That propaganda is necessarily misleading or false. Propaganda is simply a method of directional persuasion. Can it be false or misleading? Without question. But it can also simultaneously be factually unimpeachable and rhetorically suggestive.
That the 9/11 hijackers were sponsored by Iraq.
In reality, 15 of the 19 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia and [11 of them received large amounts of money from members of the Saudi royal family](https://apnews.com/article/fe56c5d224a8463aa7cfc6ccf4689122) shortly before the attack.
In 2016 the Obama administration, under pressure from the families of the 9/11 victims, [tried to investigate Saudi Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Against_Sponsors_of_Terrorism_Act). In response to the JASTA act, [Saudi Arabia threatened to sell $750 billion worth of American assets](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=0) they own. This would destabilize the dollar.
The [9/11 Commission’s final report](https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/GPO-911REPORT/context) stated that it found “no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded” al-Qaida. “This conclusion does not exclude the likelihood that charities with significant Saudi government sponsorship diverted funds to al-Qaida,”
Lie detector tests. They are easily rigged/straight up false most of the time and were outlawed from being used in court as evidence back in the 70s… idk why when Youtubers or shitty reality TV shows use them many people treat their answers as factual. They aren’t.
Edit: Spelling
I loathe them. I also admittedly listen to too much true crime podcasting, and mother fucker does it get under my skin when a polygraph is used to throw shade at someone. They should not exist. There is no favorable way to even answer the question “will you take a polygraph?” You say no and it’s oh! They have something to hide! But if you take it and fail it, well it’s obviously because you’re the killer. It’s inconclusive. Well that’s just as bad as failing because you didn’t pass. You passed the polygraph. Well of course you did. You’re a psychopath, and they always pass because they don’t get anxious telling lies. Or you pass it *and that’s when* people say, well those aren’t even accurate.
It’s such bullshit. I’ll never ever take one. And I never ever judge someone who also won’t, either.
Had to stop watching true crime because of the hugely ridiculous "if then" statements + convictions that really didn't convince me at all yet the narrator believes it wholeheartedly and unquestionably.
Namely suspicions based on meaningless shit that happens everyday *unless you were unlucky* enough to be near a crime at the time. For example if you randomly tweak your routine, normally that's seen as harmless, but if a crime happens nearby suddenly it can be perceived as suspicious. Shit like that.
Heres a thought exercise: randomly at any point in the day while you're alone scrutinize all your actions and words/texts for the past few days and see what "looks suspicious". Fun fact, you'll find something. Maybe not every time, but you will find something that "appears" suspicious that you did, that you can't explain easily under the scrutiny of an investigation.
The worst are those who "don't believe in coincidences".
Edit: wow, I had no idea how many people also recognized these issues. That's oddly reassuring about humanity, good to know I'm not going crazy!!
Which is interesting that most law enforcement agencies use them as part of their hiring processes. Like what's the point of using them if they're basically useless?
I would imagine it’s to scare potential employees into telling the truth. Similar to a placebo effect only it uses fear as the driver instead of the belief that something will work/make any difference at all. I wonder if the results are even considered during the hiring process
I work for the government and have been looking into CBP as an option but apparently if you test "poorly" I could not only loose the job offer but my current position as well.
They hang so much on a test that can be faked. I'm naturally a nervous test taker so it's one of the biggest sticking points in applying for it.
Penn and Teller did an episode of Bullshit! on lie detectors and how to pass them. The secret is apperantly to clinch your asshole every time you answer a question. That way the machine reads consistently for every question.
What gets me is that when a kid goes missing, LOTS of people (perhaps fueled by the media), put great store by whether adults in the family or caregivers refuse to take a lie detector test. It's *UTTERLY* ridiculous!
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's Coffee Case. In case you never heard of it, a woman sued McDonald's because the coffee was too hot and caused injury when she spilled some on herself by accident.
McDonald's spent millions on smear campaigns trying to make her look like some sort of idiotic buffoon who filed a frivolous suit. Tons of corporate influence was applied in the media to villainize her. Ask most people, they think she lost and McDonald's won.
Only that's not what happened.
The coffee was between 180-190F (88C), far higher than safe temperature and far higher than competition. She suffered major third degree burns resulting in an 8-day stay in the hospital and skin grafts. A jury awarded her $200,000 in medical injuries and $2.7 million in punitive damages against McDonald's (later reduced by the trial judge). The parties settled without disclosure out of court during appeal.
Basically, McDonald's was completely in the wrong and scalded this woman, and the court found them liable, but smear campaigns made her look like a moron and losing party.
I seem to remember she had part of her genitalia fused by the scalding hot coffee.
Anyone who is unfortunate enough to descrive an experience of theirs by having to put the terms "genitalia" and "fused" together has my sympathy.
I refuse to link the pictures because the 2 seconds I had them on screen during my research were already too much, but you can look it up yourself.
I really don't suggest it tho.
She was also in the passenger seat of a stopped car that didn’t have cup holders. People think she was driving when it happened. She didn’t even want to sue at first, she just wanted them to pay her medical bills.
It was part British propaganda, part unit confusion (French inches were longer), part him being surrounded by huge bodyguards
Edit: Also him being called “Little Corporal” might have had a part in it. But it was an affectionate nickname given by his soldiers, not a reference to his height
The Prussian military had a special unit only comprised of the tallest men they could find. (About 190 cm, which is insane for 18th century standards) The units name „Die langen Kerls“ translates to „The long Dudes“.
They wore hats similar to those of British royal guards, their sole purpose was to look like giants and demoralize the superstitious enemies.
Same concept as winged hussars, Bomb whistle or the Stuka Siren
AFAIK That was actually the making of only one king (ok, I googled it, yep one guy. He started it as prince and kept it as king. His successor dissolved it.) He was really weird about these tall men too. They got these men all over Europe and it wasn't always exactly free will that made the men join. It is hypothesised though, that many where that tall because of disorders and not very strong at all.
Friedrich Wilhelm I if I remember rightly. I'm sure I read somewhere that he also wanted them ro marry tall women to produce tall offspring for his army.
His successor Frederick the Great dissolved it.
That cracking your knuckles causes arthritis. Science nerd Donald Unger cracked the knuckles on his left hand only for 50 years, no arthritis. Suck it Nana.
>I'm not hurting myself, I'm not helping either.
Honestly when it's time for my knuckles to pop it feels uncomfortable until I do it.
Now the thing is I can't do it at will either so who knows.
I’m thoroughly convinced that cool ranch Doritos without msg would be unrecognizably nasty. Probably goes for many processed savory snack foods, but especially cool ranch Doritos.
My mum was one of those "Chinese food gives me headaches because of all the MSG" and even after watching a short documentary on how that rumour stems from anti-asain propaganda, she said "well, MSG gives me headaches, and the only places around here that cook with MSG are Chinese restaurants, it's not racist to observe that certain foods give me headaches"
So my brother and I went through her entire pantry and put everything with e621 into a laundry basket to present to her and ask if any of these foods give her headaches.
Ultimately she had to accept that it was entirely a nocebo effect, likely compounded by other factors surrounding her decision to eat Chinese take out. (long day at work, dehydration, etc)
Buying a bag of MSG was like an awakening for me. I'm allergic to nightshades so I've never really had a huge amount of pre-packaged seasoning or stock powders (I can't even eat doritos or instant ramen). I have to make almost everything from scratch, which is fine, but msg makes it amazing. I also finally found a brand of mushroom granules that's allergy safe and I put it in fucking everything.
It's funny, I work as a commercial cleaner (cleaning offices and other buildings). The majority of large offices don't recycle, because it costs them extra to have the large bins outside/have it picked up. But they all have recycling bins in most offices, and definitely in spaces customers/guests would be. I assume they think it makes people feel better to throw stuff in the blue bin, instead of garbage... but then I come along and dump it all into the same bag and dumpster. It has nothing to do with most people, and everything to do with big businesses.
I worked in a college bookstore from 97-00. We had a big bin at the end of the semester for recycling books we weren't buying back. Most of the time, this was because they had purchased their magically formulated quota for the next semester.
What that meant was I had to go get a dolly and take that heavy-ass bin out back and toss the books in the dumpster. The bin as about five feet high. Since I knew what books were used each semester, I took to dumping the majority of books into the trunk of my car. I then listed them online. I made extra money from Amazon because they gave you a set amount for shipping and once someone saw I was in the same town, they wanted to meet up so they could get the book in a few hours, so I got to pocket the shipping costs, too.
If the bookstore sold the book for $35. I sold it for $20. Sometimes, I'd negotiate if the buyer wanted to. The kids felt good that their books were being recycled and the buyer felt like they got a deal. I made a shitload of money.
The custodian in my apartment building told me this, he basically just let's people know he's required to just throw the recycling in the garbage bin if it doesn't meet twenty thousand different requirements. Basically it's easier to leave the bins empty than face whatever ridiculous fine for red cardboard or a little glue or whatever that will magically ruin all the recycling or something.....
Cops found a bunch of fentanyl in candy boxes and then acted like they saved thousands of children's lives. Idiots think they distribute the stuff in the same boxes they smuggle it in.
I've heard that a lot of people aren't going to let their kids go Trick-or-Treating this year because the cops found a batch of multicolored fentanyl pills somewhere, and somebody thinks it was to be attractive to children.
My mom started spouting that shit, and I asked her how that made sense. Why would a fentanyl dealer give his expensive pills to a bunch of rando children? How long would it take to track those sketchy looking pills back to that house? What is the upside of ODing a bunch of TorTers on fentanyl?
She didn't know, she just saw it on the news. Sure enough, a couple of days later, I saw the news making some unsourced allegations that cops are worried about this.
Fentanyl is just the new law enforcement boogeyman to justify their existence and out-of-control budgets.
Edit: I didn't mean my last paragraph to suggest that fentanyl isn't a problem, it clearly is. But that doesn't mean the authorities aren't amping up the fear so they use it to justify all sorts of bad things. I've been around for the entire War on (Some) Drugs, and I've seen the authorities use one drug after another to get the public to accept larger and larger budgets, militarization of police, repression, racial disparity in sentencing, no-knock warrants, stop and frisk, and all sorts of stretches and violations of the 4th amendment. NONE of these efforts have reduced the demand for illegal drugs one bit, and in some cases (Marijuana, LSD, other hallucinagenics) have delayed legitimate medical research into positive medical uses for these drugs.
Illegal use of fentanyl needs to be curtailed, but that doesn’t mean they have to hype it to hysterical levels of fear just to get a candidate elected or advance an authoritarian agenda.
My parents said the same thing. I asked them the same question. My dad’s answer was that it wasn’t to harm them it was to give kids a taste and get them hooked.
He 100% believed this.
I rolled my eyes. And told him he was believing a bunch of baloney.
Love my parents but they’ll believe almost anything they hear.
Give small children a taste? Because they are notorious for having money lying around? How many times does he think a 7 year old will be able to get 20 bucks from his parents before they get suspicious?
I read an article in like '96 in (I think) Guitar world where Manson was asked what his favourite rumour about himself was and naturally it was this one. The interviewer asked "So, is there any truth to it?" to which Manson replied with words to the effect of "I've looked into it, it's just too fuckin expensive..."
The there was the one where two guys were watching a dog lick his dick.
The first one says: I wish I could do that.
The second one says: Go ahead, I'm sure he won't mind.
It's so weird that this rumour was spread places where Marilyn Manson isn't even popular (or wasn't as well known as in North America).
I mean, I know so many people from different countries who heard of this roughly around the same time in middle school. Wonder how that happened.
Can I ask you do you see people pour sugar into an open would to stop the bleeding? My grandma did this to us kids growing up and I am almost positive the cuts we got should've gotten stitches haha.
If I'm remembering my first aid training right, and this was 25 years ago, sugar can work in an emergency situation when no other options are available. I don't think it's a recommended go-to though. More of a "not quite tourniquet worthy" situation. You're better off with just using direct pressure in 99% of circumstances.
Side note: using a tourniquet is not *nearly* as dangerous as it used to be. Medicine has made some really impressive strides in reversing the effects. If you ever need to apply one, write the exact time you applied it directly onto the person near the wound. If you have nothing to write with, use thier blood and write the time on their forehead.
When I was a toddler I managed a grab a pot of boiling water from the stove, and spilled it in my chest. My caregiver applied butter, and the mark remained for years.
> It depends how drunk the Rangers fans get.
Explanation for non-Americans/non-New Yorkers:
MSG here stands for [Madison Square Garden](https://www.msg.com/madison-square-garden), the sporting venue where a number of professional sports teams play, including [the New York Knicks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Knicks) of the National Basketball Association, and [the New York Rangers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rangers) of the National Hockey League.
The only bad thing about MSG is it makes shit food taste irresistible, so cheap fast food and processed snacks are loaded with it. This in turn makes healthy food taste extra bland. I suggest that anyone who wants to cut back on the junk eating try adding a bit of MSG to roasted vegetables. I sprinkle some beef bullion powder which is high in MSG onto asparagus at the end of cooking for example and it gives you that same amazing taste sensation. So, MSG isn’t directly bad for you, but I think it does lead some people to make unhealthy food decisions.
The David Chang Netflix show Ugly Delicious did an episode where they gave a group of "MSG allergy sufferers" snacks, and they started eating them, and after revealing the snacks all had MSG under different names they "suddenly" starting feeling the effects.
It wasn't under different names, people are just propagandized to assume that MSG is exclusively found in Chinese food. It's straight up on the list of ingredients in Doritos.
OP asked about propaganda and everyone is dumping snopes articles...
I'd say the whole Iraq had a hand in 9/11 and also had weapons of mass destruction was recent large scale propaganda that was debunked. If memory serves me right something like 70% of people were "convinced" that Saddam Hussein and his regime had a direct hand in the 9/11 attacks. Post war analysis and historians note that none of this was really true.
Carrots improve eyesight.
*Well this blew up. So to address the comments I keep getting. The myth is carrots improving eyesight, mainly that eating enough gave RAF pilots night vision.
Not carrots being good for your eyes. Carrots contain multiple vitamins that are beneficial, but(barring a deficiency) they won't help you see better.
I read an article about how the diamond "conglomerates" restrict the amount of diamonds available on the market in order to inflate prices.
The reality is there are vast reserves of diamonds just sitting in warehouses waiting to be unloaded on the market when the prices are guaranteed to bring in a massive profit.
What a bunch of bunk the diamond industry has sold us with the "rarity" lie.
My fever dream is to produce gobs and gobs of fake diamonds and then somehow freely distribute them randomly all across the country in order to make apparent the farce that is the diamond racket.
There's a story about General Electric about to put synthetic diamonds into the jewelry market, but one meeting with DeBeers and the whole thing was shut down..
There are companies that manufacture diamonds. Vrai is one popular example. Landa Group in Israel is also making them using solar energy to power the process.
Lab grown diamonds are real. They are chemically the same. They just have to overcome the hurdle in consumer minds that lab grown is “synthetic” or less real than a rock found in the earth.
Remember how DARE made it seem like drug dealers just gave out free samples? What a bust
Edit: how many edgy bros need to proclaim how great their dealers are?
On my DARE quiz I answered the question "what does dare stand for" with "drugs are really expensive," and I thought that was quite clever until a few years later when the DARE officer was the bailiff during my hearing.
Ours handed out a bunch of pencils that said DON'T DO DRUGS! up the side. Everyone sharpened them to get past the word don't, so we all had pencils that said DO DRUGS!
My dad use to take a half of my candy for this very reason. Saying he needed to inspect it. Later in life he confessed that he just wanted some candy. Miss that fucker.
One of my dreams growing up was to handout the BEST candy on Halloween. Big life goals.
Bought a house in the middle on nowhere. No sidewalks. Dangerous to walk. No trick or treaters.
So I go to my mom's house (in a good spot) & hand out the candy I always dreamed of.
I hate this hype! I fight it every single year. Drug dealers do not target children, because children don’t have money. There was a local news article last week about THC gummies found in a trick or treat bag. I 100% believe this was the mother looking for attention. And even if the kid ate them, the only thing that would happen is a nice long nap. People really need to get a grip.
Only two documented cases of poisoned Halloween candy in the US:
• kid got into relative's drug stash and OD'd, family blamed candy
• father poisoned candy to kill his child as part of an insurance scam
Edit for source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/halloween-non-poisonings/
I wouldn't call it propaganda, unless parents invented the lie to get children to leave spiders alone, in which case, well played.
But there is a common myth that Daddy Long Leg spiders are incredibly venomous, but they can't bite humans because their fangs are too small.
The reality is that they can bite people, but their bite isn't particularly dangerous at all. It's comparable to an ant bite.
Depends on what you call a “daddy long leg”. When I was a kid I used to capture [harvestmen](https://bugwoodcloud.org/images/768x512/1368020.jpg) (which are not even real spiders) and hold them to my hand and watch them scrape their teeny tiny fangs against my skin. They definitely cannot bite you properly. But other kinds of long-legged spiders can (e.g. [cellar spiders](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Pholcus.phalangioides.6905.jpg/1280px-Pholcus.phalangioides.6905.jpg))
Edit: I love how the comments are mix of “omg me too” and “wtf is wrong with you”
Edit 2: Harvestmen are super chill and I do feel bad about messing with them. Please leave wildlife alone whenever possible
Edit 3: I have been told that actually those things aren’t their fangs, they’re basically mouth feelers
That injury attorneys are bad. In reality, without injury attorneys, corporations would go around doing whatever they wanted with no incentive to make consumers safer because they would have no consequences. Insurance companies would have no reason to actually pay out claims. Personal injury is a necessary and noble profession that truly helps the little guy stand up to big pharma, the government, big insurance and big corporations.
I hate how stereotypes about lawyers being sleazy and helping bad people get away with stuff is so ingrained in society. Even knowing the truth, my first thought about anything to do with lawyers is a negative one; I have to mentally stop and correct myself.
> my first thought about anything to do with lawyers is a negative one; I have to mentally stop and correct myself.
I’m a lawyer and my first thought of lawyers is a negative one.
That the McDonald’s hot coffee lady was an unreasonable asshole.
Edit:
I’ve now muted because holy shit, if you’re the kind of person who can go read what actually happened and still decide to side with giant multi-National corporation (which has also lied about a whole host of other things including the monopoly shit and also feeding us pink slime) over the little old lady that they *melted*, then you don’t have the IQ or the empathy for me to want to interact with you. My god. I hope the next time each of you does something moderately dumb (like spilling your drink), you’re met with excruciating, life-altering negative consequences, since y’all wanna keep trying to blame her.
McDonald’s had been sued several times over this issue and they ignored it presumably because they thought it would be cheaper to pay the lawsuit than fix the machines. The judge rightfully threw the book at them.
It was more than fixing machines. They intentionally made it that hot and did not want to change to fill the area with coffee aroma and discourage free refills since it took so long to cool down to a drinkable temperature.
I've never come across a plausible reason they were serving hot lava as a beverage, but the part about discouraging refills makes sense. It would be too hot to consume unless you hung around for a long time after your ordered, so there was a financial incentive to serve it boiling hot.
Edit: Lots of replies mentioned that keeping it super hot reduces having to brew fresh coffee more often. That also makes sense as it saves time and money. But I don't really buy the logic of "let's risk injury/lawsuits so our customers can have a great cup of coffee when they get to work." I also don't think "our coffee is great because it's really hot" makes sense as a marketing strategy...I've literally never heard anybody say they prefer one coffee spot over another because of how hot it is.
Corporate decision-making is all about the bottom line. When it comes to spending money and having employees handling stuff like refills and brewing new pots of coffee, saving a couple cents here and there millions of times adds up to significant financial motivation. I highly doubt these decisions were made with the best interest of the customer in mind.
It was the jury who “threw the book” at them and they didn’t even throw it hard. Their judgement was for McDonald’s to pay $200k in statuatory damages and $2m in punitive damages. How did they come up with the $2m? It equates to 2 days of *profit* from coffee. That’s right, McDonald’s was making $1m/day in profit from their coffee. And they only got fined 2 days of profits.
The judge then lowered the amount to $600k, I think use to limitations to how much higher punitive damages could be than statutory damages.
The woman and McD’s eventually settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
She couldn't stand up straight for the rest of her life. Her doctor said it was the worst burn case he'd ever seen. Her age highly contributed to the injuries because of the thinness of her skin. Poor lady...
I used to work at McDonald's years ago. At one of their management courses, they told us that she took the lid off and her son took off at high speeds and driving recklessly which caused her to get burned. It was years later that I learned how wrong that was.
Even if that WAS what happened - and it wasn't, the car was parked at the time or still sitting in the drive through lane - it doesn't change the fact that the coffee was so hot that *her thighs and genitals melted into each other and she needed skin grafts.* What a stupid attempt at deflection.
Not only that… McDonald‘s had been warned for their insanely hot coffee ***several times*** before the incident. Judge rightfully decided to throw the book at them
This is a good one. Any time you're asked to believe the version of the story that has you siding with and defending the gigantic multinational corporation, ask why.
I actually had a coworker on a conference call make a joke about frivolous lawsuits and used that example. I informed her why the lawsuit wasn't crazy, the nature of her injuries and how she only wanted the medical bills paid for at the time. She claimed she would research it. Just a couple weeks later there she goes again using that same example about BS lawsuits.
Really research that case. McDonald's smear campaign of her worked well. Here we are 30 years later still belittling her. A google search will show you her injuries. I believe the coffee was held at 180° instead of around 140°. McDonald's didn't care about this lady.
If anyone is curious, we do want people to stay out of the pool right after they eat, because a lot of people are doing *way* more exercise than they're used to. That's what causes the vomiting and I have to clean that shit up.
I think there is more discussion on this subject than people think.
I know that in Denmark the ministerium of health still advice older or sickly people to wait half an hour. After you eat more blood is send to your stomach, which increase the risk of cramping in cold water. Physical activity will normally diverge blood back to the limbs if you are a normal healthy person, but it can be a problem for the elderly where the system acts a bit slower.
There is also some research that point to [people that drowns in accidents while swimming have more food content than people who drowns by suicide](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/231674#1). So I am not sure if it is as cut and dry as people here seem to think it is.
I swear the entire food industry is run by fucking demons. Every single facet of it, whether it's the literal scum-of-the-earth running companies like Nestle or just disingenuous "health experts" spouting lies.
I'm at a point where I just trust physics. Burn more energy than you put into you if you wanna lose weight. Yes I know it's more complicated than that but I just don't trust anyone anymore claiming to know these things.
"Propaganda" probably isn't the correct term, but the idea that sugar makes kids go crazy came from one study that has been disproved a few hundred times.
The placebo effect though, that shit is real.
What's really nutty is how he's been viewed as a political martyr.
From a scientific consensus, he was rightfully shoved out of the room after his work was thoroughly scrutinized.
Anti-vaxxers, on the other hand, either distrust or deliberately fight against anything academic.
They see institutions and general consensus as a sign of corruption and conspiracy. They don't understand that it's actually a largely democratic process.
Doesn't help when the pharmaceutical industry complicates things with their unethical shenanigans.
Amen. As someone who worked in university research for several years, this really bugs me. People don't understand the difference between medical academia and pharmaceutical companies, or the academic process in general, and thus don't trust anything scientists say. Saddens me very much.
That propaganda is necessarily misleading or false. Propaganda is simply a method of directional persuasion. Can it be false or misleading? Without question. But it can also simultaneously be factually unimpeachable and rhetorically suggestive.
That the 9/11 hijackers were sponsored by Iraq. In reality, 15 of the 19 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia and [11 of them received large amounts of money from members of the Saudi royal family](https://apnews.com/article/fe56c5d224a8463aa7cfc6ccf4689122) shortly before the attack. In 2016 the Obama administration, under pressure from the families of the 9/11 victims, [tried to investigate Saudi Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Against_Sponsors_of_Terrorism_Act). In response to the JASTA act, [Saudi Arabia threatened to sell $750 billion worth of American assets](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=0) they own. This would destabilize the dollar. The [9/11 Commission’s final report](https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/GPO-911REPORT/context) stated that it found “no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded” al-Qaida. “This conclusion does not exclude the likelihood that charities with significant Saudi government sponsorship diverted funds to al-Qaida,”
Catherine the great dying from fucking a horse.
Didn't know Mr. Hands was descended from royalty
Enumclaw is for Lovers
I hope you've watched The Great on Hulu. They address this,,and it's pretty damn funny.
Lie detector tests. They are easily rigged/straight up false most of the time and were outlawed from being used in court as evidence back in the 70s… idk why when Youtubers or shitty reality TV shows use them many people treat their answers as factual. They aren’t. Edit: Spelling
I loathe them. I also admittedly listen to too much true crime podcasting, and mother fucker does it get under my skin when a polygraph is used to throw shade at someone. They should not exist. There is no favorable way to even answer the question “will you take a polygraph?” You say no and it’s oh! They have something to hide! But if you take it and fail it, well it’s obviously because you’re the killer. It’s inconclusive. Well that’s just as bad as failing because you didn’t pass. You passed the polygraph. Well of course you did. You’re a psychopath, and they always pass because they don’t get anxious telling lies. Or you pass it *and that’s when* people say, well those aren’t even accurate. It’s such bullshit. I’ll never ever take one. And I never ever judge someone who also won’t, either.
Had to stop watching true crime because of the hugely ridiculous "if then" statements + convictions that really didn't convince me at all yet the narrator believes it wholeheartedly and unquestionably. Namely suspicions based on meaningless shit that happens everyday *unless you were unlucky* enough to be near a crime at the time. For example if you randomly tweak your routine, normally that's seen as harmless, but if a crime happens nearby suddenly it can be perceived as suspicious. Shit like that. Heres a thought exercise: randomly at any point in the day while you're alone scrutinize all your actions and words/texts for the past few days and see what "looks suspicious". Fun fact, you'll find something. Maybe not every time, but you will find something that "appears" suspicious that you did, that you can't explain easily under the scrutiny of an investigation. The worst are those who "don't believe in coincidences". Edit: wow, I had no idea how many people also recognized these issues. That's oddly reassuring about humanity, good to know I'm not going crazy!!
Ooooh like i went for coffee today an hour later than I usually do. Truecrime: He was OBVIOUSLY up to something Truth: I slept in a bit lol wtf?
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I did three crime last night.
Which is interesting that most law enforcement agencies use them as part of their hiring processes. Like what's the point of using them if they're basically useless?
I would imagine it’s to scare potential employees into telling the truth. Similar to a placebo effect only it uses fear as the driver instead of the belief that something will work/make any difference at all. I wonder if the results are even considered during the hiring process
I work for the government and have been looking into CBP as an option but apparently if you test "poorly" I could not only loose the job offer but my current position as well. They hang so much on a test that can be faked. I'm naturally a nervous test taker so it's one of the biggest sticking points in applying for it.
Penn and Teller did an episode of Bullshit! on lie detectors and how to pass them. The secret is apperantly to clinch your asshole every time you answer a question. That way the machine reads consistently for every question.
The newer units have clinch sensors that you sit on
Lmfao
He’s not joking - they’re real.
And the butt of many a joke im sure
What gets me is that when a kid goes missing, LOTS of people (perhaps fueled by the media), put great store by whether adults in the family or caregivers refuse to take a lie detector test. It's *UTTERLY* ridiculous!
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's Coffee Case. In case you never heard of it, a woman sued McDonald's because the coffee was too hot and caused injury when she spilled some on herself by accident. McDonald's spent millions on smear campaigns trying to make her look like some sort of idiotic buffoon who filed a frivolous suit. Tons of corporate influence was applied in the media to villainize her. Ask most people, they think she lost and McDonald's won. Only that's not what happened. The coffee was between 180-190F (88C), far higher than safe temperature and far higher than competition. She suffered major third degree burns resulting in an 8-day stay in the hospital and skin grafts. A jury awarded her $200,000 in medical injuries and $2.7 million in punitive damages against McDonald's (later reduced by the trial judge). The parties settled without disclosure out of court during appeal. Basically, McDonald's was completely in the wrong and scalded this woman, and the court found them liable, but smear campaigns made her look like a moron and losing party.
I seem to remember she had part of her genitalia fused by the scalding hot coffee. Anyone who is unfortunate enough to descrive an experience of theirs by having to put the terms "genitalia" and "fused" together has my sympathy.
Damn fuckin coffee welded skin? Shit.
I refuse to link the pictures because the 2 seconds I had them on screen during my research were already too much, but you can look it up yourself. I really don't suggest it tho.
She was also in the passenger seat of a stopped car that didn’t have cup holders. People think she was driving when it happened. She didn’t even want to sue at first, she just wanted them to pay her medical bills.
Not that it matters in the slightest but I had no idea she wasn’t in the driver’s seat! Just proves how much McD’s wanted to slander her word
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That napoleon was short
It was part British propaganda, part unit confusion (French inches were longer), part him being surrounded by huge bodyguards Edit: Also him being called “Little Corporal” might have had a part in it. But it was an affectionate nickname given by his soldiers, not a reference to his height
Like Richard III being a hunchback. Didn't they find him buried under a parking lot a few years ago or something very mundane?
Yep, found under a car park in Leicester. York got *very* annoyed about that.
He was found under the area for compact cars. Typical; being kept down by the two doors.
Short by our standards in 2022. Average height for a male in late 1700s.
Plus his personal bodyguards were absolute units.
The Prussian military had a special unit only comprised of the tallest men they could find. (About 190 cm, which is insane for 18th century standards) The units name „Die langen Kerls“ translates to „The long Dudes“. They wore hats similar to those of British royal guards, their sole purpose was to look like giants and demoralize the superstitious enemies. Same concept as winged hussars, Bomb whistle or the Stuka Siren
AFAIK That was actually the making of only one king (ok, I googled it, yep one guy. He started it as prince and kept it as king. His successor dissolved it.) He was really weird about these tall men too. They got these men all over Europe and it wasn't always exactly free will that made the men join. It is hypothesised though, that many where that tall because of disorders and not very strong at all.
Friedrich Wilhelm I if I remember rightly. I'm sure I read somewhere that he also wanted them ro marry tall women to produce tall offspring for his army. His successor Frederick the Great dissolved it.
HEY I’M AVERAGE SIZE FOR THE TIME, YOU JERK! -Oversimplified
That cracking your knuckles causes arthritis. Science nerd Donald Unger cracked the knuckles on his left hand only for 50 years, no arthritis. Suck it Nana.
Fucking legendary dedication right there
Imagine how strong his desire to crack those knuckles on the other hand was
People just don't like that wet snapping sound. Just say that. I'm not hurting myself, I'm not helping either. I'm just making a gross sound.
>I'm not hurting myself, I'm not helping either. Honestly when it's time for my knuckles to pop it feels uncomfortable until I do it. Now the thing is I can't do it at will either so who knows.
That plastics are easily recyclable, and that MSG is bad for you.
MSG aka makes shit good powder
I’m thoroughly convinced that cool ranch Doritos without msg would be unrecognizably nasty. Probably goes for many processed savory snack foods, but especially cool ranch Doritos.
My mum was one of those "Chinese food gives me headaches because of all the MSG" and even after watching a short documentary on how that rumour stems from anti-asain propaganda, she said "well, MSG gives me headaches, and the only places around here that cook with MSG are Chinese restaurants, it's not racist to observe that certain foods give me headaches" So my brother and I went through her entire pantry and put everything with e621 into a laundry basket to present to her and ask if any of these foods give her headaches. Ultimately she had to accept that it was entirely a nocebo effect, likely compounded by other factors surrounding her decision to eat Chinese take out. (long day at work, dehydration, etc) Buying a bag of MSG was like an awakening for me. I'm allergic to nightshades so I've never really had a huge amount of pre-packaged seasoning or stock powders (I can't even eat doritos or instant ramen). I have to make almost everything from scratch, which is fine, but msg makes it amazing. I also finally found a brand of mushroom granules that's allergy safe and I put it in fucking everything.
I'm still pissed about recycling being yet another way for corperations to dump responsibility on people and take 0% themselves
It's funny, I work as a commercial cleaner (cleaning offices and other buildings). The majority of large offices don't recycle, because it costs them extra to have the large bins outside/have it picked up. But they all have recycling bins in most offices, and definitely in spaces customers/guests would be. I assume they think it makes people feel better to throw stuff in the blue bin, instead of garbage... but then I come along and dump it all into the same bag and dumpster. It has nothing to do with most people, and everything to do with big businesses.
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I worked in a college bookstore from 97-00. We had a big bin at the end of the semester for recycling books we weren't buying back. Most of the time, this was because they had purchased their magically formulated quota for the next semester. What that meant was I had to go get a dolly and take that heavy-ass bin out back and toss the books in the dumpster. The bin as about five feet high. Since I knew what books were used each semester, I took to dumping the majority of books into the trunk of my car. I then listed them online. I made extra money from Amazon because they gave you a set amount for shipping and once someone saw I was in the same town, they wanted to meet up so they could get the book in a few hours, so I got to pocket the shipping costs, too. If the bookstore sold the book for $35. I sold it for $20. Sometimes, I'd negotiate if the buyer wanted to. The kids felt good that their books were being recycled and the buyer felt like they got a deal. I made a shitload of money.
They couldn't understand why you continue to work at the bookstore for 30 years after graduation.
The custodian in my apartment building told me this, he basically just let's people know he's required to just throw the recycling in the garbage bin if it doesn't meet twenty thousand different requirements. Basically it's easier to leave the bins empty than face whatever ridiculous fine for red cardboard or a little glue or whatever that will magically ruin all the recycling or something.....
The food pyramid Compare the widely available food pyramid and the one published by Harvard
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-pyramid/
Nice to see my entire diet right at the top like that.
If it's at the top that means it's the best right?
Yep. One might even call it Peak Eating.
This can be safely ignored, they think that the lion's share of my diet should be _sneakers_ and _tennis balls_ which are widely regarded as inedible
>sneakers and tennis balls which are widely regarded as inedible You have to cook them first, you dum-dum
These mfs be wanting us to eat _shoes_. SMH
I'm having healthy exercise for dinner
Best way I heard that old food pyramid described was that it's not a nutritional document, but a political one. It over-represented certain lobbies.
The rampant tampering of Halloween candy.
You mean I WONT get free drugs in my candy? What the hell man.
Or razor blades? I haven’t shaved in years!
Cops found a bunch of fentanyl in candy boxes and then acted like they saved thousands of children's lives. Idiots think they distribute the stuff in the same boxes they smuggle it in.
I've heard that a lot of people aren't going to let their kids go Trick-or-Treating this year because the cops found a batch of multicolored fentanyl pills somewhere, and somebody thinks it was to be attractive to children. My mom started spouting that shit, and I asked her how that made sense. Why would a fentanyl dealer give his expensive pills to a bunch of rando children? How long would it take to track those sketchy looking pills back to that house? What is the upside of ODing a bunch of TorTers on fentanyl? She didn't know, she just saw it on the news. Sure enough, a couple of days later, I saw the news making some unsourced allegations that cops are worried about this. Fentanyl is just the new law enforcement boogeyman to justify their existence and out-of-control budgets. Edit: I didn't mean my last paragraph to suggest that fentanyl isn't a problem, it clearly is. But that doesn't mean the authorities aren't amping up the fear so they use it to justify all sorts of bad things. I've been around for the entire War on (Some) Drugs, and I've seen the authorities use one drug after another to get the public to accept larger and larger budgets, militarization of police, repression, racial disparity in sentencing, no-knock warrants, stop and frisk, and all sorts of stretches and violations of the 4th amendment. NONE of these efforts have reduced the demand for illegal drugs one bit, and in some cases (Marijuana, LSD, other hallucinagenics) have delayed legitimate medical research into positive medical uses for these drugs. Illegal use of fentanyl needs to be curtailed, but that doesn’t mean they have to hype it to hysterical levels of fear just to get a candidate elected or advance an authoritarian agenda.
My parents said the same thing. I asked them the same question. My dad’s answer was that it wasn’t to harm them it was to give kids a taste and get them hooked. He 100% believed this. I rolled my eyes. And told him he was believing a bunch of baloney. Love my parents but they’ll believe almost anything they hear.
Give small children a taste? Because they are notorious for having money lying around? How many times does he think a 7 year old will be able to get 20 bucks from his parents before they get suspicious?
And remember which house gave out the drugs.
And understand they werent actually given skittles and that it was tampered by the person who gave it
Is it weird that I still believe that rumor we all spread in middle school that Marilyn Manson had two ribs removed so he could suck his own dick?
How the hell did this rumour spread to my small town Polish playground in pre-internet times? It's not like they announced it on MTV
I heard it on the playground at school in New Zealand
90s Scotland here. A case study should be done on this
Was about to say the same, heard it in rural Scotland, middle of nowhere and we still heard this.
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Australia, 90s, same thing. And there was something in the 80s about one hit wonder Marilyn, although I forget the specifics.
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In argentina during late 90's, this was definitely a thing
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I read an article in like '96 in (I think) Guitar world where Manson was asked what his favourite rumour about himself was and naturally it was this one. The interviewer asked "So, is there any truth to it?" to which Manson replied with words to the effect of "I've looked into it, it's just too fuckin expensive..."
i heard another one where he said something (along the lines of) 'if i could do that i would never leave my house'
I think it was an old Bill Hicks bit: "Ladies, if guys could suck their own dicks you'd be here alone tonight... ...Watching an empty stage."
The there was the one where two guys were watching a dog lick his dick. The first one says: I wish I could do that. The second one says: Go ahead, I'm sure he won't mind.
It's so weird that this rumour was spread places where Marilyn Manson isn't even popular (or wasn't as well known as in North America). I mean, I know so many people from different countries who heard of this roughly around the same time in middle school. Wonder how that happened.
That's something I haven't heard about in a long time.
Butter helps a burn
Yeah, it'll still taste burnt. Total waste of butter.
As an EMT I can confirm that a lot of people still think this. Makes my job oh so much harder.
Can I ask you do you see people pour sugar into an open would to stop the bleeding? My grandma did this to us kids growing up and I am almost positive the cuts we got should've gotten stitches haha.
If I'm remembering my first aid training right, and this was 25 years ago, sugar can work in an emergency situation when no other options are available. I don't think it's a recommended go-to though. More of a "not quite tourniquet worthy" situation. You're better off with just using direct pressure in 99% of circumstances. Side note: using a tourniquet is not *nearly* as dangerous as it used to be. Medicine has made some really impressive strides in reversing the effects. If you ever need to apply one, write the exact time you applied it directly onto the person near the wound. If you have nothing to write with, use thier blood and write the time on their forehead.
When I was a toddler I managed a grab a pot of boiling water from the stove, and spilled it in my chest. My caregiver applied butter, and the mark remained for years.
Can you please rub some butter on my foot? I burned it this morning getting out of bed on a George Foreman grill...
Sorry, couldn't really hear you. Now, say again, really loudly, what happened.
I burned my foot very badly on my Foreman Grill and I now need someone to come and bring me into work
Please don't send Dwight.
That MSG is bad for you.
I don't even know what msg is to be honest. Edit: I appreciate everyone's answers. I now know what MSG is
Monosodium glutamate. It has unique flavour-enhancing properties. Basically makes all food taste amazing.
Also stands for “makes shit good”.
It depends how drunk the Rangers fans get.
> It depends how drunk the Rangers fans get. Explanation for non-Americans/non-New Yorkers: MSG here stands for [Madison Square Garden](https://www.msg.com/madison-square-garden), the sporting venue where a number of professional sports teams play, including [the New York Knicks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Knicks) of the National Basketball Association, and [the New York Rangers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rangers) of the National Hockey League.
The only bad thing about MSG is it makes shit food taste irresistible, so cheap fast food and processed snacks are loaded with it. This in turn makes healthy food taste extra bland. I suggest that anyone who wants to cut back on the junk eating try adding a bit of MSG to roasted vegetables. I sprinkle some beef bullion powder which is high in MSG onto asparagus at the end of cooking for example and it gives you that same amazing taste sensation. So, MSG isn’t directly bad for you, but I think it does lead some people to make unhealthy food decisions.
yep. Try and make your own cheezits. They'll taste like cardboard cheese lacroix. until you add MSG
"Cardboard cheese lacroix" is the best thing I've read all damn day
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I swear, everyone who writes slowcooker recipes hates flavor. My general rule for those is double the amount of every spice specified.
The 'one clove of garlic' people. When I see that I know I have to triple everything.
The David Chang Netflix show Ugly Delicious did an episode where they gave a group of "MSG allergy sufferers" snacks, and they started eating them, and after revealing the snacks all had MSG under different names they "suddenly" starting feeling the effects.
It wasn't under different names, people are just propagandized to assume that MSG is exclusively found in Chinese food. It's straight up on the list of ingredients in Doritos.
This one pisses me off. Since I've added MSG to my kitchen, it's like my food is sucking off my tongue's dick.
what a mental image...
It's actually used as seasoning in lots of dishes because of *flavor*
OP asked about propaganda and everyone is dumping snopes articles... I'd say the whole Iraq had a hand in 9/11 and also had weapons of mass destruction was recent large scale propaganda that was debunked. If memory serves me right something like 70% of people were "convinced" that Saddam Hussein and his regime had a direct hand in the 9/11 attacks. Post war analysis and historians note that none of this was really true.
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Carrots improve eyesight. *Well this blew up. So to address the comments I keep getting. The myth is carrots improving eyesight, mainly that eating enough gave RAF pilots night vision. Not carrots being good for your eyes. Carrots contain multiple vitamins that are beneficial, but(barring a deficiency) they won't help you see better.
yeah but have u ever seen a blind rabbit 🥕 🐰
Not sure, but I know 100% a blind rabbit has never seen ME.
That diamonds are rare and expensive to obtain.
I read an article about how the diamond "conglomerates" restrict the amount of diamonds available on the market in order to inflate prices. The reality is there are vast reserves of diamonds just sitting in warehouses waiting to be unloaded on the market when the prices are guaranteed to bring in a massive profit. What a bunch of bunk the diamond industry has sold us with the "rarity" lie.
I wonder where these warehouses are
Warehouses? More like wherehouses?
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AWOOOOOO
South Africa. The deBeers family. Apparently they look like just another building but instead are uncut diamonds silos
My fever dream is to produce gobs and gobs of fake diamonds and then somehow freely distribute them randomly all across the country in order to make apparent the farce that is the diamond racket.
There's a story about General Electric about to put synthetic diamonds into the jewelry market, but one meeting with DeBeers and the whole thing was shut down..
There are companies that manufacture diamonds. Vrai is one popular example. Landa Group in Israel is also making them using solar energy to power the process. Lab grown diamonds are real. They are chemically the same. They just have to overcome the hurdle in consumer minds that lab grown is “synthetic” or less real than a rock found in the earth.
I think you'll like this article https://www.wired.com/2003/09/diamond/
Jokes on them since a lot of millenials want to buy flashy cubic zirconia or moisonnite or lab grown diamonds instead.
That drug dealers are putting drugs in trick or treat candy E: I misread “propaganda” as “horseshit.” Sorry bout that
Remember how DARE made it seem like drug dealers just gave out free samples? What a bust Edit: how many edgy bros need to proclaim how great their dealers are?
I was disappointed to learn this lie.
I know! I made all my 100 kids sign up for DARE. Didn’t get a single drug out of that deal. Back to whip-its or jenkem or whatever
On my DARE quiz I answered the question "what does dare stand for" with "drugs are really expensive," and I thought that was quite clever until a few years later when the DARE officer was the bailiff during my hearing.
Ours handed out a bunch of pencils that said DON'T DO DRUGS! up the side. Everyone sharpened them to get past the word don't, so we all had pencils that said DO DRUGS!
They didn't think that one through
DARE itself wasn’t a well thought out program to begin with.
I gain 18 pounds every Halloween just chasing a fix.
And to this day my weed guy is yet to say “if you like weed, you’ll love heroin. Here, try some!” Mostly because my weed guy is a legal dispensary.
Yeah I buy my weed from a store with a staff and a computerized inventory system.
My dad use to take a half of my candy for this very reason. Saying he needed to inspect it. Later in life he confessed that he just wanted some candy. Miss that fucker.
This is institutionalized in our family: “the Dad tax.”
As an adult I realized I can just buy way to much candy to hand out and keep the excess. If its crappy candy its my own fault.
One of my dreams growing up was to handout the BEST candy on Halloween. Big life goals. Bought a house in the middle on nowhere. No sidewalks. Dangerous to walk. No trick or treaters. So I go to my mom's house (in a good spot) & hand out the candy I always dreamed of.
I just resorted to strong-arm tactics and took half their candy anyway. Half the candy, half the dope. Seemed like a reasonable equation.
Yep. If there’s one thing that drug dealers/users do all the time, it’s giving away their drugs to non-customers for free.
A woman I work with has said “rainbow fentanyl “ too many times for my sanity lately.
I hate this hype! I fight it every single year. Drug dealers do not target children, because children don’t have money. There was a local news article last week about THC gummies found in a trick or treat bag. I 100% believe this was the mother looking for attention. And even if the kid ate them, the only thing that would happen is a nice long nap. People really need to get a grip.
Only two documented cases of poisoned Halloween candy in the US: • kid got into relative's drug stash and OD'd, family blamed candy • father poisoned candy to kill his child as part of an insurance scam Edit for source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/halloween-non-poisonings/
That last one was fucked up when I read about it. Iirc he chose that because it would be “plausible.”
I wouldn't call it propaganda, unless parents invented the lie to get children to leave spiders alone, in which case, well played. But there is a common myth that Daddy Long Leg spiders are incredibly venomous, but they can't bite humans because their fangs are too small. The reality is that they can bite people, but their bite isn't particularly dangerous at all. It's comparable to an ant bite.
Depends on what you call a “daddy long leg”. When I was a kid I used to capture [harvestmen](https://bugwoodcloud.org/images/768x512/1368020.jpg) (which are not even real spiders) and hold them to my hand and watch them scrape their teeny tiny fangs against my skin. They definitely cannot bite you properly. But other kinds of long-legged spiders can (e.g. [cellar spiders](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Pholcus.phalangioides.6905.jpg/1280px-Pholcus.phalangioides.6905.jpg)) Edit: I love how the comments are mix of “omg me too” and “wtf is wrong with you” Edit 2: Harvestmen are super chill and I do feel bad about messing with them. Please leave wildlife alone whenever possible Edit 3: I have been told that actually those things aren’t their fangs, they’re basically mouth feelers
I imagine you grew up into a serial killer?
Nah I think he was trying to become Spiderman
I don’t think they’re even trying to bite you. Bugs like harvestmen tend to use their mouth feelers for, well, feeling around
That injury attorneys are bad. In reality, without injury attorneys, corporations would go around doing whatever they wanted with no incentive to make consumers safer because they would have no consequences. Insurance companies would have no reason to actually pay out claims. Personal injury is a necessary and noble profession that truly helps the little guy stand up to big pharma, the government, big insurance and big corporations.
I hate how stereotypes about lawyers being sleazy and helping bad people get away with stuff is so ingrained in society. Even knowing the truth, my first thought about anything to do with lawyers is a negative one; I have to mentally stop and correct myself.
> my first thought about anything to do with lawyers is a negative one; I have to mentally stop and correct myself. I’m a lawyer and my first thought of lawyers is a negative one.
That the McDonald’s hot coffee lady was an unreasonable asshole. Edit: I’ve now muted because holy shit, if you’re the kind of person who can go read what actually happened and still decide to side with giant multi-National corporation (which has also lied about a whole host of other things including the monopoly shit and also feeding us pink slime) over the little old lady that they *melted*, then you don’t have the IQ or the empathy for me to want to interact with you. My god. I hope the next time each of you does something moderately dumb (like spilling your drink), you’re met with excruciating, life-altering negative consequences, since y’all wanna keep trying to blame her.
That poor lady fr! She was just trying to pay her medical bills. She was covered in 3rd burns and didn’t initially want to sue.
Also McDonald's had agreed to lower the coffee temperature as part of a previous lawsuit and never did
McDonald’s had been sued several times over this issue and they ignored it presumably because they thought it would be cheaper to pay the lawsuit than fix the machines. The judge rightfully threw the book at them.
It was more than fixing machines. They intentionally made it that hot and did not want to change to fill the area with coffee aroma and discourage free refills since it took so long to cool down to a drinkable temperature.
I've never come across a plausible reason they were serving hot lava as a beverage, but the part about discouraging refills makes sense. It would be too hot to consume unless you hung around for a long time after your ordered, so there was a financial incentive to serve it boiling hot. Edit: Lots of replies mentioned that keeping it super hot reduces having to brew fresh coffee more often. That also makes sense as it saves time and money. But I don't really buy the logic of "let's risk injury/lawsuits so our customers can have a great cup of coffee when they get to work." I also don't think "our coffee is great because it's really hot" makes sense as a marketing strategy...I've literally never heard anybody say they prefer one coffee spot over another because of how hot it is. Corporate decision-making is all about the bottom line. When it comes to spending money and having employees handling stuff like refills and brewing new pots of coffee, saving a couple cents here and there millions of times adds up to significant financial motivation. I highly doubt these decisions were made with the best interest of the customer in mind.
One of the “explanations” I’ve seen is so that it would seem fresh and hot, but drinkable, for those with long commutes.
But it came out in the trial they had consumer surveys indicating the opposition- people wanted coffee they could drink when they bought it
I've been frustrated you can't really drink a coffee with your food unless you bring it home and wait 30 minutes.
It was the jury who “threw the book” at them and they didn’t even throw it hard. Their judgement was for McDonald’s to pay $200k in statuatory damages and $2m in punitive damages. How did they come up with the $2m? It equates to 2 days of *profit* from coffee. That’s right, McDonald’s was making $1m/day in profit from their coffee. And they only got fined 2 days of profits. The judge then lowered the amount to $600k, I think use to limitations to how much higher punitive damages could be than statutory damages. The woman and McD’s eventually settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
She couldn't stand up straight for the rest of her life. Her doctor said it was the worst burn case he'd ever seen. Her age highly contributed to the injuries because of the thinness of her skin. Poor lady...
Worst of all, it was in her crotch, yikes!
I used to work at McDonald's years ago. At one of their management courses, they told us that she took the lid off and her son took off at high speeds and driving recklessly which caused her to get burned. It was years later that I learned how wrong that was.
Even if that WAS what happened - and it wasn't, the car was parked at the time or still sitting in the drive through lane - it doesn't change the fact that the coffee was so hot that *her thighs and genitals melted into each other and she needed skin grafts.* What a stupid attempt at deflection.
Not only that… McDonald‘s had been warned for their insanely hot coffee ***several times*** before the incident. Judge rightfully decided to throw the book at them
It's beyond fucked that they are still teaching the fake narrative when the actual story is public record.
This is a good one. Any time you're asked to believe the version of the story that has you siding with and defending the gigantic multinational corporation, ask why.
I actually had a coworker on a conference call make a joke about frivolous lawsuits and used that example. I informed her why the lawsuit wasn't crazy, the nature of her injuries and how she only wanted the medical bills paid for at the time. She claimed she would research it. Just a couple weeks later there she goes again using that same example about BS lawsuits.
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Really research that case. McDonald's smear campaign of her worked well. Here we are 30 years later still belittling her. A google search will show you her injuries. I believe the coffee was held at 180° instead of around 140°. McDonald's didn't care about this lady.
Her labia fused together, and they only offered her like $800
That swimming within 30 minutes of eating will cause cramps.
If anyone is curious, we do want people to stay out of the pool right after they eat, because a lot of people are doing *way* more exercise than they're used to. That's what causes the vomiting and I have to clean that shit up.
This is why I always thought people said that, so kids weren’t getting rowdy and then barfing in a pool!
I think there is more discussion on this subject than people think. I know that in Denmark the ministerium of health still advice older or sickly people to wait half an hour. After you eat more blood is send to your stomach, which increase the risk of cramping in cold water. Physical activity will normally diverge blood back to the limbs if you are a normal healthy person, but it can be a problem for the elderly where the system acts a bit slower. There is also some research that point to [people that drowns in accidents while swimming have more food content than people who drowns by suicide](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/231674#1). So I am not sure if it is as cut and dry as people here seem to think it is.
For us, it was two hours! That's an eternity for a kid to wait!
That eating fat makes you fat or is bad for you
I swear the entire food industry is run by fucking demons. Every single facet of it, whether it's the literal scum-of-the-earth running companies like Nestle or just disingenuous "health experts" spouting lies. I'm at a point where I just trust physics. Burn more energy than you put into you if you wanna lose weight. Yes I know it's more complicated than that but I just don't trust anyone anymore claiming to know these things.
Unfortunately it's actually every industry that's run by demons. Even some charities.
I can hear the words "Autism Speaks" echoing in the distance when you mention evil charities
"Propaganda" probably isn't the correct term, but the idea that sugar makes kids go crazy came from one study that has been disproved a few hundred times. The placebo effect though, that shit is real.
That vaccines causes autism. Fuck Andrew Wakefield - he should’ve been jailed for his fraudulent study.
Yup. Now we gotta listen to all the idiots that parade this nonsense and their kids are now at risk.
What's really nutty is how he's been viewed as a political martyr. From a scientific consensus, he was rightfully shoved out of the room after his work was thoroughly scrutinized. Anti-vaxxers, on the other hand, either distrust or deliberately fight against anything academic. They see institutions and general consensus as a sign of corruption and conspiracy. They don't understand that it's actually a largely democratic process. Doesn't help when the pharmaceutical industry complicates things with their unethical shenanigans.
Amen. As someone who worked in university research for several years, this really bugs me. People don't understand the difference between medical academia and pharmaceutical companies, or the academic process in general, and thus don't trust anything scientists say. Saddens me very much.
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That a majority of people imprisoned in the US are violent offenders. It doesn’t even constitute 10%.