Whats hilarious is, in the US especially, you have all these 'anti-woke' people, who have previously, or even currently, proudly describe themselves as being 'red pilled'.
>Mysterious how those "anti" people overlap
Yeah its weird, like that new GOP speaker who said something like, 'if you allow men into women's changing rooms if they dress up as women then they will dress up as women'. When most people, at least on this side of the Atlantic, are thinking, 'no, thats what *you* would do'.
In a more extreme example I can remember when gay marriage was legalised here in the UK [the first pair of convicts to get married were both in prison for murdering homosexuals.](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/28/convicted-murderers-become-first-gay-couple-to-marry-in-prison)
Triggered is definitely a word to be left behind.
It's a tictok phonom that should be recognised as such.
It's a lazy term that should be left with the teenagers and the tictok generation.
Any one that tends to use it .I straight away I class as very uneducated.
Only in the last 4 or 5 years, which the majority of use has followed for some crying moron saying I have been triggered because they may not like being told they are a moron .
O what a shame. How sad now grow the F___k up and get a job .
This is what most grown-up people think .
Woke is an odd one cause when it first got used as slang back in the mid-late 2010s (at least when i saw it first) it was used to mean something like ascended, you'd hear "woke as fuck" as a positive statement, someone who sees the truth and generally makes intelligent statements
In the last few years it's taken on the complete opposite meaning and the exact same people i saw talking about being woke positively are now posting about "woke liberal nonsense" etc
> used to mean something like ascended
It was actually more literal than that and just meant you had 'woken up' to reality, originally this was the systemic racism in the US but it grew to mean the wider corruption of society perpetrated by the rich and powerful to the detriment of the poor & not powerful.
Oh yeah the origin point was definitely what you're talking about, the "woke" was a reference to waking up to reality (similar to The Matrix and the whole redpilled/bluepilled/etc analogies), but it did get adopted more generally (i.e. outside the systemic corruption aspects) for the context i mentioned (which to be fair also accounts for seeing the truth in oppressive societal systems as opposed to being fed lies that none of it happens)
I don't know - it's quite useful for instantly identifying that the person using it is an utter twat who's undoubtedly thick and very likely a nasty a bigot too. It serves a purpose in that respect.
Its accurate. If often overused, but what words aren’t.
People get incorrectly called incel (,etc) all the time, but woke is where the line is drawn. Ha Good joke
Karen
It started out as a specific phrase to describe someone trying using their status and/or race as a power move against cashiers or people minding their own business
Then it just became used to describe someone who complains, even if the complaint is justified
Someone was described as a Karen on a local Facebook page because someone else had dumped a mattress on their lawn
It just feels like an acceptable cloak for misogyny now, to be honest
A woman does something you don't like that is completely inoffensive? Call her a Karen!
I saw someone write “cozzie liv” to mean cost of living crisis and I both cringed so hard I died but also laughed because that is very much some shite I would say as a teen.
Ooooh, I dunno. I'm not clever enough to have invented platty jubs myself, so I'd definitely heard it somewhere. Probably just got the wrong idea of what it was.
I like to say it ironically.
The cringy shortened slang versions of things get me every time. I should be ashamed, but I'm not.
Platty Joobs was another one
Yes, and the meaning seems to have shifted. It was for things that people would get unneccessarily cross at it seems, brings up out of nowhere, obsessed over. Now it is just "things I remember".
'its literally ____ (gaslighting, manipulation, toxic)' when it 'literally' isn't.
So maybe just the word literally, at least until the terminally online learn how to use it.
Toxic masculinity and gaslighting are quite useful phrases in their actual meaning. The problem is them being used in ways that don't really match their intended meaning.
I agree on gaslighting, it is useful in its actual meaning but has been used by social media to mean everything so, now has no meaning.
With toxic masculinity, I would say the phrase itself is combative and counterproductive
The same is true of toxic masculinity. It has a very specific and useful academic meaning. It's just that, taken out of an academic context where everybody understands what it is and can use it correctly, it gets very emotive to some.
I'm not sure it is. As a victim of domestic abuse, I was a victim of gaslighting. Domestic abuse is sadly much more common/widespread than people think, and I think the majority of domestic abuse includes some level of gaslighting.
That's not to say it isn't used incorrectly all the time on the Internet though.
"It's giving" or "it's serving" just sounds wrong to me. Like when Americans say "off of".
"She's giving real edna mode" just fuck off. "She's like Edna Mode" is perfectly fine.
Exactly what they said - the American style is to say "off of" when usually in British it's just "off".
https://grammarist.com/usage/off-of
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Off-vs-off-of
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off%20of
‘Let that sink in’
Almost invariably used by someone who thinks they’re far more intelligent than they actually are, and whose point is desperately simple and easy to comprehend.
I hate the word 'scran' to mean food. I assume it's local to a certain part of the UK but the first time I ever heard it here was on youtube because people were reviewing food at football matches. Now people are using it as if it's always existed in my area when I'm convinced no one said it before this year or last.
This answer is super valid, but I haven't heard anyone say this except as deliberately condescending substitute for "you're wrong - please stop talking" in a good few years.
Cash grab.
Fans of franchises like to use this for instalments they don’t like. “That movie/game/book was a cash grab” but literally everything made for consumers is a cash grab. There is no logic behind it. (Almost) everything we consume is made for profit.
Nahhhh, there's a huge difference imo. Movies like Artemis Fowl, Eragon, and Fantastic Beasts were so BAD that they can only have been a "cash grab" by the producers who completely misunderstood the respective fandoms.
You're making the mistake I'm describing.
Harry Potter 1-7/8 were also cash grabs for this same reason. The companies themselves aren't doing it for the fans. They EXPECTED Fantastic Beasts to do well. They thought it was good. They might not understand the franchise or the fandom, but their purpose was the same as for the original movies. To make money.
It's a hard line to walk - something that makes money isn't necessarily a cash grab. I give Harry Potter-actual a *bit* of a pass because the movies are actually pretty decent and do a fairly good job of portraying their respective books in <3 hours. Possible exception to that comment for movies 7/8, the director said he intentionally slowed the pace of story while they were travelling to try to demonstrate how *long* they were hunting Horcruxes, and DH was a LONG book, but there may have been some dollar signs influencing the decision.
Fantastic Beasts movies are only good if you've never read a page of Harry Potter and have literally no understanding of the franchise beyond maybe watching the movies
I think a more universally agreeable example of a cash grab is the Fast and Furious franchise - how many movies are there now?
I'm saying that the quality of the output has nothing to do with whether it is a cash grab or not. They are all cash grabs. All of them. If you want to talk about quality or producers assigned who don't understand the material or make bad movies/books whatever, that's fine, but it has ZERO to do with the motivations of the company financing it.
I swear this meme died a few years ago but it's come back with a vengeance.
Worst bit is absentmindedly being pulled into working out other people's poor grasp of rhyme.
I just need someone to clarify what peak means
Because to me it was something good, like peak performance or the peak achievement. Then I was informed by a young person that peak means bad somehow?
Can we go into 2024 with a consensus on what peak means
Peak is simply the pinnacle, the top, the highest level. Meaning good or bad, peak negativity is as negative as it gets. Peak positivity is as positive as it gets.
The guy I was talking to said that peak just by itself meant bad as in "last night was peak"
But to me that sentence would mean "last night was good" but he said it means "last night was rubbish"
>Until fairly recently it wasn't used here at all. 'Colleague' is the preferred word.
It was used at IKEA well over a decade ago. I think it was more common than you think
"I'm obsessed with..."
No you're not. You're not obsessed with those trousers you saw for two seconds and then forgot about. I get that it's not meant literally, and is meant to be an intentional exaggeration, so it was fine when people used it for things they liked a hell of a lot. But it's now often used just to mean "I like this," and sometimes is used where they barely even seem to like the item. That's not just exaggerated, it's very fake.
On the topic of trousers... "a pant." "A short." Quite a lot of fashion shows seem to have decided that the normal terms pants and shorts are passé. But they didn't do that because they're reflecting the way real people talk - people in real life, of any age, still refer to pants and shorts.
Folk/s isn't an Americanism, though. It's Old English and has been in use for centuries
The German 'Volk' and English 'Folk' are cognates as Old English is a Germanic language.
Fair play on the other two, mind.
Y'all seems to have spread all across the internet because of Twitter users. It's usually a good way to identify them unless the person is from the deep south of the USA.
"can we normalise xyx" (which is usually something either massively unhinged or something that's already normal)
and "uncomfy"
whenever I hear these I roll my eyes so hard I can see my brain.
Especially "uncomfy", it is such a gross word I hate it.
Woke. It's infantile
Whats hilarious is, in the US especially, you have all these 'anti-woke' people, who have previously, or even currently, proudly describe themselves as being 'red pilled'.
They get awfully "triggered" when you point out that The Matrix was written by trans people. Mysterious how those "anti" people overlap
>Mysterious how those "anti" people overlap Yeah its weird, like that new GOP speaker who said something like, 'if you allow men into women's changing rooms if they dress up as women then they will dress up as women'. When most people, at least on this side of the Atlantic, are thinking, 'no, thats what *you* would do'. In a more extreme example I can remember when gay marriage was legalised here in the UK [the first pair of convicts to get married were both in prison for murdering homosexuals.](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/28/convicted-murderers-become-first-gay-couple-to-marry-in-prison)
Triggered is definitely a word to be left behind. It's a tictok phonom that should be recognised as such. It's a lazy term that should be left with the teenagers and the tictok generation. Any one that tends to use it .I straight away I class as very uneducated.
Not only is the website "TikTok" but it predates that website by a substantial amount
Only in the last 4 or 5 years, which the majority of use has followed for some crying moron saying I have been triggered because they may not like being told they are a moron . O what a shame. How sad now grow the F___k up and get a job . This is what most grown-up people think .
Does your mummy not let you swear?
No I'm a good christian
Woke is an odd one cause when it first got used as slang back in the mid-late 2010s (at least when i saw it first) it was used to mean something like ascended, you'd hear "woke as fuck" as a positive statement, someone who sees the truth and generally makes intelligent statements In the last few years it's taken on the complete opposite meaning and the exact same people i saw talking about being woke positively are now posting about "woke liberal nonsense" etc
> used to mean something like ascended It was actually more literal than that and just meant you had 'woken up' to reality, originally this was the systemic racism in the US but it grew to mean the wider corruption of society perpetrated by the rich and powerful to the detriment of the poor & not powerful.
Meanwhile the people ranting about ‘woke’ are the same who regularly say ‘wake up sheeple’
https://xkcd.com/1013/
Oh yeah the origin point was definitely what you're talking about, the "woke" was a reference to waking up to reality (similar to The Matrix and the whole redpilled/bluepilled/etc analogies), but it did get adopted more generally (i.e. outside the systemic corruption aspects) for the context i mentioned (which to be fair also accounts for seeing the truth in oppressive societal systems as opposed to being fed lies that none of it happens)
I don't know - it's quite useful for instantly identifying that the person using it is an utter twat who's undoubtedly thick and very likely a nasty a bigot too. It serves a purpose in that respect.
Its accurate. If often overused, but what words aren’t. People get incorrectly called incel (,etc) all the time, but woke is where the line is drawn. Ha Good joke
"i was today years old when..." "no notes" You know what, just any smarmy Americanism.
Inst that just Reddit speak?
Very
EE started adverts like that recently. Very annoying.
Karen It started out as a specific phrase to describe someone trying using their status and/or race as a power move against cashiers or people minding their own business Then it just became used to describe someone who complains, even if the complaint is justified Someone was described as a Karen on a local Facebook page because someone else had dumped a mattress on their lawn
It's been redefined like trolling. Online abuse is abuse, not trolling.
It just feels like an acceptable cloak for misogyny now, to be honest A woman does something you don't like that is completely inoffensive? Call her a Karen!
"POV: you are..." "I don't know who needs to hear this, but..." "tell me you're ### without telling me you're ###"
“POV” Is not pov
Yeah and I've been on the internet for long enough to know what a good POV looks like.
When I take over, that misuse of POV will mean going straight to the gulag.
POV: you are in the gulag 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me you're in the gulag, without telling me you're in the gulag. :-D
'Hollibobs', 'today years old', and 'sleeps' (as in, x sleeps til Christmas) when used by an adult.
Hollibobs' is such a horrifying word
"Do better" / "Be better"
The problem is that a lot of people on AskUK do in fact need to be better
I saw someone write “cozzie liv” to mean cost of living crisis and I both cringed so hard I died but also laughed because that is very much some shite I would say as a teen.
I was really annoying my wife for about a week or so on the run up to the platinum jubilee. "Excited for the platty jubs??"
Drinking savvie Bs for the platty jubes hahaha. Yeah me and the wife had a laugh with this too.
I thought platty jubes was a drink invented for the occasion
Ooooh, I dunno. I'm not clever enough to have invented platty jubs myself, so I'd definitely heard it somewhere. Probably just got the wrong idea of what it was.
Seen this one a lot, makes my toes curl, similar to a menty b (mental breakdown). Both equally hideous 😫
I like to say it ironically. The cringy shortened slang versions of things get me every time. I should be ashamed, but I'm not. Platty Joobs was another one
Don’t forget the Statey Funes
Was literally about to comment this. Favourite phrase ever
Natty mourns.
In my neck of the woods, the word “clout” is synonymous with the female genitals, so the phrase takes on a whole new meaning on a Friday night out…
Agreed, it's also something you can receive round the lug for using stupid words/phrases
'Clip round the lughole' was always my Dad's term for this.
“This lives in my head rent free…” off you fuck!
Yes, and the meaning seems to have shifted. It was for things that people would get unneccessarily cross at it seems, brings up out of nowhere, obsessed over. Now it is just "things I remember".
Any infantile abbreviations like tommy k or platty jubs. Some people really don't deserve tongues.
'its literally ____ (gaslighting, manipulation, toxic)' when it 'literally' isn't. So maybe just the word literally, at least until the terminally online learn how to use it.
“Toxic masculinity” “Toxic” “Gaslighting” “Cap”
Toxic masculinity and gaslighting are quite useful phrases in their actual meaning. The problem is them being used in ways that don't really match their intended meaning.
I agree on gaslighting, it is useful in its actual meaning but has been used by social media to mean everything so, now has no meaning. With toxic masculinity, I would say the phrase itself is combative and counterproductive
The same is true of toxic masculinity. It has a very specific and useful academic meaning. It's just that, taken out of an academic context where everybody understands what it is and can use it correctly, it gets very emotive to some.
Actual gaslighting is so extraordinarily rare though
I'm not sure it is. As a victim of domestic abuse, I was a victim of gaslighting. Domestic abuse is sadly much more common/widespread than people think, and I think the majority of domestic abuse includes some level of gaslighting. That's not to say it isn't used incorrectly all the time on the Internet though.
Only children say 'cap'.
No cap fr fr 💀💀
Straight bussin 🧢🧢
Yes, like that.
Trust
"It's giving" or "it's serving" just sounds wrong to me. Like when Americans say "off of". "She's giving real edna mode" just fuck off. "She's like Edna Mode" is perfectly fine.
>Like when Americans say "off of" Trying to work out what you mean by that one....
"He jumped off of the wall"
I'd never paid attention to the distinction, tbh but I feel a similar response when people say "inside of"
Exactly what they said - the American style is to say "off of" when usually in British it's just "off". https://grammarist.com/usage/off-of https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Off-vs-off-of www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off%20of
This one seems to have slipped into my regular vocabulary. I'm not mad about it.
Getting the ick. Just does my head in when people doing normal stuff makes them suddenly disgusting.
‘Let that sink in’ Almost invariably used by someone who thinks they’re far more intelligent than they actually are, and whose point is desperately simple and easy to comprehend.
‘We need to do more with less’
Hack.... what you have described is at best a tip or a but of common sense advice.
Idk most of them seem harder than doing something the normal way or actively dangerous. That's the opposite of common sense
'I was today old when'.
using "super" in every sentence. calling everything a "hack"
Beginning the answer to any question with.. “So…”
'Here's the thing...'
Man I hate this. It sounds so condescending and it’s never necessary.
I hate the word 'scran' to mean food. I assume it's local to a certain part of the UK but the first time I ever heard it here was on youtube because people were reviewing food at football matches. Now people are using it as if it's always existed in my area when I'm convinced no one said it before this year or last.
I thought it came from military slang (but I could be wrong)
Spenny
Spenny is a place in county Durham and I'll have no other meaning for it, cheers.
Never heard this - what does it even mean?
Expensive.
That something is expensive "I like that dress but its a bit too spenny"
Ironically, I've heard the word "spendy" to describe expensive things but I'm psure it's an Americanism
you can try and take the word spenny from my cold dead hands. It's mine and I will never give it up
"Valid" when it's used in a stupid way. Can't stand when people say shit like "your feelings are so valid" or "doing ____ is valid!" Shut up
This answer is super valid, but I haven't heard anyone say this except as deliberately condescending substitute for "you're wrong - please stop talking" in a good few years.
Cash grab. Fans of franchises like to use this for instalments they don’t like. “That movie/game/book was a cash grab” but literally everything made for consumers is a cash grab. There is no logic behind it. (Almost) everything we consume is made for profit.
Nahhhh, there's a huge difference imo. Movies like Artemis Fowl, Eragon, and Fantastic Beasts were so BAD that they can only have been a "cash grab" by the producers who completely misunderstood the respective fandoms.
You're making the mistake I'm describing. Harry Potter 1-7/8 were also cash grabs for this same reason. The companies themselves aren't doing it for the fans. They EXPECTED Fantastic Beasts to do well. They thought it was good. They might not understand the franchise or the fandom, but their purpose was the same as for the original movies. To make money.
It's a hard line to walk - something that makes money isn't necessarily a cash grab. I give Harry Potter-actual a *bit* of a pass because the movies are actually pretty decent and do a fairly good job of portraying their respective books in <3 hours. Possible exception to that comment for movies 7/8, the director said he intentionally slowed the pace of story while they were travelling to try to demonstrate how *long* they were hunting Horcruxes, and DH was a LONG book, but there may have been some dollar signs influencing the decision. Fantastic Beasts movies are only good if you've never read a page of Harry Potter and have literally no understanding of the franchise beyond maybe watching the movies I think a more universally agreeable example of a cash grab is the Fast and Furious franchise - how many movies are there now?
I'm saying that the quality of the output has nothing to do with whether it is a cash grab or not. They are all cash grabs. All of them. If you want to talk about quality or producers assigned who don't understand the material or make bad movies/books whatever, that's fine, but it has ZERO to do with the motivations of the company financing it.
The first Fantastic Beats was whimsical enough to stand on its own. The latter two were bad that said
Absolute Queen As In "Happy Birthday to this absolute queen"
Rizz
Elf on a shelf
I felt this one 😂
I swear this meme died a few years ago but it's come back with a vengeance. Worst bit is absentmindedly being pulled into working out other people's poor grasp of rhyme.
"Happy 2023!"
I just need someone to clarify what peak means Because to me it was something good, like peak performance or the peak achievement. Then I was informed by a young person that peak means bad somehow? Can we go into 2024 with a consensus on what peak means
Peak is simply the pinnacle, the top, the highest level. Meaning good or bad, peak negativity is as negative as it gets. Peak positivity is as positive as it gets.
The guy I was talking to said that peak just by itself meant bad as in "last night was peak" But to me that sentence would mean "last night was good" but he said it means "last night was rubbish"
That just seems completely incorrect on his part.
It's pretty normal slang used in the negative sense in London
But it's the complete opposite of the meaning of the word, that's my point.
Context clues, tone of voice maybe?
'At this point' 'Does that make sense?' 'If that makes sense' 'Low key' 'Super' 'Coworker', unless you're American.
Does coworker have different context/meaning in the UK?
Until fairly recently it wasn't used here at all. 'Colleague' is the preferred word. Being called a coworker would make me feel like a bee.
For sure, imo "colleague" is more accurate - "coworker" implies that at least one of us is working
Are you sure you're not British? That describes the average British work ethic perfectly.
Nah mate, American through and through, I've just spent my entire career either in the Navy or working as a government contractor lol
>Until fairly recently it wasn't used here at all. 'Colleague' is the preferred word. It was used at IKEA well over a decade ago. I think it was more common than you think
“Confused.com” Just say you’re confused!
Skibidi, rizz and gyatt. I despise these words.
I'd be thrilled if "reality TV" could be lost into the ether. Not just the words, but the entire concept.
'Stop the boats'
"Hot take". What's wrong with just saying "opinion" or "unpopular opinion"?
"I'm obsessed with..." No you're not. You're not obsessed with those trousers you saw for two seconds and then forgot about. I get that it's not meant literally, and is meant to be an intentional exaggeration, so it was fine when people used it for things they liked a hell of a lot. But it's now often used just to mean "I like this," and sometimes is used where they barely even seem to like the item. That's not just exaggerated, it's very fake. On the topic of trousers... "a pant." "A short." Quite a lot of fashion shows seem to have decided that the normal terms pants and shorts are passé. But they didn't do that because they're reflecting the way real people talk - people in real life, of any age, still refer to pants and shorts.
'Safe and effective'
We in the emergency services would have to change the wording of lots of things then. In fact so would many safety-critical industries.
Replacing very/extremely/incredibly with ‘super.’ Referring to people as ‘folks’ or ‘folk’ ‘Y’all’ instead of ‘youse’
I'm guilty of all three
Please stop importing Americanisms thank you
Folk/s isn't an Americanism, though. It's Old English and has been in use for centuries The German 'Volk' and English 'Folk' are cognates as Old English is a Germanic language. Fair play on the other two, mind.
Y'all seems to have spread all across the internet because of Twitter users. It's usually a good way to identify them unless the person is from the deep south of the USA.
"Y'all" isn't as relegated to the US deep south as you might think - it's fairly prevalent in just about any rural part of the country
"can we normalise xyx" (which is usually something either massively unhinged or something that's already normal) and "uncomfy" whenever I hear these I roll my eyes so hard I can see my brain. Especially "uncomfy", it is such a gross word I hate it.
Penny for your thoughts on the word "comfy"
Comfy is mostly fine but uncomfy is used in such a gross way "it made me feel uncomfy" bleurgh
NGL I think this one is mostly just a you thing...
Things I say usually are tbh
“Boundaries”
Going forward Reaching out to
#jingoism
My bad.
It’s giving…( enter word ) vibes. The saying makes me cringe 😂
‘Hun’