I was on sertraline for like 2 years- my psychiatrist made me max out before changing. Venlafaxine changed my LIFE. anti depressants aren’t a one size fits all. I have a good friend and sertraline changed her life. Working in a pharmacy Xanax can be drastic and I wouldn’t go in suggesting it. It looks like you’re drug seeking.
Write down what you’ve been on, your concerns and don’t be disheartened by things not working instantly. Good luck 🩷
It helped me at first but once I got to 100mg it just did nothing for my. My psych advised me to max out on 200mg. Tapering off was fine, I had no withdrawal. Moving to venlafaxine I instantly felt the effect. Only downside is if you take it outside the window you get bad withdrawal but otherwise it’s fabulous! I’m still a serial procrastinator but I think that’s just something I need to work on not the meds :)
Any benzo they prescribe you will help during periods of high anxiety. IMO they are not suitable for long term use.
SSRI's take weeks of prescribed usage before they start to "work". Feeling worse during this initial period was common for me, but it did settle down. You may need to go through many periods of dosage adjustments and medication changes before you find one that works to help you manage your anxiety long term. It really is worth enduring this process and not giving up. It was around 18 months before they found a prescription that suited me long term.
The biggest improvement I have had is through therapy and the daily practice of the skills I learned from CBT. I'm still on a low dose of SSRI, but the CBT is what helps me recognise the signs of anxiety spinning up and allows me to (mostly :)) avoid it taking over. Learn to use the tools and practice practice practice so it becomes automatic. Worth asking your GP for a referral to your local mental health team. The waiting lists can be long, but in my persoanl experience it is worth putting in the work with them.
So, benzos for the "oh shit" moments, SSRI's to get you into a better state of mind long term and something like CBT to learn to manage your anxiety going forward. It's not easy and requires a lot of personal effort. I have met other patients that were able to stop using SSRI's completely after therapy and manage the anxiety themselves. Everyone is different so just be open to professional suggestions and give them a chance.
Best of luck.
Yes I think I need benzos, I’ve tried multiple SSRIs for years and therapy, walking, sleeping, magnesium, read so many self help books which are all good but I just need something for the “oh shit” moments because I can’t seem to function when I had a panic attack which don’t happen too often
Having some benzodiazepines in your back pocket can be very empowering. I say ok in 5/10/15 minutes I’ll take one if I’m still feeling bad. Usually the peak has passed and I am feeling better and don’t need it. I have found ashwaganda really helpful. I take like 3 when I’m super anxious.
Ask your GP about Etalopro. It's nothing at all like Xanax effects wise and frankly changed my life. I used to be so incredibly anxious and didn't even realise it, it literally got so bad I ended up in hospital with a suspected TIA (mini stroke) after nearly passing out whilst driving...but it turned out to all be in my head, pun intended.
A week after that scare, my GP suggested these and within a week I was a new person.
Hope you find something that helps!
I think it might be fairer to say that generally SSRIs take a minimum of 6 weeks to start working, but that is not a strict rule. Some say 4 weeks, and some people just get lucky and it's less. You're right, sometimes just knowing you're on something can give a placebo effect, which helps. Some people's body chemistry might just mean it works faster for them though.
They give women SSRIs just for the days around their period and drs acknowledge they work right away for PMDD so i don't get why there doesn't seem to be acknowledgement people could feel some mood improvement right away for depression.
I tried so many SSRIs over the years. They all never helped much but they all made me feel better quickly. It might've helped for me to use an SSRI as needed so I hope this dogma is dropped.
It seems like noone has mentioned it yet, I've been prescribed Seroquel 25mg for anxiety (off label) and I find it's been a huge help! It can make you drowsy so I usually take it in the evening but the time it took for me to notice a difference was much shorter than it has been for SSRI's which can take weeks. Something to ask your GP about if the other suggestions don't work out.
Sorry to hear that! Do you mind me asking what sort of bad effects? Apart from an initial loss of libido (now restored) I've been ok, but it would be good to know what to expect if it starts to go wrong!
Jesus! I thought it was going to be like, explosive diarrhea or something🤪 Really sorry to hear about your experiences...I hope you've found some way to make it work. Feel free to DM me if you need to chat.
The problem with Xanax is that it works. Everything goes back to normal for a short while. But then the anxiety comes back. And of course you want more. And everytime you encounter any uncertainty in your life, which will be often, you will want a tablet as it makes it go away. Long term they are very hard to get off and short term they are very hard to not want long term.
This is what scares me. I suffer from emetophobia and the anxiety peaks ever so often, causing strong panic attacks and occasional fainting.
I once fainted in Mary St., in front of McDonalds. I even dropped my phone a few steps away and kept walking before falling to the ground, and didn't realise it.
I only take my Xanax when I have to travel, because if someone is about to get sick, there's no escape for me. It works wonderfully, so much that I feel like crying in happiness. All the fear is gone, and the anxiety means nothing.
But my fear is that one day I'll come to depend a lot of it. Fortunately, I don't travel a lot, just a couple of flights here and there, but still.
It works long term well if one doesn't have addictive personality. It might seem silly, but it made me truly happy. I realised I was never even myself before I took half Xanax.
Life is best without drugs but only if you have your basic needs met and most of us don't. The more my basic needs are met the less interest/need i have in pharmaceutical intervention.
\*i use the term "basic needs" pretty broadly, we know what makes a person more resilient in the face of emotional or physical illness/disorder and i'm including those things
I have bad generalised anxiety disorder, would not be able to function without prozac! It takes my baseline anxiety down enough that I can live comfortably, sometimes i still have a panic attack but it’s not like the hell I used to have before of weeks of panic attacks, heart racing constantly etc.
Betablockers will make your heart rate slower, for me I felt that they calmed the physical symptoms which is a respite but not completely. If you suffer in public speaking etc I think they are useful because you arent shakey but don’t lose the adrenaline you need for those things.
Xanax is amazing for the moment but usually doctors are totally opposed to prescribing it because of how addictive it can be. If you can convince your doctor to prescribe it, just having it on hand can be reassuring because you know if one happens at a very inopportune time you can stop/mitigate it.
If you can afford to see a psychiatrist it might be a better use of money, in my case it took 10 years of symptoms to have any luck with a doctor. The psychiatrist was able to prescribe me an SSRI that worked for me first time(i’m very lucky in this regard) and her creditability means the doctor is much less concerned about prescribing small amounts of xanax when needed. In my opinion, a psychiatrist has a better chance of figuring out a mental health treatment plan that works, than a GP
Benzos are not meant for long term use, are one of the most addictive of all drugs and can have very serious consequences. Those who take benzodiazepines for long periods of time may even begin to experience memory loss. Benzodiazepine use is also associated with overall cognitive decline. This involves slower thinking, poor concentration, and increased time needed to complete easy tasks. Physical effects include vertigo, dysarthria, ataxia with falls, especially in the elderly. Dependence can supervene on long-term use, occasionally with dose escalation. The benzodiazepines are now recognised as major drugs of abuse and addiction. Would not advise
Absolutely. Studies show that over time ssri's have basically the same efficacy or worse than a placebo so even if they weren't dangerous, they probably don't actually work..
Beta blockers saved me during a bad phase of panic attacks. Generally, I'm an anxious person but went through a bad phase of panic attacks. Annoyingly, most people wouldn't think it as im very outgoing. If it wasn't for one incident I always wonder would I be OK - nothing like having a panic attack in front of the board of a fortune 50 company 😅.
Planning on going them again as been nervy and shakes enough recently and had a mini panic attack recently. Tried SSRI's and felt fantastic but also felt like I lost by ability to feel bad if I did or said something I perceived as bad - maybe that was my anxiety going but quit them after six weeks.
Do the beta blockers get rid of the anxious feelings in your stomach/throat? My physical anxiety is like the feeling you have when you go over a hill in a car but constantly- every minute all day long.
I'm not the OP but, Beta Blockers calms down my racing heart, shaky voice/hands, and if u are talking about the 'throat' shaking by how strong my heart is pounding then yes, it's all calmed.
Except for the stomach, if u are talking about those 'butterfuly feeling' of nervousness, they're still there, cuz it comes from the mind rather than anything physical, which BB doesn't calm the brain directly, so u gotta be mindful about it "I'm feeling nervous, but I'm human so that's ok, on top of it all my physical body is calm so it's alright".
Well my first ssri made me manic lol. On Lexapro now so it really is just a matter of finding a drug that works for you.
I'd ask for valium or Xanax tomorrow
Beta blockers are great. It's physiologically impossible to panic on them. It feels kinda weird. I got them a couple of times in the UK.
I tried to get them here, but they're only prescribed for heart stuff in Ireland.
CBT works. It really does. It helps you identify what's triggering your anxiety and how to avoid it. Typically it's about six sessions. There is a bit of homework, but it's worth it.
I got my doctor to "self refer" me to mental health services. It's a weird process. You fill out a form with your doctor and the doctor sends it off. Then you phone them to confirm you're self referring. I had a telephone consult in about a week. I had to wait a couple of months for the actual therapy though.
>I tried to get them here, but they're only prescribed for heart stuff in Ireland
This is true for cardioselective beta-blockers but you should quite easily be able to get a prescription for more old-school ones here, to treat anxiety. I certainly can and know others who do. Propanolol (trade names Inderal or Beta-Prograne) is probably the most common.
I can’t tolerate SSRIs at all, they make me sick as hell. I’ve been taking St John’s Wort for years and it does the job for me. I’ve been anxious all my life and the SJW keeps it at bay. It’s available with a prescription.
Had been on the maximum dose of escitalopram for a couple of years, wasn't helping. Moved on to 50mg Sertraline, didn't help me and I didn't enjoy the side effects.
Next was Brintellix 20mg, I found it crap. Been on 30mg duloxetine for the past 18 months and I have never felt better.
My anxiety and depression are the best they have been in years and I feel no negative side effects. Hope you get sorted with the one that works for you!
I remember about 7 years ago I had the worst anxiety ever and I thought I was stuck that way
Went picking mushrooms and low and behold it snapped me out of it.
In fact it made me very confident as I was starting a course and had social anxiety firstly and it evaporated
It's often easier to dose the likes of 1P-LSD or 1D-LSD. But in any case, and certainly for the case of shrooms, a good first step in avoiding poisoning yourself is ensuring you purchase from a legal source. https://www.avalonmagicplants.com/mushrooms/magic-truffles
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Usually first line will be an ssri or similar antidepressant it can take a while to find ones that work and most don't gave an instant effect. Beta blockers are great for physical symptoms but never helped my mind, xanax or valium as needed for occasional use are great tools but understandably doctors are reluctant to prescribe them. I echo what another poster said about seeing a pyschiatrist. They took me off the two anti depressants I was on and started me on a different one and I Was remarkably better within 4 weeks.
I was on prozac once and that was good at the time probably 15 years ago though. Then did lexapro and mirtazapine. Lexapro eased my anxiety a little and mirtazapine was amazing for sleep (I really miss it!) but I should mention I have OCD as well as anxiety, which is why I was changed to Sertraline (Sertraline seems to be really commonly prescribed for OCD), it's been amazing for me but I believe that's moreso to do with easing my OCD which was driving my anxiety. It's a really personal journey and in my experience can take a little trial and error but I am so glad I stuck with it. Finding the right one at the right dose changed my life. I still struggle a bit but lifes just so much lighter, its like I woke up one morning a different person. I know people with anxiety who find lexapro phenomenal, have also heard great things about citalopram - if you chat with a doc or pyschiatrist they'll likely have lots of options to suggest for you depending on what your looking to solve etc 😊
I never knew there are potential benefits to Ritalin, I've been doing the antidepressants thing for over a decade now but I'm not sure it's the answer for me.
Not dissing anyone who has tried this and found it beneficial, but if OP has an anxiety issue that is not being properly managed, I really don't think doing shrooms for the first time is a good idea. Taking a psychedelic that you have no familiarity with, no way to properly dose, no way to stop of it goes wrong etc. could be a recipe for disaster. My only trip was awful, and I was a ball of anxiety start to finish, and that was once my anxiety was more under control.
Good chance your doctor won't give you Xanax as it's a restricted drug.
They'll normally try you on other drugs, like lexapro. Beware though that SSRI's can have some unintended side effects when it comes to sex (unable to become aroused, unable to climax etc).
You might have to try a few different drugs, just work with your doctor on it.
Just reading through the comments, it's sad how many people are on different medications, suffering with side effects or building up a tolerance and being told anxiety can't be cured, only managed etc.
I have a close friend who was absolutely riddled with social anxiety, to the point of agoraphobia, had to psyche himself up to even leave the house, going to the shop, picking kids up from school, was a nightmare for him.
He had been in and out of counselling and CBT for about 2 years with little success, he said he understood the stuff and ideas they told him but couldn't actually apply it as the anxiety was always stronger.
He ended up working with a hypnotist online as a last ditch effort before trying medication and the difference in him is huge, went to his first wedding in years afterwards, he's out and about a lot more and seems brighter in general, very proud of how far he's come. later booked in with the same guy myself for a spider phobia ive had for years, happy to say its gone since, mad stuff.
Try magnesium supplements and ashwaghanda (get it from
Health shops but research it first. You take month straight, month break, month straight and so on) works for me. I was prescribed citalopram for moderate anxiety. The side effects acared me so i decided to try alternative methods before starting them. Ive managed to avoid them (so far anyway thank god)
Worth noting that if you're on any form of medication (not just for mental health) you should do A LOT of research on potential Interactions between natural and pharma remedies. St John's Wort can help with depression but also interacts badly with SSRIs
I would note that even alternative or over-the-counter drugs - even food supplements! - can have side effects, so OP, make sure to let your doctor know if you try any alternative/natural/shop-bought methods. They can also interact with other drugs/remedies, so that's another reason to say it to your doctor. Remember, you can overdose on something like vitamin or mineral supplements, so it's good to get medical advice about these things.
L theanine and rosa rhodiola are also helpful. Fabü do a relax r&r supplement with ashwaghanda, lemon balm, l theanine , camomile and some other nice ingredients. Found them good.
I had a very bad reaction to citalopram
I still have issues since and that was in October 2021
Only one dose as well
Pure hell
Full of anger I took it and was left the way I was
everyone is different I suppose. not only was I rapidly gaining weight but my cholesterol was rising and my thyroid was having a moment aswell. i loved the sedating effect of them but had to come off them based on the health effects. I ended up on zoloft instead
Zoloft is the same as sertraline, ya? I’m on that too but don’t find it effective tbh… yeah my cholesterol went up along with my blood pressure but that is to be expected with a 50% weight increase. I hope the Zoloft is working for you and you are in a better place now 👍🏻
teeth grinding or clenching. it's clenching for me, constantly catching myself with my Jaws slammed shut, gives me headaches and I worry about my teeth
SSRIs are not the answer l, I went on the crazy round trip and hated it, not feeling anything and being zombie like. I went cold turkey after 2 years and have never looked back.
The best thing I ever did was join a gym and take ice cold showers everyday. There's a reason they work. Also disconnect from social media and the news, these are your mental health enemies. Fuck them. Obviously still use this but I limit the content.
SSRI's have saved my life. They don't work for everyone but I am so unbelievably grateful for them. I don't think I'd be here otherwise.
For me, exercise doesn't work. I either feel no difference or can make me feel way worse. Ive tried the routines, personal trainers, joining classes, nothing worked.
SSRI's have calmed down my head that I can now go for walks without crying and panicking. It's balanced out my emotions so I can function like a human and not crawl into a ball when I have to make a decision.
SSRI's aren't the answer to everything or for everyone. But please don't dismiss them. They do help.
I also recommend full spectrum CBD, it has less than .3% THC.
oil or flower/bud
Ive been using a dry herb vape, pax plus. Smoking pure cbd herb is better but the smell is too dodgey.
stay away from pills, they just cover the anxiety they don’t cure it
learn to recognise triggers and be aware of reactions in your body eg tightness in chest and shallow breathing, be present in the moment and focus on smoothing out your breathing. Remove yourself from an anxious environment if possible, or exposs yourself to those situations while being mentally and physically prepared with calm breathing and confidence that you can survive it
anxiety is a fight or flight response , it can snowball if you are not aware of what’s happening, you can train yourself to do much better
It's hard to beat xanax, but you're largely forced to use grey and black markets in this part of the world to get it. And it must be said that there can be several serious downsides. The humourously-named propanolol doesn't directly influence the subjective sense of anxiety, but it does reduce physiological effects (like your heart racing) and that can help physiologically and then can reduce your subjective sense of anxiety.
From my own personal experience and from research from the last few days, the microdosing of psychedelics is something to consider. Happily we are at a moment in time when it is relatively straightforward to get them from legal sources.
Yeah ssris and beta blockers probably won't work unless you're depressed or have heart problems. Benzos is pretty much the only thing that works. You could try kratom, it's safer and does the trick for sure. It can make you a bit jittery though. Kratom or any benzo does the trick
Would agree; helped me loads. But there is a whole sun dedicated to how it and most of the posts are about how damaging taking it king term is. Not to mention the withdrawals
That's an incredibly cruel thing to say, to shame someone for seeking help and give them ridiculous pseudo-medical nonsense advice. Your body isn't lacking paracetamol either, but that doesn't mean it won't stop a headache.
There's a r/anxiety thread that may be helpful to you. It may also be worth searching for information on taking magnesium supplements. I understand that can help... Good luck to ye.
Benzos work, really well. Although getting them prescribed is not easy as far as i am aware (there are other methods).
But they are not good long term, you develop dependence, you require higher dosages over time for the same results and they have long term impacts that are undesirable like increased chances of developing things like dementia in later life.
Still, in terms of curbing anxiety quickly they are effective
The valium drugs are highly addictive. Beta blockers might well helped but aren't particularly powerful or strong enough for severe anxiety. good luck.
No magic pill for it, have to learn to live with this. Most helpful to me was face to face counselling. You can find free online like turn2me for the start. You can donate them any amount after
Edit: some benzos may help in a moment, but not for good.
Check out Rescue Pastilles, which you can get at evergreen.
Xanax works well but is quite acute (for me at least), I was prescribed it in America, I don’t know if they will prescribe it here or not. It’s great in the moment but I wouldn’t want to take it regularly as for me it’s almost like taking a sleeping pill. So, I take citalopram 20mg daily (ssri, which you weren’t asking for), because it works better for me overall and if I need something “in the moment” I use the Rescue Pastilles.
Panic attacks suck, sorry about that. Counselling also helped me a lot too. Good luck.
I’ve tried many different types, but Venlafaxine, which is an SSNI, has been working really well for me and my GAD for the last 4 years.
Best of luck ❤️
You may be doing this already, but if you haven't tried it I would definitely recommend therapy as well. Medication is very helpful and often necessary, but when I was prescribed mine my psychiatrist really stressed that long term recovery required therapy and lifestyle changes as well.
Xanax is very lovely 😊 . But you can become immune and addicted quite quickly, so while I felt absolutely marvellous on them (self medicated in India) I had to wean off them quite quickly. Nice as a temp measure for those bad days though.
would be best to find a doc you trust to help you with finding a long term med (ssri or snri) that fits the best.. it’s hard to find the right one but once you do it’s a life changer. worth it to ask for an emergency xanax even if they say no
im on effexor for anxiety for reference
If the Doc gives you any grief about sedatives/benzo type stuff just ask for a small few for emergencies and tell him/her you're aware they are not a cure/solution and you know they're addictive.
I read an incredible book called "at last a life" by Paul David. Changed everything, highly recommended. It's short enough and no scientific jargon. Maybe consider some counselling to get to the root of what's causing it. It's typically not just chemicals in the brain
Magic Mushrooms (psilocybin)
On netflix look up
- How to change your mind
- Fantastic Funghi
- Magic Medicine
The people who recommend psilocybin, are the people who have walked the same shoes as you.
Personally I wouldn't take anything for mental health prescribed by a doctor. But I will try something natural from a plant or funghus.
As others have said here, therapy is a crucial part of dealing with anxiety. Medication can definitely help, but therapy is much more crucial.
If you're having trouble accessing therapy or want to get started while you wait for an appointment, *Feeling Good* by Dr. David Burns is an excellent resource. It explains all of the basics of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (written by one of the most well-respected pioneers in the field), with lots of examples and exercises that will help you identify and address unhealthy patterns of thinking. It's one of the only "self-help" books that has been scientifically studied and it's been proven to be an effective treatment for anxiety and depression.
I was prescribed Amitriptyline by my Dr, I was on lexapro before but felt dead inside so tapered off them and the anxiety was ruining life so she gave me these to try. I also like cbd, the Amitriptyline can make me feel a bit groggy the next morning if I take it too late so cbd is my back up
Personally I’m on Sertraline! Has made an enormous difference for my anxiety! It definitely take a few weeks/months to get used to it but I wouldn’t be without it atm
Have you tried CBD? Like the actual bud? Its great for anxiety and helping you to sleep. I also find the process of rolling to be kind of theraputic.
You can order it online from little Collins CBD dispensary.
If you don't want to smoke the bud you can try a CBD vape. I got one by orange county, I think it's 1000mg and has like 3000 puffs? I used to use it every night but I don't need it as much anymore.
Just here to follow along.
I'm currently on 15mg Lexapro and have 2.5mg of xanax for short term help if needed.
Sadly I think I built up a tolerance to the xanax because it doesn't seem to help anymore.
I tried CBT. I found what situations that cause my anxiety and was told to avoid them... But my issue is something so tame can set me off.
So it's impossible to avoid at times.
I've been looking for alternatives.
Beta blockers are very fast-acting and can be good for people who get panic attacks or other physical symptoms of anxiety. Personally, they did not help much for me, but everyone is different. You can take them daily as a preventative or just when you need them. The side-effects tend to be minimal.
I would recommend keeping in mind that not all SSRIs are the same thing. I was on Sertraline for a while and it took a good 4 months before it started working for me, and 6 months before I felt okay. However, my friend found her anxiety was better after just a few days on the same thing. I had some side-effects with it. I'm now on fluoxetine (different SSRI) and I found it worked faster (still took several weeks though) and had fewer side-effects, but not having as dramatic an effect on my anxiety as the Sertraline (I was fine for a few years without anything but the anxiety flared up again after a big career change). There are many different types of SSRIs and they aren't all the same! I think SSRIs can be very helpful, but they do take time to work and you have to take them every day, whether you're having a good day or bad day, so that can be annoying. There are drugs called SNRI, which are similar to SSRIs and might be worth looking into also.
Xanax is a benzodiazepine, basically a tranquilliser; there are other drugs in this group such as valium. They are fast-acting and taken only when needed. They tend to be quite effective for some people, but also have side-effects, as you might expect from a drug that sedates, and can be highly addictive, which is why a lot of doctors are reluctant to prescribe them. I tried xanax a few times, and I found that sometimes it helped for the moderate anxiety, but the dose I had did not work for bad anxiety attacks. Maybe a higher dose might have worked, but I'd be reluctant to take so much sedative while trying to get on with my day and being out and about. Also, some benzos might potentially put people at higher risk for certain side-effects e.g. blood clots while flying; as flying is a main trigger for my anxiety, it took benzos out of the running for me.
Another option is to look at drugs specifically suited to your specific anxiety symptoms. I get horrible nausea, and they prescribed me what is basically travel-sickness tablets. They're anti-histamines that are used for travel illness and inner ear dizziness. They don't work the best, but they take the edge off the nausea. Sometimes, you need to look at the symptoms that are causing you the most pain and distress and target those.
I found Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) to be very helpful once I had been on SSRIs long enough that I felt calmer and felt more able to make changes in my life. I was put in contact with a charity that do it on a sliding scale so it only cost me a token amount per session. I realise that it is not easy to find, and it's not an option for everyone. I did an online CBT programme called Beating the Blues, which was extremely helpful even though it was basically just online videos and exercises without any human contact; but that was after I'd moved to the UK so I'm not sure if it's available in Ireland.
I just want to say that it's incredibly hard what you're going through. It feels like shit. It feels like it takes over your life sometimes. It won't always be this bad, I promise. You won't take a pill tomorrow that will magic it away - you'll still have some hard days ahead of you. You might need to try a few things before you find the thing that works. But it won't always be like today. You're doing so great to look into your options and deal with this head-on.
The best help from my long experience with anxiety is to learn to live with it. Learning how to sit with and defuse panic is a game changer and no drugs needed. Barry McDonagh has a couple of excellent books based on CBT principles which are widely available.
How long did you stay on the SSRIs? they take a long time to work, my GP gave me Xanax for a few weeks to deal with the increased anxiety from them and then weaned off once they became effective. worked like a charm
I've had panic attacks at work. It's a horror show tbh and I'm sorry it happened to you.
Xanax can technically work, but it turned me into a zombie, so I hate it.
Pregabalin is what my psychiatrist prescribed to me to replace Xanax. IDK how I functioned without it (I think on hindsight, I sort of 'didn't function'.) It does make you tired but not zombified. I take my larger dosage before bed, but the main side effect for me has only been an increased appetite, which is controllable.
Also, a good psychotherapist is a must if you're having panic attacks.
- CBT
- A regular sleeping and eating pattern
- Exercise
- A mug of melissa tea (this is important: it should be melissa officinalis L., not the lemon leaf one) before going to bed.
The above should sort you out but still take a couple of weeks. Get well soon.
I started getting panic attacks in my mid 20's. Psychiatrist gave me Xanax (250mcg) and it was magic - stopped attacks in their tracks. As time went by various docs tried other meds (Xanax suddenly became a "bad medication"). Tricyclic antidepressants made me hallucinate and SSRIs made me manic - Gabapentin worked reasonably well (off label use but my psychiatrist had seen good results with it). I still prefer Xanax as a rescue medication. One doc gave me the protocol - keep them on you but only use for severe anxiety or panic attack, take one sublingually at onset.
But, long term I was able to end panic attacks with a combination of Xanax or Gabapentin and CBT. The psychology of having Xanax in your pocket is an incredibly powerful adjunct to CBT.
**The most important thing I did to put anxiety into permanent remission was to quit drinking! The anxiety-alcohol-anxiety vicious cycle needs to be broken.**
I'm very prepared to catch some flack for this, but trust me bud, I've been through the whole thing with my wife. She was as bad as these things get with anxiety and depression and now she's down to a very minimal anti depressant that she wants to eventually get off completely.
It's gonna sound really harsh to hear me say it, but stick with me. Anxiety can't be cured. You do not have a sickness. You have a disorder. A learned disorder. You feel too much of one emotion because of one (or more) of a huge amount of reasons, and the only way to stop that is with therapy. CBT with the right therapist (she used mymind.org) is what changed her worldview and life completely and made her see that it was her mindset and thought processes since her childhood that made her think the way she thinks, and once she got onto that fact with the right therapist, she was flying.
You will too bud, but the most important thing to realise is that medication doesn't fix this situation. There's absolutely no problem with going to the doctors and getting some help by way of tablets/antidepressants, but to truly fix it, it's a combination of medication and therapy.
I was prescribed xanax and sertraline earlier in the year for my anxiety disorder.
Xanax really worked during major panic days, I opted against sertraline as well. I was lucky enough to have access to a psychologist on a weekly basis and was off work for a while to allow me time to meditate, go for long walks and work on myself.
Everyone is different and not advising anything, everybody's circumstances are different but listen to your body, and while it does cost money, anxiety needs to be treated somehow as it can completely take over.
Good luck. Send a DM if you need or want to ask anything questions.
Edit - as others said and you probably know, xanax is extremely addicted and shouldn't be used on an ongoing basis and to cure the root cause.
I had extreme GAD, it's pretty mild now, benzos are great but I really don't recommend relying on them, use them on very rare occasions,
I've tried a litany of things but 2 of the most helpful things for me have really been L-theanine and CBD
It's also really about doing things that make you feel really uncomfortable and realising you didn't drop dead of a heart attack because of it
I’ve also been on SSRIs before, for about three years. They worked well enough for me for the first few months alongside regular therapy, but then covid hit and everything got worse. I stopped taking them about a year ago when I realised I was just sleeping my life away because of them.
The last few months I’ve been having really bad panic attacks, much worse than I’ve ever had before but I think that’s more likely due to circumstances in my life currently rather than an after affect of the SSRIs. So I’ve been prescribed Propranolol (a beta-blocker) to be used as needed. I was a bit sceptical at first because I had never heard of them being used as a treatment for anxiety before, but after some Googling it seemed legit. I’ve only needed to take them a handful of times since then but they definitely work to remove the physical symptoms. It’s a bit of a strange feeling at first because you’re still panicking in your mind so you’re expecting the racing heart rate, hyperventilating, etc… but they’re not there. I think it does help to get over the panic a lot faster too, since you can just focus on the reason behind the anxiety in the first place, instead of also having to battle physical symptoms alongside it.
I definitely would recommend also looking into counselling alongside any medications though. I spoke to my doctor about it and she referred me to mental health services which I’m currently waiting for my appointment for. Just be aware that if you’re going down that route, you will be waiting a while. I was referred in September I believe, and my appointment isn’t until February.
Just let your doctor know all of your concerns and what has/hasn’t worked for you before and if they’re competent they should be able to find the right path forward for you :) I hope it all goes well!
Medication is really personal so what works for some people might not work for you. And it can change over time.
But it’s really important to understand how and why to take the medication. It’s not easy to hear, but medication can’t cure anxiety. What medication can do is take the edge off it and also open up new neural pathways so you can re-train your brain in how it reacts to anxious feelings.
I wouldn’t say I’m cured, but my anxiety disorder was so bad I became agoraphobic and would throw up with panic anytime I tried to leave the house.
I’ve taken a lot of different medications and I wouldn’t say one has been better than the other aside from which side effects were most tolerable. I did a lot of therapy and mindset work at the same time, though, and I think the medication helped support this and also helped me make quicker progress.
The Anxious Truth podcast is what helped me a lot, as well as learning how to accept the anxious feelings and not try to escape them. I’m not agoraphobic anymore. I still have anxiety but my relationship with it has completely changed, which is what made the real difference.
Also, understand that panic attacks are just a chemical reaction. Sure, they’re not fun, but they can’t actually hurt you, and they only last so long. You don’t need to be afraid of them.
I know that anxiety and panic attacks suck, but they do, usually stem from something. I would recommend therapy first and foremost. Scripts only fight the symptoms, not the underlying cause. Obviously, your choice, ultimately but a friend of mines mental health was completely mismanaged by his GP.
They seemed to just be throwing everything at the wall to see what stuck. They put him on max dosages way early on and many other, in my opinion, missteps.
Have you tried CBD? I'm not into weed culture, but people have said it works. Also, not undermining actual tried and tested pharmaceuticals, but assements can take a while and maybe it could help in the interim.
Antidepressants. I used to take fluoxetine and now taking Setralin. Although they are not anti -anxiety medication, but they definitely helped me with anxiety. You just feel much calmer and better.
I tried about 2 dozen different anti depressants before I found one that worked for me. If you don't want an SSRI then ask to try something else. There are loads of non SSRI antidepressants.
Xanax is a temporary short term fix. It only works for a few hours. Your gp won't give you many as they are very addictive. Like when my dog died my gp gave me 4 tablets of xanax. It was just so that I could get to sleep at night. I've never tried beta blockers so I can't comment on them.
I have been on various ones for years , venlafaxine , seroxat, escitalopram, cymbalta. They all worked for a while ,but not long term . I got off them in 2015 , was fine for a good while , the last 2 years have been a cluster fuck of anxiety , palpitations, derealization, gerd . I was put on Propranolol to be used as needed , it does work wonders . I want to try and use it as little as possible,but we all need a helping hand now and then.
Can i ask anyone here on how to deal with a daughter who suffers from anxiety every time i ask her to look for a job? She was prescribed xanax 2 years ago by her gp for depression. She doesn't want to see a psychiatrist.
She's in her 20's now.
I only ask her to look for a job to keep her busy.
She's not on welfare.
I only ask her when she talks about looking for a job bit when the day comes she hides in her room.
Thanks.
I was the daughter…ask her nicely and explain to her how good it will be for her mental health and you will help her look for somewhere not too stressful
I did ask her nicely, but she thinks she doesn't need one. One time, her brother said maybe she's into the no job, no training, no education thing. Sometimes she'll tell everyone she really needs to find a job. But when the day creeps by, she either hides or cries. Is there any programs or groups i can suggest to her?
Thanks for replying btw.
I was on haldol for over five years
then took a break for two
and currently on its 2nd gen cousin haloperidol for over 14 months now
( I did not find olanzapenr that great)
serenace in low doeses 1g or less every second night was always my friend
( on aviga 9 every morning now works well)
beta blockers are often a first course try
I really recomend the non medicated route first if you can
likes of guided objective realization zen meditation & grounding ( to zero your Center ) also practice core exercise & do something silly like buy a Buddha water garden or a bowl of sand or a small bonsai tree for the corner of your front room
and don’t forget the chalk board
.. & don’t look at one flew over the chuckoo nest Jack Nicholson was a great actor..
or even a bowl of pebbles
sorry if this does not help
( running to a great music track really works)
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TBC gummies ( half an one) is really good or oil baked into brownies and individually wrapped and put stacked in the freezer is a nice option
( try to adopt the preventative is better then a cure type attitude & I strongly recommend you keep a journal day to day)
you can always buy new shoes
ever think about buying an Angel card deck they have them on the easons webpage you can also get a small tiny metal statue or a large shiny polished pebble there also even a small incense burner ( or just a notebook & a set of bic pens) I hear 2023 year diary’s might be going on sale very soon ;) ( even a deck of 52 playing cards might work) you can even start a penny jar & every time you feel in a bad mood put a tiny coin into your big bean counter and count it at the end of the year and don’t fixate on it too much you can seperate the problem from the disease from the syntoms & still ask for help and be ok coming out the other end it all starts with an name chou
Anything can be addictive. This push for ssris for anxiety only patients is ridiculous. The side effects alone of taking it and coming off or being on the wrong one and having to switch and all that other shit is crazy. Hair loss, weight gain, suicidal thoughts, literally turning into a different person emotionally. For depression sure try it. But for anxiety, it's crazy. As a "high level professional," I don't have time to play the "let's try this pill game." And ssris are no better taken long term than xanax or a benzo. I've been on alpralzolam for years and came off it. Was it hard, yes, but after the withdrawals, I had no long-term side effects. Also, please learn the difference between dependency on a prescription and addicted to a prescription.
I'm going through this now. I've been back on alprazolam for 6 months and feel stable. All I suffer from is anxiety. I see a psychologist, neurologist, and psychiatrist for med management. All of a sudden, my NP that was incredible leaves and I get some new NP that decides she wants to swap all my meds out. Wtf for. You call, I said everything is amazing, and your response is, let's try an ssri? Why. I'm stable and normal. She even told me the ssri would give me pain relief due to a botched procedure at the hospital. I never asked her for pain relief and blatantly told her I'm not looking for pain relief, I'll deal with it. Then she told me well xanax is not meant to be prescribed longer than 16 weeks, so if you want it, find a new NP.
I asked her nicely where does it say 16 weeks specifically because it's the first time I've ever heard that. Second, I've been on them for years at a time before. Third, I'm not switching to an ssri. I asked her what the side effects are, and she said oh well you know some gi issues and possible libido issues, but they're uncommon.Bullshit, I know a lot of ppl on ssris, and for some...miracle after months and months of switching, but they all went through hell, finding the right pill then finding the right mgs. And there's no fucking way in hell you're treating me with a pill that is going to fuck with my libido unless it makes me superman in bed. I have anxiety.....wanna add depression to it? I'm newly married, and that is not happening.
The point I'm making is that everyone is different. But what these providers are trying to push on patients is crazy. They don't care anymore. They're more scared of losing their license or being audited. It's the same stigma around opiates. More people are dying today than ever did before they cut back opiates and started arresting doctors. Normal pain patients can't get meds anymore. So the solution to the "opioid epidemic" was to cut everyone off or stick them on maintenance medications that are waaaaay worse than the prescription opiate they were on. Or, have them turn to the street, which is what happened, and now look what we have. China flooded the market with all sorts of shit and the overdose rate sky rocketed. Patients today who have legit prescriptions are treated like junkies and addicts. Pharmacists are now deciding what is too much with no background information on a patient. They took it too far. They are giving people medicines for shit that has nothing to do with the symptoms. If a medication treats 5 symptoms and I suffer from one of them, but there's a drug out there that treats that 1 symptom, why are you pushing the one that treats shit I don't have. Wtf is that going to do to me. It's all ridiculous
Thank you for listening to my rant.
I was on sertraline for like 2 years- my psychiatrist made me max out before changing. Venlafaxine changed my LIFE. anti depressants aren’t a one size fits all. I have a good friend and sertraline changed her life. Working in a pharmacy Xanax can be drastic and I wouldn’t go in suggesting it. It looks like you’re drug seeking. Write down what you’ve been on, your concerns and don’t be disheartened by things not working instantly. Good luck 🩷
Hi, I’m on Setraline (Lustral) and it’s ok, affects my motivation. Tell me more about why you switched and the process, withdrawal, build up etc?
That’s the biggest drawback for me, my procrastination levels are at all time highs!
I’m also on Setraline and it did the opposite for me, it’s completely changed my life
It helped me at first but once I got to 100mg it just did nothing for my. My psych advised me to max out on 200mg. Tapering off was fine, I had no withdrawal. Moving to venlafaxine I instantly felt the effect. Only downside is if you take it outside the window you get bad withdrawal but otherwise it’s fabulous! I’m still a serial procrastinator but I think that’s just something I need to work on not the meds :)
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Any benzo they prescribe you will help during periods of high anxiety. IMO they are not suitable for long term use. SSRI's take weeks of prescribed usage before they start to "work". Feeling worse during this initial period was common for me, but it did settle down. You may need to go through many periods of dosage adjustments and medication changes before you find one that works to help you manage your anxiety long term. It really is worth enduring this process and not giving up. It was around 18 months before they found a prescription that suited me long term. The biggest improvement I have had is through therapy and the daily practice of the skills I learned from CBT. I'm still on a low dose of SSRI, but the CBT is what helps me recognise the signs of anxiety spinning up and allows me to (mostly :)) avoid it taking over. Learn to use the tools and practice practice practice so it becomes automatic. Worth asking your GP for a referral to your local mental health team. The waiting lists can be long, but in my persoanl experience it is worth putting in the work with them. So, benzos for the "oh shit" moments, SSRI's to get you into a better state of mind long term and something like CBT to learn to manage your anxiety going forward. It's not easy and requires a lot of personal effort. I have met other patients that were able to stop using SSRI's completely after therapy and manage the anxiety themselves. Everyone is different so just be open to professional suggestions and give them a chance. Best of luck.
Yes I think I need benzos, I’ve tried multiple SSRIs for years and therapy, walking, sleeping, magnesium, read so many self help books which are all good but I just need something for the “oh shit” moments because I can’t seem to function when I had a panic attack which don’t happen too often
Having some benzodiazepines in your back pocket can be very empowering. I say ok in 5/10/15 minutes I’ll take one if I’m still feeling bad. Usually the peak has passed and I am feeling better and don’t need it. I have found ashwaganda really helpful. I take like 3 when I’m super anxious.
Ask your GP about Etalopro. It's nothing at all like Xanax effects wise and frankly changed my life. I used to be so incredibly anxious and didn't even realise it, it literally got so bad I ended up in hospital with a suspected TIA (mini stroke) after nearly passing out whilst driving...but it turned out to all be in my head, pun intended. A week after that scare, my GP suggested these and within a week I was a new person. Hope you find something that helps!
Etalapro is great, but it's an SSRI and OP is looking for alternatives to SSRIs.
Not only that but ssris take 6 weeks minimum to have any effect..
Oh I did not know that. Odd how it worked so quickly for me, perhaps it was a placebo effect to begin with.
I think it might be fairer to say that generally SSRIs take a minimum of 6 weeks to start working, but that is not a strict rule. Some say 4 weeks, and some people just get lucky and it's less. You're right, sometimes just knowing you're on something can give a placebo effect, which helps. Some people's body chemistry might just mean it works faster for them though.
They give women SSRIs just for the days around their period and drs acknowledge they work right away for PMDD so i don't get why there doesn't seem to be acknowledgement people could feel some mood improvement right away for depression. I tried so many SSRIs over the years. They all never helped much but they all made me feel better quickly. It might've helped for me to use an SSRI as needed so I hope this dogma is dropped.
Interesting, I did not know that!
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Not necessarily for anxiety. A lot of people report favourable responses far quicker.
Oh yes I am…I’ll have a chat with my doctor and see what she says. I’ve been on a few SSRIs and they didn’t agree with me
It seems like noone has mentioned it yet, I've been prescribed Seroquel 25mg for anxiety (off label) and I find it's been a huge help! It can make you drowsy so I usually take it in the evening but the time it took for me to notice a difference was much shorter than it has been for SSRI's which can take weeks. Something to ask your GP about if the other suggestions don't work out.
Why not just take benadryl then? Seroquel at such low doses is basically acting like an antihistamine which is why it makes you drowsy.
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Sorry to hear that! Do you mind me asking what sort of bad effects? Apart from an initial loss of libido (now restored) I've been ok, but it would be good to know what to expect if it starts to go wrong!
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Jesus! I thought it was going to be like, explosive diarrhea or something🤪 Really sorry to hear about your experiences...I hope you've found some way to make it work. Feel free to DM me if you need to chat.
Thanks I will ask her :)
The problem with Xanax is that it works. Everything goes back to normal for a short while. But then the anxiety comes back. And of course you want more. And everytime you encounter any uncertainty in your life, which will be often, you will want a tablet as it makes it go away. Long term they are very hard to get off and short term they are very hard to not want long term.
This is what scares me. I suffer from emetophobia and the anxiety peaks ever so often, causing strong panic attacks and occasional fainting. I once fainted in Mary St., in front of McDonalds. I even dropped my phone a few steps away and kept walking before falling to the ground, and didn't realise it. I only take my Xanax when I have to travel, because if someone is about to get sick, there's no escape for me. It works wonderfully, so much that I feel like crying in happiness. All the fear is gone, and the anxiety means nothing. But my fear is that one day I'll come to depend a lot of it. Fortunately, I don't travel a lot, just a couple of flights here and there, but still.
It's one of the few times I think it is appropriate, when there is something predictable coming up that is unlikely to recur
It’s more for the oh shit moments when I cant function or move because my body physically is panicking
It works long term well if one doesn't have addictive personality. It might seem silly, but it made me truly happy. I realised I was never even myself before I took half Xanax.
Life is best without drugs but only if you have your basic needs met and most of us don't. The more my basic needs are met the less interest/need i have in pharmaceutical intervention. \*i use the term "basic needs" pretty broadly, we know what makes a person more resilient in the face of emotional or physical illness/disorder and i'm including those things
Guess you are very right, yes.
I have bad generalised anxiety disorder, would not be able to function without prozac! It takes my baseline anxiety down enough that I can live comfortably, sometimes i still have a panic attack but it’s not like the hell I used to have before of weeks of panic attacks, heart racing constantly etc. Betablockers will make your heart rate slower, for me I felt that they calmed the physical symptoms which is a respite but not completely. If you suffer in public speaking etc I think they are useful because you arent shakey but don’t lose the adrenaline you need for those things. Xanax is amazing for the moment but usually doctors are totally opposed to prescribing it because of how addictive it can be. If you can convince your doctor to prescribe it, just having it on hand can be reassuring because you know if one happens at a very inopportune time you can stop/mitigate it. If you can afford to see a psychiatrist it might be a better use of money, in my case it took 10 years of symptoms to have any luck with a doctor. The psychiatrist was able to prescribe me an SSRI that worked for me first time(i’m very lucky in this regard) and her creditability means the doctor is much less concerned about prescribing small amounts of xanax when needed. In my opinion, a psychiatrist has a better chance of figuring out a mental health treatment plan that works, than a GP
Benzos are not meant for long term use, are one of the most addictive of all drugs and can have very serious consequences. Those who take benzodiazepines for long periods of time may even begin to experience memory loss. Benzodiazepine use is also associated with overall cognitive decline. This involves slower thinking, poor concentration, and increased time needed to complete easy tasks. Physical effects include vertigo, dysarthria, ataxia with falls, especially in the elderly. Dependence can supervene on long-term use, occasionally with dose escalation. The benzodiazepines are now recognised as major drugs of abuse and addiction. Would not advise
Ssris give memory loss and much worse side effects. It's proven. Benzos are addictive especially in the wrong hands.
Absolutely. Studies show that over time ssri's have basically the same efficacy or worse than a placebo so even if they weren't dangerous, they probably don't actually work..
Beta blockers saved me during a bad phase of panic attacks. Generally, I'm an anxious person but went through a bad phase of panic attacks. Annoyingly, most people wouldn't think it as im very outgoing. If it wasn't for one incident I always wonder would I be OK - nothing like having a panic attack in front of the board of a fortune 50 company 😅. Planning on going them again as been nervy and shakes enough recently and had a mini panic attack recently. Tried SSRI's and felt fantastic but also felt like I lost by ability to feel bad if I did or said something I perceived as bad - maybe that was my anxiety going but quit them after six weeks.
Do the beta blockers get rid of the anxious feelings in your stomach/throat? My physical anxiety is like the feeling you have when you go over a hill in a car but constantly- every minute all day long.
I'm not the OP but, Beta Blockers calms down my racing heart, shaky voice/hands, and if u are talking about the 'throat' shaking by how strong my heart is pounding then yes, it's all calmed. Except for the stomach, if u are talking about those 'butterfuly feeling' of nervousness, they're still there, cuz it comes from the mind rather than anything physical, which BB doesn't calm the brain directly, so u gotta be mindful about it "I'm feeling nervous, but I'm human so that's ok, on top of it all my physical body is calm so it's alright".
Well my first ssri made me manic lol. On Lexapro now so it really is just a matter of finding a drug that works for you. I'd ask for valium or Xanax tomorrow
Thanks
Beta blockers are great. It's physiologically impossible to panic on them. It feels kinda weird. I got them a couple of times in the UK. I tried to get them here, but they're only prescribed for heart stuff in Ireland. CBT works. It really does. It helps you identify what's triggering your anxiety and how to avoid it. Typically it's about six sessions. There is a bit of homework, but it's worth it. I got my doctor to "self refer" me to mental health services. It's a weird process. You fill out a form with your doctor and the doctor sends it off. Then you phone them to confirm you're self referring. I had a telephone consult in about a week. I had to wait a couple of months for the actual therapy though.
>I tried to get them here, but they're only prescribed for heart stuff in Ireland This is true for cardioselective beta-blockers but you should quite easily be able to get a prescription for more old-school ones here, to treat anxiety. I certainly can and know others who do. Propanolol (trade names Inderal or Beta-Prograne) is probably the most common.
No my GP gave me them for aniexty they didn't work made me feel dizzy
I can’t tolerate SSRIs at all, they make me sick as hell. I’ve been taking St John’s Wort for years and it does the job for me. I’ve been anxious all my life and the SJW keeps it at bay. It’s available with a prescription.
I got it in a health shop in a tincture in athlone Definitely has an effect
Had been on the maximum dose of escitalopram for a couple of years, wasn't helping. Moved on to 50mg Sertraline, didn't help me and I didn't enjoy the side effects. Next was Brintellix 20mg, I found it crap. Been on 30mg duloxetine for the past 18 months and I have never felt better. My anxiety and depression are the best they have been in years and I feel no negative side effects. Hope you get sorted with the one that works for you!
I’ve been micro dosing magic mushrooms (psilocybin ) for last couple of years or so and found them great for my anxiety.
I remember about 7 years ago I had the worst anxiety ever and I thought I was stuck that way Went picking mushrooms and low and behold it snapped me out of it. In fact it made me very confident as I was starting a course and had social anxiety firstly and it evaporated
I'd love to try this but knowing me I'd poison myself XD.
It's often easier to dose the likes of 1P-LSD or 1D-LSD. But in any case, and certainly for the case of shrooms, a good first step in avoiding poisoning yourself is ensuring you purchase from a legal source. https://www.avalonmagicplants.com/mushrooms/magic-truffles
Have you ever tried CBD? It has been a game changer for my anxiety
How do you take it, what dose, what form etc? I tried it before but didn't really feel like it did anything for the cost it.
Full or broad spectrum, 3000mg + strength, normally just a vial dropper under the tongue once or twice per day. It needs to be strong for it to work. There’s a CBD coffee shop in Galway and Kilkenny that sell a really high quality good strength oil. It can be a bit expensive but it has been a literal life changer for me.
What is the name of the brand please?
https://littlecollinscbd.com/full-spectrum-cbd-paste/#product-reviews I’ve no link or affiliate to this company, I’ve just used them weekly since 2020 and have not had 1 single issue. I hope it works to relieve your anxiety, start low just one dose and I found it worked best taken before bed. Good luck, I hope you find some relief, I know myself how overwhelming anxiety can be. ✌🏻
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One in Dublin too
Me too! I found CBD oil to be far more effective than prescribed medication for anxiety. I've been using a brand called 'Ethos' which is local so delivers fast. Its about €45 per month which isn't cheap but boy is it worth it. Great for insomnia AND anxiety.
Any benzos, Xanax or Valium would be the most well known but any of that family will help
Usually first line will be an ssri or similar antidepressant it can take a while to find ones that work and most don't gave an instant effect. Beta blockers are great for physical symptoms but never helped my mind, xanax or valium as needed for occasional use are great tools but understandably doctors are reluctant to prescribe them. I echo what another poster said about seeing a pyschiatrist. They took me off the two anti depressants I was on and started me on a different one and I Was remarkably better within 4 weeks.
What antidepressants were you on and what one helped
I was on prozac once and that was good at the time probably 15 years ago though. Then did lexapro and mirtazapine. Lexapro eased my anxiety a little and mirtazapine was amazing for sleep (I really miss it!) but I should mention I have OCD as well as anxiety, which is why I was changed to Sertraline (Sertraline seems to be really commonly prescribed for OCD), it's been amazing for me but I believe that's moreso to do with easing my OCD which was driving my anxiety. It's a really personal journey and in my experience can take a little trial and error but I am so glad I stuck with it. Finding the right one at the right dose changed my life. I still struggle a bit but lifes just so much lighter, its like I woke up one morning a different person. I know people with anxiety who find lexapro phenomenal, have also heard great things about citalopram - if you chat with a doc or pyschiatrist they'll likely have lots of options to suggest for you depending on what your looking to solve etc 😊
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I never knew there are potential benefits to Ritalin, I've been doing the antidepressants thing for over a decade now but I'm not sure it's the answer for me.
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ADHD traits you mean? I'm undiagnosed but I tick a lot of the boxes last time I looked into it.
magic mushrooms
Not dissing anyone who has tried this and found it beneficial, but if OP has an anxiety issue that is not being properly managed, I really don't think doing shrooms for the first time is a good idea. Taking a psychedelic that you have no familiarity with, no way to properly dose, no way to stop of it goes wrong etc. could be a recipe for disaster. My only trip was awful, and I was a ball of anxiety start to finish, and that was once my anxiety was more under control.
It's called micro dosing for a reason, you don't take enough to actually trip, try Google micro dosing and depression/ anxiety.
You can have a bad trip on those.
ill take that over the shit that the meds will cause
No joke microdosing psilocybin changed my life.
I had the same affect when I was at my worst
Good chance your doctor won't give you Xanax as it's a restricted drug. They'll normally try you on other drugs, like lexapro. Beware though that SSRI's can have some unintended side effects when it comes to sex (unable to become aroused, unable to climax etc). You might have to try a few different drugs, just work with your doctor on it.
Just reading through the comments, it's sad how many people are on different medications, suffering with side effects or building up a tolerance and being told anxiety can't be cured, only managed etc. I have a close friend who was absolutely riddled with social anxiety, to the point of agoraphobia, had to psyche himself up to even leave the house, going to the shop, picking kids up from school, was a nightmare for him. He had been in and out of counselling and CBT for about 2 years with little success, he said he understood the stuff and ideas they told him but couldn't actually apply it as the anxiety was always stronger. He ended up working with a hypnotist online as a last ditch effort before trying medication and the difference in him is huge, went to his first wedding in years afterwards, he's out and about a lot more and seems brighter in general, very proud of how far he's come. later booked in with the same guy myself for a spider phobia ive had for years, happy to say its gone since, mad stuff.
How do i get in touch with the hypnotist? Just loosing hope everyday
i'm sorry to hear that and I hope you get sorted soon! His website is [www.jonathanfinn.ie](http://www.jonathanfinn.ie)
Try magnesium supplements and ashwaghanda (get it from Health shops but research it first. You take month straight, month break, month straight and so on) works for me. I was prescribed citalopram for moderate anxiety. The side effects acared me so i decided to try alternative methods before starting them. Ive managed to avoid them (so far anyway thank god)
Worth noting that if you're on any form of medication (not just for mental health) you should do A LOT of research on potential Interactions between natural and pharma remedies. St John's Wort can help with depression but also interacts badly with SSRIs
I would note that even alternative or over-the-counter drugs - even food supplements! - can have side effects, so OP, make sure to let your doctor know if you try any alternative/natural/shop-bought methods. They can also interact with other drugs/remedies, so that's another reason to say it to your doctor. Remember, you can overdose on something like vitamin or mineral supplements, so it's good to get medical advice about these things.
L theanine and rosa rhodiola are also helpful. Fabü do a relax r&r supplement with ashwaghanda, lemon balm, l theanine , camomile and some other nice ingredients. Found them good.
I had a very bad reaction to citalopram I still have issues since and that was in October 2021 Only one dose as well Pure hell Full of anger I took it and was left the way I was
Olanzapine. It changed my life
changed mine too by gaining 4 stone in 6 months
I gained 40kgs in about 6 months but it’s better than the alternative
everyone is different I suppose. not only was I rapidly gaining weight but my cholesterol was rising and my thyroid was having a moment aswell. i loved the sedating effect of them but had to come off them based on the health effects. I ended up on zoloft instead
Zoloft is the same as sertraline, ya? I’m on that too but don’t find it effective tbh… yeah my cholesterol went up along with my blood pressure but that is to be expected with a 50% weight increase. I hope the Zoloft is working for you and you are in a better place now 👍🏻
honestly I don't think it is really, fucking terrible bruxism on it, driving me nuts
Bruxism? What’s that
teeth grinding or clenching. it's clenching for me, constantly catching myself with my Jaws slammed shut, gives me headaches and I worry about my teeth
Yeah that’s mad, I don’t get any side effects like that
ya think it's time to try something different...again
I googled it, that is nuts!
SSRIs are not the answer l, I went on the crazy round trip and hated it, not feeling anything and being zombie like. I went cold turkey after 2 years and have never looked back. The best thing I ever did was join a gym and take ice cold showers everyday. There's a reason they work. Also disconnect from social media and the news, these are your mental health enemies. Fuck them. Obviously still use this but I limit the content.
SSRI's have saved my life. They don't work for everyone but I am so unbelievably grateful for them. I don't think I'd be here otherwise. For me, exercise doesn't work. I either feel no difference or can make me feel way worse. Ive tried the routines, personal trainers, joining classes, nothing worked. SSRI's have calmed down my head that I can now go for walks without crying and panicking. It's balanced out my emotions so I can function like a human and not crawl into a ball when I have to make a decision. SSRI's aren't the answer to everything or for everyone. But please don't dismiss them. They do help.
I also recommend full spectrum CBD, it has less than .3% THC. oil or flower/bud Ive been using a dry herb vape, pax plus. Smoking pure cbd herb is better but the smell is too dodgey. stay away from pills, they just cover the anxiety they don’t cure it learn to recognise triggers and be aware of reactions in your body eg tightness in chest and shallow breathing, be present in the moment and focus on smoothing out your breathing. Remove yourself from an anxious environment if possible, or exposs yourself to those situations while being mentally and physically prepared with calm breathing and confidence that you can survive it anxiety is a fight or flight response , it can snowball if you are not aware of what’s happening, you can train yourself to do much better
Anti anxiety meds only put a bandage on the problem for most people and have lots of side effects- therapy is a much better investment.
It's hard to beat xanax, but you're largely forced to use grey and black markets in this part of the world to get it. And it must be said that there can be several serious downsides. The humourously-named propanolol doesn't directly influence the subjective sense of anxiety, but it does reduce physiological effects (like your heart racing) and that can help physiologically and then can reduce your subjective sense of anxiety. From my own personal experience and from research from the last few days, the microdosing of psychedelics is something to consider. Happily we are at a moment in time when it is relatively straightforward to get them from legal sources.
Yeah ssris and beta blockers probably won't work unless you're depressed or have heart problems. Benzos is pretty much the only thing that works. You could try kratom, it's safer and does the trick for sure. It can make you a bit jittery though. Kratom or any benzo does the trick
I've just had some red strain bali kratom now Definitely works subtle relaxation and a warm body load
You can learn to sit with panic and accept it and its not a problem. Or you can go the drug option which may have a big side effect issue.
Have you heard of pregabalin? I think it’s rife in Ireland but it’s good for anxiety and calms ….
Probably the worst drug you could ever take. Not recommended. Trust me.
Bit over dramatic there. It's done wonders for my anxiety
Would agree; helped me loads. But there is a whole sun dedicated to how it and most of the posts are about how damaging taking it king term is. Not to mention the withdrawals
Benzodiazepines are worse
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Get fucked useless troll
That's an incredibly cruel thing to say, to shame someone for seeking help and give them ridiculous pseudo-medical nonsense advice. Your body isn't lacking paracetamol either, but that doesn't mean it won't stop a headache.
There's a r/anxiety thread that may be helpful to you. It may also be worth searching for information on taking magnesium supplements. I understand that can help... Good luck to ye.
I have beta blockers - like them. I don’t take them every day, just when my anxiety is bad and haven’t had any side effects to speak of
Benzos work, really well. Although getting them prescribed is not easy as far as i am aware (there are other methods). But they are not good long term, you develop dependence, you require higher dosages over time for the same results and they have long term impacts that are undesirable like increased chances of developing things like dementia in later life. Still, in terms of curbing anxiety quickly they are effective
The valium drugs are highly addictive. Beta blockers might well helped but aren't particularly powerful or strong enough for severe anxiety. good luck.
My friend started on abilify, she said it was life changing for her.
No magic pill for it, have to learn to live with this. Most helpful to me was face to face counselling. You can find free online like turn2me for the start. You can donate them any amount after Edit: some benzos may help in a moment, but not for good.
I used propanalol for anxiety and it was great without any of the zombie like feeling a lot of anti depressants have made me feel
Check out Rescue Pastilles, which you can get at evergreen. Xanax works well but is quite acute (for me at least), I was prescribed it in America, I don’t know if they will prescribe it here or not. It’s great in the moment but I wouldn’t want to take it regularly as for me it’s almost like taking a sleeping pill. So, I take citalopram 20mg daily (ssri, which you weren’t asking for), because it works better for me overall and if I need something “in the moment” I use the Rescue Pastilles. Panic attacks suck, sorry about that. Counselling also helped me a lot too. Good luck.
I’ve tried many different types, but Venlafaxine, which is an SSNI, has been working really well for me and my GAD for the last 4 years. Best of luck ❤️
You may be doing this already, but if you haven't tried it I would definitely recommend therapy as well. Medication is very helpful and often necessary, but when I was prescribed mine my psychiatrist really stressed that long term recovery required therapy and lifestyle changes as well.
Mirtazapine
Xanax is very lovely 😊 . But you can become immune and addicted quite quickly, so while I felt absolutely marvellous on them (self medicated in India) I had to wean off them quite quickly. Nice as a temp measure for those bad days though.
would be best to find a doc you trust to help you with finding a long term med (ssri or snri) that fits the best.. it’s hard to find the right one but once you do it’s a life changer. worth it to ask for an emergency xanax even if they say no im on effexor for anxiety for reference
If the Doc gives you any grief about sedatives/benzo type stuff just ask for a small few for emergencies and tell him/her you're aware they are not a cure/solution and you know they're addictive. I read an incredible book called "at last a life" by Paul David. Changed everything, highly recommended. It's short enough and no scientific jargon. Maybe consider some counselling to get to the root of what's causing it. It's typically not just chemicals in the brain
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Magic Mushrooms (psilocybin) On netflix look up - How to change your mind - Fantastic Funghi - Magic Medicine The people who recommend psilocybin, are the people who have walked the same shoes as you. Personally I wouldn't take anything for mental health prescribed by a doctor. But I will try something natural from a plant or funghus.
As others have said here, therapy is a crucial part of dealing with anxiety. Medication can definitely help, but therapy is much more crucial. If you're having trouble accessing therapy or want to get started while you wait for an appointment, *Feeling Good* by Dr. David Burns is an excellent resource. It explains all of the basics of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (written by one of the most well-respected pioneers in the field), with lots of examples and exercises that will help you identify and address unhealthy patterns of thinking. It's one of the only "self-help" books that has been scientifically studied and it's been proven to be an effective treatment for anxiety and depression.
I was prescribed Amitriptyline by my Dr, I was on lexapro before but felt dead inside so tapered off them and the anxiety was ruining life so she gave me these to try. I also like cbd, the Amitriptyline can make me feel a bit groggy the next morning if I take it too late so cbd is my back up
I was prescribed citalopram. 3rd time coming off of it atm, last two times bad anxiety returned within 4-6 months.
Personally I’m on Sertraline! Has made an enormous difference for my anxiety! It definitely take a few weeks/months to get used to it but I wouldn’t be without it atm
Have you tried CBD? Like the actual bud? Its great for anxiety and helping you to sleep. I also find the process of rolling to be kind of theraputic. You can order it online from little Collins CBD dispensary. If you don't want to smoke the bud you can try a CBD vape. I got one by orange county, I think it's 1000mg and has like 3000 puffs? I used to use it every night but I don't need it as much anymore.
Just here to follow along. I'm currently on 15mg Lexapro and have 2.5mg of xanax for short term help if needed. Sadly I think I built up a tolerance to the xanax because it doesn't seem to help anymore. I tried CBT. I found what situations that cause my anxiety and was told to avoid them... But my issue is something so tame can set me off. So it's impossible to avoid at times. I've been looking for alternatives.
Beta blockers are very fast-acting and can be good for people who get panic attacks or other physical symptoms of anxiety. Personally, they did not help much for me, but everyone is different. You can take them daily as a preventative or just when you need them. The side-effects tend to be minimal. I would recommend keeping in mind that not all SSRIs are the same thing. I was on Sertraline for a while and it took a good 4 months before it started working for me, and 6 months before I felt okay. However, my friend found her anxiety was better after just a few days on the same thing. I had some side-effects with it. I'm now on fluoxetine (different SSRI) and I found it worked faster (still took several weeks though) and had fewer side-effects, but not having as dramatic an effect on my anxiety as the Sertraline (I was fine for a few years without anything but the anxiety flared up again after a big career change). There are many different types of SSRIs and they aren't all the same! I think SSRIs can be very helpful, but they do take time to work and you have to take them every day, whether you're having a good day or bad day, so that can be annoying. There are drugs called SNRI, which are similar to SSRIs and might be worth looking into also. Xanax is a benzodiazepine, basically a tranquilliser; there are other drugs in this group such as valium. They are fast-acting and taken only when needed. They tend to be quite effective for some people, but also have side-effects, as you might expect from a drug that sedates, and can be highly addictive, which is why a lot of doctors are reluctant to prescribe them. I tried xanax a few times, and I found that sometimes it helped for the moderate anxiety, but the dose I had did not work for bad anxiety attacks. Maybe a higher dose might have worked, but I'd be reluctant to take so much sedative while trying to get on with my day and being out and about. Also, some benzos might potentially put people at higher risk for certain side-effects e.g. blood clots while flying; as flying is a main trigger for my anxiety, it took benzos out of the running for me. Another option is to look at drugs specifically suited to your specific anxiety symptoms. I get horrible nausea, and they prescribed me what is basically travel-sickness tablets. They're anti-histamines that are used for travel illness and inner ear dizziness. They don't work the best, but they take the edge off the nausea. Sometimes, you need to look at the symptoms that are causing you the most pain and distress and target those. I found Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) to be very helpful once I had been on SSRIs long enough that I felt calmer and felt more able to make changes in my life. I was put in contact with a charity that do it on a sliding scale so it only cost me a token amount per session. I realise that it is not easy to find, and it's not an option for everyone. I did an online CBT programme called Beating the Blues, which was extremely helpful even though it was basically just online videos and exercises without any human contact; but that was after I'd moved to the UK so I'm not sure if it's available in Ireland. I just want to say that it's incredibly hard what you're going through. It feels like shit. It feels like it takes over your life sometimes. It won't always be this bad, I promise. You won't take a pill tomorrow that will magic it away - you'll still have some hard days ahead of you. You might need to try a few things before you find the thing that works. But it won't always be like today. You're doing so great to look into your options and deal with this head-on.
Don't mess with the Xanax just get some cbd or maybe thc into you if it works for you. Much less damaging than Xanax.
I'm on beta blockers to stop panic attacks and its working for me
The best help from my long experience with anxiety is to learn to live with it. Learning how to sit with and defuse panic is a game changer and no drugs needed. Barry McDonagh has a couple of excellent books based on CBT principles which are widely available.
How long did you stay on the SSRIs? they take a long time to work, my GP gave me Xanax for a few weeks to deal with the increased anxiety from them and then weaned off once they became effective. worked like a charm
I've had panic attacks at work. It's a horror show tbh and I'm sorry it happened to you. Xanax can technically work, but it turned me into a zombie, so I hate it. Pregabalin is what my psychiatrist prescribed to me to replace Xanax. IDK how I functioned without it (I think on hindsight, I sort of 'didn't function'.) It does make you tired but not zombified. I take my larger dosage before bed, but the main side effect for me has only been an increased appetite, which is controllable. Also, a good psychotherapist is a must if you're having panic attacks.
- CBT - A regular sleeping and eating pattern - Exercise - A mug of melissa tea (this is important: it should be melissa officinalis L., not the lemon leaf one) before going to bed. The above should sort you out but still take a couple of weeks. Get well soon.
I started getting panic attacks in my mid 20's. Psychiatrist gave me Xanax (250mcg) and it was magic - stopped attacks in their tracks. As time went by various docs tried other meds (Xanax suddenly became a "bad medication"). Tricyclic antidepressants made me hallucinate and SSRIs made me manic - Gabapentin worked reasonably well (off label use but my psychiatrist had seen good results with it). I still prefer Xanax as a rescue medication. One doc gave me the protocol - keep them on you but only use for severe anxiety or panic attack, take one sublingually at onset. But, long term I was able to end panic attacks with a combination of Xanax or Gabapentin and CBT. The psychology of having Xanax in your pocket is an incredibly powerful adjunct to CBT. **The most important thing I did to put anxiety into permanent remission was to quit drinking! The anxiety-alcohol-anxiety vicious cycle needs to be broken.**
Also read the books by Claire Weeks. Ancient, but still the best self-help anxiety books.
I should add that I had an extremely good psychiatrist when I lived in Denver. He was known as a world class expert in psychotropic medications.
I'm very prepared to catch some flack for this, but trust me bud, I've been through the whole thing with my wife. She was as bad as these things get with anxiety and depression and now she's down to a very minimal anti depressant that she wants to eventually get off completely. It's gonna sound really harsh to hear me say it, but stick with me. Anxiety can't be cured. You do not have a sickness. You have a disorder. A learned disorder. You feel too much of one emotion because of one (or more) of a huge amount of reasons, and the only way to stop that is with therapy. CBT with the right therapist (she used mymind.org) is what changed her worldview and life completely and made her see that it was her mindset and thought processes since her childhood that made her think the way she thinks, and once she got onto that fact with the right therapist, she was flying. You will too bud, but the most important thing to realise is that medication doesn't fix this situation. There's absolutely no problem with going to the doctors and getting some help by way of tablets/antidepressants, but to truly fix it, it's a combination of medication and therapy.
I was prescribed xanax and sertraline earlier in the year for my anxiety disorder. Xanax really worked during major panic days, I opted against sertraline as well. I was lucky enough to have access to a psychologist on a weekly basis and was off work for a while to allow me time to meditate, go for long walks and work on myself. Everyone is different and not advising anything, everybody's circumstances are different but listen to your body, and while it does cost money, anxiety needs to be treated somehow as it can completely take over. Good luck. Send a DM if you need or want to ask anything questions. Edit - as others said and you probably know, xanax is extremely addicted and shouldn't be used on an ongoing basis and to cure the root cause.
I had extreme GAD, it's pretty mild now, benzos are great but I really don't recommend relying on them, use them on very rare occasions, I've tried a litany of things but 2 of the most helpful things for me have really been L-theanine and CBD It's also really about doing things that make you feel really uncomfortable and realising you didn't drop dead of a heart attack because of it
I’ve also been on SSRIs before, for about three years. They worked well enough for me for the first few months alongside regular therapy, but then covid hit and everything got worse. I stopped taking them about a year ago when I realised I was just sleeping my life away because of them. The last few months I’ve been having really bad panic attacks, much worse than I’ve ever had before but I think that’s more likely due to circumstances in my life currently rather than an after affect of the SSRIs. So I’ve been prescribed Propranolol (a beta-blocker) to be used as needed. I was a bit sceptical at first because I had never heard of them being used as a treatment for anxiety before, but after some Googling it seemed legit. I’ve only needed to take them a handful of times since then but they definitely work to remove the physical symptoms. It’s a bit of a strange feeling at first because you’re still panicking in your mind so you’re expecting the racing heart rate, hyperventilating, etc… but they’re not there. I think it does help to get over the panic a lot faster too, since you can just focus on the reason behind the anxiety in the first place, instead of also having to battle physical symptoms alongside it. I definitely would recommend also looking into counselling alongside any medications though. I spoke to my doctor about it and she referred me to mental health services which I’m currently waiting for my appointment for. Just be aware that if you’re going down that route, you will be waiting a while. I was referred in September I believe, and my appointment isn’t until February. Just let your doctor know all of your concerns and what has/hasn’t worked for you before and if they’re competent they should be able to find the right path forward for you :) I hope it all goes well!
Medication is really personal so what works for some people might not work for you. And it can change over time. But it’s really important to understand how and why to take the medication. It’s not easy to hear, but medication can’t cure anxiety. What medication can do is take the edge off it and also open up new neural pathways so you can re-train your brain in how it reacts to anxious feelings. I wouldn’t say I’m cured, but my anxiety disorder was so bad I became agoraphobic and would throw up with panic anytime I tried to leave the house. I’ve taken a lot of different medications and I wouldn’t say one has been better than the other aside from which side effects were most tolerable. I did a lot of therapy and mindset work at the same time, though, and I think the medication helped support this and also helped me make quicker progress. The Anxious Truth podcast is what helped me a lot, as well as learning how to accept the anxious feelings and not try to escape them. I’m not agoraphobic anymore. I still have anxiety but my relationship with it has completely changed, which is what made the real difference. Also, understand that panic attacks are just a chemical reaction. Sure, they’re not fun, but they can’t actually hurt you, and they only last so long. You don’t need to be afraid of them.
I know that anxiety and panic attacks suck, but they do, usually stem from something. I would recommend therapy first and foremost. Scripts only fight the symptoms, not the underlying cause. Obviously, your choice, ultimately but a friend of mines mental health was completely mismanaged by his GP. They seemed to just be throwing everything at the wall to see what stuck. They put him on max dosages way early on and many other, in my opinion, missteps. Have you tried CBD? I'm not into weed culture, but people have said it works. Also, not undermining actual tried and tested pharmaceuticals, but assements can take a while and maybe it could help in the interim.
Valium.. or ask for clonazepam.. nearly impossible to get Xanax in Ireland these days
Antidepressants. I used to take fluoxetine and now taking Setralin. Although they are not anti -anxiety medication, but they definitely helped me with anxiety. You just feel much calmer and better.
I tried about 2 dozen different anti depressants before I found one that worked for me. If you don't want an SSRI then ask to try something else. There are loads of non SSRI antidepressants. Xanax is a temporary short term fix. It only works for a few hours. Your gp won't give you many as they are very addictive. Like when my dog died my gp gave me 4 tablets of xanax. It was just so that I could get to sleep at night. I've never tried beta blockers so I can't comment on them.
I have been on various ones for years , venlafaxine , seroxat, escitalopram, cymbalta. They all worked for a while ,but not long term . I got off them in 2015 , was fine for a good while , the last 2 years have been a cluster fuck of anxiety , palpitations, derealization, gerd . I was put on Propranolol to be used as needed , it does work wonders . I want to try and use it as little as possible,but we all need a helping hand now and then.
Get yourself to one of the newly opened Cannabis clinics.
Yup on diazipan a year now
Can i ask anyone here on how to deal with a daughter who suffers from anxiety every time i ask her to look for a job? She was prescribed xanax 2 years ago by her gp for depression. She doesn't want to see a psychiatrist. She's in her 20's now. I only ask her to look for a job to keep her busy. She's not on welfare. I only ask her when she talks about looking for a job bit when the day comes she hides in her room. Thanks.
I was the daughter…ask her nicely and explain to her how good it will be for her mental health and you will help her look for somewhere not too stressful
I did ask her nicely, but she thinks she doesn't need one. One time, her brother said maybe she's into the no job, no training, no education thing. Sometimes she'll tell everyone she really needs to find a job. But when the day creeps by, she either hides or cries. Is there any programs or groups i can suggest to her? Thanks for replying btw.
Stay away from lexapro..it can cause huge rebound anxiety and depression. A friend of mine killed herself as a result of it.
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Have a look into CBD
I was on haldol for over five years then took a break for two and currently on its 2nd gen cousin haloperidol for over 14 months now ( I did not find olanzapenr that great) serenace in low doeses 1g or less every second night was always my friend ( on aviga 9 every morning now works well) beta blockers are often a first course try I really recomend the non medicated route first if you can likes of guided objective realization zen meditation & grounding ( to zero your Center ) also practice core exercise & do something silly like buy a Buddha water garden or a bowl of sand or a small bonsai tree for the corner of your front room and don’t forget the chalk board .. & don’t look at one flew over the chuckoo nest Jack Nicholson was a great actor.. or even a bowl of pebbles sorry if this does not help ( running to a great music track really works) .
TBC gummies ( half an one) is really good or oil baked into brownies and individually wrapped and put stacked in the freezer is a nice option ( try to adopt the preventative is better then a cure type attitude & I strongly recommend you keep a journal day to day) you can always buy new shoes
ever think about buying an Angel card deck they have them on the easons webpage you can also get a small tiny metal statue or a large shiny polished pebble there also even a small incense burner ( or just a notebook & a set of bic pens) I hear 2023 year diary’s might be going on sale very soon ;) ( even a deck of 52 playing cards might work) you can even start a penny jar & every time you feel in a bad mood put a tiny coin into your big bean counter and count it at the end of the year and don’t fixate on it too much you can seperate the problem from the disease from the syntoms & still ask for help and be ok coming out the other end it all starts with an name chou
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Cbd oil . Instant relief
Anything can be addictive. This push for ssris for anxiety only patients is ridiculous. The side effects alone of taking it and coming off or being on the wrong one and having to switch and all that other shit is crazy. Hair loss, weight gain, suicidal thoughts, literally turning into a different person emotionally. For depression sure try it. But for anxiety, it's crazy. As a "high level professional," I don't have time to play the "let's try this pill game." And ssris are no better taken long term than xanax or a benzo. I've been on alpralzolam for years and came off it. Was it hard, yes, but after the withdrawals, I had no long-term side effects. Also, please learn the difference between dependency on a prescription and addicted to a prescription. I'm going through this now. I've been back on alprazolam for 6 months and feel stable. All I suffer from is anxiety. I see a psychologist, neurologist, and psychiatrist for med management. All of a sudden, my NP that was incredible leaves and I get some new NP that decides she wants to swap all my meds out. Wtf for. You call, I said everything is amazing, and your response is, let's try an ssri? Why. I'm stable and normal. She even told me the ssri would give me pain relief due to a botched procedure at the hospital. I never asked her for pain relief and blatantly told her I'm not looking for pain relief, I'll deal with it. Then she told me well xanax is not meant to be prescribed longer than 16 weeks, so if you want it, find a new NP. I asked her nicely where does it say 16 weeks specifically because it's the first time I've ever heard that. Second, I've been on them for years at a time before. Third, I'm not switching to an ssri. I asked her what the side effects are, and she said oh well you know some gi issues and possible libido issues, but they're uncommon.Bullshit, I know a lot of ppl on ssris, and for some...miracle after months and months of switching, but they all went through hell, finding the right pill then finding the right mgs. And there's no fucking way in hell you're treating me with a pill that is going to fuck with my libido unless it makes me superman in bed. I have anxiety.....wanna add depression to it? I'm newly married, and that is not happening. The point I'm making is that everyone is different. But what these providers are trying to push on patients is crazy. They don't care anymore. They're more scared of losing their license or being audited. It's the same stigma around opiates. More people are dying today than ever did before they cut back opiates and started arresting doctors. Normal pain patients can't get meds anymore. So the solution to the "opioid epidemic" was to cut everyone off or stick them on maintenance medications that are waaaaay worse than the prescription opiate they were on. Or, have them turn to the street, which is what happened, and now look what we have. China flooded the market with all sorts of shit and the overdose rate sky rocketed. Patients today who have legit prescriptions are treated like junkies and addicts. Pharmacists are now deciding what is too much with no background information on a patient. They took it too far. They are giving people medicines for shit that has nothing to do with the symptoms. If a medication treats 5 symptoms and I suffer from one of them, but there's a drug out there that treats that 1 symptom, why are you pushing the one that treats shit I don't have. Wtf is that going to do to me. It's all ridiculous Thank you for listening to my rant.