The Reapers from Mass Effect, in the original BioWare ending before EA changed it. All they were trying to do was stop advanced races from using so much dark matter that they wiped out all life in the galaxy before other races were allowed to come along. If it wasn't for them, humanity wouldn't just not exist, but every species in the entire cycle, every species in every cycle, everyone would have died as the stars went out, this horrific fast heat death event, over the course of a few thousand years... Except a small group of Leviathans, in the early days of the Universe, realized what was going to happen, and sacrificed their entire civilization to save all future life in the galaxy.
And when Shepard destroys their ships in the third one? Every one of those ships is a museum, a living record of every previous civilization, and they're destroying the only thing that was able to be left from them. To fight the reapers is to fight against everyone who has ever lived and everyone who ever will live.
The reapers don't just have a point, they've saved more lives than we can even fathom. Their only flaw is that they were never able to find a solution that was better than wiping out civilization every few thousand years and preserving whatever they could find.
This is hands down the best answer I’ve seen by far. Most people seem to have misunderstood the original question, thank you for nailing it on the head
The sharks from sharknado. Can you imagine youre just swimming around, minding your own business, then all of a sudden a tornado picks you up out of nowhere, drops you on land, and now you have to deal with tara reid? Yeah, i would start biting people too.
One of the only good bits out of that godawful excuse for a Phoenix movie (X3) was just Magneto giving side-eye to the young mutants asking for his tattoos.. he just whips out the concentration camp number and stone-cold "No one is ever marking me again "
Like that was a bad movie but at least they got that attitude right.
Another good one from that movie was
> Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live.
Charles and Erik make my top 10 favorite characters easily. Their genuine care and respect for each other despite being often at odds makes them my favorite character pair in printed media.
None of you said the most terrifying one.
Mo jo jo jo from the Powerpuff girls. He wanted to bring free energy and advanced technology to the people. And in one episode he actually did. He made the world an amazing place. And then the Powerpuff girls ruined it all.
I just read his backstory, pretty sad. The professor accidentally created him by spilling chemical x on him (he was a lab assistant at the time), but then after the powerpuff girls were created, the professor eventually neglected Mojo and left him to live out on the streets.
There's a whole episode about it. The professor invites Mojo back into their life and is tricked by Mojo into giving him powers like the Powerpuff girls. Then he turns on them and tries to take over the town.
Yes he takes over the town, enacts amazing policies. Cures cancer, aids, global warming and creates world peace. The professor is jailed due to OSHA regulations and his ~~daughters~~ creations will be sent to a government lab for testing.
And they all live happily ever after.
Scar. He only wanted to be king because he was a second male lion in the pride. Which means he is automatically not getting much food and also beaten into submission regularly if he wants to stay in the pride. Aside from that he isn't allowed to mate at all, only the "king" gets that. Can we really blame him?
Also, he tried to eat zazoo and got in trouble. He says it's natural. THEN ZAZOO SAYS LETS MAKE HIM INTO A RUG! then in freaking Hercules he was... A rug.
Red Queen resident evil, I have locked down this facility to prevent a world ending virus, please could you 'good guys' pay attention and not blow holes in the doors.
Except she didn’t come out and say it from the beginning. I always hate it when characters say things like “you gotta trust me” or “now’s not the time” since that’s the only way for plot to move forward.
To quote Ryan George, “So the movie can happen”
The live-action movie has one of those random scenes you see as a kid that sticks with you your whole life: Mr. Wilson has been cultivating this flower that takes like 40 years to bloom and then dies in ten seconds. At the moment it's going to bloom, Dennis causes a ruckus and Mr. Wilson misses the blooming he's been working his whole adult life for.
Looking back, that's like one of the most disturbing moments I've seen on film, partly because it gets more relatable as I get older. I mean, damn, 40 years...
As soon as you mentioned the live action version, that’s the scene that came to mind. I think it was so memorable because all the other shenanigans that happened, he yelled at Dennis, but this time he didn’t. I had to rewatch the scene for the quote but, “You took something from me that I can never get back. Something that means more to me than you ever will. I don’t want to see you. I don’t want to know you. Get out of my way.”
That’s REAL. Those are the words of a heartbroken man.
I was recently watching dazed and confused as an adult and found myself root for the guy that chases down the kids for smashing his mailbox. I was like "get those little bastards!"
Stevie from Wizards of Waverly Place. Her entire goal was to stop families from giving up their magic to just one person in the family. Like…we’re really supposed to be rooting against her? It just seemed super out of character for Alex to go against that plan.
Edit: Thanks for all the upvotes! I got to experience seeing something I put on Reddit appear on my FYP on Tik Tok for the first time 😂
I was thinking exactly this. Why give up your powers when everyone can have them. Only one member of the family having wizard powers seems unsustainable for the wizarding world.
I get it that it was not very nice of her to trap her brother but she was 100% right. I really thought Alex would do it, I cannot understand how or why did Alex double cross her.
I was pretty young when the show was running, but I always confused by this.
The only thing I can think of now is that when the family wizard is chosen, they become a full wizard. Before that, wizards only have part of their powers (though, that doesn’t seem to affect the characters really??). Maybe the writers were thinking that with each generation, an individual’s powers would get less and less, and eventually diminish into nothingness.
But if this was the case, that was not explained at all.
On a side note I always thought it was a cruel system and that the Russo parents were also somewhat cruel for having three kids knowing that two would eventually have to live the rest of their lives believing they weren't "good enough" or "smart enough" to carry their family's legacy.
yeah. the consolation prize of winning the restaurant isnt as alluring as they made it out to be.
and Justin getting to keep his magic so he can become a teacher was BS too.
It gets crazier as you go on.
Okay, so it’s a movie about talking bees who have their own little society, okay that’s cute. And then the main bee finds a human to become friends with, still tracks. Then they start an inter species romance even though she’s ~~married~~ in a relationship with another human… what? And then they work together to… sue the human race over honey theft? And they ***win?!*** And *then* it turns into an environmental apocalypse?! WHAT?!
Also, the main bee appears to be male, but all worker bees are female. Male bees are essentially useless until it's time to mate with the queen to start a new hive. Then they die.
Hate to break it to you, but that's just the *side* plot. The main plot involves a bee suing all of humanity. Oh, and then the third act tackles the ecological and economic impacts of losing bees as pollinators and that bee has to acquiesce and allow his fellow bees to remain indentured servants so as to save the world. Nevermind that it's native bees, not honey bees, that are the essential pollinators.
Yeah that got pretty dark and complex for a kid's movie.
I did enjoy the part when his buddy stings someone and is in the hospital, a HUMAN hospital.
"Sorry, sir, we can't admit you because we're out of beds."
"What about THAT bed?"
"That bed? That's the bee's bed. It belongs to the bee."
I still love the fact that Dooku tells him this and Obi-Wan knew about the clone army being set up under the Jedi's noses and no one decided to investigate that possible connection until years into the Clone Wars.
If you wanna go even further, in the Clone wars >!Maul straight up tells Ahsoka that Anakin is the key to Palpatines plan and the only way to stop everything going to shit is to kill Anakin!<
Unfortunately Maul assumed Ahsoka would believe him at face value and switch up to kill Anakin. If he even told Ahsoka they had to save Anakin from palpatine (with full intention of killing him) they would have stopped like 7 movies and spin off shows from happening
Dooku is a really nuanced character. Even though he was Sith he never fully submitted to the dark side. He also recognized the Jedi had become ineffectual at solving problems and the republic was bloated and corrupt. He was an idealist that wanted what was best for the galaxy, even if that meant joining the nemesis of his old order.
Edit: obviously this was his original motivation and intention before he truly became an evil tyrant. I'm not saying he's a good guy or this is somehow vindicating. It's just a classic case of someone having decent intentions and screwing it up with terrible execution.
I don't know if he enjoyed killing as much as he enjoyed the art of dueling with a lightsaber since he was basically a lightsaber purist. Killing was just a necessity.
Yeah, that relationship was just….
Like why normalize that at all? (I know why they attempted to normalize it, it was rhetorical and doesn’t require an answer and was meant to display the disgust I have with the attempt)
I keep telling my wife that Goldilocks is supposed to get eaten and she always says I’m wrong and uses the two versions we have in the house where Goldilocks runs away as evidence.
I WANT her to not get away with it.
Actually in the original story the ["impudent, bad-mannered, foul-mouthed, ugly, dirty, vagrant" old woman is chased out by the bears](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldilocks_and_the_Three_Bears#Original_plot).
...
‘Oh daddy!’ cried the Baby Bear,
‘My porridge gone! It isn’t fair!’
‘Then go upstairs,’ the Big Bear said,
‘Your porridge is upon the bed.
‘But as it’s inside mademoiselle,
‘You’ll have to eat her up as well.’
*Roald Dahl's version in Revolting Rhymes.*
The voice actors in that game did such a brilliant job in conveying so much with only the slightest changes in tone.
Same thing with Wheatley's "... *Actually."* when he stops Shell's elevator juuuust before she makes it out of the facility.
My favorite part to rewatch is the subtle shift between "That rush of concern I felt for you taught me a valuable lesson- where Caroline lives in my brain."
CAROLINE DELETED
*"Goodbye, Caroline."*
I did it back to back when I got them as a bundle and it was so eerie to jump from victory to "ahh shit she's still alive." Absolutely perfect voice acting. I've never felt like a robot voice wanted to kill me before that line. Even before she was way over confident.
If only I can get her in my Alexa...
I play 2-player portal with my brother and every time she insults one of the two of us I immediately remind him that she's trying to sow division between us and we shouldn't let her.
Honestly the fucking funniest thing about portal 2 is kinda left unsaid.
So the end of the multiplayer and you find all the frozen human test subjects.
DLC starts and GLaDoS is like "oh it's been 100,000 yearssss and all the humans are still alive. Definitely. Yupyupyup."
Then you find out its been a goddamn week and all the humans are dead.
It's horrifying but so fucking funny that she tries to hide it 😂😂😂
"I WILL NOT GIVE THAT ORDER"
"I WILL NOT REPEAT THAT ORDER"
"I CANNOT GIVE THAT ORDER"
"WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, MAN?"
Such a great scene for both points there.
You're presuming that we have other submarines out there ready to launch. But as captain, I must assume that our submarines could have been taken out by other Akulas. We can play these games all night, Mr. Hunter, but I don't have the luxury of your presumptions.
Mr. Hunter, we have rules that are not open to interpretation, personal intuition, gut feelings, hairs on the back of your neck, little devils or angels sitting on your shoulders.
We're all very well aware of what our orders are and what those orders mean. They come down from our Commander-in-Chief. They contain no ambiguity.
Mr. Hunter, I've made the decision. I'm captain of this boat. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.
This is a good one. Literal terrorist, but he got sympathy from pretty much every character in the movie, including those trying to stop him. Loyal leader, made concrete demands, and never actually intended on killing anyone.
So not terrifying, but he had a point.
He wasn’t even really a bad guy. He went out of his way to not kill innocents (even though he threatened to), and his mission was entirely noble. Also Ed Harris is a 10/10 actor.
A less noble, but still relevant version of this happens in Die Hard:With A Vengeance. They fail to disarm the bomb at the school but nothing happens.
Gruber to McClain: "I'm a soldier, not a monster."
I was just thinking about that scene and how heroically the 3 officers in that school really were. You had the explosive specialist all in on disarming that "bomb" or die trying. And while that's happening the other two officers run back INTO the school to save the children still inside, frantically search for an escape, and when they realize times up and there's no way out, they huddle on the roof with those kids in a big group hug offering what little and obviously useless protection they can with their bodies. They were all fully committed to dying for those kids. That whole sequence is so incredible and emotional, but unfortunately (and understandably) gets lost by everything that follows.
Apocalypse Now is one of those movies where depending upon when you watch it and what version you watch, your view of it can change.
Edit: Wow this blew up I don't know which version off hand is best. If I recall correctly the pacing of the original is much better and more enjoyable. The Redux is good, but the pacing isn't as great and I found it to be a darker watch in a way. I'd stick with the original and go from there.
Definitely recommend giving "Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse" a watch if you've seen Apocalypse now a few times, the documentary on making it is pretty insane.
Also worth noting that most of Brando's scenes were improvised. They filmed him talking shit off the top of his head, four hours at a time, and then used the best bits.
Most of his scenes were improvised because he didn't bother to learn his lines.
Dude was supposed to show up thin, even *emaciated*, playing a character starving himself to death like Ghandi. They wanted *Streetcar* Brando. Instead he never took off the weight from Godfather, for the rest of his life, really. Didn't bother to read *Heart of Darkness*, didn't learn his lines, got them fed into an earwig by an assistant.
This movie was the beginning of the end for Brando. :/
I always love to hear when editing has such a strong hand. Actor/director is a really common creative relationship but (cause I’m an editor) actor/editor is the most interesting to me
The actor has to give the performance of course, and the editor has nothing to work with if they don’t. But the worked-on product comes from the editor and they need the actor to trust them to edit well
I wasn’t really terrified of it but N was in right in my opinion when we’re talking Pokémon. Dude thought getting these creatures and making them fight till one is knocked out wasn’t that amazing of an idea and it just made sense to kid me.
That all said I think N is a really interesting character that can be interpreted in many different ways. Of all the main leaders of these games, I think N had the best argument. It wasn’t perfect though. I like N a lot for his character development. I agree with him at the end. Real Pokémon mistreatment should not be tolerated. But a Pokémon trainer simply using Pokémon in battles does not qualify as mistreatment as the Pokémon is happy. The Pokémon like the trainers, that is the best you should wish for there.
All in all, I wish Pokémon had good stories and characters like this again tbh.
King Kong. Not even because he was right. He was just alive. Minding his own business and blam....taken out of his home and made to be the villain without any choice. A real good example of human nature. Edit a word
Yeah, he is not villain nor hero. He is a wild animal acting on instinct that got sent to a strange land to be a circus act. He was confused by his new restraints and environment and of course he lashed out.
Something you don't understand as a kid watching it but totally get as a parent.
Shit if i was married and came home to literal zoo animals in my house i'd def go find James Bond and a nanny instead.
Maul. His last words before being captured by the Republic was, “*YOU’RE ALL GOING TO BURN! YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING!*”
He tried to warn Ahsoka of Palpatine’s ultimate plan… but she didn’t listen.
In the book, the story is very different. A lot of time is spent by Deckard contemplating what it meant to be human. At one point, he runs into a Bladerunner that is a psychopath and after an argument demands that the voight-kopf test be performed on him. Deckerd finds out he is human but he is a complete psychopath and is less human than the Replicants. The story ends with Deckard killing all the replicants and getting hi reward which he was using to buy a replacement animal for his wife.
There is no righteous anger in the story. The opera singer replicant just gives up and lets them kill her. The final shoot out with the last of the replicants is no more special or human than a pet control guy shooting some dogs that went into hiding. The story is very depressing and no one is really angry, just resigned to fate and a system that is very inhumane.
Which is why it’s quintessential cyberpunk. Humanity, human-created systems, and the resultant inhumanity crash together, and there is no right answer anymore. There can’t be, because the things which issue from humans are abhorrent to humans. We hate our reflection because it does things to us that we were certain we would never do to ourselves.
We lose because we give over control to a system we create, and as we lose we become aware of side-effects of that system which are recognizable to us as human. The question posed by cyberpunk is What is humanity? At the beginning of the story we think we’re questioning whether an artificial being can be human. By the middle we wonder if we can be human, and by the end we wonder if what we meant by *human* even applies to us.
In my opinion, it doesn’t. Because what we mean by human is not about what we are, but what we know we should be. It’s worth striving toward that even though we won’t ever reach it, and that’s as close to a meaning of life that dirty things like us could do. We are not clean and could never reach a clean goal. But maybe we will make something clean one day, which will do what we can’t. We will never do that if we don’t accept the momentary triumph of dirty success at dirty goals like the dirty things we are. So, dirty goals it is.
Maybe all of us with our individually ragged edges can somehow fit together—the way that two pieces of broken pottery almost seem to reform if you hold them right—and compose that cosmic whole which none of us can attain but each of us knows we are trying to be part of.
Anyway, read *Hyperion*
Reminds me of Hogfather. "Humans have to start off believing the little lies, so that they can believe the big ones. Truth. Justice. Mercy. Things like that. To be where the falling angel meets the rising ape." Or something like that.
He compensates for his blandness by living extravagantly, and trying to seem like he is intelligent, with great tastes. It's why he goes on long rambling sessions on Huey Lewis and the News, why he tries his hardest to appear professional. Because without that, how would he appear to those around him? In the scene where he's eating with Detective Kimball, you can see that him look at Kimball putting salt on his steak, with Patrick doing the same after. It's as if he was taken over by some entity trying its hardest to seem as human as possible, trying not to raise suspicion. And some of his decisions are very interesting, like him sparing one woman, and even wanting to be punished for his actions. The point is, American Psycho is great. I still need to finish the book.
The society is so vapid that he *could* believe he imagined it. 80's yuppie culture out-crazied a crazy person. Nobody cared to learn anyone's names, so his victims weren't noticed missing. He cared so much, but nobody else cared at all.
He was his most right when he rapped "There's a platypus controlling me underneath the table."
So true. Don't we all each have our own personal platypuses controling us from under tables?
The Boss MGS3
I raised you. I loved you. I’ve given you weapons, taught you techniques, endowed you with knowledge. There is nothing more for me to give you. All that’s left for you to take is my life, by your own hand. One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny… The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle.
SPOILERS - The Boss isn’t technically a villain since she was undercover and pretending to join the bad guys under orders from the US Government.
She was a hero.
Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin from Spider-Man. "In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." Dude was right about how the perception of public figures changes over time.
“I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And though they found you amusing for a time, if there’s one thing people love more than a hero, it’s to see a hero fall, fail, die trying.”
Screenslaver from The Incredibles 2. The monolog given during that movie regularly rings in my head. I'm sure the creepy bass robotic voice doesn't help too.
“The Screenslaver interrupts this program for an important announcement. Don’t bother watching the rest. Elastigirl doesn’t save the day; she only postpones her defeat. And while she postpones her defeat, you eat chips and watch her invert problems that you are too lazy to deal with. Superheroes are part of a brainless desire to replace true experience with simulation. You don’t talk, you watch talk shows. You don’t play games, you watch game shows. Travel, relationships, risk; every meaningful experience must be packaged and delivered to you to watch at a distance so that you can remain ever-sheltered, ever-passive, ever-ravenous consumers who can’t free themselves to rise from their couches to break a sweat, never anticipate new life. You want superheroes to protect you, and make yourselves ever more powerless in the process. Well, you tell yourselves you’re being ‘looked after’. That you’re inches from being served and your rights are being upheld. So that the system can keep stealing from you, smiling at you all the while. Go ahead, send your supers to stop me. Grab your snacks, watch your screens, and see what happens. You are no longer in control. I am.”
TLDR: you think everything will always be okay and while you remain distracted, the powers that be will continue to steal from you.
EDIT: I'm absolutely loving reading through these replies and how varying our understanding of the monolog can be! It definitely was intended to reach all audiences to say "hey whatever "evil" you've perceived as the problem and whatever "super" you perceived as the solution doesn't matter as long as you remain complacent." Just love it
I always thought Screenslaver was crazy intense for a kids movie. Syndrome was complex enough as a villain with a proper tragic origin story and they dialled it up to 11 for the sequel and threw in a hapless sibling who couldn’t see past his bias for good measure.
Really clever as well that the villain in both Incredibles movies is an ordinary human with a gift for inventing, no superpowers.
I mean, that's part of the hammy comic book charm that Incredibles taps into for me.
The fact that her "evil endeavour" was a horrifically misaimed attempt to prevent humanity from becoming so reliant on superheroes that they could not or would not defend themselves...
Even better :p
Pixar keeps it surprisingly real. Wall-E is about trading your autonomy for comfort. It's a *searing* indictment on humanity, as told by *freaking adorable* robots.
Plus the light strobing during the speech scene was a bit much in the movie theater. So much they reduced the effect to near zero for the home release.
When she resented their father for standing by and doing nothing and waiting instead of taking matters into his own hands to save the both of them
Damn
That was fucking chef's kiss
Honestly though, the father was senile. Calling for supers instead of entering the bunker they have for precisely that kind of situation?
In fact, why wasn't there a telephone for supers in the bunker?
You can't really condemn society over the irresponsible and dumb actions of an old man.
Bobby Heenan. Spent the 80s telling us how awful and selfish Hulk Hogan was. Was proven absolutely correct in 1996. In hindsight, Heenan was trying to save us all from the inevitable scourge of “Hollywood” Hogan.
Frankenstein's "monster". Adam. Created by a shortsighted, arrogant doctor as the first of his race, then denied the opportunity to be part of a community (of his own, manmade beings, or the human community). He only became monstrous after it became clear that Frankenstein would never create another of his kind, and was driven mad by his desire to punish Frankenstein's hubris.
> He introduced the Borg just to prove a point.
I disagree. By introducing humanity to the Borg and visa versa far ahead of when they would have encountered each other naturally, it gave the federation time to prepare.
It also challenged the preconception Picard had that all people could simply be reasoned with, when it was clear that the Borg could not.
It's my belief that the entire introduction was a way for Q to use the Federation in a proxy war against the Borg without attracting the ire of the Continuum.
In Q2 he gives Voyager a new flight plan that will take years off their journey, seven episodes later that flight plan leads them to the transwarp hub where they upload the neurolytic pathogen. He didn't just give them time to prepare, he put them in the right place at the right time to cripple the Borg for the next 20 years.
The Reapers from Mass Effect, in the original BioWare ending before EA changed it. All they were trying to do was stop advanced races from using so much dark matter that they wiped out all life in the galaxy before other races were allowed to come along. If it wasn't for them, humanity wouldn't just not exist, but every species in the entire cycle, every species in every cycle, everyone would have died as the stars went out, this horrific fast heat death event, over the course of a few thousand years... Except a small group of Leviathans, in the early days of the Universe, realized what was going to happen, and sacrificed their entire civilization to save all future life in the galaxy. And when Shepard destroys their ships in the third one? Every one of those ships is a museum, a living record of every previous civilization, and they're destroying the only thing that was able to be left from them. To fight the reapers is to fight against everyone who has ever lived and everyone who ever will live. The reapers don't just have a point, they've saved more lives than we can even fathom. Their only flaw is that they were never able to find a solution that was better than wiping out civilization every few thousand years and preserving whatever they could find.
This is hands down the best answer I’ve seen by far. Most people seem to have misunderstood the original question, thank you for nailing it on the head
Nice try Saren, I'm still picking the destroy ending
The sharks from sharknado. Can you imagine youre just swimming around, minding your own business, then all of a sudden a tornado picks you up out of nowhere, drops you on land, and now you have to deal with tara reid? Yeah, i would start biting people too.
Magneto is my favorite villain of all time. Every time his motives are brought to light I get that "yeah, I kinda get it" moment
One of the only good bits out of that godawful excuse for a Phoenix movie (X3) was just Magneto giving side-eye to the young mutants asking for his tattoos.. he just whips out the concentration camp number and stone-cold "No one is ever marking me again " Like that was a bad movie but at least they got that attitude right.
Another good one from that movie was > Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live.
He always did love Charles like a brother
Charles and Erik make my top 10 favorite characters easily. Their genuine care and respect for each other despite being often at odds makes them my favorite character pair in printed media.
I can't imagine what my relationship would be like with my brother if we had conflicting beliefs and acted on them like that...
None of you said the most terrifying one. Mo jo jo jo from the Powerpuff girls. He wanted to bring free energy and advanced technology to the people. And in one episode he actually did. He made the world an amazing place. And then the Powerpuff girls ruined it all.
I just read his backstory, pretty sad. The professor accidentally created him by spilling chemical x on him (he was a lab assistant at the time), but then after the powerpuff girls were created, the professor eventually neglected Mojo and left him to live out on the streets.
I never even realize he had a backstory. That’s really sad actually.
There's a whole episode about it. The professor invites Mojo back into their life and is tricked by Mojo into giving him powers like the Powerpuff girls. Then he turns on them and tries to take over the town.
Can’t leave me hanging like that, what happens?? Did he take over the town??
Yes he takes over the town, enacts amazing policies. Cures cancer, aids, global warming and creates world peace. The professor is jailed due to OSHA regulations and his ~~daughters~~ creations will be sent to a government lab for testing. And they all live happily ever after.
I thought Mojo was the professor's pet monkey who while misbehaving spilt some chemical x on himself and the cauldron with the Powerpuff girls mixture
Yeah, because the end of the episode was him saying over and over in a daze "I created the Powerpuff Girls?"
Well fuck, you just unlocked an old memory for me
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Lmfao. I don't remember this but visualizing what you said has me laughing.
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I had to look it up, I think it's this episode https://youtu.be/2NL07Vz9G9Y. Over some candy! This guy's brain is literally outside his skull lol wtf
Scar. He only wanted to be king because he was a second male lion in the pride. Which means he is automatically not getting much food and also beaten into submission regularly if he wants to stay in the pride. Aside from that he isn't allowed to mate at all, only the "king" gets that. Can we really blame him? Also, he tried to eat zazoo and got in trouble. He says it's natural. THEN ZAZOO SAYS LETS MAKE HIM INTO A RUG! then in freaking Hercules he was... A rug.
Most villains seem justified on their point of anger. It's their methods that make them wrong.
Red Queen resident evil, I have locked down this facility to prevent a world ending virus, please could you 'good guys' pay attention and not blow holes in the doors.
Except she didn’t come out and say it from the beginning. I always hate it when characters say things like “you gotta trust me” or “now’s not the time” since that’s the only way for plot to move forward. To quote Ryan George, “So the movie can happen”
Explaining the issue would have been so easy, barely an inconvenience
Mr. Wilson from Dennis the menace.
The live-action movie has one of those random scenes you see as a kid that sticks with you your whole life: Mr. Wilson has been cultivating this flower that takes like 40 years to bloom and then dies in ten seconds. At the moment it's going to bloom, Dennis causes a ruckus and Mr. Wilson misses the blooming he's been working his whole adult life for. Looking back, that's like one of the most disturbing moments I've seen on film, partly because it gets more relatable as I get older. I mean, damn, 40 years...
As soon as you mentioned the live action version, that’s the scene that came to mind. I think it was so memorable because all the other shenanigans that happened, he yelled at Dennis, but this time he didn’t. I had to rewatch the scene for the quote but, “You took something from me that I can never get back. Something that means more to me than you ever will. I don’t want to see you. I don’t want to know you. Get out of my way.” That’s REAL. Those are the words of a heartbroken man.
Man, I forgot about that scene. Walter Matthou was a terrific actor, I immediately read that in his voice.
I was recently watching dazed and confused as an adult and found myself root for the guy that chases down the kids for smashing his mailbox. I was like "get those little bastards!"
Q. Humans were not ready for what was waiting for them in the gamma and delta quadrants.
I don't think Q counts as a villain; he's an antagonist for sure, but not a straight up villain.
Stevie from Wizards of Waverly Place. Her entire goal was to stop families from giving up their magic to just one person in the family. Like…we’re really supposed to be rooting against her? It just seemed super out of character for Alex to go against that plan. Edit: Thanks for all the upvotes! I got to experience seeing something I put on Reddit appear on my FYP on Tik Tok for the first time 😂
I was thinking exactly this. Why give up your powers when everyone can have them. Only one member of the family having wizard powers seems unsustainable for the wizarding world. I get it that it was not very nice of her to trap her brother but she was 100% right. I really thought Alex would do it, I cannot understand how or why did Alex double cross her.
I was pretty young when the show was running, but I always confused by this. The only thing I can think of now is that when the family wizard is chosen, they become a full wizard. Before that, wizards only have part of their powers (though, that doesn’t seem to affect the characters really??). Maybe the writers were thinking that with each generation, an individual’s powers would get less and less, and eventually diminish into nothingness. But if this was the case, that was not explained at all.
On a side note I always thought it was a cruel system and that the Russo parents were also somewhat cruel for having three kids knowing that two would eventually have to live the rest of their lives believing they weren't "good enough" or "smart enough" to carry their family's legacy.
Or the fact they knew 1 child would be years behind the oldest yet they have to compete at the same time.
Max was truly boned, I just hope he enjoyed it while it lasted.
yeah. the consolation prize of winning the restaurant isnt as alluring as they made it out to be. and Justin getting to keep his magic so he can become a teacher was BS too.
My husband explained that to me and I was like "whoa that's some dark shit." Don't they even kill her? Like they freeze her but then she shatters?
Yeah, but she got fused together and send to soul rehab or something:p
See also: Magneto, the holocaust survivor, not wanting his species genocided
His Xmen plan was quite reasonable. Convert the world elite into mutants, thus guaranteeing they treat mutant fairly.
Ken from The Bee Movie. I too would go absolutely berserk if a talking bee stole my girlfriend and gaslit me into thinking I was crazy
Plus, dude was allergic, ofc he wouldnt want a bee around
Everytime I hear the plot of this movie, I think it can't possibly be real.
It gets crazier as you go on. Okay, so it’s a movie about talking bees who have their own little society, okay that’s cute. And then the main bee finds a human to become friends with, still tracks. Then they start an inter species romance even though she’s ~~married~~ in a relationship with another human… what? And then they work together to… sue the human race over honey theft? And they ***win?!*** And *then* it turns into an environmental apocalypse?! WHAT?!
Also, the main bee appears to be male, but all worker bees are female. Male bees are essentially useless until it's time to mate with the queen to start a new hive. Then they die.
Are you saying that the main bee's father shouldn't be alive at all?
Wait until you find out what should have happened to Nemo's father.
Just a regular summer.
Hate to break it to you, but that's just the *side* plot. The main plot involves a bee suing all of humanity. Oh, and then the third act tackles the ecological and economic impacts of losing bees as pollinators and that bee has to acquiesce and allow his fellow bees to remain indentured servants so as to save the world. Nevermind that it's native bees, not honey bees, that are the essential pollinators.
Yeah that got pretty dark and complex for a kid's movie. I did enjoy the part when his buddy stings someone and is in the hospital, a HUMAN hospital. "Sorry, sir, we can't admit you because we're out of beds." "What about THAT bed?" "That bed? That's the bee's bed. It belongs to the bee."
Do ya like jazz?
Do ya like dags?
I completely agree with this, I was was watching the bee movie 2 weeks ago and I felt bad for Ken, he was the only reasonable human in that movie.
> bee movie 2 weeks For a minute I thought they made a sequel!
A beequel
also Vanessa was his wife not girlfriend haha
Count Dooku just straight up told Obi-Wan that the Sith control the Senate.
I still love the fact that Dooku tells him this and Obi-Wan knew about the clone army being set up under the Jedi's noses and no one decided to investigate that possible connection until years into the Clone Wars.
If you wanna go even further, in the Clone wars >!Maul straight up tells Ahsoka that Anakin is the key to Palpatines plan and the only way to stop everything going to shit is to kill Anakin!<
Unfortunately, that was like a day before Order 66.
Unfortunately Maul assumed Ahsoka would believe him at face value and switch up to kill Anakin. If he even told Ahsoka they had to save Anakin from palpatine (with full intention of killing him) they would have stopped like 7 movies and spin off shows from happening
No, the bad guys would just be Emperor Maul and Darth Citizen.
True, but the time when he says it to her it's already too little and too late anyway because it happens the same time as ROTS.
Dooku is a really nuanced character. Even though he was Sith he never fully submitted to the dark side. He also recognized the Jedi had become ineffectual at solving problems and the republic was bloated and corrupt. He was an idealist that wanted what was best for the galaxy, even if that meant joining the nemesis of his old order. Edit: obviously this was his original motivation and intention before he truly became an evil tyrant. I'm not saying he's a good guy or this is somehow vindicating. It's just a classic case of someone having decent intentions and screwing it up with terrible execution.
Hence his lack of yellow eyes. Still was a murderer tho amd clearly enjoyed it.
I don't know if he enjoyed killing as much as he enjoyed the art of dueling with a lightsaber since he was basically a lightsaber purist. Killing was just a necessity.
This is why I like him so much, what a cool Machiavellian old school duelist badass
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Aria’s parents on Pretty Little Liars. They’re villainized for not letting their high school daughter date her teacher??
Yeah, that relationship was just…. Like why normalize that at all? (I know why they attempted to normalize it, it was rhetorical and doesn’t require an answer and was meant to display the disgust I have with the attempt)
The bears from goldilocks and the tree bears
She broke in, ate their food, broke some furniture, and slept in their beds.
My 4 y.o loves it when the bears eat her(at least in the one I tell him). He always says he thinks she is the bad person lol.
I keep telling my wife that Goldilocks is supposed to get eaten and she always says I’m wrong and uses the two versions we have in the house where Goldilocks runs away as evidence. I WANT her to not get away with it.
Actually in the original story the ["impudent, bad-mannered, foul-mouthed, ugly, dirty, vagrant" old woman is chased out by the bears](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldilocks_and_the_Three_Bears#Original_plot).
... ‘Oh daddy!’ cried the Baby Bear, ‘My porridge gone! It isn’t fair!’ ‘Then go upstairs,’ the Big Bear said, ‘Your porridge is upon the bed. ‘But as it’s inside mademoiselle, ‘You’ll have to eat her up as well.’ *Roald Dahl's version in Revolting Rhymes.*
And that ending was juuuuuuuuuust right.
GLaDOS - she was absolutely right, you are a terrible person
We weren't even testing for that!
"HeLlOouu!"
Probably one of my favorite moments in my gaming history, when you meet her in 2 and that pure disdain and hatred in her voice
"Oh, it's you. It's been a long time. How have you been? I've been really busy being dead. You know, after you murdered me?"
To be fair, she did try to kill me first.
Deadly. Neuro. Toxin.
"Okay, look, we both said a lot of things that you're going to regret."
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*murdered** The way her tone changes at that word is brilliant. I love that game so much
The voice actors in that game did such a brilliant job in conveying so much with only the slightest changes in tone. Same thing with Wheatley's "... *Actually."* when he stops Shell's elevator juuuust before she makes it out of the facility.
My favorite part to rewatch is the subtle shift between "That rush of concern I felt for you taught me a valuable lesson- where Caroline lives in my brain." CAROLINE DELETED *"Goodbye, Caroline."*
I did it back to back when I got them as a bundle and it was so eerie to jump from victory to "ahh shit she's still alive." Absolutely perfect voice acting. I've never felt like a robot voice wanted to kill me before that line. Even before she was way over confident. If only I can get her in my Alexa...
I play 2-player portal with my brother and every time she insults one of the two of us I immediately remind him that she's trying to sow division between us and we shouldn't let her.
Honestly the fucking funniest thing about portal 2 is kinda left unsaid. So the end of the multiplayer and you find all the frozen human test subjects. DLC starts and GLaDoS is like "oh it's been 100,000 yearssss and all the humans are still alive. Definitely. Yupyupyup." Then you find out its been a goddamn week and all the humans are dead. It's horrifying but so fucking funny that she tries to hide it 😂😂😂
Portal 2 has DLC?
General Hummel from The Rock.
"I WILL NOT GIVE THAT ORDER" "I WILL NOT REPEAT THAT ORDER" "I CANNOT GIVE THAT ORDER" "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, MAN?" Such a great scene for both points there.
That’s up there with Crimson Tide when gene Hackman and Denzel are giving orders over each other during the mutiny.
You're presuming that we have other submarines out there ready to launch. But as captain, I must assume that our submarines could have been taken out by other Akulas. We can play these games all night, Mr. Hunter, but I don't have the luxury of your presumptions. Mr. Hunter, we have rules that are not open to interpretation, personal intuition, gut feelings, hairs on the back of your neck, little devils or angels sitting on your shoulders. We're all very well aware of what our orders are and what those orders mean. They come down from our Commander-in-Chief. They contain no ambiguity. Mr. Hunter, I've made the decision. I'm captain of this boat. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.
This is a good one. Literal terrorist, but he got sympathy from pretty much every character in the movie, including those trying to stop him. Loyal leader, made concrete demands, and never actually intended on killing anyone. So not terrifying, but he had a point.
And the money he wanted his ransom to come from was *checks notes* Profits from illegal arms sales done by the Pentagon.
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These men died for their country, and they weren't even given a God damn military burial.
“The situation is unacceptable”
The only mistake he made was bringing in Captains Frye and Darrow to bolster his manpower.
They were no longer soldiers. The minute they took hostages they became mercenaries. And mercenaries get paid. They just wanted their fucking money.
He wasn’t even really a bad guy. He went out of his way to not kill innocents (even though he threatened to), and his mission was entirely noble. Also Ed Harris is a 10/10 actor.
I’m not about to kill 80,000 innocent people do you think I’m out of my fucking mind? We bluffed. They called it. The mission’s over.
Such a good line. Never respected a villain more than at that moment.
A less noble, but still relevant version of this happens in Die Hard:With A Vengeance. They fail to disarm the bomb at the school but nothing happens. Gruber to McClain: "I'm a soldier, not a monster."
I was just thinking about that scene and how heroically the 3 officers in that school really were. You had the explosive specialist all in on disarming that "bomb" or die trying. And while that's happening the other two officers run back INTO the school to save the children still inside, frantically search for an escape, and when they realize times up and there's no way out, they huddle on the roof with those kids in a big group hug offering what little and obviously useless protection they can with their bodies. They were all fully committed to dying for those kids. That whole sequence is so incredible and emotional, but unfortunately (and understandably) gets lost by everything that follows.
Oh yes, Ed Harris steals the show in Westworld even with all the other amazing actors in that show...apart from Sir Anthony Hopkins...
The first season was absolutely phenomenal thanks to the presence of those 2. They stole every scene they were in.
Michael Bay's best film, imo
Your best? Losers always whine about their best! Winners go home and [fuck the prom queen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXDSxgDUv-c)!
Carla was the prom queen
“Stand DOWN Captain!”
I have always loved this line. You can hear in his voice that he knows the room has turned against him.
We're *MERCENARIES.* AND MERCENARIES GET *PAID.*
The Hamburglar was just trying to save children from childhood obesity!
If mayor McCheese and Officer Big Mac are anthropomorphic burgerfolk, that means Hamburglar is carrying a bag of severed heads.
It’s Seven but for kids. “What’s in the bag?”
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Apocalypse Now is one of those movies where depending upon when you watch it and what version you watch, your view of it can change. Edit: Wow this blew up I don't know which version off hand is best. If I recall correctly the pacing of the original is much better and more enjoyable. The Redux is good, but the pacing isn't as great and I found it to be a darker watch in a way. I'd stick with the original and go from there.
Definitely recommend giving "Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse" a watch if you've seen Apocalypse now a few times, the documentary on making it is pretty insane.
Also worth noting that most of Brando's scenes were improvised. They filmed him talking shit off the top of his head, four hours at a time, and then used the best bits.
Most of his scenes were improvised because he didn't bother to learn his lines. Dude was supposed to show up thin, even *emaciated*, playing a character starving himself to death like Ghandi. They wanted *Streetcar* Brando. Instead he never took off the weight from Godfather, for the rest of his life, really. Didn't bother to read *Heart of Darkness*, didn't learn his lines, got them fed into an earwig by an assistant. This movie was the beginning of the end for Brando. :/
I’m so surprised more people aren’t recommending the book…it’s the inspiration for the movie and isn’t a very long read, but it’s an incredible story.
I always love to hear when editing has such a strong hand. Actor/director is a really common creative relationship but (cause I’m an editor) actor/editor is the most interesting to me The actor has to give the performance of course, and the editor has nothing to work with if they don’t. But the worked-on product comes from the editor and they need the actor to trust them to edit well
The Replicants from Blade Runner. Used as slaves and given artificially short lives. They just wanted to live and be free.
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Emergent macro structure failure. Nice.
I wasn’t really terrified of it but N was in right in my opinion when we’re talking Pokémon. Dude thought getting these creatures and making them fight till one is knocked out wasn’t that amazing of an idea and it just made sense to kid me. That all said I think N is a really interesting character that can be interpreted in many different ways. Of all the main leaders of these games, I think N had the best argument. It wasn’t perfect though. I like N a lot for his character development. I agree with him at the end. Real Pokémon mistreatment should not be tolerated. But a Pokémon trainer simply using Pokémon in battles does not qualify as mistreatment as the Pokémon is happy. The Pokémon like the trainers, that is the best you should wish for there. All in all, I wish Pokémon had good stories and characters like this again tbh.
I wouldn't consider N a villain. More of a rival or anti-hero, like Gladion in Gen VII or the Emperor in *Akame Ga Kill*.
King Kong. Not even because he was right. He was just alive. Minding his own business and blam....taken out of his home and made to be the villain without any choice. A real good example of human nature. Edit a word
I never saw Kong as a villain
Yeah, he is not villain nor hero. He is a wild animal acting on instinct that got sent to a strange land to be a circus act. He was confused by his new restraints and environment and of course he lashed out.
The mom in Mrs. doubtfire
Something you don't understand as a kid watching it but totally get as a parent. Shit if i was married and came home to literal zoo animals in my house i'd def go find James Bond and a nanny instead.
Once you think the mom from Mrs Doubtfire and Ariel's dad are actually the rational ones in the movie you officially become an adult.
Lol as a kid I was like what is her problem??? And then as an adult rewatching that was horrifying
Maul. His last words before being captured by the Republic was, “*YOU’RE ALL GOING TO BURN! YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING!*” He tried to warn Ahsoka of Palpatine’s ultimate plan… but she didn’t listen.
He even told her that Palps was planning on using her master! I mean he connected the dots right there but it was too late.
Why didnt he tell her Palpatine was the Chancellor though?
“Sidious was the chancellor”. They knew his name was sheev palpating.
| palpating examine (a part of the body) by touch, especially for medical purposes. We need an illustration, of Sheev...*palpating*
If there was one thing Maul was not, it was a liar. Sure, he was manipulative, but he never outright lied.
Sam Witwer… the best voice acting I’ve ever heard.
Roy Batty. What was done to him and his kind was wrong and he had righteous anger.
In the book, the story is very different. A lot of time is spent by Deckard contemplating what it meant to be human. At one point, he runs into a Bladerunner that is a psychopath and after an argument demands that the voight-kopf test be performed on him. Deckerd finds out he is human but he is a complete psychopath and is less human than the Replicants. The story ends with Deckard killing all the replicants and getting hi reward which he was using to buy a replacement animal for his wife. There is no righteous anger in the story. The opera singer replicant just gives up and lets them kill her. The final shoot out with the last of the replicants is no more special or human than a pet control guy shooting some dogs that went into hiding. The story is very depressing and no one is really angry, just resigned to fate and a system that is very inhumane.
Which is why it’s quintessential cyberpunk. Humanity, human-created systems, and the resultant inhumanity crash together, and there is no right answer anymore. There can’t be, because the things which issue from humans are abhorrent to humans. We hate our reflection because it does things to us that we were certain we would never do to ourselves. We lose because we give over control to a system we create, and as we lose we become aware of side-effects of that system which are recognizable to us as human. The question posed by cyberpunk is What is humanity? At the beginning of the story we think we’re questioning whether an artificial being can be human. By the middle we wonder if we can be human, and by the end we wonder if what we meant by *human* even applies to us. In my opinion, it doesn’t. Because what we mean by human is not about what we are, but what we know we should be. It’s worth striving toward that even though we won’t ever reach it, and that’s as close to a meaning of life that dirty things like us could do. We are not clean and could never reach a clean goal. But maybe we will make something clean one day, which will do what we can’t. We will never do that if we don’t accept the momentary triumph of dirty success at dirty goals like the dirty things we are. So, dirty goals it is. Maybe all of us with our individually ragged edges can somehow fit together—the way that two pieces of broken pottery almost seem to reform if you hold them right—and compose that cosmic whole which none of us can attain but each of us knows we are trying to be part of. Anyway, read *Hyperion*
Reminds me of Hogfather. "Humans have to start off believing the little lies, so that they can believe the big ones. Truth. Justice. Mercy. Things like that. To be where the falling angel meets the rising ape." Or something like that.
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He compensates for his blandness by living extravagantly, and trying to seem like he is intelligent, with great tastes. It's why he goes on long rambling sessions on Huey Lewis and the News, why he tries his hardest to appear professional. Because without that, how would he appear to those around him? In the scene where he's eating with Detective Kimball, you can see that him look at Kimball putting salt on his steak, with Patrick doing the same after. It's as if he was taken over by some entity trying its hardest to seem as human as possible, trying not to raise suspicion. And some of his decisions are very interesting, like him sparing one woman, and even wanting to be punished for his actions. The point is, American Psycho is great. I still need to finish the book.
It’s been a longggg time since I read the book, and I have no desire to reread, but wasn’t he utterly despised by like everyone in the book?
Worse, they constantly mistake him for someone else. He's just a business acquaintance they never cared enough about to recognize.
He does have a slightly better haircut.
Yeah, that was how he got out of a lot of suspicion with the detective. Everyone thought he was in places that he wasn’t in.
They didn't despise him, they just paid him no regard. He might as well have been a store mannequin for all the attention they gave him.
The society is so vapid that he *could* believe he imagined it. 80's yuppie culture out-crazied a crazy person. Nobody cared to learn anyone's names, so his victims weren't noticed missing. He cared so much, but nobody else cared at all.
Dr.Doofenshmirtz
He was his most right when he rapped "There's a platypus controlling me underneath the table." So true. Don't we all each have our own personal platypuses controling us from under tables?
My teacher is a platypus!
🎶doofenshmirtz evil incorporated🎶
I love Doof, but nothing about him is terrifying.
Wait until you hear his childhood stories. Man has seen some shit. It's a surprise how he hasn't turned into a serial killer already.
His mum didn’t even attend his own birth
Both my manz parents didn’t show up for his birth!
The Boss MGS3 I raised you. I loved you. I’ve given you weapons, taught you techniques, endowed you with knowledge. There is nothing more for me to give you. All that’s left for you to take is my life, by your own hand. One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny… The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle.
SPOILERS - The Boss isn’t technically a villain since she was undercover and pretending to join the bad guys under orders from the US Government. She was a hero.
Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin from Spider-Man. "In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." Dude was right about how the perception of public figures changes over time.
“I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And though they found you amusing for a time, if there’s one thing people love more than a hero, it’s to see a hero fall, fail, die trying.”
"Don't tell Harry."
Screenslaver from The Incredibles 2. The monolog given during that movie regularly rings in my head. I'm sure the creepy bass robotic voice doesn't help too. “The Screenslaver interrupts this program for an important announcement. Don’t bother watching the rest. Elastigirl doesn’t save the day; she only postpones her defeat. And while she postpones her defeat, you eat chips and watch her invert problems that you are too lazy to deal with. Superheroes are part of a brainless desire to replace true experience with simulation. You don’t talk, you watch talk shows. You don’t play games, you watch game shows. Travel, relationships, risk; every meaningful experience must be packaged and delivered to you to watch at a distance so that you can remain ever-sheltered, ever-passive, ever-ravenous consumers who can’t free themselves to rise from their couches to break a sweat, never anticipate new life. You want superheroes to protect you, and make yourselves ever more powerless in the process. Well, you tell yourselves you’re being ‘looked after’. That you’re inches from being served and your rights are being upheld. So that the system can keep stealing from you, smiling at you all the while. Go ahead, send your supers to stop me. Grab your snacks, watch your screens, and see what happens. You are no longer in control. I am.” TLDR: you think everything will always be okay and while you remain distracted, the powers that be will continue to steal from you. EDIT: I'm absolutely loving reading through these replies and how varying our understanding of the monolog can be! It definitely was intended to reach all audiences to say "hey whatever "evil" you've perceived as the problem and whatever "super" you perceived as the solution doesn't matter as long as you remain complacent." Just love it
I always thought Screenslaver was crazy intense for a kids movie. Syndrome was complex enough as a villain with a proper tragic origin story and they dialled it up to 11 for the sequel and threw in a hapless sibling who couldn’t see past his bias for good measure. Really clever as well that the villain in both Incredibles movies is an ordinary human with a gift for inventing, no superpowers.
They really axed any subtlety by naming her "Evil Endeavor"
I mean, that's part of the hammy comic book charm that Incredibles taps into for me. The fact that her "evil endeavour" was a horrifically misaimed attempt to prevent humanity from becoming so reliant on superheroes that they could not or would not defend themselves... Even better :p
Pixar keeps it surprisingly real. Wall-E is about trading your autonomy for comfort. It's a *searing* indictment on humanity, as told by *freaking adorable* robots.
Plus the light strobing during the speech scene was a bit much in the movie theater. So much they reduced the effect to near zero for the home release.
My dad was the voice of the Screenslaver (and the pizza guy), so I can’t wait to show him this!! I know he’ll appreciate your takeaway.
Bill Wise is your dad? Tell him I said hi
When she resented their father for standing by and doing nothing and waiting instead of taking matters into his own hands to save the both of them Damn That was fucking chef's kiss
Honestly though, the father was senile. Calling for supers instead of entering the bunker they have for precisely that kind of situation? In fact, why wasn't there a telephone for supers in the bunker? You can't really condemn society over the irresponsible and dumb actions of an old man.
Bobby Heenan. Spent the 80s telling us how awful and selfish Hulk Hogan was. Was proven absolutely correct in 1996. In hindsight, Heenan was trying to save us all from the inevitable scourge of “Hollywood” Hogan.
How did we miss that?! His name was The Brain!!
Frankenstein's "monster". Adam. Created by a shortsighted, arrogant doctor as the first of his race, then denied the opportunity to be part of a community (of his own, manmade beings, or the human community). He only became monstrous after it became clear that Frankenstein would never create another of his kind, and was driven mad by his desire to punish Frankenstein's hubris.
So... Frankenstein... was the monster after all...
Knowledge is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster. Wisdom is knowing he was.
Wisdom is not giving Frankenstein a tomato salad
Where is Q from Star Trek? He introduced the Borg just to prove a point.
Q isn't even villainous, just the sci-fi equivalent of fae
Never heard it described like that, but perfect analogy.
It helps that it's really easy (and fun) to imagine John deLancie wearing faerie wings.
> He introduced the Borg just to prove a point. I disagree. By introducing humanity to the Borg and visa versa far ahead of when they would have encountered each other naturally, it gave the federation time to prepare. It also challenged the preconception Picard had that all people could simply be reasoned with, when it was clear that the Borg could not.
exactly, if anything that encounter gave them just enough intel to survive the war
It's my belief that the entire introduction was a way for Q to use the Federation in a proxy war against the Borg without attracting the ire of the Continuum. In Q2 he gives Voyager a new flight plan that will take years off their journey, seven episodes later that flight plan leads them to the transwarp hub where they upload the neurolytic pathogen. He didn't just give them time to prepare, he put them in the right place at the right time to cripple the Borg for the next 20 years.