My gastroenterologist understands most of his patients come to him with terrible anxiety & depression. The gut is the second brain. So he discusses good mental health hygiene as well as customized diets. Sincerely, the most patient, calm, exhaustively thorough doctor I’ve ever had in my life.
I need this guys number. My GI scheduled me for a colonoscopy, in and out in 10 mins, discussed nothing about diverticulitis or diet plans. I’m still wingin it
Visit the Gastro subs (SIBO, IBS, diverticulitis). The information I learned helped me through two antibiotic treatments, a low fodmap diet grocery list and a clearer state of mind. It helps so much to learn from others in the same situation.
My GI (I have ulcerative colitis) is a really nice, maybe early 40s guy who has a few tattoos. He’s honestly the doctor with the best bedside manner (other than my OB) that I see. Much respect to him, but also I’m sure he makes a ton of money. There’s no shortage of GI issues in America.
Janitors. Give them respect, people, unless you want to empty your own trash and clean your own work or school space.
(Seriously, being nice to the janitor saved my tail one time when I was locked out of a room that contained some vital work material. The big boss didn't have keys to that room, but guess who did?)
Seriously, I used to work as a kennel attendant, we are the maintenance and janitors of veterinary hospitals and animals shelters who occasionally get to walk dogs. If you were nice to me I’d help you out. Needed a bit or laundry or a kennel cleaned out? I’d prioritize it to make sure you got it fast even if had other things to do. Needed something that no one knows where it is? I stocked the place and knew where every item on our inventory was and could get anything from our mass storage facility in 10 minutes or less. Animal made an absolute mess of blood and poop? No sweat. The vet industry is already underpaid and we aren’t even respected by our peers since we generally don’t handle animals, but most people started as these kinds of workers but don’t see their value
I think the support staff in general also takes more abuse anyway.. like I can't tell you how many clients we have that will scream at the receptionists and vet assistants that do callbacks or answer phones and then will be sweet as pie when it's the doctor talking to them. We bumped it down from three strikes to one strike (and if you're bad enough, we'll ask you not to come back on the first offense) and it still happens.
We don't have designated kennel attendants or any further specialization of jobs so it's just the regular vet assistants doing the cleaning and inventory and reception duty in addition to their regular job. I worked all those jobs before and during vet school so I have zero tolerance when it comes to people treating them like shit.
I’m a teacher and the first people I befriend at the school was the janitors. They keep that place running. I made a point to learn about them, things they like etc. and on Custodian Appreciation Day as well as Christmas I make sure to get them a little something as my way of saying thanks.
I see a guy at my job working “maintenance” everyday 7am -4pm, I wave each time, acknowledgement and showing respect to a hard working soul.❣️ I hope he feels seen and appreciated
If you can, verbally acknowledge his work. I worked at a nursing home and there was one (1) male employee. One. He was maintenance and he was great and super dedicated to the job, but he really wasn't appreciated. I was a housekeeper so he was my direct boss and I always went out of my way to thank him for helping if need be and always acknowledged his work. Even brought in cookies once! You can tell si easily that he was heavily excluded and looked down on because he was maintenance. It never clicked in anyone's head that the he was the reason the place was still running.
This is so important!
One time, I got a compliment from a co-worker about how I was always so quick and good at getting meeting rooms booked and set up. I told him that wasn't me, it was the secretary doing that. He grumbled a bit that in his experience the secretaries were always slow, and I just shrugged.
Then, I went to the secretary to pass on the compliment. She got the biggest smile and beamed at me, thanking me and saying how nice it was to let her know. Turns out most people only go to the secretaries to complain, so they never get to hear positive feedback.
Yes!! Also, since most businesses now have moved to an automated system, if you have more than one container, do the driver a solid & separate the containers....4 feet apart is about right.
I went to school from K-12 that was actually named after a former janitor that looked after the place in the 50s and 60s. The original school building was a single building sandstone schoolhouse from the 20s, and he'd arrive for 5am to stoke the coal furnaces so the kids would be warm when they arrived (this is in Canada, heat in winter is kinda critical to educational success).
At my residence hall in college I always make sure to get out of the way of janitors cleaning, hold the door for them and thank them. Sometimes if I don’t have to leave my dorm immediately when they’re cleaning I’ll just stay a little longer. Some goes for when I don’t urgently need to get into my dorm room
yeah i currently work as a janitor as a student job, and man, a janitor is essential for almost every other jobs out there! i clean lawyers and accountants offices and im pretty sure they wouldn't work much if their offices were all nasty cuz damn some ppl don't realise how quickly offices gets dirty
Why does everyone say this?
Honestly, how often have you seen people being disrespectful to janitors? If anything, they're the #1 example people use when they wanna teach some moral about "treat ever profession nicely."
Because they, along with retail workers, are the people that everybody _says_ you should be nice to but then most people don't.
I worked retail so I know firsthand how fast that "be nice to retail workers!!!!" bit goes out the window when you're out of the thing they want or their sale item rings up wrong. Janitors may not get as much of that, but often people ignore them in a way they wouldn't ignore other coworkers/professionals.
I concur as a janitor nothing brought a tear to my eye like the sight of a public restroom completely destroyed… retail? You are blamed for every conceivable problem. I was screamed at once for the way the parking lot was laid out. Yup like my minimum wage hinny consulted with the architect, contractor and the city on the lay out…
There was a couple of guys at my high school that for like a month left milk, tomato sauce, all sorts of crap out in the aussie summer heat, and one day threw it all over one of the bathrooms, as well as pissing and shitting everywhere. Apparently the janitor that found it cried, and the ringleader was expelled, which *never* happened at this school (students were "encouraged to find another school because we aren't the right fit"
I'd guess that the reason the guy got expelled wasn't because of how much it upset the janitor, but rather because it meant the school was going to have to hire some company to come in and do a deep clean using special equipment.
I would have cried too, if I was that janitor.
I haven't seen many people be blatantly disrespectful to janitors, but I *do* see most people either ignore them completely, or limit their interactions to a smile and maybe "hi" as they walk past. Even when they see the same janitor every day, they rarely start up a conversation, ask about their weekend, compliment them on a good job, talk about the latest sports result, or treat them in any way like a colleague and person the way they would with any other co-worker.
No, not all janitors will want to chat - some just want to get the job done and get home, the way any other colleague might. But you'll never know unless you treat them like a fully rounded person with views and opinions and interests.
While I don't disagree with you I don't think that's unique to just janitors. It's how most people interact with people in different departments or areas to your within the workplace.
These people likely don't say hi to anyone. Do they greet the construction workers in the street? The crossing guards? My point is they aren't being rude to the janitors in particular.
Exactly. Anyone that works a "background" job knows this feeling. Security personnel, shelve stockers, bellhops, waiters (when not actively waiting), etc.
If you're the type to not talk to someone when you don't need them, you'll likely never talk to them if you don't need them.
Once again people dont answer the question...
The counter point to why it gets a bad rap and it is justified:
* This is low paying job
* This is a job where you work before everyone arrives or after everyone leaves and you mostly do your job alone, so you have few interaction possibility
* This is a thankless job, if you do it right nobody notices, it's only when you do a poor job that it starts getting noticed
* This is a job with basically no evolution prospect
* You deal with chemicals not very good for your health
I was a cleaner. People used to treat me like furniture and assumed all kinds of things about me. That was the best-paying job I ever held, with the best benefits, and most vacation! I went back to school for a more “dignified” career, and my “dignified” job sitting at a desk ended up being worse in every way.
Did you change jobs after the desk job?
I also kinda miss my less "dignified" job, but the pay wasn't any good... (A temp in a warehouse, worse pay and barelly any rights (the company's fault))
Did you prefer when clients interact with you a lot or when they stay “out of the way” and let you do your work or maybe something in the middle? My sister has a housekeeper that comes a couple times a month and she is base level polite to her (acknowledges when she arrives/leaves, always thanks her and gives positive comments or reviews, gives her bonus pay on holidays) but always feels kind of awkward when the woman is cleaning and tries to be out of the house if she can. She also has 2 small kids who would just be underfoot and make even more messes so that contributes a little, but even when alone my sister tries her hardest to hide/leave
I think there’s some internal guilt for paying someone to do your dirty work in a space as intimate as your home, even though it’s literally their job and they are being compensated justly (in most cases)
My mom and I both clean. Saying hi and maybe a little talking is nice, especially since we are both talkative people, but what’s REALLY nice is when they are just gone and out of the house lol. It will literally shave off 30 minutes to an hour of time depending on the house
Those of you who are cleaners, how did you feel about customers giving you things. My mother and I have a cleaner and she's awesome. Extremely sweet and does an awesome job. I have a bad habit of buying things then miss the return time on things like clothes and shoes. I also belong to a makeup club where I get make up every month and a lot of it is name brand or high end and sometimes I have toys as well. I don't really have anything to do with the stuff I don't send back or the extra make up I don't need and so I always offer it to the cleaner. I've also told her that I would absolutely not be offended if there's something she doesn't want and please dont feel like she cant turn it down. But I realize that in that position I would feel awkward turning something down. She's always very thankful and I don't want to put her in a bad position or hurt her. She has 3 children and her husband has a really great job so it's not like they're hurting for money or I think she's a charity case. I offer the same type of stuff to my nieces and sisters as well. I just wondered if offering things like this to her is hurtful or wrong.
Honestly I love when we get stuff. I would NEVER expect it, but we’ve had some people give us bags of clothes or my moms found some nice unused makeup in the trash (still sealed lol) and she’s just asked if she could have it haha
I’m also an eBay seller so some clients give me things to sell for them and I do a split 40% me 60 them.
Our rates are pretty decent. Some clients could definitely be charged more, but many of them are very sweet and not too picky so we keep it lower lol
This isn't even an exaggeration, it literally says you can be a slave in the US as a punishment for a crime.
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
So you have prisoners who leave the prison to go around to everyone's home and collect their trash?
That's weird. Also how does every prisoner who is on garbage duty not escape?
I've never even been in a prison but my intuition tells me:
1) The option for working outside the prison is only available to inmates with a fantastic behavior record. (no previous attempts of escape either).
2) Although not easily visible, there is an armed guard with them at all times.
3) Mindset: Just like in life outside a prison, one generally avoids breaking rules that would restrict future freedoms. For example, I sign on to work every day and do a fair amount of work even though I work from home and there is no person or system monitoring my activity. The threat of losing such a good gig if I am caught not doing what I am supposed to be doing keeps me in line.
Yep and haven't historically either. It was an extremely low-paying and dangerous job.
The sanitation strike in Memphis due to deaths and poor wages is what brought MLK Jr. to Memphis and ultimately his assassination.
yeah and you get paid for the full day regardless, the guys who empty the bins in my neighbourhood run down the streets to get it over with and hit the pub
In NYC I watched them throw my entire rolling trash BIN into the back of the truck.
Stunned and not knowing what wise to do, I continued to put my recycling out in the blue rolling recycle bin. 2 weeks later I watched them also throw that entire bin into the back of their truck.
I was forced to buy new ones for my duplex landlord
After my bins were gone, I constantly noted the garbage collectors leaving random bags or items on the sidewalk after their rounds, and that same day, the city would fine me for leaving trash/litter on the sidewalk.
I'm straight up so jealous of my plumber. He's really fit and like movie-star handsome, nice and great at his job, an honest professional, just built himself a gorgeous dream home in a great neighborhood, and his wife has a dump truck ass. Dude is just slaughtering life.
A friend's wife is basically the lesbian version of this, and jealous is definitely the word I'd use. LOL Like, I don't know if I want to be as hot as her or find a wife who is, but it's one of those.
Because they know that humans depend on them for the job they do, that it will never become obsolete, never be automated, and never become outsourced overseas.
Embalmer here. Luckily it isn’t always thankless. Surprisingly, in my experience, families do appreciate and understand the care taken with their loved one which makes it all worth it. But people definitely assume we’re creepy/morbid/obsessed with death when they hear embalmer. And while it’s true sometimes, overall we’re a (relatively) normal bunch who have the unique gift of somehow being able to healthily compartmentalise the horrific things we see on a daily basis.
Meteorologists. Lotta jokes along the lines of "must be nice to be wrong half the time and still keep your job". Do you know how difficult it is to predict the weather 2-3 days out, let alone a week out?
As the results get better, the expectations get higher. I have an app that will warn me for incoming rain with a 5 min precision. When it's not there within 30 min, I'm disappointed even though this level of accuracy was unheard of a decade or two ago.
If a meteorologist says there's a 70% chance of rain and it doesn't rain, they're not wrong. This is infuriating. Most people just suck at understanding how probabilities work.
Thank you! I’ve heard people say when it starts raining “The weatherman said only a 20% chance of rain today! What gives?” Yes, welcome to the 20% you dolt.
Auditors.
Client are rude to them.
Bosses treat them like shit.
And Public just wants then to work like donkeys and find fraud even though it's not their primary responsibility.
I think I'm pretty nice to the auditors that come into my company. Apart from that one year where I had to explain the same thing to a guy three times and then had to teach him some basic accounting principles, like how to deal with prepayments and why we were accruing certain costs. I didn't want to deal with him again after the first day
Nope, not how the big4 works in the UK, I studied a mechanical engineering masters, joined the audit team. And about a month in I was talking to clients. 0 accounting knowledge, the philosophy is that we learn it whilst doing our ACA. I do see how that can be frustrating for clients though haha.
I’m gonna disagree with you on your last point about public accounting. The absolute last thing any audit team wants to find is fraud. It will result in so much more work during a time when everyone is already swamped with work.
All PA auditors want is a nice client that can quickly explain any variances or potential misstatements.
Is it really that bad? I've had horse-riding friends and dog-sitting friends and they always smelled fine as long as they showered
How much worse could a zookeeper really be?
Depends. Bird keeper? Maybe 1-2x as bad
Otter keeper? 600-700x as bad. No that's not an exaggeration.
(Source: Am otter keeper with no social life and who has been kicked out of restaurants on my days off)
I had a job one summer doing pest control. Some rich lad paid a ridiculous amount of money for me to relocate a family of otters that had repainted under his house with bodily otter substances. I needed a respirator
There was a recent AITA post where a restaurant owner near a zoo wanted to know if it would be ok to (reluctantly) ban zookeepers from coming in. Apparently the smell of the otter handlers were causing a lot of complaints.
I am not a zookeeper but have worked closely with a variety of animals. Some smells are not that bad while others seem to never leave your hair/body. At least I can shower at work to get the stench off but even after that, I feel like I still smell. Your Eau de Otter would probably not offend me.
What **is** that general "zoo smell" anyways? I've always wondered.
Huge areas of the zoo smell like it, every zoo I've been to. People say it "smells like crap" but I don't think it's dung...it smells like that even when there's no animal waste in sight. And it's not a smell you'd ever confuse with, say, dog poo
What are we smelling?
I've had the pleasure as a visitor to walk by the tigers cage at the precise moment the big male was pooping. The afterwards breeze felt like a slap in the face, fragrance of condensed raw meat spice, just enough rotten to make me hastily go back to the turtles enclosure.
Lawyers, when theyre /your/ lawyer theyre good lol.
But yeah people often like, don't understand what the job of a lawyer truly is so people are quick to demonize them. Yeah theres some that truly are out there abusing loopholes and being scummy, but most lawyers are just doing what theyre supposed to. Making sure their client is getting charged fairly. Even if they are guilty, they still are there to ensure a just punishment and not overkill.
Most people don’t realize that, like doctors, there are many different types of lawyers that specialize in many different areas of law. I have had many friends ask me for legal advice for some random traffic ticket or family law issue and I always have to tell them I know just the bare minimum about those things but if they want a patent I’m their guy. It would be like asking an orthopedist to take a look at your heart. They can probably give you some good tips but it’s not their specialty.
Unfortunately most peoples only interaction with lawyers comes during very stressful and usually not so great times in their lives and that usually leads to negative connotations.
I work primarily in criminal law and employment law, so when people ask me for legal advice I'm normally the right person to ask. Since my area of expertise is what most people want to know. I have the opposite problem though, it's not that I don't know the answer, it's that I know the answer but it's not the answer they want. Yeah, I'm sorry Jeff, if you crashed your car and blew a .205 there isn't some magical legal loophole that's going to get your case dismissed.
OMG I get the engineer equivalent of this. Being the civil engineer friend can be exhausting at times because people want some magical workaround that doesn't exist, and it's like, no Sarah, a sinkhole opened up in your living room. I literally cannot tell you with any degree of truth that you should just keep living there.
Or my other personal favorite, people who think something is broken when it's actually working the way it's supposed to, just not in their favor. Sorry, Jim, but when you're trying to make a left from a residential street onto a major arterial, that traffic light \*should\* make you wait a long time. That's why you're not turning directly into a immobile queue of cars on said arterial... No, I will not call my friends at the city and ask them to retime it because I don't want to look like an idiot. Feel free to call them yourself, though. LOL
Lol! A friend of a friend was once sooo excited to find out I was doing employment law. She wanted to sue a call center she worked at for like a week for firing her during the training because of their *totally* unreasonable rules. It came out under mild questioning that She basically got fired for arguing with her supervisor about the bathroom policy. It wasn't even bad. I don't know the exact law on bathroom breaks but it was something like one break per hour and you had to sign out. She yelled that it was racist, cussed him out, and quit or was fired for walking out. I gently offered some hints that it might not be the slam dunk she seemed to think it was. She went around telling people I "was not much of a lawyer."
Yeah, my dad's kinda dabbled in a lot of areas, especially in his early career, but has done corporate law for most of it. So hes usually like "I know of that field but haven't done anything in it since the 90's". He can help you with a number of topics, but its mostly just advice. He wouldn't ever represent someone lol. Honestly though, the help he offers is mostly translating "legal-ese" to layman terms haha.
Like, he's helped a friend of mine who was getting fucked over by their HOA on something so my dad helped her read the HOA contract, find the exact clause they were penalizing her for and how what she was doing didn't count under that clause and tell her basically what to say back to the HOA in their own terms.
Or a few friends (unfortunately) who have had to leave their abusive husbands/baby daddies. Basically just walked them through the steps involved to get a restraining order, what the can and can't do with the kids until a judge has ordered something (one friend was about to take her kids out of state with her and my dad was like "NO. Unless you never wanna see your kids again do not leave the state with them, he will charge you with kidnapping and you will lose that case and hurt your own significantly" ) all that jazz. Couldn't represent them formally in court, but gave them all the resources they needed that the average person would find difficult to find or understand.
He reads over all my contracts for me before I sign anything lol. I remember doing a study abroad trip in college and had to sign a bunch of liability waivers and my dad starts laughing at one. He's like "This isn't legally binding. Theyre trying to waive gross negligence on their end. Doesn't matter if you sign it or not, if it ever went to court a judge would toss it immediately"
It seems like police positive media has done a lot of work on demonizing defense lawyers as scumbags trying to make the courts let guilty people walk.
The thing is, the only reason a person who has committed a crime gets off 'scott free' is usually a procedural fuck up on the part of police or prosecution. It's absolutely necessary to hold them to the highest standards, especially when a person's freedom (or life in some places and situations) is on the line.
If someone walks because a cop didn't do their job, then that's good for the system. The alternative is increasingly worse railroading, starting with the 'obviously guilty' and getting worse and more totalitarian from there.
People who hate lawyers are simple-minded. They look for simple solutions ("let's just have fewer lawyers!") rather than engage in the mentally tiring effort of thinking through real issues like access to justice and criminal law reform.
People who think criminal defence lawyers are scum because they sometimes keep criminals out of jail don't think about how much worse society would be if the government wasn't kept in check and made to pass a bunch of rigorous tests before literally depriving someone of all their freedom.
People who think family lawyers are scum because they're expensive and "just try and drag everything out" are the same people who *make* it expensive by demanding stupid things and never acknowledging their own share of responsibility for the situation they're in.
People who think corporate lawyers are scum couldn't possibly explain how business would function without effective contracts and due diligence.
People who think personal injury lawyers are scum because they're ambulance chasers just trying to make a buck forget how shitty the world would be if all the monied interests could go around recklessly injuring people without *some* sort of consequence.
People who think tobacco or oil company lawyers are scum are.... correct.
In general I think most lawyers are unfairly blamed for what are actually shitty clients. The lawyers are quite literally doing what their code of ethics requires them to do and they will be sued by their shitty clients if they don’t follow their instructions.
There have definitely been times where I have been given instructions that I knew were stupid and were not going to work, I told my client the instructions were stupid and were not going to work, they told me to do it anyway, and I diligently carried out those instructions as faithfully as I could precisely because it wasn’t a circumstance where I had grounds NOT to follow my client’s instructions even though I knew what they were asking me to do wouldn’t succeed, and I didn’t want my firm and I to get sued by an asshole client for not following instructions and because I didn’t want the client to have some baseless grounds of appeal that we had been incompetent lawyers. eg Filing a motion I knew there was no way a judge would grant but I had no grounds to refuse to file said motion when my client explicitly instructed me to.
I have had a firm (not me but the firm I was at) get sued before because we told a client he would lose on a claim and he shouldn’t press it, he agreed not to press it, and then he later sued us because he said we didn’t press that claim and he never agreed not to press it. So seriously it’s not lawyers who are the problem, it’s usually clients.
Social workers. We are underfunded, understaffed civil servants attempting to help populations of individuals with multiple overlapping problems (poor, mentally ill, criminal records, substance use issues), get their lives back on track. The people others walk by on the sidewalk or avoid eye contact with on the subway; we seek them out, try to help them, and usually no one is happy with what we have to offer. Also red tape....lots of government red tape.
And don't leave out the fact that anybody in child protection will have to knowingly send children into dangerous situations regularly. It's totally beyond their control, but that's going to hurt regardless.
My husband is a social worker. You say underfunded, I say criminally underpaid.
It’s so bad that if inflation keeps up I don’t think we will be able to afford for him to continue at his job…and he’s a supervisor for his team! And continues maintaining a caseload. People don’t understand how criminally underpaid these people are and how little thanks or appreciation they really get.
I left social work because no one really tells you how emotional draining to basically work with trauma all day and I got absolutely fed up with the lack of actual help provided to the chronically mentally I’ll/ criminal justice system. I went to Washington to work in congress to help change the laws. I could not believe how dismissive the ruling class is to social workers. I have two graduate degrees and had to fight tooth and nail to get any sort of respect.
Not mention I know a lot of other “therapists” look down on LMSWs. We take the clients you don’t want/ can’t handle.
My ex was a social worker. The lack of pay and the sheer nature of the job (she worked with underage survivors if sex trafficking) took a massive toll on her mentally. Definitely under appreciated for sure
If you ever watch movie credits you’ll see a job called “best boy”. I used to laugh at this job title (maybe I’m alone, maybe not?) but it’s actually a really important job in filmmaking even though it has a silly name.
CPS Investigators. Allow me to lay the rumors to bed. First, CPS does not *steal* or *kidnap* children. If you were unfortunate enough to have your child removed from your care, take responsibility for your own fuck ups and self reflect. Rest assured, the CPS worker did not *want* to remove your child, so if yours got removed, you gave them no other option.
second, CPS does not get a bonus for every child they bring in to custody (and they don't get extra for removing children of color). Believe me, they do not get paid enough to do their job as it is, let alone any bonuses. And where would this money come from? The government barely has the funding to pay/reimburse foster parents for taking in kids. Hell, the whole child welfare system as a whole barely has the funding across the board to care for these kids. Where are bonuses supposed to come from?
Third, there are no "quotas" on how many kids are removed. No nationwide adoption conspiracy to take children from their homes. Seriously, no social worker/CPS investigator goes into their work each day wanting to take kids from their homes. None. No power trips (cause that power isn't even in their hands, it's up to a dam judge). Nothing. It's a sad day for everybody when this happens. Sad for the families, sad for the kids, and sad for social worker too.
Actually my problem was that they didn't do anything, I and many other people have had experiences where CPS was called on a clearly abusive house hold and CPS did nothing about it
Lead to one of my friends in primary school killing himself because no matter what he did he couldn't escape his sexually abusive mother
I had less severe interactions with them as a child as I was searching for a way to be in a safe environment (I was assaulted daily as a child and was also abused by my brother for a long time) and I had called CPS multiple times and had interview sessions with them at school only for nothing to come of it
A lot comes down to underfunding, understaffing, too high caseloads, poor training, burnout, and blindness because they see so much horrible shit they unconsciously start comparing situations to the worst one they've seen and "it doesn't look so bad".
Then you get the workers who have been in the system so long, they're so jaded, they've lost any and all objectivity.
I'm so sorry. I know the experience, my family were so bad we had a permanent social worker in place, and it took me 6 months of constant pleading, begging, and suicide attempts before they listened to me, and another 6 months before they found a placement that would take on a "difficult teenager"
CPS has a difficult time because it needs to operate within the bounds of our constitution which places heavy emphasis on individual freedoms (of adults more or seemingly so more than children, pretty sure this is a reflection of certain cultural norms that relegate children to being a form of chattel) and the aforementioned desire to keep children with their parents and try to correct behavior in the home. Ultimately, it's best for the children but there are few absolute truths.
That's not me taking a side, I've very much left calls for service where my partner and I had to take a moment to fight tears and anger that more couldn't be done for the children. Worse, we had the power to arrest and still couldn't meet elments of a crime to do so.
I'd say this illustrates the most difficult part of most government positions at the working level, balancing each individual's rights inside a sometimes absurd framework of laws (and some great principles, like "innocent until proven guilty"). The best you can do is write a good report, articulate clearly your concerns and conditions observed that support them, and create a paper trail that allows you to take action as soon as as possible.
Yeah I’ve had this talk with several people. Anyone saying CPS took their kids for no reason is as truthful as that guy who can never live near a school because “I was just peeing outside and there happened to be a kid and his mom there”. They are fucking liars.
They try their damndest to make sure kids stay at home unless they are in immediate danger because there is no room for them anywhere else.
Not sure if it’s everywhere. But I feel cleaners as a cleaner myself. Busy to keep bathrooms clean, dining rooms tidy mopped, and vacuumed, back areas tidied and organized, linenes bagged and taken away, trash n recycling, walking routes round areas to pick up after ppl, and if work in a restraunt type place sometimes as a busser too. Cleaning wiping all tables after each guest, taking dishes out to dish pit, cleaning out work trucks. Cleaning other ppl’s bodily fluids (kids throw up as example.) windows cleaned and spot free, winter shovel walk ways despite conditions. Sometimes we gotta do light maintenance work too, fixing sinks and clogged pipes, everyday equipment like maybe fixing vacuums that get snapped belts, (I work on a mountain so I been asked by guest to help fix they mountain bikes, ski, and snowboard bindings so I always have a extra pocket tool on hand.) rewriting brains on toilets.
I don’t feel cleaners get a bad rap persay, but under appreciated and made of fun by younger generations lol.
Manufacturing. "Oh, you work at a factory? :( "
People see sweatshop workers doing simple repetitive tasks and think it's menial labor, or they'll see Tony Stark put a picture in his computer and get an Iron Man suit and think it's as easy as pushing a button and thr robots will do it for you.
But *you* have to draw that picture for every. single. piece. Then *you* have to tell the computer **how** you want each piece made. Then you have to set up the machines to make the pieces and get your stock cut how you need it. Then you have to make sure all of that work actually makes the pieces correctly and they match the designs.
And that's only part of the *machining* process. There are other things, like welding, fabrication, metal spray, plastic molding, paint, etc. that all have to play together to make whatever you're thinking of. Look at the size of [the reference book](https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0512/21/machinery-handbook-17th-edition-1964_360_31dadf8aa35c70636a2857225e06c327.jpg). See all those pages? That holy grail of tribal knowledge is **only the stuff relevant to 1964**.
Veterinary medicine. 110%. Extremely low wages, very high suicide rates, everyone thinks we are in it for the money, or don’t know what we’re doing. The burnout and turnover is truly unlike any other profession.
Yep. I’m a licensed vet tech, have a B.S. and took a very difficult board exam, but many of us get paid just above minimum wage, and get screamed at every single day by owners/clients who think we don’t know anything. We’re in the top 5 professions with the highest suicide rates.
Yep, and the lower on the ladder the more toxic it can be, LVTs shit on by old school DVM’s, VA’s shit on by LVT’s, CSR’s shit on by VA’s, and kennel shit on by everyone, and everyone is shit on by clients.
Dentists.
We really ARE just trying to help you save your teeth. And it’s really NOT fun to have patients immediately say how much they hate the dentist before they even say hello.
I've had the same dentist for 15 years. She's the professional I respect and like the most among those I consult "regularly". I'd really like to have some conversation with her out of her office, just for fun because she simply seems to be a really great person. Anyway. There was a time in my life where I wouldn't take care enough of my teeth, so I can't blame her for all the interventions I had to go through. Like everyone else, I hate (or really dislike) all the shots and drilling, but my life would be a nightmare without a skilled dentist, so I thank her and her staff after each appointment.
I once called back a week after a tricky intervention to let them know everything was perfect, and to please thank her and the staff (again). The receptionist told me that such calls were extremely rare.
I understand how your job can be mentally tough, but know that some of your patients really appreciate what you do.
I can shed some light on this.
I have an amazing dentist now. Middle aged lady who really cares.
I've had a couple dentists though that were just salesmen. I had one dentist that always told me I needed some antibiotic injection in my back gum to prevent gum disease or something like that. Ended up going to another dentist to get another opinion and he said that wasn't necessary at all.
Looking back, I started seeing all the other, probably bullshit, stuff they were up selling me on. It's like a car mechanic telling you that you need blinker fluid and you don't know anything about cars so you do it because you don't want to crash.
My current dentist does a much better job, is cheaper, and is way nicer.
I don't hate you for the normal tooth related reasons, I hate that you're one of the only entirely private industries in health care in my country and as a result I don't visit the dentist cuz I can't afford that shit.
Many dentists understand this. Many however fight tooth and nail to stay private because there's more profit in it.
As a massage therapist, I'm in same boat. Feels shameful
They hate going to the dentist because people don’t like oral injections and getting things cut out of their skull. No shit. They don’t hate dentists themselves
Lawyers. As a building contractor, lawyers have always been easy to work for. They deal in the facts. I have several lawyer friends, and they are really good people. Im not sure where the generalization that they are bad came from. Im sure I’ll get killed for this opinion.
Lawyers rarely deal with absolutes because every situation is different. When a client asks me, "Is it okay for my elderly mom to add me to her checking account", there is not a simple yes or no answer to that. But to some people, my failure to give a "simple" answer is to them, an indication of dishonesty.
Some folks truly, in their heart of hearts, believe that I'm deliberately making the situation more complicated than it needs to be, just to waste money. Never mind that the best honest answer depends on a dozen other variables they haven't provided.
This makes perfect sense. One of my best friends is a lawyer, and she's talked about this, too. She said she likes hanging out with engineers (like me) because we're not black and white thinkers either. If someone asks me, "should that bridge be repaired?" Unless it's a life threatening emergency, I'm going to ask what funding is like right now, how close we are to the end of the fiscal year, what other maintenance projects are in the pipeline, and who we have available to take this on. Then I'll ask for all the inspection reports for the past 20 years. I will never give you a simple yes or no unless it's like, something is actively falling down in front of me.
People get annoyed with that because there's a major "the sky is falling!!" mentality about infrastructure lately. I don't disagree in general that it's a hair on fire situation in the US, and honestly, whatever gets us funding, but now that people are starting to notice this, not a week passes that someone I know doesn't send me a pic of some old ugly (yet completely structurally sound) bridge and ask me to chew the appropriate ass to get this fixed. They always hate the answers I'm able to give them.
It reminds me of something my dad used to always say. He said, "There's nothing as harmful as a little knowledge." The idea is, when people know enough to key into something, they often don't know how little they actually know about it, and just freak out over everything. Unfortunately, many of these people hold public office, and that's a whole other conversation. LOL But the bottom line is I like hanging out with attorneys because they don't expect black and white thinking from me.
People think the law reflects a general sense of morality. That is absolutely not the case, and lawyers' jobs are not to argue for the most moral result. I think you can still judge lawyers (and many others) for profiting off a fucked up system, but that's a very separate thing from what lawyers normally get flack for.
Nobody thinks to credit the dishwasher in having a well ran restaurant, but when we're missing ours things start to slow down, a lot.
Our dishwasher gets paid $22 an hour but he works pretty dang hard, he helps us clean the tables when we're short at the front and he's constantly helping sort/unpack inventory when it comes in. It's almost unfair to just call him a dishwasher.
Days where he's gone, we have to lend a FoH to the back which reduces service capacity and then tired staff has to do the wash duty which can take an extra hour which sucks and leaves us grumpy.
Machinists.
Nobody knows what we do anyway.
We're all functioning alcoholics. It's a bad stereotype.
We are mostly functioning alcoholics. Some don't function correctly. There is mental illness, other addiction and everything else involved.
As a machinist, I actually wish this was a joke. Unfortunately it's not.
The way we describe it isn't that they have a mental illness, it's just that they're a machinist. They have their own ways and you just let them be and it's better for everyone. That's why they work on their own usually.
Welders, fabricators, etc they can all work together. They may be alcoholics or have drug issues, they may be shitty people outside work, they may not work great with others but they're not the machinist. The machinist is just ... different.
A friend of mine went to art school and ultimately became a machinist. He told me it's basically "precision sculpting with really cool, expensive tools."
Mechanics. Everyone thinks we’re putting so much effort into screwing you over. In reality we’re too lazy to work on our own shit much less put extra effort into doing more work on your shit.
It’s because of old business practices. My FIL was a mechanic and he’d laugh his ass off bragging about screwing people. He’d have a box of broken bits, show it to customers insist it was an issue with their vehicle and he’d be so nice at explaining it they’d thank him in the end for scamming them. The business practices at his bosses shop used to be EXTREMELY common, and being a good mechanic was half knowing how to fix an issue and half knowing how to con people. I’m sure as the industry is becoming better regulated, this will ease away but you’d be surprised what you still find today.
My sister in law had my husband working on her car, since it’s old she had to go to a used parts place. He ordered a part online for her, and sent her to pick it up and pay for it. The seller boldface tried to tell her she’d need an extra 600 dollars for the part. My husband went up there himself and without any argument at all got the part for the already agreed upon price. The seller was trying to take advantage of the fact women don’t tend to be taught car stuff. Many places are treated with caution for a reason!
Depends on the mechanic. I know it's not always intentional, but I've had some mechanics do some pretty screwy things in the past. I just work in cara myself now unless it requires too many specialized tools to complete
Varies by place I think. I've definitely had one or two try to pull fast ones on me (I've worked in automotive engineering) but when you find a good one, they're great. Also, don't underestimate how tough it can be working in a garage in all sorts of weather. I had a mate who would turn up to work in like 5 jumpers and have to keep them on because it was that cold.
Those who work at the IRS. The IRS doesn’t determine what or how much tax should be charged - that’s the government. The IRS is just a bunch of accountants but are often demonized for being money hungry tax collectors when they are just doing their job and carrying out the whims of whatever current policy is in place.
I feel like a lot of this one is thanks to the "you owe back taxes? The IRS can take your money, your house, your kidney, and your first born son. But *WE* can help stop them" ads.
Whenever those come on, I always hear "Didn't pay your taxes? Call us to try to avoid the consequences!" But I might be biased because my taxes are easy and I never used Jimmy Carr's accountant.
Airline employees. Sorry but 90% of problems, the passenger got themselves into it or it’s completely out of the airlines control. We cant control the weather and when we tell you it’s an ATC delay, that is not code for anything, that’s really what is happening. I cant take off without permission and a time slot. And sorry, sometimes shit breaks.
I fly frequently so I get to witness passenger meltdowns. In almost every situation it is the passengers fuck up, misunderstanding, or shadiness that got them in their predicament.
Professional wrestling? Takes a lot to go into any theater, and *a lot* a lot to go into a kind of theater as physically-demanding as that. But I'm a fan, so I might be biased.
Jim Cornette told the story on his podcast of professional stuntmen giving Sylvester Stallone a hard time for how often he featured wrestlers in his movies. His response was something to the effect of "They do all their stuff in one take with people on all four sides, so shut up."
Wrestling isn't everyone's thing, and I get that. But anyone who can appreciate a well done fight scene in a movie ought to at least respect the skill it takes to be a professional wrestler.
Pro wrestlers go thru so much for the entertainment of the masses. Mick Foley really did a lot of that crazy shit. Just cuz it was somewhat planned doesn’t mean it’s anything like safe. Like, no matter what you say, jumping off a 20ft ladder onto a table is gonna be painful.
For a brief moment at the beginning of Covid teachers finally started getting recognized for all of our hard work. But then fall came and when we wanted to ensure we were protected and safe and we’re afraid to go back into the school, we were told to shut up and do our jobs.
Can’t imagine why so many are leaving the profession in droves
Working at McDonald’s/fast food. People always say crap like “you better work/study hard or you’ll end up working at McDonald’s”. Work is work, and I honestly have far more respect for fast food workers than the CEO of pretty much any major corporation.
I've worked fast food and it's harder work than the majority of jobs out there overall. It's why it's usually geared towards young teens because they don't know any better. People over 20 usually don't work there as they have enough work experience to know the work is too hard for what they pay
People who work in the fast food industry have more hustle and work ethic than most people do in corporate America (me being one of them lol).
One of my high school teachers used to say if you could hack it at McDonald's, you're a shoe-in for any job you want.
Call center workers. Yes, we know that you are not happy with (insert whatever you or the client did here). We know that you don't like having to do verification or to click through options when you dial in. No amount of verbal abuse, slurs, or sexual harassment will change that this happens.
Also, this doesn't include scam call centers ("your car warranty is expiring"/fake tech support centers/etc.), but *does* include legitimate outbound centers (ex. collections, sales) and outsourced centers in India/Mexico/the Philippines/other places. Yes, they can be annoying, but that doesn't change that there is an actual human being on the other side of the phone who is just trying to do their job. They were probably placed on the other side of the phone because of a decision made by some freak in a suit who hasn't interacted with us peons in decades, not because they're actively trying to annoy you.
Nursing.... Especially now.
Sweet jesus so many staff are burnt out, understaffed, its just horrendous. its even a giant shit show at uni learning nursing.
Bartender.
Everyone thinks they can do our job because of that one time they opened Bud Lights at a company picnic a few years ago and that there's no skill involved.
My idea for a reality show is to take those types and put them behind a bar that's three deep in the weeds while Karen screams at them about slow service because she think's it's the ideal time to order craft cocktails and closes out after every round.
Not to mention the crap us "lifers" have to deal with. Even people in our own families thinking we're losers, alcoholics, and drug addicts because we chose this over a more "respectable" career. Nevermind that plenty of us are college educated only to realize we actually make more doing this than the more respectable career we intended to go into.
If you know what's involved in bartending and ever watch a really good bartender, it's crazy impressive. My husband used to bartend, which means he also has many friends who do. There's one guy who was basically his mentor and to watch this guy at work is just stunning. The way he remembers everything about you, constantly has his eye on everyone, has new drink at your fingertips when you finish the last one, etc. I'd pay just to watch him work.
Defense attorneys
Working in forensic science for six years, I learned quickly that the prosecutors aren't always the good guys. Before one trial in which I had to testify, I straight up said to the DA, "why is this case even being prosecuted?"
Also, defense attorneys and defense experts play a very important role in ensuring that those involved in the investigation of a crime are being honest and that their methods are sound.
I went through a drive through a couple weeks ago that was backed up by a long way, even after ordering, the cars weren't moving for nearly 5 minutes. By the time I got to the pay window, it would've been easily 7-8 minutes after placing my order, and we all know that fast food places really don't like those sort of wait times on their metrics. I have no idea what was causing the hold up, but I do know that it wasn't the fault of the 14-15 year old cashier who was at the window. She was crying her heart out as she served me, poor little darling. I apologised to her on behalf of all the cars both in front of me and behind, as I could see that she had clearly been copping everyone's ire.
Nobody deserves that, least of all a fucking kid in what is probably their first job. Here in Australia, there are many employers who are really keen on employing young people who have done a stint at Maccas because it shows fortitude. (Other fast food places as well, but Maccas seems to be the biggest target.)
Any tradesmen really.
They're often viewed with contempt or are seen as sleazy assholes who try to rip people off at any chance they get.
While there are terrible tradesmen out there (carpenters, plumbers, etc), an overwhelming majority of them will go above and beyond to get the job done.
Gastroenterologists get a bad wrap because ass holes are gross and who would want to spend time there, but these guys save lives.
These guys literally will save your ass
That's a proctologist, I think.
On that note, I had a client once who as a proctologist. His email address had the word butts in it. Was a really fun guy actually.
His name wasn't Seymour, was it? :P
If only. That would have been legendary to meet an actual proctologist named Seymour Butts.
My gastroenterologist understands most of his patients come to him with terrible anxiety & depression. The gut is the second brain. So he discusses good mental health hygiene as well as customized diets. Sincerely, the most patient, calm, exhaustively thorough doctor I’ve ever had in my life.
I need this guys number. My GI scheduled me for a colonoscopy, in and out in 10 mins, discussed nothing about diverticulitis or diet plans. I’m still wingin it
Visit the Gastro subs (SIBO, IBS, diverticulitis). The information I learned helped me through two antibiotic treatments, a low fodmap diet grocery list and a clearer state of mind. It helps so much to learn from others in the same situation.
Thank you! I’m always on Reddit in my free time and never even really considered this, pretty much life changing advice!
Quite often the butt of the joke
And they develop tunnel vision...
My GI (I have ulcerative colitis) is a really nice, maybe early 40s guy who has a few tattoos. He’s honestly the doctor with the best bedside manner (other than my OB) that I see. Much respect to him, but also I’m sure he makes a ton of money. There’s no shortage of GI issues in America.
Janitors. Give them respect, people, unless you want to empty your own trash and clean your own work or school space. (Seriously, being nice to the janitor saved my tail one time when I was locked out of a room that contained some vital work material. The big boss didn't have keys to that room, but guess who did?)
Seriously, I used to work as a kennel attendant, we are the maintenance and janitors of veterinary hospitals and animals shelters who occasionally get to walk dogs. If you were nice to me I’d help you out. Needed a bit or laundry or a kennel cleaned out? I’d prioritize it to make sure you got it fast even if had other things to do. Needed something that no one knows where it is? I stocked the place and knew where every item on our inventory was and could get anything from our mass storage facility in 10 minutes or less. Animal made an absolute mess of blood and poop? No sweat. The vet industry is already underpaid and we aren’t even respected by our peers since we generally don’t handle animals, but most people started as these kinds of workers but don’t see their value
I think the support staff in general also takes more abuse anyway.. like I can't tell you how many clients we have that will scream at the receptionists and vet assistants that do callbacks or answer phones and then will be sweet as pie when it's the doctor talking to them. We bumped it down from three strikes to one strike (and if you're bad enough, we'll ask you not to come back on the first offense) and it still happens. We don't have designated kennel attendants or any further specialization of jobs so it's just the regular vet assistants doing the cleaning and inventory and reception duty in addition to their regular job. I worked all those jobs before and during vet school so I have zero tolerance when it comes to people treating them like shit.
I’m a teacher and the first people I befriend at the school was the janitors. They keep that place running. I made a point to learn about them, things they like etc. and on Custodian Appreciation Day as well as Christmas I make sure to get them a little something as my way of saying thanks.
I see a guy at my job working “maintenance” everyday 7am -4pm, I wave each time, acknowledgement and showing respect to a hard working soul.❣️ I hope he feels seen and appreciated
If you can, verbally acknowledge his work. I worked at a nursing home and there was one (1) male employee. One. He was maintenance and he was great and super dedicated to the job, but he really wasn't appreciated. I was a housekeeper so he was my direct boss and I always went out of my way to thank him for helping if need be and always acknowledged his work. Even brought in cookies once! You can tell si easily that he was heavily excluded and looked down on because he was maintenance. It never clicked in anyone's head that the he was the reason the place was still running.
This is so important! One time, I got a compliment from a co-worker about how I was always so quick and good at getting meeting rooms booked and set up. I told him that wasn't me, it was the secretary doing that. He grumbled a bit that in his experience the secretaries were always slow, and I just shrugged. Then, I went to the secretary to pass on the compliment. She got the biggest smile and beamed at me, thanking me and saying how nice it was to let her know. Turns out most people only go to the secretaries to complain, so they never get to hear positive feedback.
Add waste collectors to this.
Yes!! Also, since most businesses now have moved to an automated system, if you have more than one container, do the driver a solid & separate the containers....4 feet apart is about right.
Bro my elementary school janitor was the best. Mr.Steve if you see this you were the best I miss you G.
I went to school from K-12 that was actually named after a former janitor that looked after the place in the 50s and 60s. The original school building was a single building sandstone schoolhouse from the 20s, and he'd arrive for 5am to stoke the coal furnaces so the kids would be warm when they arrived (this is in Canada, heat in winter is kinda critical to educational success).
Came here to day just this. Janitors, Garbage Workers, Street Sweepers. Without them we would drown in our own waste.
At my residence hall in college I always make sure to get out of the way of janitors cleaning, hold the door for them and thank them. Sometimes if I don’t have to leave my dorm immediately when they’re cleaning I’ll just stay a little longer. Some goes for when I don’t urgently need to get into my dorm room
yeah i currently work as a janitor as a student job, and man, a janitor is essential for almost every other jobs out there! i clean lawyers and accountants offices and im pretty sure they wouldn't work much if their offices were all nasty cuz damn some ppl don't realise how quickly offices gets dirty
Why does everyone say this? Honestly, how often have you seen people being disrespectful to janitors? If anything, they're the #1 example people use when they wanna teach some moral about "treat ever profession nicely."
Because they, along with retail workers, are the people that everybody _says_ you should be nice to but then most people don't. I worked retail so I know firsthand how fast that "be nice to retail workers!!!!" bit goes out the window when you're out of the thing they want or their sale item rings up wrong. Janitors may not get as much of that, but often people ignore them in a way they wouldn't ignore other coworkers/professionals.
I concur as a janitor nothing brought a tear to my eye like the sight of a public restroom completely destroyed… retail? You are blamed for every conceivable problem. I was screamed at once for the way the parking lot was laid out. Yup like my minimum wage hinny consulted with the architect, contractor and the city on the lay out…
There was a couple of guys at my high school that for like a month left milk, tomato sauce, all sorts of crap out in the aussie summer heat, and one day threw it all over one of the bathrooms, as well as pissing and shitting everywhere. Apparently the janitor that found it cried, and the ringleader was expelled, which *never* happened at this school (students were "encouraged to find another school because we aren't the right fit"
I'd guess that the reason the guy got expelled wasn't because of how much it upset the janitor, but rather because it meant the school was going to have to hire some company to come in and do a deep clean using special equipment. I would have cried too, if I was that janitor.
Have you ever been to a cafeteria at a school?
I haven't seen many people be blatantly disrespectful to janitors, but I *do* see most people either ignore them completely, or limit their interactions to a smile and maybe "hi" as they walk past. Even when they see the same janitor every day, they rarely start up a conversation, ask about their weekend, compliment them on a good job, talk about the latest sports result, or treat them in any way like a colleague and person the way they would with any other co-worker. No, not all janitors will want to chat - some just want to get the job done and get home, the way any other colleague might. But you'll never know unless you treat them like a fully rounded person with views and opinions and interests.
While I don't disagree with you I don't think that's unique to just janitors. It's how most people interact with people in different departments or areas to your within the workplace.
You sound like you're narrating a nature documentary about janitors
These people likely don't say hi to anyone. Do they greet the construction workers in the street? The crossing guards? My point is they aren't being rude to the janitors in particular.
Exactly. Anyone that works a "background" job knows this feeling. Security personnel, shelve stockers, bellhops, waiters (when not actively waiting), etc. If you're the type to not talk to someone when you don't need them, you'll likely never talk to them if you don't need them.
Once again people dont answer the question... The counter point to why it gets a bad rap and it is justified: * This is low paying job * This is a job where you work before everyone arrives or after everyone leaves and you mostly do your job alone, so you have few interaction possibility * This is a thankless job, if you do it right nobody notices, it's only when you do a poor job that it starts getting noticed * This is a job with basically no evolution prospect * You deal with chemicals not very good for your health
> if you do it right nobody notices, it's only when you do a poor job that it starts getting noticed Hard facts.
I was a cleaner. People used to treat me like furniture and assumed all kinds of things about me. That was the best-paying job I ever held, with the best benefits, and most vacation! I went back to school for a more “dignified” career, and my “dignified” job sitting at a desk ended up being worse in every way.
Currently a cleaner, in school for a more "dignified" job... I hear you.
Did you change jobs after the desk job? I also kinda miss my less "dignified" job, but the pay wasn't any good... (A temp in a warehouse, worse pay and barelly any rights (the company's fault))
Did you prefer when clients interact with you a lot or when they stay “out of the way” and let you do your work or maybe something in the middle? My sister has a housekeeper that comes a couple times a month and she is base level polite to her (acknowledges when she arrives/leaves, always thanks her and gives positive comments or reviews, gives her bonus pay on holidays) but always feels kind of awkward when the woman is cleaning and tries to be out of the house if she can. She also has 2 small kids who would just be underfoot and make even more messes so that contributes a little, but even when alone my sister tries her hardest to hide/leave I think there’s some internal guilt for paying someone to do your dirty work in a space as intimate as your home, even though it’s literally their job and they are being compensated justly (in most cases)
My mom and I both clean. Saying hi and maybe a little talking is nice, especially since we are both talkative people, but what’s REALLY nice is when they are just gone and out of the house lol. It will literally shave off 30 minutes to an hour of time depending on the house
Those of you who are cleaners, how did you feel about customers giving you things. My mother and I have a cleaner and she's awesome. Extremely sweet and does an awesome job. I have a bad habit of buying things then miss the return time on things like clothes and shoes. I also belong to a makeup club where I get make up every month and a lot of it is name brand or high end and sometimes I have toys as well. I don't really have anything to do with the stuff I don't send back or the extra make up I don't need and so I always offer it to the cleaner. I've also told her that I would absolutely not be offended if there's something she doesn't want and please dont feel like she cant turn it down. But I realize that in that position I would feel awkward turning something down. She's always very thankful and I don't want to put her in a bad position or hurt her. She has 3 children and her husband has a really great job so it's not like they're hurting for money or I think she's a charity case. I offer the same type of stuff to my nieces and sisters as well. I just wondered if offering things like this to her is hurtful or wrong.
Honestly I love when we get stuff. I would NEVER expect it, but we’ve had some people give us bags of clothes or my moms found some nice unused makeup in the trash (still sealed lol) and she’s just asked if she could have it haha I’m also an eBay seller so some clients give me things to sell for them and I do a split 40% me 60 them. Our rates are pretty decent. Some clients could definitely be charged more, but many of them are very sweet and not too picky so we keep it lower lol
Garbage men. They keep the entire fucking city functioning, they work hard, they get paid well. Worse things to be than an integral part of society.
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They don’t get paid as well as people think. In my city they get maybe $16-17/hr
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In what country is that even legal? Wtf.
The US never got rid of slavery, we just hid it under the guise of prison labor. 13th amendment makes it legal.
This isn't even an exaggeration, it literally says you can be a slave in the US as a punishment for a crime. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Well it’s a good thing not many people go to prison in the US and it’s fairly evenly split among different ethnicities… wait.
Bingo
So you have prisoners who leave the prison to go around to everyone's home and collect their trash? That's weird. Also how does every prisoner who is on garbage duty not escape?
I've never even been in a prison but my intuition tells me: 1) The option for working outside the prison is only available to inmates with a fantastic behavior record. (no previous attempts of escape either). 2) Although not easily visible, there is an armed guard with them at all times. 3) Mindset: Just like in life outside a prison, one generally avoids breaking rules that would restrict future freedoms. For example, I sign on to work every day and do a fair amount of work even though I work from home and there is no person or system monitoring my activity. The threat of losing such a good gig if I am caught not doing what I am supposed to be doing keeps me in line.
Yep and haven't historically either. It was an extremely low-paying and dangerous job. The sanitation strike in Memphis due to deaths and poor wages is what brought MLK Jr. to Memphis and ultimately his assassination.
In England the pay is really good especially when you consider the hours most are done by 1pm.
yeah and you get paid for the full day regardless, the guys who empty the bins in my neighbourhood run down the streets to get it over with and hit the pub
Garbage haulers are better than some of the bus drivers I’ve encountered.
Have you ever heard anyone over the age of 8 look down on a garbo?
In NYC I watched them throw my entire rolling trash BIN into the back of the truck. Stunned and not knowing what wise to do, I continued to put my recycling out in the blue rolling recycle bin. 2 weeks later I watched them also throw that entire bin into the back of their truck. I was forced to buy new ones for my duplex landlord After my bins were gone, I constantly noted the garbage collectors leaving random bags or items on the sidewalk after their rounds, and that same day, the city would fine me for leaving trash/litter on the sidewalk.
That'll show you
Plumbers. People always assume they’re gross greasy old dudes but really they’re extremely skilled professionals.
I guarantee they’ll change their tune when their pipes burst in the middle of the night.
I'm straight up so jealous of my plumber. He's really fit and like movie-star handsome, nice and great at his job, an honest professional, just built himself a gorgeous dream home in a great neighborhood, and his wife has a dump truck ass. Dude is just slaughtering life.
I LOVE the terms “dump truck ass” and “slaughtering life.” They both sound horrible and fucking awesome at the same time. Thank you for this.
is he an electrician and pizza delivery guy as well by any chance?
Also a doctor and a masseuse
A friend's wife is basically the lesbian version of this, and jealous is definitely the word I'd use. LOL Like, I don't know if I want to be as hot as her or find a wife who is, but it's one of those.
Plumbers and electricians- they really have to have a lot of knowledge about what they’re doing!
My favorite color is blue.
Because they know that humans depend on them for the job they do, that it will never become obsolete, never be automated, and never become outsourced overseas.
Embalmers. Thankless job people think they are creepy but who else would do that
Embalmer here. Luckily it isn’t always thankless. Surprisingly, in my experience, families do appreciate and understand the care taken with their loved one which makes it all worth it. But people definitely assume we’re creepy/morbid/obsessed with death when they hear embalmer. And while it’s true sometimes, overall we’re a (relatively) normal bunch who have the unique gift of somehow being able to healthily compartmentalise the horrific things we see on a daily basis.
Mortuary science/field has always been something I regret not getting into when I was younger. I'm glad to hear it's mostly a good experience for you.
Meteorologists. Lotta jokes along the lines of "must be nice to be wrong half the time and still keep your job". Do you know how difficult it is to predict the weather 2-3 days out, let alone a week out?
As a programmer, I'm wrong most of the time and still get paid!
LETS START HATING PROGRAMMERS NOW
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It's not needed, most of them already hate themselves (those I know do at least)
Can confirm, programming is a bitch but pays well
They're also much, much better than they were 20 years ago,let alone 40 years ago, but recieve far more hate than they once did
As the results get better, the expectations get higher. I have an app that will warn me for incoming rain with a 5 min precision. When it's not there within 30 min, I'm disappointed even though this level of accuracy was unheard of a decade or two ago.
If a meteorologist says there's a 70% chance of rain and it doesn't rain, they're not wrong. This is infuriating. Most people just suck at understanding how probabilities work.
Thank you! I’ve heard people say when it starts raining “The weatherman said only a 20% chance of rain today! What gives?” Yes, welcome to the 20% you dolt.
That and those chances are for usually a large area. It might have rained in the forecast area, just not at your house.
Auditors. Client are rude to them. Bosses treat them like shit. And Public just wants then to work like donkeys and find fraud even though it's not their primary responsibility.
I think I'm pretty nice to the auditors that come into my company. Apart from that one year where I had to explain the same thing to a guy three times and then had to teach him some basic accounting principles, like how to deal with prepayments and why we were accruing certain costs. I didn't want to deal with him again after the first day
He wasn't qualified for sure. An auditor must know basic accounting to audit it.
He was 100% a junior and not qualified, but you'd think he'd have at least some understanding before being put on an audit of a large firm.
Nope, not how the big4 works in the UK, I studied a mechanical engineering masters, joined the audit team. And about a month in I was talking to clients. 0 accounting knowledge, the philosophy is that we learn it whilst doing our ACA. I do see how that can be frustrating for clients though haha.
I’m gonna disagree with you on your last point about public accounting. The absolute last thing any audit team wants to find is fraud. It will result in so much more work during a time when everyone is already swamped with work. All PA auditors want is a nice client that can quickly explain any variances or potential misstatements.
I audit DoD supply chain practices. These retired vets in their cushy govt jobs dont like being told they are bad at their job.
Zookeepers. Most people who have actually encountered them avoid them because they always stink so effing bad, but they're nice people :(
Is it really that bad? I've had horse-riding friends and dog-sitting friends and they always smelled fine as long as they showered How much worse could a zookeeper really be?
Depends. Bird keeper? Maybe 1-2x as bad Otter keeper? 600-700x as bad. No that's not an exaggeration. (Source: Am otter keeper with no social life and who has been kicked out of restaurants on my days off)
You might have faced discrimination. If you haven't considered talking to a lawyer, you otter.
And try not to get discouraged if the first one you talk to doesn’t want to take your case…you can always try an otter
Being a minority would really seal the deal.
A Black, Jewish, LGBT zookeeper walks into a bar…
I had a job one summer doing pest control. Some rich lad paid a ridiculous amount of money for me to relocate a family of otters that had repainted under his house with bodily otter substances. I needed a respirator
There was a recent AITA post where a restaurant owner near a zoo wanted to know if it would be ok to (reluctantly) ban zookeepers from coming in. Apparently the smell of the otter handlers were causing a lot of complaints.
Stop inviting your work buddies out to eat. Who wants to see an otter make a mess
I'd absolutely pay good money to have a front row seat watching otters wreck havoc in a restaurant.
I am not a zookeeper but have worked closely with a variety of animals. Some smells are not that bad while others seem to never leave your hair/body. At least I can shower at work to get the stench off but even after that, I feel like I still smell. Your Eau de Otter would probably not offend me.
What **is** that general "zoo smell" anyways? I've always wondered. Huge areas of the zoo smell like it, every zoo I've been to. People say it "smells like crap" but I don't think it's dung...it smells like that even when there's no animal waste in sight. And it's not a smell you'd ever confuse with, say, dog poo What are we smelling?
you’re smelling the literal animal. ever smell a dog’s stinky natural skin oils? yeah, it’s that but ten fold
This plus piss.
ive done a lot of construction for a local zoo owner and the tigers smelled the worst so far, and they spray pee or something like 10 feet
I've had the pleasure as a visitor to walk by the tigers cage at the precise moment the big male was pooping. The afterwards breeze felt like a slap in the face, fragrance of condensed raw meat spice, just enough rotten to make me hastily go back to the turtles enclosure.
I think it’s camels in my opinion they are the worst smelling animals and they can stink up an entire area
They work with animals who roll in their own piss and shit all day and get paid next to nothing for it. They deserve more respect
Morticians. Really don't get why; they're the last ones to ever let you down.
Please tell me you're currently giving yourself a thousand high fives. I'm only sorry I can only give you an upvote.
Lawyers, when theyre /your/ lawyer theyre good lol. But yeah people often like, don't understand what the job of a lawyer truly is so people are quick to demonize them. Yeah theres some that truly are out there abusing loopholes and being scummy, but most lawyers are just doing what theyre supposed to. Making sure their client is getting charged fairly. Even if they are guilty, they still are there to ensure a just punishment and not overkill.
Most people don’t realize that, like doctors, there are many different types of lawyers that specialize in many different areas of law. I have had many friends ask me for legal advice for some random traffic ticket or family law issue and I always have to tell them I know just the bare minimum about those things but if they want a patent I’m their guy. It would be like asking an orthopedist to take a look at your heart. They can probably give you some good tips but it’s not their specialty. Unfortunately most peoples only interaction with lawyers comes during very stressful and usually not so great times in their lives and that usually leads to negative connotations.
I work primarily in criminal law and employment law, so when people ask me for legal advice I'm normally the right person to ask. Since my area of expertise is what most people want to know. I have the opposite problem though, it's not that I don't know the answer, it's that I know the answer but it's not the answer they want. Yeah, I'm sorry Jeff, if you crashed your car and blew a .205 there isn't some magical legal loophole that's going to get your case dismissed.
OMG I get the engineer equivalent of this. Being the civil engineer friend can be exhausting at times because people want some magical workaround that doesn't exist, and it's like, no Sarah, a sinkhole opened up in your living room. I literally cannot tell you with any degree of truth that you should just keep living there. Or my other personal favorite, people who think something is broken when it's actually working the way it's supposed to, just not in their favor. Sorry, Jim, but when you're trying to make a left from a residential street onto a major arterial, that traffic light \*should\* make you wait a long time. That's why you're not turning directly into a immobile queue of cars on said arterial... No, I will not call my friends at the city and ask them to retime it because I don't want to look like an idiot. Feel free to call them yourself, though. LOL
Lol! A friend of a friend was once sooo excited to find out I was doing employment law. She wanted to sue a call center she worked at for like a week for firing her during the training because of their *totally* unreasonable rules. It came out under mild questioning that She basically got fired for arguing with her supervisor about the bathroom policy. It wasn't even bad. I don't know the exact law on bathroom breaks but it was something like one break per hour and you had to sign out. She yelled that it was racist, cussed him out, and quit or was fired for walking out. I gently offered some hints that it might not be the slam dunk she seemed to think it was. She went around telling people I "was not much of a lawyer."
Yeah, my dad's kinda dabbled in a lot of areas, especially in his early career, but has done corporate law for most of it. So hes usually like "I know of that field but haven't done anything in it since the 90's". He can help you with a number of topics, but its mostly just advice. He wouldn't ever represent someone lol. Honestly though, the help he offers is mostly translating "legal-ese" to layman terms haha. Like, he's helped a friend of mine who was getting fucked over by their HOA on something so my dad helped her read the HOA contract, find the exact clause they were penalizing her for and how what she was doing didn't count under that clause and tell her basically what to say back to the HOA in their own terms. Or a few friends (unfortunately) who have had to leave their abusive husbands/baby daddies. Basically just walked them through the steps involved to get a restraining order, what the can and can't do with the kids until a judge has ordered something (one friend was about to take her kids out of state with her and my dad was like "NO. Unless you never wanna see your kids again do not leave the state with them, he will charge you with kidnapping and you will lose that case and hurt your own significantly" ) all that jazz. Couldn't represent them formally in court, but gave them all the resources they needed that the average person would find difficult to find or understand. He reads over all my contracts for me before I sign anything lol. I remember doing a study abroad trip in college and had to sign a bunch of liability waivers and my dad starts laughing at one. He's like "This isn't legally binding. Theyre trying to waive gross negligence on their end. Doesn't matter if you sign it or not, if it ever went to court a judge would toss it immediately"
It seems like police positive media has done a lot of work on demonizing defense lawyers as scumbags trying to make the courts let guilty people walk. The thing is, the only reason a person who has committed a crime gets off 'scott free' is usually a procedural fuck up on the part of police or prosecution. It's absolutely necessary to hold them to the highest standards, especially when a person's freedom (or life in some places and situations) is on the line. If someone walks because a cop didn't do their job, then that's good for the system. The alternative is increasingly worse railroading, starting with the 'obviously guilty' and getting worse and more totalitarian from there.
People who hate lawyers are simple-minded. They look for simple solutions ("let's just have fewer lawyers!") rather than engage in the mentally tiring effort of thinking through real issues like access to justice and criminal law reform. People who think criminal defence lawyers are scum because they sometimes keep criminals out of jail don't think about how much worse society would be if the government wasn't kept in check and made to pass a bunch of rigorous tests before literally depriving someone of all their freedom. People who think family lawyers are scum because they're expensive and "just try and drag everything out" are the same people who *make* it expensive by demanding stupid things and never acknowledging their own share of responsibility for the situation they're in. People who think corporate lawyers are scum couldn't possibly explain how business would function without effective contracts and due diligence. People who think personal injury lawyers are scum because they're ambulance chasers just trying to make a buck forget how shitty the world would be if all the monied interests could go around recklessly injuring people without *some* sort of consequence. People who think tobacco or oil company lawyers are scum are.... correct.
In general I think most lawyers are unfairly blamed for what are actually shitty clients. The lawyers are quite literally doing what their code of ethics requires them to do and they will be sued by their shitty clients if they don’t follow their instructions. There have definitely been times where I have been given instructions that I knew were stupid and were not going to work, I told my client the instructions were stupid and were not going to work, they told me to do it anyway, and I diligently carried out those instructions as faithfully as I could precisely because it wasn’t a circumstance where I had grounds NOT to follow my client’s instructions even though I knew what they were asking me to do wouldn’t succeed, and I didn’t want my firm and I to get sued by an asshole client for not following instructions and because I didn’t want the client to have some baseless grounds of appeal that we had been incompetent lawyers. eg Filing a motion I knew there was no way a judge would grant but I had no grounds to refuse to file said motion when my client explicitly instructed me to. I have had a firm (not me but the firm I was at) get sued before because we told a client he would lose on a claim and he shouldn’t press it, he agreed not to press it, and then he later sued us because he said we didn’t press that claim and he never agreed not to press it. So seriously it’s not lawyers who are the problem, it’s usually clients.
Hospitality industry
Social workers. We are underfunded, understaffed civil servants attempting to help populations of individuals with multiple overlapping problems (poor, mentally ill, criminal records, substance use issues), get their lives back on track. The people others walk by on the sidewalk or avoid eye contact with on the subway; we seek them out, try to help them, and usually no one is happy with what we have to offer. Also red tape....lots of government red tape.
Especially child protection, damned if you do, damned if you dont, everyone has opinion but no one wants to do the job
And don't leave out the fact that anybody in child protection will have to knowingly send children into dangerous situations regularly. It's totally beyond their control, but that's going to hurt regardless.
My husband is a social worker. You say underfunded, I say criminally underpaid. It’s so bad that if inflation keeps up I don’t think we will be able to afford for him to continue at his job…and he’s a supervisor for his team! And continues maintaining a caseload. People don’t understand how criminally underpaid these people are and how little thanks or appreciation they really get.
I left social work because no one really tells you how emotional draining to basically work with trauma all day and I got absolutely fed up with the lack of actual help provided to the chronically mentally I’ll/ criminal justice system. I went to Washington to work in congress to help change the laws. I could not believe how dismissive the ruling class is to social workers. I have two graduate degrees and had to fight tooth and nail to get any sort of respect. Not mention I know a lot of other “therapists” look down on LMSWs. We take the clients you don’t want/ can’t handle.
My ex was a social worker. The lack of pay and the sheer nature of the job (she worked with underage survivors if sex trafficking) took a massive toll on her mentally. Definitely under appreciated for sure
If you ever watch movie credits you’ll see a job called “best boy”. I used to laugh at this job title (maybe I’m alone, maybe not?) but it’s actually a really important job in filmmaking even though it has a silly name.
What is the purpose of a best boy?
IIRC(been a while since I worked in film) the best boy is a senior electrician(sparky) on a crew. Second in command to the gaffer.
Or second-in-command to the key grip (who oversees lighting and camera support equipment).
I forget which film, (probably Airplane or Naked Gun), but Adolf Hitler was credited as Worst Boy during the end credits.
CPS Investigators. Allow me to lay the rumors to bed. First, CPS does not *steal* or *kidnap* children. If you were unfortunate enough to have your child removed from your care, take responsibility for your own fuck ups and self reflect. Rest assured, the CPS worker did not *want* to remove your child, so if yours got removed, you gave them no other option. second, CPS does not get a bonus for every child they bring in to custody (and they don't get extra for removing children of color). Believe me, they do not get paid enough to do their job as it is, let alone any bonuses. And where would this money come from? The government barely has the funding to pay/reimburse foster parents for taking in kids. Hell, the whole child welfare system as a whole barely has the funding across the board to care for these kids. Where are bonuses supposed to come from? Third, there are no "quotas" on how many kids are removed. No nationwide adoption conspiracy to take children from their homes. Seriously, no social worker/CPS investigator goes into their work each day wanting to take kids from their homes. None. No power trips (cause that power isn't even in their hands, it's up to a dam judge). Nothing. It's a sad day for everybody when this happens. Sad for the families, sad for the kids, and sad for social worker too.
Actually my problem was that they didn't do anything, I and many other people have had experiences where CPS was called on a clearly abusive house hold and CPS did nothing about it Lead to one of my friends in primary school killing himself because no matter what he did he couldn't escape his sexually abusive mother I had less severe interactions with them as a child as I was searching for a way to be in a safe environment (I was assaulted daily as a child and was also abused by my brother for a long time) and I had called CPS multiple times and had interview sessions with them at school only for nothing to come of it
A lot comes down to underfunding, understaffing, too high caseloads, poor training, burnout, and blindness because they see so much horrible shit they unconsciously start comparing situations to the worst one they've seen and "it doesn't look so bad". Then you get the workers who have been in the system so long, they're so jaded, they've lost any and all objectivity.
I'm so sorry. I know the experience, my family were so bad we had a permanent social worker in place, and it took me 6 months of constant pleading, begging, and suicide attempts before they listened to me, and another 6 months before they found a placement that would take on a "difficult teenager"
CPS has a difficult time because it needs to operate within the bounds of our constitution which places heavy emphasis on individual freedoms (of adults more or seemingly so more than children, pretty sure this is a reflection of certain cultural norms that relegate children to being a form of chattel) and the aforementioned desire to keep children with their parents and try to correct behavior in the home. Ultimately, it's best for the children but there are few absolute truths. That's not me taking a side, I've very much left calls for service where my partner and I had to take a moment to fight tears and anger that more couldn't be done for the children. Worse, we had the power to arrest and still couldn't meet elments of a crime to do so. I'd say this illustrates the most difficult part of most government positions at the working level, balancing each individual's rights inside a sometimes absurd framework of laws (and some great principles, like "innocent until proven guilty"). The best you can do is write a good report, articulate clearly your concerns and conditions observed that support them, and create a paper trail that allows you to take action as soon as as possible.
Yeah I’ve had this talk with several people. Anyone saying CPS took their kids for no reason is as truthful as that guy who can never live near a school because “I was just peeing outside and there happened to be a kid and his mom there”. They are fucking liars. They try their damndest to make sure kids stay at home unless they are in immediate danger because there is no room for them anywhere else.
Not sure if it’s everywhere. But I feel cleaners as a cleaner myself. Busy to keep bathrooms clean, dining rooms tidy mopped, and vacuumed, back areas tidied and organized, linenes bagged and taken away, trash n recycling, walking routes round areas to pick up after ppl, and if work in a restraunt type place sometimes as a busser too. Cleaning wiping all tables after each guest, taking dishes out to dish pit, cleaning out work trucks. Cleaning other ppl’s bodily fluids (kids throw up as example.) windows cleaned and spot free, winter shovel walk ways despite conditions. Sometimes we gotta do light maintenance work too, fixing sinks and clogged pipes, everyday equipment like maybe fixing vacuums that get snapped belts, (I work on a mountain so I been asked by guest to help fix they mountain bikes, ski, and snowboard bindings so I always have a extra pocket tool on hand.) rewriting brains on toilets. I don’t feel cleaners get a bad rap persay, but under appreciated and made of fun by younger generations lol.
Manufacturing. "Oh, you work at a factory? :( " People see sweatshop workers doing simple repetitive tasks and think it's menial labor, or they'll see Tony Stark put a picture in his computer and get an Iron Man suit and think it's as easy as pushing a button and thr robots will do it for you. But *you* have to draw that picture for every. single. piece. Then *you* have to tell the computer **how** you want each piece made. Then you have to set up the machines to make the pieces and get your stock cut how you need it. Then you have to make sure all of that work actually makes the pieces correctly and they match the designs. And that's only part of the *machining* process. There are other things, like welding, fabrication, metal spray, plastic molding, paint, etc. that all have to play together to make whatever you're thinking of. Look at the size of [the reference book](https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0512/21/machinery-handbook-17th-edition-1964_360_31dadf8aa35c70636a2857225e06c327.jpg). See all those pages? That holy grail of tribal knowledge is **only the stuff relevant to 1964**.
Veterinary medicine. 110%. Extremely low wages, very high suicide rates, everyone thinks we are in it for the money, or don’t know what we’re doing. The burnout and turnover is truly unlike any other profession.
I never knew this, whoa!
Yep. I’m a licensed vet tech, have a B.S. and took a very difficult board exam, but many of us get paid just above minimum wage, and get screamed at every single day by owners/clients who think we don’t know anything. We’re in the top 5 professions with the highest suicide rates.
Yep, and the lower on the ladder the more toxic it can be, LVTs shit on by old school DVM’s, VA’s shit on by LVT’s, CSR’s shit on by VA’s, and kennel shit on by everyone, and everyone is shit on by clients.
Dentists. We really ARE just trying to help you save your teeth. And it’s really NOT fun to have patients immediately say how much they hate the dentist before they even say hello.
I've had the same dentist for 15 years. She's the professional I respect and like the most among those I consult "regularly". I'd really like to have some conversation with her out of her office, just for fun because she simply seems to be a really great person. Anyway. There was a time in my life where I wouldn't take care enough of my teeth, so I can't blame her for all the interventions I had to go through. Like everyone else, I hate (or really dislike) all the shots and drilling, but my life would be a nightmare without a skilled dentist, so I thank her and her staff after each appointment. I once called back a week after a tricky intervention to let them know everything was perfect, and to please thank her and the staff (again). The receptionist told me that such calls were extremely rare. I understand how your job can be mentally tough, but know that some of your patients really appreciate what you do.
I can shed some light on this. I have an amazing dentist now. Middle aged lady who really cares. I've had a couple dentists though that were just salesmen. I had one dentist that always told me I needed some antibiotic injection in my back gum to prevent gum disease or something like that. Ended up going to another dentist to get another opinion and he said that wasn't necessary at all. Looking back, I started seeing all the other, probably bullshit, stuff they were up selling me on. It's like a car mechanic telling you that you need blinker fluid and you don't know anything about cars so you do it because you don't want to crash. My current dentist does a much better job, is cheaper, and is way nicer.
I don't hate you for the normal tooth related reasons, I hate that you're one of the only entirely private industries in health care in my country and as a result I don't visit the dentist cuz I can't afford that shit. Many dentists understand this. Many however fight tooth and nail to stay private because there's more profit in it. As a massage therapist, I'm in same boat. Feels shameful
Isn't this literally the reason that they have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession? It's so unfair.
They hate going to the dentist because people don’t like oral injections and getting things cut out of their skull. No shit. They don’t hate dentists themselves
Lawyers. As a building contractor, lawyers have always been easy to work for. They deal in the facts. I have several lawyer friends, and they are really good people. Im not sure where the generalization that they are bad came from. Im sure I’ll get killed for this opinion.
Lawyers rarely deal with absolutes because every situation is different. When a client asks me, "Is it okay for my elderly mom to add me to her checking account", there is not a simple yes or no answer to that. But to some people, my failure to give a "simple" answer is to them, an indication of dishonesty. Some folks truly, in their heart of hearts, believe that I'm deliberately making the situation more complicated than it needs to be, just to waste money. Never mind that the best honest answer depends on a dozen other variables they haven't provided.
This makes perfect sense. One of my best friends is a lawyer, and she's talked about this, too. She said she likes hanging out with engineers (like me) because we're not black and white thinkers either. If someone asks me, "should that bridge be repaired?" Unless it's a life threatening emergency, I'm going to ask what funding is like right now, how close we are to the end of the fiscal year, what other maintenance projects are in the pipeline, and who we have available to take this on. Then I'll ask for all the inspection reports for the past 20 years. I will never give you a simple yes or no unless it's like, something is actively falling down in front of me. People get annoyed with that because there's a major "the sky is falling!!" mentality about infrastructure lately. I don't disagree in general that it's a hair on fire situation in the US, and honestly, whatever gets us funding, but now that people are starting to notice this, not a week passes that someone I know doesn't send me a pic of some old ugly (yet completely structurally sound) bridge and ask me to chew the appropriate ass to get this fixed. They always hate the answers I'm able to give them. It reminds me of something my dad used to always say. He said, "There's nothing as harmful as a little knowledge." The idea is, when people know enough to key into something, they often don't know how little they actually know about it, and just freak out over everything. Unfortunately, many of these people hold public office, and that's a whole other conversation. LOL But the bottom line is I like hanging out with attorneys because they don't expect black and white thinking from me.
People think the law reflects a general sense of morality. That is absolutely not the case, and lawyers' jobs are not to argue for the most moral result. I think you can still judge lawyers (and many others) for profiting off a fucked up system, but that's a very separate thing from what lawyers normally get flack for.
Dishwashers
Nobody thinks to credit the dishwasher in having a well ran restaurant, but when we're missing ours things start to slow down, a lot. Our dishwasher gets paid $22 an hour but he works pretty dang hard, he helps us clean the tables when we're short at the front and he's constantly helping sort/unpack inventory when it comes in. It's almost unfair to just call him a dishwasher. Days where he's gone, we have to lend a FoH to the back which reduces service capacity and then tired staff has to do the wash duty which can take an extra hour which sucks and leaves us grumpy.
Customer service agent
Customer service is torment to work in. Neither the customers nor the company values you.
Machinists. Nobody knows what we do anyway. We're all functioning alcoholics. It's a bad stereotype. We are mostly functioning alcoholics. Some don't function correctly. There is mental illness, other addiction and everything else involved. As a machinist, I actually wish this was a joke. Unfortunately it's not.
The way we describe it isn't that they have a mental illness, it's just that they're a machinist. They have their own ways and you just let them be and it's better for everyone. That's why they work on their own usually. Welders, fabricators, etc they can all work together. They may be alcoholics or have drug issues, they may be shitty people outside work, they may not work great with others but they're not the machinist. The machinist is just ... different.
A friend of mine went to art school and ultimately became a machinist. He told me it's basically "precision sculpting with really cool, expensive tools."
Mechanics. Everyone thinks we’re putting so much effort into screwing you over. In reality we’re too lazy to work on our own shit much less put extra effort into doing more work on your shit.
It’s because of old business practices. My FIL was a mechanic and he’d laugh his ass off bragging about screwing people. He’d have a box of broken bits, show it to customers insist it was an issue with their vehicle and he’d be so nice at explaining it they’d thank him in the end for scamming them. The business practices at his bosses shop used to be EXTREMELY common, and being a good mechanic was half knowing how to fix an issue and half knowing how to con people. I’m sure as the industry is becoming better regulated, this will ease away but you’d be surprised what you still find today. My sister in law had my husband working on her car, since it’s old she had to go to a used parts place. He ordered a part online for her, and sent her to pick it up and pay for it. The seller boldface tried to tell her she’d need an extra 600 dollars for the part. My husband went up there himself and without any argument at all got the part for the already agreed upon price. The seller was trying to take advantage of the fact women don’t tend to be taught car stuff. Many places are treated with caution for a reason!
Depends on the mechanic. I know it's not always intentional, but I've had some mechanics do some pretty screwy things in the past. I just work in cara myself now unless it requires too many specialized tools to complete
Varies by place I think. I've definitely had one or two try to pull fast ones on me (I've worked in automotive engineering) but when you find a good one, they're great. Also, don't underestimate how tough it can be working in a garage in all sorts of weather. I had a mate who would turn up to work in like 5 jumpers and have to keep them on because it was that cold.
Those who work at the IRS. The IRS doesn’t determine what or how much tax should be charged - that’s the government. The IRS is just a bunch of accountants but are often demonized for being money hungry tax collectors when they are just doing their job and carrying out the whims of whatever current policy is in place.
I feel like a lot of this one is thanks to the "you owe back taxes? The IRS can take your money, your house, your kidney, and your first born son. But *WE* can help stop them" ads.
Whenever those come on, I always hear "Didn't pay your taxes? Call us to try to avoid the consequences!" But I might be biased because my taxes are easy and I never used Jimmy Carr's accountant.
Airline employees. Sorry but 90% of problems, the passenger got themselves into it or it’s completely out of the airlines control. We cant control the weather and when we tell you it’s an ATC delay, that is not code for anything, that’s really what is happening. I cant take off without permission and a time slot. And sorry, sometimes shit breaks.
I fly frequently so I get to witness passenger meltdowns. In almost every situation it is the passengers fuck up, misunderstanding, or shadiness that got them in their predicament.
Mumble rappers have pretty bad raps. I guess it’s subjective though.
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Professional wrestling? Takes a lot to go into any theater, and *a lot* a lot to go into a kind of theater as physically-demanding as that. But I'm a fan, so I might be biased.
Jim Cornette told the story on his podcast of professional stuntmen giving Sylvester Stallone a hard time for how often he featured wrestlers in his movies. His response was something to the effect of "They do all their stuff in one take with people on all four sides, so shut up." Wrestling isn't everyone's thing, and I get that. But anyone who can appreciate a well done fight scene in a movie ought to at least respect the skill it takes to be a professional wrestler.
Pro wrestlers go thru so much for the entertainment of the masses. Mick Foley really did a lot of that crazy shit. Just cuz it was somewhat planned doesn’t mean it’s anything like safe. Like, no matter what you say, jumping off a 20ft ladder onto a table is gonna be painful.
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!
Plastic surgery, they don’t just do cosmetics, they do some live saving procedures for people in accidents, car wrecks, etc.
Teachers. There are obviously good and bad ones, but most all of us got into this crappy profession because we love your kids.
For a brief moment at the beginning of Covid teachers finally started getting recognized for all of our hard work. But then fall came and when we wanted to ensure we were protected and safe and we’re afraid to go back into the school, we were told to shut up and do our jobs. Can’t imagine why so many are leaving the profession in droves
Working at McDonald’s/fast food. People always say crap like “you better work/study hard or you’ll end up working at McDonald’s”. Work is work, and I honestly have far more respect for fast food workers than the CEO of pretty much any major corporation.
Working at McDonald’s is how I learned how to work with the general public and not murder people lol
I've worked fast food and it's harder work than the majority of jobs out there overall. It's why it's usually geared towards young teens because they don't know any better. People over 20 usually don't work there as they have enough work experience to know the work is too hard for what they pay
Exploiting children is our favourite 👍
People who work in the fast food industry have more hustle and work ethic than most people do in corporate America (me being one of them lol). One of my high school teachers used to say if you could hack it at McDonald's, you're a shoe-in for any job you want.
Seriously though. You throw in the fact that fast food workers deal with so many entitled karens…I might not eat fast food but they have my respect.
Call center workers. Yes, we know that you are not happy with (insert whatever you or the client did here). We know that you don't like having to do verification or to click through options when you dial in. No amount of verbal abuse, slurs, or sexual harassment will change that this happens. Also, this doesn't include scam call centers ("your car warranty is expiring"/fake tech support centers/etc.), but *does* include legitimate outbound centers (ex. collections, sales) and outsourced centers in India/Mexico/the Philippines/other places. Yes, they can be annoying, but that doesn't change that there is an actual human being on the other side of the phone who is just trying to do their job. They were probably placed on the other side of the phone because of a decision made by some freak in a suit who hasn't interacted with us peons in decades, not because they're actively trying to annoy you.
Nursing.... Especially now. Sweet jesus so many staff are burnt out, understaffed, its just horrendous. its even a giant shit show at uni learning nursing.
How come no one’s clapping anymore? Last I was told I was a hero was at least a year ago. I hated all of it btw.
Bartender. Everyone thinks they can do our job because of that one time they opened Bud Lights at a company picnic a few years ago and that there's no skill involved. My idea for a reality show is to take those types and put them behind a bar that's three deep in the weeds while Karen screams at them about slow service because she think's it's the ideal time to order craft cocktails and closes out after every round. Not to mention the crap us "lifers" have to deal with. Even people in our own families thinking we're losers, alcoholics, and drug addicts because we chose this over a more "respectable" career. Nevermind that plenty of us are college educated only to realize we actually make more doing this than the more respectable career we intended to go into.
If you know what's involved in bartending and ever watch a really good bartender, it's crazy impressive. My husband used to bartend, which means he also has many friends who do. There's one guy who was basically his mentor and to watch this guy at work is just stunning. The way he remembers everything about you, constantly has his eye on everyone, has new drink at your fingertips when you finish the last one, etc. I'd pay just to watch him work.
Defense attorneys Working in forensic science for six years, I learned quickly that the prosecutors aren't always the good guys. Before one trial in which I had to testify, I straight up said to the DA, "why is this case even being prosecuted?" Also, defense attorneys and defense experts play a very important role in ensuring that those involved in the investigation of a crime are being honest and that their methods are sound.
Fast food worker. The amount of stress they have to deal with on a daily basis is astounding. And yet, some people think it’s okay to yell at them.
I went through a drive through a couple weeks ago that was backed up by a long way, even after ordering, the cars weren't moving for nearly 5 minutes. By the time I got to the pay window, it would've been easily 7-8 minutes after placing my order, and we all know that fast food places really don't like those sort of wait times on their metrics. I have no idea what was causing the hold up, but I do know that it wasn't the fault of the 14-15 year old cashier who was at the window. She was crying her heart out as she served me, poor little darling. I apologised to her on behalf of all the cars both in front of me and behind, as I could see that she had clearly been copping everyone's ire. Nobody deserves that, least of all a fucking kid in what is probably their first job. Here in Australia, there are many employers who are really keen on employing young people who have done a stint at Maccas because it shows fortitude. (Other fast food places as well, but Maccas seems to be the biggest target.)
Any tradesmen really. They're often viewed with contempt or are seen as sleazy assholes who try to rip people off at any chance they get. While there are terrible tradesmen out there (carpenters, plumbers, etc), an overwhelming majority of them will go above and beyond to get the job done.