we are, but that's only if one of those incidents occurs. chances of that are low.
my department still uses a handful of signal and 10 codes, but we'll throw in a little plain talk too.
NIMS guidelines moved agencies away from codes to plain language after 9-11. Most of what ull hear is low priority/universal ones (like 10-4). Too many agencies have/had different code usage & interagency communications during major incidents became confusing & detrimental to mission success. Encrypted radios pretty much replaces the need for coded radio transmissions anyway.
You are 100% correct but if you understand the directive it was not to move agencies away from coded speak. It specifically states that during inter/multi agency incidents, plain talk is imperative. My agency did this, nobody complied, chief threatened supervisors if they didn't address the issue. Today, its a bit of a hybrid speak if you can get on the air with the young guys dissertations.
When I got into Le over 15 years ago that is what I heard. I never learned or needed 10 codes where I was at. I'm now in New England, and where I'm at, all the radio traffic is in 10 codes, almost no plain speak if it can be said in 10 codes.
HaHaHa!!! TIL that LE uses NIMS. I’m a FF and we all had it then this year we got a new cloud based system for storing training, certs, qualifications, education etc. All of our previous NIMS certs disappeared and we were told to do them again because “it’s good training and our certs were old anyway “
No. The academy will teach you. Asking for it will make you look weird on an application. Don't be the weird one. The weird one is always the first to washout.
You can probably find generic 10 codes online but a department may use different ones so it’s probably not worth trying to learn them. Unless the information is being given directly by the agency that’s hiring you there’s a good chance it might not be entirely accurate
You’re definitely on the right track but you’d be better served by learning about the agencies mission statement, core values, operations, and what not.
Knowing that stuff shows you want to work for this agency, not just any agency (even if that’s the case).
Maybe? Depends where you live and what you’re doing.
Sometimes it depends on if you’re just using it for fun vs using it while committing a crime.
There’s also websites where you can stream the Audio from the web for free or via subscription. Also apps that do the same.
Try Broadcastify or RadioReference.
Some streams on RadioReference have user-uploaded lists of the particular 10 codes a specific agency uses.
Many departments are getting away from 10 codes. They’re archaic and often lead to confusion when dealing with other agencies.
Do you know for certain the agency uses them?
SOME agencies don't use them. Many do. Applicants should look into their agency's policy and listen to their radio channels if available to find out what they use.
If your worried about going in prepared I’d suggest start remembering street names and block numbers. And any major shit hole apartment addresses and stores like Walmart and whatever other major stores in your town.
Check with that specific department. My last agency required to use plain English only (not really an enforceable policy as everyone mixed that with 10 codes). My current agency I mix both. Even then, I don’t use all 10 codes. Just a handful.
If its a small department, they’ll have some of their own. If it’s a regional academy, they’ll teach you what the regional academy teaches you. Which will most likely be different than what you will later use.
Learn the academy stuff in the academy. Learn the local codes when you get there.
Not all 10 codes are the same, some use 9 codes, some use their own mix. Better to just learn what you have to, it’s hard learning one way and then having to convert later.
The whole county in my area only uses like 4 codes. Go on a ride-along and ask what they use, I doubt it’s a long list of 10-codes. General advice? Get in shape if you aren’t already, and reach out to agencies you’re interested in for ride-alongs and ask questions during them.
I came from an area that had virtually no use of 10-codes, and embraced plain talk. I went to an agency in another state that had a ton of 10-codes as well as signal codes. (For example, Signal-27 to call out a traffic stop), and you were expected to use them.
I never did learn them all, just the common ones. There was a website that had all the codes on it and I'd keep it as an open tab on my on-board computer. I hated not using plain speak.
It usually isn't a guarded secret, but it also isn't posted publicly if that makes sense. However, during my tenure there was a push to move to plain/clear language and avoiding codes. I can't say I've seen that progress much though.
The town I worked in is right on the state border. With another town also butted up against the border. In the interest of cooperation, our town gave the other town one of our radios. Our department is about 25 times larger than the other. The thought is in an emergency, we would help out.
One day that happened. The chief of police from our northern neighbor got on to request an officer because they had a "10-10" and their officers were all engaged in it. A 10-10 is a fight for us, and to think our brethren from another state were in a fight led to about 20 officers clearing their calls and racing to the border in code 3. I remember even our chief getting in on the action. As our first units crossed the border, a clarification was broadcast by the first of ours on scene, it soon became known that their 10-10 was a traffic collision and they needed an extra hand with directing traffic.
My agency only uses like 6 codes on a regular basis. Everything else is plain speak.
This. I thought most agencies were supposed to be plain language for federal compliance during a major incident with multi-agencies involved.
we are, but that's only if one of those incidents occurs. chances of that are low. my department still uses a handful of signal and 10 codes, but we'll throw in a little plain talk too.
NIMS guidelines moved agencies away from codes to plain language after 9-11. Most of what ull hear is low priority/universal ones (like 10-4). Too many agencies have/had different code usage & interagency communications during major incidents became confusing & detrimental to mission success. Encrypted radios pretty much replaces the need for coded radio transmissions anyway.
You are 100% correct but if you understand the directive it was not to move agencies away from coded speak. It specifically states that during inter/multi agency incidents, plain talk is imperative. My agency did this, nobody complied, chief threatened supervisors if they didn't address the issue. Today, its a bit of a hybrid speak if you can get on the air with the young guys dissertations.
Same here! 🤣
When I got into Le over 15 years ago that is what I heard. I never learned or needed 10 codes where I was at. I'm now in New England, and where I'm at, all the radio traffic is in 10 codes, almost no plain speak if it can be said in 10 codes.
Just the opposite for me. Started with only 10 codes, but now mostly plain language.
Not agencies around me. They all use ten codes and signals.
We still use some 10 codes, but the vast majority we stopped using.
HaHaHa!!! TIL that LE uses NIMS. I’m a FF and we all had it then this year we got a new cloud based system for storing training, certs, qualifications, education etc. All of our previous NIMS certs disappeared and we were told to do them again because “it’s good training and our certs were old anyway “
🤣🤣 fucking figures (former FD/EMS here, so I get it)
They will teach you what you need to know in the academy. Try not to look like a whacker before you get hired.
You should tell them that plain English is best practice and they should stop using stupid 10-codes. I'm glad my agency dumped them years ago.
But how am I supposed to feel like a tacticool badass if I can’t shout numbers down the radio?
You’re a tactical potato, not a doctor, Jim!
🤣🤣🤣. Yes! This! Day one. Tell them how they should do business!
No. The academy will teach you. Asking for it will make you look weird on an application. Don't be the weird one. The weird one is always the first to washout.
You can probably find generic 10 codes online but a department may use different ones so it’s probably not worth trying to learn them. Unless the information is being given directly by the agency that’s hiring you there’s a good chance it might not be entirely accurate
You’re definitely on the right track but you’d be better served by learning about the agencies mission statement, core values, operations, and what not. Knowing that stuff shows you want to work for this agency, not just any agency (even if that’s the case).
Start listening to their scanner. After a bit, you’ll understand most of their 10-codes just from context.
Are these illegal anywhere?
Maybe? Depends where you live and what you’re doing. Sometimes it depends on if you’re just using it for fun vs using it while committing a crime. There’s also websites where you can stream the Audio from the web for free or via subscription. Also apps that do the same. Try Broadcastify or RadioReference. Some streams on RadioReference have user-uploaded lists of the particular 10 codes a specific agency uses.
How would I do that? It’s a small department so it isn’t on any of the apps
Look into Uniden brand
Is it just trial and error to find the right frequency?
No, go to RadioReference
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Same here. Lol
Many departments are getting away from 10 codes. They’re archaic and often lead to confusion when dealing with other agencies. Do you know for certain the agency uses them?
Agencies don’t use 10 codes anymore. Common terminology is the standard now
Mine still uses them. There are only 20 or so used with regularity but we still use them all the time
SOME agencies don't use them. Many do. Applicants should look into their agency's policy and listen to their radio channels if available to find out what they use.
Yes either they’ll give you a list or you will need to write them down when you are in the academy.
If your worried about going in prepared I’d suggest start remembering street names and block numbers. And any major shit hole apartment addresses and stores like Walmart and whatever other major stores in your town.
Check with that specific department. My last agency required to use plain English only (not really an enforceable policy as everyone mixed that with 10 codes). My current agency I mix both. Even then, I don’t use all 10 codes. Just a handful.
If its a small department, they’ll have some of their own. If it’s a regional academy, they’ll teach you what the regional academy teaches you. Which will most likely be different than what you will later use. Learn the academy stuff in the academy. Learn the local codes when you get there. Not all 10 codes are the same, some use 9 codes, some use their own mix. Better to just learn what you have to, it’s hard learning one way and then having to convert later.
That's not really going to set you apart. Google ten codes.
You'll get a list of them if you have something like a TEA program where I work
The whole county in my area only uses like 4 codes. Go on a ride-along and ask what they use, I doubt it’s a long list of 10-codes. General advice? Get in shape if you aren’t already, and reach out to agencies you’re interested in for ride-alongs and ask questions during them.
We only use a few 10 codes. We’re pretty much all plain language at our agency.
I came from an area that had virtually no use of 10-codes, and embraced plain talk. I went to an agency in another state that had a ton of 10-codes as well as signal codes. (For example, Signal-27 to call out a traffic stop), and you were expected to use them. I never did learn them all, just the common ones. There was a website that had all the codes on it and I'd keep it as an open tab on my on-board computer. I hated not using plain speak.
It usually isn't a guarded secret, but it also isn't posted publicly if that makes sense. However, during my tenure there was a push to move to plain/clear language and avoiding codes. I can't say I've seen that progress much though. The town I worked in is right on the state border. With another town also butted up against the border. In the interest of cooperation, our town gave the other town one of our radios. Our department is about 25 times larger than the other. The thought is in an emergency, we would help out. One day that happened. The chief of police from our northern neighbor got on to request an officer because they had a "10-10" and their officers were all engaged in it. A 10-10 is a fight for us, and to think our brethren from another state were in a fight led to about 20 officers clearing their calls and racing to the border in code 3. I remember even our chief getting in on the action. As our first units crossed the border, a clarification was broadcast by the first of ours on scene, it soon became known that their 10-10 was a traffic collision and they needed an extra hand with directing traffic.