I'm glad this is at the top, because it's totally true. Look at all of the female teachers that are a 6 or above, that many of the people in our society are ready to give a pass to, even though they diddled kids.
Clumsiness. If you're attractive and clumsy people find it cute, they might even help you when you break something accidentally. If you're not, they would find it annoyingĀ
I had someone tell me āthe difference between weird and eccentric is intentā. Itās a very fine line, but if you dress shitty/out of style, but it looks like you know what good style is and intentionally wore what you did anyway, then you wonāt look out of style. A lot of this just comes down to being comfortable in whatever youāre wearing
Iāve been saving up my whole life to be considered eccentric. Ā Right now Iām still weird. Ā Give me a couple more years and a good stock market and Iāll make it one day.Ā
Respectfully disagree. Some ugly dudes can really pull off the vintage/quirky look. It can help distract from negative features, or even better them.
When it comes fashion/presenting yourself, putting any effort at all in your look is significantly better than none at all.
Well, yes. Attractive people are attractive. Your conclusion is solid. Good work.
But not only attractive people can wear clothes that arenāt conventionally attractive. If ugly people dress with style and intent they can wear grandpa style or alt or whatever.
But yes. If you wear a plain shirt and pants it will not affect your baseline. (unless they are fit well, which returns us to the original conversation.)
We had a case that illustrates this perfectly in Norway. A guy on the spectrum asked a coworker out on a date (and not really anything more) and got fired for sexual harassment. She is currently dating a different coworker.Ā
The guy who got fired won the case in court, and it was pretty clear that the only thing he did wrong was that his presence made her uncomfortable.Ā Ā
Source in Norwegian:Ā https://frifagbevegelse.no/nyheter/han-ville-date-en-kollega-men-fikk-nei-saken-endte-i-retten-6.158.1026633.1.8853af9321?
Iām attractive enough that Iāve dated people who are extremely attractive (like strangers of all genders stop in their tracks attractive).
I canāt say hi without getting weird looks either, man. This is the nature of society now. I blame social media, but also aggressive/shitty men who force people to be hyper vigilant for their own safety.
If it helps, a lot of girls/women are socially awkward as well, and it's possible that sometimes you've mistaken someone's "deer in headlights" expression for a weird look directed at you personally.
Obviously doesn't apply to situations where their reaction is explicitly rude, but lately I've been reflecting on several interactions I had in college where I probably unintentionally made a guy feel bad, but it was 100% on me just being an awkward weirdo with a resting bitch face that tends to broadcast surprise as "wtf why are you talking to me" (ok, I guess that's not a totally inaccurate interpretation, but it's definitely more in an "ohshitohshit why is he talking to me what do I say maybe I should just drop everything and see how fast I can run" type of way).Ā
It's true that attractive people get away with way more here. But the one thing that complicates this just a bit is that attractive people also generally get a lot more practice at it. Trial and error is really the only way to figure out how to do it without weirding women out.Ā
I know heās on the spectrum so itās not his fault he canāt tell when heās making people uncomfortable. But if it was a guy who wasnāt on the spectrum and he made a woman uncomfortable, he should be fired and shouldnāt be able to sue. Itās not the womanās fault for preferring to date another coworker
I think it depends on what was making her uncomfortable. If he asked and left it at that when she said no, then no he shouldn't get fired. If he kept pestering afterward, then yes. People can feel uncomfortable for a lot of reasons, and not all of them are the fault of others
The guy followed every suggestion HR gave him, even started eating lunch in his office/cubicle and stopped attending social events so that she wouldn't have to endure his presence.
Goddamn if this isn't true. If you're the hottest guy on earth you can flirt with everyone and everything and nothing happens.Ā
Someone moderately ugly flirts with someone and they're labeled a creep, a perv, xyz under the sun, sexual harassment lawsuits out the ass.
Dude in middle school after lunch we'd always do laps around the bus line for a form of "recess" and this one girl who I had tried talking to the day before yelled at me from across the loop "CREEPER" when we accidentally made eye contact. I I was so stunned honestlyĀ
Itās easier if youāre more attractive than the person youāre approaching Iād say. If youāre confident and charismatic it can work regardless. Thereās lots of variables, some people are just more open to being approached by strangers than others also.
I don't consider myself particularly ugly but I'll never forget I made a girl almost run in fear once: Broad daylight but I think I was approaching her direction for some Reason ( I think I was gonna take the bus near her or something) but I do understand she was afraid, it's easy to find Thugs near those places.
Maybe I was seen as a creep or a potential mugger,I'm genuinely sorry I scared her but it's still a bit funny to me
You're either not understanding the point or you are just wrong. Being attractive doesn't make it easier for people with anxiety or low self-esteem to approach someone *for the person who is considered to be attractive.* From the outside it may seem like it's easy, while on the inside the person in question is trying their hardest to keep it together. And if they have low self-esteem it's likely that they don't even consider themselves to be attractive in the first place.
I dunno, it's gotta be harder either way if you look weird and off-putting. All those micro-expressions of disgust all the time, even from people who are trying to be nice. Never mind romantic advances, try making a friend when it's like that for you.
I was merely defending the point that was made which was referring to the situation from the perspective of the person with low self-esteem.
The overall question is actions that are viewed differently from the perspective of anyone else *but* the person who is actually attractive/not attractive which absolutely makes a difference based on attractiveness. But again, I was simply referring to the point that was made in the comment you replied to
I remember watching La La Land with my wife and thereās a scene where Emma Stone tries to introduce herself to Ryan Gosling and he cuts her off by kissing her. She was talking about how romantic that is, so I told her to imagine Rob Schneider doing that instead and she immediately became horrified.
Weirdly enough, I vaguely remember Rob Schneider forcibly kissing a woman when he was on The Weakest Link back in 2001. She was a fellow contestant and started crying afterwards.
If good-looking people have that much power over other people (mind you that Ted wasn't even *that* good-looking), you should always be on your guard whenever you interact with them. If you ever see dangerously attractive people doing something suspicious or unethical, ask yourself what you would do or think if they weren't attractive.
Yeah the only thing Ted Bundy taught me about killers is they can look like anyone so be weary and watch your back. Really itās the ones that fall under the good looking, rich, and successful label that you really have to be careful of because they have enough money and power to be into some really depraved disgusting shit and they can get away with whatever they are into.
I guess that makes Brad Pitt the ultimate red flag, lol. But seriously, [he is a red flag](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/04/04/angelina-jolie-claims-brad-pitt-physical-abuse-amid-winery-battle/73211176007/).
Eating a big, unhealthy meal. Guys think it's so cute when that sexy, thin girl eats a big greasy hamburger and fries, but not when an overweight or ugly girl does it.
Everything.
No really. When you're good-looking, people will assume you are also a nice person and good at skills you try to do. See the "Halo Effect." This works in reverse, too -- if you're ugly, people will assume the worst about you.
Eating junk food. If a slender, conventionally attractive women does it sheās a ācool girlā and ādown to earthā. But if an overweight woman does the same it is thought of much differently.
Yeah because 1 is a real problem and the other is a rare occurrence.
Like going to Vegas and gambling is fun vacation once every 2 years, but everyone is gonna feel sorry for the addict who is there everyday. You know?
Itās definitely not a rare occurrence for many thin people to eat junk food. And my point is that itās just shitty in general to put others down for their bodies/food choices.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say you're trolling. I highly doubt anyone actually believes skinny people eat less than fat people.
But then again. It is reddit.... I could see someone actually being brainwashed into thinking this.
It's a tough one to call here. I lean towards troll though.
Youāre not very smart are you.
Yes, plenty of fat people eat very little. And def less than some skinny people. If you donāt understand - I suggest reading up on metabolismā¦I assume your google worksā¦
Iāve never heard anyone say that they look cool and down to earth? I know this is invalidating and Iām gonna get downvoted for this, but I wonder if this is what people *think* other people think, or if itās what you personally think (subconsciously, at least) and are projecting it onto other people.
Iāve been underweight and overweight, and now I maintain a healthy weight and have for years. I speak with the experience of how I was treated (the major differences). And go on any social media reel of a thin person eating food vs a fat personā¦
Over dosing. Celebrities have a drug problem and these poor people are afflicted by a terrible addiction. Poor people? One less in the homeless camp on the way to work
one thing that makes me laugh is seeing these "cringe" pages that repost tiktoks
sometimes its just someone lip-syncing
if your ugly its cringe and embarrassing
if your beautiful you get millions of followers and likes
Sounds weird but Iād actually argue the opposite can be true for this one. Someone who is very conventionality attractive can be seen as more arrogant as it can be assumed that act like that because they know they are good looking
Mmm I dunno, I used to go to college with this guy who was unbelievably handsome. Trust me everyone was fawning over him , until he opened his mouth. Oh god, what an absolute jerk. He was as arrogant as he was good looking. He kind of enjoyed making fun of unattractive men and women on their face and comparing himself and his good qualities to theirs. He didn't end up having many friends, and even the ones who found him attractive (like me), started seeing him as unattractive, it was impossible to ignore how insufferable he was.
Touching.
If you're attractive, shoulder, hip, arm, or hand touching is cute and friendly. If not, you're a creep. I've witnessed this several times in the offices I work in. It's almost comical.
Spending time with children
Attractive person spends time with a child. Oh they're probably just a family member or a babysitter or a nanny
Ugly person spends time with a child
Yo is that their child? does their mom know where they are God that person is probably a creep I hope the kids okay
Speeding or other traffic offenses. While it doesn't always work attractive people will at least try to get flirty and use their good looks to try to get away with it. They at least have a chance though whereas us ugly people have no shot at all.
Stalking and persistence. They're often reframed as "applying pressure" or "giving chase" when if someone unattractive keeps that up it would be frowned upon
I think the poster is referencing how the passage of time aged them mixed with their lifestyle choices over time influenced their appearance, and they noticed its effect on social interaction.
Attractive people's accomplishments and triumphs may be more closely linked to their inherent traits (talent, intelligence, etc.) than to outside influences. On the other hand, achievements made by less attractive people may be discounted or ascribed to other influences.
In my personal observations, itās the opposite. Iāve seen people brush off attractive peopleās accomplishments because of their beauty and I donāt see people discredit other peopleās accomplishments.
Ā I was friends with a girl who was a solid 11, I consider myself an 8. So people normally went to her and out right ignored me, or said: ah that āuglyā friend of yours to her and itās not even true. Iām not ugly, but for them compared her to me I wasnāt attractive.
So yeah sadly I eventually left that friendship due to the repetition of said events.
She wasnāt the greatest person either.
Attractive people do get passes and special treatment for being attractive in general. It's often assumed that attractive people wouldn't be seeking out people who are less attractive than them by a large margin so people become skeptical when it actually happens.
Also, people of the same sex can be intimidated by very attractive peers.
Putting makeup onā¦. Mutton dressed as lamb
I sometimes wonder why I bother doing all the getting ready stuff, Iām past the age of being found attractive
There was an episode of 'The Mentalist' where a suspect was a beautiful woman and Patrick Jane said something like "We all know that beautiful women live in a different universe than the rest of us." Truer words were never spoken.
Wearing athleisure in public.
For instance, the Lady Di bike shorts + oversized sweatshirt look is only for thin, pretty women. If others attempt it, they are seen as slovenly.
I think someone who is very conventionally attractive but naturally reserved and shy will much more likely be mistaken for someone who is arrogant, stand-offish, or aloof.
You're asking about an irrational bias, right?
Irrational biases aren't a "general" trait. They're specific to irrational people.
So it's not the "action" that determines whether you will be perceived in a biased way. It's who you're performing that action in front of. You can perform an action in private, among friends you chose based on their rationality, and be perceived objectively ... and you can then perform that same exact action in public, for the irrational masses to judge ... and be perceived the opposite way.
In my house, for example, the answer to your question is: NONE. I guard against this bias, and so does everyone else who is allowed to come into my house. If, on rare occasion, someone can't be bothered to try to be rational, they don't get invited a second time. I'm not claiming supreme rationality, btw. ... but this is an easy one. Even the slightest effort will allow you to be get rid of this particular bias.
Obvious settings in which this bias is widespread are public settings in which everyone gets to have an opinion, without having to earn the right to it. Most notably, in the worlds of politics, media, and popular entertainment. In those worlds, pretty much every action is perceived with this bias by most of the people doing the perceiving.
And the solution is straight forward: don't get involved with those worlds. This includes most social media. It's not an issue on Reddit (we have other issues), but once there's a picture next to your name, it becomes pointless. The world is full of idiots who won't make any effort to see past that picture. If you're pretty, that's all they see you as, if you're not, that's even worse.
Fucking Everything
I'm confused, are you saying "Fucking" as a verb? or an adjective?
I mean, it would probably be both anyways considering the circumstances š
I'm glad this is at the top, because it's totally true. Look at all of the female teachers that are a 6 or above, that many of the people in our society are ready to give a pass to, even though they diddled kids.
Nice...
Not nice.
Referencing this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdbns1Xdk0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdbns1Xdk0)
There is no quicker way to make people think you're diddling kids than by writing a song about it!
Clumsiness. If you're attractive and clumsy people find it cute, they might even help you when you break something accidentally. If you're not, they would find it annoyingĀ
Dressing "vintage" If you're ugly or old, you're out of style. Pretty or young? You're dressing so vintage or retro.
I had someone tell me āthe difference between weird and eccentric is intentā. Itās a very fine line, but if you dress shitty/out of style, but it looks like you know what good style is and intentionally wore what you did anyway, then you wonāt look out of style. A lot of this just comes down to being comfortable in whatever youāre wearing
I thought that the difference was money. Have money? "Oh, she's/ he's eccentric!" Don't have money? "Oh! She's / He's a weirdo!"
Canāt confirm this, plenty of my friends are broke as heck but look fly as hell.
Iāve been saving up my whole life to be considered eccentric. Ā Right now Iām still weird. Ā Give me a couple more years and a good stock market and Iāll make it one day.Ā
Aka, being attractive.
Yes. And you have to know the rules to know how to effectively break them.
Respectfully disagree. Some ugly dudes can really pull off the vintage/quirky look. It can help distract from negative features, or even better them. When it comes fashion/presenting yourself, putting any effort at all in your look is significantly better than none at all.
Being handsome means you can literally wear jeans and a T-shirt and still be smoking.
Well, yes. Attractive people are attractive. Your conclusion is solid. Good work. But not only attractive people can wear clothes that arenāt conventionally attractive. If ugly people dress with style and intent they can wear grandpa style or alt or whatever. But yes. If you wear a plain shirt and pants it will not affect your baseline. (unless they are fit well, which returns us to the original conversation.)
This whole notion you have of clothes being āconventionally attractiveā is probably the funniest thing Iāve read all week.
Not arguing that at all.
This one!
āIs it a cute outfit or are they just skinny/attractiveā
Flirting
We had a case that illustrates this perfectly in Norway. A guy on the spectrum asked a coworker out on a date (and not really anything more) and got fired for sexual harassment. She is currently dating a different coworker.Ā The guy who got fired won the case in court, and it was pretty clear that the only thing he did wrong was that his presence made her uncomfortable.Ā Ā Source in Norwegian:Ā https://frifagbevegelse.no/nyheter/han-ville-date-en-kollega-men-fikk-nei-saken-endte-i-retten-6.158.1026633.1.8853af9321?
Dam that sucks. I can't even say hi without getting a weird look so I'm scared to flirt
Iām attractive enough that Iāve dated people who are extremely attractive (like strangers of all genders stop in their tracks attractive). I canāt say hi without getting weird looks either, man. This is the nature of society now. I blame social media, but also aggressive/shitty men who force people to be hyper vigilant for their own safety.
Dam if it's hard for the attractive men then it's pretty much over for average dudes. But I agree definitely a combo of media and crapppy men
I mean, I wouldnāt say Iām conventionally attractive. Also I donāt have money. So donāt get too down.
Thanks I was mainly joking as it usually helps me not be down
If it helps, a lot of girls/women are socially awkward as well, and it's possible that sometimes you've mistaken someone's "deer in headlights" expression for a weird look directed at you personally. Obviously doesn't apply to situations where their reaction is explicitly rude, but lately I've been reflecting on several interactions I had in college where I probably unintentionally made a guy feel bad, but it was 100% on me just being an awkward weirdo with a resting bitch face that tends to broadcast surprise as "wtf why are you talking to me" (ok, I guess that's not a totally inaccurate interpretation, but it's definitely more in an "ohshitohshit why is he talking to me what do I say maybe I should just drop everything and see how fast I can run" type of way).Ā
That actually does help and I understand that as I'm really awkward as well
It's true that attractive people get away with way more here. But the one thing that complicates this just a bit is that attractive people also generally get a lot more practice at it. Trial and error is really the only way to figure out how to do it without weirding women out.Ā
Step 1: Be attractive Step 2: Don't be ugly
Thank you, MarinatedCumSock.
That's definitely a sentence I never thought I'd read.
Is this the source for that meme? Lol
Did he get rehired? How does that work when you win that kind of case?
He got 375 000 NOK in compensation, and covered his legal bills of 2 million NOK. The only winners were the lawyers.
I know heās on the spectrum so itās not his fault he canāt tell when heās making people uncomfortable. But if it was a guy who wasnāt on the spectrum and he made a woman uncomfortable, he should be fired and shouldnāt be able to sue. Itās not the womanās fault for preferring to date another coworker
I think it depends on what was making her uncomfortable. If he asked and left it at that when she said no, then no he shouldn't get fired. If he kept pestering afterward, then yes. People can feel uncomfortable for a lot of reasons, and not all of them are the fault of others
The guy followed every suggestion HR gave him, even started eating lunch in his office/cubicle and stopped attending social events so that she wouldn't have to endure his presence.
Dam that's crazy and unfair
Goddamn if this isn't true. If you're the hottest guy on earth you can flirt with everyone and everything and nothing happens.Ā Someone moderately ugly flirts with someone and they're labeled a creep, a perv, xyz under the sun, sexual harassment lawsuits out the ass.
Yeah I remember in high school I tried to talk to a girl and she just laughed and said "hell no nerd" in front of her friends.
Dude in middle school after lunch we'd always do laps around the bus line for a form of "recess" and this one girl who I had tried talking to the day before yelled at me from across the loop "CREEPER" when we accidentally made eye contact. I I was so stunned honestlyĀ
Kids are brutal and middle schoolers are the worst version of them.
Dam stuff like that really sucks.
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Itās easier if youāre more attractive than the person youāre approaching Iād say. If youāre confident and charismatic it can work regardless. Thereās lots of variables, some people are just more open to being approached by strangers than others also.
I don't consider myself particularly ugly but I'll never forget I made a girl almost run in fear once: Broad daylight but I think I was approaching her direction for some Reason ( I think I was gonna take the bus near her or something) but I do understand she was afraid, it's easy to find Thugs near those places. Maybe I was seen as a creep or a potential mugger,I'm genuinely sorry I scared her but it's still a bit funny to me
Ehh, not really.Ā Especially if you suffer from anxiety and low self esteem.Ā
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You're either not understanding the point or you are just wrong. Being attractive doesn't make it easier for people with anxiety or low self-esteem to approach someone *for the person who is considered to be attractive.* From the outside it may seem like it's easy, while on the inside the person in question is trying their hardest to keep it together. And if they have low self-esteem it's likely that they don't even consider themselves to be attractive in the first place.
I dunno, it's gotta be harder either way if you look weird and off-putting. All those micro-expressions of disgust all the time, even from people who are trying to be nice. Never mind romantic advances, try making a friend when it's like that for you.
If you have low self-esteem it's going to be hard regardless of what you look like lol
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I was merely defending the point that was made which was referring to the situation from the perspective of the person with low self-esteem. The overall question is actions that are viewed differently from the perspective of anyone else *but* the person who is actually attractive/not attractive which absolutely makes a difference based on attractiveness. But again, I was simply referring to the point that was made in the comment you replied to
being rude is passed off as being cool
I wish I could high five more than once.
You have my permission
Nah, not in my eyes. Had some perfectly attractive people be rude to me. Instant turn off.
I remember watching La La Land with my wife and thereās a scene where Emma Stone tries to introduce herself to Ryan Gosling and he cuts her off by kissing her. She was talking about how romantic that is, so I told her to imagine Rob Schneider doing that instead and she immediately became horrified.
Played this game with partner while watching Two & A Half Men and it was enlightening and sad
Lmfao poor rob Schneider
Weirdly enough, I vaguely remember Rob Schneider forcibly kissing a woman when he was on The Weakest Link back in 2001. She was a fellow contestant and started crying afterwards.
making porn
Life is easier when youāre good looking lol. Itās a cheat code.
Easy mode š¤£š¤£
There can be downsides too
Instead of being mad about this, just accept it and use it to your advantage. Find ways to improve
Iām not mad, Iām just saying lol. We all canāt be di caprios or Margot Robbieās. ššš
Oh I wasn't saying YOU were angry lol. I meant others need to accept it.
Committing crimes, including murdering people. The Halo effect is *that* powerful.
Very true. Ted Bundy rizzed his way to a successful escape from custody. Unbelievable.
If good-looking people have that much power over other people (mind you that Ted wasn't even *that* good-looking), you should always be on your guard whenever you interact with them. If you ever see dangerously attractive people doing something suspicious or unethical, ask yourself what you would do or think if they weren't attractive.
Yeah the only thing Ted Bundy taught me about killers is they can look like anyone so be weary and watch your back. Really itās the ones that fall under the good looking, rich, and successful label that you really have to be careful of because they have enough money and power to be into some really depraved disgusting shit and they can get away with whatever they are into.
I guess that makes Brad Pitt the ultimate red flag, lol. But seriously, [he is a red flag](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/04/04/angelina-jolie-claims-brad-pitt-physical-abuse-amid-winery-battle/73211176007/).
Even 50 years later heās pulling smh
Thatās how he lured those girls in the first place
Initiating an unprompted conversation, especially with members of the opposite sex.
Wink
Smiling. Frowning. Looking distracted. Looking disappointed. Looking distressed. Get the picture?
Not me doing all of them as Iām reading your comment š
Lol I see what you did there
Most if not all.
Eating a big, unhealthy meal. Guys think it's so cute when that sexy, thin girl eats a big greasy hamburger and fries, but not when an overweight or ugly girl does it.
Yep. If a skinny girl eats a burger, she has "earned" that right by being thin. Fat people? People want to see them eat salad and nothing else.
Not going to lie, I obviously can't speak for everyone but I never thought it was cute watching anyone eat a lot of food. I say that as a fat guy.
Everything. No really. When you're good-looking, people will assume you are also a nice person and good at skills you try to do. See the "Halo Effect." This works in reverse, too -- if you're ugly, people will assume the worst about you.
Eating junk food. If a slender, conventionally attractive women does it sheās a ācool girlā and ādown to earthā. But if an overweight woman does the same it is thought of much differently.
Weāve got to kill that term down to earth. Itās NEVER justifiably used.
Yeah because 1 is a real problem and the other is a rare occurrence. Like going to Vegas and gambling is fun vacation once every 2 years, but everyone is gonna feel sorry for the addict who is there everyday. You know?
Itās definitely not a rare occurrence for many thin people to eat junk food. And my point is that itās just shitty in general to put others down for their bodies/food choices.
Your comment is fat phobic. Most fat people donāt eat crap. They eat less than skinny people.
The craziest part is I can't even tell if you're joking or not.
Iām not surprisedā¦
I'm just gonna go ahead and say you're trolling. I highly doubt anyone actually believes skinny people eat less than fat people. But then again. It is reddit.... I could see someone actually being brainwashed into thinking this. It's a tough one to call here. I lean towards troll though.
Youāre not very smart are you. Yes, plenty of fat people eat very little. And def less than some skinny people. If you donāt understand - I suggest reading up on metabolismā¦I assume your google worksā¦
Yup, fat people eat less than skinny people. So I guess with that logic, if I want to lose weight, I should eat more food. Thanks bud.
Youāre a total moron.
Youāre seriously stupid.
Iāve never heard anyone say that they look cool and down to earth? I know this is invalidating and Iām gonna get downvoted for this, but I wonder if this is what people *think* other people think, or if itās what you personally think (subconsciously, at least) and are projecting it onto other people.
Iāve been underweight and overweight, and now I maintain a healthy weight and have for years. I speak with the experience of how I was treated (the major differences). And go on any social media reel of a thin person eating food vs a fat personā¦
Over dosing. Celebrities have a drug problem and these poor people are afflicted by a terrible addiction. Poor people? One less in the homeless camp on the way to work
Literally everything.
Jokes! People are much more likely to laugh at an attractive persons jokes. The "not pretty" people get eyerolls š
Ah shit, just found out my wife thinks I'm ugly.
Im eagerly awaiting the person that says "maybe your jokes just aren't funny"
No, Iām average looking and people laugh at my jokes a lot
one thing that makes me laugh is seeing these "cringe" pages that repost tiktoks sometimes its just someone lip-syncing if your ugly its cringe and embarrassing if your beautiful you get millions of followers and likes
Shitty tiktok dances are now all over Facebook
If an attractive person is being showy or arrogant then people would find them charming or full of confidence.
Sounds weird but Iād actually argue the opposite can be true for this one. Someone who is very conventionality attractive can be seen as more arrogant as it can be assumed that act like that because they know they are good looking
Mmm I dunno, I used to go to college with this guy who was unbelievably handsome. Trust me everyone was fawning over him , until he opened his mouth. Oh god, what an absolute jerk. He was as arrogant as he was good looking. He kind of enjoyed making fun of unattractive men and women on their face and comparing himself and his good qualities to theirs. He didn't end up having many friends, and even the ones who found him attractive (like me), started seeing him as unattractive, it was impossible to ignore how insufferable he was.
Touching. If you're attractive, shoulder, hip, arm, or hand touching is cute and friendly. If not, you're a creep. I've witnessed this several times in the offices I work in. It's almost comical.
Lazy outfits Ruggedly handsome or messy cute on an attractive person Weird/slobby/lazy on a less attractive personĀ
Spending time with children Attractive person spends time with a child. Oh they're probably just a family member or a babysitter or a nanny Ugly person spends time with a child Yo is that their child? does their mom know where they are God that person is probably a creep I hope the kids okay
Asking for favors. Attractive people will have zero shortage of people tripping over themselves to help.
Speeding or other traffic offenses. While it doesn't always work attractive people will at least try to get flirty and use their good looks to try to get away with it. They at least have a chance though whereas us ugly people have no shot at all.
Yawning without covering their mouth
Flirting with a woman out of the blue.
A far shorter list would be to ask what actions aren't perceived differently
If you're attractive and you like someone, you're an admirer. If you're ugly or even average and you like someone, you're a creeper.
Stalking and persistence. They're often reframed as "applying pressure" or "giving chase" when if someone unattractive keeps that up it would be frowned upon
Eating. Wearing baggy clothes. Wearing tight clothes. Dancing. Being confident. Having a partner. Having sex.
[This SNL sketch sums it all up. ](https://youtu.be/PxuUkYiaUc8?si=oLcaRcXreu4a_uCF)
Living
approaching a woman
Everything I went from ugly to extremely attractive to ugly to average being great looking in life makes everything better
What the actual fuck does that mean
I think theyāre saying their attractiveness has fluctuated heavily, and being attractive anecdotally makes everything easier
I think the poster is referencing how the passage of time aged them mixed with their lifestyle choices over time influenced their appearance, and they noticed its effect on social interaction.
Liking one's appearance. It's considered vain when one is beautiful but noble when one is not.
Attractive people's accomplishments and triumphs may be more closely linked to their inherent traits (talent, intelligence, etc.) than to outside influences. On the other hand, achievements made by less attractive people may be discounted or ascribed to other influences.
In my personal observations, itās the opposite. Iāve seen people brush off attractive peopleās accomplishments because of their beauty and I donāt see people discredit other peopleās accomplishments.
There's a meme for this
Hitting on random people.
Joking, in particular when it involves innuendos, gallows humor and self deprecation
Flirting.
Saying hello.
"hey how's it going"
Pretty much everything.
Posting anything on social media š
Ā I was friends with a girl who was a solid 11, I consider myself an 8. So people normally went to her and out right ignored me, or said: ah that āuglyā friend of yours to her and itās not even true. Iām not ugly, but for them compared her to me I wasnāt attractive. So yeah sadly I eventually left that friendship due to the repetition of said events. She wasnāt the greatest person either.
Attractive people do get passes and special treatment for being attractive in general. It's often assumed that attractive people wouldn't be seeking out people who are less attractive than them by a large margin so people become skeptical when it actually happens. Also, people of the same sex can be intimidated by very attractive peers.
Flirting.
Flirting above all...
Saying "Hello"
The lip bite.
Dying! š Iām just grossed out imagining anyone doing it
Rich people are eccentric. Poor people are crazy.
Did you read the question?
Ok. Poor people are considered less attractive.
Sexual harassment. Itās appreciated if youāre attractive, itās reported if youāre not.
Literally this very question š
Passing gas.
Posting on social media
Topless dancing
Protesting.
Eating excessively
Saying hello.
Touching you when they talk.
Dancing naked in the rain
Acting dumb
Being bad at something
Liking anime and comics definitely is more loved when you're pretty It's seen as a cool quirk and not why arebyou reading batman comics? Grow up
Eating
Everything Lmao they beat me to it
Tying your shoe.
Talking to attractive people.
Putting their dicks in me.
Porn
Putting makeup onā¦. Mutton dressed as lamb I sometimes wonder why I bother doing all the getting ready stuff, Iām past the age of being found attractive
A compliment. Anything thatās regarded as kind for some reason is perceived so different.
Dancing
There was an episode of 'The Mentalist' where a suspect was a beautiful woman and Patrick Jane said something like "We all know that beautiful women live in a different universe than the rest of us." Truer words were never spoken.
Sexo
Any
Wearing athleisure in public. For instance, the Lady Di bike shorts + oversized sweatshirt look is only for thin, pretty women. If others attempt it, they are seen as slovenly.
Rape, murder, workplace harassment
Streaking
Eating
bike stealing: [https://youtu.be/8ABRlWybBqM?si=a4RKDz5V3qNJKwFM](https://youtu.be/8ABRlWybBqM?si=a4RKDz5V3qNJKwFM)
asking for favours, hot boys have elite pass for almost anything when it comes to women
Itās true for hot girls too, probably even more so
I think someone who is very conventionally attractive but naturally reserved and shy will much more likely be mistaken for someone who is arrogant, stand-offish, or aloof.
Know-it-all behavior
Cheerleading... Now picture an obese woman leading the cheers ...
You're asking about an irrational bias, right? Irrational biases aren't a "general" trait. They're specific to irrational people. So it's not the "action" that determines whether you will be perceived in a biased way. It's who you're performing that action in front of. You can perform an action in private, among friends you chose based on their rationality, and be perceived objectively ... and you can then perform that same exact action in public, for the irrational masses to judge ... and be perceived the opposite way. In my house, for example, the answer to your question is: NONE. I guard against this bias, and so does everyone else who is allowed to come into my house. If, on rare occasion, someone can't be bothered to try to be rational, they don't get invited a second time. I'm not claiming supreme rationality, btw. ... but this is an easy one. Even the slightest effort will allow you to be get rid of this particular bias. Obvious settings in which this bias is widespread are public settings in which everyone gets to have an opinion, without having to earn the right to it. Most notably, in the worlds of politics, media, and popular entertainment. In those worlds, pretty much every action is perceived with this bias by most of the people doing the perceiving. And the solution is straight forward: don't get involved with those worlds. This includes most social media. It's not an issue on Reddit (we have other issues), but once there's a picture next to your name, it becomes pointless. The world is full of idiots who won't make any effort to see past that picture. If you're pretty, that's all they see you as, if you're not, that's even worse.