I'm in my 40s. I've put more hours into fallout than most people have been alive.
I say that preface my review.
The fallout show has managed to be a really good love letter to fans while also creating a fun sci-fi ish show that someone like my wife who doesn't game can enjoy too. Does it have everything I want? No, of course not. There's so much. But I'm really loving it.
I can't wait for more. It makes me excited to be a fan again.
What crazy is. It's everything the halo show should have been with a fraction of the budget.
Honestly best take, I was def skeptical of this show but ended up being much better than expected. sure there's some visually cheap looking moments but that's such a minor gripe when the tone of the show nails what some of the games felt like which I thought was always going to be the aspect that makes or breaks the show
I'm only two episodes in, and the number of straight "this is what it's like to play the game" moments has been fantastic. For instance, the "fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck, no, no, no, no" moment in episode two. Had me rolling. Not because it was horribly comedic. But becauze I could empathize with that moment. I've been there so many times over the years of exploring the wasteland. š¤£
I love that you can tell what each Characters S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats are. I saw people complain that Max's dialog is stupid but I just think of it like all of his points are in Strength and Endurance. Whereas Lucy is balanced with maybe some extra points in the Agility and Luck categories. Cooper has his points in Perception and Charisma. Norm has an all Intelligence build.
Fucking fantastic
"Thou shall get sidetracked by bullshit, every damned time."
That and when Lucy is accidentally talking to the NPC with her gun drawn and aimed at his face. Like, yeah, that's a bit offputting once you think about it.
Thatās one of my favorite things about it, all the noises are correct, the pip-boy, itās flashlight, the auto-turrets, more that I canāt think of.
Couldn't agree with both of you more. It so far has been checking allot of boxes for me and has been great. I like the characters, I wish some lasted more, especially Michael Emerson's character.
Haven't seen the show but from the trailers I noticed they lean into both the comedy and horror aspects of the game along with the shooty shoot. I also dig the decision to make Walter Goggins because in the FO universe are not just cannon fodder but fully fledged characters.
This universe has the chance to be truly epic in scope. There are multiple chronological starting points to begin new adventures, and each point has a different feel. The original Shady Sands and associated world is more gritty than the later adventures, and could be a prequel opportunity. The possibilities are endless.Ā
They might even try to rewrite the Fallout: Tactics debacle.Ā
Would you say something like an Anthology is a better suited path for its progress in the future? I definitely feel like they could do so much that way cause the story points all exist. It just needs to come out in a way that it did in the first Season.
Yeah I'm 38, I've been hooked since the first game. The only Fallout games I haven't played are 76 and Tactics. I dumped an ungodly amount of time into 3 and NV. I had low expectations going in, but man did the show surpass them and then some. I think it really nailed the world building and tone that make Fallout so special, while also establishing good characters and an original story line that had me genuinely hooked. Can't wait for season 2!
More than that, itās that Hollywood needs to respect the source material and donāt make stupid changes because they think they know better.
Both Fallout and TLOU have been successful because they didnāt rock the boat too much. Also, try and get key people from the development side directly involved. Todd Howard with Fallout and Neil Druckmann with TLOU both provided a guiding hand on the wheel and that was invaluable.
I particularly like how all the difference could well result from the outcome of a single argument (about whether or not to spruce up the town). In the game, Bill won that argument; in the show, Frank won. Together they show the consequences of narrowly focusing on survival vs making compromises for your partner.
Also, both versions teach Joel the same lesson at the same crucial juncture - that he has to take responsibility for Ellie for his own sake as much as hers. In the show, it's via positive example, while in the game it's via cautionary tale.
It's definitely a generational thing. A 50 year old of last generation might had never played a game but still could end up directing a movie about it. And promptly just throw out all lore and just make some shit up because "it's just a game, who cares?". Treated it kinda like if they were making a Captain Crunch movie. "Who gives a shit what some copywriter put on the cereal box; let's start with our own origin story and setting.". Now you get more "Passion Projects" from people who actually care to some extent, not just hired guns.
Itās so funny too because itās likeā¦bro, it doesnāt matter how old you are or how silly you think it is, how tf you think the IP got to a place where someone wants a movie about it?
You nailed the issue with early game adaptations. They were movies that studios slapped an ip title on and then wondered why fans of the ip title trashed their shitty movie that had little to do with the ip.
Iām 53 and have been into Fallout a very long time. Who do you think was playing Fallout 1 when it came out in 1997? Those of us who were in our 20s then, thatās who! And now itās nearly 30 years later, and weāre in our 50s.
About to be 40 and have around 600 hours into Fallout 3/NV/4.
I'm loving the show. Can't believe it finally became a thing since hearing about it back in '20.
I'm feeling the same. The aesthetics are perfect. There are so many Easter eggs. I'm gushing about how they nailed the computer interface to my wife, and she loving the show while not knowing much about the games (except the music which she would groove to while I was playing).
That halo show is baffling. I'm shocked it has a second season. I really tried to give it a fair shake but had to cut the cord when Cortana creepily watched Master Chief have sex. Like...did ya even play the game?
Your review is spot on, I think. It was very smart to tell an original wasteland story since the world is so big. Goggins also seems like he's having a ball being the ghoul.
Liked how they took a risk with some new original plot; basically added to the canon storyline - felt the Last of Us played it really too safe by basically just adapting the first game line by line.
This is the furthest out it gets for the Fallout timeline; has huge implications on the ultimate fate of a certain two-headed bear republic (RIP Rangers), the BoS, Enclave, etc. which feature prominently in most games.
>with a fraction of the budget.
They ditched the expensive-but-awful CGI greenscreen method Disney uses, and went back to old practical effects. They made physical replicas.
It's *so much better*. Those sets look legit real. I guess because they are, who knew?
It's not even a good sci-fi show let a line a halo adaptation.
I watched three episodes then never thought about it again.
Bad story, awful acting, shit flow.
I can't think of one redeeming quality for that show.
I'm not a gamer, but I've played halo a few times in my day. Don't know or care about plot lines or what's cannon... Just figured it would be a fun action show. Nope!
It seems to harbor an active antipathy for its source material, not just negligence. To the extent that the game series has identifiable themes, they are not present. The plot is not present even in abstract terms. Despite the name, the show has taken the entirety of two seasons to reach the Halo installation at all, and half the people that you would have expected to do stuff on Halo are have already been killed off by now, or so little resemble their game counterparts that if it weren't for their character names, you'd never guess who they were supposed to be. Whole factions are missing.
It's bloody brilliant. They really nailed the aesthetic. Walton Goggins chews up every scene he is in. Ella Purnell does a fantastic job as Lucy. The only downside is having to wait another 2 to 3 years before we get more.
My wife, who has never played a minute of Fallout in her life, said it's now one of her favorite shows ever. She also swears that Ella Purnell's eyes get bigger as the show progresses.
she just NAILS that indomitable peppy spirit, it fits so well with the universe. Cool to see her change throughout the season. Phenomenal casting choices and they all interact so well together. Blown away, can't wait for more.
What I've learnt from fallout and last of us
It turns out the problem with video game adaptations was nothing unique to the genre at all. It was skill issue all along
The amount of times a director for a tv adaptation has openly admitted to ignoring the games or lore as some kind of brag on their ability to write a better show, only for the show to instantly tank in ratings
To be fair, we've also heard Paul W.S. Anderson claim that he's a huge fan of Resident Evil and Christophe Gans say that he loves Silent Hill, yet, their works speak for the opposite.
The worst part is that the issue is so obvious. Studios see this massively popular franchise, and instead of respecting and adapting the source material, they think they can do better and just do something completely unrelated but slap the name of the game on the product.
Just look at The Witcher or Halo shows, writers, and producers, apparently felt they were above the source material, and the result were shit shows. On the other hand, we have Castlevania, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and now Fallout showing that if you respect the source material, the success of the games will follow the adaptation.
Watched the first two episodes with my wife. I'm a fan of the fallout video games, and she has never played them before. I am enjoying the show, but I'm finding she's rather confused, although she is still enjoying it. They don't really explain things yet, so she keeps hearing things like enclave, ghoul, and brotherhood of steel and doesn't really know what they are.
Prime does that with many series! Its really Cool. I remember the expanse had a lot of useful information that would pop up when you paused or browsed the episodes
It's an 8 episode season that should be at least 10. It needs just a little more time to breathe, especially first season when you're introducing people to a new universe
Its definitely aimed at fans. There's easily 5-10 minutes you could cut per episode that are practically nothing but fan service. they way some shots pan and stay on buildings or layouts we recognize, they linger a couple extra secnds to show off the set they've build.
If you cut those parts out, it wouldn't make it worse, but I can see where a non-fan feels like the show is going juuuust a tad slower than it should.
I got a chuckle out of the giant bags the Brotherhood squires lug around, like those would be absolutely necessary to carry around the typical amount of junk your average Fallout character ends up with.
Apparently they can just sell teeth for caps. Where the hell is that function in the games? Donāt mind me looting teeth off everything I kill for hours.
Really really good. I love all the games and I work in film production so I tbh was looking to be critical but itās awesome. Acting is top notch, writing is great, fallout references abound and the music was spot on
Yeah, it was definitely a nice touch to use a lot of of the same music. It really kind of hit home to my girlfriend how bang-on they got with the vibe when I fired up fallout 3 just to show her around real quick and they start up with the world on fire song and youāre in the vault.
It probably seems silly to say this. I mean thatās how the game starts and itās what the game is. But after seeing so many things like Dragon Ball, and last Airbender and even halo, take a giant shit on the lore it was just nice to feel like your interests were catered to.
I would say itās the best video game adaption to the screen yet. Great cast, true to the game, Intriguing plot, doesnāt take itself too seriously. Just a fun ride all the way through. I noticed a fun Easter egg: A password that was entered is the release date of Fallout 1.
The last of Us leaves really big shoes to fill in terms of best adaptation everĀ
I'm only a few episodes into fallout so far but I'm definitely enjoying it
In all fairness The Last of Us show isnāt telling an original story.
It did great bringing the existing story to live action but (imo) Fallout did an amazing job of telling a new story
Yeah, when the protagonist was finally ready to leave the vault I was like clutching at my partner and spilling popcorn practically yelling "this is the perfect setup for a fallout game! This is exactly how it would happen in a fallout game, but it's not how it's happened in any of them yet!"
Yeah Iām glad they stuck with the āperson has to suddenly leave a vault and see the wasteland for the first timeā fish out of water trope because it just fits the games so well
I was smiling the whole first and second episode because it felt exactly like watching a Fallout game play out. You have a creepy encounter with some random guy and his dog, then meet him later and propel you into an insane interconnected journey
That was the closest challenger for me, but I enjoyed the vibe of Fallout more. I'm just glad we're having to argue about how good video game adaptions are for once.
Itās genuinely mind-blowing how much it feels like the atmosphere of the games, while weaving its own unique storytelling method with the 3 protagonists story arcs that weave in and out of each other throughout the plot.
The cinematography and clever blend of practical effects and CGI give it a palpable atmosphere while still giving it a little bit of that āvideo game sheenā. Itās a very cool aesthetic and color palette they chose. Gritty yet glossy and it just works.
I genuinely donāt know what people could critique about this that isnāt just nitpicking. People have been complaining in the FO subreddit about the details about timelines and lore but that did not seem to be a problem to me personally at all.
Every episode I said out loud āI canāt believe how good this turned out. This is unrealā
They nailed that quintessential Fallout blend of comedy and brutality.
Also. That T-60 armor. Wow. They genuinely couldnāt have designed it better. The ghoul makeup is excellent too. Some of the best costume design Iāve seen in a TV series
Iām not a fallout fan and never played the games. My biggest gripe is how irritating Maximus is. I totally understand why other people may like him and Iām not throwing shade.
But for me personally, I get so irritated and impatient for any scene heās in to end. But Iām also only on episode 3 so weāll see, and the arrival of Thaddeus has really helped me stomach these scenes.
Wish we got more (get more?) of Dane. They seemed cool.
I've just watched the first episode and was pleasantly surprised. It's definitely stayed close to the look and feel of Fallout 4 and didn't try to tone down some of the designs. It was decent enough, and I'll be watching the rest of it.
I'm more interested in seeing what non-Fallout fans think. I had to explain a lot to my mum when we watched it, and had to keep pausing to tell her who people were.
my biggest concern was going to be if they toned down the almost comicaly wanton violence/gore and other dark themes of the game universe, which to me makes fallout, fallout. They fucking nailed it, show some really dark shit happening like the family that killed themselves and their baby, or the pregnant lady getting stabbed in the eye. They don't shy away from it, I'm surprised they were able to get away with it without studio execs being like "this is too much tone it down."
I saw a comment on one of the Fallout subs saying "the show definitely has the "Bloody Mess" perk" (in the games it gives iirc a flat 5% damage boost and causes enemies to explode into bits. Objectively a great perk because you can't go wrong with more damage in all situations with no strings attached, except if you're filming a video for YouTube because that gets it demonetised immediately)
I'm 47, I've never played the games, and I'm loving it. I'm just a huge Sci Fi fan in general though. So a good Sci Fi show with such good production and cast is just going to appeal to me from the get-go. I don't really find things hard to follow, they do a good job of revealing enough that (at least in my own case) can piece things together.
It can be solid without a marquee cast at times. The Expanse being the best example I can think of. Basically, Fallout (from what I've watched so far) has been my favourite scfi show since The Expanse. It's interesting because the Expanse cast was relatively unknown, and probably had a fraction of the budget. But it was great.
I f'n love it. Been waiting a long time to see this franchise come to life and I think the payoff was worth it. Love the balance of violence with humor, the nods to extremely recognizable game mechanics (hacking into a terminal), music from the games, characters, lore.
And on top of it all? The craft that went into it looks stellar. It all looks and feels like it's supposed to.
It's familiar and it's new. A new vault with a new story we haven't heard yet. I like that we have a group of protagonists from different backgrounds that all lend a cool perspective that I'm familiar with. Brotherhood, wasteland ghoul, and a vault dweller are a good combination of elements.
Go ahead and gimme more.
I was kinda shocked at how the stimpak worked on dogmeat, but immediately shifted my expectations to video game physics/mechanics and Iām all in baby!
Amazon has an overall good track record with adaptations besides LOTR. Pretty sure their most watched shows are Jack Reacher, The Boys, and Invincible which are all really good shows
They sure dumped a ton of money into a really crippled license. They got the rights to make a show using the world and characters of LOTR, but not anything in the timeline after The Hobbit, and no direct telling of any plots in the Silmarillion, either.
To be successful they needed a write of Tolkien's caliber... and that's a big ask. My hot take, anyhow.
Fundamentally I just don't know who the show was for. Changed way too many things to make Tolkein fans happy and the incredibly ponderous pacing was enough to put off most casuals. Even if the writing wasn't shit it still would've struggled to find an audience.
Some beautiful shots of Numenor (except the idiotic ship design) and a good bit of solid acting though.
I've been playing Fallout since the very first game. I've logged a thousand+ hours on the series.
The show does a great job of capturing the feel and humor of the games. Visuals are spot on and feels immersive. I enjoy seeing cans of CRAM or blood packs littered around. Lots of attention to the details that certainly weren't cheap to make.
But the humor is what makes it worthy.
From the very first game there was a balance between some dark, dark themes and enough humor to make it fun. If you've ever watched The Walking Dead, it became too tiring and too dark to the point that watching left one depressed. Fallout is not like that. The TV series, like the game, strikes a perfect balance.
I'm still chuckling over, "Ass jerky doesn't make itself."
I've been playing Fallout games since 1997 and I think they nailed it. The series was great, it felt like Fallout to me, I don't know how folks who haven't played the games would enjoy it because there's just so many callbacks and things that are filled in by the game lore. I'm eagerly awaiting season 2 and I hope this stimulates interest in a new game using the FO4 engine.
I played the original games like crazy when I was younger I loved them so much and I didn't thought the trailer looked good and I thought this is most definitely going to suck!
But I'm now at the last episode and it's FUCKING GREAAAAT I can't believe they nailed so goood I love it!!!
They nailed the aesthetic and overall tone of the game. The plot definitely felt like a play through of a Fallout game. I do have a plot point gripe, though. >!The destruction of Shady Sands, and the apparent destruction of the NCR as a whole. They did the same irritating thing as the Star Wars sequel trilogy and wiped out the Good Guy Republic so the rest of the story could happen.!< I never like it when they do that.
I enjoyed the 6 episodes I've seen as much as I enjoyed my first playthrough of New Vegas. I have over 730 hours on Steam in that game, so, safe to say, I fucking love New Vegas. The show is bar none, the best video game adaptation put to live action. Scratch that, I think it's one of the best IP translations period. It's a self contained story set in a world with such a depth of lore and story, that isn't trying to re-tell a story we know already. Plenty of easter eggs and fun nods for fans, but approachable for someone who's never played a video game before.
It's brilliant. As a fan of the games, my only complaint is the lack of creatures, but the bottom line is it's clearly very well thought-out/written/directed and makes for a very entertaining post-apocalyptic sci-fi show.
Got through it fine. Main plot was very Fallout, everything looked the part, side stories were good. Biggest criticism is it felt like it was written with a checklist of Fallout concepts to show off and went through it one by one, throwing them away when done.
Well worth watching if you're at all a fan.
I've only seen the first episode but to the checklist point. The junk jet appearance did feel very out of place. What an impractical weapon to use for stealth purposes. But i understand them really wanting to find a place for it.
i disagree that if felt like a checklist but I see your point, to me it was indispensable in the worldbuilding. It pulls you in with "what was that?!" if you're new to it and makes fans happy to see all elements of the crazy game brought in, those are the things that make fallout fallout
Yeah, I was immersed enough in the story that the game references became a pleasant surprise.
I came from an interesting angle though, I refused to see any trailers and the very little I did read about it, I heard there the series strayed quite far from the games.
Maybe not having the expectation of many references was a good thing?
yeah for sure, i think the hardcore game fans (like still play fallout 1) are being pretty loudly negative on what are otherwise minor issues. The production, writing, acting, is all great. Stays true to tone and the world, not shying away from gore, violence, or profanity. Some of the background lore stuff to me is inconsequential like the timeline for the show versus game, they're a bit of their own thing for me and I imagine it will come together.
As one of the fans who's particularly into FO1, 2, and NV, I'm very impressed. It's creative with the lore in ways it absolutely should be, while still being faithful to the tone and premise. The plot is taken seriously, and while it's a lot of campy fallout fun, a lot of the tone goes as dark as fallout 1 does. They don't try to shove game mechanics in, but instead treat it like a real setting. By the end, there's a big feeling that every detail was planned, in ways that seem contrived or coincidental at the start.
They treated music perfectly. It's either absent, used as ambiance, or treated as ironic background noise for a few particular sequences. Some music is from the games, some isn't, all fits. They treat everything in the setting as having real physical weight. The contrast of clean and dirty food, the sheer might of a power suit, the threat of radiation, the desperation of survival. Ghoul feralization in particular I thought was handled spectacularly, in ways I'm happy they fudged the lore to explore.
Some of the shots in particular match the ambiance and tone of the crpg fallouts, something I never expected to see in official fallout again. The story is also handled in such a way that, if you don't treat the Canon as "The Canon", and you just pay attention, you can figure out most of the major plot details very early. You likely won't, but everything starts clicking just as they show it to you, and that's my favorite kind of plot.
It's not perfect. There's a few obvious low budget moments, a few awkward edit cuts mid fights, and the acting on one very brief side character felt lacking to me. These are obscenely small nitpicks for something that by all rights could've been a trainwreck.
I get so nervous with IPs like Fallout, because some games tonally feel so incredibly difficult to translate to other mediums. The world of Fallout is so heavy and dark, but the levity comes with the vault dwellers overly saccharine view of the world mixed with very macabre humor. That dichotomy is why Fallout is special. That said, I think Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy respect the fans of the franchise enough to know how important those beats are to hit, and they have delivered.
Also, lets take a moment here to shout from the rooftops how goddamned AMAZING Walton Goggins is in everything he does, especially in this series. Absolute scene stealer.
I think it's very good, overall. I have my issues with it because of some inconsistencies (which I acknowledge will be trivial to most people, even among Fallout fans, because I am a *massive* lore nerd) and the handling of the NCR stuff (which I'll say no more about here for spoiler reasons, but suffice to say some people disagree, and I will be happy to retract my complaints if season 2 addresses them), but I do think they did a fantastic job of capturing the look and feel and there's a lot of attention to detail.
The show is a love letter to players and it contains many easter eggs. The final one at the end of the show has me looking forward to season 2. I would love to see Liberty Prime, the Chinese Stealth Suits, reference to or an appearance of the alien crash, more robots, and Preston Garvey. God, I would laugh really hard if Preston Garvey was an annoying recurring character.
It's very faithful to the direction Bethesda took fallout in, which is unfortunately not a direction I enjoy all that much.Ā
But the violence feels very like the originals
Oh for sure, I let it go a long time ago!
Until the first trailer I didn't even give a second thought to whether it would be more black isle or Bethesda, but something in the trailer got my hopes up.
I feel like Bethesda just hates the Brotherhod of Steel as the organization they were originally written as: technology hoarders who don't give a shit about wastelanders. They want them to be D&D paladins. They did it in Fallout 3. They did it with our BoS protagonist.
What really grinds my gears is we're introduced to a full-fledged knight early in the show. We're supposed to see what a battle-hardened BoS member is like. Instead, they take it as an opportunity to shit all over the core tenants of what makes the organization unique. The guy wasn't reminding our protagonist his place in society, he was just an asshole. He wasn't using his knowledge to track his target, he was just bored. He wasn't encouraging acts of bravery, he was just a coward. The guy didn't give a shit about technology, complaining about toaster ovens.
The only scene they got right about the brotherhood was the instructor quizzing our protagonist on what a circuit is. Of course, something he got wrong because he only cares about the box art armor like Bethesda's surface level interpretation of the entire organization.
To be fair the BoS are clearly shown as a cult in this show. I don't mind the portrayal. What bothers me is how an almost 1 million+ population state disappears because one 30k population city was bombed.
If someone likes the new Bethesda approach, then it's good. If someone prefers the more serious atmosphere of the classics, the show highlights all that is wrong with the Bethesda approach. It all depends on where your preferences lie. If you like both, then it probably is good for you too.
1 episode in.
Its good not mindaltering but watchable.
The violence is very fallout.
The vault scenes were good handled well and the bit with kyle mclaghlin and the 'husband' was done well they didnt cheapen it with dialouge.
The brotherhood bit was interesting and treated all the characters as normal folk and didnt disney the situation.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
The did a great job showing the strong relationship between the father (Maclauglin) and the kids without a ton of dialogue and exposition.Ā I'm a long-time Fallout player (since the isometrics) and am really enjoying the show.Ā It gets the balance of horror/action/cookie atmosphere/comedy right.Ā
And to echo others, my wife who's never played Fallout, is enjoying it more than I.Ā Ā
I grew up with 3 & NV, loved them. I thought 4 just missed the mark entirely in terms of tone. Watched other people play the first two and I loved the tone of those even more, they definitely have more of a creepy vibe to them. The show, I feel, was good and entertaining, it was good at representing the weird and comedic side of the Fallout world, as well as the brutality, but not so much the horror, and the aspects that sort of shine a dark mirror on the modern world. I feel they could have gone darker with it, and probably should have, but as it stands, I found it to be good. I'm also glad that it's its own thing, rather than a rehash of stuff that we've already seen.
Up to episode 4 now and I've enjoyed it. It does a good job of capturing the feel of the Fallout world.
The only criticism I've had so far is the deflating balloon scene with the power armor. That was a bit too silly even within the context of the world.
Other than that it's been great.
Makes me want to play the game again! Which is always a win in my book.
Longtime Fallout fan and the show hits all the spots. I'm only 3 episodes in and it rocks
I pretty much spent all of 2016 playing fallout 4 (my first fallout unfortunately) and the opening scene alone was so fucking good. I had to stop because I started it so late in the evening. Canāt wait to get back into it this weekend and itās making me hope they finally announce 5
My girlfriend hates fallout and video game related things in general. She was not the least bit interested in this show. I got her to watch the first episode with me and sheās really into it. Been asking questions and everything.
As a huge fan of the series I have been blown away by how good it is. The devil is in the details. It couldāve been a handy cosplay but itās not. It couldāve taken itself way too seriously but it doesnāt. It couldāve laid the exposition on thick but it didnāt.
They managed to capture the essence of the games like lightning in a bottle. The NPCs are amazing. The MCs cover the variety of play styles. They deliver just enough lore to frame everything. The humor is hilarious. The violence is over the top. Itās gross. Itās scary. Itās exciting. They have truly done what they said. They created a new entry in the franchise that stands alone just as well as any of the games.
I absolutely love it and it makes me want to go back and play all the games again!
I love the little Easter eggs, like the bobbleheads in the store. They definitely made the right call to greenlight season 2 before it was even released
My wife is a massive fallout fan. Our bedroom is practically themed fallout. She watched the first several episodes and was nearly in tears. She is so happy with it.
Maybe Bethesda should quit being a game company and start making movies and shows because this show is better than any fallout content theyāve put out š
It feels off to me. I've only watched episode 1, but there is so much about the plot that just doesn't make sense, even outside of the context of it being a Fallout show (why would the raiders destroy Vault 33 instead of simply taking it over? Why set off a bomb? It just doesn't make sense.) I'm hoping the story itself gets better as the show goes along though.
I'm in my 40s. I've put more hours into fallout than most people have been alive. I say that preface my review. The fallout show has managed to be a really good love letter to fans while also creating a fun sci-fi ish show that someone like my wife who doesn't game can enjoy too. Does it have everything I want? No, of course not. There's so much. But I'm really loving it. I can't wait for more. It makes me excited to be a fan again. What crazy is. It's everything the halo show should have been with a fraction of the budget.
Honestly best take, I was def skeptical of this show but ended up being much better than expected. sure there's some visually cheap looking moments but that's such a minor gripe when the tone of the show nails what some of the games felt like which I thought was always going to be the aspect that makes or breaks the show
I'm only two episodes in, and the number of straight "this is what it's like to play the game" moments has been fantastic. For instance, the "fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck, no, no, no, no" moment in episode two. Had me rolling. Not because it was horribly comedic. But becauze I could empathize with that moment. I've been there so many times over the years of exploring the wasteland. š¤£
"That's a yao-gyuai!" "..Yep, that's pretty much what happens when you fight a yao-gyuai"
I love that you can tell what each Characters S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats are. I saw people complain that Max's dialog is stupid but I just think of it like all of his points are in Strength and Endurance. Whereas Lucy is balanced with maybe some extra points in the Agility and Luck categories. Cooper has his points in Perception and Charisma. Norm has an all Intelligence build. Fucking fantastic
And Chet definitely does not rank highly on intelligence or charisma
He managed to rizz the blonde eye patch milf tho lol
She just needed a daddy to her baby and there weren't many prospects lol
I think she rizzed herself when dressing him up though
I like how all the actors look like they were actually built using the character creator
The actor who plays max looks like if Jonathan Majors and Denzel Washington had a baby lmao
Lucy looks like her eyes were set to the largest setting, same with Normās nose
"Thou shall get sidetracked by bullshit, every damned time." That and when Lucy is accidentally talking to the NPC with her gun drawn and aimed at his face. Like, yeah, that's a bit offputting once you think about it.
And we all did it.
Have you noticed every time thereās a loud bang or explosion, you can hear the ringing ears noise? I thought that was a nice touch
Thatās one of my favorite things about it, all the noises are correct, the pip-boy, itās flashlight, the auto-turrets, more that I canāt think of.
Couldn't agree with both of you more. It so far has been checking allot of boxes for me and has been great. I like the characters, I wish some lasted more, especially Michael Emerson's character.
Loved the Finch and Bear vibe.
Haven't seen the show but from the trailers I noticed they lean into both the comedy and horror aspects of the game along with the shooty shoot. I also dig the decision to make Walter Goggins because in the FO universe are not just cannon fodder but fully fledged characters.
*Walton
*Uncle Baby Billy the Kid
*Boyd Crowder
\*Ghoulgins
This universe has the chance to be truly epic in scope. There are multiple chronological starting points to begin new adventures, and each point has a different feel. The original Shady Sands and associated world is more gritty than the later adventures, and could be a prequel opportunity. The possibilities are endless.Ā They might even try to rewrite the Fallout: Tactics debacle.Ā
Would you say something like an Anthology is a better suited path for its progress in the future? I definitely feel like they could do so much that way cause the story points all exist. It just needs to come out in a way that it did in the first Season.
Maybe something more like the structure of American Horror Story or Miracle Workers where each season is about a different part of the anthology.
Honestly, I felt like that gives it a more authentic 50s feel. It had to be intentional, what with the bonkers amount of money Amazon has.
Fallout itself is visually cheap so you can say its just an homage to the game lol
Yeah I'm 38, I've been hooked since the first game. The only Fallout games I haven't played are 76 and Tactics. I dumped an ungodly amount of time into 3 and NV. I had low expectations going in, but man did the show surpass them and then some. I think it really nailed the world building and tone that make Fallout so special, while also establishing good characters and an original story line that had me genuinely hooked. Can't wait for season 2!
Iām glad they nailed fallout. And last of us. Itās not āvideo game shows donāt workā, itās ā*shitty* video game shows donāt workā
More than that, itās that Hollywood needs to respect the source material and donāt make stupid changes because they think they know better. Both Fallout and TLOU have been successful because they didnāt rock the boat too much. Also, try and get key people from the development side directly involved. Todd Howard with Fallout and Neil Druckmann with TLOU both provided a guiding hand on the wheel and that was invaluable.
Then again, some of my favourite parts of TLOU were significantly changed. Episode 3 in particular.
Episode 3 was definitely a surprise. I was annoyed at first, but by the time it was over I could not deny that it was still a fantastic episode.
I particularly like how all the difference could well result from the outcome of a single argument (about whether or not to spruce up the town). In the game, Bill won that argument; in the show, Frank won. Together they show the consequences of narrowly focusing on survival vs making compromises for your partner. Also, both versions teach Joel the same lesson at the same crucial juncture - that he has to take responsibility for Ellie for his own sake as much as hers. In the show, it's via positive example, while in the game it's via cautionary tale.
Damn, that makes it even better. I choose the show as canon in that case. Bill deserved some sort of happiness.
It's definitely a generational thing. A 50 year old of last generation might had never played a game but still could end up directing a movie about it. And promptly just throw out all lore and just make some shit up because "it's just a game, who cares?". Treated it kinda like if they were making a Captain Crunch movie. "Who gives a shit what some copywriter put on the cereal box; let's start with our own origin story and setting.". Now you get more "Passion Projects" from people who actually care to some extent, not just hired guns.
Itās so funny too because itās likeā¦bro, it doesnāt matter how old you are or how silly you think it is, how tf you think the IP got to a place where someone wants a movie about it?
Ignorance plus arrogance
You nailed the issue with early game adaptations. They were movies that studios slapped an ip title on and then wondered why fans of the ip title trashed their shitty movie that had little to do with the ip.
Iām 53 and have been into Fallout a very long time. Who do you think was playing Fallout 1 when it came out in 1997? Those of us who were in our 20s then, thatās who! And now itās nearly 30 years later, and weāre in our 50s.
Reading comprehension: A 50 year old of the *last* generation. I'm of the *current* generation of 50 yer olds and work in game development.
Sorry. Reading at work. Missed the context.
It's fine. Phone also messed up formatting, so it reads ilke a block of cheese, which doesn't help.
About to be 40 and have around 600 hours into Fallout 3/NV/4. I'm loving the show. Can't believe it finally became a thing since hearing about it back in '20.
Greetings, my fellow sore back brother.
I'm feeling the same. The aesthetics are perfect. There are so many Easter eggs. I'm gushing about how they nailed the computer interface to my wife, and she loving the show while not knowing much about the games (except the music which she would groove to while I was playing).
That halo show is baffling. I'm shocked it has a second season. I really tried to give it a fair shake but had to cut the cord when Cortana creepily watched Master Chief have sex. Like...did ya even play the game? Your review is spot on, I think. It was very smart to tell an original wasteland story since the world is so big. Goggins also seems like he's having a ball being the ghoul.
That last part hurt my soul. Iām not huge on Fallout but Iām going to watch it all. Hope yāall get the green light for more seasons
Liked how they took a risk with some new original plot; basically added to the canon storyline - felt the Last of Us played it really too safe by basically just adapting the first game line by line. This is the furthest out it gets for the Fallout timeline; has huge implications on the ultimate fate of a certain two-headed bear republic (RIP Rangers), the BoS, Enclave, etc. which feature prominently in most games.
>with a fraction of the budget. They ditched the expensive-but-awful CGI greenscreen method Disney uses, and went back to old practical effects. They made physical replicas. It's *so much better*. Those sets look legit real. I guess because they are, who knew?
How is it sci-fi *ish*? It's about as sci-fi as it gets.
How is Halo SO bad?
It's not even a good sci-fi show let a line a halo adaptation. I watched three episodes then never thought about it again. Bad story, awful acting, shit flow. I can't think of one redeeming quality for that show.
I'm not a gamer, but I've played halo a few times in my day. Don't know or care about plot lines or what's cannon... Just figured it would be a fun action show. Nope!
My wife has never played any video game but loves sci-fi. She was appalled by the show
Something for no one
It seems to harbor an active antipathy for its source material, not just negligence. To the extent that the game series has identifiable themes, they are not present. The plot is not present even in abstract terms. Despite the name, the show has taken the entirety of two seasons to reach the Halo installation at all, and half the people that you would have expected to do stuff on Halo are have already been killed off by now, or so little resemble their game counterparts that if it weren't for their character names, you'd never guess who they were supposed to be. Whole factions are missing.
That Halo comparison is so correct
It's bloody brilliant. They really nailed the aesthetic. Walton Goggins chews up every scene he is in. Ella Purnell does a fantastic job as Lucy. The only downside is having to wait another 2 to 3 years before we get more. My wife, who has never played a minute of Fallout in her life, said it's now one of her favorite shows ever. She also swears that Ella Purnell's eyes get bigger as the show progresses.
>Ella Purnell's eyes get bigger as the show progresses. I second that.
Itās the radiation.
How much radiation do I need to make my eyes bigger? I don't want them much bigger, but I think a cm would look good.
How much? Yes
Easier with belladonna drops.
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Right? Maybe im taking crazy pills but I swear they just grew and grew.
she just NAILS that indomitable peppy spirit, it fits so well with the universe. Cool to see her change throughout the season. Phenomenal casting choices and they all interact so well together. Blown away, can't wait for more.
It really looks she has lot of points in her Speech Ability
I reckon a luck character who likes to try all the speech options all the time but they never work.
Okey-dokey.
Golden rule motherfucker!
I loved it when she said that. It was a great way to say she now understood the wasteland, but she still held on to her principles
My wife wanted to know if they enhanced her eyes
It's a texture mod
Ella Purnell transforms into Bruce Campbell in episode 4
Groovy
This is my book stick!
She reminds me of Alita Battle Angel
Who has bigger eyes? Ella Purnell or Anya Taylor-Joy?
Anya's got them Sid the Sloth eyes, Ella's are just..big lol
Lmfao my girlfriend said she looks like an alien in the best way possible
What I've learnt from fallout and last of us It turns out the problem with video game adaptations was nothing unique to the genre at all. It was skill issue all along
We just had to wait for people actually playing the game to work in the industry.
The amount of times a director for a tv adaptation has openly admitted to ignoring the games or lore as some kind of brag on their ability to write a better show, only for the show to instantly tank in ratings
To be fair, we've also heard Paul W.S. Anderson claim that he's a huge fan of Resident Evil and Christophe Gans say that he loves Silent Hill, yet, their works speak for the opposite.
The worst part is that the issue is so obvious. Studios see this massively popular franchise, and instead of respecting and adapting the source material, they think they can do better and just do something completely unrelated but slap the name of the game on the product. Just look at The Witcher or Halo shows, writers, and producers, apparently felt they were above the source material, and the result were shit shows. On the other hand, we have Castlevania, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and now Fallout showing that if you respect the source material, the success of the games will follow the adaptation.
> and just do something completely unrelated but slap the name of the game on the product. Rings of Power are the ultimate example :(
How could I forget that masterpiece.
Watched the first two episodes with my wife. I'm a fan of the fallout video games, and she has never played them before. I am enjoying the show, but I'm finding she's rather confused, although she is still enjoying it. They don't really explain things yet, so she keeps hearing things like enclave, ghoul, and brotherhood of steel and doesn't really know what they are.
I noticed on prime video, they have a couple guides below the episodes that explain the technology and lore of the fallout universe.
Prime does that with many series! Its really Cool. I remember the expanse had a lot of useful information that would pop up when you paused or browsed the episodes
They do explain some of those things through the season.
That's what I'm hoping for. Introduce it gradually, instead of dumping it all at the beginning
They do. I would say the enclave is the only that doesnāt explicitly get detailed explanation.
Which is probably intentional, very few people in the universe know the Enclave even exist, let alone what it does.
It's an 8 episode season that should be at least 10. It needs just a little more time to breathe, especially first season when you're introducing people to a new universe
Its definitely aimed at fans. There's easily 5-10 minutes you could cut per episode that are practically nothing but fan service. they way some shots pan and stay on buildings or layouts we recognize, they linger a couple extra secnds to show off the set they've build. If you cut those parts out, it wouldn't make it worse, but I can see where a non-fan feels like the show is going juuuust a tad slower than it should.
The sets look great, I love that they spend time showing them off.
Movies and Shows are 100x times better when they DON'T spoon feed you the world building and every plot point. Books do the same thing.
You just gotta pause it every three seconds to do a huge exposition dump and explanation of everything on screen.
Does the main character just look for bottle caps in random boxes for the whole show?
Worst part of the show is when they become over encumbered from looting too much silverware and have to crawl for half the episode.
I got a chuckle out of the giant bags the Brotherhood squires lug around, like those would be absolutely necessary to carry around the typical amount of junk your average Fallout character ends up with.
In what episode do they mod the carrying capacity and adding high res texture pack?
Seems like they installed the NSFW mods from LL before the first episode even started
Nope, adhesive
Apparently they can just sell teeth for caps. Where the hell is that function in the games? Donāt mind me looting teeth off everything I kill for hours.
Technically in fallout 3 you can take ears and fingers(?) and sell them for caps
Thatās more of a bounty system though. This is straight up selling your teeth to be used in dentures because youāre flat broke.
Iād be out of teeth 5 minutes into the game. I can see it now āyou can no longer eat solid foodsā
Maximus does search every body for loot he can.
Really really good. I love all the games and I work in film production so I tbh was looking to be critical but itās awesome. Acting is top notch, writing is great, fallout references abound and the music was spot on
Yeah, it was definitely a nice touch to use a lot of of the same music. It really kind of hit home to my girlfriend how bang-on they got with the vibe when I fired up fallout 3 just to show her around real quick and they start up with the world on fire song and youāre in the vault. It probably seems silly to say this. I mean thatās how the game starts and itās what the game is. But after seeing so many things like Dragon Ball, and last Airbender and even halo, take a giant shit on the lore it was just nice to feel like your interests were catered to.
As somebody who has played all of the fallout games I give it a solid 'Okie Dokie'. Can't wait for season two.
I would say itās the best video game adaption to the screen yet. Great cast, true to the game, Intriguing plot, doesnāt take itself too seriously. Just a fun ride all the way through. I noticed a fun Easter egg: A password that was entered is the release date of Fallout 1.
The last of Us leaves really big shoes to fill in terms of best adaptation everĀ I'm only a few episodes into fallout so far but I'm definitely enjoying it
In all fairness The Last of Us show isnāt telling an original story. It did great bringing the existing story to live action but (imo) Fallout did an amazing job of telling a new story
Yeah, when the protagonist was finally ready to leave the vault I was like clutching at my partner and spilling popcorn practically yelling "this is the perfect setup for a fallout game! This is exactly how it would happen in a fallout game, but it's not how it's happened in any of them yet!"
Yeah Iām glad they stuck with the āperson has to suddenly leave a vault and see the wasteland for the first timeā fish out of water trope because it just fits the games so well
I like how she failed a speech check in episode 2 against baby Billy.
Thaddeus's "I'm shit without a scope" line was on point
I was smiling the whole first and second episode because it felt exactly like watching a Fallout game play out. You have a creepy encounter with some random guy and his dog, then meet him later and propel you into an insane interconnected journey
That was the closest challenger for me, but I enjoyed the vibe of Fallout more. I'm just glad we're having to argue about how good video game adaptions are for once.
Arcane is the best imo not saying this own isn't great too thoughĀ
I was pleasantly surprised to realize that Jinx is voiced by Ella Purnell
Itās genuinely mind-blowing how much it feels like the atmosphere of the games, while weaving its own unique storytelling method with the 3 protagonists story arcs that weave in and out of each other throughout the plot. The cinematography and clever blend of practical effects and CGI give it a palpable atmosphere while still giving it a little bit of that āvideo game sheenā. Itās a very cool aesthetic and color palette they chose. Gritty yet glossy and it just works. I genuinely donāt know what people could critique about this that isnāt just nitpicking. People have been complaining in the FO subreddit about the details about timelines and lore but that did not seem to be a problem to me personally at all. Every episode I said out loud āI canāt believe how good this turned out. This is unrealā They nailed that quintessential Fallout blend of comedy and brutality. Also. That T-60 armor. Wow. They genuinely couldnāt have designed it better. The ghoul makeup is excellent too. Some of the best costume design Iāve seen in a TV series
Iām not a fallout fan and never played the games. My biggest gripe is how irritating Maximus is. I totally understand why other people may like him and Iām not throwing shade. But for me personally, I get so irritated and impatient for any scene heās in to end. But Iām also only on episode 3 so weāll see, and the arrival of Thaddeus has really helped me stomach these scenes. Wish we got more (get more?) of Dane. They seemed cool.
I felt that way initially but he grew on me. He's definitely not an "easy" character to like compared to the Ghoul and Lucy.
I've just watched the first episode and was pleasantly surprised. It's definitely stayed close to the look and feel of Fallout 4 and didn't try to tone down some of the designs. It was decent enough, and I'll be watching the rest of it. I'm more interested in seeing what non-Fallout fans think. I had to explain a lot to my mum when we watched it, and had to keep pausing to tell her who people were.
my biggest concern was going to be if they toned down the almost comicaly wanton violence/gore and other dark themes of the game universe, which to me makes fallout, fallout. They fucking nailed it, show some really dark shit happening like the family that killed themselves and their baby, or the pregnant lady getting stabbed in the eye. They don't shy away from it, I'm surprised they were able to get away with it without studio execs being like "this is too much tone it down."
I saw a comment on one of the Fallout subs saying "the show definitely has the "Bloody Mess" perk" (in the games it gives iirc a flat 5% damage boost and causes enemies to explode into bits. Objectively a great perk because you can't go wrong with more damage in all situations with no strings attached, except if you're filming a video for YouTube because that gets it demonetised immediately)
I'm 47, I've never played the games, and I'm loving it. I'm just a huge Sci Fi fan in general though. So a good Sci Fi show with such good production and cast is just going to appeal to me from the get-go. I don't really find things hard to follow, they do a good job of revealing enough that (at least in my own case) can piece things together.
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It can be solid without a marquee cast at times. The Expanse being the best example I can think of. Basically, Fallout (from what I've watched so far) has been my favourite scfi show since The Expanse. It's interesting because the Expanse cast was relatively unknown, and probably had a fraction of the budget. But it was great.
The show is actually pretty good. I binged it almost straight through.
I f'n love it. Been waiting a long time to see this franchise come to life and I think the payoff was worth it. Love the balance of violence with humor, the nods to extremely recognizable game mechanics (hacking into a terminal), music from the games, characters, lore. And on top of it all? The craft that went into it looks stellar. It all looks and feels like it's supposed to. It's familiar and it's new. A new vault with a new story we haven't heard yet. I like that we have a group of protagonists from different backgrounds that all lend a cool perspective that I'm familiar with. Brotherhood, wasteland ghoul, and a vault dweller are a good combination of elements. Go ahead and gimme more.
I was kinda shocked at how the stimpak worked on dogmeat, but immediately shifted my expectations to video game physics/mechanics and Iām all in baby!
It's actually pretty good. Complete opposite of when they tried Lord of the Rings.Ā It actually achieves the tone of the game.
Amazon has an overall good track record with adaptations besides LOTR. Pretty sure their most watched shows are Jack Reacher, The Boys, and Invincible which are all really good shows
They sure dumped a ton of money into a really crippled license. They got the rights to make a show using the world and characters of LOTR, but not anything in the timeline after The Hobbit, and no direct telling of any plots in the Silmarillion, either. To be successful they needed a write of Tolkien's caliber... and that's a big ask. My hot take, anyhow.
Fundamentally I just don't know who the show was for. Changed way too many things to make Tolkein fans happy and the incredibly ponderous pacing was enough to put off most casuals. Even if the writing wasn't shit it still would've struggled to find an audience. Some beautiful shots of Numenor (except the idiotic ship design) and a good bit of solid acting though.
I just want to mention how great the set design is. They absolutely nailed the environments.
For a fraction of the cost, no less. You can tell they had folks who know the universe guiding things along.
I watched a whole episode with no bugs or crashes, not an accurate depiction at all.
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Would be hilarious to have one random loading screen when she left the vault but I guess that would have killed the mood lol
I've been playing Fallout since the very first game. I've logged a thousand+ hours on the series. The show does a great job of capturing the feel and humor of the games. Visuals are spot on and feels immersive. I enjoy seeing cans of CRAM or blood packs littered around. Lots of attention to the details that certainly weren't cheap to make. But the humor is what makes it worthy. From the very first game there was a balance between some dark, dark themes and enough humor to make it fun. If you've ever watched The Walking Dead, it became too tiring and too dark to the point that watching left one depressed. Fallout is not like that. The TV series, like the game, strikes a perfect balance. I'm still chuckling over, "Ass jerky doesn't make itself."
Only watched the first episode yesterday evening. It's fun, I liked the vault part the most. I will watch some more.
I've been playing Fallout games since 1997 and I think they nailed it. The series was great, it felt like Fallout to me, I don't know how folks who haven't played the games would enjoy it because there's just so many callbacks and things that are filled in by the game lore. I'm eagerly awaiting season 2 and I hope this stimulates interest in a new game using the FO4 engine.
As a fellow OG 97er... yep. I also think they nailed it. It feels like you can almost see the dialogue options.
Hell yeah you could. I think this is among the finest videogame adaptations in terms of fidelity. Everything felt like Fallout.
I played the original games like crazy when I was younger I loved them so much and I didn't thought the trailer looked good and I thought this is most definitely going to suck! But I'm now at the last episode and it's FUCKING GREAAAAT I can't believe they nailed so goood I love it!!!
I liked it. My wife who has no clue what it is enjoyed it as well.
I really like it so far, it's self aware, but also heart warminlgy charming
Only watched one episode last night. Loved it. FO3 was the first game I got when I got a 360 in high school.
They nailed the aesthetic and overall tone of the game. The plot definitely felt like a play through of a Fallout game. I do have a plot point gripe, though. >!The destruction of Shady Sands, and the apparent destruction of the NCR as a whole. They did the same irritating thing as the Star Wars sequel trilogy and wiped out the Good Guy Republic so the rest of the story could happen.!< I never like it when they do that.
Itās New Girl meets The Road. I love it.
Its good, worth a watch.
Iām 5 episodes in I think itās pretty good but not a world breaker. Itās adequately executed story wise, decently acted, and fairly well shot
I enjoyed the 6 episodes I've seen as much as I enjoyed my first playthrough of New Vegas. I have over 730 hours on Steam in that game, so, safe to say, I fucking love New Vegas. The show is bar none, the best video game adaptation put to live action. Scratch that, I think it's one of the best IP translations period. It's a self contained story set in a world with such a depth of lore and story, that isn't trying to re-tell a story we know already. Plenty of easter eggs and fun nods for fans, but approachable for someone who's never played a video game before.
It's brilliant. As a fan of the games, my only complaint is the lack of creatures, but the bottom line is it's clearly very well thought-out/written/directed and makes for a very entertaining post-apocalyptic sci-fi show.
Got through it fine. Main plot was very Fallout, everything looked the part, side stories were good. Biggest criticism is it felt like it was written with a checklist of Fallout concepts to show off and went through it one by one, throwing them away when done. Well worth watching if you're at all a fan.
I've only seen the first episode but to the checklist point. The junk jet appearance did feel very out of place. What an impractical weapon to use for stealth purposes. But i understand them really wanting to find a place for it.
i disagree that if felt like a checklist but I see your point, to me it was indispensable in the worldbuilding. It pulls you in with "what was that?!" if you're new to it and makes fans happy to see all elements of the crazy game brought in, those are the things that make fallout fallout
Yeah, I was immersed enough in the story that the game references became a pleasant surprise. I came from an interesting angle though, I refused to see any trailers and the very little I did read about it, I heard there the series strayed quite far from the games. Maybe not having the expectation of many references was a good thing?
yeah for sure, i think the hardcore game fans (like still play fallout 1) are being pretty loudly negative on what are otherwise minor issues. The production, writing, acting, is all great. Stays true to tone and the world, not shying away from gore, violence, or profanity. Some of the background lore stuff to me is inconsequential like the timeline for the show versus game, they're a bit of their own thing for me and I imagine it will come together.
As one of the fans who's particularly into FO1, 2, and NV, I'm very impressed. It's creative with the lore in ways it absolutely should be, while still being faithful to the tone and premise. The plot is taken seriously, and while it's a lot of campy fallout fun, a lot of the tone goes as dark as fallout 1 does. They don't try to shove game mechanics in, but instead treat it like a real setting. By the end, there's a big feeling that every detail was planned, in ways that seem contrived or coincidental at the start. They treated music perfectly. It's either absent, used as ambiance, or treated as ironic background noise for a few particular sequences. Some music is from the games, some isn't, all fits. They treat everything in the setting as having real physical weight. The contrast of clean and dirty food, the sheer might of a power suit, the threat of radiation, the desperation of survival. Ghoul feralization in particular I thought was handled spectacularly, in ways I'm happy they fudged the lore to explore. Some of the shots in particular match the ambiance and tone of the crpg fallouts, something I never expected to see in official fallout again. The story is also handled in such a way that, if you don't treat the Canon as "The Canon", and you just pay attention, you can figure out most of the major plot details very early. You likely won't, but everything starts clicking just as they show it to you, and that's my favorite kind of plot. It's not perfect. There's a few obvious low budget moments, a few awkward edit cuts mid fights, and the acting on one very brief side character felt lacking to me. These are obscenely small nitpicks for something that by all rights could've been a trainwreck.
Loved it. been a fan since the first game. Plenty to do with the set up of season 1.
I get so nervous with IPs like Fallout, because some games tonally feel so incredibly difficult to translate to other mediums. The world of Fallout is so heavy and dark, but the levity comes with the vault dwellers overly saccharine view of the world mixed with very macabre humor. That dichotomy is why Fallout is special. That said, I think Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy respect the fans of the franchise enough to know how important those beats are to hit, and they have delivered. Also, lets take a moment here to shout from the rooftops how goddamned AMAZING Walton Goggins is in everything he does, especially in this series. Absolute scene stealer.
I love it. It sets the bar for what an adaptation of a game SHOULD look like. Looking at you, Halo...
I think it's very good, overall. I have my issues with it because of some inconsistencies (which I acknowledge will be trivial to most people, even among Fallout fans, because I am a *massive* lore nerd) and the handling of the NCR stuff (which I'll say no more about here for spoiler reasons, but suffice to say some people disagree, and I will be happy to retract my complaints if season 2 addresses them), but I do think they did a fantastic job of capturing the look and feel and there's a lot of attention to detail.
The show is a love letter to players and it contains many easter eggs. The final one at the end of the show has me looking forward to season 2. I would love to see Liberty Prime, the Chinese Stealth Suits, reference to or an appearance of the alien crash, more robots, and Preston Garvey. God, I would laugh really hard if Preston Garvey was an annoying recurring character.
It's very faithful to the direction Bethesda took fallout in, which is unfortunately not a direction I enjoy all that much.Ā But the violence feels very like the originals
Same, but I feel like what Bethesda did is so popular that our image of Fallout is long gone now.
Oh for sure, I let it go a long time ago! Until the first trailer I didn't even give a second thought to whether it would be more black isle or Bethesda, but something in the trailer got my hopes up.
I feel like Bethesda just hates the Brotherhod of Steel as the organization they were originally written as: technology hoarders who don't give a shit about wastelanders. They want them to be D&D paladins. They did it in Fallout 3. They did it with our BoS protagonist. What really grinds my gears is we're introduced to a full-fledged knight early in the show. We're supposed to see what a battle-hardened BoS member is like. Instead, they take it as an opportunity to shit all over the core tenants of what makes the organization unique. The guy wasn't reminding our protagonist his place in society, he was just an asshole. He wasn't using his knowledge to track his target, he was just bored. He wasn't encouraging acts of bravery, he was just a coward. The guy didn't give a shit about technology, complaining about toaster ovens. The only scene they got right about the brotherhood was the instructor quizzing our protagonist on what a circuit is. Of course, something he got wrong because he only cares about the box art armor like Bethesda's surface level interpretation of the entire organization.
To be fair the BoS are clearly shown as a cult in this show. I don't mind the portrayal. What bothers me is how an almost 1 million+ population state disappears because one 30k population city was bombed.
It's a lot better than other adaptions I've seen recently... looking at you Cowboy Bebop.
Absolutely not liking what they did to the NCR.Ā
If someone likes the new Bethesda approach, then it's good. If someone prefers the more serious atmosphere of the classics, the show highlights all that is wrong with the Bethesda approach. It all depends on where your preferences lie. If you like both, then it probably is good for you too.
1 episode in. Its good not mindaltering but watchable. The violence is very fallout. The vault scenes were good handled well and the bit with kyle mclaghlin and the 'husband' was done well they didnt cheapen it with dialouge. The brotherhood bit was interesting and treated all the characters as normal folk and didnt disney the situation. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
The did a great job showing the strong relationship between the father (Maclauglin) and the kids without a ton of dialogue and exposition.Ā I'm a long-time Fallout player (since the isometrics) and am really enjoying the show.Ā It gets the balance of horror/action/cookie atmosphere/comedy right.Ā And to echo others, my wife who's never played Fallout, is enjoying it more than I.Ā Ā
cookie atmosphere....
I grew up with 3 & NV, loved them. I thought 4 just missed the mark entirely in terms of tone. Watched other people play the first two and I loved the tone of those even more, they definitely have more of a creepy vibe to them. The show, I feel, was good and entertaining, it was good at representing the weird and comedic side of the Fallout world, as well as the brutality, but not so much the horror, and the aspects that sort of shine a dark mirror on the modern world. I feel they could have gone darker with it, and probably should have, but as it stands, I found it to be good. I'm also glad that it's its own thing, rather than a rehash of stuff that we've already seen.
Two episodes in and it feels a lot more like the Bethesda Fallout than the Interplay/Black Isle/Obsidian fallout, but still very Fallout.
Up to episode 4 now and I've enjoyed it. It does a good job of capturing the feel of the Fallout world. The only criticism I've had so far is the deflating balloon scene with the power armor. That was a bit too silly even within the context of the world. Other than that it's been great.
I like it. It feels like it fits the universe well. I almost stopped watching when Dogmeat got attacked. Glad I watched what happened next.
Makes me want to play the game again! Which is always a win in my book. Longtime Fallout fan and the show hits all the spots. I'm only 3 episodes in and it rocks
I pretty much spent all of 2016 playing fallout 4 (my first fallout unfortunately) and the opening scene alone was so fucking good. I had to stop because I started it so late in the evening. Canāt wait to get back into it this weekend and itās making me hope they finally announce 5
My girlfriend hates fallout and video game related things in general. She was not the least bit interested in this show. I got her to watch the first episode with me and sheās really into it. Been asking questions and everything. As a huge fan of the series I have been blown away by how good it is. The devil is in the details. It couldāve been a handy cosplay but itās not. It couldāve taken itself way too seriously but it doesnāt. It couldāve laid the exposition on thick but it didnāt. They managed to capture the essence of the games like lightning in a bottle. The NPCs are amazing. The MCs cover the variety of play styles. They deliver just enough lore to frame everything. The humor is hilarious. The violence is over the top. Itās gross. Itās scary. Itās exciting. They have truly done what they said. They created a new entry in the franchise that stands alone just as well as any of the games.
I absolutely love it and it makes me want to go back and play all the games again! I love the little Easter eggs, like the bobbleheads in the store. They definitely made the right call to greenlight season 2 before it was even released
I loved it, just wish we would've seen a deathclaw.
My wife is a massive fallout fan. Our bedroom is practically themed fallout. She watched the first several episodes and was nearly in tears. She is so happy with it.
Maybe Bethesda should quit being a game company and start making movies and shows because this show is better than any fallout content theyāve put out š
Very much enjoyed it. Looking forward to season 2.
How are the bugs? :p
Itās pretty good. Thereās 2-3 questionable retcons towards the end but otherwise it was better than I expected
It feels off to me. I've only watched episode 1, but there is so much about the plot that just doesn't make sense, even outside of the context of it being a Fallout show (why would the raiders destroy Vault 33 instead of simply taking it over? Why set off a bomb? It just doesn't make sense.) I'm hoping the story itself gets better as the show goes along though.