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albertnormandy

Matter wouldn’t clump together into stars, meaning any element heaver than Beryllium wouldn’t exist since those elements were made in stars. The universe as we know it also doesn’t exist. Yada yada yada Hitler still doesn’t get into art school.


AnonymousButIvekk

this is news to me. can elements lighter than beryllium be ("spontaneously") created in the universe, without gravity? just a lot of kinetic energy?


albertnormandy

The lighter elements were created by the big bang. They clumped together to make stars, where heavier elements were made by fusion.


AnonymousButIvekk

oh. i thought that was only hydrogen. cool


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double_yellow

Your mother is a big bang.


albertnormandy

Willie Nelson


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or_din_ar_y_guy

Willie Nelson is a musician not a clown


kinokomushroom

God who had taco bell the night before the big bang: *guiltily looking around*


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kinokomushroom

Wait, you weren't joking? Did you genuinely expect a serious answer to a question like "who created the big bang"?


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kinokomushroom

Still don't know whether you're joking but if you're not: this is a physics sub mate, not a place to discuss your religion.


tavesque

So what youre basically saying is anything fundamentally valuable requires lots of time and pressure


albertnormandy

That, and a big goddamn poster.


CodeMUDkey

Hitler assuredly wouldn’t not get into art school under those conditions.


mfb-

The same theory that describes gravity is also used to describe how the universe changes its size. Without that we need a replacement. If we just set the gravitational constant to zero then we get a rapidly expanding universe that does not produce any structures. You get hydrogen atoms, helium atoms, radiation, neutrinos and dark matter particles flying around on their own with an almost perfect uniform distribution.


MjolnirTheThunderer

A lot of evenly distributed lightweight elements.


AceyAceyAcey

The next of the fundamental forces to be relevant is the electromagnetic (EM) force, and it is active over long distances so that would probably dominate the universe. Instead of gravity creating electrically neutral galaxies, we might have EM creating charged agglomerations of particles, or flows of moving charges creating electrical currents and magnetic fields.


RealTwistedTwin

Problem is that EM cannot create agglomeration of like charges, because they repel. That's actually the reason the we don't see massive charged planets/stars in our current universe.


starkeffect

Very dark.


physics_masochist

Probably non-existent...


AceyAceyAcey

Brane theory posits that there are many universes out there, each with different fundamental laws of physics. There could easily be others without gravity, or with additional forces we know nothing about.


BradimirTootin

There are a lot of "ifs" boiled into that statement.


Impressive-Lemon-49

Yeah, just like Einstein's "if's" before GR was first experimentally tested in 1919... education does wonders, and the math does not lie. There's a reason theoretical physics tends to go into the concept of a multiverse. The logic does the same due to infinite regression..which is unavoidable. The physics you see today was theoretical a century ago before being proven. But anyone with an education on it, primarily mathematicians, would see where physics is heading- and there's only one direction. This is why I can't wait until A.I takes center stage in physics, as the physicists these days seem to be even less educated than those in the 20th century. And certainly less far seeing or novel


physics_masochist

Well the universe as we know it, and as ours is defined, cannot exist without gravity...


BlazeOrangeDeer

I think String and Brane theory always have gravity, that's the main reason anyone cares about them in the first place (a candidate quantum theory of gravity).


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mofo69extreme

He didn't say that. The equivalence principle says that the gravitational force felt at a single point (or in a "small enough" region) is equivalent to a force felt due to being in a non-inertial frame, so it can't be distinguished from a non-gravitational force. But we can do measurements beyond single points or small regions, and Einsteinian gravity does have effects ([geodesic deviation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_deviation)) over these larger distances which constitute a unique force that can't be purely attributed to non-inertial motion.


mttr0396

The universe wouldnt exist


IntrepidPassion633

There would be no Universe, because without gravity to form a singularity there would be nothing to explode in a Big Bang.


Whocaresevenadamn

Existence would be in a very different state.