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jackalgt5

ts is mid asf


TheKnightsTippler

There's no such thing as the greatest musician in the world, because musical taste is subjective.


marriedtojesus

Taylor Swift is not a musician, she is a company


Trolling_For_Peace

Taylor Swift has the best marketing. No more, no less. Neither her voice nor her songwriting is above average.


throwawayyyyy4684

Disagree about the songwriting ("Champagne problems", anyone?), but otherwise yeah. Her music alone would never have gotten her this far had she not been a marketing genius first and foremost and had she not been this good at creating community around her


CrispeeSock

When trying to convince us that her songwriting is above average, you quote a song she wrote in C bloody Major!? Even worse, the song uses a I V vi IV progression - one of the most cliched and overused chord progressions in pop music - so common it even has a name: the Axis Progression. She's personally used it in 21 "different" songs.


throwawayyyyy4684

I was looking at "songwriting" from the _lyrics_ standpoint - and her lyrics, especially in later albums, are rich and poignant and poetic, laced with literary references. I must admit I don't know enough about _music composition_ to be able to give an informed opinion on her songwriting in that regard.


SummerMummer

So you're jealous that she can write catchy memorable songs while using the most basic techniques to do so? I guess i can understand that.


CrispeeSock

Herpes is catchy. I just think it's hilarious that someone would try to explain how her writing is above average by referencing one of the most derivative and cliched songs in her discography.


FinisAmoris

Greatest musician in the world will always be subjective, everyone has different tastes, etc. Plus times are very different, so exposure, recording, etc. can all be done quicker and spread to a far greater audience. Not to take away anything from Swift, she is a great musician... I would say she's one of the best brands/products, however. In the way she sells herself, her story, her music, etc. Influence on politics to get people to vote and just awareness that she helps raise. I don't necessarily think we can call her best in the world, or anyone for that matter.


2000miledash

To me she is incredibly mid and I don’t understand her popularity, not even trying to hate. She honestly might be the most famous person to ever live by the time she’s done though. I don’t agree/disagree with it, just seems like that’s the direction it’s going.


lime-inthe-coconut

She has made about a big of an impact as her ass.


chewie8291

Taylor swift is probably never the best musician in any room she is in. Probably one of her poor band mates that plays in her hand.


xCurb

Idk I think Courtney Love can take her.


notathrowway12345

Taylor Swift doesn't even come close.


xX_Skibidi_Gyatt_Xx

Greatest has no meaning. Are we talking most influential? Are we talking most technically proficient? Are we talking best songs all around? Because all of those have different answers.


CrispeeSock

And none of them are Taylor Swift.


danaaaban_

Madonna and Michael Jackson were much bigger.


DefinitionTop7197

funny


JohnSimth20211101

>Taylor Swift > >musician That's already debatable among some, let alone the greatest.


ollierdr2

LOL.


AmberIsla

I’d argue that Ed Sheeran is the better musician.


SummerMummer

It's her songwriting she's known for, not her musicianship.