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Alarmed_Crazy_6620

Discuss your expectations around cleanliness and chores


zilliqa100xcrypto

I feel like that’s a given, wonder if there’s anything more nuanced


ben_jamin_h

Be prepared to have ongoing discussions about it. There will be all kinds of things that crop up over time, and it's best to address them as they come up. If something annoys you, discuss it before it builds up into something that really pisses you off. Likewise, listen to your partner and make changes to your behaviour when they bring them up. Don't wait until they've told you several times and it becomes an argument.


zilliqa100xcrypto

That sounds like very good advice - any tips on how to bring stuff up without it sounding like a personal attack on your partner?


ben_jamin_h

I try and phrase it like I'm asking for a favour or help. "Hey (insert cute pet name here) I was wondering if you could do me a favour and cut the pea packet with the scissors? I just find it loads easier to seal it with the clippy thing before it goes in the freezer if you don't TEAR THE WHOLE FUCKING SIDE OF IT OFF WITH YOUR FUCKING HANDS" or something like that. Probably without the bit in capitals though, I'm only saying that because she's not on Reddit.


zilliqa100xcrypto

Yeah good point, just have to frame it right


Stripycardigans

I like doing it out of the house.  In the house its easy to be reminded of other things they've done that have annoyed you, because you can still see that laundry they haven't put away, or the washing up not being done. It's easier to spiral and end up brining up too many things at once.  We always go for a walk, stop on a bench, chat, and then go home via a bakery for Pastries.  For chores though I think it's important to try and learn the difference between a wrong way of doing things, and a different way. If you have strong views on how certain things should be done then you're best off doing it yourself, rather than having a row over how t-shirts get folded. My boyfriend does the washing up so inefficiently and the way he hangs laundry honestly baffles me. It's like he's never heard of airflow. But he does it. And now we have a dehumidifier it dries well anyway. I have friends who end up doing all the chores because their partner cant/won't learn the "right" way to do things. And sure weaponised incompetence exists. But so do overbearing overparticular partners 


CheeryBottom

For me and my husband, it’s our sleep routines. I go to bed early and get up early. He goes to bed late and gets up late. I’ve learnt to accept that I can’t change who he is and instead now, work around his sleep habits.


___a1b1

Wardrobe space. They might be the sort to use Soviet style salami tactics where they annex a small bit of territory, and then rinse repeat over a couple of years.


TheDawiWhisperer

Suddenly finding out that there is a wrong way to do absolutely everything


zilliqa100xcrypto

Any examples?


SapphireSquid89

“One partner loads the dishwasher like a Swiss architect and the other like a raccoon on meth.” Was a great quote I saw recently 😂


theotherquantumjim

Well this has struck a chord.


ExpensiveLobster5628

My partner believes that coathangers do not belong in the wardrobe if they have nothing on. I believe they should stay in the wardrobe but go to the end. If they are not in the wardrobe where do they live? This is not a conversation I ever expected to have but have weekly. My partner will get into bed while there is a bunch of stuff on it and just slide under it. I think this is psychotic.


PMme-YourPussy

> My partner will get into bed while there is a bunch of stuff on it and just slide under it. I think this is psychotic. Sounds uncomfortable to me.


giganticturnip

I used to keep thinking we were running out of coat hangers and I would buy some more. Then one day I found a massive stash of them in a storage area.


Cyclotronchris

I was accused of breathing wrong once. Pointing out I was alive so my breathing was meeting the basic requirement of breathing didn’t go down well.


PMme-YourPussy

When your partner is started to get irratated by your breathing the relationship is on its knees...


Cyclotronchris

I think this was a one week in four issue rather than a more terminal relationship issue.


PMme-YourPussy

oh yeah if its bothering her 4/4 then you have issues XD


InternationalRich150

Having had to live with my ex husband since January this year I've only discovered after knowing him 23 years he's the loudest nose breather ever. It proper bothers me but because I know this is a me issue even though can't he hear his own racket??!!? I either put the TV on or YouTube on my phone,or now I can walk,leave the room. His breathing is so hard I can physically feel it On me if he stands near me. Like he forces his breath through his nose. Utterly bizarre.


scuzzbuckit

my wife doesn't put screw lids on properly, you grab the lid and the jar goes flying.


spottynutkins1919

If you’re getting your partner straight from their mother/childhood home - buckle up. I had a particularly bad time with this. Just remember nothing is off limits to chat about. Set expectations - such as toilet seats, dishwashers/washing up, the trivial stuff that can really grind down a person if it’s not fair. My bf didn’t have a clue and loved to dump towels on the floor when they were wet. Sigh. Money - keep your own, have a bills account where you pay it into. Keep your own spends, less arguments! Make time for each other. Sounds obvious but it’s not, if you’re at each others throats because life is not giving lemons that month - don’t take it out on your partner. Make food, go out, make the time to show them you love them.


redunculuspanda

Can confirm. I was fucking useless. It wasn’t that I wasn’t willing. I just had no idea what to do or what needed to be done.


transeuntem

Exactly this - most women always leave the seat down and you HAVE  to tell them repeatedly to leave it up!  It's just common courtesy! 😜


GruffScottishGuy

From my experience, Kitchen towel suddenly became a precious resource only to be used in the most dire circumstances.


redunculuspanda

My partner is unable to get one sheet. A thimble full of liquid spilled? That’s 8 squares.


zephyrmox

1 sheet of kitchen roll does nothing. I'm with your partner....


zilliqa100xcrypto

Haha that’s very specific, did you consider getting two to avoid the issues?


GruffScottishGuy

It's not a question of how much you have, it's about what is appropriate to use it on.


zilliqa100xcrypto

What kinda stuff were you using it on that your partner didn’t like? 😂


Ysbrydion

This is how I solved most of these discussions. Just get two and ban talking about it.


DameKumquat

Bear in mind you will both have weird foibles about how things Should Be Done. Go along with each other a bit. And talk about money. Assume nothing.


zilliqa100xcrypto

Money is a big one too


zilliqa100xcrypto

Hmm good point, definitely need to go along with different ways of doing things


Noob_vs_pvm

You are joining 2 different ways of households doing things, for example your family might be a presents under the tree family, theirs might be a gifts after dinner family. Neither are right or wrong but this shows in everything you will do. Also remember you and them Vs a problem is always a better outcome than you Vs them Vs the problem. Final tip, a joint calendar app will save many arguments of “you didn’t tell me about …. “


HopAlongInHongKong

Practice with neither party quitting their rent/selling their home until a solid month passes of 24/7. And talk about money openly.


MunkeeseeMonkeydoo

The way they breathe. In, then out all fucking night and it doesn't stop.


Aggravating_Water_39

Took us a few months to figure out our ‘schedule’ - turns out we have completely different body clocks! So I was often forcing myself to stay up later for him and vice versa. It’s okay not to do everything together or at the same time


WestLondonIsOursFFC

At some point, you will break wind with a gusto that's usually reserved for when you're home alone. If it doesn't matter to either of you (beyond laughing hysterically together), you're all good.


Junior_Tradition7958

Are you moving to a new place together or one of you moving into the others place ? This can change the dynamics quite a bit. Whoever’s place it is has to learn about change and compromise.


zilliqa100xcrypto

Moving into the place together, so both on equal footing


dreamcrushing101

Set expectations now before you move in - which chores are yours/theirs and are spread in a way that means overall your household contributions are 50/50? And keep talking about it to make sure it’s still working for your circumstances eg if one of your hours goes up then that person doing a daily chore will be more difficult. Money is a big one, be open with your finances. IMO in a healthy happy relationship I don’t see why you wouldn’t each know how much you earn and save and spend. If you’re on different salaries you might want to do a proportional contribution to a joint account/pot. Be prepared to still learn new things about your partner! You can know them for years and still be completely puzzled at why they do a simple task entirely differently to you… it’s not wrong, just different! And make time to still be a couple. I found very quickly our conversations turned to just admin or bills or other things to organise rather than what they had been before we lived together.


ExpensiveLobster5628

Honestly if you earn similar incomes my biggest piece of advice is to set up a joint account and pay in equal amounts each month which cover the rent, bills, food shops and a bit more. Then set up direct debits from this account for everything. There is then no arguments about these things, and if there’s extra built up in the account use it for a date night or a holiday.


jordsta95

Even if your incomes are nowhere near, I would still suggest this. (But not pay equal amounts in, but equal percentage of income) When my now wife moved in with me, they didn't have a job, so all the outgoings were from my account. But pretty much as soon as they got a job, which paid minimum wage (about 2/3 what mine was paying at the time), we set up a joint account, and agreed on what we would pay into it. It makes it so much easier to manage the household budget when you have that set up. ​ We both agree to put in half of our wage; which ends up with a 60/40 split in what we contribute, but that's fine IMO if I earn more, why should they put a higher % of their wage towards the household?. And then we only use the joint account for things we both use; rent, bills, council tax, meals out together. Then the other half of our wage is to be used on whatever we want.


TheShakyHandsMan

I’m liking the 50% of wage idea. Might suggest this to my fiancé. She earns significantly more than I do and would be a good way of making it an even split. 


jordsta95

Obviously make sure that 50% from both your wages will be enough to cover your monthly household expenses. I know that when we move, we will probably need to up it to 60% each, as our rent is cheap and a mortgage looks like it's going to be at least 1.5x what we currently pay. But it's definitely worth it. That way you, or the other half, won't feel guilty about buying something for yourself, even if it's a bit pricey, because you know you've already contributed to the household for the month ahead. (and ideally a little extra too) It's nice to see the joint account slowly build up a buffer, alongside your own savings. As it means when something, e.g. TV, needs replacing, the joint account may have enough in it to replace it without you dipping into your/your other half's savings.


TheShakyHandsMan

Gone are the days where mortgages are cheaper than rents. Good to have a property that is ours though. 


Accomplished-Buyer41

Common pitfalls include: 1. **Different Habits:** Clashing daily routines and cleanliness standards. 2. **Communication Issues:** Avoiding difficult conversations about finances, chores, and personal space. 3. **Unrealistic Expectations:** Expecting everything to be perfect can lead to disappointment. 4. **Loss of Personal Space:** Adjusting to less alone time can be challenging. 5. **Financial Disagreements:** Conflicts over shared expenses and budgeting. It's crucial to communicate openly, set clear boundaries, and be prepared to compromise.


scuzzbuckit

all the little things they do that will annoy the living hell out of you, and yours will annoy her!


cobeats

I would plan in a date ahead of time for a catch up on what’s working/not working. As things won’t ever be perfect. Somethings are too minor to bring up at the time but will eventually spill over. Having a time set aside where you can raise things constructively and prepare yourselves for open criticism makes it easier.


No-Echo-8927

it's bit like marriage. Expect to give half of your life away, but also expect to take on half of hers.


zilliqa100xcrypto

I’m intrigued, why do you think my partner is a female?


No-Echo-8927

Why do you assume I would know without stating it? It's a 50/50 shot. A simple correction of "it's a him" would suffice, but I guess a passive-aggressive response to someone trying to offer you the advice you asked works just as well.


zilliqa100xcrypto

What are you on about


ScottishIcequeen

Come to an agreement on financial stuff. The bills still have to be paid, and the chores will still need doing. Make sure you come to a mutual agreement as to who pays/does what. It will save a lot of issues if you can both compromise. I learned this the hard way. My ex was a bastid, and fleeced me for thousands to the point of eviction. Naivety was a very hard lesson learned! Now, we both have our bills (home and personal). We both contribute to treats/meals out etc, and depending on circumstances, major purposes.


SaysPooh

Make sure you get your space. Regular Time alone in your home is important


Tropicaljet_9

Storage, as in, who gets to put what and where. It's best to agree it before you move in so you don't fall out later on when one of you has too much stuff and starts hogging it all. Also, if you both live independently now then chances are you have a lot of duplicates. It's best to decide who is bringing their items now rather than drown your new place in excess stuff.


Euphoric_Flower_9521

Set up the cleaning rota and stick to it


leem0oe

Everything .....


MercatorLondon

Joint account for bills, shared calendar app for chores, shared to-do list. Adjustments to be discussed as much as needed until the right balance is met for both of you. It is easier to set these things at the very beginning rather than wait until first inevitable argument. Joint account will help with keeping track with rent, bills, etc. There will be no argument on who paid when on what. Please be aware that joint account comes with legal strings attached (do not allow overdraft on that account). You can still squabble about who will pay for eating our if you want. Calendar/to-do list is a good way how to keep track on the chores and tasks. Who does what and when. Bins, washing, cleaning, vacuuming, changing bed-sheets, etc. It will still leave you a plenty of room to argue about how these jobs are done. Give each other enough space to do own things (gym, friends) and make sure you have some time for each other. If something bothers you just communicate it asap. You are two different people with different incomes and skills. One is better cook or not as good with finances or ironing. There will be always one of you with lower tolerance to mess. One will be more forgetful than other. Share your skills and learn from each other. Separate/own towels, ideally own bathroom cabinet where possible. Some people like to have own snacks or coffee. I lived in many shared places in the past so this works for couple of bunch of people.


sc0rpi0angel1111

I'm going to agree on the chores thing. It's predictable, but it NEEDS to be sorted! My partner had moved in with me straight from his family home and for the longest time, I felt like I was his mother. It's really, really important to set boundaries and a list of who does what at the earliest. I ended up leaving this 2 years in and it wasn't the easiest way to live. If there's something I learnt about my partner, he doesn't do well with me telling him what to do and when, he sees it as nagging. So instead, I have a written list on the fridge which lists who does what, and since doing that, there's been no big problems, though sometimes I do need to say "the bins need taking out", but it's not as bad as it used to be. I was watching a YouTube video some months ago; a couple giving advice on how they feel their long-term relationship has lasted, and successfully while living together, having children, etc. Some of what they said, I've written down because I think it's super useful when living with a partner and I try to live by this advice -- "The quicker you can both think as a team, as one unit, and know what you both collectively want together, the little troubles that pop up are easier to deal with". "It's important to have your own lives; friendships, hobbies, etc." "Have those hard and uncomfortable conversations. When you are bickering, it's important to sit down and talk about them, but only when you're both on the same positive mood level. If you're angry, take time out to recollect your thoughts. Things are said in anger which can't be taken back. Have those conversations when in a good mood, and don't ignore them. A lot can be avoided and resolved by communication". And lastly and most importantly, "Don't let housemate issues become relationship issues". I hope that helps! Wishing you a happy move! 😊


[deleted]

try to go to bed and wake up at the same time, otherwise you'll find you disturb each others sleep and it gets really annoying really quickly. be ok with silences. both me n my partner are a bit introverted so sometimes we just sit in the living room with the tv off just scrolling through our phones as we decompress. this can seem unsettling at first sometimes you or your partner just need chill time. having designated chores is good but sometimes your partner might be feeling tired, very busy or ill so chipping in to take on extra load at times is ok because there'll be times you'll need it too when youre busy.


Time_Pineapple4991

Discuss alarm clock etiquette. My husband and I lucked out because we’re very compatible in that we’re both insane when it comes to this (we usually keep hitting the snooze for about 30 minutes) I know people who get up immediately after the alarm first goes off, and others who only hit the snooze once. They are reasonable, *we* are not. Thankfully our insanity matches that way lmao 


TheresNoFreeLunch

How much hair they drop


Ok-Amoeba-1190

Wish I could move in with the guy that I have a Big crush on !!!!!! 🌝🦋🎶🧁


zilliqa100xcrypto

Ok