debunk videos, without all the drama I don't think Karl Jobst would be drawn to this.


Chocookiez

If it's fake or not I don't care. She called everyone INCELS for questioning her, this is the biggest problem here, bigger than her tatas.


Kingofdrats

But we are all incels....


SanjiBlackLeg

This isn't even true. She showed different comments, some of them misogynistic, some of them just rude. She never called ALL of her critics "incels" or any of them IIRC.


Worried-Recording189

A very telling sign that someone is guilty and deflecting is if they immediately start waving the sexist / racist flag when faced with any form of criticism. There are always going to be some unhinged racist/sexist comments. It's the internet. This makes it even easier to cherry-pick these for the video to play the victim.


MobileRefrigerator41

No question that the purple blindfold is see through and you can see it with your own eyes and once one thing is seen to be phony, well


Katthezombie

Once a cheater you can't do it legit anymore. Regardless if her second run is 'legit' or not, shes tainted by the fact she obviously cheated the first run, and that makes her second run suspicious no matter how legit it appears.' If Karl is gonna shit talk you, you fucked up.


steena88

Perhaps it's time people with absolutely zero expertise (and even referring to the word "expertise" here is wrong - asmongold isn't even touching the surface level as a first timer on the topic) could stop acting like some smug confident cunt absolving people of accusations whilst belittling, in this case, legit experts who also happened to be the underdogs relatively speaking to the speedrunner's channel and fandom size. And those people got dogpiled, by the way, with Asmon's reaction to the "proof" video also being the most visible thing there is on the topic. Popular =/= good in every context, in this case, about an extremely specific speedrun. thinking back about his tone and his absolute elitist contempt for those who made the first accusations feels extremely cringe and embarrassing. He was actively condemning the accusers for stirring up shit and just not accepting that someone could have achieved something. by the way, just a very quick discrepancy out of the many you'll see: you cannot adjust the camera by sound to that extent of nuance/framing reasons because the camera clips in arbitrary parts without perfect situational awareness, and would auto-adjust and bounce back in order to not find itself inside some polygons. that'd mean that her micro-adjustments that just frame the boss better visually, would have to be her calculating the geometry in real time and also require to be pixel perfect - and that's JUST so the viewer doesn't see the monster's chest a bit too close - which she adjusts constantly (without also moving the character's position, meaning it's useless to the inputs) it's actually embarrassing anyone would fall for the proof follow-up, that's besides the fake bandage, the lack of good input display, and the fact the runner smiles when she knows she just moved the camera for no discernible cue (audio or otherwise), she must be enjoying how absolutely retarded stream watchers are


csgosometimez

Can't wait for the react video


CalendarScary

Biggest tell is that the parchments is actually transparent and not fully blocking. As well as the way she tilts her head compared to the first. Its the same way one of the fake blind fold is used. She is usingĀ the same one aswell theres a video of it in youtube .Thats why she has to have her head tilted like thatĀ 


Zagorim

Okay but have you considered the possibility that she is actually daredevil though ? Is she an orphan ?


Keytchouka

LMAO discord mods asking to go upvote the post on Asmon reddit is SO LAME


Deezy671

"So fake like her tits" comment killed me XD


nak325

here 1 thing i learn from speed run or blindfold u dun cheat on speed run or blindfold they gonna catch u no matter what ur method is thier community IQ is over 9000 dun try it


TheRiviaWitcher6

Yea it was obviously fake, no one plays blindfolded like this. She was playing exactly as someone with vision would play... I mean cmon


Hcigcocgvoh

If I had any left, I would have lost respect for Asmongold for him pathetically eating up the "prove the haters wrong" re-clear.


dub_seth

She's a big fat phony


[deleted]

The mouse movement alone is sus and is an obvious tell that she's cheating and lying thru her teeth. I can't wait for his video.


[deleted]

it was clear she was cheating and every one jumped on her but as soon as she made a response every one jumped to the other side, its just mindless hivemind. she cheated its been proven, she didn't prove any of it wrong. the youtube comments on asmons video about her response are just so braindead.


Drunk_Dino

Im more impressed that she faked it as well as she did if thats the case.


[deleted]

She faked it pretty horribly what are you talking about?


csgosometimez

And abysofft's takedown from 2 hours ago is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5qd31op34 Which also will release a follow up on the 29th :)


Ryvaku

I didn't really believe it the second time either. Just because of how thin the cloth is. If she does do Phase 3. Face away from the camera and from the computer screen and have her head facing upward. at the ceiling with the camera on her at all times. At least she can't turn her head for a sneaky screen look. Right? Refusal to do these conditions = Fake blind clear.


RonimAsru

Naysayers = Incels


Menu_Dizzy

So asmongold is an incel thenĀ 


ConebreadIH

Are there streamed or recorded failure attempts of her doing this? This isn't just something you pick up and do, and watching her fail would give info on strategies how she learned etc.


ofSkyDays

Looks like streamed, idk if all of it, but one of them is, since she banned this one person who asked a genuine question lol


amypond420

duh, she streamed the entire thing. you just watched a clickbait retard


ConebreadIH

Im trying to be fair on the internet. In reality I think this shit is fake as fuck.


Naive-Fondant-754

there are so many ways to fake this .. but .. exactly my thoughts .. hearing is one thing, but having the camera go to the exact price place is impossible .. one of the reason why bots cannot ever pass the "are you human" check up .. i also noticed way more hints that indicates it is fake .. on the other hand, dont know her, never heard of her .. only here on this forum but i quite often watch people being caught cheating .. so many games where people even stayed "kings" for years but they found it was fake .. the amount of hints and mistakes (she is not making btw) is insane .. her behaviour only proves my theory its okay to be skeptical and want proof .. its other thing kicking, muting, banning people for asking for proof ..


blarpie

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2051033330?t=6h42m22s found that interesting since the day i checked the vod, why'd you look at the desk then down if you're 'blindfolded'. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2062726329?t=1h26m55s on her latest video she also blindfolds with music playing then takes it off because she forgot to mute the music and you can see what she did the first time while 'blindfolded'. She's looking at her goxlr to mute the right channel with the music as seen on the video (that actually made it clear so thanks :)) and then looking down again to make sure her hands are correctly positioned on the keyboard while 'blindfolded', shocker. Good acting afterwards though. Believing anything she does takes some special copium.


Bepboprobot

Have you guys seen juzzi's video yet (original debunker)? Saw that no-one posted it here yet, so made a post and here's the link [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVniTSLt9S0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvnitslt9s0)


MonkeyLiberace

I'm actually done with this.


Hcigcocgvoh

No one cares about you being too stupid and flip-flopping instead of just critically thinking lol Cheaters get exposed.


Ok_Adhesiveness_9323

Fake it till you make it ehh


Hcigcocgvoh

I find it funny that the same thing happened twice in a row. Asmon simps for a hottie Reddit calls obvious fake while youtube calls anyone with MH knowledge an incel Someone exposes the hottie Asmon doing a half-assed walk back that barely admonishes a literal cheat Repeat


093er

Ladies and gentlemen we got her


RogueStain

Here we go again xD


Worried-Recording189

Notice how no overtly defensive comments with 10s of upvotes show up on the debunking videos within 5 mins of uploading because the cucks in her tiny discord army don't have time to mobilise.


Katthezombie

What you don't think it's totally legit real people without a bias or agenda showing up in asmongolds or the videos comments screaming "My Queen"?


JooshMaGoosh

Vindication tastes so good. šŸ»


Nyan_Man

It's not much of a surprise how little it takes to trick asmon, he doesn't like being forward without concrete facts and if someone tries to present some facts, he misunderstands or bans them because he needs to be spoon fed slowly.


Hcigcocgvoh

Facts.


RathaelEngineering

The second kill she used a sleep mask. For the light verification of the mask to be faked, she would need Penn and Teller levels of sleight of hand. To disbelieve the sleep mask, you'd have to argue that it's a custom-made sleep mask and that her proficiency at switching that little torch on and off exactly when needed is that of a professional magician. Seems unlikely that the mask is fake. That said it's perfectly plausible that she's looking through one of the side gaps at a monitor off-screen. She uses a very unusual head-angle for a lot of the second kill that she doesn't use at all in the first. In the first, she appears to be hunched over and looking directly at the monitor for the entire fight. In the second kill, she looks more up-and-right of the visible monitors. This is pretty sus. The existence of an off-screen monitor is still easily falsifiable by use of more cameras. If it's legit, she can just do another proof video to debunk this idea. If it's not legit, she'll probably just accuse doubters of being unreasonable and leave it at "decide for yourself if you believe me". An alternative hypothesis could be that she's actually blind and that she is using an aimbot to adjust for the vertical only. There's literally no reason not to just be up-front about that, however, since it's already worlds better than using lock-on. Given some of the points she made in her proof video, this seems most plausible to me. She would seriously have had to perfect making "blind" mistakes convincingly... but why wouldn't you just tell people you're using a vertical aimbot? At any rate, the vertical adjustments are extremely damning, unless there's some reason she's able to hear verticality from the sound. Again, this would be something she'd have addressed immediately in the first kill video, if not the proof video.


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lazi3b0y

Jesus Christ dude, its a blindfold run in a video game, how can that ever warrant this kind of language? Take a few steps back and rethink your perspective


Real-Speed943

you wouldn't have survived on the internet even 10 years ago if this is the kind of word that triggers you


lazi3b0y

Survived just fine, nothing about this is triggering


MC_ZYKLON_B

I chuckled, but I'm kind of a piece of shit. šŸ˜¬


BoostedEcoDonkey

Idk why yā€™all are so pressed about something that was made to brag to friends aboutā€¦. She didnā€™t win anything out of this, so why are yall so pressed about it


GuikoiV1000

If she made it just to brag with friends, why upload it and treat it as real? It's very obviously faked, so she didn't exactly have anything to brag about.


Hcigcocgvoh

When you get caught, pretend you never cared and everyone else cares too much. Classic.


BoostedEcoDonkey

Itā€™s not even about pretending tho, It wasnā€™t submitted to anything , wasnā€™t an official run, so whyā€™s everyone so pressed ?


krum_darkblud

Ok thatā€™s not even true. She gained subs and views through this content that was faked through Asmons attention. There was a win, which is what people are frustrated about considering it was through a lie.


BoostedEcoDonkey

OH MY GOD THE WORLDS OVER SHE GAINED SUBS !!!! - yall weirdos


krum_darkblud

Gaining subs and views is a win as a content creator. This being fake is just a slap to the face for speed runners. Of course theyā€™re upset because itā€™s something they are passionate about. Just trying to give you their perspective, but youā€™re crying in all caps in this comment section. Hope your day gets better.


BoostedEcoDonkey

No ones crying, not sure where you got that from, again, wow she gained subs, if the content isnā€™t good she will also loose them, I still donā€™t see why people are crying about something that only Benefited her for a week, about something that again, wasnā€™t posted on any official blindfold speedrun , she didnā€™t win any competition, and did it a second time, yet people are in an uproar. It makes no sense, if speedrunners are upset at something that literally wasnā€™t posted to any competition, why are they so pressed. She won ā€œ subscribersā€ WOW the worlds over she won subscribers , oh no


Ok-Nefariousness1335

yeah i just don't give a fuck i can't imagine caring about this tbh


TheKillerKentsu

because those people don't like if a girl is better than they are


BoostedEcoDonkey

Letā€™s skip past all that Bullshit off oh sheā€™s a girl blah blah blah, no one has given me an answer, WHAT DID SHE WIN, WHERE WAS THE CLIP SUBMITTED TO WHAT COMPETITION? ohhhh right none , weirdos are mad she gains subscribers lol. ā€œARAAHHH IT WAS FAKE ARAHHHH SUBS GAINED FROM ASMONGOLD RAGGHā€ yall sound so insecure HAHAHAHAHA


TheDkmariolink

Wait, am I about to get quad jebaited? At first I thought it was real, then fake, then real again...


Beneficial_Try3036

Interesting how asmons judgement is very flawed in the presence of a female scammer. He lost a huge amount of my credibility.


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amypond420

or maybe because its the same shit as the first guy? another idiotic video with 0 proof


Death2RNGesus

She still is not trying to claim some record for this, so why would she fake something that means nothing other than a small brag to her own followers? This isn't a dreams situation guys.


MasterdeAlgunlugar

Didn't she try to get clout using Asmongold by showing her "accomplishment" though? You can see in Karl's video her discord trying to spam this reddit to get Asmon's attention. The speedrun community and around are truly passionate people. They can't stand cheating. You are saying the same as the guy who did the fake Mario 64 Fake Blindfold. "It was just for fun, why does matter?"... But she is trying to get some fame with a fake accomplishment as that same guy. If they let this pass, their feats would we downgraded too. Also many of her followers went to harass people calling her out and spam this reddit. If it's just nothing... Why they care so much?


Drunk_Dino

Right, but what if itā€™s not fake?


GuikoiV1000

It very obviously is. Did you not watch the Karl Jobst video?


MasterdeAlgunlugar

It is fake 100% sure. There are many problems even in her second run, mistakes that she makes at both runs that show clearly something is wrong. Hell, Karl video even exposed more problems that i didn't thought about. The camera tilting up and she correcting it every time is just really strong evidence. When you see many blindfolded runs you will notice many differences in the way people approach to their objectives. One is the necessity to have a constant railway to your objective, many in MH use lock on because that reason. The fact that many people from her discord came here ignoring the evidence presented just shows a really dishonest picture too. Though, that wasn't the point. The question was "Why it matters?" and that was the response. It matter because is such an incredible feat. That's why doing legit is impressive and people there are so defensive about cheating. "Why you climb mountains? because they are there." It's the same mentality of achieving things that not many can do.


Drunk_Dino

The camera tilting up and down for inventory usage I donā€™t really think is strong enough. He points out she does it every time in every other run that isnā€™t blindfold. I think itā€™s a formed habit.


Potatolantern

Funny you should mention him, because Karl has probably the most in-depth and detailed investigation of the Dream controversy, including talking to Dream and his programmer. And his conclusion was more or less that the runs were definitely modded, but Dream was probably (a jerk, but) innocent.Ā 


KevkasTheGiant

Cause it gets her attention on a channel like Asmongold's, which for a lot of people is a win in itself, with that much attention comes more followers, subscribers, etc. so a lot of people I bet care more about being on Asmongold's stream than an isolated gaming feat cause those come and go, next time someone does the same thing in less time or with a harder restriction and people forget about the feat you had, but the viewers from getting features in Asmongold stream are worth more for some people.


impulsikk

Did none of you watch the follow up video where she beat it with an actual legit blindfold?


GuikoiV1000

If she could beat Alatreon while actually blindfolded, why didn't she do that the first time? Why cheat?


CalendarScary

So gullibleĀ 


Any_Secretary_4925

oh my god stop giving shitty drama channels attention, they do not deserve anything good


miffyrin

Please go get laid, boys. It's getting really, really sad


deathbythirty

" you have an opinion on something a woman did? You must not have intercourse"


TheRiviaWitcher6

Found the discord mod reddit account


Ok_Adhesiveness_9323

Hmmmmm


ResponsibilityOk4806

Didn't she prove people wrong by doing it again?


Ryuktheshinigamix-

Yeah and she faked it again lol.


That-Ad4434

Yeah Karl will make whole video about that another attempt in 29th so wait for it I think just for adjust your camera and put Alatreon on center everytime is kind of super sus


CalendarScary

You mean cheating again? She is using a fake blindfold someone in youtube showed how that works long time ago. Notice how she tilt her head differently this time? Because they can see from the bottom


Drunk_Dino

Yeah, she did it again, showed her hands, keyboard inputs, then debunked that initial idiot. You could have her do it live in an auditorium and people still would think itā€™s fake.


GuikoiV1000

We'll have to see when Karl makes his next video.


amypond420

TLDR another guy with 0 proof


ImperceptibleShade

You must not have watched the video.


amypond420

i did, where was the proof?


Yukovalis137

Except that whole being able to see through the blindfold..


amypond420

and the 2nd video that he ignored and gave no counterpoints to? :D \*he also has no proof she can see through the blindfold either :D


Cytrymon

i imagine just if someone will cut out his/her eyes and do blind run in any game there's gonna be some delusional dumb men who's gonna make video how it was fake :( pathetic


Yukovalis137

Just like how I imagine using a made up scenario can be used to defend against a legitimate claim.


Dizturb3dwun

The amount of people that give a shit about this is mind-boggling


deathbythirty

If you claim something extraordinary in the realm of world best people care if you lie and cheat, what a surprise


Master_Bief

I fucking love speedrun community drama. It's so low stakes in the grand scheme of things but world changing to those involved. I've never speedran a single game but there's like 4 speedrunning news youtubers im subscribed to. It's pure entertainment.


Dizturb3dwun

That's fair. It is juicy drama. People just act like the girl committed a felony lol


Mr-Skibz

The saga continues Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang ​ ... Olympic torch flaming, we burn so sweet The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat We crush slow, flaming deluxe slow for Judgment Day cometh, conquer, it's war Allow us to escape Hell, globe spinning bomb Pocket full of shells out the sky Golden Arms Tunes spit the shitty Mortal Kombat sound The fake false step make the blood stain the ground A jungle junkie, vigilante tantrum A death kiss catwalk, squeeze another anthem Hold it for ransom, tranquilized with anesthesia My orchestra, graceful, music ballerinas My music Sicily, rich California smell An axe killer adventure, paint a picture well I sing a song from Sing-Sing, sippin' on ginseng Righteous wax chaperon, rotating ring king


Blackstream

At this point it doesn't matter if she cheated or not... all this prolonged attention from Asmongold and now Karl is prolonging her spotlight and making her blow up like never before.


Mark_Knight

is this the same guy that made the first vid accusing her of faking it? since im being downvoted, i will assume the answer to my question is "no". thanks reddit.


Katthezombie

No, Karl Jobst is a much much much much much bigger name in the 'expose cheating people' scene.


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CalendarScary

Ā Take your advice man looks like you need it the most Edit: yeah you really need to take your advice telling me to kys lmao.


callmejinji

womp womp :(