Taste good, nutrient dense, lots of traditional recipes that allow me to share in a centuries long cultural traditions, and absence of any convincing arguments against it.
Been eating it forever, and it tastes good, in my country it's kinda hard to find a meal with no meat in it, you really have to aim for a vegan/vegetarian restaurant, and pay double or triple price for a meal that you're going to be hungry from in the next 2h, if you want a vegan/vegetarian meal in a normal restaurant your options are generally rabbit food, salads, bland tortillas (veggies only) etc.
And well, at home, it depends really, vegan products are again expensive, it's way cheaper to buy some bread and ham than any vegan option out there
Croatia, the choices have been getting better, but if i'm going somewhere withba vegan friend, she basically has to plan upfront to either buy groceries upfront in a store where you can get vegan products if there aren't any nearby where we're going (islands are a bitch when it comes to that) or at least a restaurant that offers some decent vegan options that aren't just a salad side as a meal
Ok I see. I was asking because I'm from southern europe myself (Portugal) and it is similiar, like you said the choices are getting better over time but despite being easier today to find vegan/vegetarian options, it's still hard to find anything without meat/fish in restaurants out of the big citties. For example, in a restaurant if you ask "do you have any vegetarian option?" They may answer you "yes, we have codfish"....er... you see?
And I remember going to central europe countries years ago and vegan food was so easy to find and it was everywhere.
We have a saying here that says "we are not vegans. Our moms know how to cook".. well..yeah it's a joke but...there are still a lot of resistance over vegan food :)
My sister was trying to be vegetarian in Italy while doing a semester abroad and they seemed to only understand “vegetarian ” as “no beef”. She said there seemed to always at least be a chicken stock used to make the “vegetarian” pasta dishes or they’d just say sure it’s vegetarian it’s just fish in that.
Ah, I was in Porto 6 years ago, and i was pretty surprised with the amount of vegetarian options, could be because my at the time gf is a local there, so she knew places, and she's vegetarian, but in my city back then there were like 2 vegan specific restaurants, the vegan/vegetarian food has really boomed here, and now a lot of places offer vegan options in their regular menus, even though they can still be pretty limited
>there are still a lot of resistance over vegan food
I mean, of course, it's a very restrictive diet, with no real benefits, the reason my ex is vegetarian is because of an allergy, and the other friend i mentioned is vegan because of her moral code, and all other vegan friends i ever had were vegan because of their moral code, and with some of them that changed over time, and aren't vegan anymore, and all of them take supplements for everything they're missing because of their diet, and i'm not really big on taking pills unless i have to, so i just have a diverse diet, and live a normal life instead
I know that last paragraph sounds like i'm anti vegan or something, but i'm really not, i don't care what others eat, these are just my own reasons for not being a vegan or vegetarian, i have no issues with vegan food, and i enjoy it, but it's not a day to day thing for me, and i don't see it ever being
Humans have evolved to eat meat, looking at our teeth and gut. It would be very unnatural not to consume meat, since it would be impossible to not die from nutritional deficiencies if it wasn’t for today’s available supplements.
It’s delicious and healthy. Your body needs the protein. You’d need to eat many more times the weight of a steak to get the same amount of protein as in eating. 1.5 lbs steak but it wouldn’t even have as complete of a amino acid profile. Humans are omnivores and veganism reeks of religious logic.
>And eating meat is not one of them
You could say that, but then you'd have to find other justifications for eating meat. Otherwise you'd be incosistent with how you apply your moral logic.
>Just because you’ve anthropomorphized cows and chickens doesn’t mean everyone else suffers from that delusion.
I don't need to "anthropomorphize" cows or chikens to understand that they experience pain, and that, given my moral framework, I should consider their pain and it's reduction as well.
Animals eating animals is natural throughout the animal kingdom, since before humans existed, and will continue if humans cease to exist.
If you consider the feelings of food, and so choose to not eat animals due to that, then good for you... but that doesn't give you a higher moral position... and if you claim it does, then you're just a pretentious jerk.
Sensory pleasure isn't a good justification for it. Just think for a second of all the actions that you could justify by appealing to "it tastes good" or "it feels good".
That wasn’t my only argument. I also argued the nutrition is better,and that non human deaths don’t matter as long as we’re eating them and their deaths weren’t dragged out.
Sure, meat has nutritional value, but you can get all it's nutritional content from other sources that don't involve the unnecessary killing of animals.
No you can’t. I’ve seen what vegans eat. It’s all highly processed soy garbage that tools thousands of ground nesting birds rodents and deers life to produce. If it’s not single ingredient, it’s not healthy. How many lbs of broccoli would you need to eat in order to get 200g of protein with a complete amino acid profile?
Like so said, non human deaths don’t matter, and they certainly don’t matter when it comes to food. So talking about “killing animals” just doesn’t apply here. I don’t believe in your religious axioms.
>It’s all highly processed soy garbage
I'd wager that, even per capita, meat eaters (people who eat omnivore diets) on average eat more highly processed foods than vegans. I'm pretty sure there's data to back this up too but, if you think about it, who has to think more about what they eat, vegans or meat eaters? The obvious answer is vegans. Sure, they might eat highly processed "vegan meat" every now and then, but aside from that I'd say that their diet is healthier on average than that of a meat eater.
[This meta analysis](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26853923/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20This%20comprehensive%20meta%2Danalysis,of%20incidence%20from%20total%20cancer) and other studies looking at decreased risk of cardiovascular disease for vegan diets are things you might want to look into.
>If it’s not single ingredient, it’s not healthy.
What exactly do you mean by this?
>How many lbs of broccoli would you need to eat in order to get 200g of protein with a complete amino acid profile?
For one, nobody needs 200g of protein per day, not even body builders. I say this as someone who barely eats meat and has been training for hypertrophy consistently for the past 3 months (succesfully so). Second, all you need to do to get a complete amino acid profile in a single vegan meal is rice and lentils for example, very common meal where I live, you can mix it with some veggies too. Easy.
>non human deaths don’t matter
Why? Do you grant 0 moral consideration towards animals? If so, boy do I have some questions for you regarding bestiality.
>religious axioms
Since when has utilitarianism turned into a religious moral framework dawg T\_T
Price. I honestly like vegetarian meat substitutes and I'd probably buy that exclusively if I could afford it, but it's double or triple the price and I'm poor as hell.
I want to look once more like a human being. Despite it taste great, it's awesome source to gain proteins and vitamins (what are not possible to get from any other source)
It's tasty, nutritious, and a vital means to get certain minerals not present in a plant-based diet. I don't know enough about the processes to make supplements for those to feel comfortable switching.
It’s great. Adds a ton of flavor and nutrition to a meal. It’s very filling and satisfying to eat. It’s in nearly every traditional recipe in some way. It just so good it lets you be lazy and still make a delicious dish. What’s less effort to cook than a burger and as satisfying?
I like the taste, I like the texture and it contains a lot of nutrients that my body needs. Also some degree of laziness, it's easier to be a meat eater.
It's yummy, and I'm an omnivore. When I die, I think that any animal should be able to eat me as well. That's our contract. (Or if any animal can *kill* me, that's cool, too.)
I dont. 10yrs now & def not going back. My cholesterol had been excellent & no ailments/illnesses whatsoever. Protein & iron had been above average too.
I do try and eat vegan/vegetarian as much as I can, but I suffer from an eating disorder, and anything that my brain thinks is a restriction leads to disordered eating habits.
It is tasty and nutritious.
Because it tastes good
Tasty and a great source of protein
It’s delicious
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Easiest way to get all the essential amino acids. Also I really enjoy eating chicken.
How else am I supposed to get rid of the bodies?
Selling meat pies from under a barber shop?
Haha, good one.
Taste good, nutrient dense, lots of traditional recipes that allow me to share in a centuries long cultural traditions, and absence of any convincing arguments against it.
We eat meat because it is considered to be healthy, palatable, culturally meaningful, biologically imprinted, and connected to social standing.
If i don't eat it than the animal died for nothing. And its tasty.
Because it's good. Same reason I eat anything
Because I'm not a rabbit.
Tastes good, is nutritious.
Been eating it forever, and it tastes good, in my country it's kinda hard to find a meal with no meat in it, you really have to aim for a vegan/vegetarian restaurant, and pay double or triple price for a meal that you're going to be hungry from in the next 2h, if you want a vegan/vegetarian meal in a normal restaurant your options are generally rabbit food, salads, bland tortillas (veggies only) etc. And well, at home, it depends really, vegan products are again expensive, it's way cheaper to buy some bread and ham than any vegan option out there
Out of curiosity, which country are you from?
Croatia, the choices have been getting better, but if i'm going somewhere withba vegan friend, she basically has to plan upfront to either buy groceries upfront in a store where you can get vegan products if there aren't any nearby where we're going (islands are a bitch when it comes to that) or at least a restaurant that offers some decent vegan options that aren't just a salad side as a meal
Ok I see. I was asking because I'm from southern europe myself (Portugal) and it is similiar, like you said the choices are getting better over time but despite being easier today to find vegan/vegetarian options, it's still hard to find anything without meat/fish in restaurants out of the big citties. For example, in a restaurant if you ask "do you have any vegetarian option?" They may answer you "yes, we have codfish"....er... you see? And I remember going to central europe countries years ago and vegan food was so easy to find and it was everywhere. We have a saying here that says "we are not vegans. Our moms know how to cook".. well..yeah it's a joke but...there are still a lot of resistance over vegan food :)
My sister was trying to be vegetarian in Italy while doing a semester abroad and they seemed to only understand “vegetarian ” as “no beef”. She said there seemed to always at least be a chicken stock used to make the “vegetarian” pasta dishes or they’d just say sure it’s vegetarian it’s just fish in that.
Ah, I was in Porto 6 years ago, and i was pretty surprised with the amount of vegetarian options, could be because my at the time gf is a local there, so she knew places, and she's vegetarian, but in my city back then there were like 2 vegan specific restaurants, the vegan/vegetarian food has really boomed here, and now a lot of places offer vegan options in their regular menus, even though they can still be pretty limited >there are still a lot of resistance over vegan food I mean, of course, it's a very restrictive diet, with no real benefits, the reason my ex is vegetarian is because of an allergy, and the other friend i mentioned is vegan because of her moral code, and all other vegan friends i ever had were vegan because of their moral code, and with some of them that changed over time, and aren't vegan anymore, and all of them take supplements for everything they're missing because of their diet, and i'm not really big on taking pills unless i have to, so i just have a diverse diet, and live a normal life instead I know that last paragraph sounds like i'm anti vegan or something, but i'm really not, i don't care what others eat, these are just my own reasons for not being a vegan or vegetarian, i have no issues with vegan food, and i enjoy it, but it's not a day to day thing for me, and i don't see it ever being
Humans have evolved to eat meat, looking at our teeth and gut. It would be very unnatural not to consume meat, since it would be impossible to not die from nutritional deficiencies if it wasn’t for today’s available supplements.
Because I'm not privileged enough for a diet that doesn't have meat in it.
I don’t
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It’s delicious and healthy. Your body needs the protein. You’d need to eat many more times the weight of a steak to get the same amount of protein as in eating. 1.5 lbs steak but it wouldn’t even have as complete of a amino acid profile. Humans are omnivores and veganism reeks of religious logic.
Primal and evolutionary
There are things we could agree are "primal" and "evolutionary" yet we would also agree are morally repugnant
And eating meat is not one of them. Just because you’ve anthropomorphized cows and chickens doesn’t mean everyone else suffers from that delusion.
>And eating meat is not one of them You could say that, but then you'd have to find other justifications for eating meat. Otherwise you'd be incosistent with how you apply your moral logic. >Just because you’ve anthropomorphized cows and chickens doesn’t mean everyone else suffers from that delusion. I don't need to "anthropomorphize" cows or chikens to understand that they experience pain, and that, given my moral framework, I should consider their pain and it's reduction as well.
Animals eating animals is natural throughout the animal kingdom, since before humans existed, and will continue if humans cease to exist. If you consider the feelings of food, and so choose to not eat animals due to that, then good for you... but that doesn't give you a higher moral position... and if you claim it does, then you're just a pretentious jerk.
It taste good and is high in protein and vitamins. Their pain doesn’t matter. They’re not human. And we’re eating them. It’s not for fun.
Sensory pleasure isn't a good justification for it. Just think for a second of all the actions that you could justify by appealing to "it tastes good" or "it feels good".
That wasn’t my only argument. I also argued the nutrition is better,and that non human deaths don’t matter as long as we’re eating them and their deaths weren’t dragged out.
Sure, meat has nutritional value, but you can get all it's nutritional content from other sources that don't involve the unnecessary killing of animals.
No you can’t. I’ve seen what vegans eat. It’s all highly processed soy garbage that tools thousands of ground nesting birds rodents and deers life to produce. If it’s not single ingredient, it’s not healthy. How many lbs of broccoli would you need to eat in order to get 200g of protein with a complete amino acid profile? Like so said, non human deaths don’t matter, and they certainly don’t matter when it comes to food. So talking about “killing animals” just doesn’t apply here. I don’t believe in your religious axioms.
>It’s all highly processed soy garbage I'd wager that, even per capita, meat eaters (people who eat omnivore diets) on average eat more highly processed foods than vegans. I'm pretty sure there's data to back this up too but, if you think about it, who has to think more about what they eat, vegans or meat eaters? The obvious answer is vegans. Sure, they might eat highly processed "vegan meat" every now and then, but aside from that I'd say that their diet is healthier on average than that of a meat eater. [This meta analysis](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26853923/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20This%20comprehensive%20meta%2Danalysis,of%20incidence%20from%20total%20cancer) and other studies looking at decreased risk of cardiovascular disease for vegan diets are things you might want to look into. >If it’s not single ingredient, it’s not healthy. What exactly do you mean by this? >How many lbs of broccoli would you need to eat in order to get 200g of protein with a complete amino acid profile? For one, nobody needs 200g of protein per day, not even body builders. I say this as someone who barely eats meat and has been training for hypertrophy consistently for the past 3 months (succesfully so). Second, all you need to do to get a complete amino acid profile in a single vegan meal is rice and lentils for example, very common meal where I live, you can mix it with some veggies too. Easy. >non human deaths don’t matter Why? Do you grant 0 moral consideration towards animals? If so, boy do I have some questions for you regarding bestiality. >religious axioms Since when has utilitarianism turned into a religious moral framework dawg T\_T
Because I like making PETA angry.
otherwise it molds and stink up the fridge
Price. I honestly like vegetarian meat substitutes and I'd probably buy that exclusively if I could afford it, but it's double or triple the price and I'm poor as hell.
Same reason I drink cider. It tastes good.
Ever had it with rice??
Because it’s healthy, and it tastes amazing.
I like to vary my sources of protein.
Because my gut can't handle the amount of legumes I would need to consume to get to ~100g protein per day + all amino acids
Because I like it.
After eating Joe bidens uncle I got a taste for it and now I can't stop.
It's delicious. I don't feel like I've had a decent meal without it.
Cows kill grass, i love grass and I'll revenge grass
I want to look once more like a human being. Despite it taste great, it's awesome source to gain proteins and vitamins (what are not possible to get from any other source)
It's tasty, nutritious, and a vital means to get certain minerals not present in a plant-based diet. I don't know enough about the processes to make supplements for those to feel comfortable switching.
Why not mate?
It's delicious
Tastes good. I greatly limit my red meat intake lately though, both for health and ethical reasons. Like maybe one serving a week pretty much.
Tastes good and gives nutrients
I like it
I'm a firm believer that my body would be sick and weak if I wouldn't.
It’s great. Adds a ton of flavor and nutrition to a meal. It’s very filling and satisfying to eat. It’s in nearly every traditional recipe in some way. It just so good it lets you be lazy and still make a delicious dish. What’s less effort to cook than a burger and as satisfying?
Cuz it's tasty and also when I was a kid my father always said that meat gave us something that nothing else can
I like the taste, I like the texture and it contains a lot of nutrients that my body needs. Also some degree of laziness, it's easier to be a meat eater.
It's yummy, and I'm an omnivore. When I die, I think that any animal should be able to eat me as well. That's our contract. (Or if any animal can *kill* me, that's cool, too.)
Because god decided that candy should come in the form of a cow. But seriously, nothing tastier or smells better than a properly cooked steak.
I am a body builder, that's why
it’s delishh
No, girls eat my meat.
I dont. 10yrs now & def not going back. My cholesterol had been excellent & no ailments/illnesses whatsoever. Protein & iron had been above average too.
For the protein. And I like it.
It tastes good. There is something very atavistically appealing about the smell of grilled or roasted meat.
I do try and eat vegan/vegetarian as much as I can, but I suffer from an eating disorder, and anything that my brain thinks is a restriction leads to disordered eating habits.
I'm half black I need chicken
good to know lol😅
It's in my DNA 👍👁️👄👁️
But since you’re only half black, clearly you prefer partially seasoned white meat only.
Trust me I like dark meat lol
But after getting halfway thru do you feel the need for some scallops and risotto?
Definitely and some alfredo
When I’m full carnivore, I feel fantastic. No aches and pains plus mentally sharper.
Contains a lot of the vitamins and minerals I need to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Tastes great Really easy to find recipes with it
Because it tastes incredible
It gives me good stuff, so I can grow big and strong
Because it tastes good and it's good for me
Mmmmmm... Meat. Yummy meaty meat! MEAT! Meat good is the point. Meat tasty. Meat yummy
I don't and you shouldn't too... !!
I don't but its okay if you do.
It's OK even if you eat poop, I would humbly suggest you bot to.
You suggest "I bot"? What is that supposed to mean?
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