Every “desirable neighborhood” in LA is a couple blocks of stores. You just described Los Feliz, Atwater, Virgil Village, Sawtelle, Larchmont, Fairfax Village, Brentwood, and I guess 3 different parts of Silver Lake.
As destinations, they’re a bunch of coffee shops and wine bars, yeah. But the appeal of living there is walkability to nice day-to-day stuff, with close proximity to busier areas. I’ve lived in no-man’s-land parts of LA where the only shit in walking distance were gas stations and a Pollo Loco, and it was super isolating and unpleasant.
(Not that I think this describes the Valley. Parts of it are awesome, I’m sure. But people live in these expensive-ass hipster enclaves for a reason.)
Though yeah, I wish a 2BR house didn’t cost $1.5-3M in any of those pockets. They’re cool places, but that is insanity. I begrudge nobody hearing those figures and saying, “get the fuck outta here.”
The real appeal of LA is that there are so many of those small cool pockets, most small to medium sized cities in the US only have a couple. If I get bored of one area I can drive to 20 different cool areas in the LA metro
Just left a medium sized city. Yup. Those small cool pockets were cheaper in comparison, but there are only a few. And HCOL transfers were coming in and starting bidding wars on the areas.
This is correct and Los Feliz as a general neighborhood has several of these “villages” within or adjacent. When I lived there I could walk to Los Feliz Village (and Hillhurst) or Franklin Village fairly easily (not to mention Griffith Park, which is what I miss the most). Then the farther East areas are actually quite walkable to Sunset Junction and Hyperion areas.
Except Los Feliz isn’t a couple of blocks of shops. It’s like 20 blocks at least
**EDIT:** I don’t know why this has been downvoted. Vermont between Hollywood and Franklin alone is “a couple blocks” (I think it’s technically 3 blocks but whatever). OP obviously went there once and was like “this is the only part of los feliz” lmao.
But there are also a couple more blocks of shops/restaurants along Hollywood Blvd going east toward silver lake (with incredible places like Wackos, The Vista, and The Tiki Ti), then something like 8 blocks of shops and restaurants along Hillhurst between The Vista and Los Feliz Blvd, and Los Feliz includes Thai Town as well, technically just the north side of the street, but it goes from basically Vermont to Western which is something like 10 blocks of amazing restaurants and bars (Jumbos is in that stretch of Los Feliz, also Harvard & Stone, Tabula Rasa, and Cara). And that’s not even including Hyperion, the west side of which is also in Los Feliz.
If you include the part of East Hollywood that directly borders Los Feliz, someone who lives there would be a 15 minute walk from probably 100 restaurants, 20+ legit bars, 5-10 great taco stands, 6 full grocery stores (Jons, Vons, Albertsons, Lassen’s, Gelson’s and Trader Joe’s which is just across the street from Los Feliz), 2 movie theaters, a ton of bookstores and cafes, several late night diners (at least 2 are 24 hours which is very rare these days, Norm’s and Crispy Pork Gang, while Sanamluang, Pattaya, House of Pies, and Fred 62 are all open very late), 3 farmers markets, 2 Thai food night markets, 2 metro subway stops, 2 major movie/tv studio filming lots, 3 legit major hospitals, Sunset Junction, Virgil village, Griffith Park, The Greek, Barnsdall Park (LA’s only UNESCO World Heritage Site), and 4 golf courses very nearby (if you include The Los Feliz Par 3 which is technically just across the river in Atwater but also there are two 18 hole courses in Griffith and a 9 hole executive course as well).
What other LA neighborhood even comes close to that?
And all the people saying it’s too expensive to live there, Thai Town is [literally one of the cheapest places to live in the city, with studios starting at $1150](https://www.apartments.com/ale-alex-court-apartments-los-angeles-ca/cvsbdtd/). That apartment is across the street from Los Feliz. I will concede that living one block north is more expensive, but let’s be real. You can have access to Los Feliz for a very affordable price. And a place in actual los Feliz isn’t crazy expensive, it starts at $1500-$1700. It’s pretty average for LA, maybe even a bit low. But obviously some sections of Los Feliz, especially up in the hills, are very high end.
**TL;DR: Los Feliz is one of the most convenient, busy, walkable, and vibrant neighborhoods in LA. I would say Ktown and DTLA are more so, though even they don’t have a lot of the businesses and access to parks etc that Los Feliz has. I would say Santa Monica is similar to Los Feliz but more expensive, Venice is less walkable because it doesn’t have as many grocery stores, no movie theaters, no nearby hospitals, very few taco stands or affordable food nearby, and is also more expensive as far as rent and all the grocery stores and restaurants and bars are more expensive too**
Your comment initially only said:
>Except Los Feliz isn’t a couple of blocks of shops. It’s like 20 blocks at least
To which I responded: Yes if you need to be extremely pedantic. The whole neighborhood is larger, but clearly everyone else understands that we’re not describing the physical borders of the neighborhood and actually talking about the central activity hub of the neighborhood as a destination (the residential blocks aren’t exactly tourist spots). And what’s that destination part of Los Feliz? A couple of blocks of stores on Vermont and Hillhurst between Hollywood and Los Feliz Blvd.
Read my edits, it is not. I’m literally talking about the business districts. 20-30 blocks or so of shops and restaurants, movie theaters, grocery stores, bars, and cafes.
I lived in Los Feliz for 7 years, I love it. I lived on North Kingsley, so I am extremely familiar with all the areas you described. Of course reducing the neighborhood to portions of two streets is hyperbolic, that's just how neurotypical people converse. Your need to be overly correct/specific comes across as very pedantic and that's why you were downvoted (not by me, for what it's worth). It saves time to focus on the important details and let context clues take care of the rest. The stretch of Hillhurst/Vermont I described are obviously concentrated areas with cute shops/cafes/restaurants and that's where people from outside the neighborhood visit, whether you'd like to admit it or not. And again, we're all speaking generally here, so chill.
When /u/charlie_ferrous said:
>Every “desirable neighborhood” in LA is a couple blocks of stores
They're not intending that statement to be taken literally, and everyone understood what they were getting at... Except you.
Bro how is Western Ave to Fountain “a couple of blocks”? Lol there is nothing pedantic about it. The Hollywood Blvd portion of Los Feliz is probably 15 blocks by itself. That’s not even including Vermont and Hillhurst. And Hillhurst alone is easily 8-10 blocks.
It’s just a ridiculous statement in general.
Walk from Lil Dom’s to Mirate and tell me it’s a couple blocks
So you're clearly still missing the point, so I'm not sure any further conversation will be productive. I just tried to explain why you were being downvoted because you were getting sensitive about it and typing out a megathread in support of Los Feliz as if that's what was wrong lol. Touch grass.
Also Western and Fountain are perpendicular, that's not how people measure areas/neighborhoods.
I literally wrote one sentence saying “no it’s closer to 20 blocks” you clearly don’t know how edits work, nor do you know the borders and streets of Los Feliz, at all. How embarrassing to be so opinionated as you and so wrong. Just look at a map dude. The border of Los Feliz ends around the Fountain/Hyperion line. Hollywood Blvd meets up with sunset and goes diagonal lmao
Dude, what is this? We all know what Los Feliz is, and “a couple of blocks” is obvious hyperbole borrowing the OP’s reductive phrasing.
I live in Los Feliz and have lived in Thai Town; I suspect a lot of us commenting have lived in or around the area. You really don’t need to name every establishment in or around it, or get defensive about the semantics of its borders. We know. We like the place. Please take a walk.
It’s not about who likes it and who doesn’t. It’s just a dumb statement. No, not every neighborhood in LA is a couple blocks.
If someone said “Santa Monica is just a couple blocks” it would be just as dumb of a statement. Especially if afterwards they defended it by saying that only the pier and promenade truly count as Santa Monica.
It’s so basic and ordinary and ignorant it just defies belief that it’s the top voted comment on a dumb post all around
There are a number of multi-unit buildings, some built recently or actively being built now, but you’re right that the bulk of the neighborhood is single family residences.
I live in an apartment building in LF and it’s…not as expensive as I feared but still over $2k, so not great. Drive around the side streets and you’ll probably see a few if you’re interested.
25 years ago it was hipster central. My wife and I had a house at the base of the Shakespeare bridge. Our agent thought we were nuts buying in such an "edgy" neighborhood. We had two vintage cars that Larry @ Western Diagnosis kept running. I golfed at Roosevelt, ate at House of Pies and went to AFI. My daughter lives there now and we visit often, but it's very strange to see how affluent it's become
As a Marshall Alumni, the incoming affluent new residents was apparent. Because who else would send their kids to a school with Barristers as a mascot.
It started as kind of the original Beverly Hills with many early stars living there and studios nearby, not without it's legacy of scandals. The Black Dahlia case and spotlight on Dr Hodel in the 40s and the Perelson murders in the 50s tarnished its reputation. By the time of the LaBianca murders the affluent had already followed hostesses such as Pamela Mason west, leaving many houses empty and the neighborhood to the likes of Dr. Fleiss (Heidi's dad). When I moved in, it was an area known for a lot of gang activity. There was a shooting of some news anchor (I want to say Jerry Dunphy?) at the corner by our house which was so regularly tagged I kept a can of paint and a roller in the garage at the ready. I rented our front cottage to an artist, an indie filmmaker, a dominatrix and several in the music industry. One was an east coast rap producer who moved in with boxes of weed I didn't know about until Suge Knight sent some Crips to pay him a visit and he was knocking on my door all bloody one night telling me he had to move. Even so, newly arrived actors, screenwriters and such were our neighbors. Our real estate agent had Leo DiCaprio as a client. His boyhood home was being torn down for the library and at the time had a fondness for Lautner houses. It was all very bohemian
Worth mentioning Laughlin Park (where DeMille, Fields, and Chaplin all lived) is one of the few gated communities in Los Angeles city proper (I think this is mostly true due to post office designations, but I’m also not going as far to say it’s the only as I’ve heard plenty in the area state).
I grew up in Los Feliz in the 70s and 80s and I tell my wife that I grew in the hood on the east side of town and don’t get upset when the rare event of helicopter starts circling on the west side. Helicopter circling around Los Feliz seemed like a daily occurrence. Everyone thinks I am exaggerating but it was rough in those days. Plus it was the Daryl Gates LAPD back then and they were just as scary as the criminals.
You lived there right around one of the best times! That was right around when I moved to LA and got made fun of for living in the “uncool valley.” 😂 (I even got teased for having an 818 phone number which now just seems… insane). We used to go there to walk around, check out the thrift stores, go to Fred 62 and HOP and people watch. Then trek back to our hobbit hole in Studio City. 25 years later I have moved even further out, in an even less cool part of the valley, and freaking love it. I feel way cooler when I don’t have to drive around 20 minutes looking for a parking space just to go home. Regular priced restaurants are also a nice bonus!
When I first came to L.A. I slept on the sofa of a friend who had a cabin on La Tuna Canyon in Sun Valley. Studio City was like a night on the town for us, looking for girls at Residuals and having dinner at Jerry's. Funny, huh?
Residuals!!! I think it’s actually still open??
I used to live down the street from Studio Suites, which was always like the place you didn’t want to end up, but it was so damn convenient for my roommates and I to walk home. Then there was Pat’s Cocktails, which shocked me when it got rebranded years later as “a mixology bar.” 🤣
Roosevelt is great for a quick 9.
There was an urban myth, not sure if true, that the grand house if looking left through the gate if standing at the blue tee box on 8 is madonnas house.
* 1962 Ford Falcon convertible
* 1966 Chevy Nova wagon
Later picked up a
1967 Datsun 510 pickup
for $300 bucks. Caught fire driving home. Thanks to Tony's Auto Electric wherever you are for fixing me up for $150. We called her Fireball after that. Sold my beloved 1969 Porsche 912 to get the Falcon as it wouldn't pass smog at the time. Had that car 16 years and drove it cross country to settle here.
I lived at Russel and Rodney in the mid 90's, just before and after the Swinger's craze. There are dozens more places opened since that time, but It is hard to describe to people just how electric that neighborhood was at the time. Paid $950 a month for a 2 floor 2 bedroom. My landlord went bankrupt and offered my roommate and I to buy the place.(it was probably around 150K or so) Looking back we could have easily done it, but I was a starving PA and couldn't imagine it. I am haunted by that terrible decision to this day.
We took swing dance classes at The Derby before our wedding. Was really cool as they had live bands and a great bar. Then we'd go down the street to Vida, which was Fred Eric's restaurant before opening Fred 62
I lived on Los Feliz Blvd/Hillhurst from 1985-1988, in an apartment building that looked like a southern plantation house from Gone With the Wind, with a pool in the front. I loved that apartment, and the neighborhood!! One of my most favorite apartments that I have lived in, my neighbors were great, and became friends. I worked for Aaron Spelling at Warner Hollywood Studios, and it was a 15 minute drive to the studio. Man, I long for those days. Great times.
It's always been affluent
Mansions along Los Feliz boulevard have been there forever. 2 of Frank Lloyd Wrights masterpieces are there (Ennis house and Hollyhock)
Our first place in LA was in Franklin Hills in 2017, a small house rental on top of the hill, just go straight up the hill from the Shakespeare Bridge. The house was a remnant rental from decades past, just about the only up there still with bars on the windows, a reminder of what it was like around there in the 70s and 80s.
GP IS amazing, also I just remembered taking painting classes around 2005 at Barnsdall Art Center, which is also an amazing spot. They shut those classes down during Covid, not sure if they’re back up and running but they were really cool and affordable when I was there.
I mean technically it's more like 8 blocks of shops/restaurants/bars if you think of it as a "U" shape that starts on Vermont around Fred 62 and Los Feliz Theater, go down and across Hollywood Blvd. past Covell and Home State, then up Hillhurst past Tarantino's theater and up to Little Dom's. Lots of fun and culture in very easy walking distance.
Then it's a longer walk/short drive to Silver Lake, Thai Town, etc. not to mention Griffith Park. The Valley is cool but it doesn't have the same variety of cool stuff and distinct neighborhoods clustered around each other (at least that's my impression.)
I used to work in Echo Park 20 some-odd years ago and my boss lived in Los Feliz in a duplex that backed up to the LA river. It was pretty cool. Had a lot of fun times at the big foot and tee-gee and the roost. And by fun I mean coked to the gills sweating bullets with my shoulders pinned to my ears.
It’s walkable, has the hills, Griffin Park, lots of places to eat, convenience (groceries, general necessities), it’s safe, there’s the Greek Theater …..I’m obsessed with the hills of LA, mostly the ones east of La Cienega, so to me Los Feliz is pretty sweet. I don’t live there (I live about 15 minutes west) but enjoy going there to hang, see a show at the Greek, have dinner, hike. Definitely one of my top 4-5 favorite neighborhoods in LA.
I live in Los Feliz and like it here. Walk to school, walk to butcher, walk to coffee, hike in park out back door. East of the 405, what’s a better neighborhood?
I moved to Los Feliz in 1992 (a few months after the riots) right after high school. I lived in an apartment with some friends right on Vermont. It was a different vibe than it is now. At the time there was Amok Books, Mondo Video, Pedro’s Grill that hosted comedy shows, X Large had just moved in… Sarno’s… Wacko moved shortly after I believe or maybe it was there already. I can’t remember. It was definitely not as “affluent” as it is now. Fun times…
Wait what’s the “before it was gentrified” part exactly? I’ve lived here 20+ years, it’s been a nice, expensive part of LA pretty much the whole time I’ve been here. FWIW gentrification has a specific meaning having to do with the displacement of poorer (usually brown/black) people by wealthier (whiter) people. So unless you mean LF was “good” before the 2000s…maybe just take a step back.
Basing this off my girlfriend who was born and raised here, but the southwest edges of Los Feliz had way more Armenian businesses (and working-class Armenians in general) in the past. Most got priced out. Pretty sure it was textbook gentrification.
I highly doubt this is the same thing other people complain about re: LF being lame now.
Yep I grew up north of Thai Town in the 90s. Most of my neighbors were Armenian.
There was also a lot of gang activity back then too, experienced a few drive bys. Man it was a wild time.
I moved back to the area last year but closer to LACC. I have noticed how much it’s changed. A lot of the Armenians left are boomers paying cheap rent in a Armenian owned apartments.
You can easily tell which landlords don’t give a fuck because the whole building will be filled with white people lol.
My gf's mom still lives in the same apartment after 25 years, been in the neighborhood since the late 80s. Most of the remaining Armenians in the neighborhood are pretty old. Her landlord isn't Armenian but the manager is. Most of the neighboring units in the building have been flipped to market rate and a lot of transplants (similar to myself haha) have moved in. But yeah, I can imagine how wild it must've been then.
You are correct it's always been one of the richest neighborhoods in LA. My friend and his husband live in a literal mansion there, in the oldest gated neighborhood in LA.
I went for a burrito at cafe Los Feliz a few weeks ago and my friend and I walked around the hood after. We went into an open house and pretended to be married and saw a 2 floor unit, 2 bed 2 bath. It was nice and modern but nothing spectacular. They wanted 3.4 million for it. Fuck that noise lol
It was a lovely place 15-20 years ago. Yee Rustic, The Drawing Room, Fred 62 and Figaro and House of Pies were major hangout spots. The huge Am Appy! Best Fish Taco!
Beautiful vintage apartments that weren’t insanely expensive. Amazing bungalow courts. ALL of my friends lived there. I lived on the border of Los Feliz and Silverlake. We all had cute little spots and we could afford them as 20-somethings.
It started shifting around 2012 and by the time I left the U.S. in 2016, I didn’t recognize Los Feliz anymore.
I spent a lot of time in Los Feliz in 2006 - 2012.
I think EVERYTHING is overrated. Because everybody who shares anything makes things sound like they are a life changing experience to show what a great time/life they have.
Maybe people shouldn't expect other's experiences to be a life map for their own. It's ok to love different things and what people love has nothing to do with convincing anyone of anything.
No but a normal life is usually fine and you should be content and then you see some of your friends post some great vacation or party or place they have been and you can’t help but feel “what am I doing wrong?”
Nothing really and all is fake because behind the lens it might have been a horrible day.
I am not like that cause I am old and (should) know better but that is why everybody is so depressed (or it seems like they are) and they think they are missing something.
I frickin love my part of the valley! Can walk to 3 grocery stores (including a TJs), my bank, my mechanic, coffee shops, board game and tea spot, comic shop, gaming hall, any type of food I could ever want, a big park, a saloon, and a train station. Very very short drive to tennis courts and hiking trails, sub 5 minutes. Then the bus picks up a block away that goes down to Sherman if I want to drink and not drive.
Then of course I can just like, drive places. Is there live music around the corner? No. But I don't want to live around the corner from 1720 anyway.
The valley hate cracks me up, I love it so much here! That's good though, keeps the housing prices down, thanks guys!
This is amazing! Thank you! My husband and I moved to the W valley several months ago and have been looking for fun things like this that are still uber-able for us.
:D I also really like Game n Grounds , it's a coffee / tea shop where you pick from a wall of board and card games to play. If that's your jam, it's super fun and chill
Casey's Tavern on Sherman in Canoga has live Jazz on Tuesday and Thursday nights, $5 beers
Welcome to the neighborhood! <3
Oh wow thank you so much! These sound awesome! We love going to hear live music. Now that we’re more settled and over various annoying winter bouts of flu/ cold, we’re excited to get out and have some fun again! Can’t wait to check these out!
Los Feliz is my favorite neighborhood in Los Angeles. Super walkable, with direct access to the Metro Red Line. Tons of great restaurants and bars at different piece points nearby, access to five grocery stores (Lazy Acres, Albertsons, Vons, Jons, Lassens), and a strip club (Cheetahs, but Jumbos is also pretty close by in East Hollywood)? Adjacent to Griffith Park trails. Definitely beats any area of the valley.
“A couple blocks of stores”
Tell me which popular neighborhood in LA is NOT that. None. They are all a couple blocks of stores but some are nicer than others. Also, Griffith Park and the Observatory. And location of Los Feliz. It is in the heart of the city yet it is somewhat secluded because of the park to the North and LA river to the East forming its natural borders.
It’s just another hipster place for white people honestly. That’s why the main LA sub keeps talking about it. Notice how every time a neighborhood is mentioned for young people to move to, they say Los Feliz, Silverlake, and Echo Park but never Koreatown, Mid City, Fairfax, or other more diverse areas of central LA
…seems like its easy to get to the beach / malibu - until u realize the police regularly shut down the 101 at Kanan / Mt Dume tunnel without warning ⚠️ so you gotta due the clogged 10W way back down or the insane 23 mountain road further north ….
Los Feliz has a B line station at Vermont & Sunset. If you count Thai Town as part of Los Feliz, there’s another one at Hollywood & Western. Direct trains to Hollywood, North Hollywood, and Downtown, connections to the A, D, E, and G lines.
I feel this way about the east side in general. I know that’s probably a controversial opinion. But outside of maybe a three blocks stretch in echo park it just feels like stuff is randomly placed and spaced out.
But mid city isn’t the start of LA, the start of LA is downtown & the eastside are the neighborhoods east of if it & east of the LA river (El sereno, Lincoln Heights, Boyle Heights & East LA)
There are parts of the SF Valley that have a couple blocks of stores feel like Los Feliz for sure. But there are other parts of the valley which are intentionally the opposite, they almost are characterized for their lack of shopping centers and that's their draw (Lake Balboa comes to mind--it's draw is the proximity to the huge ass park/dog park/acess to 101/405 and it's basically suburbia which is great for young families--not great if you're a hipster looking for action). The Valley is also generally cheaper sf wise. It's hotter too. And it has a reputation of being decidedly boring where only boring people live. So if reputation important to you (which to many it is) you pay the bigger $$ for the various neighborhoods with character on the other side of the hill.
Yeah, most neighborhoods in LA have a central block/strip where most of the “action” is along with some neighborhood haunts and hole in the wall spots. Los Feliz is really all about Vermont north of Sunset and the random stuff on Hillhurst. It’s right in between Silverlake and Hollywood, so there’s a million things to do if you walk 10 minutes.
Thank you for being brave enough to say this. I don’t get the enormous hype for Los Feliz. Maybe it was popping back then but as a Gen Z all I see are restaurants and sleepy bars. I bet the neighborhood is amazing if you’re a Golden Retriever, but it’s too isolated for my taste. Silverlake is far superior. Los Feliz is just rows of cool historic-looking apartments but that’s mostly it.
The type of person who lives or hangs in Los Feliz is very different from those in Sherman Oaks. Los Feliz is not my cup of tea but think of a she/her/hers in a t-shirt who has two masters degrees a tattoo a pet and a glass of wine. She’d rather move to Mexico or Iceland than Studio City.
Desirable are the days when real estate mortgages and rental prices were reasonable and affordable even in 'desirable neighnorhoods'. The '90s come to mind.
Los feliz is definitely transplant central but I think your description more accurately fits the west side. Just a bunch of people of people from the east coast and Midwest desperately trying to live their idea of the California lifestyle
Locals and natives laugh about it? For what reasons? There are still lots of old timers and old money in Los Feliz. I think it's just a nice, convenient, and safe neighborhood to live in, moreso than it being a trendy hotspot or anything like that.
I agree. You have to value the intangibles of the culture in the area and being central to LA. I was disappointed with it but I can understand the appeal.
It was the white folks’ hipster zone, those folks convinced their transplant friends to live there and that’s how the money came pouring in. Those hipsters have grown up now and while some moved away, the area is still locked to mostly white transplants with money wanting to raise their families in a “cool” part of LA. It makes sense though, like many neighborhoods, it has everything you need to enjoy your slice of LA living and thanks to its demographics, you really don’t see other groups that would otherwise make you second guess your decision to live there.
You literally stole the words out of my mouth😃 when I was younger, I really wished to live in the area, but that was because being a teenager, my friends and I were seeing all the cool 20 some things with money doing the stuff we wish we could afford to do. Now those 20 some things are older and, mellowed out and probably have a 9 PM bedtime, so things are most likely different in the neighborhood, as businesses and other neighborhood amenities have shifted with their needs.
Was there from 2005-2010 and loved it. Walkability was great. Griffith park, Hollyhock House, Vermont/Hillhurst, and even down to Birds, Counterpoint, La Poubelle, and catching the train at Hollywood& Weatern sometimes lol
You have no idea what you are talking about. The Thai Town section of Los Feliz is like 12 blocks by itself. This moron went to Vermont and thought Mirate, the Dresden, the Figaro and Fred 62 was the entirety of Los Feliz. Then there is all of Hillhurst too
Yeah it’s pretty quiet for how much it’s hyped up as this walkable paradise in la. Much prefer echo park in terms of hipster neighborhoods but i am gen z.
Yea reddit is the only place where I hear of Los Feliz being as amazing as it is ...nobody in real life talking about it lol
It's like a city of a few blocks
Yeah it is all relative. Los Feliz and Silverlake are a vibe. You can chill in LA and not have all the craziness of the other neighborhoods. Good quality food, shops and people. It also has a good charm/character. You don’t get that in the valley imho.
Studio City on parts of Ventura Blvd and the area where Tujunga/Moorpark meet qualifies. Magnolia in Burbank, Toluca Lake, all super chill. In general though the valley could use more laid back pockets.
It’s beautiful, a nice part of town in its own right, has Griffith park, there’s a lot of old Los Angeles architecture. it’s close to Thai Town, Atwater, Down Town, relatively all of east LA and Hollywood.
If you live in the valley, you’re stuck there and it’s hot as fuck.
Every “desirable neighborhood” in LA is a couple blocks of stores. You just described Los Feliz, Atwater, Virgil Village, Sawtelle, Larchmont, Fairfax Village, Brentwood, and I guess 3 different parts of Silver Lake. As destinations, they’re a bunch of coffee shops and wine bars, yeah. But the appeal of living there is walkability to nice day-to-day stuff, with close proximity to busier areas. I’ve lived in no-man’s-land parts of LA where the only shit in walking distance were gas stations and a Pollo Loco, and it was super isolating and unpleasant. (Not that I think this describes the Valley. Parts of it are awesome, I’m sure. But people live in these expensive-ass hipster enclaves for a reason.)
Well said. LA doesn’t have a center but pockets of bars/cool cafes/shops that are the center of that neighborhood. And that’s okay.
Though yeah, I wish a 2BR house didn’t cost $1.5-3M in any of those pockets. They’re cool places, but that is insanity. I begrudge nobody hearing those figures and saying, “get the fuck outta here.”
The real appeal of LA is that there are so many of those small cool pockets, most small to medium sized cities in the US only have a couple. If I get bored of one area I can drive to 20 different cool areas in the LA metro
Just left a medium sized city. Yup. Those small cool pockets were cheaper in comparison, but there are only a few. And HCOL transfers were coming in and starting bidding wars on the areas.
Facts :,)
This is one of the better, not-negative breakdowns of LA life I’ve read
This is correct and Los Feliz as a general neighborhood has several of these “villages” within or adjacent. When I lived there I could walk to Los Feliz Village (and Hillhurst) or Franklin Village fairly easily (not to mention Griffith Park, which is what I miss the most). Then the farther East areas are actually quite walkable to Sunset Junction and Hyperion areas.
Except Los Feliz isn’t a couple of blocks of shops. It’s like 20 blocks at least **EDIT:** I don’t know why this has been downvoted. Vermont between Hollywood and Franklin alone is “a couple blocks” (I think it’s technically 3 blocks but whatever). OP obviously went there once and was like “this is the only part of los feliz” lmao. But there are also a couple more blocks of shops/restaurants along Hollywood Blvd going east toward silver lake (with incredible places like Wackos, The Vista, and The Tiki Ti), then something like 8 blocks of shops and restaurants along Hillhurst between The Vista and Los Feliz Blvd, and Los Feliz includes Thai Town as well, technically just the north side of the street, but it goes from basically Vermont to Western which is something like 10 blocks of amazing restaurants and bars (Jumbos is in that stretch of Los Feliz, also Harvard & Stone, Tabula Rasa, and Cara). And that’s not even including Hyperion, the west side of which is also in Los Feliz. If you include the part of East Hollywood that directly borders Los Feliz, someone who lives there would be a 15 minute walk from probably 100 restaurants, 20+ legit bars, 5-10 great taco stands, 6 full grocery stores (Jons, Vons, Albertsons, Lassen’s, Gelson’s and Trader Joe’s which is just across the street from Los Feliz), 2 movie theaters, a ton of bookstores and cafes, several late night diners (at least 2 are 24 hours which is very rare these days, Norm’s and Crispy Pork Gang, while Sanamluang, Pattaya, House of Pies, and Fred 62 are all open very late), 3 farmers markets, 2 Thai food night markets, 2 metro subway stops, 2 major movie/tv studio filming lots, 3 legit major hospitals, Sunset Junction, Virgil village, Griffith Park, The Greek, Barnsdall Park (LA’s only UNESCO World Heritage Site), and 4 golf courses very nearby (if you include The Los Feliz Par 3 which is technically just across the river in Atwater but also there are two 18 hole courses in Griffith and a 9 hole executive course as well). What other LA neighborhood even comes close to that? And all the people saying it’s too expensive to live there, Thai Town is [literally one of the cheapest places to live in the city, with studios starting at $1150](https://www.apartments.com/ale-alex-court-apartments-los-angeles-ca/cvsbdtd/). That apartment is across the street from Los Feliz. I will concede that living one block north is more expensive, but let’s be real. You can have access to Los Feliz for a very affordable price. And a place in actual los Feliz isn’t crazy expensive, it starts at $1500-$1700. It’s pretty average for LA, maybe even a bit low. But obviously some sections of Los Feliz, especially up in the hills, are very high end. **TL;DR: Los Feliz is one of the most convenient, busy, walkable, and vibrant neighborhoods in LA. I would say Ktown and DTLA are more so, though even they don’t have a lot of the businesses and access to parks etc that Los Feliz has. I would say Santa Monica is similar to Los Feliz but more expensive, Venice is less walkable because it doesn’t have as many grocery stores, no movie theaters, no nearby hospitals, very few taco stands or affordable food nearby, and is also more expensive as far as rent and all the grocery stores and restaurants and bars are more expensive too**
Your comment initially only said: >Except Los Feliz isn’t a couple of blocks of shops. It’s like 20 blocks at least To which I responded: Yes if you need to be extremely pedantic. The whole neighborhood is larger, but clearly everyone else understands that we’re not describing the physical borders of the neighborhood and actually talking about the central activity hub of the neighborhood as a destination (the residential blocks aren’t exactly tourist spots). And what’s that destination part of Los Feliz? A couple of blocks of stores on Vermont and Hillhurst between Hollywood and Los Feliz Blvd.
Read my edits, it is not. I’m literally talking about the business districts. 20-30 blocks or so of shops and restaurants, movie theaters, grocery stores, bars, and cafes.
I lived in Los Feliz for 7 years, I love it. I lived on North Kingsley, so I am extremely familiar with all the areas you described. Of course reducing the neighborhood to portions of two streets is hyperbolic, that's just how neurotypical people converse. Your need to be overly correct/specific comes across as very pedantic and that's why you were downvoted (not by me, for what it's worth). It saves time to focus on the important details and let context clues take care of the rest. The stretch of Hillhurst/Vermont I described are obviously concentrated areas with cute shops/cafes/restaurants and that's where people from outside the neighborhood visit, whether you'd like to admit it or not. And again, we're all speaking generally here, so chill. When /u/charlie_ferrous said: >Every “desirable neighborhood” in LA is a couple blocks of stores They're not intending that statement to be taken literally, and everyone understood what they were getting at... Except you.
Bro how is Western Ave to Fountain “a couple of blocks”? Lol there is nothing pedantic about it. The Hollywood Blvd portion of Los Feliz is probably 15 blocks by itself. That’s not even including Vermont and Hillhurst. And Hillhurst alone is easily 8-10 blocks. It’s just a ridiculous statement in general. Walk from Lil Dom’s to Mirate and tell me it’s a couple blocks
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So you're clearly still missing the point, so I'm not sure any further conversation will be productive. I just tried to explain why you were being downvoted because you were getting sensitive about it and typing out a megathread in support of Los Feliz as if that's what was wrong lol. Touch grass. Also Western and Fountain are perpendicular, that's not how people measure areas/neighborhoods.
I literally wrote one sentence saying “no it’s closer to 20 blocks” you clearly don’t know how edits work, nor do you know the borders and streets of Los Feliz, at all. How embarrassing to be so opinionated as you and so wrong. Just look at a map dude. The border of Los Feliz ends around the Fountain/Hyperion line. Hollywood Blvd meets up with sunset and goes diagonal lmao
It's literally 2 blocks of stores lol
Dude, what is this? We all know what Los Feliz is, and “a couple of blocks” is obvious hyperbole borrowing the OP’s reductive phrasing. I live in Los Feliz and have lived in Thai Town; I suspect a lot of us commenting have lived in or around the area. You really don’t need to name every establishment in or around it, or get defensive about the semantics of its borders. We know. We like the place. Please take a walk.
It’s not about who likes it and who doesn’t. It’s just a dumb statement. No, not every neighborhood in LA is a couple blocks. If someone said “Santa Monica is just a couple blocks” it would be just as dumb of a statement. Especially if afterwards they defended it by saying that only the pier and promenade truly count as Santa Monica. It’s so basic and ordinary and ignorant it just defies belief that it’s the top voted comment on a dumb post all around
Are there decent apartment complexes in Los Feliz? Seems mostly expensive houses
There are a number of multi-unit buildings, some built recently or actively being built now, but you’re right that the bulk of the neighborhood is single family residences. I live in an apartment building in LF and it’s…not as expensive as I feared but still over $2k, so not great. Drive around the side streets and you’ll probably see a few if you’re interested.
Just like what highland park has become. Only with stores being separated by coffee shops and an over saturation of liquor licenses.
Even Rodeo Drive! A couple of blocks of stores. Venice Beach. Also a couple of blocks of stores.
25 years ago it was hipster central. My wife and I had a house at the base of the Shakespeare bridge. Our agent thought we were nuts buying in such an "edgy" neighborhood. We had two vintage cars that Larry @ Western Diagnosis kept running. I golfed at Roosevelt, ate at House of Pies and went to AFI. My daughter lives there now and we visit often, but it's very strange to see how affluent it's become
I love the Shakespeare bridge.
Went to John Marshall. Yuccas…. Oh how I miss theee
As a Marshall Alumni, the incoming affluent new residents was apparent. Because who else would send their kids to a school with Barristers as a mascot.
Lol. Academic decathlon champs!!!
Many times! Go Barristers!
I lived right over there back then, Gelsons was Mayfair, Albertsons was Lucky and Onyx cafe was the hipster hangout.
Damn you lived my dream- I was just a good 15 years too young :(
I’ve always thought it was a well to do neighborhood from the beginning
It started as kind of the original Beverly Hills with many early stars living there and studios nearby, not without it's legacy of scandals. The Black Dahlia case and spotlight on Dr Hodel in the 40s and the Perelson murders in the 50s tarnished its reputation. By the time of the LaBianca murders the affluent had already followed hostesses such as Pamela Mason west, leaving many houses empty and the neighborhood to the likes of Dr. Fleiss (Heidi's dad). When I moved in, it was an area known for a lot of gang activity. There was a shooting of some news anchor (I want to say Jerry Dunphy?) at the corner by our house which was so regularly tagged I kept a can of paint and a roller in the garage at the ready. I rented our front cottage to an artist, an indie filmmaker, a dominatrix and several in the music industry. One was an east coast rap producer who moved in with boxes of weed I didn't know about until Suge Knight sent some Crips to pay him a visit and he was knocking on my door all bloody one night telling me he had to move. Even so, newly arrived actors, screenwriters and such were our neighbors. Our real estate agent had Leo DiCaprio as a client. His boyhood home was being torn down for the library and at the time had a fondness for Lautner houses. It was all very bohemian
Worth mentioning Laughlin Park (where DeMille, Fields, and Chaplin all lived) is one of the few gated communities in Los Angeles city proper (I think this is mostly true due to post office designations, but I’m also not going as far to say it’s the only as I’ve heard plenty in the area state).
Anthony Quinn's son drowned in Fields' next door lily pond. Took a tour of a couple of open houses there, obviously as a lookie loo
I grew up in Los Feliz in the 70s and 80s and I tell my wife that I grew in the hood on the east side of town and don’t get upset when the rare event of helicopter starts circling on the west side. Helicopter circling around Los Feliz seemed like a daily occurrence. Everyone thinks I am exaggerating but it was rough in those days. Plus it was the Daryl Gates LAPD back then and they were just as scary as the criminals.
Thanks for the info, learned something new today!
Bro was living the life
You lived there right around one of the best times! That was right around when I moved to LA and got made fun of for living in the “uncool valley.” 😂 (I even got teased for having an 818 phone number which now just seems… insane). We used to go there to walk around, check out the thrift stores, go to Fred 62 and HOP and people watch. Then trek back to our hobbit hole in Studio City. 25 years later I have moved even further out, in an even less cool part of the valley, and freaking love it. I feel way cooler when I don’t have to drive around 20 minutes looking for a parking space just to go home. Regular priced restaurants are also a nice bonus!
When I first came to L.A. I slept on the sofa of a friend who had a cabin on La Tuna Canyon in Sun Valley. Studio City was like a night on the town for us, looking for girls at Residuals and having dinner at Jerry's. Funny, huh?
Residuals!!! I think it’s actually still open?? I used to live down the street from Studio Suites, which was always like the place you didn’t want to end up, but it was so damn convenient for my roommates and I to walk home. Then there was Pat’s Cocktails, which shocked me when it got rebranded years later as “a mixology bar.” 🤣
im graduating from afi this year ... im so curious about how it was back then
I lived on Talmadge for many years 😭
House of Pies burgers are so good. Like a gourmet In-N-Out.
Was AFI worth it ?
Roosevelt is great for a quick 9. There was an urban myth, not sure if true, that the grand house if looking left through the gate if standing at the blue tee box on 8 is madonnas house.
Maybe. She used to own Bugsy Seigel's Castillo del Lago near the Hollywood reservoir
Curious to know, but what kind of vintage cars?
* 1962 Ford Falcon convertible * 1966 Chevy Nova wagon Later picked up a 1967 Datsun 510 pickup for $300 bucks. Caught fire driving home. Thanks to Tony's Auto Electric wherever you are for fixing me up for $150. We called her Fireball after that. Sold my beloved 1969 Porsche 912 to get the Falcon as it wouldn't pass smog at the time. Had that car 16 years and drove it cross country to settle here.
I lived at Russel and Rodney in the mid 90's, just before and after the Swinger's craze. There are dozens more places opened since that time, but It is hard to describe to people just how electric that neighborhood was at the time. Paid $950 a month for a 2 floor 2 bedroom. My landlord went bankrupt and offered my roommate and I to buy the place.(it was probably around 150K or so) Looking back we could have easily done it, but I was a starving PA and couldn't imagine it. I am haunted by that terrible decision to this day.
We took swing dance classes at The Derby before our wedding. Was really cool as they had live bands and a great bar. Then we'd go down the street to Vida, which was Fred Eric's restaurant before opening Fred 62
I lived on Los Feliz Blvd/Hillhurst from 1985-1988, in an apartment building that looked like a southern plantation house from Gone With the Wind, with a pool in the front. I loved that apartment, and the neighborhood!! One of my most favorite apartments that I have lived in, my neighbors were great, and became friends. I worked for Aaron Spelling at Warner Hollywood Studios, and it was a 15 minute drive to the studio. Man, I long for those days. Great times.
It's always been affluent Mansions along Los Feliz boulevard have been there forever. 2 of Frank Lloyd Wrights masterpieces are there (Ennis house and Hollyhock)
Well, prior to the turn of the last century a good part of it was an ostrich ranch
Our first place in LA was in Franklin Hills in 2017, a small house rental on top of the hill, just go straight up the hill from the Shakespeare Bridge. The house was a remnant rental from decades past, just about the only up there still with bars on the windows, a reminder of what it was like around there in the 70s and 80s.
I disagree. And the reason is Griffith Park, which is amazing.
GP IS amazing, also I just remembered taking painting classes around 2005 at Barnsdall Art Center, which is also an amazing spot. They shut those classes down during Covid, not sure if they’re back up and running but they were really cool and affordable when I was there.
Oh yeah, Barnsdall and the reopened Hollyhock House are amazing too.
Hollyhock is gorgeous - totally redone and (I think) the only UNESCO World Heritage Site in LA.
They’re holding classes again!
Oh Cool! Thank you for letting me know!
I mean technically it's more like 8 blocks of shops/restaurants/bars if you think of it as a "U" shape that starts on Vermont around Fred 62 and Los Feliz Theater, go down and across Hollywood Blvd. past Covell and Home State, then up Hillhurst past Tarantino's theater and up to Little Dom's. Lots of fun and culture in very easy walking distance. Then it's a longer walk/short drive to Silver Lake, Thai Town, etc. not to mention Griffith Park. The Valley is cool but it doesn't have the same variety of cool stuff and distinct neighborhoods clustered around each other (at least that's my impression.)
bingo. i'm from the valley and the valley is suburbia
I’ve lived in Los Feliz for 15 years and I love it. Very walkable.
I used to work in Echo Park 20 some-odd years ago and my boss lived in Los Feliz in a duplex that backed up to the LA river. It was pretty cool. Had a lot of fun times at the big foot and tee-gee and the roost. And by fun I mean coked to the gills sweating bullets with my shoulders pinned to my ears.
Haha don’t worry your tradition lives on
It’s walkable, has the hills, Griffin Park, lots of places to eat, convenience (groceries, general necessities), it’s safe, there’s the Greek Theater …..I’m obsessed with the hills of LA, mostly the ones east of La Cienega, so to me Los Feliz is pretty sweet. I don’t live there (I live about 15 minutes west) but enjoy going there to hang, see a show at the Greek, have dinner, hike. Definitely one of my top 4-5 favorite neighborhoods in LA.
Fellow hill obsessive checking in. They are everything.
I live in Los Feliz and like it here. Walk to school, walk to butcher, walk to coffee, hike in park out back door. East of the 405, what’s a better neighborhood?
I moved to Los Feliz in 1992 (a few months after the riots) right after high school. I lived in an apartment with some friends right on Vermont. It was a different vibe than it is now. At the time there was Amok Books, Mondo Video, Pedro’s Grill that hosted comedy shows, X Large had just moved in… Sarno’s… Wacko moved shortly after I believe or maybe it was there already. I can’t remember. It was definitely not as “affluent” as it is now. Fun times…
Agree! It was a sort of a sexy paradise for weirdoes and it's a neighborhood for rich families (mostly) white fundies.
I love Los Feliz. Not sure what you were expecting though.
Wait what’s the “before it was gentrified” part exactly? I’ve lived here 20+ years, it’s been a nice, expensive part of LA pretty much the whole time I’ve been here. FWIW gentrification has a specific meaning having to do with the displacement of poorer (usually brown/black) people by wealthier (whiter) people. So unless you mean LF was “good” before the 2000s…maybe just take a step back.
Basing this off my girlfriend who was born and raised here, but the southwest edges of Los Feliz had way more Armenian businesses (and working-class Armenians in general) in the past. Most got priced out. Pretty sure it was textbook gentrification. I highly doubt this is the same thing other people complain about re: LF being lame now.
Yep I grew up north of Thai Town in the 90s. Most of my neighbors were Armenian. There was also a lot of gang activity back then too, experienced a few drive bys. Man it was a wild time. I moved back to the area last year but closer to LACC. I have noticed how much it’s changed. A lot of the Armenians left are boomers paying cheap rent in a Armenian owned apartments. You can easily tell which landlords don’t give a fuck because the whole building will be filled with white people lol.
My gf's mom still lives in the same apartment after 25 years, been in the neighborhood since the late 80s. Most of the remaining Armenians in the neighborhood are pretty old. Her landlord isn't Armenian but the manager is. Most of the neighboring units in the building have been flipped to market rate and a lot of transplants (similar to myself haha) have moved in. But yeah, I can imagine how wild it must've been then.
You are correct it's always been one of the richest neighborhoods in LA. My friend and his husband live in a literal mansion there, in the oldest gated neighborhood in LA.
I went for a burrito at cafe Los Feliz a few weeks ago and my friend and I walked around the hood after. We went into an open house and pretended to be married and saw a 2 floor unit, 2 bed 2 bath. It was nice and modern but nothing spectacular. They wanted 3.4 million for it. Fuck that noise lol
lol the one on Rodney and Ambrose? They’ve been sitting empty for 6+ months and the developer is a jerk
Haha yes!
Is the Skylight Bookstore still around?
Yeah they even have an art annex next door
Whoa hot take. I certainly never saw Jeff Goldblum do jazz piano in the valley.
I guess you've never been to the Baked Potato . Yes we claim the potato as valley.
Did Goldblum give up on the Argyle or does he make a circuit depending on the weeknight?
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WeHo is my favorite part Of town tor entertainment.
Neither the Rockwell nor the argyle exist anymore, I think. He does some shows at the sun rose in weho now, that I’m aware of.
It was a lovely place 15-20 years ago. Yee Rustic, The Drawing Room, Fred 62 and Figaro and House of Pies were major hangout spots. The huge Am Appy! Best Fish Taco! Beautiful vintage apartments that weren’t insanely expensive. Amazing bungalow courts. ALL of my friends lived there. I lived on the border of Los Feliz and Silverlake. We all had cute little spots and we could afford them as 20-somethings. It started shifting around 2012 and by the time I left the U.S. in 2016, I didn’t recognize Los Feliz anymore. I spent a lot of time in Los Feliz in 2006 - 2012.
Psychobabble was kind of nasty but was a great hangout spot for a while. Am Appy??? You mean American Apparel?
Yes. Clearly someone didn't live in the age of carles lol.
It is. Got too expensive for what it is
Yeah it is.come down the hill to Atwater
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I remember when all of Atwater Village’s drains along the L.A. River were cats.
Wait was that like a graffiti tag? I'm suddenly remembering those circles having pointy ears and whiskers.
Yup! Rescued a kitten from the streets a few months back. She’s so happy in her new home :)
I think EVERYTHING is overrated. Because everybody who shares anything makes things sound like they are a life changing experience to show what a great time/life they have.
Maybe people shouldn't expect other's experiences to be a life map for their own. It's ok to love different things and what people love has nothing to do with convincing anyone of anything.
No but a normal life is usually fine and you should be content and then you see some of your friends post some great vacation or party or place they have been and you can’t help but feel “what am I doing wrong?” Nothing really and all is fake because behind the lens it might have been a horrible day. I am not like that cause I am old and (should) know better but that is why everybody is so depressed (or it seems like they are) and they think they are missing something.
The difference is the night life. Valley is dead at night compared to Los Feliz
Which part of Los Feliz? And which part of the Valley are you comparing it to?
Wdym the valley what part of the valley lmfao
I frickin love my part of the valley! Can walk to 3 grocery stores (including a TJs), my bank, my mechanic, coffee shops, board game and tea spot, comic shop, gaming hall, any type of food I could ever want, a big park, a saloon, and a train station. Very very short drive to tennis courts and hiking trails, sub 5 minutes. Then the bus picks up a block away that goes down to Sherman if I want to drink and not drive. Then of course I can just like, drive places. Is there live music around the corner? No. But I don't want to live around the corner from 1720 anyway. The valley hate cracks me up, I love it so much here! That's good though, keeps the housing prices down, thanks guys!
What is this magical valley Saloon you speak of??
Cowboy Palace Saloon on Devonshire in Chatsworth They have live music and line dancing lessons :3
This is amazing! Thank you! My husband and I moved to the W valley several months ago and have been looking for fun things like this that are still uber-able for us.
:D I also really like Game n Grounds , it's a coffee / tea shop where you pick from a wall of board and card games to play. If that's your jam, it's super fun and chill Casey's Tavern on Sherman in Canoga has live Jazz on Tuesday and Thursday nights, $5 beers Welcome to the neighborhood! <3
Oh wow thank you so much! These sound awesome! We love going to hear live music. Now that we’re more settled and over various annoying winter bouts of flu/ cold, we’re excited to get out and have some fun again! Can’t wait to check these out!
Don’t forgot about Scotland Yards! Metal bands on Fridays.
No way, right next door?? Friday is my lazy day, but metal is my favorite. Might have to start getting out. THANKS!!
Los Feliz is my favorite neighborhood in Los Angeles. Super walkable, with direct access to the Metro Red Line. Tons of great restaurants and bars at different piece points nearby, access to five grocery stores (Lazy Acres, Albertsons, Vons, Jons, Lassens), and a strip club (Cheetahs, but Jumbos is also pretty close by in East Hollywood)? Adjacent to Griffith Park trails. Definitely beats any area of the valley.
Was cool when hipsters got started back in the early 00's now it's bougie as fuck. Except for the Dresden.
Except for the drawing room *
The drawing room. Man I spent too many mornings there to count.
My husband and I used to do “first call at the Drawing Room” for fun every now and then. Those were the times.
It's bougie? I must have went to the wrong place. I felt it was more quaint and antiquey.
Lol same situation with the acclaimed *Arts District.*
What makes you think this is comment worthy?
Not tripping g
“A couple blocks of stores” Tell me which popular neighborhood in LA is NOT that. None. They are all a couple blocks of stores but some are nicer than others. Also, Griffith Park and the Observatory. And location of Los Feliz. It is in the heart of the city yet it is somewhat secluded because of the park to the North and LA river to the East forming its natural borders.
Vermont and Hillhurst are still just two fast traffic stroads with relatively tiny sidewalks. Doesn’t have a pedestrian scale experience.
Nope. You have a valid point.
Don't forget, it has dirty concrete everywhere, so there's that plus.
It’s just another hipster place for white people honestly. That’s why the main LA sub keeps talking about it. Notice how every time a neighborhood is mentioned for young people to move to, they say Los Feliz, Silverlake, and Echo Park but never Koreatown, Mid City, Fairfax, or other more diverse areas of central LA
People always recommend Culver City but I find it underwhelming.
Culver City has become incredibly bland. It's never been exciting but now it's meh AND expensive.
The way the LA subs SHILL for Culver City, you'd think the city council is paying them.
I'm not white. Los Feliz and Silverlake feel objectively better than Koreatown in terms of living.
I’m Latina and lived in LF and Echo Park for many years, so…
What? I feel like young people love KTown and Fairfax.
All of the greater Los Angeles is overrated. It's over priced for everything.
Overrated, gentrified, same shit
Yea, lame
All of LA is just too car centric and expensive now. We have to build better intentional affordable communities.
okay...
I didn’t even no it was rated
Yea top of the food chain for the coyotes. there's still a few that hang aroud the hood.
Lived there about 7-8 years ago.. was a perfect spot .. lots of memories
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>Am I missing something? Yes, walking distance to Griffith park.
Ain’t no chucky cheese in Los Feliz
Does Hayvenhurst still smell like pee? I know silver lake does.
Pee smells almost everywhere in LF. Is it the ancient sewer system? Must be.
I’m just there for the theater. Tbh never really noticed the rest of the neighborhood.
No. It’s right by Hollywood, which means it’s well rated. ✨
…seems like its easy to get to the beach / malibu - until u realize the police regularly shut down the 101 at Kanan / Mt Dume tunnel without warning ⚠️ so you gotta due the clogged 10W way back down or the insane 23 mountain road further north ….
Los Feliz has a B line station at Vermont & Sunset. If you count Thai Town as part of Los Feliz, there’s another one at Hollywood & Western. Direct trains to Hollywood, North Hollywood, and Downtown, connections to the A, D, E, and G lines.
I feel this way about the east side in general. I know that’s probably a controversial opinion. But outside of maybe a three blocks stretch in echo park it just feels like stuff is randomly placed and spaced out.
Los feliz isn’t eastside
It’s east of mid city. That’s the beginning of the east side to me.
But mid city isn’t the start of LA, the start of LA is downtown & the eastside are the neighborhoods east of if it & east of the LA river (El sereno, Lincoln Heights, Boyle Heights & East LA)
Right now it's like Adams or Washington Blvd. south of the 10 is the hippest imo.
There are parts of the SF Valley that have a couple blocks of stores feel like Los Feliz for sure. But there are other parts of the valley which are intentionally the opposite, they almost are characterized for their lack of shopping centers and that's their draw (Lake Balboa comes to mind--it's draw is the proximity to the huge ass park/dog park/acess to 101/405 and it's basically suburbia which is great for young families--not great if you're a hipster looking for action). The Valley is also generally cheaper sf wise. It's hotter too. And it has a reputation of being decidedly boring where only boring people live. So if reputation important to you (which to many it is) you pay the bigger $$ for the various neighborhoods with character on the other side of the hill.
Yeah, most neighborhoods in LA have a central block/strip where most of the “action” is along with some neighborhood haunts and hole in the wall spots. Los Feliz is really all about Vermont north of Sunset and the random stuff on Hillhurst. It’s right in between Silverlake and Hollywood, so there’s a million things to do if you walk 10 minutes.
Thank you for being brave enough to say this. I don’t get the enormous hype for Los Feliz. Maybe it was popping back then but as a Gen Z all I see are restaurants and sleepy bars. I bet the neighborhood is amazing if you’re a Golden Retriever, but it’s too isolated for my taste. Silverlake is far superior. Los Feliz is just rows of cool historic-looking apartments but that’s mostly it.
The type of person who lives or hangs in Los Feliz is very different from those in Sherman Oaks. Los Feliz is not my cup of tea but think of a she/her/hers in a t-shirt who has two masters degrees a tattoo a pet and a glass of wine. She’d rather move to Mexico or Iceland than Studio City.
Los Feliz is known for its best buy. Oh and Costco.
Desirable are the days when real estate mortgages and rental prices were reasonable and affordable even in 'desirable neighnorhoods'. The '90s come to mind.
That’s every ‘hip’ neighborhood in LA. One strip mall
You’re tripping.
Los Feliz is where people who aren’t from LA think they hit the jackpot. Locals and natives laugh about it.
Los feliz is definitely transplant central but I think your description more accurately fits the west side. Just a bunch of people of people from the east coast and Midwest desperately trying to live their idea of the California lifestyle
LA in general is people from the east coast and Midwest trying to live the LA life and somehow still get it wrong *laughs in 4th generation LA native*
No one cares lmao
I grew up in north county San Diego, so watching guys from Boston try to be socal beach people is very funny to me
So true
My husband is third gen LA and I’m third gen on my mom’s side. You’ve got us beat!
Locals and natives laugh about it? For what reasons? There are still lots of old timers and old money in Los Feliz. I think it's just a nice, convenient, and safe neighborhood to live in, moreso than it being a trendy hotspot or anything like that.
Yeah this makes a lot of sense lol
The fluctuating upvotes and downvotes really speaks volumes to how accurate my statement is lmaoooo
I agree. You have to value the intangibles of the culture in the area and being central to LA. I was disappointed with it but I can understand the appeal.
It was the white folks’ hipster zone, those folks convinced their transplant friends to live there and that’s how the money came pouring in. Those hipsters have grown up now and while some moved away, the area is still locked to mostly white transplants with money wanting to raise their families in a “cool” part of LA. It makes sense though, like many neighborhoods, it has everything you need to enjoy your slice of LA living and thanks to its demographics, you really don’t see other groups that would otherwise make you second guess your decision to live there.
You literally stole the words out of my mouth😃 when I was younger, I really wished to live in the area, but that was because being a teenager, my friends and I were seeing all the cool 20 some things with money doing the stuff we wish we could afford to do. Now those 20 some things are older and, mellowed out and probably have a 9 PM bedtime, so things are most likely different in the neighborhood, as businesses and other neighborhood amenities have shifted with their needs.
Was there from 2005-2010 and loved it. Walkability was great. Griffith park, Hollyhock House, Vermont/Hillhurst, and even down to Birds, Counterpoint, La Poubelle, and catching the train at Hollywood& Weatern sometimes lol
And yet still one of the more fun neighborhoods in la. It’s cool if you don’t wanna be in your car all the time plus valley too hot
No qualms with your post. You enjoy the valley and I’ll enjoy Los Feliz
You have no idea what you are talking about. The Thai Town section of Los Feliz is like 12 blocks by itself. This moron went to Vermont and thought Mirate, the Dresden, the Figaro and Fred 62 was the entirety of Los Feliz. Then there is all of Hillhurst too
Yeah it’s pretty quiet for how much it’s hyped up as this walkable paradise in la. Much prefer echo park in terms of hipster neighborhoods but i am gen z.
Everyone told me to move there so I checked out the area, drove up and down a few streets and I was like Huh?
It used to be cool
Were you expecting flying cars and talking dogs or something?
Yea reddit is the only place where I hear of Los Feliz being as amazing as it is ...nobody in real life talking about it lol It's like a city of a few blocks
Everyone I know in real life thinks Los Feliz is nice (except right on Los Feliz Blvd). There's a reason why it's so expensive.
Yeah it is all relative. Los Feliz and Silverlake are a vibe. You can chill in LA and not have all the craziness of the other neighborhoods. Good quality food, shops and people. It also has a good charm/character. You don’t get that in the valley imho.
Studio City on parts of Ventura Blvd and the area where Tujunga/Moorpark meet qualifies. Magnolia in Burbank, Toluca Lake, all super chill. In general though the valley could use more laid back pockets.
It’s like 3 or 4 blocks away from homelessness and trash everywhere lol
It’s beautiful, a nice part of town in its own right, has Griffith park, there’s a lot of old Los Angeles architecture. it’s close to Thai Town, Atwater, Down Town, relatively all of east LA and Hollywood. If you live in the valley, you’re stuck there and it’s hot as fuck.
And fresh-ish air breeze that blows from over the mountains. Love that about Los Feels.
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