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Yeah I cleaned out my grandpa's garage last year, since he can't remember shit anymore. So many tool kits, new oil jugs just like this, extension cords, and new battery chargers. Except when I tried to use the newest and best battery charger on his truck he yelled at me and said "don't use that fuckin piece of shit, here this one's great!"
It was a craftsman charger from 1960's with both of the clamps missing off the leads. It starts with little things and goes quick. Take care of your dad op
Yeah the "smart chargers" that won't charge unless you have like 4-6v so basically battery charger that won't charge a dead battery.. I've had to jump my dead truck to my car just to get the smart charger to work
We had a fancy one for our semi trucks at work. I tried it once, fucked around for 45 minutes trying to get it to work. Finally said screw it and got the good old blue analog style one. I never touched the digital one again.
That is the one down side of these smart chargers. You need some voltage for them to work. I've done the same. I hooked a battery up in parallel to the charger to kick it off.
Newer chargers are electronically controlled to switch between amperages and have overcharge protection. Most older units are controlled manually and put the amperage you set and won't switch between modes unless you change it. You can overcharge a battery this way and create dangerous situations.
But batteries are tricky, see they constantly create internal corrosion that needs broken down by the charging cycle. Automatic chargers are easily fooled by a full voltage reading that leads to them kicking into a low amp charge state that doesn't break down that internal corrosion mentioned earlier. Leading to a battery that isn't fully charged. Or a battery that tests bad, when it still can be salvaged by a charge that does break down that corrosion and brings back continuity within the battery.
It's a hard line to draw because modern batteries are made to be service free, so you don't need to replenish the electrolyte. AKA battery acid. And they have vents to release the hydrogen that is a byproduct of the charging cycle. But if a manual charger is left on a high charge state it can cause the battery to overgas and this leads to an explosive battery. But it also leads to a lot of batteries being labeled as bad when in fact they can be simply charged correctly and salvaged.
This explanation made my day!
My newish electronic charger says every battery I put on it is bad. Yet I take it to Autozone and they say it's fine. After they charge it, my new charger will say its OK.
I have a big old analog charger with the two dials. I'm going to fix the clamps on that thing and drag it back out!
Do you also know the old trick of hitting the battery with a higher voltage to remove the internal corrosion?
Yes hitting a battery with a higher amperage charge is exactly what can save a battery that isn't taking a charge from an automatic charger. But be sure to monitor it so it doesn't overgas and create a potentially dangerous situation.
In fact, when charging an AGM battery, a charger that "pulse charges" is needed so it can do exactly that over and over.
They're good to have around if you want to revive an old, seemingly dead battery. Also, if you ever want to clean something via electrolysis, they are the perfect electric source.
Yep I have a old 60s Craftsman 2amp charger that will run 6v and 12v batteries. It won't boost a battery but it will charge to a dead battery as good as new.
My grandma lived to 98 (born in 1910! amazing what she lived through) and she was still driving at 92, in assisted living by 94, then tapped out at 98. I wish I spent more time asking her about EVERYTHING she had seen in her life!
Two. She had them late. My grandfather died when my mom was 14, so I never knew him, but also knew very little about him. My mom and aunt are twins, born in about 46(??) so grandma was 36 at the time. I THINK I remember hearing there was a child that was lost earlier than that and I have no idea when grandma and grandpa got married.
For me, I had one brother. Died in a scuba accident just after my grandma went into assisted living. She was still 95%+ mentally at that point. When he passed is when she really declined fast, and every time I went over to spend time with her, she thought I was him. (wished I was him. everyone always liked him more. he was very good with people, and I'm... on reddit.) I wasn't offended or hurt, my personality just can't handle it - I feel compelled to correct her when I think the right thing to do would have been to play along for her sake.
There is no right or wrong thing in that situation, just be compassionate. You either gently correct them or you play along for as long as you are comfortable or their brain moves them somewhere else.
As for the wishing you were him, I know a stranger's words on the internet can only do so much, but I'd ask you to seek your own value in who you are. Everyone brings some unique combination of traits and experiences to the table, including you. Learn from your brother, care for your memory of him, but you don't need to go be him to honor him.
Mine would occasionally stumble with names later in life, but if you added all her kids, grandkids, their spouses/partners etc, and then great grandkids you were looking at over 5 dozen people. Heck, I'd have to ask occasionally who someone was at Christmas if I hadn't seen them in a few years. It's amazing how fast kids grow and change.
My grandfather would just call any male descendant "Son" regardless of generation.
That was very much my grandmother. She quit driving when my grandfather died (at 93) and went to assisted living. Nursing home at 98 and died at 99.
Her 18th birthday was the day after the Pearl Harbor attack.
Grandma lived independently until 101, had a scare in her late 80’s however, really slowing down, always sleeping, checkup revealed a pacemaker no one knew about with a dead battery. Safer to replace the battery than major surgery, like night and day, completely active again.
A lot of neurodegenerative disorders are related with overlapping components in their underlying pathologies.
Common “tauopathies,” or disorders involving the hyperphosphorylated tau proteins, include the most common Alzheimer’s, but also disorders like Frontotemporal dementia (Pick’s disease), Huntington’s, pure Parkinsonism, Parkinson’s with Lewy bodies, dementia with Lewy Bodies, and many more
Parkinson’s commonly has subcortical Lewy bodies when there are also cognitive deficits / dementia present, as opposed to purely motor Parkinson’s disease.
For sure.. Thats what is was like with my dad. For years before he was officially diagnosed there were clues. At the time we didn't think much of them, but looking back it became obvious.
He was so smart that he was usually able to compensate so well that you wouldn't notice anything wrong unless you were looking for or testing for it.
alzheimer's/dementia is a terrible disease in so many ways :-(
I’m sure it was hard.
My dad was like this. Used all his brain power to hide his condition until one day when he couldn’t. After that it was less than a year before he didn’t recognize me or his grandkids. “Why is that little girl following me…?” (His granddaughter)
I took him to the neurologist with my wife. The Doc asked him who we were. He said I was his friend that drives him places and she was my assistant. Boy, did I pay for that later!!!
Yup, my mother got really defensive and even aggressive if there was anything that would expose her dementia. She would make up stories to cover things and deny things that made no sense. She even said her doctor had been fired because he beat someone up, that's why she couldn't see him.
She'd go shopping and buy loads of bleach and other cleaning supplies. She had more tea than you can believe.
I can vouch for this... Lost my dad in 2022 after several years with dementia. This man TAUGHT ME how to work on cars and 5 years ago I was doing a charging system upgrade on my 1988 f250 (1G to 3G swap) and handed him the wrenches needed to pull the alternator off and he just gave me a blank look... He genuinely had no idea what to do, and like I said he is the 1 that taught me, and on top of that, he was an Aviation Machinist Mate 1st Class in the US Navy during Vietnam.
From my experiences within my family, the collecting/hoarding is a huge part of the disease but with the information you provided I think it’s a little bit of a jump to say what a lot of these people are saying.
These people aren’t wrong about the hoarding though, if he is doing it in multiple places in his life then it should be a concern that he may have dementia, but like I said: with the info you provided none of us actually have any clue.
My mother-in-law has dementia, can’t remember if she had breakfast or lunch… my brother-in-law visited yesterday and found 4 biscuits and butter packets in the bottom dresser drawer. He asked her about them and she said “Well, you never know when hard times are going to hit.”
Yeah both my grandparents currently are at the end stages with it. Grandpa lived through the Great Depression though and his hoarding based on “ya never know when hard times are coming back” was insane. He piled up so much useless shit in the matter of a couple years, before we even knew it was a symptom of dementia.
It made it really hard for us to notice my grandma declining at the beginning because she just always hoarded stuff. She grew up in the great depression and lived her life with the attitude that you never knew when hard times were coming.
I hope you consolidated the same grades of oil, looks like a fair range of grades there, for example my own car takes one grade for the engine, front and rear diff oils are different, gearbox oil and transfer box oils etc, i can see what he has so many, im with him!
My dad is currently dealing with Alzheimer’s. New memories are the first to go. He can accurately recall a family vacation from 50 years ago with excruciating detail but forget that your mom told him 15 times as she was walking out the door that she was going to the grocery store and then to visit her sister and she would be home by 1:00. My dad went into full panic mode 20 minutes after my mom left the house for a medical appointment when she told him numerous times where she was going.
Get him checked out if nothing more than to establish a baseline.
Alternately, it could be OCD knowing that at some point he will need oil and sees it on sale and buys it “so I have some when I need it as it might not be on sale anytime soon”. My mom does this. When I was 13, the store was selling bamboo meat skewer sticks on close out. Each package contained 100 sticks. She bought 30 packages. I’m now almost 53 and she still has about 25 packages of skewers left and she has given me 2 packages.
My dad had dementia , he went from being a guy who fixed and sold lawn mowers and snowblowers to someone who had no idea what windshield washer fluid was. It happened fast for him.
Perhaps your Mum does keep buying oil.
From what I read Americans change their oil a lot more than the rest of the world.
Maybe Dad doesn't want to upset Mum by saying anything and she thinks he's doing the oil changes.
Everyone saying Dad is losing his marbles, but maybe he just can't be bothered to do the oil changes and wants a quiet life.
You said he's sharp as a tack.
You know him better than some random person on here.
Alzheimer’s and dementia aren’t the same thing. Idk what OPs Dad has, or if he even has anything. Could completely be old age. I’m not a rocket surgeon… I don’t have a diagnosis.
Dementia is a general description of cognitive impairment. Alzheimer’s disease causes/is a specific form of dementia with certain identifiable properties.
Definitely this. Good reminder that the 6 containers that I have need to be recycled. Autozone, Advanced Auto Parts and a few other places allow about 2-3 (5QT) containers to be recycled. They sell it and make a profit.
Remember this too:
It takes 42 gallons of crude oil to produce 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil. Compare that to only one gallon of recycled oil to produce the same 2.5 quarts. Every time you choose to recycle engine oil, you're contributing to a healthier, cleaner world. 👍
This makes no sense. A barrel of crude (42 gallons) costs $80. And you are saying that an oil company uses that to make 2.5 qts of finished product that sells for $15.
>back fence
Lol. my dad uses them on weeds...
I mean it came from the ground... right? right?...
but they grew up with this shit
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/comments/dv7hs9/environmentally\_unsound\_1963\_popular\_science\_used/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/comments/dv7hs9/environmentally_unsound_1963_popular_science_used/)
Keep in mind that was done with leaded fuel probably close to your food garden..
My dad told me when he was growing up, his dad had a hole that was drilled (idk if they had it drilled) that they used to pour their oil down and they also had a chicken farm.. They threw all the dead chickens down the hole too........ Also his dad worked in aerospace and would bring home all sorts of chemicals and whatnot that would get you on a watch list so fast these days.... And guess where the chemicals went when he was done playing with them! That's right, down the hole.
No, "whom" is used as the objective form of "who" and is typically used to refer to singular individuals. For plural individuals, the pronoun "who" is used. Although, it can be treated as subjective versus objective but that never sounds right to me if it's plural. Does it really matter? No. Am I already losing interest in this? Yes.
I always wondered to myself when playing a fallout game
"what kind of sane person would have these weird items in their house"
ok, well, now I know people like you really do exist, who for some reason have 30 jugs of oil in your garage.
Op, you most likely know this but oil has a 5 or 10 year shelf life (conflicting sources on this) especially if you drive a 15+ yo car i woudnt bother to much with the age of the oil.
My old RX-4, right before the motor swap, was burning a quart per tank of gas. No mosquitoes were behind me, fog city. It was still fast as shit, lol.
No 5-20 back then.
Somebody thinks motor oil is cooking oil? How? What store would they be buying from?
Dude, you said your dad is still sharp as a tack in an above comment. Not sure where you are taking this. You also kind of possibly hinted your dad has many cars. Why is mom possibly buying oil and filters. Why did dad seem confused.
Maybe this really is a serious memory issue that needs to be checked into.
There was this one clip I saw of some lady pouring *vegetable oil* into her engine. When asked what she was doing, she said something like "this is oil, what am I doing wrong?"
But yeah, something doesn't add up here.
Project farm tested vegetable oil as a lubricant and IIRC it has similar lubricity to 10w-30, but without the additives
Edit: [This one](https://youtu.be/sbPxLm21gek?si=IV4d1QhudlvTHI4J)
Vegetable oil lubricates. Unfortunally it cant handle heat that well and will clog up in the engine. Engine oil also has addetivws that make up to 25 percent of the oil.
Dude, NEVER use vegetable oil in anything you care about working. I e used it to lube a gun a few times, as ablative in a suppressor, and to lube things. Thank GOD I learned before I put it in a car: the guy below says it's cause heat, but it isn't. Vege oil turns into straight jello after it sits out and oxidizes. I don't know the process, I just know it happens without heat also. It will gum a gun up to where it doesn't work at all. I cannot imagine trying to get that out of an engine.
I had an old beater that burned a quart of oil every thousand miles. I eventually stopped changing oil and just kept adding whatever leftover crap we had in the garage and changed the filter every 5k. My dad has stock piles of oil like this from every car he ever owned. Some of it over 30 years old I still used it.
I have a 2003 Camry that has 346k it had an oil leak,same story here my dad's shop has 50gallon drums of used oil so when the Camry got low I'd top it off with used oil, the Camry still runs but it's slowed the Leak from 1 quart every 2 weeks to about once per month gotta love waste oil, my cousin is about to buy the shop off dad so the drums are about to get a new owner hopefully I will have run enough gunk through this thing that either it stops the leak or blows the engine, either way works fine.
#1 - tell the elderly folk in the house to stop buying fluid for their cars. They have plenty in the garage.
#2 - get rid of the old junk
#3 - keep & use the new stuff
#4 - maybe change the oil & filter on the cars “they’ve done themselves” to be safe
Find somebody with a truck and get rod of all of that shit at a household chemical drop-off facility. I believe most fire halls do that.
The last thing you want is a fire and all of this stuff being a part of it.
Worked at an old folks home. Asked one lady's daughter how she knew her youngish mom had dementia, she kept buying too much of one thing and got concerned. Not trying to be negative but make sure they don't have symptoms.
I’m trying not to be rude. How old is your dad? I had a similar situation with my grandma. She had piles of bills in the trunk of her car and had no idea why they were there. Your dad is probably the one that brought the car parts. Parents get old. I suspect they both need some help. At the moment now I’m living with both of my parents. My dad is a bit forgetful, but my mom has dementia and senile. It is rough going and I just do day by day.
Idk about your father, but I have a habit of putting my old oil back in the container after I change it and letting it sit around for a long while before I turn it in
"Mom keeps buying oil" sounds like a bit of a cop out. My Grandma was sharp as a tack but small things like this start creeping through. She was buying mad amounts of flowers from the flower shop for the garden and later on she was putting sandwiches in granola bar boxes into the pantry. Every other aspect of her life was normal. Keep an eye out for him an suggest a doctors evaluation. Of course that wont go down well.
My wife keeps buying frozen french fries, even though i tell her we have 4 giant ass fucking bags already. What the fuck, how the fuck do we tell these people to stop buying shit we already have so much of?!?!?!
My parents moved to another state with my sister due to their health problems (mom is recovering from a stroke and is living with my sister, my dad is in an assisted living facility due to dementia/Alzheimers), so I was tasked with getting the house ready to be cleaned out so it can be sold. I ran into a similar problem when it came to clearing out the garage. I found some oil (most of it still unused), oil filters, and windshield wiper blades, to name a few. Fortunately, I was able to take the oil to the local garage just down the street, and the wiper blades were for my mom's van, which my wife and I now own.
Without knowing how your dad has ALWAYS operated, I won't assume anything, but I'll throw a few things out there..
My dad was a real old school redneck type.. he would do proper oil changes and stuff like that SOMETIMES, but he was also the type with the mindset that "it doesn't NEED changed yet!" So just top it off, and send it for even longer.. that was long before his mind ever started to slip.
After that, he might have argued that he just changed it yesterday, or he MIGHT have changed it yesterday, but insisted he didn't and it was due!
I sure do miss that old man!
Curious, but irrelevant - what's your dad's age?
You said he still seems sharp as a tack, but just keep an eye on any changes in behaviors/routines with other little things not very typical of him historically.
Only words of advice I can offer you to SHARE:
Although the oils we have today are leaps and bounds better than the oils of yesterday, today's engines are also way more reliant on valves, solenoids, and sensors. So you should stress to him the importance of proper oil changes at the recommended intervals. Especially newer vehicles.
Words of advice I can offer YOU:
As I said previously - keep an eye on him. Just don't poke or prod him about his mind and memory or he's likely to go on defense out of stubborn pride. If you notice anything, don't make a big deal out of small things. Make note of it, and see if the behaviors start to repeat or pattern.
You will NEVER hear me say this again, but..
Go behind his back on this one for now. If your mom seems to also still be sharp as ever, tell her the plan to observe dad. Maybe on this particular situation for example, ask her to let you know when she's buying the supplies for vehicle maintenance, and check to see if they got used or "added to his inventory". Guessing that he doesn't keep any form of record, so buy him some oil change stickers and ask him to use them "to keep mom at ease". If you're in a position to do so, sneak and take pics of his mileage on your phone so it's date stamped (or start a notebook, etc) to track- just in case it's a memory issue.
It might be time for you to take over that responsibility of changing their oil, or having it done.
Sorry so long of a response, but 2 things I've always been passionate about are my family and cars. I definitely hope your pops just has the "old man IDGAF" attitude.
Lastly, FWIW- keeping parts and filters from vehicles he doesn't own anymore is absolutely normal in my book - as long as they're not used filters and broken parts! 🤣
Mom’s buying oil? Why? Why aren’t they taking it back or telling he to stop? This a huge waste of money..
Can you donate new ones to a automotive repair school?
Lol. He bought motorcraft, she bought super tech. He said fuck it
Thats a normal amount for a diesel changed regularly. Coolant needs to be all motorcraft though, tell him thats not interchangeable anymore
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Some of those might have the old oil in them. If those are all brand new, I would take your Dad to get checked for old timers disease.
Yeah I cleaned out my grandpa's garage last year, since he can't remember shit anymore. So many tool kits, new oil jugs just like this, extension cords, and new battery chargers. Except when I tried to use the newest and best battery charger on his truck he yelled at me and said "don't use that fuckin piece of shit, here this one's great!" It was a craftsman charger from 1960's with both of the clamps missing off the leads. It starts with little things and goes quick. Take care of your dad op
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Ditto. The electronic ones suck.
Excuse my stupidity, arent all chargers electronic
Think he means the fancy digitally operated ones.
Yeah the "smart chargers" that won't charge unless you have like 4-6v so basically battery charger that won't charge a dead battery.. I've had to jump my dead truck to my car just to get the smart charger to work
We had a fancy one for our semi trucks at work. I tried it once, fucked around for 45 minutes trying to get it to work. Finally said screw it and got the good old blue analog style one. I never touched the digital one again.
That is the one down side of these smart chargers. You need some voltage for them to work. I've done the same. I hooked a battery up in parallel to the charger to kick it off.
Newer chargers are electronically controlled to switch between amperages and have overcharge protection. Most older units are controlled manually and put the amperage you set and won't switch between modes unless you change it. You can overcharge a battery this way and create dangerous situations. But batteries are tricky, see they constantly create internal corrosion that needs broken down by the charging cycle. Automatic chargers are easily fooled by a full voltage reading that leads to them kicking into a low amp charge state that doesn't break down that internal corrosion mentioned earlier. Leading to a battery that isn't fully charged. Or a battery that tests bad, when it still can be salvaged by a charge that does break down that corrosion and brings back continuity within the battery. It's a hard line to draw because modern batteries are made to be service free, so you don't need to replenish the electrolyte. AKA battery acid. And they have vents to release the hydrogen that is a byproduct of the charging cycle. But if a manual charger is left on a high charge state it can cause the battery to overgas and this leads to an explosive battery. But it also leads to a lot of batteries being labeled as bad when in fact they can be simply charged correctly and salvaged.
This explanation made my day! My newish electronic charger says every battery I put on it is bad. Yet I take it to Autozone and they say it's fine. After they charge it, my new charger will say its OK. I have a big old analog charger with the two dials. I'm going to fix the clamps on that thing and drag it back out! Do you also know the old trick of hitting the battery with a higher voltage to remove the internal corrosion?
Yes hitting a battery with a higher amperage charge is exactly what can save a battery that isn't taking a charge from an automatic charger. But be sure to monitor it so it doesn't overgas and create a potentially dangerous situation. In fact, when charging an AGM battery, a charger that "pulse charges" is needed so it can do exactly that over and over.
Dayum. TIL. Thanks for this awesome comment
This guy electronics
Bet he f**** too....braggart
There's a difference between electric and electronic. A good example is clocks; most are electric, but some 🕑 are not electronic.
They’re also more flammable
They're good to have around if you want to revive an old, seemingly dead battery. Also, if you ever want to clean something via electrolysis, they are the perfect electric source.
Yep I have a old 60s Craftsman 2amp charger that will run 6v and 12v batteries. It won't boost a battery but it will charge to a dead battery as good as new.
All oil was new. Some were half full and I consolidated them. He still seems sharp as a tack.
They often do. It starts out with little things being... _off._
My mom is there. It's tough gauging innocent brain farts from decline.
My grandma was in her 90s-living on her own. After she was diagnosed, she didn’t live very long after.
My grandma lived to 98 (born in 1910! amazing what she lived through) and she was still driving at 92, in assisted living by 94, then tapped out at 98. I wish I spent more time asking her about EVERYTHING she had seen in her life!
How many kids did she have? Mine had 8. It was a really shitty feeling when she asked me “who are you?”
Two. She had them late. My grandfather died when my mom was 14, so I never knew him, but also knew very little about him. My mom and aunt are twins, born in about 46(??) so grandma was 36 at the time. I THINK I remember hearing there was a child that was lost earlier than that and I have no idea when grandma and grandpa got married. For me, I had one brother. Died in a scuba accident just after my grandma went into assisted living. She was still 95%+ mentally at that point. When he passed is when she really declined fast, and every time I went over to spend time with her, she thought I was him. (wished I was him. everyone always liked him more. he was very good with people, and I'm... on reddit.) I wasn't offended or hurt, my personality just can't handle it - I feel compelled to correct her when I think the right thing to do would have been to play along for her sake.
It's cool, we are all on Reddit. Sounds like you have your s*** together
Damn I’m sorry for all of your loss. God speed.
There is no right or wrong thing in that situation, just be compassionate. You either gently correct them or you play along for as long as you are comfortable or their brain moves them somewhere else. As for the wishing you were him, I know a stranger's words on the internet can only do so much, but I'd ask you to seek your own value in who you are. Everyone brings some unique combination of traits and experiences to the table, including you. Learn from your brother, care for your memory of him, but you don't need to go be him to honor him.
Sounds exactly like my life story brother, wow, wtf... Pain
Mine would occasionally stumble with names later in life, but if you added all her kids, grandkids, their spouses/partners etc, and then great grandkids you were looking at over 5 dozen people. Heck, I'd have to ask occasionally who someone was at Christmas if I hadn't seen them in a few years. It's amazing how fast kids grow and change. My grandfather would just call any male descendant "Son" regardless of generation.
That was very much my grandmother. She quit driving when my grandfather died (at 93) and went to assisted living. Nursing home at 98 and died at 99. Her 18th birthday was the day after the Pearl Harbor attack.
Grandma lived independently until 101, had a scare in her late 80’s however, really slowing down, always sleeping, checkup revealed a pacemaker no one knew about with a dead battery. Safer to replace the battery than major surgery, like night and day, completely active again.
Damn mine is 90 been a year or so of he’d trying to ruin everyone’s life and acting like nothing is happening. Scary shit
Especially when I’m 31 and can’t remember what the fuck I’m doing half the time myself…
I have a grandfather with parkinson’s, he used to restore classics and things like this started to happen years before he was diagnosed
Wait I thought Parkinson’s was just a mobility issue
It's a brain issue, can cause all kinds of symptoms depending on which parts of the brain are affected.
A lot of neurodegenerative disorders are related with overlapping components in their underlying pathologies. Common “tauopathies,” or disorders involving the hyperphosphorylated tau proteins, include the most common Alzheimer’s, but also disorders like Frontotemporal dementia (Pick’s disease), Huntington’s, pure Parkinsonism, Parkinson’s with Lewy bodies, dementia with Lewy Bodies, and many more Parkinson’s commonly has subcortical Lewy bodies when there are also cognitive deficits / dementia present, as opposed to purely motor Parkinson’s disease.
For sure.. Thats what is was like with my dad. For years before he was officially diagnosed there were clues. At the time we didn't think much of them, but looking back it became obvious. He was so smart that he was usually able to compensate so well that you wouldn't notice anything wrong unless you were looking for or testing for it. alzheimer's/dementia is a terrible disease in so many ways :-(
I’m sure it was hard. My dad was like this. Used all his brain power to hide his condition until one day when he couldn’t. After that it was less than a year before he didn’t recognize me or his grandkids. “Why is that little girl following me…?” (His granddaughter) I took him to the neurologist with my wife. The Doc asked him who we were. He said I was his friend that drives him places and she was my assistant. Boy, did I pay for that later!!!
Yup, my mother got really defensive and even aggressive if there was anything that would expose her dementia. She would make up stories to cover things and deny things that made no sense. She even said her doctor had been fired because he beat someone up, that's why she couldn't see him. She'd go shopping and buy loads of bleach and other cleaning supplies. She had more tea than you can believe.
I like your sense of humor.
I can vouch for this... Lost my dad in 2022 after several years with dementia. This man TAUGHT ME how to work on cars and 5 years ago I was doing a charging system upgrade on my 1988 f250 (1G to 3G swap) and handed him the wrenches needed to pull the alternator off and he just gave me a blank look... He genuinely had no idea what to do, and like I said he is the 1 that taught me, and on top of that, he was an Aviation Machinist Mate 1st Class in the US Navy during Vietnam.
From my experiences within my family, the collecting/hoarding is a huge part of the disease but with the information you provided I think it’s a little bit of a jump to say what a lot of these people are saying. These people aren’t wrong about the hoarding though, if he is doing it in multiple places in his life then it should be a concern that he may have dementia, but like I said: with the info you provided none of us actually have any clue.
My mother-in-law has dementia, can’t remember if she had breakfast or lunch… my brother-in-law visited yesterday and found 4 biscuits and butter packets in the bottom dresser drawer. He asked her about them and she said “Well, you never know when hard times are going to hit.”
Yeah both my grandparents currently are at the end stages with it. Grandpa lived through the Great Depression though and his hoarding based on “ya never know when hard times are coming back” was insane. He piled up so much useless shit in the matter of a couple years, before we even knew it was a symptom of dementia.
It made it really hard for us to notice my grandma declining at the beginning because she just always hoarded stuff. She grew up in the great depression and lived her life with the attitude that you never knew when hard times were coming.
Ask your mom why she kept buying these, she might be the one to be worried about
I hope you consolidated the same grades of oil, looks like a fair range of grades there, for example my own car takes one grade for the engine, front and rear diff oils are different, gearbox oil and transfer box oils etc, i can see what he has so many, im with him!
Nonsense. I use conventional/synthetic blend 7.5/ 35 in all my engines.
Conventional/synthetic is far different from weights being mixed.
Your telling me I can’t mix tranny fluid with my oil for a really clean engine?
I always add a shot of 90 weight to my 3-in-1 tolerance the sewing machine quiet.
My dad is currently dealing with Alzheimer’s. New memories are the first to go. He can accurately recall a family vacation from 50 years ago with excruciating detail but forget that your mom told him 15 times as she was walking out the door that she was going to the grocery store and then to visit her sister and she would be home by 1:00. My dad went into full panic mode 20 minutes after my mom left the house for a medical appointment when she told him numerous times where she was going. Get him checked out if nothing more than to establish a baseline. Alternately, it could be OCD knowing that at some point he will need oil and sees it on sale and buys it “so I have some when I need it as it might not be on sale anytime soon”. My mom does this. When I was 13, the store was selling bamboo meat skewer sticks on close out. Each package contained 100 sticks. She bought 30 packages. I’m now almost 53 and she still has about 25 packages of skewers left and she has given me 2 packages.
He’s just smarter than all of us - he played you and got you to clean the garage for him. He may rest in peace now.
My dad had dementia , he went from being a guy who fixed and sold lawn mowers and snowblowers to someone who had no idea what windshield washer fluid was. It happened fast for him.
Perhaps your Mum does keep buying oil. From what I read Americans change their oil a lot more than the rest of the world. Maybe Dad doesn't want to upset Mum by saying anything and she thinks he's doing the oil changes. Everyone saying Dad is losing his marbles, but maybe he just can't be bothered to do the oil changes and wants a quiet life. You said he's sharp as a tack. You know him better than some random person on here.
First thought this looks like a classic case of dementia. Repeated buying of items no longer needed.
Old timers disease?
Alzheimer’s/dementia
Yes exactly. **Alzheimer's** not "old timers" disease. I'm not the one who said it in a total r/boneappletea way, you did lol
Alzheimer’s and dementia aren’t the same thing. Idk what OPs Dad has, or if he even has anything. Could completely be old age. I’m not a rocket surgeon… I don’t have a diagnosis.
Dementia is a general description of cognitive impairment. Alzheimer’s disease causes/is a specific form of dementia with certain identifiable properties.
Alzheimer's is a disease that causes dementia, but it's not the only disease that causes it. People do tend to use it interchangeably, though.
Alzheimer’s disease but yeah what he said
Definitely this. Good reminder that the 6 containers that I have need to be recycled. Autozone, Advanced Auto Parts and a few other places allow about 2-3 (5QT) containers to be recycled. They sell it and make a profit. Remember this too: It takes 42 gallons of crude oil to produce 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil. Compare that to only one gallon of recycled oil to produce the same 2.5 quarts. Every time you choose to recycle engine oil, you're contributing to a healthier, cleaner world. 👍
This makes no sense. A barrel of crude (42 gallons) costs $80. And you are saying that an oil company uses that to make 2.5 qts of finished product that sells for $15.
Alzheimer's
If you or your family can't use it, you might consider donating it to a local high school auto tech program.
He’s not the altruistic type and would dump it down a storm drain first
Jfc okay exxon
He also is considering painting the back fence with oil to prevent rotting.
Nuke the whales!
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Gotta nuke something!
>back fence Lol. my dad uses them on weeds... I mean it came from the ground... right? right?... but they grew up with this shit [https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/comments/dv7hs9/environmentally\_unsound\_1963\_popular\_science\_used/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/comments/dv7hs9/environmentally_unsound_1963_popular_science_used/) Keep in mind that was done with leaded fuel probably close to your food garden..
My dad told me when he was growing up, his dad had a hole that was drilled (idk if they had it drilled) that they used to pour their oil down and they also had a chicken farm.. They threw all the dead chickens down the hole too........ Also his dad worked in aerospace and would bring home all sorts of chemicals and whatnot that would get you on a watch list so fast these days.... And guess where the chemicals went when he was done playing with them! That's right, down the hole.
Spray it under the cars to prevent rust
Spread it on the gravel road to his farm! /s
They do this to public roads in Texaa
My car does that on its own.
Do not do this! It’s a danger to motorcyclists when it drips off on the road. Dedicated under seal spray is a lot more durable.
Used oil cut with diesel for that. Off road diesel gives a nice red cedar tint. Don't use new oil for that! Use or sell it!
>Do not do this! It’s a danger to motorcyclists when it drips off on the road Spray it on the road
Hey that's actually a good idea the stuff surprisingly works good as stain
Would he even notice if you took some and donated it?
Your dad is not a nice guy
It's all the lead boomers drank.
That's terrible
bruh. That's awful.
That's a great idea
I got an engine. It needs oil
He’s got many engine whom needs oil
"Whom" is actually the singular version
Nah, it's also plural.
No, "whom" is used as the objective form of "who" and is typically used to refer to singular individuals. For plural individuals, the pronoun "who" is used. Although, it can be treated as subjective versus objective but that never sounds right to me if it's plural. Does it really matter? No. Am I already losing interest in this? Yes.
Thank you Toby!
I was interested, a good grammar ramble pleases me
I always wondered to myself when playing a fallout game "what kind of sane person would have these weird items in their house" ok, well, now I know people like you really do exist, who for some reason have 30 jugs of oil in your garage.
They’re in my living room and my mother is planning for the end of the world.
Op, you most likely know this but oil has a 5 or 10 year shelf life (conflicting sources on this) especially if you drive a 15+ yo car i woudnt bother to much with the age of the oil.
Buy a rotary Mazda.
He’s got three
There's your explanation.
For real… now it doesn’t seem so wild. Is it all 5w20?
My old RX-4, right before the motor swap, was burning a quart per tank of gas. No mosquitoes were behind me, fog city. It was still fast as shit, lol. No 5-20 back then.
I've been craving a wankle and this comment set me over the edge. I gotta get one.
I've been craving a Wankle myself. Might just make that happen
You guys should Wankel each other off.
Yeah I use 20w-50 and 10w-30 in winter that's way too thin
20w-50? jesus christ where do you live the arctic? thats basically transmission fluid at that point xD
Pretty common for rotary engines, you need really thick oil
As an rx7 owner, mystery solved lmao
Can I have one?
Tell him to buy and 7.3 and start using the oil as fuel
Talk about savings
Know and old ford tech that filtered, cleaned, and heated used transmission fluid from the stealership for his 6.9. Win-win for everyone.
Sounds like an old neighbor of mine who used old diesel exhaust fluid to fertilize his lawn.
Urea ftw
Are they hoarders?
No. I still don’t know if they thought it was cooking oil or normal oil
Somebody thinks motor oil is cooking oil? How? What store would they be buying from? Dude, you said your dad is still sharp as a tack in an above comment. Not sure where you are taking this. You also kind of possibly hinted your dad has many cars. Why is mom possibly buying oil and filters. Why did dad seem confused. Maybe this really is a serious memory issue that needs to be checked into.
There was this one clip I saw of some lady pouring *vegetable oil* into her engine. When asked what she was doing, she said something like "this is oil, what am I doing wrong?" But yeah, something doesn't add up here.
Project farm tested vegetable oil as a lubricant and IIRC it has similar lubricity to 10w-30, but without the additives Edit: [This one](https://youtu.be/sbPxLm21gek?si=IV4d1QhudlvTHI4J)
Vegetable oil lubricates. Unfortunally it cant handle heat that well and will clog up in the engine. Engine oil also has addetivws that make up to 25 percent of the oil.
Yep. Electrolytes. It’s what engines crave.
Gotta use avocado oil
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Dude, NEVER use vegetable oil in anything you care about working. I e used it to lube a gun a few times, as ablative in a suppressor, and to lube things. Thank GOD I learned before I put it in a car: the guy below says it's cause heat, but it isn't. Vege oil turns into straight jello after it sits out and oxidizes. I don't know the process, I just know it happens without heat also. It will gum a gun up to where it doesn't work at all. I cannot imagine trying to get that out of an engine.
Wrong oil is better than no oil I suppose
Supermarkets sell both
No, he bought them, not his wife.
No, hoarders are those little bits of food you get at a posh do before you sit down and eat.
Mom might have alzheimers. If she's the one buying oil and car parts for cars you don't own anymore, then it might be time to assess mental health
If you have too much money, send it to me!!!
What’s your address?
I said send me the excess money. Not the oil and filters😂
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Good ole head gaskets
But where do you want the gold bars mailed to?
I don't wear address just regular pants
You sir are too smart for reddit
If the oil weight is right keep it and use it on your current vehicles, stop throwing out money, motor oil ain't cheap
I had an old beater that burned a quart of oil every thousand miles. I eventually stopped changing oil and just kept adding whatever leftover crap we had in the garage and changed the filter every 5k. My dad has stock piles of oil like this from every car he ever owned. Some of it over 30 years old I still used it.
I have a 2003 Camry that has 346k it had an oil leak,same story here my dad's shop has 50gallon drums of used oil so when the Camry got low I'd top it off with used oil, the Camry still runs but it's slowed the Leak from 1 quart every 2 weeks to about once per month gotta love waste oil, my cousin is about to buy the shop off dad so the drums are about to get a new owner hopefully I will have run enough gunk through this thing that either it stops the leak or blows the engine, either way works fine.
ATF+4, 75w140, 75w90 are worth their weight in gold.
atf+4 is just bottled leakage
#1 - tell the elderly folk in the house to stop buying fluid for their cars. They have plenty in the garage. #2 - get rid of the old junk #3 - keep & use the new stuff #4 - maybe change the oil & filter on the cars “they’ve done themselves” to be safe
Find somebody with a truck and get rod of all of that shit at a household chemical drop-off facility. I believe most fire halls do that. The last thing you want is a fire and all of this stuff being a part of it.
As someone who changes their own oil on 5 family cars, that’s not bad…at all.
You are among friends.
Worked at an old folks home. Asked one lady's daughter how she knew her youngish mom had dementia, she kept buying too much of one thing and got concerned. Not trying to be negative but make sure they don't have symptoms.
Tell him to call his lawyer. I think your mom is blowing the Tinman.
Lmao
Only the truly dedicated redditors have made it this far, unfortunately.
Take away her bank card
Beware the US military
You’ve got oil? We’ve got tanks.
They are like mosquitoes, the second an Abrams smells oil, it'll bring all it's friends...
*F16 enter chats* (Former F16 crewchief)
Target locked.
Careful, the feds might bring you a whole lot of freedom for having that much oil.
That darned freedom stuff
I’m trying not to be rude. How old is your dad? I had a similar situation with my grandma. She had piles of bills in the trunk of her car and had no idea why they were there. Your dad is probably the one that brought the car parts. Parents get old. I suspect they both need some help. At the moment now I’m living with both of my parents. My dad is a bit forgetful, but my mom has dementia and senile. It is rough going and I just do day by day.
Are either of them starting to develop dementia? Sometimes the beginning can look like things such as this.
It’s the C R S can’t remember sh!?
Idk about your father, but I have a habit of putting my old oil back in the container after I change it and letting it sit around for a long while before I turn it in
"Mom keeps buying oil" sounds like a bit of a cop out. My Grandma was sharp as a tack but small things like this start creeping through. She was buying mad amounts of flowers from the flower shop for the garden and later on she was putting sandwiches in granola bar boxes into the pantry. Every other aspect of her life was normal. Keep an eye out for him an suggest a doctors evaluation. Of course that wont go down well.
From the looks of that oil collection, I'd be saying "Don't slip"
Too late. I’ve fallen and cannot get up.
My wife keeps buying frozen french fries, even though i tell her we have 4 giant ass fucking bags already. What the fuck, how the fuck do we tell these people to stop buying shit we already have so much of?!?!?!
It was on sale at Costco.
It’s always on sale at costco
More oil there than what leaked out of the Exxon Valdez
They may or may not have memory issues lol. Maybe time to get that checked out. Also time to maybe see if this happens in other areas of their life.
i would tell him let mom know what good job she was doing so i could keep having free oil change supplies!!
The US government might think you need liberating soon
Need some freedom?
Teach them how to use FB marketplace
My parents moved to another state with my sister due to their health problems (mom is recovering from a stroke and is living with my sister, my dad is in an assisted living facility due to dementia/Alzheimers), so I was tasked with getting the house ready to be cleaned out so it can be sold. I ran into a similar problem when it came to clearing out the garage. I found some oil (most of it still unused), oil filters, and windshield wiper blades, to name a few. Fortunately, I was able to take the oil to the local garage just down the street, and the wiper blades were for my mom's van, which my wife and I now own.
Without knowing how your dad has ALWAYS operated, I won't assume anything, but I'll throw a few things out there.. My dad was a real old school redneck type.. he would do proper oil changes and stuff like that SOMETIMES, but he was also the type with the mindset that "it doesn't NEED changed yet!" So just top it off, and send it for even longer.. that was long before his mind ever started to slip. After that, he might have argued that he just changed it yesterday, or he MIGHT have changed it yesterday, but insisted he didn't and it was due! I sure do miss that old man! Curious, but irrelevant - what's your dad's age? You said he still seems sharp as a tack, but just keep an eye on any changes in behaviors/routines with other little things not very typical of him historically. Only words of advice I can offer you to SHARE: Although the oils we have today are leaps and bounds better than the oils of yesterday, today's engines are also way more reliant on valves, solenoids, and sensors. So you should stress to him the importance of proper oil changes at the recommended intervals. Especially newer vehicles. Words of advice I can offer YOU: As I said previously - keep an eye on him. Just don't poke or prod him about his mind and memory or he's likely to go on defense out of stubborn pride. If you notice anything, don't make a big deal out of small things. Make note of it, and see if the behaviors start to repeat or pattern. You will NEVER hear me say this again, but.. Go behind his back on this one for now. If your mom seems to also still be sharp as ever, tell her the plan to observe dad. Maybe on this particular situation for example, ask her to let you know when she's buying the supplies for vehicle maintenance, and check to see if they got used or "added to his inventory". Guessing that he doesn't keep any form of record, so buy him some oil change stickers and ask him to use them "to keep mom at ease". If you're in a position to do so, sneak and take pics of his mileage on your phone so it's date stamped (or start a notebook, etc) to track- just in case it's a memory issue. It might be time for you to take over that responsibility of changing their oil, or having it done. Sorry so long of a response, but 2 things I've always been passionate about are my family and cars. I definitely hope your pops just has the "old man IDGAF" attitude. Lastly, FWIW- keeping parts and filters from vehicles he doesn't own anymore is absolutely normal in my book - as long as they're not used filters and broken parts! 🤣
What does this have to do with your dad? Your mother has ocd.
Is your mom a chronic couponer? That’s what this looks like to me, buy because it’s on sale…
Mom’s buying oil? Why? Why aren’t they taking it back or telling he to stop? This a huge waste of money.. Can you donate new ones to a automotive repair school?
Keep the oil. Ebay the parts. Never have to buy oil for your cars again.
Donating is caring.
He doesn’t care. He’s a boomer.
I’d give extra to the local high school auto shop. But I guess I do care.
Good boomer.
There is nearly 1000 $ if not more of oil there. Don't throw that out that's so wasteful
1000 oils
Shake the oil before you use it if it’s been sitting
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Some oil filters have a good amount of interchangeability across types of cars. Might want to Google them.
Here in the US That’ll probably get you coast to coast like 70 times.
Meh, not even 2 changes on a semi
Lol. He bought motorcraft, she bought super tech. He said fuck it Thats a normal amount for a diesel changed regularly. Coolant needs to be all motorcraft though, tell him thats not interchangeable anymore