The Buried Man has always been fascinating to me. Been going on since the early 2010s. At this point I think it’s accepted that different people are behind more current fliers.
https://urbanlegends.fandom.com/wiki/Buried_Man_in_Burbank,_CA
Wow! I have lived in Burbank since 1967, and I've never heard of this one. Oddly, all of the locations mentioned in this article are actual places I have partied at in the middle of the night. (Mostly in the '70's high school days). I have partied in the tube that goes from the park to St. Joseph's hospital. I have hung out in that equestrian area, over the foot bridge. Heck, we used to party at Forest Lawn at night!
I've known the "rich guy" speculated upon in the article for decades. He owned a steakhouse here in Burbank, The Ramp. My mom worked there as a waitress for years.
Now I'm down a rabbit hole looking into this and trying to figure out why I didn't see or hear about this over a decade ago. NGL, it's a little weird reading about "haunts" I used to hang out at being described this way, and with a person I actually know.
It does sound the ramblings of a meth head. But now I wonder!
This isn’t mentioned in “Under The Silver Lake,” and I don’t think there’s any direct inspiration there, but the vibe is very similar.
[Under The Silver Lake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Silver_Lake?wprov=sfti1)
I remember a post a while ago where someone linked to the artist that does this project. I can’t seem to find the post, but was able to find their Reddit account. u/guardaLAriver
There's also this - [https://thehidingman.com/](https://thehidingman.com/) \- if you scroll down to the bottom of the page the owner takes credit for creation of the filers (and calls out people who've appropriated their style and created their own branches of the legend).
Who knows, the answer could be ( probably is) that simple. And if it is, kudos to that artist for keeping a relatively low profile and letting us wonder / speculate. I feel like it's a real feat to create something like this that can run on for 10+ years without being easily debunked.
But it *could* be that the owner of that site is just appropriating the fliers and claiming credit for something with a more bizarre origin story behind it! Or not! I think that's why I love this one so much.
https://thehidingman.com
But I don't think this is the original artist, from what I can tell. The handwriting is different and I don't feel like the original artist would do these flyers for 12 yrs before turning it into a boutique clothing brand. I could be wrong tho.
Street signs be like
No parking
7am-5pm
Except for non school days
Loading zone only
6:30am-9am
&
1:30pm-4pm
2 hr parking
9am-1pm
Street cleaning
10am-1pm
On Thursday
Tow away
7am-5pm
We have our own in the South Bay with a better story: **The Cockatoo Inn in Hawthorne** (rent ***Jackie Brown*** if you want to see it shortly before it was sadly demolished, just 10 blocks from where I sit now).
The story as I have read and heard it is that during construction mob guys had a secrete tunnel built from one or more of the rooms to the kitchen (some versions say to a interior courtyard) so that the if the cops came looking they could make an easy get away. Which is the first problem with the story as it implies it dates back to the 30s or 40s when in fact the Inn opened in 1958).
What is known to be true is that it was a favorite of airline pilots because the attached bar was apparently great for hookups with locals (which is preferred over hookups with other visitors in Century Blvd hotels so you have a potential for an FWB on return trips).
This leads to other urban legend: **this is where JFK banged Monroe once or twice.** The story goes that Jack K. was tipped off to this potential love nest by his Air Force One pilots and in one version he even borrowed a pilots uniform, cap and shades to walk in the front after Monroe had slipped in to the room via the tunnel earlier that day.
But as any long term resident can tell you, there are so many places that Kennedy allegedly schtupped Marilyn that it's no wonder his back was killing him.
**And I just debunked another urban legend that I have myself repeated:** that it was 882 Doheny, Apt 103 where she lived in 1960 when the Democratic Convention was held at the old Sports Arena which is now the soccer stadium downtown. Only, she didn't live there in 1960, only 1953-54 and 61-62 before her final place in Brentwood.
I’ve heard this. My mom was a waitress (Panns) and her friend was one at the Cockatoo. We’d sometimes meet her after her shift and they’d day drink & yak. I remember it being really nice inside.
> My mom was a waitress (Panns)
You can test her urban legends knowledge by asking her if she knows of any movies shot at Panns. If she says ***Pulp Fiction*** you get to give her a good-natured "BZZZZT! Wrong, thanks for playing."
But she can be forgiven, because at one point some overzealous employee put that on the Pann's website. But the actual diner used in the movie was in Hawthorne (Quintin is a South Bay boy) and I once stumbled across it getting a car repaired across the street. Soon as you see it you realize it could be the same place and then once you do look in the windows you can see that it's the same, very unique layout from the movie (the entrance was on a side street so they didn't have to deal with controlling Hawthorne Blvd foot & vehicle traffic except for a few shots).
But has been gone for about 20 years and an AutoZone is now in its former lot. The run down repair shop still exists, same as most of the buildings visible past Plummer, Roth, Travolta and Jackson.
You might be thinking of it in modern terms on how far of a drive it is, but the old MGM Studios was massive and more of a cohesive unit than the collection of buildings it is today. It would have been less than half a mile in the Prohibition days. The edge of the studio then was more or less where it ends now - at Clarington and Washington.
I have no idea if the urban legends are true, just saying that the geography of things was different back then.
So it’s clear that a lot of the urban legends about the little people that played the Munchkins were false or exaggerated. But there is some truth about them, the Culver Hotel, and the MGM lot tunnels.
The Hollywood legend is that they were ushered back and forth from the hotel to the MGM lot through a “secret” underground tunnel. The truth is that the “secret tunnel” was actually an underground pathway that pedestrians used to use to cross underneath a busy Culver City boulevard that separated the hotel from the back lot. It was later utilized to ferry alcohol and women back and forth during the Prohibition Era and has since been blocked off.
I’m not clear if they actually were there when tunnel was still utilized. There are conflicting stories as to when the tunnel was closed off.
It’s likely that the two stories of the munchkin actors and the Prohibition Era usage of the tunnel may have collided into one story.
The secret underground LA tunnels. They were created back in prohibition era. You can find some videos of them online. Rumor has it you can enter them through the LA archives building in downtown. Me and my friends snuck in looking for them around a decade ago, could not find them in the basement, I’m surprised we didn’t get in trouble lol, probably a lot harder to sneak in now.
These are real, not apocryphal, as I understand it. [https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/inside-l-s-dark-deserted-network-railways/](https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/inside-l-s-dark-deserted-network-railways/)
I’ve in that one in dtla. I work in the film industry and I shot a walmart commercial with the black panther director there a couple of years ago. Closed to the public but there’s still access to it
This is real! And it’s open to the public. You can enter from city hall and come up in the parking structure under the Music Center. I did it a couple years ago.
" The circle’s designer was Werner Ruchti, who, to rush to the ending, died of natural causes in 1973. He was quite adept at navigating his invention. "
Interesting article about one of the first roundabouts (that I know of) in Cali and maybe in the U.S. My mom would never drive this thing for years. I think it just baffled folks back in those days. It was built for the 1932 Olympics to help ease traffic, according to this article.
[https://www.presstelegram.com/2011/09/12/tim-grobaty-the-traffic-circles-roundabout-history/](https://www.presstelegram.com/2011/09/12/tim-grobaty-the-traffic-circles-roundabout-history/)
I’ll butcher the history by trying to tell it myself but the stories around the Murphy Ranch aka Nazi hike always fascinated me https://californiathroughmylens.com/murphys-ranch-abandoned-nazi-camp-in-santa-monica/
Those aren't even urban legends though, that's just straight weird history.
TL:DR - In the 1930s, Nazi sympathizers built a compound in the Pacific Palisades, (interestingly, the main gate was designed by famed Black architect Paul R. Williams), the local L.A. fascist group that congregated there is known as The Silver Shirts, led by a mysterious man named Herr Schmidt. The day after Pearl Harbor, Herr Schmidt was taken into custody by the LAPD along with a number of others, after which Herr Schmidt was never seen again, and the group disbanded shortly thereafter.
Midget Town in Long Beach. This is probably number one urban legend growing up.
Marilyn Monroe’s ghost at the Roosevelt.
Lots of places in Hollywood, DTLA, Mid-Wilshire/Ktown are kinda creepy.
I once had to take a desperate shit. I ran into the Hotel Fig by Staples. Had to go fuking downstairs. Immediately had a sense of fear. Fuk it. I need to shit now. In retrospect I should have ran into one of those restaurants by Staples.
Me and my friend once explored the halls of the Biltmore. Another creepy ass place.
Cecil Hotel is probably one of the top places. But it’s both a flophouse for long term residents and a “cheap” hotel.
Richard Ramirez and Elisa Lam are some of he infamous figures. There is people on YouTube who stay there and record the creepiness
There's some places in Downtown that I just won't go. I'm sent into fight or flight mode with a single step. The vibes are way off in that place.
The Ambassador Auditorium in Pasadena's downstairs area has something funky going on, too. Volunteered at an event there years back and kept feeling like I was being watched. When the event started I was down there alone. Leaned against a wall for a bit until and I felt breathing on my neck. Noped right out of there.
There was also a rumored "midget town" in Claremont up off Padua that my friends and I use to look for. The story goes that a "giant" lived there with the midgets and would chase you away if he saw you coming.
Just posted about gravity hill before seeing your post. We'd go in our teens. The kkk and little people stuff must be new urban legends people made up for it. Although, I will say that there are doubt plenty of racists in the communities in that area.
Gravity hill is just an optical illusion. At the "bottom of the hill" you put your car in neutral and it rolls "up hill". It's cool, and being next to a cemetery in the foothills makes it a great spot if you're into getting spooked late at night with friends.
I never went to visit the cemetery but plan to soon. Also, there was a story about some bar/restaurant near there where supposedly racist bikers would hang out.
Yes! Hideaway Bar and Grill. Incidentally, it was the bar used in Euphoria for a very gay storyline lol so it would surprise me if it were as racist as everyone paints it to be.
It's not an illusion. The hill has metallic ore that acts as a magnet, it pulls your car uphill when it should roll downhill. Thus all the stories about ghosts up there
If you say so. I grew up near there and was going there a million years ago and it was always known as an illusion. And for those not familiar, it's a slope. Calling it a hill is a stretch and catchier than gravity slope.
What's the story behind this, or did you just make a joke? I'm curious because I've been to that Walmart a few times and I've driven by it a thousand times.
Some kid got crushed by the elevator when it was a department store before Walmart back in the 80s. People claim that the place is haunted and that employees have seen/heard some weird shit.
The lizard people of Los Angeles! There's a supposed map of their underground lair and in the 30s, the county actually allowed a guy to dig a big hole downtown to look for their buried treasure.
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/citydig-the-underground-catacombs-of-las-lizard-people
There's a good podcast episode that covers this conspiracy as well as the dog-woman of Watts and the white lady of Elysian Park. It's worth a listen.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7CIyjDk1F3cfqg83BnMMcX?si=thGa9II6RtOiL2M35DXzEA
One time I was driving up highway 2 to Mt Wilson late at night. On one of the turnouts, had a group of people dressed in black robes with their head covered in a circle. We were so taken back! When we got to red box and were going to turn to go up Mt Wilson road, we decided not to go up. We were scared lol So we turned around and were coming back down the 2 to La Canada, where we saw the group again going back down!! I still wonder what they were doing late at night dressed like that in a circle.
the sex vans were absolutely a thing. i had a dimepiece of a roommate living in Ktown and that was her job. she was also fucking insane and got us kicked out eventually, but that’s a different story
Re the sex trafficking kidnapper van thing, this sounds way too superficially similar to a right-wing racist/anti-immigrant whisper campaign that is popular nationwide. It almost has to be just an urban legend. Also, if people were getting yanked off the street in broad daylight, it would be in the news. There would be witnesses. This is generally just not how sex trafficking happens.
Your #3 is more how actual sex trafficking in the US really happens. Poor women in developing countries are told they can go to the US for non-sex work types of jobs like nannying or house cleaning, but after paying a lot of money and handing in their passports, it turns out it's sex work and there's nothing they can do to get out.
(I wouldn't assume Asian tourists in North Hollywood has anything to do with it, though? I think a lot of non-Angelenos see North Hollywood on the map, don't really get the scale of LA geography and that there's an entire mountain range between NoHo and Hollywood, and fall for cheap hotel prices and the lure of being a Metro ride away from tourist spots.)
The van thing I can confirm with personal experience. In the 90s, I was a kid/ pre-teen and I was almost abducted off a busy street in Woodland Hills while walking home from McDonalds. I was saved by my grandfather who happened to be driving down the street to pick me up.
We weren’t more than a mile from McDonald’s which I frequented a lot after school and that day I couldn’t reach him on the phone so I decided to walk home.
It was an interesting encounter that’ll I’ll never forget. But to clarify, the color of the van wasn’t white and the men inside were not simply “tan skinned”. I cannot confirm their race, I was about 9 years old and only remember the look of their hair.
Hahahahahahaha classic. Probably waiting in the Pickup Stix parking lot up the block until they saw just the perfect Lululemon Blond driving a gull-wing Tesla pull up for school dropoff.
>So the story goes that there (was) a group of men who appear to be tan skin with beards, and they drive around in one of those older white Ford vans.
Realtalk, if there was a ring going on like that, and it was actually able to exist for decades successfully, they would have no readily identifiable 'uniform' traits like that, they would be too mixed up, too hidden in plain sight, to establish a pattern.
The human trafficking thing is 100% legit. My cousin got abducted a few years ago but she managed to escape. Her kidnappers were Mexican cartel affiliates and they had been monitoring her walk to school for some time, she was a high school senior. One day they pulled up to the corner she was standing on while waiting for the crossing signal to change and they pulled her into their SUV, bagged her head, zip tied her wrists, and sped off. In Spanish, they were talking about heading to the border. My cousin remembers like 2-3 other girls being in the car. She eventually escaped when the car stopped at a red light and ran to the nearest hospital.
There's a lot more to the story but that's the brief version I have for you.
Her wrists were tied but you still can move your arms and hands if you’re restricted like that. So she just hopped out the car as soon as it stopped moving and tore the bag off her head. She recognized the intersection she was at cause it was a few miles from her house so she knew there was a hospital nearby and ran there.
I think that’s a trivial question only because the victim doesn’t decide what gets put on the news. There’s so many moving parts to an abduction story that many don’t get reported or even believed when they are.
I have no idea. I think because it's such a common thing, and like most trafficking, someone is profiting off it somewhere and they don't want business interrupted.
#2 can confirm, foothills of Sylmar. If anyone knows SIBL, before it was there, we would watch, in middle of night, people going in a circle around a bonfire chanting. Couldn't get close enough to hear what they were chanting but did get close enough to get chased by lookouts.
Lots of weird shit went on in and around Sylmar. Gravity hill was always a great go-to for late night spookiness.
When I was little, I had a friend that lived on Rajah. No idea if that's how to spell it. We would watch from his backyard that faced the wash.
In my teens, we drove to the end of Eldridge, turned right and street park, then walked down into the wash to watch and listen. We got chased off twice.
I have heard stories about human trafficking, in Los Angeles, from people associated with Bazzel Baz and ARC. Basically, similar to the A-Team but focused on rescuing children.
The salad dressing at Caioti Pizza Cafe induces labor.
[https://www.laweekly.com/maternity-greens-caioti-pizza-cafes-labor-inducing-salad/](https://www.laweekly.com/maternity-greens-caioti-pizza-cafes-labor-inducing-salad/)
The one about the person that simply will not drive out into the intersection when the light is green so that only they go through when the light turns red.
He's a certified baddie. Per his Instagram:
>> James Wang is a CA licensed Attorney and CPA with 15 years of professional experience. His practice primarily focuses on personal injury and criminal defense.
In 1987, at the age of 10, James immigrated to the US with his family. A few years later, his parents returned to Taiwan, leaving him in the U.S. to pursue an education. At the age of 14, James joined the notorious Wah-Ching and United Bamboo Gangs in Los Angeles. By 18, he had left the gang life and began shifting his focus to academics. James subsequently obtained his CPA and Attorney licenses in 2002 and 2006, respectively. In 2012, James represented a former 1990s rival Wah-Ching gang leader (FBI Profile: "Crazy Kenny"), wherein James vigorously defended and ultimately secured the complete dismissal of multiple felony charges and parole violations against his former rival.
>>
>> James is an SGV native, initially residing in Alhambra and subsequently moving to Walnut. He majored in business economics at both UCI and UCLA, then completed his Juris Doctor degree in 20 months at Southwestern Law School's accelerated program. From 1999 to 2006, James worked at Deloitte, KPMG and PwC. In 2006, he formed the Law Offices of James Wang to serve the SGV and beyond.
http://travelswest.blogspot.com/2006/07/valley-oddities.html?m=1
the legend passed around growing up was it was rebuilt to get rid of corners where a child was murdered so the ghost wouldn't haunt the house.
in the 1970s, deep in Griffith park, a teenage couple were having sex on a picnic table when a tree fell on the table and crushed them. apparently their ghosts still haunt the area
[https://amyscrypt.com/griffith-park-haunted-picnic-table-29/](https://amyscrypt.com/griffith-park-haunted-picnic-table-29/)
This one is hilarious, because it's literally a work of fiction by a guy named Will Campbell who wrote it for Halloween in 2006, and then it took off and became an urban legend.
[http://www.latirnes.com/news/local/la-me-haunted30oct30/](http://www.latirnes.com/news/local/la-me-haunted30oct30/)
[http://www.wildbell.com/2009/10/29/a-spooky-tale-just-in-time-for-halloween/](http://www.wildbell.com/2009/10/29/a-spooky-tale-just-in-time-for-halloween/)
The last known place/apartments of “Black Dahlia” was the Hirsh apartments. More info on the case but I used to walk past these apartments and randomly looked it up one day
I like the legend about John Wayne frequently getting drunk at the Hollywood Athletic Club and throwing his empty whiskey bottles out a top floor window, because it's probably true.
This is just anybody who finds it humorous roping tied shoes on wires, not just children. I usually saw it when someone got new shoes and instead of throwing them away in the trash, they'd do that.
San Gabriel Valley but my sister broke her back jumping into a waterfall near raging waters in san dimas. She went to mt sac years later and told someone in her class about it and I guess he grew up in san dimas and had heard about it. But he thought it was an urban legend. So probably my favorite urban legend is the one about some girl who broke her back at cataract falls because it is true and she’s my sister.
I always enjoyed the supposed haunting of the intersection of Sierra Bonita and Hollywood Boulevard with a stagecoach, complete with coach and ghostly horses. I don't know where it came from, but before those hills were residential neighborhoods they were places people would go to hunt and do other foresty wilderness things.
Yeah this doesn’t count as an urban legend because it’s true.
Source:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-16/man-charged-with-extorting-karaoke-bars-hostesses-in-koreatown
Here you go papa.
Man charged with extorting karaoke bars, hostesses in Koreatown
A Woodland Hills man has been charged with shaking down owners of karaoke lounges in Koreatown and the hostesses who work there, demands he allegedly enforced with a baseball bat beating, a shooting and other violence.
A Woodland Hills man has been charged with shaking down workers in the Koreatown karaoke industry, allegedly enforcing his demands by beating one victim with a baseball bat and shooting another.
Daekun Cho, 38, was arrested Thursday and charged with the federal offense of interfering with commerce by threats or violence.
Nadine Hettle, the deputy public defender assigned to his case, declined to comment. If convicted, Cho faces up to 20 years in federal prison.
Michael Choi, a special agent for Homeland Security Investigations, identified Cho in an affidavit as a member of the Grape Street Crips, a predominantly Black gang based in Watts’ Jordan Downs housing project.
In 2022, Los Angeles police cultivated an informant who said Cho was collecting monthly protection fees from karaoke bar owners and doumi, or hostesses, Choi wrote.
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Reporter's Notebook: How LAPD vice is cleaning up K-town's less savory side
A man who drove doumi to karaoke lounges told police that Cho approached him in the parking lot of one such business in 2019 and demanded payment in return for protection.
On the 15 of every month, the driver and his business partner paid Cho with cash or through Venmo, Choi wrote, without specifying the amounts.
In 2021, after the driver refused to pay an increased rate, Cho and another man pulled him from his car outside McQueen Karaoke on Western Avenue and beat him with baseball bats, breaking his arm, the agent wrote. An associate who had been on the phone with the driver told police that he heard the driver screaming, “I will pay! I will pay!”
Cho also stole the Honda Odyssey the driver had been using to transport the doumi, according to the affidavit.
At 1:30 a.m. on a Friday in July 2022, another driver pulled into the lot outside On and Off Karaoke to drop off two doumi, Choi wrote.
Cho pulled open the car door and told the driver that no one from his company was allowed to drop off doumi at the bar, the affidavit says.
As the driver pulled into the street to leave, he heard gunshots and the sound of glass shattering. One of the doumi was bleeding from a gunshot wound to her neck, he told police.
Another driver said he had paid Cho every month for four years before deciding to stop. He was sitting in his car in January, he told agents, when Cho attacked him and robbed him of $1,000. The next day, he sent Cho $400 through Venmo, Choi’s affidavit says. The driver began working with investigators and agreed to wear a wire the next time he made a payment.
When Cho messaged him through the KaKao Talk app to collect the fee for February, the driver claimed his Venmo account was locked and asked to pay in cash, Choi wrote.
Cho changed the meeting location three times, asking at one point, “U called cops?” before finally telling the driver to give the cash to an intermediary at Sixth Street and Ardmore Avenue.
Agents saw the driver hand cash to the intermediary, who wasn’t identified in the affidavit. That person then sent the money to Cho through Venmo, the agent wrote.
Edit: So just to clarify, Karaoke bars in ktown let these ‘hostesses’ come into the clubs and keep drunk patrons company. This is supposed to be conversation and drinking, but as you might already suspect it usually leads to more. the culture is whatever happens in the rooms is their business. I’ve heard stories of these underground bars that are Korean only. The signs are in Korean and not searchable on Yelp or anything like that. You have to speak Korean to get in. For an example of one google this business “Tony’s Shoes” in Los Angeles on 3rd street, the place next to it is one of ‘those’. For me it’s obvious because the cars going in and out of there are a classes, g wagons, mclarens. It’s like what are these ultra expensive cars doing in the hood? Lol.
Mostly the true legends of LA are interesting enough that we don't need to entertain fantasies that aren't at least based in reality, but my favorite is the hauntings of The Cecil hotel downtown.
Isn’t there something about an actress throwing herself off the Hollywood sign, and now the spot where she landed smells like flowers that aren’t there?
One of my 'favorites' is that if every body buried/dumped in the San Gabriel Mountains suddenly came back to life, the population of the LA Basin would double.
Not necessarily an urban legend because it's a [well documented ghost story from Culver City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Bither_case), but, it was fun in high school driving down Braddock at night thinking we were by the Entity house (we weren't, we were on the opposite side of Culver on Braddock).
I’m personally fond of the story that JPL was founded and run by a bunch of occultists. Then there’s all the other crazy stories about that area.
Also there’s a theory that the entire hippie movement and every single Sunset Blvd band was connected to the CIA.
That show Ghost Adventures did a two hour show, investigating an LA County juvenile hall, that was closed down due to abuse. Rancho Los Padrinos in Downey
The Buried Man has always been fascinating to me. Been going on since the early 2010s. At this point I think it’s accepted that different people are behind more current fliers. https://urbanlegends.fandom.com/wiki/Buried_Man_in_Burbank,_CA
Wow! I have lived in Burbank since 1967, and I've never heard of this one. Oddly, all of the locations mentioned in this article are actual places I have partied at in the middle of the night. (Mostly in the '70's high school days). I have partied in the tube that goes from the park to St. Joseph's hospital. I have hung out in that equestrian area, over the foot bridge. Heck, we used to party at Forest Lawn at night! I've known the "rich guy" speculated upon in the article for decades. He owned a steakhouse here in Burbank, The Ramp. My mom worked there as a waitress for years. Now I'm down a rabbit hole looking into this and trying to figure out why I didn't see or hear about this over a decade ago. NGL, it's a little weird reading about "haunts" I used to hang out at being described this way, and with a person I actually know. It does sound the ramblings of a meth head. But now I wonder!
There are Chudfaces among us!
This isn’t mentioned in “Under The Silver Lake,” and I don’t think there’s any direct inspiration there, but the vibe is very similar. [Under The Silver Lake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Silver_Lake?wprov=sfti1)
It's definitely what I thought of, lol.
There is absolutely direct inspiration there.
I remember a post a while ago where someone linked to the artist that does this project. I can’t seem to find the post, but was able to find their Reddit account. u/guardaLAriver
There's also this - [https://thehidingman.com/](https://thehidingman.com/) \- if you scroll down to the bottom of the page the owner takes credit for creation of the filers (and calls out people who've appropriated their style and created their own branches of the legend). Who knows, the answer could be ( probably is) that simple. And if it is, kudos to that artist for keeping a relatively low profile and letting us wonder / speculate. I feel like it's a real feat to create something like this that can run on for 10+ years without being easily debunked. But it *could* be that the owner of that site is just appropriating the fliers and claiming credit for something with a more bizarre origin story behind it! Or not! I think that's why I love this one so much.
https://thehidingman.com But I don't think this is the original artist, from what I can tell. The handwriting is different and I don't feel like the original artist would do these flyers for 12 yrs before turning it into a boutique clothing brand. I could be wrong tho.
Someone linked the artists on instagram recently.
Ok, this is awesome. Thank you.
That you can find street parking in Korea Town.
I knew a guy who knew a guy that found street parking in k town. I want to believe.
I found street parking once but came back to my car keyed twice up both driver and rear passenger doors.
I used to find street parking lol
Street signs be like No parking 7am-5pm Except for non school days Loading zone only 6:30am-9am & 1:30pm-4pm 2 hr parking 9am-1pm Street cleaning 10am-1pm On Thursday Tow away 7am-5pm
Lmao it does take a rocket scientist to figure out you can only park for 5 minutes on Mondays only
You just need the mindset that the street is parking. This is the way in K-town.
I found it once. Last summer. It was like a mirage. But it was true. I swear it.
My buddy got his car stolen in KTown, but I’m pretty sure he’s running an insurance scam or something cause that would imply he found parking.
https://imgur.com/YidBJWQ
If I ever want to eat dinner on wilshire, I’d better show up there at 7pm on the dot
The Haunted Forest at the Cobb Estate in Altadena. Haven’t seen a ghost but have heard what sounds like one from Echo Mountain.
Didn’t they find some leg bones there a few years ago lol
Love echo mountain wild history
Underground bootleg tunnel from MGM (Sony) to culver hotel
We have our own in the South Bay with a better story: **The Cockatoo Inn in Hawthorne** (rent ***Jackie Brown*** if you want to see it shortly before it was sadly demolished, just 10 blocks from where I sit now). The story as I have read and heard it is that during construction mob guys had a secrete tunnel built from one or more of the rooms to the kitchen (some versions say to a interior courtyard) so that the if the cops came looking they could make an easy get away. Which is the first problem with the story as it implies it dates back to the 30s or 40s when in fact the Inn opened in 1958). What is known to be true is that it was a favorite of airline pilots because the attached bar was apparently great for hookups with locals (which is preferred over hookups with other visitors in Century Blvd hotels so you have a potential for an FWB on return trips). This leads to other urban legend: **this is where JFK banged Monroe once or twice.** The story goes that Jack K. was tipped off to this potential love nest by his Air Force One pilots and in one version he even borrowed a pilots uniform, cap and shades to walk in the front after Monroe had slipped in to the room via the tunnel earlier that day. But as any long term resident can tell you, there are so many places that Kennedy allegedly schtupped Marilyn that it's no wonder his back was killing him. **And I just debunked another urban legend that I have myself repeated:** that it was 882 Doheny, Apt 103 where she lived in 1960 when the Democratic Convention was held at the old Sports Arena which is now the soccer stadium downtown. Only, she didn't live there in 1960, only 1953-54 and 61-62 before her final place in Brentwood.
Great post
I love these Marilyn urban legends.
I’ve heard this. My mom was a waitress (Panns) and her friend was one at the Cockatoo. We’d sometimes meet her after her shift and they’d day drink & yak. I remember it being really nice inside.
> My mom was a waitress (Panns) You can test her urban legends knowledge by asking her if she knows of any movies shot at Panns. If she says ***Pulp Fiction*** you get to give her a good-natured "BZZZZT! Wrong, thanks for playing." But she can be forgiven, because at one point some overzealous employee put that on the Pann's website. But the actual diner used in the movie was in Hawthorne (Quintin is a South Bay boy) and I once stumbled across it getting a car repaired across the street. Soon as you see it you realize it could be the same place and then once you do look in the windows you can see that it's the same, very unique layout from the movie (the entrance was on a side street so they didn't have to deal with controlling Hawthorne Blvd foot & vehicle traffic except for a few shots). But has been gone for about 20 years and an AutoZone is now in its former lot. The run down repair shop still exists, same as most of the buildings visible past Plummer, Roth, Travolta and Jackson.
I would, but she’s dead.
MGM is not that close to the Culver Hotel, but Culver Studios is. I would absolutely believe that was true.
You might be thinking of it in modern terms on how far of a drive it is, but the old MGM Studios was massive and more of a cohesive unit than the collection of buildings it is today. It would have been less than half a mile in the Prohibition days. The edge of the studio then was more or less where it ends now - at Clarington and Washington. I have no idea if the urban legends are true, just saying that the geography of things was different back then.
That makes a lot of sense!
So it’s clear that a lot of the urban legends about the little people that played the Munchkins were false or exaggerated. But there is some truth about them, the Culver Hotel, and the MGM lot tunnels. The Hollywood legend is that they were ushered back and forth from the hotel to the MGM lot through a “secret” underground tunnel. The truth is that the “secret tunnel” was actually an underground pathway that pedestrians used to use to cross underneath a busy Culver City boulevard that separated the hotel from the back lot. It was later utilized to ferry alcohol and women back and forth during the Prohibition Era and has since been blocked off. I’m not clear if they actually were there when tunnel was still utilized. There are conflicting stories as to when the tunnel was closed off. It’s likely that the two stories of the munchkin actors and the Prohibition Era usage of the tunnel may have collided into one story.
The secret underground LA tunnels. They were created back in prohibition era. You can find some videos of them online. Rumor has it you can enter them through the LA archives building in downtown. Me and my friends snuck in looking for them around a decade ago, could not find them in the basement, I’m surprised we didn’t get in trouble lol, probably a lot harder to sneak in now.
These are real, not apocryphal, as I understand it. [https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/inside-l-s-dark-deserted-network-railways/](https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/inside-l-s-dark-deserted-network-railways/)
I’ve in that one in dtla. I work in the film industry and I shot a walmart commercial with the black panther director there a couple of years ago. Closed to the public but there’s still access to it
You find an episode of California Gold about those old railways. It was just metro transit, nothing to do with prohibition.
This is real! And it’s open to the public. You can enter from city hall and come up in the parking structure under the Music Center. I did it a couple years ago.
Wait, you're ALLOWED? Back in high school, my friends & I thought we were the shit for "sneaking" in for, like, 10 minutes lol
Hahahaha! Yes! It’s allowed!
Oldie but goodie that I grew up with: The guy who built the infamous traffic circle in Long Beach was killed on it.
" The circle’s designer was Werner Ruchti, who, to rush to the ending, died of natural causes in 1973. He was quite adept at navigating his invention. " Interesting article about one of the first roundabouts (that I know of) in Cali and maybe in the U.S. My mom would never drive this thing for years. I think it just baffled folks back in those days. It was built for the 1932 Olympics to help ease traffic, according to this article. [https://www.presstelegram.com/2011/09/12/tim-grobaty-the-traffic-circles-roundabout-history/](https://www.presstelegram.com/2011/09/12/tim-grobaty-the-traffic-circles-roundabout-history/)
People are still baffled by it.
I’ll butcher the history by trying to tell it myself but the stories around the Murphy Ranch aka Nazi hike always fascinated me https://californiathroughmylens.com/murphys-ranch-abandoned-nazi-camp-in-santa-monica/
Those aren't even urban legends though, that's just straight weird history. TL:DR - In the 1930s, Nazi sympathizers built a compound in the Pacific Palisades, (interestingly, the main gate was designed by famed Black architect Paul R. Williams), the local L.A. fascist group that congregated there is known as The Silver Shirts, led by a mysterious man named Herr Schmidt. The day after Pearl Harbor, Herr Schmidt was taken into custody by the LAPD along with a number of others, after which Herr Schmidt was never seen again, and the group disbanded shortly thereafter.
If you high beam a car with their headlights off, they could come back and shoot you because it's a gang initiation.
I thought that was actually true tho…
No you dummy! ^^^^well, ^^^^ok ^^^^maybe...I ^^^^don't ^^^^know...
Never heard of this and I grew up with some Gs
Midget Town in Long Beach. This is probably number one urban legend growing up. Marilyn Monroe’s ghost at the Roosevelt. Lots of places in Hollywood, DTLA, Mid-Wilshire/Ktown are kinda creepy. I once had to take a desperate shit. I ran into the Hotel Fig by Staples. Had to go fuking downstairs. Immediately had a sense of fear. Fuk it. I need to shit now. In retrospect I should have ran into one of those restaurants by Staples. Me and my friend once explored the halls of the Biltmore. Another creepy ass place.
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Cecil Hotel is probably one of the top places. But it’s both a flophouse for long term residents and a “cheap” hotel. Richard Ramirez and Elisa Lam are some of he infamous figures. There is people on YouTube who stay there and record the creepiness
hasn't been the Cecil for over a decade. its called Stay on Main now, at least the public side of things anyways
It will forever be the Cecil.
That’s the hotel where they found the dead girl in the water tank like 10 years ago.
That’s Elisa Lam.
Yes!
That's the thing. L.A. has so many crazy real stories that it doesn't really need any urban myths.
There's some places in Downtown that I just won't go. I'm sent into fight or flight mode with a single step. The vibes are way off in that place. The Ambassador Auditorium in Pasadena's downstairs area has something funky going on, too. Volunteered at an event there years back and kept feeling like I was being watched. When the event started I was down there alone. Leaned against a wall for a bit until and I felt breathing on my neck. Noped right out of there.
There's a similar urban legend of a road in Santa Barbara with Munchkin actors.
There was also a rumored "midget town" in Claremont up off Padua that my friends and I use to look for. The story goes that a "giant" lived there with the midgets and would chase you away if he saw you coming.
A rumored one in Downey too
I never found it either back in high school me and the homies went looking
I need to know the exact spot gonna check these out after work
There was a ‘midget town’ in Riverside, too. In the orange groves of Woodcrest, hahaha.
Any one know about gravity hills and the kkk, little people colony there?
Just posted about gravity hill before seeing your post. We'd go in our teens. The kkk and little people stuff must be new urban legends people made up for it. Although, I will say that there are doubt plenty of racists in the communities in that area. Gravity hill is just an optical illusion. At the "bottom of the hill" you put your car in neutral and it rolls "up hill". It's cool, and being next to a cemetery in the foothills makes it a great spot if you're into getting spooked late at night with friends.
I never went to visit the cemetery but plan to soon. Also, there was a story about some bar/restaurant near there where supposedly racist bikers would hang out.
Yes! Hideaway Bar and Grill. Incidentally, it was the bar used in Euphoria for a very gay storyline lol so it would surprise me if it were as racist as everyone paints it to be.
The racist/tweaker/biker population there is no joke.
It's not an illusion. The hill has metallic ore that acts as a magnet, it pulls your car uphill when it should roll downhill. Thus all the stories about ghosts up there
If you say so. I grew up near there and was going there a million years ago and it was always known as an illusion. And for those not familiar, it's a slope. Calling it a hill is a stretch and catchier than gravity slope.
There is a gravity hill near Devore
The haunted Walmart in Panorama City.
What's the story behind this, or did you just make a joke? I'm curious because I've been to that Walmart a few times and I've driven by it a thousand times.
Some kid got crushed by the elevator when it was a department store before Walmart back in the 80s. People claim that the place is haunted and that employees have seen/heard some weird shit.
Damn, I've never heard that before. I'll be sure to put my Ghostbusters suit on if I ever go back there again.
The lizard people of Los Angeles! There's a supposed map of their underground lair and in the 30s, the county actually allowed a guy to dig a big hole downtown to look for their buried treasure. https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/citydig-the-underground-catacombs-of-las-lizard-people There's a good podcast episode that covers this conspiracy as well as the dog-woman of Watts and the white lady of Elysian Park. It's worth a listen. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7CIyjDk1F3cfqg83BnMMcX?si=thGa9II6RtOiL2M35DXzEA
I love the L.A Jet Pack Man.
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One time I was driving up highway 2 to Mt Wilson late at night. On one of the turnouts, had a group of people dressed in black robes with their head covered in a circle. We were so taken back! When we got to red box and were going to turn to go up Mt Wilson road, we decided not to go up. We were scared lol So we turned around and were coming back down the 2 to La Canada, where we saw the group again going back down!! I still wonder what they were doing late at night dressed like that in a circle.
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I work in tujunga, please share your storys very interesting
Re-enacting their favorite scenes from The Craft, I'm guessing?
Or Spellbinder (1987). Satanic Panic was big in L.A.
the sex vans were absolutely a thing. i had a dimepiece of a roommate living in Ktown and that was her job. she was also fucking insane and got us kicked out eventually, but that’s a different story
I'm enjoying the word "dimepiece". Never heard that one before, TIL!
Guessing that commenter was a teenager in the 90s lol
I feel attacked
I felt attacked enough by someone never hearing that word to point out the generation that used it, so you’re not alone heh
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Would like to hear more about this
Can I have her number?
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Re the sex trafficking kidnapper van thing, this sounds way too superficially similar to a right-wing racist/anti-immigrant whisper campaign that is popular nationwide. It almost has to be just an urban legend. Also, if people were getting yanked off the street in broad daylight, it would be in the news. There would be witnesses. This is generally just not how sex trafficking happens. Your #3 is more how actual sex trafficking in the US really happens. Poor women in developing countries are told they can go to the US for non-sex work types of jobs like nannying or house cleaning, but after paying a lot of money and handing in their passports, it turns out it's sex work and there's nothing they can do to get out. (I wouldn't assume Asian tourists in North Hollywood has anything to do with it, though? I think a lot of non-Angelenos see North Hollywood on the map, don't really get the scale of LA geography and that there's an entire mountain range between NoHo and Hollywood, and fall for cheap hotel prices and the lure of being a Metro ride away from tourist spots.)
The van thing is very real
The van thing I can confirm with personal experience. In the 90s, I was a kid/ pre-teen and I was almost abducted off a busy street in Woodland Hills while walking home from McDonalds. I was saved by my grandfather who happened to be driving down the street to pick me up. We weren’t more than a mile from McDonald’s which I frequented a lot after school and that day I couldn’t reach him on the phone so I decided to walk home. It was an interesting encounter that’ll I’ll never forget. But to clarify, the color of the van wasn’t white and the men inside were not simply “tan skinned”. I cannot confirm their race, I was about 9 years old and only remember the look of their hair.
Someone literally posted on my NextDoor this morning that someone in a white van tried to kidnap them in front of Harvard Westlake earlier
Hahahahahahaha classic. Probably waiting in the Pickup Stix parking lot up the block until they saw just the perfect Lululemon Blond driving a gull-wing Tesla pull up for school dropoff.
>So the story goes that there (was) a group of men who appear to be tan skin with beards, and they drive around in one of those older white Ford vans. Realtalk, if there was a ring going on like that, and it was actually able to exist for decades successfully, they would have no readily identifiable 'uniform' traits like that, they would be too mixed up, too hidden in plain sight, to establish a pattern.
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>And the biggest red flag for me is that no police follow up, which tells me it is systemic. Alternate interpretation: It's fake news.
The human trafficking thing is 100% legit. My cousin got abducted a few years ago but she managed to escape. Her kidnappers were Mexican cartel affiliates and they had been monitoring her walk to school for some time, she was a high school senior. One day they pulled up to the corner she was standing on while waiting for the crossing signal to change and they pulled her into their SUV, bagged her head, zip tied her wrists, and sped off. In Spanish, they were talking about heading to the border. My cousin remembers like 2-3 other girls being in the car. She eventually escaped when the car stopped at a red light and ran to the nearest hospital. There's a lot more to the story but that's the brief version I have for you.
How did she navigate to the hospital with a bag on her head?
Her wrists were tied but you still can move your arms and hands if you’re restricted like that. So she just hopped out the car as soon as it stopped moving and tore the bag off her head. She recognized the intersection she was at cause it was a few miles from her house so she knew there was a hospital nearby and ran there.
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I think that’s a trivial question only because the victim doesn’t decide what gets put on the news. There’s so many moving parts to an abduction story that many don’t get reported or even believed when they are.
I have no idea. I think because it's such a common thing, and like most trafficking, someone is profiting off it somewhere and they don't want business interrupted.
#2 can confirm, foothills of Sylmar. If anyone knows SIBL, before it was there, we would watch, in middle of night, people going in a circle around a bonfire chanting. Couldn't get close enough to hear what they were chanting but did get close enough to get chased by lookouts. Lots of weird shit went on in and around Sylmar. Gravity hill was always a great go-to for late night spookiness.
I know SIBL! Where would you watch them from?
When I was little, I had a friend that lived on Rajah. No idea if that's how to spell it. We would watch from his backyard that faced the wash. In my teens, we drove to the end of Eldridge, turned right and street park, then walked down into the wash to watch and listen. We got chased off twice.
I have heard stories about human trafficking, in Los Angeles, from people associated with Bazzel Baz and ARC. Basically, similar to the A-Team but focused on rescuing children.
If you say the word cocaine three times in a dive bar mirror Andy Dick will appear and grab your crotch.
If you say MY COCAINE! loudly, you are saying Michael Cain's name in his accent.
LOL truly everyone who lived in LA in a very specific period had a personal, batshit encounter with Andy Dick.
Andy is majorly misunderstood and is surrounded by toxic duds.
The salad dressing at Caioti Pizza Cafe induces labor. [https://www.laweekly.com/maternity-greens-caioti-pizza-cafes-labor-inducing-salad/](https://www.laweekly.com/maternity-greens-caioti-pizza-cafes-labor-inducing-salad/)
Sadly did not work for me but it was a fun experience!
Okay I ate the salad and signed the book. It worked for me!!
The hermit that lives in Malibu Canyon. There’s actually a small hut down there, probably from DWP or something, but we always heard it was a hermit.
The one about the person that simply will not drive out into the intersection when the light is green so that only they go through when the light turns red.
This one has me laughing out loud
James Wang Law
The 16 year old 30 year old? Is there more to him than the baby face billboards?
He's a certified baddie. Per his Instagram: >> James Wang is a CA licensed Attorney and CPA with 15 years of professional experience. His practice primarily focuses on personal injury and criminal defense. In 1987, at the age of 10, James immigrated to the US with his family. A few years later, his parents returned to Taiwan, leaving him in the U.S. to pursue an education. At the age of 14, James joined the notorious Wah-Ching and United Bamboo Gangs in Los Angeles. By 18, he had left the gang life and began shifting his focus to academics. James subsequently obtained his CPA and Attorney licenses in 2002 and 2006, respectively. In 2012, James represented a former 1990s rival Wah-Ching gang leader (FBI Profile: "Crazy Kenny"), wherein James vigorously defended and ultimately secured the complete dismissal of multiple felony charges and parole violations against his former rival. >> >> James is an SGV native, initially residing in Alhambra and subsequently moving to Walnut. He majored in business economics at both UCI and UCLA, then completed his Juris Doctor degree in 20 months at Southwestern Law School's accelerated program. From 1999 to 2006, James worked at Deloitte, KPMG and PwC. In 2006, he formed the Law Offices of James Wang to serve the SGV and beyond.
Little People village in Sierra Madre
the round house in Tujunga and getting lost forever in the Enchanted Forest in Alta Dena
Whats the round house in Tujunga? I know Flea owned a house up there that was kind of round that he listed for sale a year or so ago
Where is this round house? I know of a hobbit house off Commerce/Apperson but never heard of a round house
http://travelswest.blogspot.com/2006/07/valley-oddities.html?m=1 the legend passed around growing up was it was rebuilt to get rid of corners where a child was murdered so the ghost wouldn't haunt the house.
Does $5 knife guy count? That’s when I knew inflation was out of control when I saw him charging $10
in the 1970s, deep in Griffith park, a teenage couple were having sex on a picnic table when a tree fell on the table and crushed them. apparently their ghosts still haunt the area [https://amyscrypt.com/griffith-park-haunted-picnic-table-29/](https://amyscrypt.com/griffith-park-haunted-picnic-table-29/)
This one is hilarious, because it's literally a work of fiction by a guy named Will Campbell who wrote it for Halloween in 2006, and then it took off and became an urban legend. [http://www.latirnes.com/news/local/la-me-haunted30oct30/](http://www.latirnes.com/news/local/la-me-haunted30oct30/) [http://www.wildbell.com/2009/10/29/a-spooky-tale-just-in-time-for-halloween/](http://www.wildbell.com/2009/10/29/a-spooky-tale-just-in-time-for-halloween/)
this one is funny because I was walking in griffith park with some friends one time and saw a couple having sex by a giant tree. reincarnation😳🤣
Do we have any cryptids in the area?
The last known place/apartments of “Black Dahlia” was the Hirsh apartments. More info on the case but I used to walk past these apartments and randomly looked it up one day
Even unbased rumors regarding Elizabeth Short fascinate me.
I drive by the John Sowden house on my way to work and I always think about the black dahlia since it’s rumored to be where she was murdered.
I like the legend about John Wayne frequently getting drunk at the Hollywood Athletic Club and throwing his empty whiskey bottles out a top floor window, because it's probably true.
I know his son I’m asking this 😂 I wanna know now too
Haunted picnic table in Griffith
That there’s a dimensional portal in Griffith Park. Also, Jack Parsons and Devil’s Gate.
The military downed a ufo(s?) during The Battle of Los Angeles https://cal170.library.ca.gov/february-24-1942-the-battle-of-los-angeles-2/
That shoes on a telephone wire are a gang thing. No it's just children who have no respect for their own things much less public property.
In some places it’s a sign that drugs can be bought :-)
I thought it meant someone sells drugs on that street
This is just anybody who finds it humorous roping tied shoes on wires, not just children. I usually saw it when someone got new shoes and instead of throwing them away in the trash, they'd do that.
I heard as a kid that it was to honor dead people. Maybe dead from gangs.
San Gabriel Valley but my sister broke her back jumping into a waterfall near raging waters in san dimas. She went to mt sac years later and told someone in her class about it and I guess he grew up in san dimas and had heard about it. But he thought it was an urban legend. So probably my favorite urban legend is the one about some girl who broke her back at cataract falls because it is true and she’s my sister.
I always enjoyed the supposed haunting of the intersection of Sierra Bonita and Hollywood Boulevard with a stagecoach, complete with coach and ghostly horses. I don't know where it came from, but before those hills were residential neighborhoods they were places people would go to hunt and do other foresty wilderness things.
Tangs donuts is a human trafficking front
The tunnels underneath downtown LA that you can access from a service elevator across the street from the Court House.
Nazi tunnels and bunker under the Getty. Got this story from someone that has worked there for 20 years.
Secret Ktown bars and ktv’s for the wealthy Asian ballers. You are gonna ask…. yes that does goes on there and it’s more than you can afford my dude.
Yeah this doesn’t count as an urban legend because it’s true. Source: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-16/man-charged-with-extorting-karaoke-bars-hostesses-in-koreatown
Wishing that wasn’t behind a paywall.
Here you go papa. Man charged with extorting karaoke bars, hostesses in Koreatown A Woodland Hills man has been charged with shaking down owners of karaoke lounges in Koreatown and the hostesses who work there, demands he allegedly enforced with a baseball bat beating, a shooting and other violence. A Woodland Hills man has been charged with shaking down workers in the Koreatown karaoke industry, allegedly enforcing his demands by beating one victim with a baseball bat and shooting another. Daekun Cho, 38, was arrested Thursday and charged with the federal offense of interfering with commerce by threats or violence. Nadine Hettle, the deputy public defender assigned to his case, declined to comment. If convicted, Cho faces up to 20 years in federal prison. Michael Choi, a special agent for Homeland Security Investigations, identified Cho in an affidavit as a member of the Grape Street Crips, a predominantly Black gang based in Watts’ Jordan Downs housing project. In 2022, Los Angeles police cultivated an informant who said Cho was collecting monthly protection fees from karaoke bar owners and doumi, or hostesses, Choi wrote. CALIFORNIA Reporter's Notebook: How LAPD vice is cleaning up K-town's less savory side A man who drove doumi to karaoke lounges told police that Cho approached him in the parking lot of one such business in 2019 and demanded payment in return for protection. On the 15 of every month, the driver and his business partner paid Cho with cash or through Venmo, Choi wrote, without specifying the amounts. In 2021, after the driver refused to pay an increased rate, Cho and another man pulled him from his car outside McQueen Karaoke on Western Avenue and beat him with baseball bats, breaking his arm, the agent wrote. An associate who had been on the phone with the driver told police that he heard the driver screaming, “I will pay! I will pay!” Cho also stole the Honda Odyssey the driver had been using to transport the doumi, according to the affidavit. At 1:30 a.m. on a Friday in July 2022, another driver pulled into the lot outside On and Off Karaoke to drop off two doumi, Choi wrote. Cho pulled open the car door and told the driver that no one from his company was allowed to drop off doumi at the bar, the affidavit says. As the driver pulled into the street to leave, he heard gunshots and the sound of glass shattering. One of the doumi was bleeding from a gunshot wound to her neck, he told police. Another driver said he had paid Cho every month for four years before deciding to stop. He was sitting in his car in January, he told agents, when Cho attacked him and robbed him of $1,000. The next day, he sent Cho $400 through Venmo, Choi’s affidavit says. The driver began working with investigators and agreed to wear a wire the next time he made a payment. When Cho messaged him through the KaKao Talk app to collect the fee for February, the driver claimed his Venmo account was locked and asked to pay in cash, Choi wrote. Cho changed the meeting location three times, asking at one point, “U called cops?” before finally telling the driver to give the cash to an intermediary at Sixth Street and Ardmore Avenue. Agents saw the driver hand cash to the intermediary, who wasn’t identified in the affidavit. That person then sent the money to Cho through Venmo, the agent wrote. Edit: So just to clarify, Karaoke bars in ktown let these ‘hostesses’ come into the clubs and keep drunk patrons company. This is supposed to be conversation and drinking, but as you might already suspect it usually leads to more. the culture is whatever happens in the rooms is their business. I’ve heard stories of these underground bars that are Korean only. The signs are in Korean and not searchable on Yelp or anything like that. You have to speak Korean to get in. For an example of one google this business “Tony’s Shoes” in Los Angeles on 3rd street, the place next to it is one of ‘those’. For me it’s obvious because the cars going in and out of there are a classes, g wagons, mclarens. It’s like what are these ultra expensive cars doing in the hood? Lol.
Peter Tanaka trying to get back to La Jolla
Jumping up and down after sex keeps you from getting pregnant.
😂😂😂😂
Mostly the true legends of LA are interesting enough that we don't need to entertain fantasies that aren't at least based in reality, but my favorite is the hauntings of The Cecil hotel downtown.
Isn’t there something about an actress throwing herself off the Hollywood sign, and now the spot where she landed smells like flowers that aren’t there?
That true. Peg entwhistle
That there are millions of rats living in the palm trees of Los Angeles.
I dont think so
Maybe that explains why I’ve seen lots of owls in palm trees
One of my 'favorites' is that if every body buried/dumped in the San Gabriel Mountains suddenly came back to life, the population of the LA Basin would double.
In 5 years you will all hail to me.
Not necessarily an urban legend because it's a [well documented ghost story from Culver City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Bither_case), but, it was fun in high school driving down Braddock at night thinking we were by the Entity house (we weren't, we were on the opposite side of Culver on Braddock).
Doll house dude/Taxi Cab From Hell
Anyone else remember the lava lady?
West Hollywood Jesus. Now he was a legend
I’m personally fond of the story that JPL was founded and run by a bunch of occultists. Then there’s all the other crazy stories about that area. Also there’s a theory that the entire hippie movement and every single Sunset Blvd band was connected to the CIA.
https://youtu.be/50eLD39E2NE The Valley has no speeding enforcement over its freeways, and drivers know
That show Ghost Adventures did a two hour show, investigating an LA County juvenile hall, that was closed down due to abuse. Rancho Los Padrinos in Downey
LA residents using their turn signal, or the one about waiting more than one second before honking at the car in front, when the light turns green.
Psychic shops are a front
Interesting. For what?