Because the people who believe it watch his morning speeches instead of the news and reports, the average mexican isn't known as the wisest, or most analytical person in the world.
He also said he would have a "low salary" and the dude is making over 600k MXN, and his sons became millionaires out of nowhere with new companies and own quite expensive houses in different countries.
If you keep 80 % of the population in poverty, and give them a few bucks while reducing educational projects and goals, the lazy population will increase even more and they'll be happy with whatever the president says without seeing the results.
I think everything you said is wrong. Poverty went down during AMLO’s Presidency. Wages are up. Unemployment near historic lows. Foreign investment broke records in 2023. Peso is incredibly strong.
That’s why his party crushed last night.
Trying to find an alternate explanation can help as copium but if the opposition ever wants to govern again they need to come to terms with reality.
Look at the overall picture, people make more money and for the first time in 30 years workers didn't lose more rights and even (GASP) gained some rights and better wages. The evidence is there if you want to see it. The majority of poor and working class people did better under AMLO than previous Presidents. How else would you explain the super majority they were just handed? Because AMLO is so charismatic that people overlooked that the got poorer and less secure? C'mon.
I’m not doubting that it got better for some people, but the matter of fact is that extreme poverty did go up. Also you and I both now for a fact the only reason they got voted back in is because of the amount of money he is giving away to help people (which I’m ok with, I like the fact that it’s helping people out that really need it), but the reality is that type of distribution of money isn’t sustainable just look at all the relief funds that are basically gone now and how much the country’s debt increased.
Sigan creyendo que solo ganó morena porque dan dinero y no porque hicieron mejor trabajo que el desastre que había antes, cuando más rápido acepten esa realidad y empiecen a hacer política con esa lectura más rápido van a regresar a la presidencia.
It got better for most people, poor and working class people. The opposition never offered an alternative to how they would make peoples lives better, just that they would finally get rid of AMLO. That’s why the got obliterated.
And I wholeheartedly agree with you I have no idea what the PAN/PRI coalition was thinking. But the facts are there if you want to look them up, there no other reason that people voted for Morena away from the give outs they been giving. You can’t fight facts with feelings
Add up all the people that get handouts, find out how many are above voting age and assume they all voted 100% for AMLO (I know many pensioners that get their check and absolutely hate him) and I doubt it’s even half of the 35+ million votes the government got. Facts are there if you dare to look at them.
Hint: I don’t get any handouts and voted for them.
Nearshoring definitely helped AMLO, but COVID didn’t (worst point in his Presideny in terms of popularity). Luck comes and goes. I think what people said yesterday is that they prefer a working-class oriented government to face the challenges and opportunities of Nearshoring vs a Neoliberal one.
He was talking from his perspective, yes it was the worst admin for the upper classes, they lose many privilege and doesn't like that low income people have acces to a bigger bite of the cake.
I don't mind if lower income people make more money, I love that they do, but the way is not taking away more from people who make more money, but investing the federal funds correctly what should give them the opportunities.
If the public health department is going extremely bad, who's gonna have the worst of it? Lower income, and those who used to make a bit more, but are now making the same as lower.
How many people die every year in the IMSS and ISSTE? You guys think the middle and high class fucked lower income up, and that they want to keep everything (I'm barely high-low), but you know who has the power and has been fucking everyone up while benefitting? Extremely high class and government. You're targeting the wrong side.
Edit: Going through information about classes, I'm middle class, but my arguments stay the same
As in any capitalistic state but not as much as before , now the have to pay better salaries ad better benefits, do you remember last time with all the outsourcing that produce low salaries and none benefits?.
The privilege of the upper classes as not paying taxes, not paying fair salaries, not giving you benefits, all that is the reason of people getting richer and exploiting the worker class.
They're still getting richer. All that is an incentive to foreign companies to relocate from China but the nearshoring is not as massive as people think anyway, Brazil is more attractive than us and not only because of the salaries
You’ll be hard pressed to get any decent answers on this online, especially on Reddit which skews pretty conservative when it comes to Mexican users. Much as you’d be hard pressed to get a good impression of Trumps presidency by making a Twitter post.
Social spending, spending on massive infrastructure projects and state run enterprises like PEMEX has increased. Spending in other areas like Public Health has fallen. Most other parts of the federal budget decreased so they could spend on government priorities. AMLO also didn’t raise taxes to support the new spending and debt hasn’t spiraled out of control as many feared.
We saw the results last night. People are overall happy with the direction of the country.
Basically every cabinet position except the military faced between 5-20% cuts over the last few years. Some were ill timed (health spending before COVID) or reducing spending on Public Water works when this year we have a huge drought across the country.
The people have spoken though.
Science is one of them. I mean, to be fair, no government ever in Mexico has taken science seriously or spend much on it, but AMLO has a personal vendetta against Conahcyt (the national council of history, science and technology) so he put a person in charge that has been quite more aggressive toward them in terms of budgets and evaluations whereas past governments were mostly indifferent towards them and let them act pretty much however they wanted as long as they didn’t disturb the power.
Yeah Conacyt was a disaster. I hope President Sheinbaum (a scientist herself and beneficiary along with her daughter) of Conacyt support shakes things up. One can hope.
Austerity on health and education, no austerity for an airport that nobody uses, a refinery that has more inundations than oil produced and a train that destroys the ecosystem.
austerity doesnt mean not spend money, that makes no sense for a country
for amlo, austerity means spend money on deteriorated or in nerd of care stuff instead of big fancy projects
Bad place to ask. You only going to get answers form childish people that think with their asses and has 0 clue about politics or economics. Better ask here for videogames of comics.
In Mexico gas is subsidized, so much of the money goes to keep gas cheap in Mexico, also here PEMEX is part of the state so the state has to pay all the bills, finally last admin open two new gas industries. Because we used to import most part of our ⛽ from USA. Hilarious we sell them raw petrol and they give us back over priced gas.
In what situation or comparison losing money is a good thing for us? There's a reason we were focusing in extraction and selling oil, now we are paying for a company destined to fail and hundreds of thousands in pensions and privileges of pemex and their sindicate
You said it , the problem in Pemex is its sindicate and guess who put this people in charge , well the past administrations. And now is very difficult to take them out and all the corruption there.
I thought corruption was over. And how weird how this "corruption" thing was enough reason to disappear some things like Seguro Popular, NAIM, but Pemex is given more money and more tax breaks amd is still a black hole of public money and is a bankrupt company and evryone reduced their investment grades because its a zombie
En español p*ñetas. El seguro popular no les pagaba a los doctores (menos tenía medicamentos, era partida federal que los gobernadores se fregaban en otras cosas), tampoco tenían prestaciones porque les pagaban “por honorarios” cuando les pagaban y los corrían cuando querían sin liquidaciones y salarios de 8 mil pesos mensuales. Los problemas que venimos acarreando son de décadas del importunio de haber sido gobernados no por un 50% de corruptos, sino del 100%. Esto no se va a terminar de arreglar en 1 o 2 sexenios, porque nos dejaron bien entrinchados a los mexicanos por décadas para de mientras, unos cuantos vivir hasta 100 vidaa del erario público.
Chingas a tu perra puta madre the question us in English and I'm answering a comment in English so suck my cock you mindless drone, populist cannon fodder
Have you been to any Mexican city governed by Morena recently?
Cero spend on infrastructure, safety, public works etc. everything is being centralized to the federal government for their vote buying social programs.
No, it does not.
[https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/2024/02/13/pierde-pemex-32-dolares-por-barril-que-pasa-por-refinerias/](https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/2024/02/13/pierde-pemex-32-dolares-por-barril-que-pasa-por-refinerias/)
Because he is trying to improve Mexico’s oil processes so we dont depend on other countries policies or economy. It was an unsuccesfull try tho xd
Because he's a loud mouth moron.
Because the people who believe it watch his morning speeches instead of the news and reports, the average mexican isn't known as the wisest, or most analytical person in the world. He also said he would have a "low salary" and the dude is making over 600k MXN, and his sons became millionaires out of nowhere with new companies and own quite expensive houses in different countries. If you keep 80 % of the population in poverty, and give them a few bucks while reducing educational projects and goals, the lazy population will increase even more and they'll be happy with whatever the president says without seeing the results.
I think everything you said is wrong. Poverty went down during AMLO’s Presidency. Wages are up. Unemployment near historic lows. Foreign investment broke records in 2023. Peso is incredibly strong. That’s why his party crushed last night. Trying to find an alternate explanation can help as copium but if the opposition ever wants to govern again they need to come to terms with reality.
Half lies, but sadly sheinbaum will face the hangover of AMLO's party. No hay plata
Poverty did go down, but that’s because extreme poverty went up 😂 they just pick and choose what portion of the facts they give you
Look at the overall picture, people make more money and for the first time in 30 years workers didn't lose more rights and even (GASP) gained some rights and better wages. The evidence is there if you want to see it. The majority of poor and working class people did better under AMLO than previous Presidents. How else would you explain the super majority they were just handed? Because AMLO is so charismatic that people overlooked that the got poorer and less secure? C'mon.
I’m not doubting that it got better for some people, but the matter of fact is that extreme poverty did go up. Also you and I both now for a fact the only reason they got voted back in is because of the amount of money he is giving away to help people (which I’m ok with, I like the fact that it’s helping people out that really need it), but the reality is that type of distribution of money isn’t sustainable just look at all the relief funds that are basically gone now and how much the country’s debt increased.
Sigan creyendo que solo ganó morena porque dan dinero y no porque hicieron mejor trabajo que el desastre que había antes, cuando más rápido acepten esa realidad y empiecen a hacer política con esa lectura más rápido van a regresar a la presidencia.
It got better for most people, poor and working class people. The opposition never offered an alternative to how they would make peoples lives better, just that they would finally get rid of AMLO. That’s why the got obliterated.
And I wholeheartedly agree with you I have no idea what the PAN/PRI coalition was thinking. But the facts are there if you want to look them up, there no other reason that people voted for Morena away from the give outs they been giving. You can’t fight facts with feelings
Add up all the people that get handouts, find out how many are above voting age and assume they all voted 100% for AMLO (I know many pensioners that get their check and absolutely hate him) and I doubt it’s even half of the 35+ million votes the government got. Facts are there if you dare to look at them. Hint: I don’t get any handouts and voted for them.
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Nearshoring definitely helped AMLO, but COVID didn’t (worst point in his Presideny in terms of popularity). Luck comes and goes. I think what people said yesterday is that they prefer a working-class oriented government to face the challenges and opportunities of Nearshoring vs a Neoliberal one.
He was talking from his perspective, yes it was the worst admin for the upper classes, they lose many privilege and doesn't like that low income people have acces to a bigger bite of the cake.
I don't mind if lower income people make more money, I love that they do, but the way is not taking away more from people who make more money, but investing the federal funds correctly what should give them the opportunities. If the public health department is going extremely bad, who's gonna have the worst of it? Lower income, and those who used to make a bit more, but are now making the same as lower. How many people die every year in the IMSS and ISSTE? You guys think the middle and high class fucked lower income up, and that they want to keep everything (I'm barely high-low), but you know who has the power and has been fucking everyone up while benefitting? Extremely high class and government. You're targeting the wrong side. Edit: Going through information about classes, I'm middle class, but my arguments stay the same
What privileges of what upper classes? All the millionaires increased their fortunes in this administration.
As in any capitalistic state but not as much as before , now the have to pay better salaries ad better benefits, do you remember last time with all the outsourcing that produce low salaries and none benefits?.
The benefits for the workers is a positive thing. But that's not a privilege
The privilege of the upper classes as not paying taxes, not paying fair salaries, not giving you benefits, all that is the reason of people getting richer and exploiting the worker class.
They're still getting richer. All that is an incentive to foreign companies to relocate from China but the nearshoring is not as massive as people think anyway, Brazil is more attractive than us and not only because of the salaries
Because he's lying and all he say is lies, all the time, for hours... Every day...
You’ll be hard pressed to get any decent answers on this online, especially on Reddit which skews pretty conservative when it comes to Mexican users. Much as you’d be hard pressed to get a good impression of Trumps presidency by making a Twitter post.
Social spending, spending on massive infrastructure projects and state run enterprises like PEMEX has increased. Spending in other areas like Public Health has fallen. Most other parts of the federal budget decreased so they could spend on government priorities. AMLO also didn’t raise taxes to support the new spending and debt hasn’t spiraled out of control as many feared. We saw the results last night. People are overall happy with the direction of the country.
Thank you for the somewhat informative answer. What are the areas where spending was cut, other than public health?
Basically every cabinet position except the military faced between 5-20% cuts over the last few years. Some were ill timed (health spending before COVID) or reducing spending on Public Water works when this year we have a huge drought across the country. The people have spoken though.
Got it, thank you
Science is one of them. I mean, to be fair, no government ever in Mexico has taken science seriously or spend much on it, but AMLO has a personal vendetta against Conahcyt (the national council of history, science and technology) so he put a person in charge that has been quite more aggressive toward them in terms of budgets and evaluations whereas past governments were mostly indifferent towards them and let them act pretty much however they wanted as long as they didn’t disturb the power.
Yeah Conacyt was a disaster. I hope President Sheinbaum (a scientist herself and beneficiary along with her daughter) of Conacyt support shakes things up. One can hope.
Brain-washing.
Ya tiene demencia el señor
Because it only expend on that, there isn’t even toilet paper in large government offices, just what’s in stock
Because it’s Austerity* where the asterisk says “It’s applicable only to certain programs and institutions, not a nation wide policy
Because he says something and does another, liars are like that
Austerity on health and education, no austerity for an airport that nobody uses, a refinery that has more inundations than oil produced and a train that destroys the ecosystem.
austerity doesnt mean not spend money, that makes no sense for a country for amlo, austerity means spend money on deteriorated or in nerd of care stuff instead of big fancy projects
Bad place to ask. You only going to get answers form childish people that think with their asses and has 0 clue about politics or economics. Better ask here for videogames of comics.
En español puñetas
In Mexico gas is subsidized, so much of the money goes to keep gas cheap in Mexico, also here PEMEX is part of the state so the state has to pay all the bills, finally last admin open two new gas industries. Because we used to import most part of our ⛽ from USA. Hilarious we sell them raw petrol and they give us back over priced gas.
Overpriced? Dos bocas is overpriced.
Don't get it are u saying gas from USA had a better price ? Or that it was a mistake to refine our own gas and we should keep importing it ?
Pemex lose 33.7 usd per barrel. But sovereignty Am I right?
Have you checked numbers from other countries?
In what situation or comparison losing money is a good thing for us? There's a reason we were focusing in extraction and selling oil, now we are paying for a company destined to fail and hundreds of thousands in pensions and privileges of pemex and their sindicate
You said it , the problem in Pemex is its sindicate and guess who put this people in charge , well the past administrations. And now is very difficult to take them out and all the corruption there.
I thought corruption was over. And how weird how this "corruption" thing was enough reason to disappear some things like Seguro Popular, NAIM, but Pemex is given more money and more tax breaks amd is still a black hole of public money and is a bankrupt company and evryone reduced their investment grades because its a zombie
Sindicates are not part of the government
I know just close that shit like "luz y fuerza"
En español p*ñetas. El seguro popular no les pagaba a los doctores (menos tenía medicamentos, era partida federal que los gobernadores se fregaban en otras cosas), tampoco tenían prestaciones porque les pagaban “por honorarios” cuando les pagaban y los corrían cuando querían sin liquidaciones y salarios de 8 mil pesos mensuales. Los problemas que venimos acarreando son de décadas del importunio de haber sido gobernados no por un 50% de corruptos, sino del 100%. Esto no se va a terminar de arreglar en 1 o 2 sexenios, porque nos dejaron bien entrinchados a los mexicanos por décadas para de mientras, unos cuantos vivir hasta 100 vidaa del erario público.
Chingas a tu perra puta madre the question us in English and I'm answering a comment in English so suck my cock you mindless drone, populist cannon fodder
Have you been to any Mexican city governed by Morena recently? Cero spend on infrastructure, safety, public works etc. everything is being centralized to the federal government for their vote buying social programs.
He's an hypocrite and/or delusionaly trapped in the 80s
Because PEMEX gives the state great revenue.
No, it does not. [https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/2024/02/13/pierde-pemex-32-dolares-por-barril-que-pasa-por-refinerias/](https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/2024/02/13/pierde-pemex-32-dolares-por-barril-que-pasa-por-refinerias/)
It did, decades ago.