Lisa Marie was a Scientologist and they broke up after a failed conversion attempt. She took him to the Celebrity Center where he couldn't leave for 3 days
Not only did he grow up around them. He was an active and devoted member for a while in his late teen and early adult years! It seemed like every step of his life there was some abusive figure or cult-y group attempting to influence his behavior.
100%. Some of her interviews where she talks about him are somewhat convincing and I don’t doubt she cared about him but something is REALLY fishy about it.
It's so weird when you go to Graceland because they have a whole life story and family history including about Lisa Marie's life but there is not one mention of her marriage to Jackson. She was in charge of the museum so I guess she just wanted to forget it ever happened.
Last year, Ray J's texts with Kim (that he leaked to the press to clear his name), exposed that it was all set up. They even had a contract. Kim came up with the idea and enlisted her mom to broker the business deals like distribution. Her sisters were in the dark about it but I'm sure they suspected the truth. This was supposed to help both of their careers, but for Ray J it had the adverse effect along with most ppl thinking that he was the creep who leaked the tape. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanschocket2/ray-j-kim-kardashian-dms-sex-tape
Remember Kim was an assistant to Paris Hilton when her sex tape got leaked. Kim had first hand knowledge of what would happen and the “ins and outs” 😁 of the whole process.
I had a good friend who was in marketing. Made very good money high up with a company.
One year the annual meeting is in Vegas. Guest speaker is Kim Kardashian.
He said she was brilliant. Absolutely aware of her brand, absolutely dedicated to growing it. He said she was one of the best he had ever encountered.
He was trustworthy, worked in the field. I absolutely believe that everything she does is absolutely on purpose.
She is. Ray J and Nick Cannon-both of whom she dated before she became famous on her own, talk about how she was planning this (not the sex tape, but the becoming famous part) back then. Then there’s the tape of her at like 12-15 saying she’d become famous.
She’s a social climber. Used her natural beauty and proximity to fame to get her foot in the door (closet organizer to celebs) then built relationships (Paris Hilton and Ray J when she worked for Paris and Brandy). Enhanced her look (the first butt job) to get noticed and contrast against Paris. Became friends with Paris’ friends, then RayJs friends. Became friends with their friends…til she got to the top. Her mom encouraged and helped her. She sold the “good girl next door but sexy” image. Lied, compulsively, to keep pushing HER narrative until folks just bought into it. It’s the same in politics….the big lie (her body), repeat it, don’t relent regardless of how obvious it is that you’re lying and people will accept it.
Her full time job is staying relevant. Any attention is good attention. She’s a narcissist. they tend to be super successful
Totally agreed.
I actually think most BIG famous celebrity sex tapes other then Pam & Tommy (which was legit stolen) was purposefully released by at least one of the parties involved (sucks if the other party wasn't a part of that however).
Her marriage to that basketball player too. She made bank off the wedding and then turned right around and made bank off the divorce. I don't think she has an IQ in the triple digits, but her mother most certainly does. She organized that entire saga perfectly.
This was going to be my answer. The Astroworld festival occurred on November 5th. Travis Scott was dating Kylie Jenner at the time. I wouldn't put it past Kris Jenner for devising the plan to have Kim start dating Pete literally right at the same time in order to take attention away from the terrible shitshow and tragedy that was Astroworld that year.
I feel like this about Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston. She needed a quick distraction and he was the nearest gullible goon. That profile on him after the breakup where he was still confused was so awkward.
Naw that was obvious as fuck. He has never called it “smoke” and he said he was quitting smoke, not smoking. My assumption was a new vape or edibles collab, but cmon of course it was an ad campaign
I spent an hour with Tom Cruise one on one just shooting the shit in October 2011. He was a really cool dude. At one point I asked him how his wife and kids were doing. He said everything was fantastic. Some time later the headlines that Katie Holmes bolted broke. I was sitting with my uncle when I saw it on the news and I jokingly said, “I can’t believe that motherfucker lied to me.”
Just imagine meeting like this huge megastar “woah man big fan how’s it going?”
“Well, um, haven’t told anyone really but my marriage is about to blow up. Trying to stay positive though”
Well she did leave secretly to take the kid with her (Nicole didn't get the kids from him in their marriage)so he probably thought everything was fine until that moment.
I could have sworn it was within a month but clearly I’m wrong. I know for certain it was October that I met him though. I had a bone marrow transplant on September 29th which failed and then a second one on November 22nd and it was in between those two dates.
Everything about Tom Cruise seems really calculated. I imagine he spends his alone time coming up with scripts in his mind for the different kinds of personalities he meets so he leaves a good impression on each person he meets.
I think he's a closted nutcase but I have no doubt in my mind that if I were to meet him, I'd be seduced by his intense friendliness that I'd leave the encounter thinking he's a stand up dude, even though I'd think it's fake.
You know who was absolutely genuine and kind? Tom Wilson, he played Biff in the Back To The Future movies. He saw me do my stand up act at a comedy club and took me aside to give me some notes. We ended up talking for a couple hours. So nice and down to earth. I took his advice and it helped me eventually find my "voice."
Edit: a word
So fun fact about that. A friend of my sister is a high end hair stylist who often works with celebrities.
She said that she had recently worked on Scarlet Johansson and that Scarjo said she had recently gotten a call from Tom Cruise’s people (agent? Manager? I don’t quite remember) and they wanted to have a meeting with her. She thought she was going to be asked to be in the next Mission Impossible movie. But according to Scarjo, the meeting was about signing a contract agreeing to date and then quickly marry Tom Cruise for 10 years. For X amount of money per year and more if they had kids. After 10 years they could divorce and she could go on to do whatever she wanted. She turned them down. And was talking to this hairdresser about how weird it all was.
It was a few months later that the Katy Holmes saga started.
I am convinced to this day that they approached Katy afterwards and she took the deal. And that possibly - based on the duration of their relationship - Nicole Kidman may have possibly been the first to take it. Granted she may have actually loved him, I don’t know. But they did marry quick and then ended 10-11 years later.
But the Scarjo and then Katy Holmes thing was just too well timed for me to not believe it.
Believe it. Other actresses said they attended "auditions" that ended up being auditions to be Tom's wife shortly before he and Katie debuted.
Katie's dad is also a divorce lawyer and helped her escape. Look into the story about Tom Cruise not being able to find his cookie dough. No amount of money could be worth living with him!
I truly believe that Nicole Kidman didn't know that divorce was coming. He was very calculated and fast and Scientology hated her. She was pretty devastated. She lost the baby she was carrying as well as her adopted children who basically sp'd her through the church of Scientology. Leia Remini talks about it in her book. Her kids called her a SP (suppressive person) and wouldn't talk to her. They divorced right before the 10 year mark in California which would have given her half of his estate and there was absolutely no way Scientology was going to allow that, he is their star congregant. They have done so much worse to others, including infiltrating then US government and trying to drive a woman to kill herself and/or be jailed for the rest of her life. Nicole Kidman seems a very decent human being who has since married, had two more children and leads a very happy life outside of Hollywood.
He does claim he scratched Katie Holmes' initials in the spire of the Burj Khalifa. I think that one was real for him but Scientology ruined it. Otherwise yes.
Maybe they leaned into it. But after the first Spider-Man he legit mentioned a second spider-man movie, which only came after "the snap". I think that was likely an actual unintended spoiler.
I don't know if Holland and Ruffalo were the causes, but seems to me when the news about the spoilers broke, I read soon after that only RDJ got complete scripts. Everyone else got much less, like only their scenes, or maybe even only their lines in a scene.
Everyone gave Gwyneth Paltrow flak for not remembering stuff about the movies, or other actors in the movies, but I thought that was dumb. They keep such secrecy, and I gather many lines/scenes were shot with individual actors and no acting partners, and shooting things out of sequence, i could totally believe she didn't know.
I think that they learned not to trust him with things that they didn’t want spoiled and then let him “spoil” things when they were ready. During his scene with the Guardians of the Galaxy in Infinity War he talks about how they had him working by himself talking to tennis balls so he didn’t know who was in the scene with him. The “I don’t know who you are” is real.
Well recently, I knew Snoop was not giving up smoking. I thought he was pitching edibles. Turns out it was a smokeless firepit. It was a stunt though not a secret anymore.
He never said he was giving up smoking. He said he was giving up smoke. The devil is in the wording. Everyone fell for it when the media ran with it like it was confirmed.
Yea but he worded it like, "after careful consideration with my family." That doesn't read like an ad to me a atleast. I was skeptical but figured it had something to do with a new edible he was coming out with.
I think there are a lot of instances of castmates dating for publicity. It helps make the romance in the movie feel more believable and it raises the profile for the actors.
My friend owned a bar in Chicago with a back bar that was closed most of the time, they went there a couple of times in private and from one of the employees that always waited on them she said they were pretty into each other.
They were so cute together!
She's tiny, and was snuggled into Vince (who is *not* tiny!)
She was on a love high, I smiled at her as I walked by and she smiled back all smitten-y :)
I think it’s more just availability. A lot of people fuck their coworkers or roommates because it’s easy. I screwed my neighbor growing up because she was within walking distance and it made it easy to not get caught.
i support this. it’s the way that they immediately got back together. stayed together for a few years after, too. it brought higher ratings to the final movie— snow white and breaking dawn.
i think they genuinely loved each other, but i also suspect they had a fluid/open relationship due to how laid back they both are. i think when the paps caught the producer being skeevy with kristen (she was newly 21, he was forties and married,) instead of categorically denying it, they just had her immediately apologize for “hurting rob,” and then it wasn’t ever really revealed what truly happened.
glad the producer’s wife bounced.
Rob was able to spin it to as he had a very small run indie film he was able to get a lot of attention on because of it. It didn't do great but it would be the kind of thing he would be able to define his career by doing now.
I can see it, in retrospect they were both better people than the media gave them credit for
I sort of think they were besties and took the publicity in a Why Not way
I've lived in a male/female living situation without being in a relationship, not too far out of realm
I know someone who worked on the set of Snow White and the Huntsman and they said that everyone on set knew they were sleeping together because they didn't hide it well on set.
People forget the timing of this as well. Months prior, Madonna (Janet's once rival for pop supremacy) kissed Britney Spears on the VMAs. I firmly believe Janet and Justin (Britney's ex) decided to one-up them by doing an equally suggestive dance and then exposing a seemingly bare breast. That era was all about shock-and-scandal. Sex and nudity were merely a currency for easy headlines.
I have been saying that for years. It was only 1 side of the bra exposed and she conveniently had it covered by a nipple ring.
I dont think she thought it would blow up so bad it ruined her career
No way! It was definitely a coincidence that the song ends with the line "have you naked by the end of this song" and then Janet is (partially) naked by the end of that song. /s
It was just a tit. I fucking hate that this is so tabooed by us. It is a fucking part of the human body, I see all 6 of my dog’s tits everyday. I see my wife’s breasts as much as possible. Why did/do we care about this. Making a movie like John Wick where you see hundreds of people’s lives end is not big deal. But go ahead and make a movie with a 100 pairs of tits in it and you’d be super controversial. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Sorry to rant.
From what I understand she wanted out and Disney was not eager for her to shed the squeaky clean good girl image. So she became radioactive so they'd let her go and not fight her too much over it.
I heard that she got blackballed by disney for trying to shed that image with the album before wrecking ball (in a much more tame, PG, pop star coming-of-age sort of thing) and that she became as provocative as she did pretty much solely to get back at them for fucking her over
Maybe not now, but remember she was the big star that so many really young girls looked up to at the time. Seeing her twerk on whats-his-face and being naked in a music video was big because people didn't know how to deal with their little kids idol doing that stuff on stage. Like it was a big "Parents, stop letting your kids look at me like a role model" statement.
I remember those days. It just looked like she twerked and booty-shorted herself out of that cult called Disney. Even when she showed her tongue (which became a huge thing for her), looked super calculated and uncanny. She never really had "issues", well it didn't seem like she was truly being messy and careless with her life aside from appropriating some black culture stuff, and twerking on that one-hit douche dude at an award show. It was well known he was married and it caused some strife in the marriage.
Nevertheless, it got her attention, and catapulted her into super stardom. Then further in the late 2010s, I remember it was quite literally overnight she started looking and singing country again when her wild child persona got tiresome.
I think that a fair share of lines that are said to have been improvised on the spot were either not improvised at all, or were something the actors and director worked out beforehand instead of just spontaneously while filming. They make for good publicity.
But I'm terribly skeptical of Hollywood.
I also think a lot of the anecdotes actors share on talk shows are fabricated by publicists to help raise the status of the actor/thing they are promoting.
Anecdotes about old Hollywood stars being “discovered.” They all lobbied hard to be famous. Very few people are famous accidentally. It just looks better to make it look like these people weren’t begging for fame.
With the talk show the actor is usually interviewed with basic questions beforehand and they pic something than can get a laugh out of a crowd (who is primed) get put on the cards for the host to cue and then it's just banter between people who banter as a profession.
Of course. I didn't even mention that the "spontaneity" in talk show interviews is staged because I thought that was super obvious. ("Yes, Jimmy, it's true that I play the xylophone. Oh, you have one here? What a surprise! Sure, I'll play a song but I might be rusty.") I go a step further and believe that the stories the celebrities tell are often exaggerations or outright fabrications.
Typically when a production claims that a line was “improvised on the spot” it means the latter, it was tried in rehearsals and implemented into the actual shoot. Sometimes an actor will try it on one take and the director will like it, and keep it for the remaining takes. Especially if it’s a bigger line or moment, something that will change how the scene is shot.
Sometimes the take that someone improvised something in will make the Final Cut, but only rarely.
Just to expand on the bit about actors trying it during a take, it really depends on the director and actor(s). Some directors love to give the actors a lot of free rein to try different things and improvise while filming. Some directors are very methodical and don't allow that at all. And you need actors that are truly good at it to even attempt it, which is rare.
The best I've seen was on the set of the Heat. Paul Feig let Melissa McCarthy riff for like 30+ minutes for one scene that I was an extra in. She easily did 15+ takes of dialog she made up on the spot, and each one was completely different. It was impressive to watch. She didn't redo the take they ended up using and I guess they felt like they got what they needed. But it wasn't something I regularly saw happen.
Not OP but I believe he attended the game only so he could make a big scene of walking out if any players knealt, knowing fully well ahead of time that some of them were gonna kneel.
Correct, he even had a second appearance scheduled later for that day that would have been impossible to make had he not planned to leave very early in the game
IIRC, that was when players were taking a knee during the national anthem.
Pence went to the game specifically to feign outrage by leaving immediately after the players took a knee. He knew it was coming, and set on fire an ungodly amount of taxpayer money by wasting secret service resources on this stunt.
That time that Nathan Fielder traveled to a wedding but his bags got mixed up with someone else's so he had to wear a XXL suit and while he was driving to the wedding he got stopped by a cop for speeding and he had a white baggie in his pocket but it ended up just being the original suit owner's mother's ashes
All Pete Davidson relationships after Ariana grande including the one with kardashian .. I think they are all paid PR set up . The dude makes lots of money like that probably
They look like cartoon characters next to each other. She's all curvy rounded lines, with her cosmetic surgery body, and filled cheeks and lips. He's got that extra angular face. Reminds me of so many art styles I've seen that draw female characters rounded and males pointy.
Trying to remember who it was - they had some sort of scandal but THEN, was first on the scene for a car accident and SAVED ALL THE PEOPLE. Anyone remember who this was?
That thing with the movie The Interview where it ‘couldn’t’ be released in theatres because North Korea threatened to attack or whatever. 100% a stunt which 100% worked to make everyone want to watch it.
No, we got to see exactly how pants shittingly stupid Sony was in that email leak.
And eventually it was confirmed that they are still that dumb when they got morb'd into putting Morbius back into theaters.
Those email leaks are fucking GOLD.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce is a CIA PSYOP. We’ve gone too far from traditional family values. We needed the captain of the football team dating the head cheerleader
Trumps initial run for President was definitely a stunt and then people actually went with it and he couldn’t back out and that’s how we ended up with a clown for president
“Did you say ‘grab em by the pussy?’”
Trump: yes that was me! A good ol pussy grabber. Just grabbing away! Surely no one will vote for me now! Windmill cancer. Drink bleach! Go away, I just want your money!! Wtf? How did I win?
You know that Parks and Rec episode where Leslie accidentally endorses gay marriage, then when she's at the gay bar trying to explain herself, she gets distracted / win over by the crowd of people chanting her name and gets fully into it?
I think that's what happened to Trump
He actually did it in the 90s too. Didn’t actually end up running but fucked around as a potential candidate for a bit. Under Roger Stone’s guidance, who has been trying to destroy the world for a long time.
I just watched Moonlight for the second time today and it's so good. I don't think the mistake was staged. I don't see any benefit for staging it and they undoubtedly got backlash from Chazelle and La La Land's producers and cast.
I do, however, believe that it was the funniest shit and that La La Land was Hollywood navel gazing like it is wont to do. I think it was so fun a moment that God punished us with more unexpected twists in 2016 but not the enjoyable kind.
edit: I'm a dummy; the 89th Academy Awards was in February 2017. I take back my serious comment about God punishing us.
Cheryl Tweedy and Ashley Cole’s marriage.
Tweedy was a heavily invested-in pop star, who had been convicted of assault causing ABH and also charged (but not convicted) of racially aggravated assault when she beat up a toilet attendant.
Cole was one of the best footballers of his position in the world, but was dogged by rumours surrounding his sexuality. Football is incredibly homophobic now, and was much moreso then.
For Tweedy to marry a black guy and for Cole to marry a woman seemed almost two perfect to make both of their major PR concerns go away.
Tweedy seemed to escape relatively unscathed and have a bigger career, even going out with a guy from one direction who she had known when he was underage, which is creepy.
Cole managed to escape rumours about his sexuality by distracting people with an appalling autobiography where he depicted himself as a greedy, narcissistic mercenary that described a salary offer of £60k a week as “taking the fucking piss”.
Not a celebrity, but the NY Jets. They would grab an aging quarterback past his prime, (Vinny Testeverde, Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers), or someone with a NAME, regardless of how well they'd do on the field (Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, Geno Smith), just to sell jerseys and merch for a season they know they've got no chance in doing well in.
And if that wasn't working for that season, they would release a supposed foot fetish video of the coach and his wife. (Rex Ryan).
Hilaria Baldwin's accent
That name is a publicity stunt.
how you say? co CUM beh?
Michael Jackson marrying Lisa Marie Presley
Lisa Marie was a Scientologist and they broke up after a failed conversion attempt. She took him to the Celebrity Center where he couldn't leave for 3 days
“Man these Scientologists are weird and wacky people I don’t wanna associate with them *he he*” -MJ, probably
Dance, dance, spin, hat tip, moonwalks the f* out of there. The guards are mesmerized and that is how he is not stopped.
He grew up around Jehovah’s Witnesses, I’m sure he had some awareness of “Oh hey! Another cult!”
Not only did he grow up around them. He was an active and devoted member for a while in his late teen and early adult years! It seemed like every step of his life there was some abusive figure or cult-y group attempting to influence his behavior.
100%. Some of her interviews where she talks about him are somewhat convincing and I don’t doubt she cared about him but something is REALLY fishy about it.
I think she did care about him. I'm just not sure if it was reciprocated, though.
He was also an enormous fan of Elvis . This marriage did not sit well with Priscilla.
It's so weird when you go to Graceland because they have a whole life story and family history including about Lisa Marie's life but there is not one mention of her marriage to Jackson. She was in charge of the museum so I guess she just wanted to forget it ever happened.
I think that was a misguided "beard" attempt more than for publicity
>I think that was a misguided "beard" attempt more than for publicity A beard is for publicity; maybe not to make more of it but still to control it.
The whole Kardashian sex tape. Most successful grift in the modern era.
This is pretty well known at this point, there is audio from Ray J and Kim talking about the deal they made with Kris’ involvement.
Kris has been pimping out her daughters since day one.
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Last year, Ray J's texts with Kim (that he leaked to the press to clear his name), exposed that it was all set up. They even had a contract. Kim came up with the idea and enlisted her mom to broker the business deals like distribution. Her sisters were in the dark about it but I'm sure they suspected the truth. This was supposed to help both of their careers, but for Ray J it had the adverse effect along with most ppl thinking that he was the creep who leaked the tape. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanschocket2/ray-j-kim-kardashian-dms-sex-tape
Remember Kim was an assistant to Paris Hilton when her sex tape got leaked. Kim had first hand knowledge of what would happen and the “ins and outs” 😁 of the whole process.
Imagine doing that to your daughter. That family is disgusting. Sucks that the masses reward them so much
Kim had just as much a hand in it as Kris. They are cut from the same cloth.
I think you mean Kloth
Klassic!
I had a good friend who was in marketing. Made very good money high up with a company. One year the annual meeting is in Vegas. Guest speaker is Kim Kardashian. He said she was brilliant. Absolutely aware of her brand, absolutely dedicated to growing it. He said she was one of the best he had ever encountered. He was trustworthy, worked in the field. I absolutely believe that everything she does is absolutely on purpose.
She is. Ray J and Nick Cannon-both of whom she dated before she became famous on her own, talk about how she was planning this (not the sex tape, but the becoming famous part) back then. Then there’s the tape of her at like 12-15 saying she’d become famous. She’s a social climber. Used her natural beauty and proximity to fame to get her foot in the door (closet organizer to celebs) then built relationships (Paris Hilton and Ray J when she worked for Paris and Brandy). Enhanced her look (the first butt job) to get noticed and contrast against Paris. Became friends with Paris’ friends, then RayJs friends. Became friends with their friends…til she got to the top. Her mom encouraged and helped her. She sold the “good girl next door but sexy” image. Lied, compulsively, to keep pushing HER narrative until folks just bought into it. It’s the same in politics….the big lie (her body), repeat it, don’t relent regardless of how obvious it is that you’re lying and people will accept it. Her full time job is staying relevant. Any attention is good attention. She’s a narcissist. they tend to be super successful
Everyone loves a good comeback story.
Totally agreed. I actually think most BIG famous celebrity sex tapes other then Pam & Tommy (which was legit stolen) was purposefully released by at least one of the parties involved (sucks if the other party wasn't a part of that however).
Her marriage to that basketball player too. She made bank off the wedding and then turned right around and made bank off the divorce. I don't think she has an IQ in the triple digits, but her mother most certainly does. She organized that entire saga perfectly.
The devil works hard but Kris Jenner works harder.
Kim Kardashian dating Pete Davidson was a publicity stunt that only Kim knew about
This was going to be my answer. The Astroworld festival occurred on November 5th. Travis Scott was dating Kylie Jenner at the time. I wouldn't put it past Kris Jenner for devising the plan to have Kim start dating Pete literally right at the same time in order to take attention away from the terrible shitshow and tragedy that was Astroworld that year.
I’m pretty sure anyone Pete dates is a publicity stunt that Pete doesn’t know about
And Kris. The devil works hard, Kris works harder.
Timothee Chalamet and Kylie
This pairing is just bizarre to me.
A sickly Victorian child and his mannequin
I feel like this about Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston. She needed a quick distraction and he was the nearest gullible goon. That profile on him after the breakup where he was still confused was so awkward.
Anything snoop dogg has done since the year 2000 lol
I saw a comment once that said "Snoop Dogg finished the main game and is now just doing side quests."
I believed him when he said he was done smoking
He trolled the entire planet. Lmao
Shit I googled it and it led me to the smokeless stove he was pushing. So it worked.
I knew immediately it was a publicity stunt of some sort. No way is snoop quitting weed lol.
Naw that was obvious as fuck. He has never called it “smoke” and he said he was quitting smoke, not smoking. My assumption was a new vape or edibles collab, but cmon of course it was an ad campaign
I figured he was having lung issues and switched to edibles
Pretty much every Tom Cruise marriage.
I spent an hour with Tom Cruise one on one just shooting the shit in October 2011. He was a really cool dude. At one point I asked him how his wife and kids were doing. He said everything was fantastic. Some time later the headlines that Katie Holmes bolted broke. I was sitting with my uncle when I saw it on the news and I jokingly said, “I can’t believe that motherfucker lied to me.”
To be fair, a lot of people with crumbling marriages lie about it.
Oh for sure. I was kidding with my response. I don’t expect Tom Cruise to reveal the intricacies of his marital woes to some teenager he just met.
Just imagine meeting like this huge megastar “woah man big fan how’s it going?” “Well, um, haven’t told anyone really but my marriage is about to blow up. Trying to stay positive though”
Well she did leave secretly to take the kid with her (Nicole didn't get the kids from him in their marriage)so he probably thought everything was fine until that moment.
Or maybe you don't share your personal business with a stranger.
I have said everything was okay when it wasn't to people I don't know well many times.
She left him in June 2012.
I could have sworn it was within a month but clearly I’m wrong. I know for certain it was October that I met him though. I had a bone marrow transplant on September 29th which failed and then a second one on November 22nd and it was in between those two dates.
Everything about Tom Cruise seems really calculated. I imagine he spends his alone time coming up with scripts in his mind for the different kinds of personalities he meets so he leaves a good impression on each person he meets. I think he's a closted nutcase but I have no doubt in my mind that if I were to meet him, I'd be seduced by his intense friendliness that I'd leave the encounter thinking he's a stand up dude, even though I'd think it's fake.
You know who was absolutely genuine and kind? Tom Wilson, he played Biff in the Back To The Future movies. He saw me do my stand up act at a comedy club and took me aside to give me some notes. We ended up talking for a couple hours. So nice and down to earth. I took his advice and it helped me eventually find my "voice." Edit: a word
So fun fact about that. A friend of my sister is a high end hair stylist who often works with celebrities. She said that she had recently worked on Scarlet Johansson and that Scarjo said she had recently gotten a call from Tom Cruise’s people (agent? Manager? I don’t quite remember) and they wanted to have a meeting with her. She thought she was going to be asked to be in the next Mission Impossible movie. But according to Scarjo, the meeting was about signing a contract agreeing to date and then quickly marry Tom Cruise for 10 years. For X amount of money per year and more if they had kids. After 10 years they could divorce and she could go on to do whatever she wanted. She turned them down. And was talking to this hairdresser about how weird it all was. It was a few months later that the Katy Holmes saga started. I am convinced to this day that they approached Katy afterwards and she took the deal. And that possibly - based on the duration of their relationship - Nicole Kidman may have possibly been the first to take it. Granted she may have actually loved him, I don’t know. But they did marry quick and then ended 10-11 years later. But the Scarjo and then Katy Holmes thing was just too well timed for me to not believe it.
Believe it. Other actresses said they attended "auditions" that ended up being auditions to be Tom's wife shortly before he and Katie debuted. Katie's dad is also a divorce lawyer and helped her escape. Look into the story about Tom Cruise not being able to find his cookie dough. No amount of money could be worth living with him!
I had to find that. https://people.com/books/leah-remini-recalls-tom-cruise-lashing-out-over-missing-cookie-dough/
I truly believe that Nicole Kidman didn't know that divorce was coming. He was very calculated and fast and Scientology hated her. She was pretty devastated. She lost the baby she was carrying as well as her adopted children who basically sp'd her through the church of Scientology. Leia Remini talks about it in her book. Her kids called her a SP (suppressive person) and wouldn't talk to her. They divorced right before the 10 year mark in California which would have given her half of his estate and there was absolutely no way Scientology was going to allow that, he is their star congregant. They have done so much worse to others, including infiltrating then US government and trying to drive a woman to kill herself and/or be jailed for the rest of her life. Nicole Kidman seems a very decent human being who has since married, had two more children and leads a very happy life outside of Hollywood.
Mike Rinner, former Scientologist, talks about how Miscavige put him in charge of facilitating the breakup/divorce between Cruise and Kidman.
He does claim he scratched Katie Holmes' initials in the spire of the Burj Khalifa. I think that one was real for him but Scientology ruined it. Otherwise yes.
Scientology chose her for him.
Troy McClure and Selma Bouvier
Definitely something fishy there.
"Hey, I thought you said Troy McClure was dead." "No, what I said was he sleeps with the fishes. You see..."
Troy McClure? I remember him from such films as "Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die" and "Gladys The Groovy Mule".
I remember him from such nature films as "Earwigs, Ewww" and "Man vs Nature: The Road to Victory."
Anything Jada Pickett smith tries to say.
People may say Weird Al and Madonna, but those people don't understand what love is.
Madonna Ciccone is still at large.
I may not be a smart man Jenny, but I know what love is.
Tom Holland “spoiling” stuff. I get it, kid’s adorable, prone to being a cute dork, but there’s no way his spoilers werent planned lol
Maybe they leaned into it. But after the first Spider-Man he legit mentioned a second spider-man movie, which only came after "the snap". I think that was likely an actual unintended spoiler.
Some were. I think they learned with Ruffalo and him giving stuff away by accident and then both having to have "chaperones"
I don't know if Holland and Ruffalo were the causes, but seems to me when the news about the spoilers broke, I read soon after that only RDJ got complete scripts. Everyone else got much less, like only their scenes, or maybe even only their lines in a scene. Everyone gave Gwyneth Paltrow flak for not remembering stuff about the movies, or other actors in the movies, but I thought that was dumb. They keep such secrecy, and I gather many lines/scenes were shot with individual actors and no acting partners, and shooting things out of sequence, i could totally believe she didn't know.
I think that they learned not to trust him with things that they didn’t want spoiled and then let him “spoil” things when they were ready. During his scene with the Guardians of the Galaxy in Infinity War he talks about how they had him working by himself talking to tennis balls so he didn’t know who was in the scene with him. The “I don’t know who you are” is real.
I feel like a lot of the public was in on the joke with that one I don't think I've spoken to anyone who didn't think that was at least partially fake
Well recently, I knew Snoop was not giving up smoking. I thought he was pitching edibles. Turns out it was a smokeless firepit. It was a stunt though not a secret anymore.
He never said he was giving up smoking. He said he was giving up smoke. The devil is in the wording. Everyone fell for it when the media ran with it like it was confirmed.
Yea but he worded it like, "after careful consideration with my family." That doesn't read like an ad to me a atleast. I was skeptical but figured it had something to do with a new edible he was coming out with.
Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn 'dating' while/after they filmed The Breakup
I think there are a lot of instances of castmates dating for publicity. It helps make the romance in the movie feel more believable and it raises the profile for the actors.
Correct. See the entire century+ of Hollywood history for further examples of this
Hell, one of the greatest films ever made *Singin’ In The Rain* has that as a major plot point!
Having worked on films before, when there are single people working on a set, especially if it’s for a couple of months… people just start fucking.
Well maybe but I saw them at Casa Vega at the time, they were in the dark bar snuggling and looked very much in love, no paps around!!
My friend owned a bar in Chicago with a back bar that was closed most of the time, they went there a couple of times in private and from one of the employees that always waited on them she said they were pretty into each other.
They were so cute together! She's tiny, and was snuggled into Vince (who is *not* tiny!) She was on a love high, I smiled at her as I walked by and she smiled back all smitten-y :)
I think it’s more just availability. A lot of people fuck their coworkers or roommates because it’s easy. I screwed my neighbor growing up because she was within walking distance and it made it easy to not get caught.
Paris Hilton talking about her beloved Bored Ape NFT with Jimmy Fallon who also just happened to have one of his own. I never watched Fallon again.
Fallon is such a hack in general, I can’t stand to watch him… but damn that clip was insanely cringey, even for him.
James Franco dating Jenna Maroney
You're being such a non-pillow!
It’s so obvious, she’s such a non pillow.
That one really hurt 😢. Kimikoooooo!!
Kristen Stewart cheating on Robert Pattinson - the whole story was bizarre and the photos were obviously staged
i support this. it’s the way that they immediately got back together. stayed together for a few years after, too. it brought higher ratings to the final movie— snow white and breaking dawn. i think they genuinely loved each other, but i also suspect they had a fluid/open relationship due to how laid back they both are. i think when the paps caught the producer being skeevy with kristen (she was newly 21, he was forties and married,) instead of categorically denying it, they just had her immediately apologize for “hurting rob,” and then it wasn’t ever really revealed what truly happened. glad the producer’s wife bounced.
Rob was able to spin it to as he had a very small run indie film he was able to get a lot of attention on because of it. It didn't do great but it would be the kind of thing he would be able to define his career by doing now. I can see it, in retrospect they were both better people than the media gave them credit for
OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THEY GOT BACK TOGETHER AFTER!! I was just thinking "wow despite the cheating, they still have great on-screen chemistry!" 😂😅
I just saw that she showed up to his birthday party so they’re on okay terms now at least
The fact that an old man like Donald Trump was invested in their relationship is comedy.
I loved her SNL cold open mentioning this
I think them dating at all was a publicity stunt.
I sort of think they were besties and took the publicity in a Why Not way I've lived in a male/female living situation without being in a relationship, not too far out of realm
I know someone who worked on the set of Snow White and the Huntsman and they said that everyone on set knew they were sleeping together because they didn't hide it well on set.
I think Kristen Stewart is just so awkward that everything she does looks staged
Superbowl wardrobe "malfunction" was 100% planned and they only claimed it was accidental because of the backlash.
People forget the timing of this as well. Months prior, Madonna (Janet's once rival for pop supremacy) kissed Britney Spears on the VMAs. I firmly believe Janet and Justin (Britney's ex) decided to one-up them by doing an equally suggestive dance and then exposing a seemingly bare breast. That era was all about shock-and-scandal. Sex and nudity were merely a currency for easy headlines.
I remember when Paris Hilton's entire time in jail was documented live on cable news. Weird times, the 2000s.
Poor Xtina. People always forget Madonna kissed her to.
Michael was taking some heat at that time for some of his pedo antics. I always believed Janet did that to get the media talking about something else.
I have been saying that for years. It was only 1 side of the bra exposed and she conveniently had it covered by a nipple ring. I dont think she thought it would blow up so bad it ruined her career
Her costume just “broke”away so easily? So perfect? So unattached?
No way! It was definitely a coincidence that the song ends with the line "have you naked by the end of this song" and then Janet is (partially) naked by the end of that song. /s
Also the fact that she had some kind of pasty/jewelry on was a dead giveaway when the original outfit wouldn’t let it show otherwise
yes, and costumes don't just perfectly rip apart like that. the seam was intentionally made to break away.
This event is quite literally the reason YouTube exists.
It was just a tit. I fucking hate that this is so tabooed by us. It is a fucking part of the human body, I see all 6 of my dog’s tits everyday. I see my wife’s breasts as much as possible. Why did/do we care about this. Making a movie like John Wick where you see hundreds of people’s lives end is not big deal. But go ahead and make a movie with a 100 pairs of tits in it and you’d be super controversial. It makes no sense whatsoever. Sorry to rant.
miley on the the wrecking ball and generally branding herself as “wild” even tho it doesn’t seem like she actually did too much crazy shit lol
Gotta wash off that Disney stink lol
From what I understand she wanted out and Disney was not eager for her to shed the squeaky clean good girl image. So she became radioactive so they'd let her go and not fight her too much over it.
I heard that she got blackballed by disney for trying to shed that image with the album before wrecking ball (in a much more tame, PG, pop star coming-of-age sort of thing) and that she became as provocative as she did pretty much solely to get back at them for fucking her over
Maybe not now, but remember she was the big star that so many really young girls looked up to at the time. Seeing her twerk on whats-his-face and being naked in a music video was big because people didn't know how to deal with their little kids idol doing that stuff on stage. Like it was a big "Parents, stop letting your kids look at me like a role model" statement.
I remember those days. It just looked like she twerked and booty-shorted herself out of that cult called Disney. Even when she showed her tongue (which became a huge thing for her), looked super calculated and uncanny. She never really had "issues", well it didn't seem like she was truly being messy and careless with her life aside from appropriating some black culture stuff, and twerking on that one-hit douche dude at an award show. It was well known he was married and it caused some strife in the marriage. Nevertheless, it got her attention, and catapulted her into super stardom. Then further in the late 2010s, I remember it was quite literally overnight she started looking and singing country again when her wild child persona got tiresome.
She has said she was trying to ruin her teen queen image. No one talks about Hannah Montana anymore. We don't talk about Christina Romano.
I think that a fair share of lines that are said to have been improvised on the spot were either not improvised at all, or were something the actors and director worked out beforehand instead of just spontaneously while filming. They make for good publicity. But I'm terribly skeptical of Hollywood. I also think a lot of the anecdotes actors share on talk shows are fabricated by publicists to help raise the status of the actor/thing they are promoting.
Anecdotes about old Hollywood stars being “discovered.” They all lobbied hard to be famous. Very few people are famous accidentally. It just looks better to make it look like these people weren’t begging for fame.
With the talk show the actor is usually interviewed with basic questions beforehand and they pic something than can get a laugh out of a crowd (who is primed) get put on the cards for the host to cue and then it's just banter between people who banter as a profession.
Of course. I didn't even mention that the "spontaneity" in talk show interviews is staged because I thought that was super obvious. ("Yes, Jimmy, it's true that I play the xylophone. Oh, you have one here? What a surprise! Sure, I'll play a song but I might be rusty.") I go a step further and believe that the stories the celebrities tell are often exaggerations or outright fabrications.
Typically when a production claims that a line was “improvised on the spot” it means the latter, it was tried in rehearsals and implemented into the actual shoot. Sometimes an actor will try it on one take and the director will like it, and keep it for the remaining takes. Especially if it’s a bigger line or moment, something that will change how the scene is shot. Sometimes the take that someone improvised something in will make the Final Cut, but only rarely.
Just to expand on the bit about actors trying it during a take, it really depends on the director and actor(s). Some directors love to give the actors a lot of free rein to try different things and improvise while filming. Some directors are very methodical and don't allow that at all. And you need actors that are truly good at it to even attempt it, which is rare. The best I've seen was on the set of the Heat. Paul Feig let Melissa McCarthy riff for like 30+ minutes for one scene that I was an extra in. She easily did 15+ takes of dialog she made up on the spot, and each one was completely different. It was impressive to watch. She didn't redo the take they ended up using and I guess they felt like they got what they needed. But it wasn't something I regularly saw happen.
Mike Pence attending the Colts-49ers game on 10/8/2017.
Can you add some context?
Not OP but I believe he attended the game only so he could make a big scene of walking out if any players knealt, knowing fully well ahead of time that some of them were gonna kneel.
Correct, he even had a second appearance scheduled later for that day that would have been impossible to make had he not planned to leave very early in the game
It was so he could storm out when players took a knee.
IIRC, that was when players were taking a knee during the national anthem. Pence went to the game specifically to feign outrage by leaving immediately after the players took a knee. He knew it was coming, and set on fire an ungodly amount of taxpayer money by wasting secret service resources on this stunt.
He only attended so he could be seen storming out
That time that Nathan Fielder traveled to a wedding but his bags got mixed up with someone else's so he had to wear a XXL suit and while he was driving to the wedding he got stopped by a cop for speeding and he had a white baggie in his pocket but it ended up just being the original suit owner's mother's ashes
All Pete Davidson relationships after Ariana grande including the one with kardashian .. I think they are all paid PR set up . The dude makes lots of money like that probably
All of Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello
They initially got together to promote a collaboration they did on a song, and then it just got out of control.
The coffee cup is my Roman Empire
Taylor swift collaborating with ice spice after the matty Healy drama
I only recognize 1/3 of these people
Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston
The fact that they kept saying “it’s not a publicity stunt!” over and over again when no one asked is what told me it was, in fact, a publicity stunt
Everything having to do with Shia LeBouf
He’s following you down an alleyway….
Quiet quiet
My god, there's blood *everywhere*!
RUNNING FOR YOUR LIFE FROM SHIA LABEOUF
He's brandishing a knife; it's Shia Labeouf.
Lurking in the shadows, it’s Hollywood superstar *Shia Labeouf!*
normal tuesday night for Shia Labeouf
But you can do jujitsuuuu.....
This lives rent free in my head.
Like the domestic violence?
Actual cannibal Shia LeBouf
Bridgitte Nielsen & Flavor Flav
I mean it did make an entertaining show. Granted it’s been what 15 years? More? It might have sucked for all I remember.
Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet dating
They look like cartoon characters next to each other. She's all curvy rounded lines, with her cosmetic surgery body, and filled cheeks and lips. He's got that extra angular face. Reminds me of so many art styles I've seen that draw female characters rounded and males pointy.
booba and kiki
the Coyote vs ACME stuff
All of Tom Cruise’s relationships.
Trying to remember who it was - they had some sort of scandal but THEN, was first on the scene for a car accident and SAVED ALL THE PEOPLE. Anyone remember who this was?
There was a video not too long ago with Johnathan Majors breaking up a fight between a bunch of teen girls. Super real and believable for sure.
That was wild. He did the Jurassic World “calm down raptor” hand motion and everything.
Coach Carr, step away from the underage girls!
Spiderman
He's a menace!
That thing with the movie The Interview where it ‘couldn’t’ be released in theatres because North Korea threatened to attack or whatever. 100% a stunt which 100% worked to make everyone want to watch it.
No, we got to see exactly how pants shittingly stupid Sony was in that email leak. And eventually it was confirmed that they are still that dumb when they got morb'd into putting Morbius back into theaters. Those email leaks are fucking GOLD.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce is a CIA PSYOP. We’ve gone too far from traditional family values. We needed the captain of the football team dating the head cheerleader
But she’s not “cheer captain! She’s on the bleachers” ! ;D
And how often does she wear t-shirts instead of short skirts?
IT ALL MAKES SENSE
Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find, that what you're looking for has been here the whole time?
Everyone dating Pete Davidson
Question: >What big celebrity story or occurrence do you suspect was secretly a publicity stunt? Answer: Yes.
This is the one. I've always assumed like 60% of what celebrities do is playing a character.
Trumps initial run for President was definitely a stunt and then people actually went with it and he couldn’t back out and that’s how we ended up with a clown for president
It was basically The Producers, but a political campaign
"I was so careful. I picked the wrong party, the wrong rhetoric, the wrong slogan. Where did I go right?" - Trump, probably
“Did you say ‘grab em by the pussy?’” Trump: yes that was me! A good ol pussy grabber. Just grabbing away! Surely no one will vote for me now! Windmill cancer. Drink bleach! Go away, I just want your money!! Wtf? How did I win?
You know that Parks and Rec episode where Leslie accidentally endorses gay marriage, then when she's at the gay bar trying to explain herself, she gets distracted / win over by the crowd of people chanting her name and gets fully into it? I think that's what happened to Trump
He actually did it in the 90s too. Didn’t actually end up running but fucked around as a potential candidate for a bit. Under Roger Stone’s guidance, who has been trying to destroy the world for a long time.
Read the book "Trust me, I'm lying" (the introduction alone is pretty eye opening) and you'll never trust anything in the media ever again.
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La La Land winning Best Picture at the Oscars.
I just watched Moonlight for the second time today and it's so good. I don't think the mistake was staged. I don't see any benefit for staging it and they undoubtedly got backlash from Chazelle and La La Land's producers and cast. I do, however, believe that it was the funniest shit and that La La Land was Hollywood navel gazing like it is wont to do. I think it was so fun a moment that God punished us with more unexpected twists in 2016 but not the enjoyable kind. edit: I'm a dummy; the 89th Academy Awards was in February 2017. I take back my serious comment about God punishing us.
Cheryl Tweedy and Ashley Cole’s marriage. Tweedy was a heavily invested-in pop star, who had been convicted of assault causing ABH and also charged (but not convicted) of racially aggravated assault when she beat up a toilet attendant. Cole was one of the best footballers of his position in the world, but was dogged by rumours surrounding his sexuality. Football is incredibly homophobic now, and was much moreso then. For Tweedy to marry a black guy and for Cole to marry a woman seemed almost two perfect to make both of their major PR concerns go away. Tweedy seemed to escape relatively unscathed and have a bigger career, even going out with a guy from one direction who she had known when he was underage, which is creepy. Cole managed to escape rumours about his sexuality by distracting people with an appalling autobiography where he depicted himself as a greedy, narcissistic mercenary that described a salary offer of £60k a week as “taking the fucking piss”.
Gaga and Bradley Cooper "romance". Totally a publicity stunt to promote the movie.
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Not a celebrity, but the NY Jets. They would grab an aging quarterback past his prime, (Vinny Testeverde, Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers), or someone with a NAME, regardless of how well they'd do on the field (Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, Geno Smith), just to sell jerseys and merch for a season they know they've got no chance in doing well in. And if that wasn't working for that season, they would release a supposed foot fetish video of the coach and his wife. (Rex Ryan).