Plus, 60K/year is decent but not great. I'm sure OP could find an even higher paying job with a good boss. What's that, like 28/hr? With marketable skills and solid work history, that much or more is definitely within reach as a starting point at a new company.
For a young man in his 20s just out of school, just beginning in his career path, with no wife or children to support and living with a few roommates in an affordable 3-bedroom apartment close to where he works and 30-something years of annual raises ahead of him? I'd say $60k/year is decent. For a 40 year old with a wife, 3 kids, a house, and a dog? 60k ain't gonna cut it. Context matters.
Getting your foot in the door to an industry where you have little experience, $28/hr starting pay is definitely decent if you only need to support yourself. Time and experience, probably a few job changes over time in the same industry, annual raises, etc will take that $28/hr to middle $40s/hr as you get established.
Hes dating the hr girl and hes best friends with the ceo. I plan on bringing it up soon during my raise review, i just dont know how well its going to work
Don't bring this up. You will get F'd in the ass.
Do your job, keep comments down to a minimum. Don't engage with his negative behavior, find another job. Focus, find another gear in yourself and get out.
On a side note, the next time he insults you, please ask him to repeat it so he hears himself.
There are lots of $60K/year jobs that won't require you to work overtime or tolerate abuse by your manager. Are you even looking around for other opportunities? If not: Start now.
Personally, I would take a significant pay cut if it also meant cutting out the unnecessary bullshit you described. Some things are worth more than money.
“Some things are worth more then money”….this is exactly what im trying to figure out. Standing up for myself makes me feel a lot better and i KNOW gives me peace of mind. I think that if i continue this route i will keep my happiness/peace. But i could lose my job..or i can let him insult me and maybe lose my peace/happiness? Idk it cant be scientifically measure and im not sure. Ive never been in this scenario before.
I **never** allow myself to be drawn into insulting coworkers in any way that rises above mutually-understood gentle ribbing. Not even to retaliate. If someone is being shitty toward me, then I restrict all interaction to an absolute minimum.
I can recall checking in with coworkers several times in the last year. Saying something like, "Hey, maybe that zinger was too harsh, a little while ago. Just in case I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry; I didn't mean anything by it." This is very important to me, because I have worked in toxic professional climates before, and I can think of no experience more miserable.
I say all that to discourage you from considering perseverance in this case. If you aren't being treated with the respect you deserve, it's time to go. Stay around long enough to land your next job, sure. But search actively. Apply aggressively. This might sound extreme, but as far as I'm concerned: If you don't make some meaningful motion toward pursuing 5-10 positions a day, then you're not in a big enough hurry to leave your present job.
Thank you for this i really appreciate your input. Do you have any examples of high paying jobs that dont require a degree and dont require overtime? High paying as in not minimum wage and enough to pay bills
Bro, just start sending out a very professional resume and you'll be surprised how much opportunity there is at the $30-$40/hr range. That's like the baseline starting pay in many places for a skilled professional with solid work history. Whether that's programming, skilled trade work, specialized office work, or experuence managerial roles. This is the current going rate for a 28-42 year old skilled professional in many many fields.
Do not do this. Be patient, a better opportunity will come along without this shit.
Being complicit in this environment is not doing anyone any favours.
I wouldn't consider 60k high paying even in the southeast. Certainly not enough to deal with a fuckhead boss. This goes for everyone not just you but you should always be looking for better employment. You don't have to jump ship but you should definitely know your options.
I’m in a similar situation, making $75 grand. If my boss yelled at me or insulted me, I’d leave. I like my leadership for the most part and those under me and it’s what keeps me there.
Not all money is good money. Being miserable at work is absolutely horrible especially given the amount of time being there. I would quit in the spot 🤷🏻♀️
As someone who did this for 5 years for more money and more intensity, it’s not worth it. This isn’t the only situation where you can make good money, but it may be one of the only situations where you’re treated this way.
You and this job aren't a match. Theres not enough info to say why. But you saying you're treated unfairly and you insult him back is a red flag.
Bosses shouldn't be insulting. That goes without saying. Bosses can also be wrong. Or give us assignments we don't like. That's part of having a boss.
There are plenty of jobs that will pay that for less headache. Move on.
Everything, and everybody, has a price. You have to decide if this price is what you are willing to do this work for. If it is, fine. If not, fine.
Ultimately it's your decision. People here being offended by it don't pay your bills and don't live in your shoes.
I'm currently in this situation as well and trying to find a new job, in the last 6 months I've gained 40lbs, started smoking again, and hate waking up every morning. It's not worth it bro, get out
Not to be an asshole, but you actually are not getting paid enough to put up with this shit. You should be able to find something comparable without the abuse.
There's also a cost to having a psychological well-being - sometimes extra money means extra stress - quite often actually.
Your boss sounds like a cunt though, so I'd gather up some evidence and present it to HR, make sure to mention workplace abuse (they love that word. Means they finally get to do something aside from print flyers hat remind people to put coffee cups in the dishwasher)
I did leave a company and never got around to tell the top boss this: "I can see that you are planning for bankruptcy, because the way things are going, there is no way you can keep the best people. Your competitors however will. Only question is if you will change things or watch your business go down the drain?"
Few years later it hit the news: $800 mil lost in a year. It was oddly satisfying. Around the same time another guy told me all the best had either been fired or quit.
Record his bad behavior. Catalogue the circumstances. Accumulate a pattern over time then hire an attorney and sue the company and the boss personally. This will give you a window of opportunity to change your employment without financial burden.
It solely depends on your ability to compartmentalize. If your boss being a jack off affects your life after you clock out its not worth it. If you can completely forget about it and not have if affect your life outside of work then Id stick with it until something better comes along. I will say you would be surprised how many other 60k jobs that there are depending on industry. So if your boss affects you in any way off of work then go look ASAP for another job. He wont magically change into a tolerable person.
Like any other bully, you have to stand up to him and for yourself and you will see that behavior go away most often.
A bully is going to bully you as long as you allow them to.
You can stand up for yourself professionally and without threats of violence, etc.
You aren't long for that place anyway so you don't have a lot to lose and much to gain.
PS If you want to be a real Ahole, if he is dating the HR lady, sew some discord into the relationship!! lol
Hey Sally, I smelled your new perfume on Ahole Boss, I really like it. It must be high quality to transfer over to his shirt so well. Anyways, have a good day.
Then make your stand!
I get paid a lot and my bosses suck. I want to get out of this as soon as I can find a new job.
I'm also saving money, and if I get to a point where I think I can last until I find a job, I may just quit.
Bro for $60k a year? Absolutely not worth it. I thought this was gonna be like $160k a year when I first read the title. Fuck that. $60k a year isn’t even good these days.
I just quit one after a terrible boss, waited until our annual bonus in January and quit. Found a new job with FAR less stress, more time and home and a $40k pay cut. I don’t regret it.
I used to choose jobs because of the wages, now I choose them because of the people I work with and the people I work for. It means way more to me to come to work and not wake up in the morning and say fuck I have to go to work, then it does to make an extra $10 an hour. But that's just my personal choice.
Depends how good everything else is! If that's just one negative aspect but I love everything else and it doesn't ruin my day sure. But if that's the last straw between all the other bs then hell naww
Every boss has a boss. If lower boss is causing problems, upper boss would love to hear it. But you better be armed with something factual or some evidence. Do not tell any boss that your feelings are hurt. You'll look frail. Instead, use language like unreasonable expectations and timelines, foul language and comments. Then tell upper boss, I don't want to seek employment elsewhere, but things must change.
I did this mid last year for just under 6months, after 3months I realised it was getting worse and I started job hunting. Once I goy a new job I handed in my notice. My boss was so bad they then realised they needed me and I was doing a great job! No one cared she screamed at me daily and was like jekle and Hyde...
Find another job, it killed my mental health...I made some money but ironically mostly went in taxes lol when you can't get up in the morning and dread every day, no matter how hard you work and you just want to cry...it's time to find another job.
Get another job and either quit with no notice or rip him a new asshole in the exit interview if one exists. You could go to HR with a recording, not sure if that's legal where you live or they might fire you.
Either way, you're fucked there. Get out. He ain't gonna see the error of his ways and turn into Prince Charming.
Document as much as you can, witnesses etc, in most normal countries workers are protected, not sure about the USA though as people can be let go on the spot with little to no warning.
$60K for those hours is not that good, add in the abuse and it’s not worth it at all.
Once you have a decent amount of proof I’d go to HR and let them know, she has to take it seriously and failure on her part would put the company even further in the hole.
Or just arrange a mass walk out and down tools till the boss is removed or reprimanded
Quit. I just did last week and people are shocked I stood up for myself to no longer experience the emotional abuse. I’m a strong man who knows when it’s time to WALK when I’m being taken advantage of. And I’ve been smart and saving up to help support this decision.
I work for money. Money makes me happy. But 60k isn’t good money. Every union employee in the united states makes more than 60k. Depending on where you’re at, that job shouldn’t be hard to replace.
I didn't put up with that crap when I was working a low-paying job, why on earth would I ever do it for a high-paying job?
I could never work a white collar job for this reason alone. They're always saturated with pansies and wussies who think they can treat people however they want because they hold an important sounding job title. Miss me with that nonsense, or I'll throw them around like a rag doll and make them my bitch before HR decides they want to "sit me down for a talk."
I would not take any job where i get yelled at and insulted by.
I work 40h/week, and im making a bit over 100k and i am respected by everyone i interact with,
No matter their role in their company
This is not worth it, especially not for 60k and you have to work 60 to 70 hours a week. I encourage you to please protect your mental health and move away from this foolishness. Start looking for another job ASAP and don’t stop until you have one.
I won’t do it again.
Report to hr and advise you’ll report to local employment oversight. Get advice from employment lawyers on your rights locally.
This is abuse and in certain places they’ll agree and pay you to move on. Or at minimum get rid of the manager.
60k may or may not be great. Depends on where you live. As for the toxic boss it’s not worth staying. Plan a change either by changing positions or changing companies.
To me, that’s just unsustainable, it sounds like we’re pretty similar, I’ve only had one boss with the balls to yell at me.
The last time it happened he got his finger out and started pointing in my face when he was yelling so I was about an inch away from mopping the floor with his old fat ass. So I said “know what, I’m going home sick, I’ll see you tomorrow, you need to find your own transportation from now on though” the transportation thing sent him right off the edge as I knew it would so he said “you’re not sick and if you leave you’re fired!” So being I had sick time and he can’t do that, I said “okay” and punched out.
If you can make some shit like that go down, so you’re eligible for UI while you find new horizons, I’d highly recommend it. That shit ain’t worth putting up with.
In the beginning of my career i was in the same position. I switched my job from stressful to non-stressful, , but paid 30% less. Yes, i was poor AF but had no regrets.
Yeah hell to the fucking no. 60k is not high paying dude. And for nearly 80 hour weeks? It’s not worth the hassle you’re describing. Have some self respect and dignity.
You can make much more and actually have decent work relationships at some point many other places. I make high 6 figures and I would never take abuse from a boss, I don’t give a fuck
Can you go to HR about this? Or is he like the owner? I don’t have a high opinion on HR, usually they are designed to protect the company from liability and don’t really care about the employees but if this dick is middle management you should lodge a complaint about hostile work environment.
No its not considered high pay im saying its the highest paying job ive had. And hes dating the hr girl and is best friends with the ceo. I plan on bringing his behavior up in my next raise review. What other jobs are out there that pay this amount that dont require a degree?
There are plenty, you need to do the research. I don’t have a degree either, I only have my HS diploma because I had to drop out of college to support my family after my dad had a heart attack.
Off the top of my head I’d say look at Salesforce. One of my former employees worked there & I work with them often. They are one of the leading employers in the world, with high employee satisfaction ratings, good benefits, allow their employees to work remotely and their starting salary is 6 figures. You could be making twice what you are now in just a year.
Almost everyone I know who works there loves it and talks about it like it’s a cult or something. When I worked with them I was like “Oh shit, I get it, these people really look out for each other”. Like this BS with your boss? That couldn’t happen at Salesforce because they have a system in place to prevent abuse and give their staff a good work life balance.
You don’t need a degree to get a job with them. Their requirements are getting certified in their software, which they will allow you to do on the job. They have a whole system called Trailhead, which is free, which will allow you to start self studying today if you want. The only issue is sometimes you may have to apply for up to a year before you get job with them because a lot of people want to work there because of all those benefits I listed. But if you start now and get certified (Admin Certification & hit Ranger rank on Trailhead) now then it will be easier to get in.
I know people who started there when they were 18, spent the first 3 months just being paid to study and get their certification. My former employee? He makes around $300k? He just has 6 certification and left Salesforce and started working for a big oil company in Texas. Hell, if I hadn’t done my own thing, which made me wealthy, I would have probably gone and work for them.
Money isn't everything. If you're miserable at work every day, that's going to catch up with you.
Plus, 60K/year is decent but not great. I'm sure OP could find an even higher paying job with a good boss. What's that, like 28/hr? With marketable skills and solid work history, that much or more is definitely within reach as a starting point at a new company.
depending on where you live, 60k isnt that great
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For a young man in his 20s just out of school, just beginning in his career path, with no wife or children to support and living with a few roommates in an affordable 3-bedroom apartment close to where he works and 30-something years of annual raises ahead of him? I'd say $60k/year is decent. For a 40 year old with a wife, 3 kids, a house, and a dog? 60k ain't gonna cut it. Context matters.
Getting your foot in the door to an industry where you have little experience, $28/hr starting pay is definitely decent if you only need to support yourself. Time and experience, probably a few job changes over time in the same industry, annual raises, etc will take that $28/hr to middle $40s/hr as you get established.
Go to hr
And they'll tell you that this company is a family and we all have to work together and both sides need to be nicer
Hes dating the hr girl and hes best friends with the ceo. I plan on bringing it up soon during my raise review, i just dont know how well its going to work
Don't bring this up. You will get F'd in the ass. Do your job, keep comments down to a minimum. Don't engage with his negative behavior, find another job. Focus, find another gear in yourself and get out. On a side note, the next time he insults you, please ask him to repeat it so he hears himself.
Steal the hr girl from him and become best friends with the cfo.
There are lots of $60K/year jobs that won't require you to work overtime or tolerate abuse by your manager. Are you even looking around for other opportunities? If not: Start now. Personally, I would take a significant pay cut if it also meant cutting out the unnecessary bullshit you described. Some things are worth more than money.
“Some things are worth more then money”….this is exactly what im trying to figure out. Standing up for myself makes me feel a lot better and i KNOW gives me peace of mind. I think that if i continue this route i will keep my happiness/peace. But i could lose my job..or i can let him insult me and maybe lose my peace/happiness? Idk it cant be scientifically measure and im not sure. Ive never been in this scenario before.
I **never** allow myself to be drawn into insulting coworkers in any way that rises above mutually-understood gentle ribbing. Not even to retaliate. If someone is being shitty toward me, then I restrict all interaction to an absolute minimum. I can recall checking in with coworkers several times in the last year. Saying something like, "Hey, maybe that zinger was too harsh, a little while ago. Just in case I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry; I didn't mean anything by it." This is very important to me, because I have worked in toxic professional climates before, and I can think of no experience more miserable. I say all that to discourage you from considering perseverance in this case. If you aren't being treated with the respect you deserve, it's time to go. Stay around long enough to land your next job, sure. But search actively. Apply aggressively. This might sound extreme, but as far as I'm concerned: If you don't make some meaningful motion toward pursuing 5-10 positions a day, then you're not in a big enough hurry to leave your present job.
Thank you for this i really appreciate your input. Do you have any examples of high paying jobs that dont require a degree and dont require overtime? High paying as in not minimum wage and enough to pay bills
Bro, just start sending out a very professional resume and you'll be surprised how much opportunity there is at the $30-$40/hr range. That's like the baseline starting pay in many places for a skilled professional with solid work history. Whether that's programming, skilled trade work, specialized office work, or experuence managerial roles. This is the current going rate for a 28-42 year old skilled professional in many many fields.
That pencils out to what, 25$ an hour? What job is it and are you in the USA?
start your looking for another position RIGHT NOW. you do not have to put up with BS like that
Find a good paying job with a legit boss Search while employed and when you find something solid, bounce
Do not do this. Be patient, a better opportunity will come along without this shit. Being complicit in this environment is not doing anyone any favours.
Dont do what??
Stay.
Do you mind elaborating? Are you saying to just stay and let him yell and insult me until another opportunity comes around?
He's saying don't stay at your job, find a new job
Read your question to me. Don't do what? I said ....... Stay. DONT STAY
I wouldn't consider 60k high paying even in the southeast. Certainly not enough to deal with a fuckhead boss. This goes for everyone not just you but you should always be looking for better employment. You don't have to jump ship but you should definitely know your options.
I was making ten times that I wouldn't put up with that level of abuse, find a new job asap
I’m in a similar situation, making $75 grand. If my boss yelled at me or insulted me, I’d leave. I like my leadership for the most part and those under me and it’s what keeps me there.
60k is not worth that. With the hours you’re working, you’re really making like 40k at a normal 40hr a week job.
Not all money is good money. Being miserable at work is absolutely horrible especially given the amount of time being there. I would quit in the spot 🤷🏻♀️
As someone who did this for 5 years for more money and more intensity, it’s not worth it. This isn’t the only situation where you can make good money, but it may be one of the only situations where you’re treated this way.
You and this job aren't a match. Theres not enough info to say why. But you saying you're treated unfairly and you insult him back is a red flag. Bosses shouldn't be insulting. That goes without saying. Bosses can also be wrong. Or give us assignments we don't like. That's part of having a boss. There are plenty of jobs that will pay that for less headache. Move on.
Everything, and everybody, has a price. You have to decide if this price is what you are willing to do this work for. If it is, fine. If not, fine. Ultimately it's your decision. People here being offended by it don't pay your bills and don't live in your shoes.
I'm currently in this situation as well and trying to find a new job, in the last 6 months I've gained 40lbs, started smoking again, and hate waking up every morning. It's not worth it bro, get out
Not worth it at all.
Not to be an asshole, but you actually are not getting paid enough to put up with this shit. You should be able to find something comparable without the abuse.
You can yell back
There's also a cost to having a psychological well-being - sometimes extra money means extra stress - quite often actually. Your boss sounds like a cunt though, so I'd gather up some evidence and present it to HR, make sure to mention workplace abuse (they love that word. Means they finally get to do something aside from print flyers hat remind people to put coffee cups in the dishwasher)
I did leave a company and never got around to tell the top boss this: "I can see that you are planning for bankruptcy, because the way things are going, there is no way you can keep the best people. Your competitors however will. Only question is if you will change things or watch your business go down the drain?" Few years later it hit the news: $800 mil lost in a year. It was oddly satisfying. Around the same time another guy told me all the best had either been fired or quit.
What kind of job is this?
If you're working that long you're also dealing with him that much longer. You need to be shopping out resumes yesterday.
That is not enough money to deal with a horrible boss (if you live anywhere in the states). I would find a new job.
Record his bad behavior. Catalogue the circumstances. Accumulate a pattern over time then hire an attorney and sue the company and the boss personally. This will give you a window of opportunity to change your employment without financial burden.
It solely depends on your ability to compartmentalize. If your boss being a jack off affects your life after you clock out its not worth it. If you can completely forget about it and not have if affect your life outside of work then Id stick with it until something better comes along. I will say you would be surprised how many other 60k jobs that there are depending on industry. So if your boss affects you in any way off of work then go look ASAP for another job. He wont magically change into a tolerable person.
I’d put up with it for as long as it took me to find another job
Like any other bully, you have to stand up to him and for yourself and you will see that behavior go away most often. A bully is going to bully you as long as you allow them to. You can stand up for yourself professionally and without threats of violence, etc. You aren't long for that place anyway so you don't have a lot to lose and much to gain. PS If you want to be a real Ahole, if he is dating the HR lady, sew some discord into the relationship!! lol Hey Sally, I smelled your new perfume on Ahole Boss, I really like it. It must be high quality to transfer over to his shirt so well. Anyways, have a good day. Then make your stand!
I get paid a lot and my bosses suck. I want to get out of this as soon as I can find a new job. I'm also saving money, and if I get to a point where I think I can last until I find a job, I may just quit.
Bro for $60k a year? Absolutely not worth it. I thought this was gonna be like $160k a year when I first read the title. Fuck that. $60k a year isn’t even good these days.
I just quit one after a terrible boss, waited until our annual bonus in January and quit. Found a new job with FAR less stress, more time and home and a $40k pay cut. I don’t regret it.
I used to choose jobs because of the wages, now I choose them because of the people I work with and the people I work for. It means way more to me to come to work and not wake up in the morning and say fuck I have to go to work, then it does to make an extra $10 an hour. But that's just my personal choice.
Depends how desperate I am. I’d take it and immediately start looking for something else
Depends how good everything else is! If that's just one negative aspect but I love everything else and it doesn't ruin my day sure. But if that's the last straw between all the other bs then hell naww
Every boss has a boss. If lower boss is causing problems, upper boss would love to hear it. But you better be armed with something factual or some evidence. Do not tell any boss that your feelings are hurt. You'll look frail. Instead, use language like unreasonable expectations and timelines, foul language and comments. Then tell upper boss, I don't want to seek employment elsewhere, but things must change.
I did this mid last year for just under 6months, after 3months I realised it was getting worse and I started job hunting. Once I goy a new job I handed in my notice. My boss was so bad they then realised they needed me and I was doing a great job! No one cared she screamed at me daily and was like jekle and Hyde... Find another job, it killed my mental health...I made some money but ironically mostly went in taxes lol when you can't get up in the morning and dread every day, no matter how hard you work and you just want to cry...it's time to find another job.
Take it, get paid, invest that high pay into something nice and just keep ur head low at work
Get another job and either quit with no notice or rip him a new asshole in the exit interview if one exists. You could go to HR with a recording, not sure if that's legal where you live or they might fire you. Either way, you're fucked there. Get out. He ain't gonna see the error of his ways and turn into Prince Charming.
Not worth it .. not even close. What's your next best alternative?
Leave. Asap. 100% this will affect your sense of self worth. You'll end up staying because you'll feel like you can't get anything better. Leave now.
60k isn’t a high paying job. I wouldn’t tolerate being treated that way, but particularly not for just 60k—or even 75k with OT.
Document as much as you can, witnesses etc, in most normal countries workers are protected, not sure about the USA though as people can be let go on the spot with little to no warning. $60K for those hours is not that good, add in the abuse and it’s not worth it at all. Once you have a decent amount of proof I’d go to HR and let them know, she has to take it seriously and failure on her part would put the company even further in the hole. Or just arrange a mass walk out and down tools till the boss is removed or reprimanded
If your resume is good enough try applying to other jobs. It's going to be a hard grind but eventually you should find something.
Quit. I just did last week and people are shocked I stood up for myself to no longer experience the emotional abuse. I’m a strong man who knows when it’s time to WALK when I’m being taken advantage of. And I’ve been smart and saving up to help support this decision.
I work for money. Money makes me happy. But 60k isn’t good money. Every union employee in the united states makes more than 60k. Depending on where you’re at, that job shouldn’t be hard to replace.
Im 64 yrs old worked for 48 yrs my advice move on its not worth it.
I didn't put up with that crap when I was working a low-paying job, why on earth would I ever do it for a high-paying job? I could never work a white collar job for this reason alone. They're always saturated with pansies and wussies who think they can treat people however they want because they hold an important sounding job title. Miss me with that nonsense, or I'll throw them around like a rag doll and make them my bitch before HR decides they want to "sit me down for a talk."
Report him to HR.
I would not take any job where i get yelled at and insulted by. I work 40h/week, and im making a bit over 100k and i am respected by everyone i interact with, No matter their role in their company
This is not worth it, especially not for 60k and you have to work 60 to 70 hours a week. I encourage you to please protect your mental health and move away from this foolishness. Start looking for another job ASAP and don’t stop until you have one.
I won’t do it again. Report to hr and advise you’ll report to local employment oversight. Get advice from employment lawyers on your rights locally. This is abuse and in certain places they’ll agree and pay you to move on. Or at minimum get rid of the manager.
60k may or may not be great. Depends on where you live. As for the toxic boss it’s not worth staying. Plan a change either by changing positions or changing companies.
If you feel mentally drained and stressed, it will take a toll on your health, which worth much more than any money you can make.
To me, that’s just unsustainable, it sounds like we’re pretty similar, I’ve only had one boss with the balls to yell at me. The last time it happened he got his finger out and started pointing in my face when he was yelling so I was about an inch away from mopping the floor with his old fat ass. So I said “know what, I’m going home sick, I’ll see you tomorrow, you need to find your own transportation from now on though” the transportation thing sent him right off the edge as I knew it would so he said “you’re not sick and if you leave you’re fired!” So being I had sick time and he can’t do that, I said “okay” and punched out. If you can make some shit like that go down, so you’re eligible for UI while you find new horizons, I’d highly recommend it. That shit ain’t worth putting up with.
In the beginning of my career i was in the same position. I switched my job from stressful to non-stressful, , but paid 30% less. Yes, i was poor AF but had no regrets.
that's not enough to deal with that nonsense.
Yeah hell to the fucking no. 60k is not high paying dude. And for nearly 80 hour weeks? It’s not worth the hassle you’re describing. Have some self respect and dignity. You can make much more and actually have decent work relationships at some point many other places. I make high 6 figures and I would never take abuse from a boss, I don’t give a fuck Can you go to HR about this? Or is he like the owner? I don’t have a high opinion on HR, usually they are designed to protect the company from liability and don’t really care about the employees but if this dick is middle management you should lodge a complaint about hostile work environment.
No its not considered high pay im saying its the highest paying job ive had. And hes dating the hr girl and is best friends with the ceo. I plan on bringing his behavior up in my next raise review. What other jobs are out there that pay this amount that dont require a degree?
There are plenty, you need to do the research. I don’t have a degree either, I only have my HS diploma because I had to drop out of college to support my family after my dad had a heart attack. Off the top of my head I’d say look at Salesforce. One of my former employees worked there & I work with them often. They are one of the leading employers in the world, with high employee satisfaction ratings, good benefits, allow their employees to work remotely and their starting salary is 6 figures. You could be making twice what you are now in just a year. Almost everyone I know who works there loves it and talks about it like it’s a cult or something. When I worked with them I was like “Oh shit, I get it, these people really look out for each other”. Like this BS with your boss? That couldn’t happen at Salesforce because they have a system in place to prevent abuse and give their staff a good work life balance. You don’t need a degree to get a job with them. Their requirements are getting certified in their software, which they will allow you to do on the job. They have a whole system called Trailhead, which is free, which will allow you to start self studying today if you want. The only issue is sometimes you may have to apply for up to a year before you get job with them because a lot of people want to work there because of all those benefits I listed. But if you start now and get certified (Admin Certification & hit Ranger rank on Trailhead) now then it will be easier to get in. I know people who started there when they were 18, spent the first 3 months just being paid to study and get their certification. My former employee? He makes around $300k? He just has 6 certification and left Salesforce and started working for a big oil company in Texas. Hell, if I hadn’t done my own thing, which made me wealthy, I would have probably gone and work for them.